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quiet plank
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its kinda only birdhouses, chins, and rumours

rain fulcrum
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Actually there's a lot more of them now than when I looked at it before

jovial sentinel
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id argue that hunter was a bad skill thats now made better by different devs

earnest marsh
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ye

quiet plank
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birdhouses kinda broke hunter

earnest marsh
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perfect exmaple

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on making new content

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just makes less content in the game

jovial sentinel
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making more means less?

quiet plank
earnest marsh
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ye most new stuff is done wrong

jovial sentinel
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give examples

quiet plank
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how so? lots of new content incentivices doing the old content

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like moons incentiviced doing barrows

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made barrows less dead

jovial sentinel
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rumours made loads of methods have more activity

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and added new ones.

earnest marsh
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ye i dont know much about mains methods

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but bowfa just destroyed most midgame content for ironmans

jovial sentinel
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yeah, imo its better to not think too hard about mains

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oh, bowfa absolutely.

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but a few bad examples doesnt mean they arnt more good examples than bad

quiet plank
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but i do agree about bowfa

earnest marsh
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going for moons? ye sure delay bowfa for no reason and get a bow that has toxic upkeep

jovial sentinel
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i also dont think peak optimal efficiency is a good argument

quiet plank
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im avoiding bowfa rushing so i can actually experience midgame

jovial sentinel
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peak optimal efficiency is always going to be extremely flawed

earnest marsh
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ye i mean

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just give bowfa ammo or something

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and its fine

jovial sentinel
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because it by definition its going to skip everything it can for the sake of it

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i dont think it is.

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i honestly think the biggest thing there is to make something in between

quiet plank
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but at the same time casual players wont bowfa rush anyways

earnest marsh
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like i hate going to get more amethys or arrows

jovial sentinel
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even non casuals

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im not a casual and i didnt bowfa rush

quiet plank
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so i think bowfa is a good option to keep around

jovial sentinel
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i could have, but that would mean skipping most content, which is the entire point of me playing

earnest marsh
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thers enoguh content in the game

jovial sentinel
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(i also hate cg, even if i have a near 100% success rate)

earnest marsh
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most people dont even reach cg

jovial sentinel
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but that also doesnt mean we cant have more

quiet plank
earnest marsh
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ye i dint mean liek that

jovial sentinel
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what did you mean?

earnest marsh
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but like 99,99% of people arent going to finish nightmare nex cox

jovial sentinel
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idk, we can see that based on CAs

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some of those have over 1%

earnest marsh
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like give eclipse a way to get unlimited

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and i upvote moons now!

jovial sentinel
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unlimited?

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you mean darts?

quiet plank
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which i think is good

earnest marsh
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yee, have you seen the meohod?

jovial sentinel
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its probably aids

earnest marsh
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yep

jovial sentinel
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but if its hated, they might ease that

earnest marsh
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its so aids

quiet plank
jovial sentinel
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thats fine. i expect if its hated enough, they'll change it

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we have a description of it only

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it does sound kinda bad

earnest marsh
quiet plank
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i thought the description was cool. seemed more like a hunter thing than a fletching thing tho

earnest marsh
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kill two diffrent npc

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to craft it

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if its liek 7-8k darts and hour maybe sure

jovial sentinel
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by the sounds of the method there, you need to walk a lot

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hmm.. what does it sound like.. sorry, im sick, memory sucks

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it sounds worse than mixo

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like, a lot worse.

earnest marsh
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but idk, most people likes to mine amethys arrows

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even pvm rune arrows is more dps

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alot more

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but like idk, project reblance was so psoetive from players

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i dont mind them going harder into old content

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to make adjustment, adding uniqes or similar things

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like elemental runecrafting ๐Ÿ˜›

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nahh, ruencrafting shouldnt be to make runes, only if you buy some private server essence

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also lets not fix world hopping

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everyone lieks world hopping for shops right?

jovial sentinel
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buying essence thing wasnt relaly to make runes.

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it was a solution to shopscape only

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it still sucks for soul runes though

earnest marsh
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ye ik, but were going to make private server stuff to fix shopping, or just increase the quanity on items instead by alot?

jovial sentinel
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actually, astrals

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idr

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there will always be better solutions, devs cant be perfect

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but its not bad

earnest marsh
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i mean, people have said 10 years to just increase shop stocks

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and they listen to the community?

jovial sentinel
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that might not actually help though

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because people will still buy them out

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actually, it will help. i mean it wont solve it

earnest marsh
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just make

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the shops

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everyone has theyere own stock shop

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shops kinda havent changed right? but we have gotten alot more players

jovial sentinel
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sure, could do, but then we'd still need to do shopscape

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make em infinite as well?

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thats a lot of things to try and sovle something the essence did just as well as

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with other negatives

earnest marsh
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i mean, its fine if itns not infinty

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but like if you playt on peak times

jovial sentinel
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yeah, i agree.

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i think its not a bad solution either

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but i think they are pretty close in effectiveness/drawbacks

earnest marsh
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like i dont wanna plan my day for when i should buy stuff

jovial sentinel
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i can honestly say ive never done that, and its been fine xD

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and i just bought 10k astrals for plankmake

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was pretty aids, but its fine

earnest marsh
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boguht some cosmic from mage traing arena

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as priff is very late

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ye gl

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on peak time

jovial sentinel
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yeah, thats why runes exist

earnest marsh
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what you mean?

jovial sentinel
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i mean the ess

earnest marsh
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i dont think anyone would complain anymore if everyone had theyre own shop

jovial sentinel
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oh, not at all

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but that requires effort

earnest marsh
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ye idk how hard is it to implent that

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but since its a pretty big game mechanic and its java

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maybe its to much hazzle

jovial sentinel
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it might even be that much of a hassle

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but also minor benefit because ess exists

earnest marsh
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they did make ironman shops

jovial sentinel
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one big thing that might be controversial

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is that they should design most things around ironman

earnest marsh
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ye but its a long raod before you have acces to ess

jovial sentinel
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it would make the game better as a whole, because the progression would be almost certianly great.

tacit wharf
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go use scar mine

jovial sentinel
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dont do it because of ironman. its just that a lot of ironman qualities allign with making the game itself better.

tacit wharf
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is this coming from a main or an iron

earnest marsh
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like essence cost alot if your going to craft soul runes for exmaple

tacit wharf
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cuz either u have

  • ge for mains
  • scar ess for irons
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cant craft the runes on yr iron, go train rc

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whole point of an iron

earnest marsh
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sure, lets just do some ass method to get runes

sacred oracle
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it's the tail wagging the dog

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i do not want that at all

earnest marsh
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all non pvm non iron content design is most likely just getting botted anyways

sacred oracle
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i do not want dry protection for every piece of content because an iron doesn't want to go dry, i don't want items used to charge things nerfed (recently, aether runes for oathplate) because irons don't want to gather things

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it's a challenging game mode, and that's fine

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but i don't want the real game weakened over and over to address iron concerns

tacit wharf
earnest marsh
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xD, lets go and make some fire runes with rc xD

tacit wharf
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i mean sure, u do need plenty of fires on an iron

earnest marsh
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its like saying you should go and mine coal

sacred oracle
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i don't want the identity of each new piece of gear to be lessed lessened until everything is interchangable because irons want to be able to break everything down and turn it into other pieces in case they go dry, and on and on

earnest marsh
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isntead of just getting it tro pvm or shop in bf

tacit wharf
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because not everything should come through pvm

earnest marsh
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who mines coal rocks

tacit wharf
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and even then

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fire runes are dropped by monsters

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pick them up

earnest marsh
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whats your point?

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lets just have runecrafting being a bad method to get x runes

tacit wharf
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stop looking for yr instant gratifications

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go put in the work

earnest marsh
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okey sure, lets go and do a sheet method

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thank you

tacit wharf
thick beacon
earnest marsh
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Ye true

thick beacon
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like royal titans was really nice imo and made things a bit easier for me atleast

earnest marsh
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Havent done Titans yet, but how so?

thick beacon
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calcfied rocks is only reason i got big mining lvl

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new prayers are nice

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cuz getting rigour can take forever

earnest marsh
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Ah ye thats true, ye moons is fine content

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Titans

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Huey?

tacit wharf
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seed hevan

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heaven

earnest marsh
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Its a bit shame tho that vm have so bad rewards other then xp

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But i cant complain

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Fertile soil is nice

thick beacon
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i just prefered afking it over shooting stars

median quail
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my friend just got osmunten fang and put it on ge for standard price and it sold for 13m while active price is 23m is this some issue with item sink being prioritized over highest buy offer?

fair comet
median quail
fair comet
graceful agate
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Itโ€™s really not. People are often very cautious of leaving buy offers in for items with high volatility (which fang definitely is atm).

Itโ€™s an unfortunate situation, but in the end your friend should not have listed the item at a price they werenโ€™t willing to accept for it.

median quail
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i dont think this was bought by a human. there is no history on active ge graph that any fang was purchased for 13m in the past hour

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i just think item sink is prioritized over active prices which is crazy

fair comet
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Saves me a lot of money. And I flip a lot with it too

minor whale
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If he sold for 13m it'd also show on the GE as a sale on his end

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The "buy" and "sell" prices are both independently tracked by the wiki

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There's not a record of a 13m buy nor a 13m sale

small anvil
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the price trackers dont show any prices of a 13m sale tbf

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but they dont always capture every sale

minor whale
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If he's on Runelite it tracks everything
That's how the guy who sold a bgs for 13k proved he did it

small anvil
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like there's no indication there was a collapse of buy offers

minor whale
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It showed a colossal dip on ge tracker and made the graph look hilarious

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Yeah

small anvil
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so i'd be inclined to think a bug is possible

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i do see artifacts on the GE tracker that make me go HUH?

minor whale
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There was an hour where 67 low price offers sold

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Way outside the normal amount

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I'd say F for putting in the price at 13m, very likely the GE was sinking the item at that moment and it bought out all fangs that were active at that moment

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Not necessarily a bug but you put sale offer in for 13m and got 13m because GE goes "ok this guy's selling it for 13m"

vivid ruin
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Im sort of curious as to how i got timed out 24 hours ago from calling a troll a troll ๐Ÿ˜‚

narrow folio
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Slinging insults back and forth helps no one and is against the rules. If someone's trolling report them.

vivid ruin
narrow folio
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Calling someone a troll is defamatory and against the rules

vivid ruin
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Ive seen far worse here lol

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Ah ok then

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Interesting

narrow folio
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If someone has an opinion you don't agree with or doing something unconventional, that is not necessarily a troll. Even if it was, insulting someone like that is not ok.

hard axle
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Let me find it hehe

tacit wharf
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welp guess no more calling the hlc sweaty

vivid ruin
narrow folio
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It can have different contexts so that's not necessarily against the rules but if you're engaging in targeted attacks against another user, that's different

tacit wharf
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so as long as i dont specify exactly who im talking about, then its find "love it when little timmy pipes up"

narrow folio
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If you have to ask, most of the time you shouldn't

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Be constructive in your discussions and step away if you're down to calling someone names

vivid ruin
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Im actually impressed that he hasnt said a word today

winged mantle
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I've added said person to my ignore

narrow folio
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If you report it, the team will take a look

vivid ruin
winged mantle
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don't engage with someone that is clearly baiting

narrow folio
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Otherwise you're free to not engage

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A lot of times I say my piece and leave the discussion and that's fine

vivid ruin
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I generally try to just give feed back on normal disgussion, but he always interrupts with his complaints. And will write paragraphs about the same thing multiple times a day

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But i will block

winged mantle
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important to focus on things that bring you life. If someone isn't adding value - do what's in your control

jovial sentinel
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kind of hard to ignore that

sacred oracle
jovial sentinel
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sorry to bring the conversion further, but its seemingly the whole reason the comments are being made, so someone does say something and gets banned, whiuch is funnily enough, working

narrow folio
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I understand but that doesn't excuse others to break rules just because they were goaded into it

jovial sentinel
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thats true, however it does seem like mods do nothing about it, as these people are habiutual line steppers, stop when warned, the continue the second you're gone, or a day later or something

meager flame
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are we talking about the yama situation

jovial sentinel
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no, but i dont really want to name the person, because thats going to be witch hunting and i might get banned -.-

sacred cove
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I agree, I have said person blocked but I don't understand why mods have done nothing about them. They often talk so much that half my messages on here just say blocked

jovial sentinel
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mods generally dont do anything. people like this know exactly the barrier of rules by experience, and step just behind that line

meager flame
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i have to agree honestly which is weird to say because a bunch of people got banned that probably didn't really need to get banned but

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usually when you get a chat troll its all you see for like

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days on days

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and nothing happens

vivid ruin
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See im not alone lol

winged mantle
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@narrow folio would it be possible we we do report someone and action is taken to have some communication of what was done?

meager flame
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it just is what it is

sacred cove
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#FreePraiseTheSun

meager flame
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half the time they get chat mods replying to them too

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which is the funniest part

vivid ruin
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Im just curious if the rule is: whoever reports whoever first mutes the other person first lol

meager flame
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i get it though you dont want to like be too trigger happy but yeah specifically chat trolls are obvious and they usually run wild for days if not forever

small anvil
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Now I get to be like wait are they talking about me?!

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๐Ÿ™ƒ

vivid ruin
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Its almost sort of against my personality to go off reporting people. I dont even know how to use mod chat

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Modmail

sacred cove
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It's pretty sad here that everyone knows the situation

narrow folio
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We don't give feedback on what was done to another user

small anvil
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You send the user modmail a direct message

vivid ruin
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Ohhh

jovial sentinel
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its kind of the problem with volunteer mods really. they dont get paid, so cant be expected to put in the time to learn and see this behavior, and they do the best they can

vivid ruin
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Yeah true

small anvil
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Nah it's more that the mods are not pulled from most of the server regulars

meager flame
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idk how being a mod actually works it could just be that they have rules that prevent them from addressing the obviously bad faith conversations

jovial sentinel
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potentially.

sacred cove
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I must admit I have not read tos. Is intentionally trolling not against tos?

small anvil
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Cuz the regulars kinda have been annoyed at the moderation

winged mantle
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If we don't know if reporting actually does anything do we then turn a blind eye?

small anvil
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The relevant line is that moderators have permission to remove stuff they consider "edgy or baiting" at their discretion

vivid ruin
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I may learn how to modmail if i continue seeing what ive been seeing in regards to this individual. Its been surprisingly quiet today

sacred cove
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Maybe they got canned, we can only hope

jovial sentinel
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maybe someone is biting in a different channel constantly

vivid ruin
meager flame
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i mean even trolling isn't that bad if its in moderation but yeah its wild when they take over for a week lol

sacred oracle
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at this point i send so many modmails i'll bet the server staff gets worried if they don't get one from me for a couple days

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be sending a wellness check

vivid ruin
earnest marsh
sacred oracle
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i actually forget we're even supposed to get a scopia unique it's been so long

earnest marsh
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Yep

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Guess they kinda have no devs working on wildy

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Bit shame

jovial sentinel
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makes sense though, every time they try and do anything people act like crazy people to prevent it

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its fair enough to reject something thats bad, but its the way you do it

narrow folio
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It was supposed to have wildy overloads

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Then certain groups of players threw a fit

jovial sentinel
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well, id reject wildy ovls

narrow folio
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So now we get nothing

jovial sentinel
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probably will stay that way for a while

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jagex really need a way of actually gauging what the pvp community itself wants

narrow folio
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I really wouldn't want to be attacked by an overloaded pker but for pvm would be sweet

sacred cove
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Or, hear me out, instead of giving up because one thing did not work out, we try again!

jovial sentinel
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which is hard when they are fairly toxic to each other

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problem i have with that is that the game everywhere isnt balanced around having ovls.,

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so why throw them on just to make wildy faster?

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the justification should be the same everywhere

earnest marsh
jovial sentinel
sacred cove
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Rip chivalry

jovial sentinel
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no wonder they stopped talking about it

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it was kind of insane

earnest marsh
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Ahh sailing getting repolled 99999 times

sacred cove
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Don't think I was around then

jovial sentinel
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impossible to talk to people, because the 'no means no' group were so loud

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the stream was cluttered with people spamming that over and over, when the devs were just trying to work out what people didnt like, and propose fixes

hard axle
jovial sentinel
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irrelevant

hard axle
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they want pkers to be as weak as possible and pvmers to risk close to nothing erm

jovial sentinel
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if the devs want to make and cater for pvp, they should have the freedom to do so

narrow folio
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pkers just want buffs to kill pvmers more easily

hard axle
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BUT

jovial sentinel
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as long as its not at the cost of the rest of the game/players

hard axle
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if a buff is good for pvm and pvp

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it'll pass

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ie. mystic vigour/deadeye

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surge pot

jovial sentinel
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well yeah, the spec pots passed.

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while being mainly a pvp update.

meager flame
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if they want pvp overloads all they have to do is put up regular overloads on a poll

meager flame
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if spec pots passed overloads are in easy

hard axle
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certainly a fucking take of all time

narrow folio
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we might be ready for pvm ovls in a couple years

hard axle
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if jagex is dense enough to poll it

earnest marsh
sacred cove
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Power does be creepin

meager flame
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just think about it look at spec pots the design is terrible nobody is having fun

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it was insanely broken in pvp

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passed

hard axle
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you have people already asking for ovl -50 hp to be removed

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and these are folks who aren't maximizing the benefits of ovl

meager flame
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overloads are just a simple buff that shit is going in lol

narrow folio
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or just something like divine pots that refresh

hard axle
narrow folio
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ovl for specific styles

hard axle
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you get 64 hp for 0 damage decrease per minute

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with ovl + brews

earnest marsh
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Yee

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Overlord would be a bit broken?

narrow folio
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that way the inventory space concerns aren't going to be there

meager flame
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tbh overloads aren't even that broken as long as its a balanced buff number

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it doesn't have to be as strong as salts in toa or anything

narrow folio
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Something that copies normal Cox Ovls (not the +)

tacit wharf
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hear me out, ovl are just scp with range and mage pot mix in, and dont refresh yr stats back to max

earnest marsh
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Brews are balanced around that it removes potion effects

meager flame
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what its really good at is extending trip length

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most of our content that we really care about already has overloads

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and in the case of tob for example

narrow folio
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We would get super ranging and mage pots first, then ovl would release after

meager flame
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you already supercombat brew with divines

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so its not like you're losing dps or boost

vivid ruin
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Hot take, but i think a big part of why people (pvmers, cloggers, etc) hate the wild is because there isnt any sort of honor system. Its quite literally everyone for themselves lol. Ive seen people who've known each other for years end up back stabbing each other in the middle of a hunt and never talk to each other again. All sorts of baiting. Its sort of a messy, just overall dark area that no one wants to add to because the people who primarily occupy the area suck sometimes

meager flame
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thats just the osrs experience

earnest marsh
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Ehh idk, i hate the mechanic "off peak hours"

meager flame
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i know a guy whos gf left him and cleaned his bank while he was at work

jovial sentinel
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problem is that pvp is that its half the people wanting exclusive items, and the others wanting 'easy' loot

meager flame
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people are just fucked up

earnest marsh
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If you live in America, you want nothing to do with wildy

narrow folio
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Take the house take the kids but don't take my osrs bank ๐Ÿ˜ญ

earnest marsh
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They gotta deal with Europa pkers and America pkers

vivid ruin
hard axle
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this is one of the factors as to WHY mage/range isn't more broken

meager flame
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i mean honestly idk if we should even be worried about that

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like

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you dont really need to compare range and melee because they don't interact with the same stats on npcs

hard axle
meager flame
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jagex can easily decide which is better whenever they want

hard axle
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to not be broken

rain fulcrum
hard axle
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top up = stat refresh

rain fulcrum
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And actually I think it's fine

hard axle
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at all

rain fulcrum
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We lost an inv slot to surge

hard axle
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its just range/mage that I'm terrified about

rain fulcrum
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would be nice to get it back

hard axle
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because they're so fucking strong at 112

jovial sentinel
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is it mage, or is it just shadow?

hard axle
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shadow

rain fulcrum
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Oh I'm assuming if range and mage get ovl

jovial sentinel
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shadow being reworked soon

rain fulcrum
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That it's 112

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Not 120

jovial sentinel
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to some degree

meager flame
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i wouldn't even really be that worried about it because jagex would just respond by changing the content they make

hard axle
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shadow can rework my left nut

vivid ruin
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Barrage is sort of busted lol

rain fulcrum
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And just gets the boost effect

chrome lantern
meager flame
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its not like they're gonna say well mathematically range is stronger than melee i guess we're screwed

rain fulcrum
meager flame
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they're just going to put defensive stats on the npcs to make whatever they want to happen happen

rain fulcrum
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To fix this

earnest marsh
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True

rain fulcrum
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Such a simple fix

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Like just have it use a super restore as base

gaunt kestrel
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and then you'd have to balance new content around overload powerlevel as opposed to divine power level

rain fulcrum
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Yeah

meager flame
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thats how everything has always worked

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that is what power creep does

jovial sentinel
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problem is, would ovls just need another bs boss grind to maintain?

gaunt kestrel
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we've had a crazy amount of powercreep in the game as of late ngl

rain fulcrum
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Osrs supposedly tries to resist egregious power creep

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Although jagex is getting unhinged

meager flame
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it does but its been 12 years

rain fulcrum
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And players aren't willing to vote no

gaunt kestrel
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i think overloads would actively be detrimental to the maingame

meager flame
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it adds up

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right now

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we're stronger than we were with summoning and overloads in 2011

gaunt kestrel
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ik we're already getting the components w whatnot

earnest marsh
vivid ruin
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If overloads were added, we'd need new bosses to compensate such a boost. Which would then kill content like gwd already is

meager flame
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that already happened

gaunt kestrel
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overloads were "necessary" back then because the game was just building chip bosses

meager flame
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osrs is one of those boiling frog analogies

rain fulcrum
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I wonder if we got them if it would be like

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The mega rare drop from raids 4 is the overload recipe

meager flame
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we already invaldated everything and made bosses easy mode or whatever

gaunt kestrel
rain fulcrum
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Maybe I should not give jagex ideas

gaunt kestrel
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would be jacked as fuck

meager flame
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we have gotten a ton of power creep in the time that we've had osrs

gaunt kestrel
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it's already +2/3 spots

meager flame
#

so people look at new things and say oh no it will be different or it wont be hard anymore

gaunt kestrel
#

and you can sip brew without abandaon every 15s

meager flame
#

and we do that all the time to everything lol

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people just check out and let it happen slowly not realizing

rain fulcrum
#

I still think overloads is pushing it

meager flame
#

but the goalpost is always moving

earnest marsh
#

Its fine if we get powercreep from very endgame content

rain fulcrum
#

It also straight up deletes an important skill

vivid ruin
#

If you're not raiding, killing nex, nightmare, colo, inferno. You're farming a boss that you can abuse any which way kekw

gaunt kestrel
#

yea i think i'll always die on the overloads hill

rain fulcrum
#

Like even something just zuk is just totally different don't need to manage your bastion doses

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Seems like a negative

meager flame
#

tbf idk if you really do a lot of managing there

rain fulcrum
#

Sure it might add brewing at 15s

meager flame
#

remembering to brew on 15s is probably more effort

gaunt kestrel
#

the thing is brew-combat right now

rain fulcrum
#

It's more like you don't have to worry about running out of doses

gaunt kestrel
#

is limited doses

earnest marsh
#

Ye, overlord in cox is would be insanly broken outside

gaunt kestrel
#

you can brew-cmb 4 times, or brew 3+res+cmb and be downbrewed for however n ticks

rain fulcrum
#

Brew scb in tob just goes away

gaunt kestrel
#

or you can have 1 single overload

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and sip brew every 15s for 20mins

meager flame
#

in a weird way

rain fulcrum
#

I like what we have now with certain raids have overloads

meager flame
#

it actually solves a problem jagex is having

rain fulcrum
#

Reminder to please give us ruinous powers or ancient curses inside raids 4

meager flame
#

jagex is struggling to make bosses that hurt you because people basically hate chip damage because eating isn't fun

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and then when they listen to that we go crazy and do raids with like

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3 supply slots in our inventory

earnest marsh
meager flame
#

if you had overloads they could comfortably make you eat

earnest marsh
#

And chip damage, and its pain

meager flame
#

because you can play around it and not lose dps/feel bad

jovial sentinel
#

chip damage wouldnt be so bad if you didnt have to farm the damn think for a few thousand loads of supplies

rain fulcrum
#

Eh I don't care about that

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Maybe irons do boohoo

gaunt kestrel
#

and i think reducing every encounter to brewing on 15s is kinda sad

earnest marsh
#

Chip damage is never fun, but i guess its a needed mechanic

meager flame
#

i think its only interesting when it works

rain fulcrum
#

Chip damage is fun in olm and verzik

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It's fun when done well

meager flame
#

like contextually for tob it works because you know you can actually get away with eating and using supercombats like that

#

but if tob did more damage to you

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you just couldn't play that way

#

inventory not big enough

rain fulcrum
#

If tob did more damage you could bring more scbs

#

And it might be worth the slots honestly

gaunt kestrel
#

the 3scb era holy

rain fulcrum
#

Being potted is fuckin huge

gaunt kestrel
#

one of the most important things about solo cm is brewing on 15

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because any time you're under 120 you're actively throwing

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and for 15s until it refreshes

#

like an example of how this would be pretty meta-breaking

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would be max eff duo tob

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where you go into xarpus with 2dose divine scb each

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you basically can't brew

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or you will be unpotted the rest of the raid

rain fulcrum
#

You just rely on bf for verzik?

gaunt kestrel
#

brewing on 15 would completely undermine the level of play required to fumble

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ideally you don't bf at all (on verz; you can bf swing on crabs for free)

rain fulcrum
#

How TF would you not die

gaunt kestrel
#

cause you lose 50max

rain fulcrum
#

With no brew no bf

gaunt kestrel
#

well you do have 1brew

#

you bring hella hard food as well

rain fulcrum
#

Oh

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I guess you can't skip yellows

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So you just eat up then?

gaunt kestrel
#

can eat between phases/when you're far from boss

#

ye

narrow folio
#

We'll get super pots for other styles eventually

#

And I welcome it

gaunt kestrel
#

its probable

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i think the game will be actively not as deep because of it

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but that's up to jagex discretion on how they balance it

rain fulcrum
#

I think super pots for other styles will make balancing easier

narrow folio
#

It's just natural progression of powercreep

rain fulcrum
#

Rn it's hard because melee has an obvious advantage in tob that it can't have in the other two raids

narrow folio
#

We're going to go all around the gear slots then come to pots

rain fulcrum
#

So if we didn't want supers we never should have had mega boosted stats in cox and toa

gaunt kestrel
#

i think the mega boosted stats in cox and toa are fine, because the raids are balanced around it

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tob is obviously balanced around divines

rain fulcrum
#

Like how do you make shadow balance compared to melee at both stat levels

gaunt kestrel
#

salts are also just insane l0l

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125s + stam is insane work

rain fulcrum
#

WTF even is a salt

gaunt kestrel
#

its like that stuff athletes sniff

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like an ammonia inhalant* or whatnot

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no drawbacks haha

#

crazy

jovial sentinel
#

the problem isnt really that shadow is imbalanced.

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its that magic cant be balanced till its fixed

narrow folio
#

The imbued heart problem also needs a fix

jovial sentinel
#

100%

gaunt kestrel
#

jagex really fumbled forgotten brews

jovial sentinel
#

devs keep rejecting any idea of rebalancing magic potions though

gaunt kestrel
#

here you go an actually reasonable level from forgotten brew?

#

completely dumpster your melee stats tyvm

narrow folio
#

can't be divine because it gives prayer for whatever reason kekw

gaunt kestrel
#

surely next year's summer sweep up

jovial sentinel
#

i dont think the prayer matters much

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divining can ignore it

chrome lantern
#

Or yeah just get rid of everything on the potion other than the magic boost

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Heck you can even leave the prayer

jovial sentinel
#

or ignore it and start on awakened orbs 3.0

chrome lantern
#

Based

jovial sentinel
#

i wouldnt be surprised

plush gull
#

wow i havent even spoken here in a day and theres still like over a hundred messages complaining about me

these people complain about half their messages being blocked lmao, i have like 30 people on this server blocked

yeah i hope they dont do awakeners orbs 3.0 with the delve boss tokens, also remove awakeners orbs 1.0 and 2.0

maybe remove ecunumical keys too? idk i havent done gwd, im just a noob with medium CAs done

sacred oracle
plush gull
#

what do u think about ecunumical keys mr 5b bank

sacred oracle
#

i think they're fine

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i still have quite a stack of them from my nex grinding days, but it's not enough to really use on the rest of the bosses for pet or anything

plush gull
#

i have 2 of them in my bank ive never used them, i guess theyre not that egregrious compared to awakeners orbs and contracts

sacred oracle
#

not a big fan of the mechanic of needing kc to do the gwd bosses, but so it goes

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it's location way off from a bank (before nex) that's hard to resupply to keep going because you need follower kc to keep killing boss

plush gull
#

dont the gwd bosses have super long respawn times

sacred oracle
#

i don't really like that system at all

plush gull
#

maybe summer sweep can reduce the respawn time as qol, as well as deleting ecunumecal keys and contracts and orbs

sacred oracle
#

you have to circumvent it with resupply alts or other chicanery

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i just don't get the point of it, and i don't think it's fun

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but ymmv

hasty shard
#

toggle for solo instances imo

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rs3 has em

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it's 100% something little reddit timmies will scream about though

#

as if world hopping isnt a complete ass meta

jovial sentinel
#

Cant have fun, no

restive sapphire
#

Surely slayer summer sweep up blog dropping in a week

ember token
#

probably

slender vapor
#

Yeah hope so, it seems like they had a pretty open and shut 1-2 so far

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General complaints aside, they actually did fix like 90% of what most people were bitching about

quiet plank
#

it's so hard to find open worlds there

earnest marsh
#

do vm need to get buffed? its just kinda impossibol to find teams nowdays after zalc got buffed

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and shooting star

thick beacon
#

i think vm is still best afk/xp ratio its always been slept on meathod

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even before those options existed/got buffed

earnest marsh
#

before shooting star buff and zalc buff (not sure excatly when), it was easy to find a team

ember token
#

its dying but not dead

earnest marsh
#

Yee,

rare frost
#

I so hope slayer qol makes all the helm recolors once price, I've been giga skipping instead of saving assuming stuff will be cheaper

vivid ruin
#

Im about 6 helms deep now lol

sharp rover
#

What is "bumping" in the context of a game suggestion thread (apologies if wrong chat)

tacit wharf
plush gull
#

the contract update is so awful, idk why theyre trying to raise the gap between midgame players and endgame players by making midgame players poorers

#

my bank is down 150m from yama release and taxes make me lose even more when i regear, and i only attempted 7 contracts

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and it still costs 5m to fight the harmony one with the fun looking orb mechanic once... where am I supposed to get the money for that??

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not to mention emberlight gets deleted every time u sell it and nothing besides emberlight works at yama... wtf is wrong with this boss?

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and it costs 40m/h to boost yama which is like 200m to get the death charge scroll, and thats if u dont go dry on dossier

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200m is like 3x higher than rigour ever was isnt it

minor whale
#

Don't engage you'll get warned

earnest marsh
#

well i think its fine to make untradeable from bosses

minor whale
#

Just Popcorn

sacred oracle
#

I wouldn't recommend engaging for another reason. This has been going on for days and days and days and days.

#

Better to just let it lie (lay?)

plush gull
#

hope they do something about contract acquisition and pay to fight boss system this week

sacred oracle
#

From several, several, several conversations in the history, you can see there's not a future in talking about this in this situation, and the whole channel suffers from becoming about just this for a while.

plush gull
#

last week it was just mechanic adjustments

minor whale
earnest marsh
#

yep, everyone complained

plush gull
#

yeah i hope they do something about contracts

earnest marsh
#

have there been any contract similar update that been good?

vivid ruin
obsidian venture
#

No itโ€™s ok

obsidian venture
#

Nothing can be dumb so itโ€™s all ok

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Everything goes!

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These are 200 iq discussions

plush gull
obsidian venture
#

On the gap in skill in regards to contracts

plush gull
#

ive never said anything about any skill gaps

obsidian venture
#

Then what gap? Gp?

plush gull
#

yes

obsidian venture
#

Are you sending contracts which isnโ€™t meant for midgame? If so thatโ€™s a you issue and a non concern in general

#

The ideal method for midgame folks is to kill lesser demons

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If youโ€™re losing money doing content you donโ€™t have the skill to do, then itโ€™s not a Jagex issue

minor whale
#

I believe the person you're engaging with considers Colosseum to be mid game, in which case they should simply do more Colosseum (best moneymaker in the game) if they'd like to do more contracts

obsidian venture
#

Thereโ€™s certain words we would be able to say 2 days ago, but due to a update to the rules (the wording hasnโ€™t changed weirdly enough) Iโ€™d like to say that it isnโ€™t the best idea for you!

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Hope this helps and that you have a bright and lovely evening

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Or morning!

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(Being positive to folks who may or may not deserve is key to becoming a positive influence in this discord! Only costs humanity to do!)

obsidian venture
vivid ruin
#

On that note, people who are overly PC trying out comedy is comedy in and of itself

obsidian venture
#

According to the source that IS Jagex

minor whale
obsidian venture
#

People love to argue SOLVED things

obsidian venture
#

Wow!

plush gull
#

but its not even 10m/h without max stats and gear

obsidian venture
#

Waste of time then!

plush gull
#

so u can do colo for over half an hour to be allowed to do the harmony fight once

vivid ruin
#

Lol

plush gull
#

whats up with that?

obsidian venture
#

Half an hour is too slow!

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Consider improving!

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Poggers!

plush gull
obsidian venture
#

Thatโ€™s ? and I wouldnโ€™t ever suggest that to anyone (specifically for humans)

tacit wharf
obsidian venture
tacit wharf
#

we have just so much more to improve on that must mean

plush gull
#

im talking about harmony contracts, it costs 5m to play the fight once

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at 10m/h thats 30 mins of farming gp to be able to try the fight once

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or several pounds in bonds

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its crazy that players are ok with fight being locked behind that

tacit wharf
#

so crazy that we're just not that good enough to do them yet

obsidian venture
#

Atleast endgame pvmers can afford to do it

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Wow

plush gull
#

they still have to pay 5m per fight

obsidian venture
#

Cheap!

plush gull
#

if ur bank is less than 5m u cant even do the fight at all

obsidian venture
#

Wow!

plush gull
#

unless u do like 2 colo runs first

obsidian venture
#

Thatโ€™s amazing

vivid ruin
#

Radiant oathplate set is midgame

plush gull
#

how is it amazing to not be allowed to fight bosses in the video game

obsidian venture
#

Wow

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Good catch

#

Smart discussion

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Very happy

plush gull
#

im not happy that jagex thinks players should have to pay 3 pounds to fight a boss even as paying members

vivid ruin
plush gull
#

they wouldnt even refund me over it

obsidian venture
#

Iโ€™d modmail that!

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Supposed to help

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Good luck!

plush gull
#

modmail is for discord stuff not jagex stuff

earnest marsh
#

dont have to play osrs, but it sure sucks yes

obsidian venture
#

Should reach them

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Which part?!

plush gull
#

thatd cost more than the membership i paid

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ok its only like <200 yen to send a letter to cambridge from japan but itd probably take months

obsidian venture
vivid ruin
#

Careful i got 24 hr'd for saying this

limber briar
#

๐Ÿคž๐Ÿฝ๐Ÿคž๐Ÿฝ๐Ÿคž๐Ÿฝ

indigo tinsel
#

Just report the troll to modmail instead of antagonizing @limber briar

limber briar
plush gull
#

bane is pretty obviously being disingenuous but im not gonna report them over it, im happy to discuss contracts

small anvil
#

Are mods allowed to call people trolls?

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I thought calling people trolls was against the rules

minor whale
#

I got told calling someone a troll is a personal attack and not to do it?

plush gull
#

idk im just not gonna call anyone a troll its not that hard

noble vortex
small anvil
noble vortex
#

Hmm?

small anvil
#

Referring to an individual

indigo tinsel
#

You'd be missing context if you weren't here

noble vortex
#

^

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Deleted comment that you didnโ€™t see.

vivid ruin
#

Im not one to gripe, but after being targeted im no longer against whats deserved of someone specific.

small anvil
#

So if it's about a deleted message it was indeed about someone specific, sounds like calling someone a troll to me

#

Not to say it isn't deserved

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But that's for sure a double standard

noble vortex
#

Was quoting..

tacit wharf
#

just saying, this is left up is pretty yike @noble vortex

noble vortex
#

He himself didnโ€™t call anyone a troll.

plush gull
#

i dont really think calling someone a troll is like timeout worthy tbh, its just annoying when groups derail channels into hundreds of messages discussing whether someone is a troll

limber briar
noble vortex
plush gull
#

thats fair

obsidian venture
plush gull
#

am i not allowed to discuss whether jagex disputes chargebacks

obsidian venture
#

Iโ€™m tryna be more positive to other smart folks

#

Surely thatโ€™s ok?

limber briar
obsidian venture
#

Iโ€™d hate to be a bother ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

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Would hurt my little feelers

plush gull
obsidian venture
#

Iโ€™d love that!

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Yay

plush gull
#

do u have any more questions about contracts

obsidian venture
#

Yes!

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Iโ€™m 3/5 now

plush gull
#

which ones u got left

obsidian venture
#

And I wonder why Jagex thought killing multiple void flares after a skip is good

#

Bloodied and sensory

plush gull
#

ive only attempted bloodied blows

#

i think i did about 400 hp, im not the best person for advice on it

obsidian venture
#

I havenโ€™t done them yet as I donโ€™t really log in

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I donโ€™t need advice is the best part! I need time but thatโ€™s tied into other things atm

#

So if I get to play for an hour or two longer I can finish them

plush gull
#

yeah same, im doing colo to try to get gear for emberlight, really wish i could just buy death charge instead, i dont like yama that much

#

i guess i could just boost it but thatd still be like 6 hours and 200m

obsidian venture
#

Yama is boring to ME as well

#

Glad we can agree

#

The world is now happy

plush gull
#

i really want double death charge tho

obsidian venture
#

Isnโ€™t this exciting @minor whale

plush gull
#

also the harmony fight looks the most fun and its 5m per attempt

#

wtf is up with that??? why cant i just play the fight for fun

#

or even for death charge?

minor whale
obsidian venture
#

LETS GO

obsidian venture
#

Being a brokie means you need to do more
Content

#

Hope this helps

plush gull
#

im heading to the GE rn ๐Ÿ˜ 

limber briar
obsidian venture
#

He isnโ€™t but thatโ€™s ok!

plush gull
#

im a noob i only have medium CAs done

#

i want death charge for colo tho

obsidian venture
#

So goated for knowing

noble vortex
plush gull
#

wish i could just buy it

#

im too bad for yama

obsidian venture
#

Unfortunate! Find friends that can help! Hope this helps

plush gull
#

but its really important upgrade for colo and makes it more fun :(

obsidian venture
#

Clans are good!

#

Ge too!

#

Wow

#

Social interaction is a great concept

plush gull
#

its also kinda crazy that yama heals if u dont use specific gear/styles

like u cant punch him to death even if u tick eat all the explosions cuz hell outheal ur dps

poorly designed fight IMO

obsidian venture
#

Thatโ€™s insane because I simply donofly and it dies

#

Wow!

plush gull
#

have u tried that with no arclight or scythe

obsidian venture
#

Why would I want to waste my time?

#

Thatโ€™s no bueno

plush gull
#

well u gotta waste 10s of hours to get an arclight

#

how did u charge ur arclight

minor whale
#

Progressing your account isn't what I'd consider wasting 10s of hours!

#

It's a permanent upgrade that is excellent against many bosses and mobs

#

I'd put in the time and effort to get such a good upgrade!

plush gull
#

i mean its less fun than fighting a difficult boss, which was the contextual goalpost for "wasting time"

obsidian venture
#

Wow itโ€™s permanent

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Oh my rod

#

Thatโ€™s crazy!

plush gull
#

im not engaging with u anymore cuz u quoted odablock ๐Ÿ’€ ๐Ÿคข

obsidian venture
#

Arclight is such an outdated relic in 2025

#

Whoโ€™s odablock?

plush gull
#

hes a streamer

#

not on topic tho

obsidian venture
#

Thatโ€™s weird! My cc mate says it

#

And I thought itโ€™s funny

plush gull
#

u should cut him off hes evil

obsidian venture
#

Why?

#

Heโ€™s a cutie patootie

plush gull
#

๐Ÿ’€ this is getting too off-topic lets go back to how bad harmony acquisition is

obsidian venture
#

I canโ€™t speak on the topic as I havenโ€™t done it! But I can speak on the bad contract system as a whole! But thatโ€™s a giant waste of time as you can ctrl + f what I said!

#

Wish more folks chose not to speak on content they donโ€™t engage in

plush gull
#

idk how to ctrl f to find what u said, tell me how bad contracts are

obsidian venture
#

Bad!

#

Orb 2.0

#

Delete

plush gull
#

ye i really hope they delete orbs and contracts next wednesday

obsidian venture
#

๐Ÿ™

limber briar
#

Honestly don't have any issues with contract system since I have a main account to practice contracts on. On the iron it would have been a pain to grind those sensory contracts. Harmony and oathplate contract are super rare as they should be imo.

obsidian venture
#

contracts atm if sending is basically adjust to the p3 pattern and you'll cop

plush gull
#

why should it be a rare drop to be allowed to fight a boss for fun

limber briar
plush gull
#

my goal is to play the video game and enjoy it

limber briar
#

Then do something else not everything is designed for yoh

vivid ruin
#

You're not trying very hard are you?

limber briar
#

You*

plush gull
#

would love some fun bosses that dont take 10s of hours to be allowed to fight, besides colo and inferno

minor whale
#

There's many fun bosses, you should expand your horizons!

plush gull
#

not sure why people thinks it reasonable to take 10s of hours charging arclight when u can go into colo ready to win on a 2 hour old hcim

minor whale
#

Examples include:
Vardorvis
Theatre of Blood
Chambers of Xeric
Alchemical Hydra
The Abyssal Sire

obsidian venture
#

Nice!

minor whale
obsidian venture
#

You mentioned raids?! WOW. That's really awesome

#

Wait this game is a journey?

#

Osrs is SO cool

plush gull
#

yeah ill probably to do awakened vard budget cutter for hard CAs so I can unlock hard CAs to be allowed to fight gwd bosses in private instances

but the private instances and awakeners orbs costs should both not be in the game

minor whale
#

The best part is, most of if not all of these bosses are highly profitable!

obsidian venture
#

So gp is really easy to make?!

#

Bonds are solved

#

Lets goooo

minor whale
#

Have you done normal Vardorvis at all? I'd say that going straight into awakened is a waste of time and money and resources, especially for a person of your considerable skill!

#

Perhaps try out normal Vardorvis first!

plush gull
#

but then i would get hard cas already and i wouldnt be able to make silly reddit posts

noble vortex
#

๐Ÿ‘€

plush gull
#

also i did hundreds of vard kc on leagues and its not that fun, u just step 2 tiles

obsidian venture
#

Awakened vard is such a good challenge! Should practice the normal and see if you can last the enrage without dpsing it for 2 minutes! I did it back in the day with a fang for 5 whole minutes! Wow

#

Also would not try it if poor! Bad decisions hahahaha

#

Hi Chat Mod Senny!

plush gull
#

its kinda crazy that the rhetoric is "dont play the game or fight fun bosses if you're poor"

obsidian venture
#

We are having a positive discussion with very smart comments. This is truly beneficial to understanding each other!

plush gull
#

you dont need gp or stats to have fun at colo/inferno

obsidian venture
#

You do need stats!

#

Stats are good

plush gull
#

awakened bosses and yama should be the same way

obsidian venture
#

Gp is good

#

Having fun at inferno means speeding it up!

noble vortex
#

Ren, please get real for a moment..if youโ€™re unable to get through regular vard in the main game consistently I donโ€™t think itโ€™s wise to state that youโ€™ll just grind out the awakened version which is a considerable bump up in difficulty. Also the sheer amount of orbs that youโ€™ll likely go through for a kill will take a financial toll on your bank. I think itโ€™s best to just stick to regular vardorvis for quite awhile.

plush gull
obsidian venture
#

Waste of time!

#

I like to not play the game more than I need too

plush gull
obsidian venture
#

Asian servers in the future!

#

Just keep waiting

obsidian venture
#

Plus if you can dance in reg enragre for 2+ min, you should be OK to send

plush gull
#

i struggle with whisperer alot tho, and idk the duke acid walk

obsidian venture
#

Just need to turn on game sounds to hear the mage orb

#

whisperer for me was free!

#

And I did all these sends while dcing

#

Such good stuff

hasty shard
#

whisperer you just need a spreadsheet up to see which pillar phase you rolled

#

other than that its literally just the same fight

hasty shard
#

no!

plush gull
#

i originally wanted to do nostun awakened levi to reach hard CAs, but its soooo hard even if I devote hundreds of hours of practice ๐Ÿ˜ญ its like nigh impossible on 160 ping

winged mantle
#

We sure do love a conversation

obsidian venture
#

Having eyesight is really good for whisperer!

#

Or can use sharex to screenshot

#

Nice!

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Duke is a repeating pattern

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omg click 1234 and dodge

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Yippee

hasty shard
minor whale
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This is an excellent idea! I'd definitely recommend doing nostun awakened leviathan before being able to complete the inferno or the hard combat achievements!

obsidian venture
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No! Hotkey it!

hasty shard
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i would need a second monitor

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that costs money

minor whale
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It's right up your alley for someone just exiting the early game (such as Colosseum)!

obsidian venture
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No! Don't use full screen!

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Omg!

hasty shard
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why

obsidian venture
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Resizable is BIS

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Wow!

plush gull
obsidian venture
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Amazing!

minor whale
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Have you completed the inferno?

plush gull
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yes over 20 times

minor whale
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You have said before that you have only reached wave 50?

plush gull
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???

minor whale
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And your account shows it has 0 kc?

obsidian venture
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On the snowflake perhaps

plush gull
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i reached jads in 70min with no supplies before i even joined this server

minor whale
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I must be imagining things!

obsidian venture
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Hahahaha there's NO such thing as bad information @minor whale

plush gull
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i talk about wave 50 alot cuz i think learners should use the middle start tile and 2t flick

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it makes it so much easier, thats probably why u got confused

minor whale
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Is your account with 120 Colo kc the same account with the 20 Zuk kc?

obsidian venture
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It's a crime to call it out. It must exist to have a proper and educational discussion on stuff that have been solved

minor whale
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We are talking about the main game, correct?

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And not leagues perhaps?

plush gull
obsidian venture
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Leagues doesn't count for anything!

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Never use it to talk about stuff in the main game

minor whale
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Ah so these 20 kc are leagues kc

plush gull
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yes it does i studied zuk mechanics and fixed the wiki

obsidian venture
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Otherwise I will have to modmail

hasty shard
minor whale
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I see!
That is valuable contribution to discussions, comparing league kc to main game without divulging as such!

hasty shard
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i got tangleroot naturally! i didnt take the farming relics!!1

obsidian venture
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omg

hasty shard
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you keep them between leagues!!

obsidian venture
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WOW

hasty shard
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thats a permanent addition to your account!!!

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like speedrunning rewards peepognomeblush

obsidian venture
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YAY

plush gull
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i need a trailblazer rerun hope thats part of next weeks update post

i want it almost as much as contract deletion

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trailblazer reloaded rerun*

hasty shard
plush gull
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the relics were so much better

winged mantle
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Oml

minor whale
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Wow I'm not seeing any Zuk kc in the main game, I must have imagined the previous conversation?

plush gull
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listen, if u wanna make a gp bet with me me ill get 4 zuk kc in the next 8 hours

minor whale
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Sorry, but gambling is against terms of service!

plush gull
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oh good to know

minor whale
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But you were discussing things as though you had 20 main game kc, I was just making sure that everything you said was factually correct!

plush gull
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like i said the 20 kc is on leagues, the 70min no supply to jads before I joined this server is maingame tho

sacred oracle
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chat, should i scroll up?

plush gull
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regardless id hope my conversation partners can evaluate opinions and points on their merits

minor whale
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Ah you made it to Jads before 70m and then planked and decided to not complete the challenge.

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I see!

winged mantle
plush gull
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i died to single jads to a disconnect cuz my taiwan hostel wifi was shitty at the time

slender vapor
minor whale
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You should go get your infernal cape, it'd be of great help to your Colosseum experience!

slender vapor
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Someday the mods will take action

minor whale
slender vapor
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When they stop arbitrarily modding

minor whale
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You get to see myself, Bane, and Ren have a very genuine conversation!

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Where we all don't tell ANY lies and we don't do any sort of commentary that is said solely to entice rebuttal!

plush gull
slender vapor
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I miss what the game update channel used to be, before the fire nation attacked

minor whale
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I'd probably write up a modmail ticket if I were to believe this conversation was bordering on a rule 3 violation, but I think chat mods have decided that all parties of this conversation are being fully genuine and thus no action would be taken!

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I personally will continue to have absolutely genuine conversations with my good friend Bane and the other party who might be involved!

frail bough
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Just ignore them tho

plush gull
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i will get an infernal cape for colo if im using sra but i cant even afford a sra rn

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cant even afford to have both a colo and inferno ranged setup

minor whale
# frail bough Just ignore them tho

Why would I ignore someone that is being genuine and talking about their very real game plan with the channel? I'd probably only ignore someone if they were trolling, but that clearly isn't the case here!

frail bough
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No obviously not and definitely the right choice

minor whale
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Myself and Bane are merely having a discussion with someone that is early game (only 140 Colo kc) who is discussing their next moves!

plush gull
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like ive said before i wanna get a sra for colo but i want double death charge especially for yama

and buying emberlight without selling it throws a whole wrench into my plans

i think ive just gotta do colo with ranged to make like 200m and then do inferno and buy emberlight and sra both

minor whale
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I'm sure a mod mail ticket put in by anyone else in the channel would likely result in no action taken due to the legitimacy of this conversation, so I really don't think it's worth it for any or everyone else to do so!

plush gull
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itd be really nice if they made death charge scroll tradeable and also address contract acquisition

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and the harmony contract which costs 5m to do the fight for fun

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the pizza contract doesnt even have the orb tile mechanic

indigo tinsel
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Lets not antagonize other users please.

obsidian venture
minor whale
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I personally think the game is about benefiting your account via progression, and one mode of progression is to unlock untradeable rewards!

limber briar
plush gull
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idk im not really feeling that, i might make a uim once they release the varlamore pt 3 dscim alternative

winged mantle
minor whale
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Mastering content that provides benefits to other content is at the core of OSRS!

plush gull
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just beastmode everything naked and not bother keep any items

obsidian venture
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Therefore this is ok (slight tangent)

plush gull
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is anyone else excited for the varlamore spec weapon that u can get from perdu

minor whale
slender vapor
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Instead of letting this channel continue to get worse?

minor whale
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Fluffy! No personal attacks please!

jovial sentinel
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Gees, every time i come in here its just bad bad faith conversations being derailed by the same person

obsidian venture
winged mantle
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There's discussions that have been had and what we have now

jovial sentinel
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Guess no chat in here today either

obsidian venture
minor whale
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Surely this won't continue forever! It's only been 2 weeks, but I think I can sense a change!

Wait no, that was just a sneeze. Sorry!

obsidian venture
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Calling someone out for being wrong IS NOT it as of 2 days ago

jovial sentinel
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Sorry, i thought it was so obvious, but yeah, i guess ill have to be more careful

minor whale
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Thank you, Darkness!

noble vortex
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Proud of these guys for stepping up their positivity

obsidian venture
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Thank you for your contribution to this positive atmospheric discussion

noble vortex
noble vortex
jovial sentinel
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Can we actually have a statement as to why this is still going on?

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Because this is actually insane.

minor whale
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Proud of the mod team for doing such a stand-up job at keeping this channel free of anyone intentionally derailing it!

obsidian venture
noble vortex
minor whale
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I sure would hate if more people sent in modmails about the issue that might lead to a solution! That'd be overwhelming and I'm SURE not necessary!

obsidian venture
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I'm only getting stage 4 from engaging with the same wrong folks time and time again but why does that matter

sacred oracle
obsidian venture
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So instead of getting stage 4, I can get it while being happy

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and that's good

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!!!