leagues-general

[spring cipher]

well....

imbued heart?

[torpid trench]

A bit shit to obtain that before making a fury

Im thinking ill get the +4 from entry tob bandages, since its guaranteed

means i only need 85 mage to make my fury

[spring cipher]

idk if it works in there

cause they have cox overload boost blocked for enchanting

[torpid trench]

Magic feels so ungodly slow to train compared to the other combat styles

eh, if i cant, then I get 1 more level and buy a wizard mind bomb somewhere

but also isnt overload like +15 levels or something crazy? That makes a bit more sense

[spring cipher]

i got 200m magic in 5 days taking transmute

[spring cipher]

yea thats why i said im not sure

[torpid trench]

Imagine taking transmute instead of butler

I did on my 2nd account, and i regretted it so much that I reloaded butler

Wait im am idiot

the magic entry node is +10 magic levels

[polar urchin]

so silly question.. so i got hot foot right? and doing tai bwo wannai trio quest which asks for raw karambwan buuuuuuut hot foot cooks caught stuff. did i screw myself?

[torpid trench]

take off the boots

oh and if you went hotfoot + eternal harvest, make sure to turn off autobank, its a long walk back

[polar urchin]

oooo okat gotcha, thought it cooked regardless

[torpid trench]

Nope

[pale mulch]

I mean I died with them on and honestly forgot. Pretty stupid regardless.

[tame flax]

or just do the diary

[pale mulch]

Oh well that calls leagues for me lol

No redoing my shadowflame lol

[simple marsh]

Isn’t there a mind bomb spawn from one of the quests?

On varla

[torpid trench]

Probably, but magic entry stone is +10 levels

Realized that after like 15minutes of scouring the wiki for boost options

[harsh oyster]

it really does not want to give me this last tentacle

[spring cipher]

done

[harsh oyster]

huge

[spring cipher]

only took me

3 days straight of steel dragons

[harsh oyster]

wtf did you even do to smith 12k that fast

[spring cipher]

tbh i did start on it way earlier

like last night i mean

i forgot to mention that

[harsh oyster]

hell

[fluid fable]

Double it

[harsh oyster]

Might have to

[fluid fable]

And then double it again

[old tapir]

gigantic

[fresh rock]

does currupted hunleff couns towards the ombat achievements?
for 50 kc?

[harsh oyster]

im kinda surprised theres no task for having a rusty sword repaired

[shrewd ermine]

hi

[harsh oyster]

[shrewd ermine]

if you mean echo hun yes, but you have to do some gauntlet for all the cas

i forgot which ones I did but i did corrupted with the impression that it would count for both

[harsh oyster]

No Way

godtier luck

that was the last one i needed

[torpid trench]

Alright fellas, we are full pivoting the build

Im 5 attempts into a fire cape and this shit is fully ass

[harsh oyster]

was that worth the 400 points? Absolutely Not

funny though

does put me much closer to addy though

[harsh oyster]

what build were you even going for

[torpid trench]

Thrown/light

I knew it would be bad, but I wasnt expecting "struggles with a firecape with 99 stats" bad

[harsh oyster]

yeaahhhh

[torpid trench]

I cna do that shit with an msb(i), but pact boosted thrown weapons are failing me

[harsh oyster]

drygore blowpipe is the only thing that might maybe redeem it

[torpid trench]

shits unreal

nah, dknives

but also, imagine going desert

so looks like im pivoting to the other meme build i wanted to try, the door

[harsh oyster]

THE DOOR

i wanted to do a bulwark build so bad but i didnt think far enough ahead

[torpid trench]

thankfully so far ive only gotten mory, which you want for the bulwark build anyway

so i guess i respec into watermage/thorns, get my easy pact points from fire cape and some other simple stuff, and then work my way into kourend

[harsh oyster]

[torpid trench]

[spring cipher]

holy

[torpid trench]

sucks need to go kandaring just to get the suffering

[harsh oyster]

go full vanilla until kourend unlock

[spring cipher]

this shit is gonna take a while

[harsh oyster]

youll get there

[spring cipher]

working my way to 99

at least

[shrewd ermine]

i did it last night. honestly was pretty chill

[torpid trench]

imean im only 78 tasks away, it probably wouldnt take super long to get into kourend, but also, i need something more than this uberass thrown setup to get into a cox team to get my dihns

[harsh oyster]

go into CoX fully naked with nothing but a bronze scim

you can tank it

[shrewd ermine]

wowie we're roughly the same rank

[torpid trench]

imagine thinking imma solo cox and not leech a team

[tame flax]

im 12k from dragon and idk if ill make it

[shrewd ermine]

i belive

[harsh oyster]

i need to uhhh

i guess my best bet for hitting rune is going to be maxing

smithing my next 99 probably

[torpid trench]

Does blindbag steup get any sustain?

Or do you wait for thorns range heals?

imean i have mory, ig i could pivot to bt nally before i go for the door

[shadow plaza]

anyone want to duo some royal titans to speed up the kc's

[shrewd ermine]

oh wait im dum

[torpid trench]

I could do this with the 13 pts i currently have

[shrewd ermine]

I assume this counts

[torpid trench]

or i could just concede that the early league is ass for every build except waterthorns and go beta meta until i get some more pacts

[harsh oyster]

unfortunately probably the least agonizing route

[shrewd ermine]

im afking inferno rn

[torpid trench]

[spring cipher]

why

[torpid trench]

I wonder how early i could do that

since i dont want to be waterthorns forever

[harsh oyster]

i still really need to do inferno thats a free 400

[shrewd ermine]

cause i can't read

[harsh oyster]

the jad keeps scaring me though

[shrewd ermine]

vibing

[spring cipher]

u can read

:3

[shrewd ermine]

somes i forget i can read and then i end up not being able to read

[torpid trench]

We have once again become watermage

[harsh oyster]

ok

giving me more now that i dont need any feels evil

[harsh oyster]

All roads lead to watermage.

[torpid trench]

ik, i hate it

[shrewd ermine]

i love being able to completely ignore mechanics because of the funny water pacts

[torpid trench]

i did for my first acc, but being unable to do most of the early/mid league without those pacts is just unfun

[tame flax]

i havent tried tob on water thorns yet

im worried i wont perform

[torpid trench]

theres a pill for that

[harsh oyster]

youll be fine

[torpid trench]

its called accuracy nodes

you actually hit pretty well except on bloat

when i was doing tob on my full waterthorns build, I actually ended up carrying a lot of kills because waterthorns carries verzik if other builds without sustain make mistakes

i clutched like 8 or 9 different runs because i sucked but she killed herself and my hp was above 100 at all times

[tame flax]

i just got really spooked off tob from the worst run i had early on

like a dude hogging the verzik staff, not speccing, dropped it at the back of the room in the middle

[smoky raft]

huge

[harsh oyster]

Huge

[torpid trench]

lmao we love troll pubs

[tame flax]

gz on the emeralds

[torpid trench]

only thing worse is the omegachad who thinks he's a professional teacher and telling you 100% wrong tech he learned from a friend

[harsh oyster]

i wonder if i can facetank awakened vard at this poi

nt

[tame flax]

the loudest most confidently wrong one

no you cant

[shrewd ermine]

i havent done hard mode yet but I did normal mode and it was a breeze. I suggest just doing entry mode and reading the wiki or watching a guide just so you're not clueless

[harsh oyster]

i mean i can pretty much afk normal vard so

[tame flax]

i know the fights well

its just getting dogwater teammates that think they're hot shit

[simple marsh]

I did a light weapons/thorns whip rush on my second account that worked out alright

[tame flax]

and getting an invite at this point with 2 kc

[harsh oyster]

its leagues

[shrewd ermine]

breeze is an over statement but it was much easier with water

[harsh oyster]

you have to just roll with it

also people have to do the raid to get kc not accepting low kc invites has always been completely baffling to me

[shrewd ermine]

i almost did tob solo with a water build. just got caught up in kind nylo mechanics

[spring cipher]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1301407443292520458.webp?size=96&animated=true

[tame flax]

i heard gg staff is the way to go in nylos

[shrewd ermine]

Some people just don't want to deal with that, and that's completely okay. as long as you're not a douche about it, I don't think there's anything inherently wrong with that. if it were me, I'd be more leineint

[shrewd ermine]

grats

[spring cipher]

its pretty reasonable in main game
leagues... ehhh yea its weird

[harsh oyster]

im not sure how anyone is expected to get kc maingame if no one is accepting no kc i dunno

[spring cipher]

i sent it with 3 other learners

how did u think people learned tob when it was new

or any new raid for that matter

[harsh oyster]

by doing it

[spring cipher]

exactly...

[tame flax]

i learned it by getting hard carried by ranged last year

[spring cipher]

so you go with other new people or people willing to teach inside clans..

and i didnt have that option

so i learned with randoms

[tame flax]

part of me wishes i took desert, coulda forced myself to learn toa finally

avoid this fucking barrows grind

[spring cipher]

theres like 3000 guides nowadays if u really want to u can band together a group and learn

i literally used this guide to learn

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSBtP5MYURQ&list=PLSPPsmv_FXzAYETV45l3wDvb-TeB_QoPK

1 min quick guide for each room and we just kept going in and dying lol

[torpid trench]

9 attempts at fight cave with thrown weapons:

Waterheals and air pray regen node while Im in the kitchen cleaning:

[shrewd ermine]

I see both sides. On one hand, it's leagues. It's not that serious. Most people in endgame can get infinite money so the only thing being wasted is time. On the other hand, some people are very busy and just don't want to deal with dipsheet mcguire that didn't even bother to read a wiki article before getting into a raid.

Personally, as someone who used to help people learn BA and has some free time on my hands, I don't mind helping out others, but I'm totally understanding of not everyone thinking that way.

[torpid trench]

my only fear right now is that i didnt bring enough catalytic runes Im down to 85 deaths and 120 bloods

[spring cipher]

to me its leagues if u cant carry people with a overpowered build and you have main game tob exp? well

skill issue

hmt on the other hand.... well... hmm

i guess u really are gated by people's knowledge lol

[shrewd ermine]

i have 0 raid kc in main game so i can't comment

[spring cipher]

or lack of

gatekeeping reg tob kc in leagues is kinda troll

that much i can agree

[shrewd ermine]

ive not done hmt, but I did normal tob just fine. died once in maiden because I wasn't paying attention to blood but otherwise just focused and it was fine

[spring cipher]

me and a friend both with over 1500+ tob kc main game couldnt get past hmt maiden with 3 blind players going in

after 20 attempts

it does take some base knowledge

[shrewd ermine]

yeah cause iirc hmt maiden is perm blood and all nylos iirc

I read the wiki and the infoblurb one of you guys left me with a few days ago. I should watch a video and maybe run some more normal tob before diving into hmt

[tame flax]

i do wanna try hmt this year

[torpid trench]

you really arent. I have like 25kc tops in reg tob only on main game, in meme trios with friends where we used 0 tech or strategy, and i was able to carry a team of pubs through a whole hm thing with just waterheal sustain

[tame flax]

maybe i can squeeze in with my ice barrage

[torpid trench]

Theres 0 excuse for gating any content in leagues, simply be a better build, or admit you need to gatekeep to feel superior

[spring cipher]

keep in mind not only that, crabs healing her buffs her dps and tanking her repeatedly ramps up maiden's damage on that one target that keeps getting repeatedly hit and if people dont swap tank aggro ur guranteed a dead player

i ate 130 damage from maiden through pray mage or something

cause team let in all the crabs

[tame flax]

i wouldnt have

shoulda brought me 💪

[torpid trench]

I solo tanked every maiden in every hmt, and we let all crabs through, just full brain off content

[spring cipher]

i was full water mage tanking and died

[torpid trench]

Skill issue ig

[spring cipher]

cause nobody would freeze the bloods

[torpid trench]

i did 10+, no freezes, we all just brain offd, i stood md and avoided pools, that was it

[spring cipher]

and people let every crab in

[torpid trench]

Same

[spring cipher]

and there was about 15 bloods

[tame flax]

oh boy, another dupe barrows piece

[spring cipher]

people straight up tanked bloods

[torpid trench]

i killed one if it was close to me because i got bored waiting for maiden to die

[shrewd ermine]

maybe they couldn't? don't you need desert for that?

[torpid trench]

but i was never at risk of dying to blood floors

[shrewd ermine]

or grim

[harsh oyster]

which slayer task numbers give boosted points again? 10, 25 and 50?

[spring cipher]

u cant deal damage to bloods in hmt

[tame flax]

40 barrows pieces total, not one full set

[spring cipher]

what

the tomatoes are immortal

and so are the blood trails

[torpid trench]

then im likely remembering a kill on nmt, but we did around 12 hmts as well

[spring cipher]

flask also doesnt kill spawns either

i tried

[shrewd ermine]

https://tenor.com/view/fraudmortal-invincible-omni-man-immortal-immortal-invincible-gif-13794220886197271388

[torpid trench]

its been 2 weeks since i did this, and ive been working on 2 diff accounts in that time

But my waterthorns just facetanked the entire thing brain off on hmt

[spring cipher]

trust me i tried to flask the tomatoes

it does not do damage to them

the only way is to not step in blood and freeze it

[tame flax]

does it kill the spiders you freeze tho

[spring cipher]

yes

[torpid trench]

and I have only surface level tob knowledge gained from a 10min youtube video teaching you to use karils armor

[spring cipher]

of course

[shrewd ermine]

wowie

[torpid trench]

just bare bones basic mechanical stuff like "hit maiden, pray magic, etc"

pray range at bloat, dont get line of sighted, etc

[tame flax]

idk how slayer has been one of my highest xp skills this year i dont have that relic

[harsh oyster]

same

im well past 99 slayer now despite not taking the relic and hating slayer

[spring cipher]

xD

[torpid trench]

tl:dr, there is no reason at all to ever gatekeep any raid in leagues

[spring cipher]

i cant take tank aggro

[torpid trench]

Like just no reason

[spring cipher]

if the front is all ragged

[torpid trench]

I said what i said

[tame flax]

just use a 7 tile hally

smh

[torpid trench]

The only reason to "gatekeep" a raid in league is for some sense of self worth, being "the person" who is capable of doing it

[shrewd ermine]

so what do people typically do in hmt? iirc you need desert or grim for ice so if nobody can freeze the crabs do you just face tank it or do you use lithic?

[torpid trench]

you can use snare, you can lithic, theres options

[spring cipher]

tbh the replacement to that is have 3 flaskers on the team

[torpid trench]

or you can just ignore it

[spring cipher]

snare doesnt catch 3s and 4s that easily

[harsh oyster]

visage incoming

[spring cipher]

cause its single target

[tame flax]

i was dumb enough to take grimoire

[torpid trench]

If a few get through, its irrelevant

hell all getting through is irrelevant

[shrewd ermine]

does lithic actually kill them or draw aggro?

[torpid trench]

but if you want to, theres options, no matter how bad your setup

[spring cipher]

hmt crabs going in ramps up her attack speed and damage by a shit ton

[tame flax]

you wanna borrow one of mine?

[spring cipher]

its likely u mostly did regs

tbf

esp if u killed the tomato

[torpid trench]

See my entire bit above

No, I didnt just do regs and not know, we intentionally did hmt for all purps

[tame flax]

i wish i got purps

[torpid trench]

You just arent willing to concede the point, and so now youre drawing assumptions that undermine me to support yourself

[spring cipher]

because ur spreading misinformation

[torpid trench]

Im not

[spring cipher]

the sentiment is right

[torpid trench]

I didnt say it was a good idea

[spring cipher]

i agree with the sentiment

[torpid trench]

i didnt say it was the right idea

[spring cipher]

however some stuff are wrong

[torpid trench]

I said it can be done, and i say so because ive done it

[shrewd ermine]

so lithic is a no-go?

cause iirc the crabs dont actually focus you

they just run towards her

[spring cipher]

lithic actually works i think? tho idk i havent seen people do it

[torpid trench]

Im stating a fact. Im stating that I did it, not that i think it can, or that i feel it should

[harsh oyster]

dragon milk?¿

[torpid trench]

idk and idc whats good or best, its leagues, its for memes

[spring cipher]

tbh if u can have 3 flaskers its enough that it wont buff maiden enough
1 flasker per crab phase does the job

[shrewd ermine]

im a stinky little minion water thorn mager

[spring cipher]

well if u have flaskers on the team

ur fine

[torpid trench]

Then youre fine, heal through it and giggle at the tryhards

[spring cipher]

u can try to straight up tank it and see if that works

but i havent found any success with it lol

[shrewd ermine]

yeah i just dont know how easy it is to get into raid lobbies without axe, grim, or flask

[torpid trench]

I did it in barrows armor, i think i had 3pc torag, but it might have been before i finished the set, so might have been in 2pc + dh body. My barrows log was awful on that acc

Obby shield, kandarin staff, the quadrant or whatever

[spring cipher]

granted it was 0 kcers in leagues and main game so it was a toss up and this was like 2 weeks into leagues

so people likely didnt have strong gear to bruteforce it yet as well

cause dps was kinda low

esp when we healed maiden to full hp 3 times

[torpid trench]

and i was fully invested in water thorns. Like the whole thorns tree, 188 max hp, heal on 0 hits, the whole water tree, air runes regen prayer, etc

[spring cipher]

and i was tanking 90 damage+ through prayer

[minor summit]

Any pest control worlds?

[spring cipher]

maybe the real tech was to have a thorns player cause there wasnt many at the time

[torpid trench]

sounds like you had an amateur team (obviously) and you got bad luck on hits and decided it just didnt work at all

[spring cipher]

we had like 3 rangers

and a blind bag

+air/water mage (me)

[torpid trench]

the thorns DEFINITELY did way more damage than my water spells. the spells i was just casting to sustain

and being full tank helped a ton with survival

[spring cipher]

that might be it then

[torpid trench]

So, tl:dr, you assumed it wasnt viable without trying it, and argued with me for 20minutes, even going so far as to say i was openly spreading misinformation, while I was just saying "I did this and it worked idc try it out"

A pleasure chatting with you today

[minor summit]

fuck yeah, passive aggressiveness

[spring cipher]

yea cause after 20 attempts in themass world

i figured it wasnt gonna work out

[torpid trench]

20 attempts with the waterthorns build i said i used, or 20 attempts as an air/water mage as you said above?

[spring cipher]

i just ended up waiting for the rest of my raids team to get on

[shrewd ermine]

i know this contributes nothing to the convo but...

https://tenor.com/view/scuba-dance-scuba-cat-scuba-scuba-meme-gif-10439798204893537246

[torpid trench]

Kitten gifs always contribute, wdym?

[minor summit]

That. Is. Everything.

[shrewd ermine]

[torpid trench]

^

[harsh oyster]

you GOTTA stop posting ai

[spring cipher]

at that point i havent specced into thorns yet

[shrewd ermine]

it's NOT ai

[spring cipher]

i was still grinding out all my pacts

[torpid trench]

Right, so again, you spent all that time telling me I didnt experience what i did, and that i was openly spreading misinformation, but only because you used a different build and decided that somehow that meant I was lying to people

[shrewd ermine]

it might be ai lwk

[spring cipher]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1301407443292520458.webp?size=96&animated=true

[harsh oyster]

https://tenor.com/view/leon-chokes-choking-ada-wong-gif-26380793

[torpid trench]

On that note, Im out

[shrewd ermine]

https://tenor.com/view/explosion-cat-gif-5858640239144030160

[spring cipher]

so i guess thorns is that strong

i guess u can just go in there

[harsh oyster]

is there any faster way to chisel bones for bone shards or is it just going to take me 600 years

[tame flax]

yeah you get a fletching chisel from the chiseling minigame

[shrewd ermine]

i forgot which part of pray training i did this in but if you spam the chisel and bones it does it quickly

similar to cooking karams

[harsh oyster]

oh duh

right

[tame flax]

just train prayer with shades of morton

[shrewd ermine]

[harsh oyster]

no

wait that works on gems too doesnt it

https://tenor.com/view/cat-side-eye-head-turn-thing-idk-gif-16553853065807910158

i dont know how many hours i spent this league just waiting for gems to chisel

[shrewd ermine]

-# not ai btw

[spring cipher]

also just to defend my point i do think this does classify

[shrewd ermine]

-# ok ill stop now

[tame flax]

i have finally gotten my first set

[harsh oyster]

huge

[shrewd ermine]

shades and barrows were push factors for me picking mory

[celest rock]

any for BAs?

[shrewd ermine]

basically only picked it cause of tob. for points I would've probably picked Zeah

[tame flax]

theyre going to be push factors to keep me from ever picking this godforsaken region again

barrows is cancerous

moons if everything about it was shit

[shrewd ermine]

even worse i didnt have evil eye either

[harsh oyster]

barrows ez

[shrewd ermine]

nu uh!

[harsh oyster]

which relic is it that spawns the black and red orb in front of peoples faces

is that transmute

[shrewd ermine]

i love my orb

[spring cipher]

yes

[harsh oyster]

i Really shouldve gone transmute

[shrewd ermine]

transmute really helps a ton. clues and butler are good too though

[harsh oyster]

clues is fantastic i dont regret picking it BUT

[covert night]

whats the best place to 50m fishing exp for priff, morty, kourend? i have hot foot

[harsh oyster]

transmute wouldve made my life easier

[tame flax]

🥳

[shrewd ermine]

idk what's in kourend but i'd just fish karambwans. super afk so you just do it while ur at work

[tame flax]

do you have endless

[covert night]

no endless

[tame flax]

oof

[shrewd ermine]

oof

jinx

[tame flax]

hot foot does nothing for fishing xp

[covert night]

i get a big sack though

[shrewd ermine]

[covert night]

full of regret

[shrewd ermine]

ayo?

[tame flax]

its a tumor

[covert night]

no i got them checked out

they said they were normal

[shrewd ermine]

rip 😔

[covert night]

just big

[tame flax]

all three of them

[harsh oyster]

hotfoot does nothing for fishing but it DOES give you free cooking xp while fishing

which is huge

[covert night]

but on a serious note? any suggestions?

[tame flax]

id assume fly fishing

[harsh oyster]

do you have barbarian

[covert night]

ya

[harsh oyster]

then pretty much anything

[tame flax]

the fishing spot outside priff doesnt ever move

[covert night]

should i fish angler?

to cook them?

with hot

[harsh oyster]

yea

good xp both ways

[tame flax]

im pretty sure fly fishing beats everything else

just because you get so many more

[shrewd ermine]

i thought the "meta" was to tick manip barb fishing

[tame flax]

id rather kms than tick manip in leagues

[toxic vortex]

I mean

If you want to be a sweaty spreadsheet nerd

Then yeah go for it

[harsh oyster]

id rather kms than tick manip period that shit drives me crazy

[shrewd ermine]

that was supposed to be a link

[tame flax]

factoring in moving fishing spots too if you're barb

[harsh oyster]

ok thats not ENTIRELY true i 1-tick karambwans on main because its free

[tame flax]

another plus for the priff spot

[shrewd ermine]

is fishing in prif better than karambs?

cause that's what i've been doing

(i do have EH)

[slim crag]

What's the point cap for a purple in CoX?

[tame flax]

oh thats neat, i hit 1 billion xp

[harsh oyster]

im gonna run out of wine before i run out of shards for once wtf

[spring cipher]

one more down

[tame flax]

fly fishing is more xp

and buying feathers is easier than bwanjis

[harsh oyster]

unless youre barbarian

since you get like 30 per success

[tame flax]

you know you can buy them right

[shrewd ermine]

[harsh oyster]

dont car

[shrewd ermine]

yeah ive been kind of lazy on my fishing training

at least its not farming

[harsh oyster]

im trying to decide what i want to do next

99 smithing is going to be free but vvveerrryyyyy slow

[covert night]

whats everyone at

?

[zinc olive]

me when i hit d5 doom

[shrewd ermine]

https://tenor.com/view/doin-ya-mom-gex-snoppis-nahgu-l-gif-18365178

[shrewd ermine]

i had to

[harsh oyster]

https://tenor.com/view/glorp-glorpshit-mad-gif-12826934952903770254

[zinc olive]

200m rc

[harsh oyster]

i should probably focus on my lower skills but i really, really, really do not want to train hunter, runecraft or farming

[celest rock]

1 more for BA, w666

[shrewd ermine]

what r ur pacts?

[harsh oyster]

pacts or relics

[tame flax]

37.2431° N, 115.7930° W

[shrewd ermine]

ive got some suggestions based on what ive got to do next

[shrewd ermine]

relics oops

[covert night]

im 3 skills off max cape

[harsh oyster]

EH, Barbarian, Evil Eye, Clues, Larcenist, Eternal Sustenance and Minion

i took

approximately ZERO

useful skilling relics

[tame flax]

runecraft is easy

i get 380m xp/hr at ourania

[shrewd ermine]

there's 400 points behind catching chins for you

[harsh oyster]

yeah with your goddamn soul shards

[tame flax]

just built different

[harsh oyster]

theres way more than 400

i think

wait no master is the one that gives 400

[shrewd ermine]

true but i cant count past 400

[covert night]

anyone going for dragon?

[shrewd ermine]

joking aside just basing it off of my current tasks. you dont have T though

[harsh oyster]

my main goal is rune

[covert night]

im at rune rn

[tame flax]

im procrastinating doing the rest of my skills

[harsh oyster]

if i can hit rune ill be happy but ill still go for dragon after that if theres time

[tame flax]

farming is done im just too lazy to harvest my tree run

[shrewd ermine]

76 prayer is kinda wild

[harsh oyster]

see

[tame flax]

oh im sorry let me hit my flask

[harsh oyster]

catching chins is 400 right

[tame flax]

if it bothers you

[harsh oyster]

but then you can use regen to regenerate 500 chins

and thats another Many points

[shrewd ermine]

me and my minion will watch

[covert night]

ill be happy with dragon and max cape

prob not gonna do another leagues for like 6 years

[shrewd ermine]

uhh I assume you have to actually catch the chins

[harsh oyster]

nop

[tame flax]

theres 3 tasks for actually catching chins in wildy and kandarin

500 chins is global too

[harsh oyster]

you can just regen them, unequip and reequip and you get the points

[shrewd ermine]

ah interesting

[tame flax]

catching is a task

equipping is other tasks

[toxic vortex]

Tirannwn too

[harsh oyster]

i think maybe ill go for base level 90 instead of maxing rn

[tame flax]

im looking at my 92 herblore and thinking jesus christ im not even halfway there and considering not maxxing either

[shrewd ermine]

is this difficult? completion rate is abysmally low on the wiki

[harsh oyster]

herblore easy solve just mastering mixology for like 12 hours

[shrewd ermine]

idk if i wanna do all that

[tame flax]

just afk it

[shrewd ermine]

can you?

[tame flax]

car wash baby

[harsh oyster]

car wash sucks ass and does nothing but get me killed every time

idk how people are getting good results out of it

hooray

[tame flax]

are you standing in the right spot

[toxic vortex]

By not sucking

[tame flax]

are you tagging the worms to heal up

[harsh oyster]

yes and yes

he drops rocks on my head and i get dislodged and hit by 50 different things at once

ive done like 20 deep delves and the ONLY times ive died were trying to car wash

[tame flax]

he cant drop rocks on that square

[harsh oyster]

he does

[toxic vortex]

Are you starting the fight standing in melee distance?

[harsh oyster]

yes

i do that regardless to proc shield and trigger thorns

[toxic vortex]

And you wait until he does the first laser charge?

[harsh oyster]

yes

[toxic vortex]

Idk man

[shrewd ermine]

i havent done doom since I got my infernal cape and i had less pacts but I remember doom being a pain in the ass

I cleared it but certainly not afk

[harsh oyster]

dooms ez just tedious

i need my avernics but i just Don't want to do it more

[shrewd ermine]

i think my big worries are coloseum perfection (i just dont know how to rotate once im backed to a wall) and just learning hmt

everything else i just wont do or just need to hunker down and get over with

ive got a bunch of skilling content ive yet to do and with my farming lv being so low im not getting my max/95 skill task either, not to mention ive been completely putting off hard tasks

[harsh oyster]

ranged next

i should probably max my combat skills entirely but prayer is soooooooooooooooooo slow

[spring cipher]

ye

[tame flax]

thank god for wildy altar

[spring cipher]

if no soul and wildy

[shrewd ermine]

tiran is also free prayer believe it or not

[harsh oyster]

doom and libation bowl are my best bet

[shrewd ermine]

farm zulrah -> get a crap ton of dbones -> convert to blessed shards

[tame flax]

praying irl to leave cg doesnt level the skill

[shrewd ermine]

and transmute

dont have 50m prayer yet but my RC is 50M so any soul shard stuff just goes straight to prayer

plus I still have some superior bones from my zulrah grind

[harsh oyster]

runecraft is going to be the one that kills me

literally every other skill im fine with but rc so FUCKING slow and tedious even with ourania

[shrewd ermine]

yeah, eternal sus is nice but soul harvest gets a lot of tasks done

[tame flax]

if you intended to max soul harvest was a req

default rc makes herblore look like a fun skill

[harsh oyster]

ive come out the other side of worse grinds alive

i can tank it

[tame flax]

christ last year i had bankers note and blood altar and it still chugged eggs

[harsh oyster]

i still need armadyl chainskirt so i guess im going back to kree for my ranged levels

straight tweaking with these droprates

[tame flax]

i need a lot of bones still

i dont think i wanna use my bone shards on prayer

not bone shards, the other purple shards

[harsh oyster]

its really funny just being able to fully afk kree now i had to actually pay attention to some degree before

might gem crab ranged to 99 because im lazy and kree actually has ranged defense though

[spring cipher]

alright

vale totem

is kinda chill

[harsh oyster]

its free

[rocky harbor]

this is crazy. 4 blue moon and 4 composts. is that normal?

[molten gust]

I still remember during trail blazer reloaded going over 800kc at kree just to get a chestplate.

[harsh oyster]

ive been quite lucky with my gwd drops

[covert night]

ancestral or crystal with blessing for mage?

[harsh oyster]

i should probably try solo nex but i have no idea how easy that is

[tame flax]

totems is a nice minigame

comparing it to the other varlamore skilling minigame and its a laughable comparison

[spring cipher]

yea honestly its a nice ironman content

too bad i dont like ironman mode

[harsh oyster]

i guess i can just send it on nex and see what happens

[molten gust]

Even with blessing crystal armor isn’t really good for magic. Since base it has -40 magic attack. Its only really nice since it would give some defense compared to normal magic gear. Ancestral would probably be better dps wise.

[harsh oyster]

at worst i evil eye back to the chest

and get my shit back

[harsh oyster]

this is incorrect solely in the context of waterthorns

high defense is good for thorns

so crystal is good for waterthorns

[old tapir]

tomorrow is bossing cleanup day

gotta get to 300 hydras and sires

but first

[shrewd ermine]

i forgot to turn on prayer

[covert night]

how many days left for leagues?

[shrewd ermine]

little less than a month iirc

[old tapir]

25

[spring cipher]

we have the opposite problem i have those done but i barely skilled

[molten gust]

Thats why I said it would be good in defense compared to normal magic gear? Nothing really incorrect with that when it comes to thorns?

They just said mage so we giving general info.

[old tapir]

lot of points just sitting here too

but clueing without the relic sounds like the worst time

[harsh oyster]

how do you counter nex's darkness

or whatever

[old tapir]

run

[harsh oyster]

thats it?

[old tapir]

yep

[molten gust]

The farther away you are, the less damage it does.

[zinc olive]

yea it damages you by being close to her

[cyan cobalt]

Hey are there any downsides to multiple people fighting venanatis at the same time?

[zinc olive]

loot gets split

so you get less drops

[cyan cobalt]

I thought that started after 10 people

[zinc olive]

pretty sure it always happens

[cyan cobalt]

Fuck sake

So stupid lmao

[harsh oyster]

that was free this entire time

i mean it was a 9 minute fight but

[zinc olive]

yes it's super easy with any sort of sustain lol

[harsh oyster]

free still

[cyan cobalt]

I had to hop over 15 worlds to find an empty one lol

[harsh oyster]

ouuuhhh 2 more pacts and my build will be complete

[spring cipher]

what do u have left

for the 2 points

[harsh oyster]

as in what im speccing into or what tasks

[spring cipher]

for the full 40

i mean

[harsh oyster]

that does not answer the question

[spring cipher]

ur 2 pacts away from the max amount

[harsh oyster]

yea

[spring cipher]

what tasks do u have left for pact points

[harsh oyster]

okay so tasks

A Bunch of Bullshit I Don't Wanna Do

it will be avernic treads and infernal cape because theyre free im just lazy

[spring cipher]

bellator ring would take a while

tob 25 even tho its fine also takes a while

treads is really just rng

[harsh oyster]

ToB sucks, cant do awakened vardorvis, bellator ring im not doing because i fucking hate whisperer, and special challenge isnt happening

avernic is easy and so is infernal

again im just Lazy

[spring cipher]

special challenge doable if u have lithic sceptre and thorns i think

[harsh oyster]

still not doing it

theres pretty much no reason for me to do anything but those two because they are free and easy

[shrewd ermine]

[harsh oyster]

https://tenor.com/view/joker-jared-leto-suicide-squad-3d-fly-in-screaming-gif-20309482

next task/s are chinchompa equip

just gonna go stand in the juvenile custodian stalker multicombat area and let autoretaliate work its magic

[rocky harbor]

i wanted to do non combat stuff today so i did mage training and got infinity, book and wand. Even w/multiplier that place is yuck grind.

[spring cipher]

57k now

we're getting a lil closer

[rocky harbor]

what is the number?

[harsh oyster]

yay

i hit addy after i imploded nex earlier

[rocky harbor]

ooo thats amazing. you are 30k points ahead of me 😄

[harsh oyster]

are teaks fastest xp/hr?

[spring cipher]

for afk?

[harsh oyster]

im assuming redwoods are still a shitshow

[spring cipher]

yea

[harsh oyster]

yea

[spring cipher]

i mean redwoods arent that bad

just not the fastest

[harsh oyster]

oh wait redwoods are zeah anyways

[spring cipher]

yep

[rocky harbor]

What are some of the present and previous cool league items? ngl i like the horns that can go on slayer helm

[harsh oyster]

or farming ig

wait no farming guild is also zeah wtf

teaks it is

[spring cipher]

well echo items only came from last leagues

[slim glen]

hi there, any running some toa on leagues?

[harsh oyster]

horns?

[harsh oyster]

i think they meant rewards

like, maingame rewards

[rocky harbor]

twisted horns

[harsh oyster]

oh this one

yeah this fucks

[spring cipher]

oh

i like the death animation from leagues 4

[harsh oyster]

this leagues slayer helm cosmetic is cool too, obv intended to pair with oathplate

[rocky harbor]

i dont like to die so i would like one that is a bit more cheerful i think 😄

[spring cipher]

my fav death animation

https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/images/Death_(Trailblazer_Reloaded_League).gif?1ab8d

[harsh oyster]

oh yeah thats good

[spring cipher]

https://tenor.com/view/no-im-dead-dying-fading-away-gif-14391476816569280373

[rocky harbor]

lol that is great one

[harsh oyster]

Really funny

[spring cipher]

reminds me of that gif

[harsh oyster]

my personal favourite is the shattered relic hunter sets and the home tele anim from this league

i was rocking the t1 shattered relic hunter hood in maingame for EONS because i love how it looks

[gilded totem]

T8 star W709 West of Burgh de Rot, fresh

[rocky harbor]

the shattered void is nice ig.

but i rarely use void

[spring cipher]

this was nice for your poh too

[rocky harbor]

i was just looking at that. its very nice

[harsh oyster]

shattered mystic also looks really good aside from that goofy ass hat

[rocky harbor]

lol

[spring cipher]

"The voices! the voices!" https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/images/Death_(Raging_Echoes_League).gif?0686a

[harsh oyster]

i think in general trailblazer reloaded has a lot of very good rewards even if the outfit sucks

[rocky harbor]

oof the trailblazer stuff looks pretty weak compared to the others

[spring cipher]

i think the weakest one is

the first trailblazer

leagues 2

[harsh oyster]

yea

[rocky harbor]

a recolor for graceful? ouch.

[harsh oyster]

i like the trailblazer 1 tool orn kit but it doesnt work on felling axes so it doesnt matter to me

[harsh oyster]

i think the most insulting part is that its Just A Recolor

[spring cipher]

shitty brown

XD

like who thought that was a nice colour for graceful

[harsh oyster]

theres another graceful kit from one of the later leagues thats a full remodel

it looks good

[rocky harbor]

shattered tele is nice

the tele from demonics is great tho. the dancing 😄

[harsh oyster]

wait no theres not i was thinking of the quest speedrunning fit

also the demonic pacts home tele MIGHT be one of the best rewards period

its Good

[spring cipher]

this is my fav home tele animation

https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/images/Home_Teleport_(Deadman_Armageddon).gif?195d8

but its dmm

not leagues

[harsh oyster]

the afk wc fit

[rocky harbor]

oh hes kissing his biceps im like "why he sniffin his pits?"

what axe is that?

[spring cipher]

dharoks?

[harsh oyster]

yea

i have barbarian so i dont need an axe so its just there for aesthetics

[rocky harbor]

what would be the point of having the league clothing sets?

[harsh oyster]

fashionscape

they offer zero stats and theres no transmog

For whatever goddamn fucking reason. GOD I Want Transmog

[rocky harbor]

and if i dont spend all my points do they carry over to next leagues?

[harsh oyster]

yea

im pretty sure at least

[rocky harbor]

ive purchased the echoes Ahrims kit before... pink/purple so much nicer than the poopy browny-green.

[harsh oyster]

agree

[rocky harbor]

oh and the shattered abyssal recolor ive got that one.

[scenic garden]

can we buy bank slots from bankers in main game or is that just a leagues thing?

[harsh oyster]

the brown/green makes sense for most of the barrows stuff when you realize its probably oxidized metals but it makes zero sense for ahrims

[harsh oyster]

believe so

[spring cipher]

it is

but max bank i think is a total cost of something like a billion something

so usually you'd only buy the first few cheaper ones

[harsh oyster]

880mil

for the total increase

[scenic garden]

yea max bank wouldn't be achievable for me lol, but a few boosters might be worth it

[spring cipher]

ah there it is

tho

usually u dont really need more than what the base game gives tbh

[scenic garden]

I'm a hoarder

[harsh oyster]

skilling pets carry over in leagues right?

[scenic garden]

tho even just the herb/farming tab can take alot of space

[shrewd ermine]

so flippin tuff

[harsh oyster]

not just boss pets?

[scenic garden]

ye afaik

[spring cipher]

all pets do

[rocky harbor]

i started to actually use the PoH storage. doing clue scrolls gathering all the junk it takes up a lot of space. oh and the seed bank in farming guild is great.

[harsh oyster]

i want the fox.

[rocky harbor]

seed bank, potion storage. I think i would have went insane w/out the potion storage. It decants to whatever amount u want.

[shrewd ermine]

[spring cipher]

beaver pet+ forestry item

[harsh oyster]

i mean

[spring cipher]

pet chance?

[harsh oyster]

i know how to get it

[shrewd ermine]

0

[harsh oyster]

wc was my main and only skill in main for like years lol

[scenic garden]

seed bank seems inconvenient. needing to tele to farm guild every time I want to do a farm run.

[rocky harbor]

what is this? is that like a fat stack of infernal capes?

[harsh oyster]

yes

[spring cipher]

even after handing it all in?

[shrewd ermine]

yeah

[shrewd ermine]

oh i didnt know we had to hand them in

[rocky harbor]

woah that is a lot.

[spring cipher]

finishing it= pet roll

handing it in= another pet roll

[shrewd ermine]

[spring cipher]

so u can try again

hand it to the npc before u enter

[rocky harbor]

i farm at the guild if i need something or i might do one other herb patch.

[spring cipher]

see if u get lucky

[harsh oyster]

this also applies to fight caves/jad right?

[spring cipher]

yes

[harsh oyster]

with the fire cape

[spring cipher]

1/50

yep

[shrewd ermine]

erm

no pet

also

[harsh oyster]

You fool

[spring cipher]

[shrewd ermine]

guess im going to do 1 more

[spring cipher]

susbugcat

[shrewd ermine]

[rocky harbor]

I really wanted blue moon stuff but i dunno if its worth the bother. i cant believe the garbagy stuff ive got. lots of compost, some harralander , maple seed, clay and some darts.

[harsh oyster]

its worth it

youre going to get garbage, thats the nature of rng

but the armor is fairly common and has dupe prevention so

[rocky harbor]

but just because im doing blue moon doesnt mean its going to give me blue moon stuff? or does it?

[harsh oyster]

not necessarily, no

but blue is the easiest

[shrewd ermine]

i didnt go for blue moon ngl

not until later on

[spring cipher]

why do u want blue moon?

[rocky harbor]

I would like to be able to get to 100 bonus for mage because its come up for master clues.

[harsh oyster]

someone didnt take conniving

[rocky harbor]

i dont have to have blue moon but im kinda mage pacting so it would be nice to have. any of them would be fine to have.

[shrewd ermine]

btw found a crashed star

[rocky harbor]

no way i would pass up transmute to make scrolls easier. transmute has made everything much much easier.

[shrewd ermine]

only t6 but I think it's still a task. world 642 corsair cove

[harsh oyster]

counterpoint: clues fun

[rocky harbor]

oh i love love doing clues. i have the mushroom and it saves a lot of time because of all the diff places it can go.

[smoky raft]

well

that's that done

now I just need to get the damn sword

[rocky harbor]

i just cant do more than like 15 or 20 at a time because it makes me motion sick be-bopping around the map.

[languid belfry]

Welp. I'm done ToB

[rocky harbor]

i dont know what those things are but gg's

[languid belfry]

40/40 pact points finally too

[smoky raft]

means I did a 500 invocation ToA without any deaths

they're all ornament kits for various items

[rocky harbor]

nice!

ive never done ToA.

[smoky raft]

there's a 400 point task (and a pact point) locked behind using one of them

[languid belfry]

ToA is very fun

[smoky raft]

it's easily my favorite raid

[languid belfry]

same

[rocky harbor]

I will try b4 league ends. Its kinda the reason i wanted to do leagues.

[languid belfry]

I think I'm warming up to ToB but

I like ToA more

ToB uh, you can really get griefed by someone not knowing mechanics

Better than CoX though

fuck CoX

[rocky harbor]

I picked kourend and desert so i could try CoX and ToA.
yet i wont set foot inside the colloseum 😄

[languid belfry]

Well

CoX isn't...hard per say?

But it's very obtuse

There are a lot of mechanics you're basically forced to look up ahead of time

otherwise they make 0 sense

[harsh oyster]

ouuuhhhh im so tempted to return to maingame and just start the toa grind

i really wanna do toa

[rocky harbor]

I think the main reason im hesitant is i dont want to be a burdensome bumbling noob for other people in raid.

[smoky raft]

it's very simple just do this

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/408188250264436737/829829052830580766/acidwalk.gif?width=440&height=265

[harsh oyster]

incredible

[rocky harbor]

oh ive seen that watchings a streamer doing CoX hes yelling "STOP RUNNING AROUND SPREADING IT"

[spring cipher]

its a burn mechanic

unless u mean the acid trail

[untold rivet]

anyone around who'd be able to help me out with fight pit champion? :3

[smoky raft]

cox masses are very fun

[rocky harbor]

whatever it is, the stuff that people will spread around if they run.

[spring cipher]

burns

basically it can go back and forth forever

[languid belfry]

Honestly you just assume it happens

[spring cipher]

ur guarenteed to eat like 60 damage and drain stats

[languid belfry]

and move on, at least in leagues

[spring cipher]

or guraenteed to take a certain amount of damage

its really annoying

[languid belfry]

hp tax

but I feel like CoX has a lot of those to begin with

@Almost guaranteed damage you basically just have to suck up

[rocky harbor]

which one is easier? toa or cox?

[languid belfry]

ToA

by far.

As long as you know how to do Akka special and wardens dance

it's pretty much free

[harsh oyster]

toa is basically an introductory raid as best as i know

[languid belfry]

The mechanic I hate the most in ToA ironically is...Zebak Jars

I hate those things so much

[harsh oyster]

current difficulty is toa < cox < tob and apparently archives will be harder than tob

[languid belfry]

to the point I'll do Zebak first each time just so I can reset

[harsh oyster]

Apparently. i dont really buy that though

[languid belfry]

if Zebak sucks

[rocky harbor]

what is archives?

[languid belfry]

and just drops jars a million miles away

[harsh oyster]

The Fractured Archives

raid 4, releasing this year

[languid belfry]

which region is it in

[harsh oyster]

misthalin

[languid belfry]

huh

neat

[harsh oyster]

i mean ASSUMEDLY misthalin anyways, its set in the guthixian archives after While Guthix Sleeps

[smoky raft]

it's in that big fuckin pit near tears

[rocky harbor]

I know theres mixed feels about sailing but i kinda feel like they could make a cool raid like atlantis or some such.

[harsh oyster]

i love sailing

[languid belfry]

Oh. That's what they're doing with the guthix rift event from RS3 lmao

That makes sense

[rocky harbor]

i really enjoy it to. Its a bit fiddle-y but i think they worked some of that out.

[harsh oyster]

thankfully While Guthix Sleeps doesn't require me to do Heroes' Quest so i have once again dodged Heroes' Quest

[spring cipher]

https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/The_Fractured_Archive

[harsh oyster]

ive been avoiding heroes quest for years now cause i dont have anyone to do it with

[spring cipher]

tbh they did say its harder than tob but however

hmm

they kinda lied alot recently lol

[harsh oyster]

they do that all the time

and always have

[languid belfry]

https://runescape.wiki/w/Guthixian_Cache

[harsh oyster]

Hence why I don't buy it

[languid belfry]

It's this location in RS3.

I.E the pit where Guthix was/died.

[spring cipher]

i do buy that its harder than toa tho

[languid belfry]

lol

[spring cipher]

at the very least

[harsh oyster]

i suspect it WILL be hard, i just dont think itll be harder than ToB or even as hard

[languid belfry]

That's a lot cooler tbh than what they did with it in RS3

where it's just an awful skilling minigame

[old tapir]

stab armor
3a bow replacement
giant fucking crush megarare

[spring cipher]

theres a whole cc dedicated to it

[harsh oyster]

everything in osrs is cooler than anything they ever did in rs3

[languid belfry]

Like you have a

[rocky harbor]

oo the bosses look very cool

[harsh oyster]

except dungeoneering. jagex pls port dungeoneering im begging

[languid belfry]

an ancient archive to the most powerful god (ignore the elder gods) in the setting

that has ever been on Glienor

do you: Make a cool dungeon/raid?

Or do you make a really obnoxious time gated minigame for a skill that is awful to train outside of that minigame

[spring cipher]

well tfa will have a perma wipe mechanic like tob until a team clears the raid for the first time

is what they mentioned

and then after that it works kinda like cox

where deaths= worse rates

[harsh oyster]

im not sure what "perma wipe" is

[languid belfry]

so thematically at least, I like what OSRS is doing with their lore space/world building./

[spring cipher]

sorry i meant like

[harsh oyster]

Also someones clearing that shit within like 3 hours of release

[spring cipher]

if everyone dies the raids reset

[languid belfry]

yeah

[rocky harbor]

Do they always limit the areas for leagues?

[languid belfry]

I mean, I'll look forward to all you people solving it so I can play it in Leagues 7

[harsh oyster]

this is the first time a region has been entirely unavailable afaik

[languid belfry]

I have to go fight a clown.

in FFXIV

[spring cipher]

so the death style will be like tob
die = you end up in a cage waiting
if teammates also die= redo the raid

[harsh oyster]

[languid belfry]

I kind of like it

[harsh oyster]

im gonna run TFA for sure because i fw guthix but i probably wont get super into it until leagues 7

[rocky harbor]

If you die in ToA you respwan to join again?

[spring cipher]

tob is the only raid that does this unless u enable death invocations in toa

[languid belfry]

ToA you respawn as long as you don't turn on 1 death modifier

Which is kind of wild

[spring cipher]

no u turn into a ghost till ur entire team dies
and then u restart the room again
if you turn on death invocations once u run out of lives u reset out the raid

[languid belfry]

because every other MMO kind of does wipe = reset

[spring cipher]

you do lose alot of points if u keep dying tho

[harsh oyster]

ouhhh melatonins hitting

goodnight folks

[languid belfry]

......Hmm

what do I use my 2nd megarare voucher on

Twisted Bow or Shadow

[harsh oyster]

boqw

bow

[languid belfry]

...yeah shadow is kind of bad huh..

[smoky raft]

I click the obelisk

[rocky harbor]

I wish there was a way to go into a raid and be a fly on wall just to watch. I know i can watch vids but its diff than when you are in it.

[smoky raft]

there ism for tob specifically

[languid belfry]

Leagues.

people can solo carry pretty easily

and all day today at ToB people were running learner parties

just dip your toes in now

[spring cipher]

yea but to actually learn, watching isnt enough

so end of the day u have to get hands on experience

[rocky harbor]

true true

[shrewd ermine]

i was in a learning tob lobby then I threw a teleport crystal in the ground instead of deploy my minion

[smoky raft]

if you know the rsn of someoen actively running ToB you can just straight up spectate

[shrewd ermine]

worst of all, it wasn't a sepulcre crystal

[rocky harbor]

i think i have trauma from the first time i ever played a BR shooter (apex) and someone on my team yelled "go back to fortnite!" like the very first game ever 😭

[torpid trench]

I was only at wave 50

jesus send help

[rocky harbor]

I dont mind being made fun of, it would be deserved for being a bumbler. but i just dont want to mess other peoples games up if that makes sense.

[languid belfry]

Yeah that's the MMO raid anxiety.

But honestly, if this helps?

Once you actually try?

You'll realize there are many more people who are just as bad, if not worse than you despite you being new

as long as you do research

[rocky harbor]

I mean at one time every single person was new at the raid too right?

[languid belfry]

It's how I got over my anxiety in FFXIV

lol

[spring cipher]

u get over it quickly and sometimes you just learn to take some light jabs

[languid belfry]

Better someone who learns from their mistakes when new

then someone who does 100+ runs

and still doesn't know mechanics

imo

[spring cipher]

if people really hated going with you, they would never invite you again, thats when you know they dont like you
but if they jab at you and invite you anyways

they really dont mind

thats my experience

[rocky harbor]

I do belong to a clan that does "learn how to ____"

[languid belfry]

Tbh some parts of OSRS community are toxic, but at least in leagues, overall people are chill

ask your clan then!

that'll help a lot with nerves

[harsh oyster]

i think the best part about leagues is that it encouraged me to get more into pvm and learn more about it

[languid belfry]

yeah

that's the best part of limited modes in general

you get to ease into it

and also you don't lose supplies like in main game

for failing

[harsh oyster]

i definitely still have a lot of learning to do but im pretty confident now i can handle a Lot more pvm in main than i ever could before

[languid belfry]

...god damn it I need 90 fletching for dragon arrows

what was the fastest fletching method again

[harsh oyster]

totems

[rocky harbor]

Clan has been very helpful. especially with leagues. I wouldnt have known to go get dragon sword and dagger for a diamond in zanaris without them.

[spring cipher]

valetotems

im doing that

right now