leagues-general

[spring cipher]

its really fast

[languid belfry]

guess I'll head over

beats this broad bolt fletching

[spring cipher]

its been only 2 hours and i started with 1.9m fletching xp

[languid belfry]

think my fingers are cramping

[rocky harbor]

vale totems is so nice and chill.
why dont they do a raid in auburnvale. where we pick flowers and talk to Ents and pat green ghostly jaguars on the head. I could get behind that.

[spring cipher]

my friend got flamed by some guy in leagues cause he used barrows armour at moons

[languid belfry]

What.

[torpid trench]

Went full water for a fire cape, but barely made it to wave 50 after 1h

[languid belfry]

You use tank armor at moons anyway

[torpid trench]

so much painge

[languid belfry]

especially with thorns builds being common

[ripe turtle]

you need accuracy pacts my guy

[spring cipher]

thats the joke, he was like 700 total main game flaming him and my friend is grandmaster main game

[languid belfry]

[spring cipher]

my friend was like

"yo wtf"

[rocky harbor]

I had NO idea how to do barb assault. and people were very nice about that. Its fairly confusing.
seriously the devs fever dream that minigame is.

[languid belfry]

Man has 0 game knowledge

yet talks shit lmao

amazing

[torpid trench]

My dude, I am doing a fire cape, i have barely any to spend

[ripe turtle]

fair enough fair enough

[languid belfry]

Like granted I'm not high in main game either, but I've played 3 leagues and I consume more OSRS snowflake playthroughs than is healthy

[harsh oyster]

also yeah, i played the last deadman too and it taught me to take risks and not bee. As scared of pvp. ill still never willingly engage with risky pvp but it definitely eased a bit of wilderness anxiety

[languid belfry]

so I know weird shit.

[rocky harbor]

My next goal is to get some zenytes.

[spring cipher]

i just have sporadic knowledge from playing leagues

but main game i just buy shit with gp

[harsh oyster]

i wonder if i should go for the zenyte jewelry task... thats 400 points right?

[ripe turtle]

The only place to flame people in leagues is at gemstone crab because they're not wearing fashionscape

or not yapping enough

[spring cipher]

i have random ass knowledge like "did you know theres a spade on the second floor of the varrock general store?" type shit

[ripe turtle]

make gemstone crab hit 30s if you haven't typed in the last 2 minutes

[languid belfry]

When I can make 1-2 mil from just making ultracompost and buy gear

It's just so much easier to do that

than actually go farm gear lol

[harsh oyster]

negated if youre wearing clue scroll cosmetics

[ripe turtle]

^

[rocky harbor]

i want more samurai stuff. i only have the hat.

[harsh oyster]

i know i sent it last night (and technically earlier) but still

[ripe turtle]

Somewhere out there somebody is using the katana light melee ranged echoes build

I know it

[rocky harbor]

how many zenyte items are there? 3?

[harsh oyster]

i thought about it

[harsh oyster]

4

[spring cipher]

4

[harsh oyster]

ring, bracelet, amulet, necklace

[rocky harbor]

oh yeah i forgot about ammy of torture

[harsh oyster]

like i Fully thought about it my initial build was light weapons and i picked conniving

i could have

Still might honestly once i hit rune for the bit

maybe sooner if they give us another reset

[smoky raft]

me running to the pub in civitas to grab the black robe spawn immediately after leagues started

that's a free magic upgrade

[ripe turtle]

i DO have d claws and katana

[harsh oyster]

you know what must bee done

[fickle thistle]

checked 666, 400, 401, and the official league world and i found one other person at BA. do people not need this anymore?

[ripe turtle]

like i could do it but I would throw away both my final resets

[rocky harbor]

I went thru that too Jared.

If you stay there long enough people will show up.

some of them hop worlds and gather people to 666

[fickle thistle]

another person showed, there's hope

two more

[rocky harbor]

Still is headscrather to me why they didnt include tempoross as a world. I figured out how to do solo so its fine.

[harsh oyster]

i still think its hilarious that the fastest way to get wraths is hopping on castle wars

[smoky raft]

solo tempoross ended up being significantly faster for me anyway

endless harvest + flow state meant I could catch all, cook all, and fire 16/18 harpoonfish before the first wave, plus guaranteed the victory in one down

each kill took me about 2 minutes, including the wait between fights

[torpid trench]

https://tools.runescape.wiki/demonic-pacts/?n=1-100-101-11-135-136-139-140-141-145-146-150-157-161-17-18-2-3-4-43-5-61-7-71-73-74-8-80-81-82-83-84-86-94-95-96-97-99 Thoughts on this silly build for a full Dihns?

[rocky harbor]

way more reward points that way. Even in main if people dont attack spirit pool every time theres more.

[harsh oyster]

doesnt dinh work for the offhand pact?

[rocky harbor]

Im not far from final relic. Is there a frontrunner choice there?

[harsh oyster]

minion if skilling more flask if pvm more

[torpid trench]

Not sure if it counts for oh since it equips in the mh

[harsh oyster]

axe is very nearly useless outside of niche situations

[torpid trench]

but its a shield, which the game generally classes as oh weapons

[harsh oyster]

yeah

im not sure

if it does it might bee worth taking the offhand pact

[smoky raft]

flask helps you do content you don't have the skill to do normally
minion helps you do content you do have the skill to do, faster

flask is also a good choice if you didn't pick eternal sustenance and also aren't a water mage

[torpid trench]

wait no, it wouldnt count as an oh

it counts as a 2h

because blindbag

[smoky raft]

it's technically equipped in the mh slot

[torpid trench]

so is every 2h weapon

[harsh oyster]

minion is extremely useful and can max hit 20 dmg (when upgraded fully w 5 unique zammy items)

[torpid trench]

thats my point

[smoky raft]

I think that's what the offhand pact is looking for

[harsh oyster]

i think minion is the better choice across the board but flask is very good too

[smoky raft]

minion gets bonus style points becuase you get a little guy!!!

[torpid trench]

^

does being on a slayer task boost the droprate of a black mask

[smoky raft]

I don't think so?

[shrewd ermine]

[torpid trench]

[smoky raft]

should be ~1/102

[harsh oyster]

True...

what are thralls in maingame?

like how do i get or use those

[smoky raft]

thralls are temporary summons that do a minor amount of damage

but it's free damage so you may as well summon them

they're created via spells in the Arceuus spellbook

[spring cipher]

unlocks after [[akd]]

[obsidian bluff]

Wiki links found:
https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/A_Kingdom_Divided

[harsh oyster]

[smoky raft]

yeah you need AKD too

[harsh oyster]

ill have to go do that just for thralls so i can use the minion thrall transmog for little guy aura

[torpid trench]

How do i even get to mos le harmless?

I dont remember the last time i went there in main game

[smoky raft]

minigame tp

that's probably your best bet

[harsh oyster]

i love that minigame tp also lacks the cooldown

[torpid trench]

ah

big ty

is there someone on mosle harmless that sells a light source? I forgot you need one

[harsh oyster]

Nop

[torpid trench]

guess im goin to the hunters guild for a torch

bruh i dont have the hunter level

[scenic garden]

there's a guy trying to pickpocket this vyre without the relic

[harsh oyster]

dont need it i dont think

hunter guild torch is just sitting there

[shrewd ermine]

guys

in tob

how does verzik's blue orb thingy work

i dont know and i died

[scenic garden]

like the blue orb she shoots at you?

pray mage

[shrewd ermine]

that's all?

[scenic garden]

ye

[shrewd ermine]

ive been doing that but I get hit by 70

[scenic garden]

if it's hmt I think you need to step under to avoid a melee attack

but it should just be prayer mage or range in that phase in nmt

[shrewd ermine]

i know i didnt step out of the first puddle

but the other one looks like it came out of nowhere

[scenic garden]

you got green balled

she seems to alternate between fast and slow green balls

the fast ones come at you like a bullet train so you just need to keep moving between attacks

[shrewd ermine]

i see

what happened here?

[torpid trench]

That was just her regular range attack, not the green ball

[shrewd ermine]

did I just not time the other green balls properly

[torpid trench]

But yeah, just gotta move

oh i was referencing first vid

[shrewd ermine]

yeah ik

i keep dying to green balls

[torpid trench]

You got tornado'd and green balled

or heal orbd'd, idk what to call it

but it looks like your timing was off, and you tanked 1/3 of the greens, and got tornado'd at the same time

[scenic garden]

yea that one was rough

maybe needed to go to the tile closer to her

then work your way out

so you could have closer ones to go to

[torpid trench]

By not grabbing even the basic thorns nodes when i redid my pacts, i think ive screwed myself

All my good points and easy-ish pacts are locked behind content i dont think i can do yet with the gear/pacts i have available

[sullen skiff]

anyone need some orbs? XD

[shrewd ermine]

i beat tob without dying

-# in verzik

[fleet ibex]

Which boss did you die in?

[shrewd ermine]

xarpus cause im dumb

[fleet ibex]

Ah, yeah I can imagine how

Got clapped after hitting him in the face?

[shrewd ermine]

i know he doesnt look twice or whatever

in the same spot

but other than that idk

[fleet ibex]

It depends whether hm or not

[shrewd ermine]

it is hm

[fleet ibex]

In HM he turns to whoever hit him last

If you’re all off tick from each other, it’s a free final phase

[shrewd ermine]

so basically rng?

[crystal kelp]

In phase 1 when she's sitting on her throne, the blue attack is just her regular attack and you should be praying mage

In phase 2 she can throw out a blue lightning attack which bounces to other players if you're near them (also can bounce to her and deal damage to her).

As for your other videos, the cabbages she throws out to you are ranged attacks and she does them on a 4 tick cycle and you should move in that timing to avoid them. Sometimes they are slow throws and that's just to screw with people, she doesn't alternate, the slow cabbages are random.

On the final video with the yellow pools on the floor, there are 3 in your quadrant and you need to stand on 1, the green ball will land on you then you move to the next one and repeat for the last pool. Generally considered better to tank a heal to verzik than to die from that (though ideally neither)

This stuff should be covered in any good ToB guide on YouTube

[fleet ibex]

In leagues probably but in base game nah, it’s free if you can time it with team

[crystal kelp]

In leagues it's funny because people have either 1t staff or 2t elementals so timing is tricky

[fleet ibex]

Tbf as long as your attack is the slowest, you should be fine

If someone is 1ticking then they should always take agro before you next hit with a 2t

Abuse your teammates

[past birch]

No you're not

[shrewd ermine]

a little

[past birch]

We're all a little

[gentle shadow]

This may be a dumb question but as a Water thorns mage what mega rare should I grab for doing TOB and COX. Im pretty new to late game content

[spring cipher]

im ngl unless ur running a blindbag build

most of the echo weapons are stronger than the megarares this leagues

[shrewd ermine]

[past birch]

F

[spring cipher]

just heal over i think 87 hp or something like that

[shrewd ermine]

[spring cipher]

unless its hmt

then ur dead if u dont pass the ball twice at least

[shrewd ermine]

it was 87

[spring cipher]

87 with redemption up?

[shrewd ermine]

+101

[spring cipher]

oh

thats hmt then

[past birch]

This looks huge in my phone

[upper summit]

kc 479 - 3/4 axe, still no robe top

[spring cipher]

u HAVE to pass the ball at least once to reduce the next damage to be like 100 damage and then 80 damage on the next bounce

[shrewd ermine]

idk how to pass it

so it just came at me like

https://tenor.com/view/explosion-cat-gif-5858640239144030160

[spring cipher]

run next to someone

and give them the gift of bombs

[shrewd ermine]

okay

im just glad I dont have 0 anymore

-# i still havent been accepted

[spring cipher]

they know u use catbugsus

[shrewd ermine]

[spring cipher]

99 thieving next

[past birch]

How many points you have now?

[gentle shadow]

Fair, prolly just gonna go scythe for bloat or sumtn

[past birch]

Tell me tell me

[past birch]

That works

But shes right just take all megas for points

Shadow is the worst mega this year

[spring cipher]

blindbag works well with scythe

but thats about it

[past birch]

Scythe can be decent for a melee switch and blindbag

And tbow is insane in cox but you need bow pacts

Therefore respecs for it

[shrewd ermine]

that's a lot of points

[gentle shadow]

Im just torn since Ohms head takes forever as mage but so does bloat

[past birch]

Not bad

[spring cipher]

you like how i maxed smithing without hot foot or priff?

[past birch]

You'll get dragon

I believe in you

[spring cipher]

3 full days of steel dragons

12 thousand steel bars

[past birch]

For bloat you can just use scythe and ohm doesn't matter too mucj

[sullen skiff]

stacked up so many orbs they became a orange stack in price XD

[spring cipher]

waow

[past birch]

Lol nice

[shrewd ermine]

perhaps

[spring cipher]

wish i havent reset my tracker

but this was part of it

[shrewd ermine]

full helm when

[spring cipher]

that was a steel dragon

it doesnt drop it

thats mith dragon

[shrewd ermine]

o yea

[spring cipher]

im maxing acc first and then returning to rng grinds

to pad out the rest of my points

99 smithing 99 cons 99 fletching today

its a good day

[past birch]

What did you take for tier 2 relic?

[past birch]

Oh you reloaded into harvest

[spring cipher]

ye

i realized i needed to afk at work

and took harvest anyways

[past birch]

Good idea

[shrewd ermine]

im doing raids for a while

[past birch]

Some tasks will be free

[past birch]

You two should raid together

[spring cipher]

i kinda ran out of things to afk at work

[past birch]

Well I guess you got pets left?

Or you have a skilling one

Also 200m xp for a skill that's 200 points so

[past birch]

Ah right

[shrewd ermine]

i think im pro

[spring cipher]

400 points for 200m

[past birch]

What were you doing in Narnia

[past birch]

Well I guess you really ran out of afk stuff...

[spring cipher]

hell i even

[shrewd ermine]

standing

[past birch]

Just raid with mac

And get all raid points

[spring cipher]

i dont feel like

doing 50 tobs

ill prob end up soloing cox tho

like for the 50kc task

[past birch]

If you wanna send cox hit me up I help you

https://tenor.com/view/six-seven-gif-9491824139405435553

[spring cipher]

that'll be for after i do my chores

(skilling)

99 thieving is next

[past birch]

I gotta do main game stuff as well

I practiced contracts

[spring cipher]

good ole ardy knights

did not take larceny

[past birch]

Guard

[spring cipher]

at least with abundence i can stop failing ardy knights earlier

[simple hazel]

Is 4 zenyte in 52kc spoon? Lol

[spring cipher]

ye

its 1/60 in leagues

u havent evne reached the drop rate for 1

[simple hazel]

Lol yay

[past birch]

Did you get the diaries for additional chances?

[spring cipher]

yea i needed to finish ardy elites

for max dps air mage

bis prayer

[past birch]

And if you're not lazy you can use

I forgot the name of the arceuus spell that boosts thieving chances

[spring cipher]

for agility, for the first part im gonna do brimhaven so i can also get the pirate hook

thats 400 points

[past birch]

Yeah pirate hook free 400

[spring cipher]

im doing all the skills i hate first to 99

saving herblore and firemaking to get 99 last

mixology and wintertodt solos are gonna be chiller

[past birch]

At least you got wt

[spring cipher]

thats exactly why im going to 50m xp there

[past birch]

Although if you wanna rush fm you might wanna go to theme world

[spring cipher]

if theres nobody left idm a solo world

its one of those things i wont worry too much about

[past birch]

Maybe you could leave fletching slightly lower so you can get some fletch at wt

[spring cipher]

i just finished 99 fletching earlier

via vales

vales are chill so if i really want the points i can push for 25m later

[past birch]

There's so many lvls I had so low and got dragon anyways I'm still surprised

I did 1 wt

[spring cipher]

ye but im lazy and basically avoided cas

[shrewd ermine]

should I equip justi and get rid of my crystal armour for raids?

[past birch]

CAs is sooo many points

[past birch]

Mmm crystal should be way better

[shrewd ermine]

well im water and thorns

[past birch]

Justi has awful mage accuracy

[shrewd ermine]

true but pacts give a ton of that

[past birch]

But the accuracy isn't flat, it's a %

If you have +200% accuracy with full justi

That's like +10 mage

And also

Most mechanics that will kill you aren't really helped with justi defence

[shrewd ermine]

fair, i was told justi is really good for some content though

[past birch]

Xarpus stare and poison, verzil balls

Random bloat stomp idk

[past birch]

Maybe some jad challenges

Maybe some afk content

I'm not convinced justi will be any better thsn crystal tbh

[shrewd ermine]

btw should I be using sang stuff instead of shadowflame with crystal armour and 1 tick?

[past birch]

Shadowflame is unbeatable

Too much dps

[spring cipher]

what you'll learn about raiding is that avoiding the mechanic will make you take less damage than wearing tanky shit and tanking it
most of the time if ur wearing tank armour and making a mistake ur still taking the full 80 damage for the mistake cause "haha you failed the mechanic ur getting punished anyways"

[past birch]

Yeah especially in hardmode tob

Where all the raid is based on punishes

[spring cipher]

the best defence is just to do the mechanic correctly

also did u know

[spring cipher]

they even buffed hmt's damage in leagues

scaled it to league's tier of damage

[past birch]

Yeah that makes sense

[shrewd ermine]

so when do i do justi? vard?

[past birch]

I think toa is the only one untouched

[past birch]

Tbh not even vard

[spring cipher]

its cause toa already got burning tombs

[past birch]

Vard has high mage def

Are you sure you're not splashimg like crazy with justi?

Maybe you can test and tell us

[past birch]

Although that invo is like

Kind of a joke

[spring cipher]

yea

[past birch]

If it was in the main game would have 100% pick rate

[old tapir]

that's the point of it

to pump your numbers without adding mechanics

[shrewd ermine]

[next dust]

closer!

[rich thistle]

Is there a running round in circles agility training spot in this league?

[next dust]

what EH / woodsman did we find as best xp?

[shrewd ermine]

i cant tell if they were talking about xarp or me alternating tiles every time i attacked

i assume what i did here was fine

[past birch]

That's the thing, it doesn't pump any numbers

In CM for example you can explode at Olm

But in wardens everything has the same damage as the main game lol

You usually see water mages not even dodgimg shockwaves they just stand there

[past birch]

Well you went to the other edge out of nowhere lol

[old tapir]

yeah it does, it pumps the invocation number by 200

[shrewd ermine]

yea the end was a bit odd

[past birch]

Noo but it doesn't add damage it's just invo filler lol

[old tapir]

exactly

[past birch]

But the first movement was fine

[past birch]

[shrewd ermine]

😭

[past birch]

Wtf?

What happened here

[shrewd ermine]

they just booked it

probably thought they could tank it with flask ig

idk though

[past birch]

Man that raid

I'm glad I didn't take morytania it looks aids

[shrewd ermine]

i have a kill count now

[surreal kiln]

Mory hard mode Is overcooked this League xD

Too many ppl that try nobraining it And grief others

[shrewd ermine]

besides that one incident (which they carried) my experience has been fine

btw whats the best magic gear for KTM? afaik it's crystal/mystic

[jovial bone]

This is what I had in mind, or something adjacent to it

[past birch]

Crystal yeah thats best for you

[shrewd ermine]

even if im not using powered?

because the bonus only works on powered

[past birch]

Doesmt crystsl give you mage damage?

[shrewd ermine]

only powered

so shadowflame doesnt

but sang, toxic, lithic does

[jovial bone]

The blessing only works for powered staves? I thought it was all magic

[shrewd ermine]

nop

[jovial bone]

Hmmm

[shrewd ermine]

powered only

but with accuracy modifiers it's not a big deal

[jovial bone]

Yeah it still gives ~20 magic accuracy

[next dust]

so a "jad task" doesnt seem to work in the jad challenges

[shrewd ermine]

do you pray magic or range for blue tob orb?

[next dust]

does a regular tzhaar task work?

[languid belfry]

You want to prioritize that last overheal node there

188 hp breaks some instant kill thresholds.

Also I'd try to get the one thorns node that heals you based on tile distance

If you want to take the distance = accuracy node

that one helps a lot in inferno and colosseum

Realistically you can fix that at 40

but I kind of question how much you need the far accuracy node with air.

maybe as a last point?

[jovial bone]

Yeah those were the later nodes for sure

[languid belfry]

yeah

you want the overheal node

underneath the 2 Prayer and HP shield node

much earlier than those accuracy nodes tbh

[jovial bone]

Oh of course, silly of me

The image I posted was 37/40

[next dust]

echo vs pegasian for crossbow

[jovial bone]

Problem is I don't know the order of operation, so to say. But I feel like I should prioritize the left side before anything else

With my limited points

[languid belfry]

I'd say it's this:

Thorns -> Shield -> Water + faster casts -> All Overheal Nodes (Try to pick these up as you get close to them) -> Air -> Accuracy

based on what content it lets you clear

By the time you get all overheal you can do all jad challenges + Inferno + Colosseum

then you go air for everything that thorns or water magic couldn't solve

[jovial bone]

Appreciate the optimism

[languid belfry]

and accuracy to make it more consistent.

I didn't go air admittedly so I don't know how that compares to just sending powered staffs instead

[jovial bone]

Would it be too much to ask for you to number them via the site?

[languid belfry]

but I did basically that exact route outside of skipping air to just get accuracy

and hit 40 points today.

uhhhhh

link site

[old tapir]

fully afking hydra in the blue corner is kinda okay

[jovial bone]

https://www.osrsleaguescountdown.io/tree?name=STARTER

Oh and the build-in-progress didn't have powered staves checked

[old tapir]

tested all 4 corners just to be sure
door corner; ~2:50
red corner; ~ 2:30
green corner; ~2:25
blue corner; ~2:00

about half the speed of active kills

[upper summit]

kc 519 - ultor ring #2

[languid belfry]

https://www.osrsleaguescountdown.io/tree?name=STARTER

you can then finish with the way you did it

or.....

honestly I wonder

[jovial bone]

I am atrocious at buildcrafting, so any input is welcome

[languid belfry]

nah that'd cost you regeneration

https://www.osrsleaguescountdown.io/tree?name=STARTER

probably this

I was wondering if we could cut two nodes out and go from the left side to the far accuracy node

but realistically this is probably just better

You want 100%+ regen for consistency

otherwise you can get rnged into like a bad roll

this build notably only has 50% prayer pen though

so make sure you finish corrupted gauntlet grinds/etc

before that

[shrewd ermine]

how do mega rares work in leagues? someone said if one person gets a mega rare we all do idk

[languid belfry]

No. That's just purples in theater of blood hard mode

you need to get a voucher which is a 1/13 purple drop or something

then turn it in at the Leagues tutor

[old tapir]

and in expert tombs

[shrewd ermine]

[languid belfry]

but also the real megarares this leagues are Shadowflame Quadrant and King's Barrage anyway

tbh

[old tapir]

scythe has its uses

but yeah its not a tbow or shadow league at all

[languid belfry]

Yeah

scythe is good in...Theater of Blood

and anything that's magic immune

[potent leaf]

Hey guys is there a way to range tekton?

[languid belfry]

🙃

"No."

[old tapir]

nope, he's fully immune to range

can mage him tho

[potent leaf]

Ty

[shrewd ermine]

[languid belfry]

See another bulletpoint on my list of: "This is why CoX sucks"

run southwest.

run skips a node.

[shrewd ermine]

oh i know

just was funny

[languid belfry]

lmao

yeah

[jovial bone]

I am doing that as we speak, trying for an enhanced seed

[languid belfry]

I also realized shadowflame was all elemental runes later

so between the transmute book uh

every water + thorns mage has entangle

So fucking use it you slackers

[old tapir]

i still keep all the elemental runes on my person even though it does that

[languid belfry]

yeah

because otherwise it

dumps runes into your inv

[old tapir]

one, because putting air and water runes in your pouch is just painful to have to empty every hour

[jovial bone]

Ok it doesn't show the order. Could you send a screenshot of it instead? Sorry

[old tapir]

and two, its nice to be able to teleport without quadrant equipped, which it isn't always

[languid belfry]

https://i.gyazo.com/ceebbed5d201e440c63dca75d180c2dc.jpg

[languid belfry]

I still don't have a rune pouch...

I did all of ToB and ToA farming without one

now that my raid grinds are done though it's time for me to go finish up slayer lol

[old tapir]

interesting variance on my build to incorporate air

more people need to realise these 5 nodes are a never pick

its always better to route around them

unless earth mage, but that's a fat lol

[jovial bone]

And I can swap 1 accuracy node for powered staff node, yeah? And if I want powered staves node, would I need anther node to compliment that?

[next dust]

javelin shaft task, finally

the dragon one

it just wouldnt drop twice hah

but ofc the second drop is more than 100.

[celest widget]

has anyone tried earth mage at all?

[shrewd ermine]

[coral jasper]

anyone still need barb assault L5s?

[jovial bone]

I could use som BA, yeah

[shrewd ermine]

[next dust]

5x perfect whisperer is annoying

cause the leagues damage makes it skip phases sometimes

[coral jasper]

add me in game ign: RazorFin91

[next dust]

this is so garbo lol

[harsh oyster]

99wc today

[shrewd ermine]

mushroom cloud

[coral jasper]

wrld 400 now

[jovial bone]

Coming

[next dust]

now it's just awakened whisperer, and 224 kc.

are these meant to be any good?

[harsh oyster]

maxing my oppenheimer skill

[shrewd ermine]

https://tenor.com/view/explosion-cat-gif-5858640239144030160

[next dust]

ill try.

dont think i will tho

[shrewd ermine]

[next dust]

what is the idea with the pillars btw? there wasnt enough to hide for 5 attacks?

they all disappeared after 3

i wouldve had that.

lame

[crystal kelp]

They last 5 attacks if you do them in the right order

[languid belfry]

In the current setup? Probably not. I don't see an easy accuracy node to swap out while maintaining air

[next dust]

hm idk what the hp thresholds is supposed to look like then

[languid belfry]

and 100% regenration

*Regeneration

[jovial bone]

Hmm right

[languid belfry]

You could get rid of the max accuracy node probably

[jovial bone]

Once I get the Shadowflame staff I suppose I would never need 1t staff anyway

[languid belfry]

• the node leading up to it

to get the 1t staff

uhh

if you get mory + lithic

there are situations where if you're rocking full thorns and can't hit with magic anyway (Phosani nightmare)

[next dust]

i think the max accuracy node is probably the strongest acuracy node that exists

[languid belfry]

you might want the 1t staff

but tbh having an Air swap option is probably stronger

tbh the real choice between Air, 1t staff, or 1h melee even is this:

[crystal kelp]

You can do pnm with magic, it's not good but you can

[languid belfry]

Not water mage you can't, not phase 4.

at least not with the uh, 65% accuracy I had when going into it

I haven't tried it at my current +215% accuracy

[crystal kelp]

I did it with water thorns, wasn't a good time but funny for sure

[languid belfry]

how much accuracy did you have by then

Because admittedly trying to do it with 65% accuracy was very stupid

[languid belfry]

@jovial bone Following up on this though, the choice is deciding: "What do you want your solution to when both Water Magic and Thorns fail you in an encounter?"

[crystal kelp]

No clue, but it wasn't a load (more than 65%), I just figured I could do it since I knew pnm in main game

[jovial bone]

Alright

Massively appreciate the help

[languid belfry]

Some people do air, some people do lithic sceptre, and some people do 1h melee

[crystal kelp]

Confliction gauntlets

[jovial bone]

[shrewd ermine]

is it worth using virtus robes instead of crystal if I'm using crystal gear currently with shadowflame? crystal gear is nice and offers a bit more defense, but it has less accuracy and the blessing doesn't work on shadowflame?

[languid belfry]

Yeah okay I didn't have those

LMAO

[crystal kelp]

Sceptre v good choice though

[languid belfry]

"Can my magic spells actually hit this fight/make a difference"

"Or are my thorns doing more damage"

That's the deciding factor.

If your thorns isn't going off enough to matter and your damage is all mage, you throw on virtus

if not, camp crystal

lol

And if your damage is completely thorns anyway, you camp justicar

[shrewd ermine]

im not sure how much they both do. with recoil and thorns it's a bit hard to say

[languid belfry]

my rule of the thumb is

...no that's wrong, sorry I'm tired

[shrewd ermine]

i get what you mean (i think)

[languid belfry]

Actual rule of the thumb is, are you actually hitting an enemy with magic

and is the enemy attacking at like 4t or faster

• obviously they have to be able to trigger thorns.

Like on doom ironically I'd camp justicar/crystal

just because it has stupid high magic defense/level

and my damage is mostly thorns there.

Also very importantly, if you have flask

Are your thorns doing 20/10 (2nd hit) damage?

If so, your thorns is probably better than magic in every world.

because that's a 3t reduction on your flask cd every time you trigger thorns

vs 1t.

[shrewd ermine]

so do vardorvis with justi? someone said no, but with its high magic defense idk if that's accurate

[languid belfry]

Vardorvis? Almost certainly justicar yes.

[shrewd ermine]

ok thought so

[languid belfry]

you're not hitting that unless you're air mage probably

[shrewd ermine]

air mage focuses more on prayer than accuracy i thought

[languid belfry]

I'd still do shadowflame quadrant for healing because Vardorvis hits like a truck

[languid belfry]

that's the point

[harsh oyster]

more like vardorkis

[languid belfry]

because of their capstone they can actually hit enemies that are normally impossible to hit with mage

lol

while every other mage just cries

[harsh oyster]

air mage focuses on prayer AND accuracy its like 100% accuracy

[languid belfry]

yeah

which is why air mage can mage anything without 100% magic immunity

[harsh oyster]

im really tempted to farm out sunfire fanatic and go full prayair but im not sure how id fare without sustain

im not very good at combat but if im doing enough dps to obliterate everything im not sure if it matters

[languid belfry]

uh

I want to say single target combat becomes much easier

[shrewd ermine]

im confused, air mage scales with pray? I thought they needed pray and acuracy

[languid belfry]

but you then need to know how to actually do colosseum/inferno

[languid belfry]

read their capstone

[harsh oyster]

yeahhh

[languid belfry]

1% to max hit with every 1 prayer bonus.

[harsh oyster]

im gonna wait around until they inevitably give us another reset

[shrewd ermine]

i see

[languid belfry]

you still want

accuracy ofc

[shrewd ermine]

right I read it but I assume the max hit percent was based on AFTER you rolled the accuracy

[languid belfry]

but 1% max hit means that if you stack even like +50 prayer bonus

Maybe? But not from what I've been hearing from air mages 🤔

https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Prayer_items#Highest_Prayer_bonus

Either way both can't hurt

[shrewd ermine]

yeah, its def worth considring though

[harsh oyster]

i mean theres a reason that prayer maxxing gear is most popular for prayair i assume

[languid belfry]

Oh found it.

Yes this is how it works, but you still need to roll accuracy, which means you either hit zero or max. If you combine it with either devils element or the quadrant (I forget) it will always cast as if the monster is weak to air; so this air build will essentially be hitting max (~70-100) every 3 ticks, with extremely high accuracy. I think this is one of the top builds out there.

I expect Faux will release this build on a video soon, but here you go:```

[shrewd ermine]

thought so

[languid belfry]

Main thing is devil's element + quadrant making stuff always weak to air.

[harsh oyster]

i should really go back and get the element

[languid belfry]

For every percentage point of elemental weakness that an NPC has, the player will gain an extra 1% magic damage and 1% magic accuracy to their attacks. The bonus to magic damage is added after all previous magic damage sources, such as equipment or bonuses from the Slayer helmet (i) or Salve amulet (i).

So you have 70% + whatever extra % you had from pacts

and since to even get to the air capstone you need 95% accuracy

[shrewd ermine]

what is the standard prayair gear for someone that doesnt have zeah?

(KTM)

[harsh oyster]

full sunfire fanatic, quadrant and element is what i typically see worn plus whatever other prayer boosting gear

[languid belfry]

just from air capstone alone you're already sitting at a pretty 175% accuracy from shadowflame + element

yeah

[harsh oyster]

even With zeah thats best iirc

[languid belfry]

zeah just gets rada's blessing for another +4

[harsh oyster]

tir already has crystal blessing

which is plus 5

[shrewd ermine]

i see, and people max water tree for heals?

[jovial bone]

God Vestment

[languid belfry]

Echo boots is +4

[languid belfry]

not everyone.

[harsh oyster]

god vestment is not nearly as good as sunfire fanatic

[jovial bone]

Of course not

I just listed options

[languid belfry]

sunfire vestment is +5 vs sunfire's +8

[jovial bone]

I have never done Colli

[languid belfry]

realistically just go water + thorns and farm out full sunfire

you don't even need to get to sol

and it's afk

[harsh oyster]

i mean TECHNICALLY its better in the prayer department, god vestment is plus 35 total vs sunfires plus 24 total

[languid belfry]

uhhhhhhhh

[harsh oyster]

but sunfire fanatic has wayyyy better defensive stats thus making it a better option overall

[languid belfry]

https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Prayer_items#Highest_Prayer_bonus

not from this

sunfire is higher than all god vestments

prayer bonus wise

[harsh oyster]

full god vestment*

[shrewd ermine]

make sure ur not accounting for these as well

[harsh oyster]

re

[shrewd ermine]

i cant

[languid belfry]

yeah you

[shrewd ermine]

reading too hard

[languid belfry]

can't use stole and crozier

[harsh oyster]

stole you could

crozier. Indeed you could not

[languid belfry]

oh right stole is neck

I guess yeah

[shrewd ermine]

i feel like occult/fury is still good

[harsh oyster]

so still plus 34 with crystal blessing

[next dust]

how do you do Awakened Whisperer without desert?

[harsh oyster]

and more with echo boots

[harsh oyster]

?

whisperer is asgarnia

[languid belfry]

38 with echo boots

[next dust]

i have to hope Undead Grasp freezes*

[harsh oyster]

yeah

[next dust]

yes

i dont have Freeze

[languid belfry]

also ardongue cloak 4 is +6 prayer

[shrewd ermine]

could you do water/air/thorns or is that too greedy?

for pacts

[harsh oyster]

you can

[languid belfry]

That's the build I sent @Ab

@jovial bone

[shrewd ermine]

can you resend?

[harsh oyster]

ok bored of woodcutting now back to shitty doom runs

for Avernics

[languid belfry]

This is just my recommendation

based on how you want to get your pact points

By the time I hit the 188 overheal pact point

[tacit oyster]

entangle is guaranteed freeze on standard spellbook

[harsh oyster]

this is less sustain than straight waterthorns but still crazy

[languid belfry]

?

You have full water + thorns

the air is the extra.

[next dust]

isnt the dps from thralls gonna be valuable?

[languid belfry]

you trade power staffs for the ability to go air and kill someone and their entire family.

[harsh oyster]

FULL waterthorns has more regen nodes

[languid belfry]

....why

you already heal to full

[harsh oyster]

regens even more often thus heals even more and even more often

[languid belfry]

every spell cast

🤔

[harsh oyster]

even higher sustain

[languid belfry]

I mean

bloodfury necklace

[harsh oyster]

its not necessary but it is even more broken

[tacit oyster]

sure you can run thralls for +0.6dps but it shouldnt really matter

[languid belfry]

hell no lmao

Take it from an idiot who took grimoire

as their reloaded

thralls are hot trash this leagues

[next dust]

i mean i also got minion

[languid belfry]

exactly.

it is not worth swapping your books

[next dust]

its extra hitmarkers

[languid belfry]

for a +3 hit marker every 4 ticks

[jovial bone]

How do you even get Wrath runes without RC? I can't for the life of me find a single soul in BA

[languid belfry]

transmute

[shrewd ermine]

this is similar to what I have i just have a lot more prayer pen cause i ran gauntlet

[jovial bone]

Okay, I keep forgetting about Transmute because I don't have it

[languid belfry]

I have more prayer pen in my own build due to ToA + demonic gorillas

this is just for Albius

Abius

[harsh oyster]

run castle wars

[languid belfry]

because they...yeah

They have a bit of a weirder routing.

[jovial bone]

Because I?

[languid belfry]

and are planning to respec into water + thorns

rather than starting with it

[harsh oyster]

castle wars casting surges regens wraths into your inventory

that you keep

[languid belfry]

oh

good tech

yeah

castle wars

just get 1 friend or someone here

[harsh oyster]

castle wars gives you a bottomless rune pouch that you can use to cast any tier spell

[languid belfry]

and go to town

[jovial bone]

Do you get initial runes, like BA?

[harsh oyster]

?

oh

[harsh oyster]

this

https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Rune_pouch_(Castle_Wars)

[languid belfry]

https://tools.runescape.wiki/demonic-pacts/?n=1-10-100-101-11-112-113-114-122-133-134-135-136-139-140-141-145-146-44-45-46-53-55-56-58-59-6-60-68-7-71-74-8-81-84-9-93-96-97-99

This is the build I'm currently running ingame

[harsh oyster]

its what i did to get my wraths and after i had 100% plus regen chance i just had infinite wraths lol

[languid belfry]

for 100% prayer pen to let me clear tasks

[shrewd ermine]

i think 25% prayer pen is nice just in case

[jovial bone]

See I had no idea about this. I can just get my friend in on the opposite side once I get 100+ regen and go nuts from there? Sicko mode

[languid belfry]

water thorns if you don't route like a baboon

will always have 50% prayer penetration

I just went 100% because I went 411 KC for one fucking Zenyte

at Demonic Gorillas

and I went insane.

I'm still mad.

thorns is "great" for gorillas- except it makes them swap prayers and CANCEL YOUR ATTACKS.

...so you realistically just want to camp mage and element

no thorns

and just hit them.

[harsh oyster]

yurp

[languid belfry]

lol

[harsh oyster]

dont even really need that i went to the uhhh group pvm world i think? and there were a few people there

[languid belfry]

Does thorns work in pvp btw

[harsh oyster]

i just casted surges on randoms a bunch until i had like 50 wraths then left lmfao

[languid belfry]

just curious

[harsh oyster]

i dont think so

[languid belfry]

I was about to say

[harsh oyster]

honestly i didnt really pay attention

[languid belfry]

"How does anyone kill anyone there"

between the water mages/etc

[harsh oyster]

well thats simple, people that are good at pvp still obliterate every waterthorns noob that knows nothing about pvp

the few kills i did get even with water regen were Pure chance and usually after a few attempts

[shrewd ermine]

how do we do this in leagues?

[rare hollow]

its prob autocompleted for you

just check

[languid belfry]

monkey madness 2 is auto completed

so that is completed

just use the teleport

[rare hollow]

i need to buy some bananas today

[harsh oyster]

whuh

[languid belfry]

just go to karamja and pick some

[harsh oyster]

havent you done zenyte farming???

[rare hollow]

no i meant irl

[languid belfry]

oh

I can't actually eat those IRL, my medication makes it so bananas actually kill me

due to side effects

LMAO.

[harsh oyster]

absurd

[rare hollow]

weakest baba enjoyer

[harsh oyster]

id die without bananas either way so id just tank it

[rare hollow]

will eat all the bananas

[languid belfry]

literal potassium overdose

(No more oranges too unfortunately)

[rare hollow]

o iz

[languid belfry]

grapefruit though is

the super specific/weird one

that will actually hospitalize me

But real talk grapefruit tastes like shit anyway

[harsh oyster]

bottom 5 fruit

[languid belfry]

legit

if you want a bitter fruit

just go with pomengrate

[harsh oyster]

i think grapefruit TASTES fine i love grapefruit Flavoured stuff but like. the fruit itself is an awful experience

[languid belfry]

Flavor is

decent

but the actual fruit "yuck"

[rare hollow]

pomeg is nice

sour

[harsh oyster]

i havent had pomegranate but i get the feeling i would not like it solely on a textural basis

[languid belfry]

Do you like caviar?

or roe?

it's loosely the fruit version of that texture

[harsh oyster]

i dunno

caviar is giga hit or miss for me and the texture is the worst part of it

so i think id just have to try pomegranate to divine this information

[rare hollow]

eat the seeds only

dont be some weirdo and eat it like an apple

[harsh oyster]

well yeah

Surely thats not a thing people do right

[languid belfry]

....Well some people eat Kiwi with the skin on so.

Some people are real freaks.

[harsh oyster]

good source of calcium that

[rare hollow]

we just drink milk for calcium

[harsh oyster]

i love milk

[languid belfry]

Yeah for the trade off of eating an actual hairball

[harsh oyster]

milk is actually an awful source of calcium though thats propaganda by big milk and im not joking

[languid belfry]

I say, being a cartilage enjoyer that will gnaw off the ends of any drumstick/etc

[harsh oyster]

However no amount of milk propaganda will stop me from drinking milk i fucking love milk

[languid belfry]

Lactose intolerance curse be upon you

the curse of ra

[harsh oyster]

im lactose intolerant already i just tank it because i love dairy products

[languid belfry]

You have stared Ra in the face, and told him to fuck off.

Impressive.

[harsh oyster]

[languid belfry]

Alright meds kicking in, good night.

If anyone is a rare desert enjoyer and wants to send some ToA at any point, hit me up. (Or needs help with ToB learning, though I enjoy that less)

My build is done now so I'm basically chilling now at the end of leagues

[harsh oyster]

id be down for some tob, i have one kc and mostly understand the mechanics but still need more experience and more kc

we could abduct @shrewd ermine too probably

[harsh oyster]

ok doom is bullshit im just gonna run to delve 4 even if its lower chances of getting anything

i seriously cant stand the car

hitbox like a fucking plesioth hipcheck

Awful

[rare hollow]

hipcheck

if u understand car its actually the most dps for you since every attack will land during car phase

just need to see some guides on where to stand to lure him easily

[harsh oyster]

its fantastic when it doesnt hit me for 40 from halfway across the goddamn map twice in a row for no reason

i mean ive Done doom again im like 20ish deep delves in i know how it works i just think it sucks

[rare hollow]

the easiest way to tell if he's going to vroom is by checking on your character tile for that eyeball

nah its nice and free once u get more experience

[next dust]

idk this

ofc im on "crossbow" so idk lol

[harsh oyster]

??????????????????????????????????

he just hit me over 100 damage on delve 5 without the charge

[next dust]

the crossbow attack speed is SLOWER than that

[harsh oyster]

what the fuck was that bruh

In the span of like two ticks I didn't even have time to react and heal or anything

omfg

[rare hollow]

he didnt charge and u got hit a 100?

[harsh oyster]

i got 6 hitsplats at once

[rare hollow]

was this during car?

[harsh oyster]

cumulative 100

[rare hollow]

ah lel

[harsh oyster]

after car

[rare hollow]

after car in lv5?

[harsh oyster]

yes

[rare hollow]

you sure your dps isnt garbage

for leagues

did he do ground slams or something

[harsh oyster]

my average kill time for delve 5 is sub-1 minute so it must not be too awful

yes

[rare hollow]

pshhhhh lol

[harsh oyster]

but even then it never does enough damage to kill me That fast

[rare hollow]

you didnt interact with earthen orbs

after car phase he always does an earthen orb phase

most league players dont see that

thats when u need some leviathan experience

[harsh oyster]

the volatile earth shit?

[rare hollow]

prob just bad luck for u

yeh volatile earth

i just call it earth orb

[harsh oyster]

its almost definitely bad luck because again i usually just tank the ground slams anyways and its fine

[unkempt junco]

sub 1 is pretty slow for leagues still, my fastest 8+ with range is 7 seconds

[harsh oyster]

BUT i also didnt know that was a thing

i assumed they were dangerous

[rare hollow]

ok we get it bbc user

big kaboom weapon bis at doom

[harsh oyster]

im using waterthorns so i just have infinite sustain, ridiculous dps isn't my goal

at least for now

[rare hollow]

the earthen orb is there to protect you from doom's ground blasts during that phase

since u dont get rocks to hide behind like in car

[harsh oyster]

are you supposed to attack them or stand on top of them or what

[rare hollow]

so the first plant u attack is the destination tile

and the 2nd plant u attack isthe start tile

[harsh oyster]

also im gonna be so real i didnt know the eye indicated thats where he was going i was wondering wtf that was there for

[rare hollow]

now normally in deeper delves u wont neeed to worry about this earthen shit

cuz his car phase typically lasts longer if u do lure him properly

in lv5 theres just no rockblock to help

[harsh oyster]

so do you pop one volatile earth and then another and then follow the orb?

[rare hollow]

6 and below u can do carpark, double park

[rare hollow]

1 plant hit at the start for destination tile

[next dust]

anyone got advice for this (solo)?

i get them to 5, i tried darts but then i just get 0s

[rare hollow]

and when doom is getting really irritated and starts spazzing a bit click on the 2nd plant (nearest to you preferably)

and then follow the path

[harsh oyster]

i see

[rare hollow]

try to make the path between the 2 plants killed in a straight line

dont do some diagnol thing

and make it as long as possible

[harsh oyster]

im still only going to delve 4 because im impatient and gay but ill probably do deep delves in the main game eventually so its good to know mechanics regardless

[rare hollow]

if u stick to level 4 only you're delaying your drops

[harsh oyster]

im aware

[rare hollow]

majority of my drops in leagues was deeper delves

[austere depot]

I wasn't able to do it with the kcb either lol

[next dust]

im trying natures recurve

but thorns keeps killing now LOL

im using acb

[rare hollow]

now maingame is a different story where almost everybody pulls 90% of the drops sub lv8 lol

no faster weapons?

honestly just find someone and get it done dude

i told u it will be easier with duo

[jovial bone]

Scuffed = stuff

[rare hollow]

thats the game changer right there gzgz

[next dust]

i mean crossbow is affected by the perk makign themslower

even if i use SLHXB it wont work

[rare hollow]

throwing knives?

[next dust]

i could. but accuracy

i used darts, same speed, but get 0s when it matters

[rare hollow]

aint your accuracy like 200% or something

damn

[next dust]

yh but darts suck lol

and knives are lower accuracy more damage

or smthn

[rare hollow]

dmg > accuracy

let rng hold your hand

honestly what about eye of ayak

[next dust]

then randomly echos will ruin it lol

[rare hollow]

its 3t right

do u have 1t trident node

[next dust]

no

crossbow

[rare hollow]

well u have a 3t magic weapon with no

additional tech

you can control it easily

just take off your shield when its close

so when u kill 1, just swap to cbow bam blast the 2nd one in the face

[lone bloom]

wtf....

just want the weapons

[rare hollow]

rev dragon the real money dragon

[austere depot]

Aren't you just gonna splash most of the time even with confliction gauntlets and all the leagues acc boosts

[rare hollow]

confliction gauntlets are some of the most broken items in this game

[harsh oyster]

why

[austere depot]

125k magic def roll...

[lone bloom]

rolls accuracy multiple times

[rare hollow]

its literally fang but in mage gloves

[jovial bone]

Is it?

[harsh oyster]

ohhhh right

Thats fucked

[tacit oyster]

-30 mage att is enough for most things at max pacts

[rare hollow]

that doesnt sound right

[austere depot]

The thing is royal titans are kinda special

[harsh oyster]

it doesnt even require charges does it?

[rare hollow]

the bosses have 700 mage and ranged defence?

ive hit them quite often in maingame with regular bowfa and rando setups lmfao

[austere depot]

Yeah but you have +500% ranged acc when they're out of melee range