leagues-general

[plush comet]

... I got THREE Eye of Ayaks, still no Treads or Gauntlets

... How do I strangle a videogame?

[spring cipher]

lol

[lone bloom]

i got 7 avarices at revs before getting 1 sceptre. but avarice is like 10x rarer

[spring cipher]

arent they all the same rate

[lone bloom]

nope

[spring cipher]

really???

wha

[lone bloom]

rev weapons are 1/195, but avarice is 1/1500 in league

[spring cipher]

ohhh

u mean in specific

vs all 3 weapons

[lone bloom]

avarice is just way rarer than the weps

yyay ring of the gods optained

all wildy bosses complete

[shrewd ermine]

if you're talking about the fire, yeah I think it could be better overtime

[lone bloom]

117 calvarion kc

[spring cipher]

averice

craws bow

[lone bloom]

this is maingame rates

look at the leagues boosted rates page

[spring cipher]

did they change rates completely?

wait wait

is avernice not boosted

i see

[lone bloom]

didnt appear to be

[spring cipher]

damn

[lone bloom]

so i got 7 of them

before getting a sceptre... lol

[spring cipher]

thats

rather unlucky lol

[lone bloom]

yup :/

[covert night]

does crystal shield count toweards crystal blessing?

[lone bloom]

https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Crystal_blessing

think u misunderstood what it does

[shrewd ermine]

it goes back so quickly

[spring cipher]

i just carry a rake nowadays

[lone bloom]

bro early farming was so ass lmao. kept growing faster than i could rake it

[shrewd ermine]

i started farming a bit late

[spring cipher]

i bought bagged plants and planted till 60 lol

[shrewd ermine]

what do you do now?

im just doing tree runs

[spring cipher]

prob just tree runs

[spring cipher]

i forgor if u have kourend

[shrewd ermine]

i do not

[spring cipher]

transmute+ trees

[shrewd ermine]

yeah I can transmute the seeds at least

but i have larcenist too

[spring cipher]

thats good

but master farmers only drop like not tree seeds lol

im pretty sure

[shrewd ermine]

idk. ive not had to transmute any seeds yet

[spring cipher]

u have to transmute tree seeds

[tacit oyster]

vale totems probably best source for tree seeds

[spring cipher]

oh yea

i highly recommend that

[shrewd ermine]

[tacit oyster]

80+ fletching would give 2 nests instead of 1

[shrewd ermine]

i already have some of these idk where though xd

farming is why i do wish i kinda picked zeah

but on the same token i am glad to have learned tob a bit more'

[lone bloom]

just got the teleport anchor scroll, 1/4000 in league

[harsh oyster]

big fan of this image

[spring cipher]

looks like that means he tried to eat a normal piece of food

to tick eat on full health

xd

[lone bloom]

2nd teleport scroll from zombies and a champion scroll 1/5000

[shrewd ermine]

i get to be apart of the grownup table

[harsh oyster]

what fucking helmet is that

is it just the white helmet

the low resolution makes it look like two huge eyes and it makes me want a helmet with two huge eyes

[smoky raft]

looks like either prossy or initiate

white full helm has a red plume

[winged trench]

What’s the limit of pouches from larcenist?

I’m at 1360 so far. Thought it was like 280 or something

It’s 1400

Must be a diary thing

[shrewd ermine]

[rare hollow]

this is going to be a sad grind

[merry sphinx]

maybe 100 kills arent dragons all skulled all on task

[lone bloom]

similar luck, i greenlogged at 1500

u got a lot of sceptre dupes tho sad

[merry sphinx]

very

3/4 of the grind was finding a world that was free and getting the task

[rocky harbor]

how do we find forestry event. I know the time is random but is there a good place to wait?

[merry sphinx]

theres a technique idk if it still works where u hit a magic tree and hop, repeat like 6 times where u tag the tree and hop then come back to the original world

otherwise just sit in mass worlds

auburnvale by the quetzal is pretty popular

[rocky harbor]

yeah im at the quetzal now

[old tapir]

it would be so funny and sad to get 25mil thieving from 99 just trying to get this stupid elite clue from the hero

[rocky harbor]

on forestry world but eh.. i think thats just the social part

[old tapir]

im in too deep now

[rocky harbor]

i need 60pts to final relic which i can get with just 2 forestry events lol

I have a question. if i choose minion how would that work against demonic gorillas since they prayer switch?

[old tapir]

i would guess the minion swaps to the style they're not praying against

but i dont remember

[rocky harbor]

i found out today each inventory of summer sq'irk is 1.2m XP. 😄

[old tapir]

its kinda wild the amount you have to get for the task

[rocky harbor]

its tedious but afk same time.

[merry sphinx]

what bosses use prayers

im thinking of getting rid of the pray pen pacts

[old tapir]

what are your regions

[shrewd ermine]

doom, hun, echo thermy

[merry sphinx]

2 accounts, Kandarin, mory, wildy, tir and zeah

Ive completed gauntlet

I should complete doom

need to get the eye

[shrewd ermine]

doom is the big thing then

[old tapir]

i should do more doom too

finishing 300 sarachnis right now

[merry sphinx]

soon as i get that staff i can get more accuracy

[shrewd ermine]

if you plan ur pact tree right you should always have at least 25% prayer pen

so i wouldnt stress that unless ur doing gauntlet

[merry sphinx]

50%

cos the overheals both have 25% pray pens by them

[shrewd ermine]

yep

why do we pray range for p2 verzik?

[spring cipher]

the cabbage is ranged damage

[shrewd ermine]

shouldn't we be dodging that?

[spring cipher]

yea but its just in case, but after 30% during p2 it will hit with guarenteed mage attacks

so u pray mage

[lone bloom]

full dagonhai at 140 larran chests, woot

[spring cipher]

would u rather reduce the damage taken to 40 damage eating it

or eat the full 60 damage or whatever

[shrewd ermine]

[spring cipher]

:D

[shrewd ermine]

do we all get the vouchers now?

because they got them?

[spring cipher]

no

[shrewd ermine]

so what makes hmt better for mega rares? someone always get them?

[spring cipher]

but since u roll a purple every hmt

u have better odds

[merry sphinx]

they should fix cox to be like that

seeing white in cox is SAD

[spring cipher]

megarare vouchers drop only if u roll the megarare

and since u roll a unique drop every hmt u have a better odd of rolling into the megarare

[merry sphinx]

my friend got voucher and pet b2b with me

[shrewd ermine]

ah okie dokie

[merry sphinx]

💔

[shrewd ermine]

sadly not true :(

i got vials of blood once unless that's unique too

[spring cipher]

because normally at tob only one person gets the purple if any purple is rolled at all

[shrewd ermine]

stinky poo poo loot

[spring cipher]

thats not hmt

for leagues

hmt 1 person gets purple= purples for all

[crystal kelp]

You can get white lights for all in HMT if lots of deaths

[shrewd ermine]

this was a drop from hmt

[spring cipher]

oh that means

[shrewd ermine]

i only have one normal clear

[spring cipher]

lots of people died

[shrewd ermine]

ah

rip

[spring cipher]

basically

nobody rolled a purple

due to that many deaths

[shrewd ermine]

😔

[spring cipher]

lol

[shrewd ermine]

stinky poo poo team

[spring cipher]

if u had like even only under 5 detahs

purple every raid

[merry sphinx]

need to find some carries for hmt

I am terrible

[crystal kelp]

Most people are

[spring cipher]

i think every hmt i did this leagues had a purple in it like not one run was there white light

how many deaths were in that run

[shrewd ermine]

is purple stuff like rapier?

[spring cipher]

yea

anything in the unique table is a purple

so in tob

[lone bloom]

35m slayer xp task done

[shrewd ermine]

yeah then besides that one raid same.

[spring cipher]

that would be avernic, justi, sang, rapier, scythe

[shrewd ermine]

[merry sphinx]

💔

[slim eagle]

Is echo thermonuclear able to be duo’d since it’s an instance?

[shrewd ermine]

i dont think so, but you dont need to duo if that's why you're wondering

[slim eagle]

My friend is getting destroyed with water mage and I’m kinda ok but involves some healing from time to time

[covert night]

does lithic spec not count towards combat achievment for hespori?

[spring cipher]

all echo bosses are solo

[shrewd ermine]

they need to learn the mechanics if they dont want to max out their water build

[covert night]

i turned thorns off so spec hit

[shrewd ermine]

holy moly

[slim eagle]

Gotchu

[spring cipher]

whos doing 400 kcs in leagues

what the fuck

xD

[shrewd ermine]

they like raiding i guess

i am starting to get worried about joining these type of lobbies

im far from a tob pro but i at least know enough to do most mechanics

[spring cipher]

see....

u know how i feel then....

lol

[shrewd ermine]

@spring cipher do you know the death threshold is for no purple?

[lone bloom]

finished all wildy tasks outside of corp and elder chaos robes

those will take way too long

[open garden]

in leagues 6 where do you get Dinh's bulwark ? i have an ornament kit for it I'd like to use for the task

[old tapir]

you get it at cox like normal

[spring cipher]

its hard to say with boosted rates in leagues

[open garden]

oh fair i don't have cox area

[scenic garden]

so participation is ~18 points total?

[shrewd ermine]

so basically prayair is great for rewards?

[scenic garden]

what am I missing cause that seems to total out to 30 points, where are they getting 60/68?

[spring cipher]

well if ur only doing reg tob yes

but as long as less people die at tob in hmt

ur all getting purples

normally deathless raids main game

is a 1/9 chance of seeing a purple

with like 8 deaths its prob like 1/13

1/14

or something like that

so if u all had that many deaths multiplied by 5 it prob wasnt enough to hit the 100% rate

[old tapir]

i was under the impression hard mode tob guaranteed purple no matter what

but even that would be unusual since its the only raid with that guarantee

[covert night]

is lithic staff or blowpipe faster?

[spring cipher]

its purples for everyone if even 1 player pulls a purple

[old tapir]

lithic is faster with the pact

[spring cipher]

but if everyone has alot of deaths theres a chance that nobody rolls it

so its possible to not get a purple at all in leagues hmt

[old tapir]

no that's the toa way

[spring cipher]

the probability is just astronomically low

[spring cipher]

yea hmt leagues works the same way

[crystal kelp]

ToA and ToB

(HMT)

ToA is odd because you can run like a 700 ToA solo and not guarantee a purp, but a solo HMT would get you a purple

[scenic garden]

So just got around to looking at the wiki at nylocas. They don't seem to have any defensive stats (all 0 on the wiki) and they don't explicitly mention any damage immunities there, but I'm pretty sure I shouldn't be able to damage silver and green ones with magic, with lithic sceptre autos, so why can I? Is it the max accuracy chance node? Or does lithic sceptre have a hidden true damage passive on the autos?

[crystal kelp]

It's typeless

[scenic garden]

the autos are typeless?

[crystal kelp]

I think so

[amber sleet]

the spec is typeless

regular attacks shouldn't be iirc

[scenic garden]

does it say that somewhere? the only typeless damage I see is ~1/3 of the spec damage

[amber sleet]

fire mage bounces are also typeless

[scenic garden]

yea I'm also not hitting pretty often on the wrong ones, the hits seem more anomalous so I don't think the autos are typeless, unless they have a chance to be typeless

[amber sleet]

so

i think if you hit with wrong style first

you can't damage them at all regardless of if it's typeless

maybe

i'm not 100% sure about that

[scenic garden]

yea I often notice the one I specced on survives too, so that could be what's happening there

kinda wish it was up to 20 charges, or used 3-4 instead, cause it's kinda clunky trying to clear the offstyle ones until they really get going later in the fight

[spring cipher]

if you hit the nylo with the wrong style it becomes immortal to you

[scenic garden]

apparently not

[spring cipher]

even if it changes styles

[spring cipher]

it is but since lithic sceptre's aoe splash is typeless

it bypasses that

since it does typeless

so even if you fuck up u could also flask to aoe shit down

[fallen fossil]

Just got 70

[spring cipher]

oh and in hmt not only does it become immortal hitting it with the wrong style will reflect damage back to you, hence why barraging a pile with ancients is a bad idea

[scenic garden]

well I've definitely killed ones myself that I've hit with the wrong style, with just autos

[spring cipher]

ye

hmt just takes whats annoying from reg tob

and is like

"i heard you like this mechanic so now they're the focus"

[shrewd ermine]

[rocky harbor]

fiiiiiinally got last relic. now i just have to pick. I was thinking flask but i have forever food and overheal w/mage, so maybe minion?

[scenic garden]

minion is great for gathering stuff while doing slayer

[amber sleet]

by the time you have minion

what are you gathering while doing slayer?

[scenic garden]

more bones than you'll ever need, all the herbs for herblore, you could even hoard alchables to sell with karamja 3 gloves

[harsh oyster]

unless youre doing exceptional amounts of pvm theres no reason to take anything but minion

[amber sleet]

so

nothing is the answer

[scenic garden]

everything

[amber sleet]

there is nothing you are gathering while doing slayer with minion

[scenic garden]

t8 isn't dragon cup

and you didn't even bother to read the 3 things I did list

[amber sleet]

i read them

[rocky harbor]

i mean theres some things that would be nice for slayer. like i want to do demonic gorillas and i can take black demon task for it yeh?

[scenic garden]

so

[rocky harbor]

the minions... are they the little imps i see people running around with?

[amber sleet]

prayer and herb both have multiple easy solves

[scenic garden]

yes

[amber sleet]

gold is easily solved

so none of those things matter by the time you have minion

unless you're really struggling with them because you didn't take any of all the possible solves

which sounds very unlikely to me

i haven't had to do a single thing since getting flask that has required me to loot mass amounts of items

[rocky harbor]

i dont have any issue w/resources because of transmute and the farming one with the mushroom.

[amber sleet]

at most all the tasks i'm doing now need 1 specific item

[harsh oyster]

that is literally why i took minion

[amber sleet]

so i ignore everything else

[harsh oyster]

also having drops in general gathered by minion is a nice boon and 20 extra damage every now and then is nice too

[rocky harbor]

to do 99 cooking i transmuted a ton of anglers and cooked at mythic 😄 i have 2.4m worth of anglers and will only ever need one.

[amber sleet]

my point is there isn't really anything i care about looting that isn't just like a single item i will very simply click on the 1 time it drops in like hundreds or more kills of whatever i'm killing

so what is the point of minion picking stuff up in general if i am looting nothing

[harsh oyster]

ok we get it you picked flask

a round of applause for the flask picker

anyways

[rocky harbor]

im partial to having a cute little imp following me too 😄

[harsh oyster]

little guy is a huge bonus

[amber sleet]

pick whatever you want

my point is simply

the looting really doesn't matter in 99% of cases by the time you can even take minion

[rocky harbor]

im really curious how it will work against gorillas. might be time to go try!?

[lone bloom]

new quest this week

[harsh oyster]

ouuhhhh so close

[lone bloom]

in the top 2k for league pts 😄

[harsh oyster]

actually by the time i hit 99 wc ill have very nearly enough teaks to hit 99 firemaking as well

[scenic garden]

woodsman was nice for getting both at once

[lone bloom]

teaks are horrible fm xp lol, i used magics gained from boss kc tasks

if you do any pvm tasks at all youll end up with surprise magic logs

[harsh oyster]

well yes but i already have enough teaks to get me to 99

[lone bloom]

surplus*

[harsh oyster]

it eliminates the need to farm anything else

[scenic garden]

I was getting about 2k wc xp and 3k fm xp per log

and you chop them fast

[lone bloom]

thats with woodsman

they dont have that, so doing lines of teak fires is 1k xp per

whereas magics are over 4k

[rocky harbor]

so the minion last half hour then you just recall it again?

[scenic garden]

woodsman doesn't state any bonus to fm xp

[lone bloom]

you got enhanced harvest?

[scenic garden]

*endless

[lone bloom]

then ur chopping 2 logs at a time and auto burning

so fm is solved for u

[scenic garden]

so that's ~1500 fm per log then

1680 per log from the wiki

[lone bloom]

yep. 99 fm still gonna take many hours doing lines of teaks. no point when you end up with like 20k magic logs from zulrah, slayer, etc

[harsh oyster]

re:

[lone bloom]

can do 35m fm task w/ my excess magic logs rn lol

[harsh oyster]

along with having all of the gear i could possibly need from slayer

[scenic kiln]

can you transmute into redwood?

[scenic garden]

yes

[lone bloom]

yea but dont have the relic

[scenic garden]

so all those teaks can also be turned into redwoods if you have transmute

[harsh oyster]

im not about to go cut down the 2500 remaining magic logs i need to hit 99 firemaking with them

[lone bloom]

no one said to do that ... lol

[harsh oyster]

now maybe when i hit 75 itll be a different story but i currently have 6,630 teaks which is, again, damn near enough to get me to 99

and i got time

[harsh oyster]

no but the version you offered is nonexistent so

thats The alternative

[lone bloom]

ok, cant be helped ug

ig*

[harsh oyster]

endless harvest and barbarian is going to be more or less the same time and effort as slayer for me unless im doing abyssal sire back to back for literally like 2 days

actually Less time and effort

significantly so

[lone bloom]

did you fr reload into barb smh lol

[scenic garden]

demonic gorillas dropping my aggro every time they swap prayers is still super annoying

[harsh oyster]

no i reloaded into endless

i started with barb

[dusk cedar]

whoo. just hit 99 mining! and 25mil magic thanks to transmute.

[lone bloom]

gz

[dusk cedar]

now to turn all the ore into bars and hopefully get up to 90 smithing

[tame flax]

then wheres the issue

just cut the magic logs

[harsh oyster]

there is no issue im just gonna burn the teaks like i said i was to begin with

this guy was just pushing like hell for magics

which is pointless when i already got the teaks i need

[lone bloom]

are you gonna go for 25m and 35m wc xp tasks?

[harsh oyster]

might

not rn though

[lone bloom]

even more reason to chop magics rn if you do get those

[harsh oyster]

no

[lone bloom]

its not pointless if it saves tens of hrs later on, or youll be kicked urself for it lol

kicking*

[harsh oyster]

read

[lone bloom]

hf finishing w/ addy rank

[harsh oyster]

i really did not ask

[scenic garden]

there are 27 days left bro chill

[scenic kiln]

I got 40k points, do you think I still have time to reach dragon trophy?

[scenic garden]

yes

[lone bloom]

for sure bro, ez

[scenic kiln]

Got it, I'm having the worst time trying to get a ranged boots, I'd like to do other things but Im sutck doing medium tasks

[scenic garden]

can always go knock out some other tasks

[weary shadow]

def recommend leaving that one til last...

[lone bloom]

just do the "complete # of med clues" that youre comfortable doing and dont grind for specific items

[old tapir]

what does a budget vardorvis look like as water thorns

[scenic kiln]

right, thanks guys

[old tapir]

full rune? some random battlestaff?

[lone bloom]

full gear loadout has to be < 2m g.e. value

[old tapir]

what about untradeables

[lone bloom]

its HA value will count towards the 2m instead

[harsh oyster]

i feel like i need to clarify that unless i specifically ask for help or advice theres a good >80% chance im going to ignore your advice no matter how "helpful" youre trying to bee-- a lot of the fun of leagues for me is figuring out shit on my own, carving my own path and doing my own thing

[lone bloom]

food and pots in inv will count too

[scenic garden]

eww the gorillas at the start of the cave aren't multi? why??

[harsh oyster]

this is like the fifth time since i became active here that someone has offered giga unwanted advice and then been Wildly pushy about it for zero reason

shit drives me crazy

[shrewd ermine]

when people recruit for tob or any raid (idk how it works for others), do people usually pick who has more raid clears or just first come first serve?

[lone bloom]

burning lines for 20 hrs isnt fun no matter who is doing it.

[harsh oyster]

i did it in maingame for years and enjoyed it fine

i think ill bee okay lol

[lone bloom]

calling a general time save "giga unwanted" lmao

[harsh oyster]

Yes.

I did Not Ask for your advice. Thus It Is Unwanted.

[lone bloom]

i wish people told me shit since day 1

[harsh oyster]

in leagues at least it seems like its mostly the latter

[old tapir]

4th 200mil coming up

[harsh oyster]

huge

[lone bloom]

did you take soul harvest

[old tapir]

sure did

[lone bloom]

same, got 50m rc and 25m prayer passively

[harsh oyster]

im still torn and somewhat regret not taking soul harvest

[old tapir]

im gonna try the funny stregnth training method with dihn's

[lone bloom]

some people will still run back and forth to an altar to train rc apparently

[old tapir]

apparently you can get 70mil strength xp/h if you turn yourself stupid dancing with monkeys

[lone bloom]

i did 50m all melees like that. i just walked back and forth in mm2 tunnels with thorns

walked between 2 diagonal tiles i mean

[old tapir]

its peak im afraid

[harsh oyster]

dinhs is always peak

[smoky raft]

I like dinhs in concept but frankly aint no way I'm getting that shit in the actual game

I do cox masses for fun but that's about it

[harsh oyster]

the day i actually grind cox maingame is a cold day in hell

Maybe

that might be a lie i dunno ive yet to do any raids for real

time will tell

yippee

maybe smithing next since i can afk that with hotfoot

[iron turret]

is it weird i have 4 weapon seeds and 1 armor seed

[scenic garden]

enh?

[iron turret]

yea

[past birch]

This looks like a nuke

[scenic garden]

what kc?

[iron turret]

31

[lone bloom]

4 enh? damn, spooned but also not spooned

[scenic garden]

4 enh in 31 kc??

seems like my minion is dealing enough damage to swap the prayers on these demonics

[toxic vortex]

Minion fucks

[iron turret]

oh, it's not letting me send pics here rip

[harsh oyster]

minion is good no matter how bad flask pickers want to act like its not

[iron turret]

thought my screenshotting app was going crazy lmao

[harsh oyster]

need to be at least steel rank in the server to send images (which is obtained by yapping)

[scenic garden]

yea you need to chat enough to raise your rank

[lone bloom]

you need to chat more to send pics

i been chatting in here since 2018 and im only rune 🙁 idk how people get barrows/dragon

[smoky raft]

whenever you send a message, you get a random (small) amount of bot xp, then a short cooldown (a few minutes) starts before you can get your next xp drop

[scenic garden]

1 min, not a few

[smoky raft]

is it just 1? I thought it was like. 5

[harsh oyster]

runescape players turning even fuckin conversations into an xp grind

[scenic garden]

#old-school message

[smoky raft]

number go up

[scenic garden]

one message per minute gives xp

which is good to throttle bots, not so fun when you come in here for support lol

[shrewd ermine]

how do we change what xp thorns goes to?

[scenic garden]

imma be real sad if I go 500 kills without these two monkey tails

[scenic garden]

the combat options tab, but it only works with melee

[harsh oyster]

i think going unhanded and selecting an attack style there and then equipping your weapon does it if youre waterthorns

[smoky raft]

unequip your weapon and change your attack style to that skill
(note: autocast staves will, afaik, always give attack xp)

[shrewd ermine]

[scenic garden]

that was a dangerous goose

[shrewd ermine]

indeed

it has to be stopped

[harsh oyster]

yay

[scenic garden]

gz

[shrewd ermine]

ty :)

what should I buy with it?

[spring cipher]

400 points

[shrewd ermine]

i assume I just buy scythe? none of these seem to really help me as a mage

since shadow isnt great

[toxic vortex]

I'd probably get scythe and just keep it for blindbag memes

[scenic garden]

it feels weird wanting to stop getting zenyte pieces

[shrewd ermine]

that's what im thinking

[old tapir]

i've had a few uses for scythe even as water thorns

[scenic garden]

I just need the monkey tails

[old tapir]

but my pact build also takes the first melee pact as a shortcut to thorns and that really juices the scythe

[harsh oyster]

smithing is going to be so slow

Gugh

[shrewd ermine]

does scythe work with bluetooth?

like bt zuk

[harsh oyster]

it does but i think it has to be the equipped weapon?

i misread that

It definitely works with bt

[scenic garden]

an 8th zenyte

this is the wrong kind of luck

[shrewd ermine]

should I use it over hally?

if I did melee

[scenic garden]

yes, it hits 3 per attack, 4 if you add sang kit

if you can get sang kit that is

also that's 3-4 on large enemies, not all enemies

[shrewd ermine]

how does sang kit add one?

[icy cove]

wish i could play this league forever

[scenic garden]

it adds an extra hitsplat

[smoky swift]

could i brute force delve, colo and inferno with flask?

just waiting for cooldown between waves etc

[shrewd ermine]

oh is that a main game thing too? the wiki says its vanity

[scenic garden]

every 5 mins yes

[shrewd ermine]

The sanguine scythe of Vitur is the scythe of Vitur with a sanguine ornament kit attached to it. The ornament kit gives no additional bonuses, and is only used to add aesthetics to the scythe.

[scenic garden]

oh I could swear it gave a bonus, mb

[shrewd ermine]

all g, is there something that does though?

[harsh oyster]

with the right build you can basically afk all of these

no flask needed

flask is going to make sol easier but im not sure it even touches zuk?

[smoky swift]

eh idk if i can even do a water mage build

i can do zuk no problem just the waves

[harsh oyster]

well

you arent going to have enough time "between waves" in inferno for it to charge, so

but i mean Maybe if you use it at the exact right times?

[scenic garden]

even if it can reach zuk, can it oneshot him? he's pretty tanky

[harsh oyster]

def not

[smoky swift]

nah it cant reach and wont 1 shot lol

just need to get through the waves tho

[harsh oyster]

it does what, 56x3?

[smoky swift]

66 x 3 3min cooldown

goes down by 0.6 sec on cooldown every time u hit thats not a 0

[scenic garden]

the only one it seems any good for is colo

[covert night]

so i dont have desert and rerolled water thorns mage with 32 pacts in. can i still do 16 jad without the echo desert staff?

[harsh oyster]

uh

[dusky coral]

imma dump 134k soul shards all into prayer

[harsh oyster]

its not desert

its kandarin

[dusky coral]

lfg

[harsh oyster]

desert echo weapon is the drygore blowpipe

[scenic garden]

1 down, 1 to go

[covert night]

i mean kanderin

[smoky swift]

i have tiran zeah and asgarnia so i dont have good access to mage gear for water mage anyways

gotta figure it out with bowfa

[harsh oyster]

waterthorns still has good sustain even without double hit

what regions do you have @covert night

[covert night]

prif, morty, kourend

i have crystal and blessing

morty echo staff

so ill be good for inferno and jad challanges?

without double water

[harsh oyster]

yeah i got nothing then, your best bet is probably a mystic mist staff for the sake of only needing one rune in your inv and only having one hitsplat is going to significantly reduce your sustain

[scenic garden]

jad challenges maybe, inferno would still be pretty tough with 1t staff

[covert night]

i have dragon hunter wand?

[scenic garden]

nothing in there is a dragon, so that's just base stats

[harsh oyster]

yea

dragon hunter wand is good for. Dragons.

[fickle thistle]

finally

40 points 🙂

[covert night]

damn i wish we could trade a region

[scenic garden]

I wish we had a real 4th pick instead of the forced karamja. that should have just been auto unlocked if they really want us to have it.

[smoky swift]

i randomized my regions and relics so i cant complain

not good enough at the game to rando pacts tho

[lone bloom]

rocky pet in league lol

[rich spear]

pls game i beg for visage set me freeeeeee

[smoky swift]

this is my first league since the first one that was zeah only tho

after that i quit for rs3

[rich spear]

ive been doing metal dragons and black dragons all weekend and not a single thing

thankfully i finally got dragon dart tips for that task

now bp can go bye bye

[lone bloom]

[simple marsh]

you can use flask to ‘revive’ after taking lethal damage with a little more leeway than tick eating

[smoky swift]

itll prob take me a few attempts ill try going rambo mode to get flask resets faster

[lone bloom]

just rolled rocky pet 2nd time lool

[scenic garden]

I got 5 rolls in the past 2 days lol

all long after 200m tho

[simple marsh]

to answer the earlier though, flask doesn’t damage zuk, nightmare, moons, olm, and skotz

[covert night]

whats best staff i should go for for water mage thorns with my regions?

kodai?

[scenic garden]

probly

[lone bloom]

do you have kandarin

[covert night]

no

[smoky swift]

yeah ik thats what they thought i was asking tho i just need it to go through the waves zuk is the easy part

[simple marsh]

what’s your pact build?

[smoky swift]

my build rn is just crystal armor with cerb dagger

was gonna melee through wves and bowfa zuk

[scenic garden]

really hoping I can get another monkey tail to get the light ballista task in the last 21 demonic kills

[strange jacinth]

the 3rd choice playthrough

[languid belfry]

🤔 What is with all the water thorns skipping Kandarin recently

[fickle thistle]

trust! i got my two balliasta assembled super close to 500 kc.

[smoky swift]

good choices tho

[languid belfry]

(not a specific dig, just noticed it's a thing recently)

[scenic garden]

so do you get a t7 relic? since there's no 3rd pick

[strange jacinth]

yeah the theme stops there

[spring cipher]

im surprised that some people here got dragon almost 3 times and going onto 3rd accounts

lmao

or 4th or whatever

[scenic garden]

Faux is probly onto his 5th by now

[strange jacinth]

im basically doing faux build rn lol

[languid belfry]

Tbh this leagues, provided yoiu can get pact points easily

is really, really fun

[strange jacinth]

fremmy asg going for dogger

[languid belfry]

If I didn't have to derust in FFXIV soon I'd probably do another character

[lone bloom]

these are people who play full time, either jobless or streamers

[covert night]

wasnt planning on this build in the beg

[languid belfry]

Fair. But I think at that point you just go 1h thorns no? Instead of forcing water

especially with your regions.

uhhhh

[strange jacinth]

water still viable without kand

[covert night]

1h thorns?

[scenic garden]

water thorns really relies on quadrant

[covert night]

with what setup?

i have priff, morty, kourend

[scenic garden]

you can do 1t powered staff thorns with your areas

[simple marsh]

You can kinda do a 1t staff pseudo water build

[scenic garden]

since you have mory

[languid belfry]

oh yeah no

[strange jacinth]

barrows armor and mage top

[languid belfry]

you go powered staffs\

1t

probably lithic?

and then instead of healing to full

you just rely on the 1t heal to clear death queue

[scenic garden]

lithic til you get sang staff

[languid belfry]

((I'd use lithic for Jads just to tag healers quickly))

and since you're using Lithic, you can camp full justicar

because the spec always hits and max hits

Do you have endless sustenance

[covert night]

no

[languid belfry]

You're going to have to play the game then

but realistically just

camp 1t staff

• full justicars

[covert night]

and ditch my crystal?

[languid belfry]

for thorns? Yeah.

do you have flask

what's your t8

[covert night]

ya

[languid belfry]

yeah definitely

[scenic garden]

yeah 1t staff only heals 1 hp per attack, with a chance for 2 with over 100% regen

[languid belfry]

justicar to get your thorns damage over the 20/10 threshold

and your plan is to get flask online as often as possible

[covert night]

and sang staff?

[languid belfry]

Sang maybe

[scenic garden]

2 pieces of crystal with blessing is actually good for a balance between magic and thorns damage

[languid belfry]

lithic for fights where you actually have to hit stuff

crystal with blessing can be good when you want to hit stuff

outside of thorns

[scenic garden]

once you have full justi that might outweigh crystal

[languid belfry]

The real question is

"Do your thorns do 20/10 damage"

[iron turret]

does thorns work off quadrant?

[languid belfry]

if not, crystal isa probably better

[languid belfry]

yes

lol

[scenic garden]

quadrant is 1h

[languid belfry]

You're thinking of element

element is the DPS swap when thorns doesn't work

But yeah

full justicar is to get you to the 20/10 damage recoil breakpoint

[covert night]

ive never done inferno

[languid belfry]

where each tick of thorns reduces your flask CD by 1.8 seconds (3 ticks) vs 1 tick.

[covert night]

can i get away with it with my current setup?

[languid belfry]

I dunno

try it

pray mage

maybe don't sit in center/let pillars die

like every full water + thorns does

but you can probably half ass it and be fine?

You just might have toi play the game vs Jad.

whereas full water + thorns can forget to prayer swap for 3 business days

and still survive lol

[scenic garden]

you can lithic the biters to get them all at once to save the pillars

[iron turret]

oh yea, i got the names mixed up

[languid belfry]

exactly

lithic is grossly underappreciated

lmao

[scenic garden]

I feel like it's plenty appreciated, but sang staff can help alot with its heal passive so it can be good to keep your health up

it just won't overheal you outside the 1-2 from regen

[languid belfry]

I think anyone who looks into it

probably appreciates it

but I still see the worst takes on Reddit and places

insisting trident is better for active gameplay

[scenic garden]

wtf lol

[languid belfry]

"But it's just a warped sceptre at base"

it has a guaranted max hit aoe every 5 ticks

the fuck are you people talking about

[spring cipher]

lithic has great aoe

i think its very useful

[languid belfry]

yeah

[scenic garden]

???

did someone really say that?

[languid belfry]

yeah

[scenic garden]

cause they didn't look at the stats

[languid belfry]

Admittedly I think when I looked it up, it was based off theorycraft

"No mage is going to morytania"

[spring cipher]

i went cause my friends wanted to tob

lol

[spring cipher]

next leagues

[harsh oyster]

Slow

but ill get there

[spring cipher]

im taking the smithing relic

[languid belfry]

I took hotfoot purely

[spring cipher]

i am not manually grinding out steel dragons 3 leagues in a row

[languid belfry]

because I hate both Smithing and Agility

[scenic garden]

next leagues I hope there's production prodigy

[languid belfry]

"Fuck this"

Like I'm kind of okay with afk fletching tbh

but smithing is just miserable

[waxen whale]

giants foundry isn't too bad with the plugin

[scenic garden]

giants foundry is my goto for smithing on main game

[waxen whale]

watched a movie and was 99 before i knew it

still need to do it on maingame

[languid belfry]

If I knew I was taking Desert for ToA

I would have probably not picked hotfoot tbh

but I also didn't decide till literally tier 7

"You know what, I kind of hate the other regions. Let's just pick a fun one to relax in."

[strange jacinth]

did anyone try out blood spells with the fire splitting tree

[languid belfry]

Some peopel did and uh

[spring cipher]

my friend used it at tob nylos

[languid belfry]

due to a bug, you actually take more damage from blood spells than you heal

I think

I don't know if that was ever fixed

[harsh oyster]

i mostly took hotfoot for fishing because i hate cooking

i love agility

hate smithing too though

[spring cipher]

i actually dont mind cooking

we have myths guild furnace for a reason at kandarin

[covert night]

so what were best regions for water thorns?

[spring cipher]

kandarin is one for sure

[scenic garden]

ktm

[spring cipher]

yea what techtronic said

[scenic garden]

if you follow fauxtank you can do both water and 1t powered staff thorns interchangeably

[covert night]

i still have the option?

with my regions

[scenic garden]

you can do 1t staff and maybe kodai could work for water, but it's not going to be quite as good as the double cast from quadrant

[covert night]

sucks that jagex didnt allow a region swap like they did with resets

[fickle thistle]

That would be really hard to do tbh given the nature of leagues

[covert night]

they should of given us an extra region

[fickle thistle]

You could like, take loot out of a region

[covert night]

tbh

[spring cipher]

would be kinda op cause u could simply get all the items from every region that way

[scenic garden]

yea the balance of that would be tough

[fickle thistle]

If not impossible

[scenic garden]

they'd have to delete items that you don't have the region for or smth to keep it fair

[strange jacinth]

they would have to add an extra check to every unique gear to not let you equip unless possible to obtain from current region choices

[scenic garden]

alternatively, a 4th region pick would solve alot of these issues

give us the starting region and kamaja for free then let us pick 4

[spring cipher]

thats what they normally do but give us 3

[scenic garden]

except karamja is set up as a pick

but you can only choose it

[spring cipher]

u dont really pick karamja u are kinda just given it technically

like cause every league is like this

[harsh oyster]

region swap wouldve broken it

[spring cipher]

always been main area+ karamja

[scenic garden]

I thought when I hit that threshold I'd actually get to pick something but it railroaded me there

[spring cipher]

they kinda just made u earn karamja this leagues

[scenic garden]

then why set it up as a pick, just start us with it off the bat

[fickle thistle]

Can you do Sire without a shadow spell

As water thorns

[scenic garden]

yes

[fickle thistle]

Cool

[spring cipher]

cause for some reason they decided this leagues that u were required to earn it maybe to give the player an idea of how leagues works

thats all i can think of

[scenic garden]

you can do sire without a shadow spell and without water thorns even

[spring cipher]

like to show them how unlocking regions works ig

[scenic garden]

you just need to deal 75 damage to stun it

The Sire can be disoriented by using Shadow spells on the Ancient spellbook, or by dealing 75 damage to it with Ranged or Magic, temporarily disabling the tentacles protecting the respiratory systems.

invisible barriers are so annoying

[covert night]

hey tech

so a water thorns build is still viable with justicier and kodai?

[scenic garden]

might be, you just won't heal quite as well

you'd only have one projectile returning to heal you instead of two

but you could still get the 10-20 heals per cast alongside that

tho with full justi you'll likely only get the heals per cast cause I don't think you'd have enough accuracy left to deal damage

but that seems like most of the heals anyways

I balanced between tank and thorns to take advantage of both

[covert night]

whats your setup?

[lone bloom]

rocky pet #3

[shrewd ermine]

what is your setup?

[scenic garden]

just setting up on the dps checker

[shrewd ermine]

this is what I run and sometimes I'll throw in a powered staff. this is a very balanced setup, but it doesn't excel in anything compared to other stuff

that said, still very solid, especially from a sustain standpoint

[scenic garden]

not sure if this shares all 4 I have set up there
https://dps.osrs.wiki?id=GorakResetcrystalMyre

[lone bloom]

rocky #4

[scenic garden]

I put my current gear and tree in and set up some crystal/justi mix loadouts to compare

[shrewd ermine]

does dps calc account for league stuff though?

[scenic garden]

everything but thorns

[shrewd ermine]

pact trees and thorns are really what makes the difference

[scenic garden]

cause you can't calc for thorns

there's a pact tree setting

can even set the distance to your target to account for the max hit chance node

[shrewd ermine]

i see, can you throw in a prayair setup just to compare

[scenic garden]

not sure I should set that as 10 cause everything walks up to me, so set that to 5

idk the prayair setup

if you know the tree for it, go for it

oh I forgot to put in my serp helm on my current gear lol

[shrewd ermine]

this is my take on prayair. you could alternatively go for thorns, but I think if you do mechanics right and are late game (so more bossing) less thorns is better tbh: https://tools.runescape.wiki/demonic-pacts/?n=1-10-100-107-108-109-11-112-113-114-12-122-135-44-45-46-55-56-57-58-59-6-60-61-63-64-67-68-69-7-70-8-9-92-93-94-95-96-97-99

just threw this together in a few seconds so may be mistakes

[scenic garden]

tho for anything that doesn't poison/venom, I prefer to use crystal helm/legs + barrows body to max out thorns and magic. think that gives a better balance of defence bonuses from tank and accuracy from crystal

[shrewd ermine]

idk if I like crystal at all tbh, as the blessing doesnt work on elemental weapons

The crystal blessing is an echo item that can be obtained from Echo Corrupted Hunllef during the Demonic Pacts League. Equipped in the ammunition slot, the blessing expands the accuracy and damage bonus from crystal armour (which is usually only applied to the crystal bow and Bow of Faerdhinen) to all melee weapons (including barehanded attacks) and all magic powered weapons.

Additionally, the blessing provides +2% magic damage and +20 Magic attack bonus per crystal armour piece equipped (this is additive with the negative magic attack bonuses from the crystal armour pieces themselves; as the full crystal armour set has a negative magic attack bonus of -40 by default, equipping the blessing along with all three pieces of crystal armour will result in a total magic attack bonus of +20).

my take on this is that on top of the 15% dmg and 30% accuracy you get +6% magic and +60 magic accuracy, but if it's not powered, you just get the latter

[scenic garden]

The blessing also provides additional magic accuracy and damage for each piece.

so you get the 5/10/15% accuracy and 2% magic damage per piece even on autocast staves

[harsh oyster]

OUUUHHHH

so slow

[scenic garden]

or maybe it's the 2.5/5/7.5

[shrewd ermine]

autocast staves are non powered right? just making sure i understand the nomanclature

[scenic garden]

ye

[shrewd ermine]

i think you only get the additional magic damage and additional magic attack with autocast

as the language suggests that the first two columns only apply to powered

[scenic garden]

that's still alot when full justi puts you at -49

even better than the %

[shrewd ermine]

i hear ya. i cant speak on how good or bad justi is because i dont use it much. afaik the only places justi really shines at is vard and jad challenge

[scenic garden]

and you would got alot out of that 6% with prayair without thorns

would only be beat out by ancestral I think

[shrewd ermine]

oh yeah prayair dmg is nuts (though idk how much)

ive seen people crank out consistent 60s in tob

[scenic garden]

so if you have tirannwn but not kourend then you could get set up pretty well in crystal for full mage

plus if you're taking lithic to ToB to deal with nylos you'll have more of those bonuses

[shrewd ermine]

oh yeah im clearing hmt very comfortably with crystal water thorns

i mess up xarp reflect (which is kind of rng if ur speedrunnig) and verzik volleyball but otherwise ive got it generally down

[shrewd ermine]

just thinking about how I could squeeze out more dps without being a glass cannon

i know ive yapped about it for a while so i wont dwell on it for much longer lol

[scenic garden]

just look around for gear you have access to and see how it calcs out

tho I think either 1 piece or full justi is gonna be bis for water thorns

[shrewd ermine]

water has pretty high dmg in itself

[spring cipher]

ye

tho water is still a lil weaker

[shrewd ermine]

i havent ran a dps check on it but with full hp (water scales with overheal) I can do 60 dmg per hit with capstone

[spring cipher]

but the trade off is that u become immortal

[shrewd ermine]

wish wind surged used some water runes 😔

[scenic garden]

would be neat if there was a full ele spell we could abuse lol

[spring cipher]

ive spent

the last 7 hours training hunter

;_;

[shrewd ermine]

currently recharging my supplies

[spring cipher]

its not terrible tho

but wow lol

tbf i did start at 900k xp

[shrewd ermine]

hunter sucks (imo) but at least I have woodsman

[shrewd ermine]

i dont think im doing rumour tasks though those are annoying

[spring cipher]

hours later

[scenic garden]

rumours would be the fastest way to 99 and you get more quetzal spots along the way

[shrewd ermine]

hmm okay.

[spring cipher]

tbh the quetzel whistle is kinda useful

for getting around

[shrewd ermine]

last time I did hunter bird runs were the meta xd

[scenic garden]

yea, Its great for getting around varlamore

[shrewd ermine]

i see

[shrewd ermine]

i think I have some quetzal whistles but they're in random order whereas iirc you need the lowest tier to build up

thankfully I have bank heist which compensates a bit

i think I can max pretty comfortably but farming and herblore will need a bit of attention

[harsh oyster]

im pretty sure all quetzal whistles are infinite in leagues right?

[shrewd ermine]

idk but i mean making one

[spring cipher]

no u need to charge it

[lone bloom]

another 1

[scenic garden]

only with woodsman

forgot I didn't do my 300 kraken kc yet 🙃

[spring cipher]

yea i havent done that one either

wow i still have alot of stuff to do

no dragon full helm yet either

[lone bloom]

ow many cheweds

how*

[harsh oyster]

i have

[spring cipher]

not enough

[simple hazel]

Wait you’ve killed 2k mithril dragons and havent gotten a single chewed bone?

[spring cipher]

oh i didnt ss the bones part

there

[harsh oyster]

i should ppprroobbabbllyy max agility next

after smithing

i wonder if fishing sharks would be the best way to level fishing and cooking simultaneously

[simple hazel]

Lol i was like that’s the most unlucky thing ive ever seen lol

[simple hazel]

Do you have endless harvest?

[harsh oyster]

yurp

endless, barbarian and hotfoot

[simple hazel]

Oh

[spring cipher]

nahh im just being dumb

lmao

[simple hazel]

You reloaded into T1? That’s diabolical lol

[harsh oyster]

i started with barbarian and wanted endless

still worth it imo because i didnt take tir so the fact that i can just punch shit for the same efficiency as crystal tools is awesome

[simple hazel]

Lol then yea sharks would prob be best. Or i was gunna suggest karambwans

[harsh oyster]

i was doing karambwans for a minute but it was relatively slow xp and you still need karambwanji even with barbarian

[simple hazel]

Well you can buy them lol

If you do the quest

[harsh oyster]

ill have to see how sharks compare i guess, i can catch like thousands of karambwanji in the span of a few minutes

Yeah my ass is Not doing the full quest I hate tai bwo wannai trio

[spring cipher]

same here

[shrewd ermine]

do scythe charges count for regen charges?

[scenic garden]

should

I would think

[spring cipher]

tbf

u only need blood runes to charge it this leagues

u dont need vials of blood

[scenic garden]

this 1000 points task is much harder than I thought it was gonna be at 97 range in full huey with a dark bow

[shrewd ermine]

yeah im just lazy

i wanted to not make my own blood runes even with transmute XD

[harsh oyster]

at least theres that

[scenic garden]

I'm at +208 range bonus

and I'll nail the first 2-4 then hit a 20-30 >_>

[simple hazel]

The only annoying thing about the quest imo is getting the agility potion, but if you have kandarin you can just make the potion yourself

[harsh oyster]

no i just hate the entire quest and dont wanna do it

maybe if they give me 200 points for doing it ill do it next league

[simple hazel]

200pts for a 5-10min quest? Lol

[scenic garden]

https://tenor.com/view/lego-batman-no-problem-first-try-gif-12803885

[harsh oyster]

big win

[scenic garden]

was just watching chat here and I noticed I was up to 900 before the last arrow, then I hit it

[spring cipher]

i just bought a shit ton from the wizards guild

and then chucked it in

[shrewd ermine]

i got sanguine dust

looks so good but man it's so dark 😭

[smoky raft]

pondering my orb rn

[spring cipher]

do u have a pet to use it on

[shrewd ermine]

no

[spring cipher]

sadge

[shrewd ermine]

bruh

[spring cipher]

yea lol

[shrewd ermine]

idk how i lived since i was the "tank"

ffs

[spring cipher]

yea

xD

[shrewd ermine]

should i resign?

[spring cipher]

probably

[spring cipher]

u can tell how well the raid will go

just by seeing maiden

this is both true for leagues and main game

[shrewd ermine]

if they die to king ill dip

[spring cipher]

https://tenor.com/view/アトリ-atri-atri-anime-atri-my-dear-moments-atri-adaptation-gif-3866467084727918027

[tame flax]

if you ever need someone to perform so badly you look better by comparison make sure u hit me up

i gotchu

[shrewd ermine]

this isnt even a crappy lobby either (the 41 and i are doing fine)

@spring cipher

[past birch]

F

[tame flax]

wait you're on normal?

[shrewd ermine]

NO

this is hard

but so many people died it made me do it normally

[tame flax]

oh no

[shrewd ermine]

maybe

erm

watch a guide

[tame flax]

i kinda figured it would still just give you a chunk of the maze if people died

[scenic garden]

nope, that would be too easy and make too much sense

and it wouldn't grief the party

[tame flax]

im having so much fun doing 200 krakens

i love manually using fishing explosives

[shrewd ermine]

nah cause then you'd be screwed.

I dont want to be an ass, and i was very respectful in here and in game chat, but if you've never done raids before try to learn some of the mechanics and if you really need it (like I do) pick a build that has sustain

cause like I understand it's leagues, but I do want to progress and you (nobody in specific) not doing a minuture of prep wastes everyone's time

[tame flax]

i just skip the maze

[shrewd ermine]

not even just maze, blood was all over the floor in maiden, 3 people died to the blaot, 1 died to kings, 3 died to sotes so I was patient

[crystal kelp]

Too many people think because it's leagues they can just brute force it without a guide

[past birch]

That's just leagues for you, people think they can cheese everything with "infinite" sustain and all that

[spring cipher]

league players when they go "u can learn the raid in leagues" when they cant brute force the raid (not saying you but you know what i mean)

[shrewd ermine]

yeah

[past birch]

Yes I was gonna say this too

[unique cedar]

you could brute force stuff on gridmaster, i figured i was gonna be stronger on leagues by the end tbh

[past birch]

I knew for sure grindmaster power was way beyond what any league can achieve tbh

[scenic garden]

right cause I've learned nothing that could be applied to main game from my attempts

[past birch]

No area restriction, 2 tick tbow 100% accuracy with instant revive

[shrewd ermine]

i actually have been able to brute force a lot in tob and my build isn't even that developed. people just dont even bother to prep gear/pact wise so they show up with ahrims + blowpipe looking for a carry I guess

[past birch]

And infinite specs

Like

No way any league was matching that

In gridmaster there was even people skipping p3 yama with all the ridiculous dps

[spring cipher]

its mostly the tactics that are important
knowledge like "oh maiden does magic damage and i need to pray mage" can be found in guides lol

[shrewd ermine]

if you watch a guide on 2x speed and focus on the stuff people go over the longest, those are most of the mechanics you need to care about as a learner with sustain

[past birch]

Yeah for sure

It's like the most basic things possible

[spring cipher]

my point was that u cant carry leagues experience into main game

[past birch]

But it's true you can just watch a guide and with just two braincells you can get through a raid most of the time

[spring cipher]

oh yea for sure

[past birch]

Without the need to memorize everything

[lone bloom]

ight thats a wrap for today. went from 67k to 72k pts today

[past birch]

I mean in the league right

Not in the main game

There you gotta practice

[spring cipher]

i was referencing main agme

[tame flax]

why would you think that? you got like 40 relics and all the raging echoes masteries all at once
you got infinite food and potions man

[past birch]

Yeah gridmaster was way beyond what any league will get to in terms of power

I guess the only thing this league can do what gridmaster couldn't is the afk potential

[spring cipher]

gridmaster is

giga op

i agree

[spring cipher]

u didnt have to cause u could link 3 skills or 4 skills together

and max off just mining lol

[unique cedar]

i never did a leagues before

[past birch]

Ok i'll go again because maybe it was confusing lol, with the bare minimum you can go through a raid in the league, just gotta read what's on the wiki pretty much and you're good

Which is not something you can really do in the main game

So like, that should further solidify the idea that the learning curve in leagues and main game is completely different

With that said, if you're trolling in leagues raids then you're completely cooked in the main game

[spring cipher]

i want people who argue for it to group up after leagues

and go for a clear

its definitely doable

but it will feel alot different

okay done

[shrewd ermine]

my nemesis