leagues-general

[harsh oyster]

1-tick karambwans time

shit takes like 5 minutes in leagues

[torpid current]

yea im lvl 90 already shouldnt tkae long

[tacit oyster]

task tracker plugin has random task button

[spring cipher]

theres a reason why they lock triple jad challenges behind inferno cape completioon

tbf

granted oh but u can do it in leagues

lol

[winged sinew]

they did?

[torpid current]

oh shit ty

[spring cipher]

its always been like this main game

u cant do triple jad challenge

until u beat inferno

[winged sinew]

i never done triple jads

i did 6 jads in leagues

[tacit oyster]

you need to enable it from plugin settings and do filters but pressing it will pin 1 random task at top of list

[winged sinew]

it was quite easy

[spring cipher]

like talking to the challenge guy main game you'd have to beat inferno first before doing triple jad+

but in leagues

its all unlocked

[winged sinew]

oh

[spring cipher]

yep

[torpid current]

thank you

wait i need to actually set my regions lol nvm

[late helm]

I wish you could 1t karambwans on mobile…

[torpid current]

there we go oke ty

[jovial tiger]

Oh God that's a long one

[torpid current]

ehh its fine :D

[harsh oyster]

echo cerb down

[smoky raft]

you can knock out all the forestry tasks in a few hours

it's really not that bad

[harsh oyster]

which means i now have to do either awakened vardorvis or doom

[torpid current]

gzzz

[harsh oyster]

awakened vard i can probably do easy enough if i actually play the goddamn game

doom is free i just dont wanna do the quest bc im lazy

[little wraith]

I don't like quests all that much but the doom quest wasn't actually that bad took like 15ish minutes

[toxic vortex]

ayyyy

[harsh oyster]

i love quests quite a lot questing is my favourite thing in rs

and i love the varlamore questline

ive just been so focused on other shit and doom was scary before my build was fleshed out

[winged sinew]

egg quest is so british

bullocks

[little wraith]

Running light thorns with anti-material crossbow for doom

[winged sinew]

and nobody can remember the eggs name

mumphty humpty?

[toxic vortex]

scrumpty brumpty?

[winged sinew]

i liked that quest

[toxic vortex]

so ayak means I'm pretty much done with doom

[little wraith]

conflictions

[toxic vortex]

got 2

and avernics

[little wraith]

oh yeah unless you want the pet

[winged sinew]

Rumpty Bumpty

[lone bloom]

Do the defence lvl boosting pacts increase thorns reflect chance? Or is it capped at 99 def

[smoky raft]

Full reflect chance, yes

The earth rune regen pact also scales based on your boosted level if you want even more

I can hit +85 def lol

[lone bloom]

So 18.4% chance to proc

[smoky raft]

Yep

[terse harness]

Oh earth magic boosts beyond the boosted?

Im sitting at 149 Def with just my pact points so far

15% reflect chance is pretty solid

[smoky raft]

earth mage ride or die

[terse harness]

Door shield ride or die for me

[smoky raft]

my 184 defense level gives me a min hit of 32

But unlike air mage I have enough def (and thorns access) to just not think

[terse harness]

Minimum hit big

[craggy geyser]

very dumb question, does the fang of the hound actually surpass a tentacle whip? i get that it has the special effect but -66 strength is oof

[terse harness]

Its faster right?

[harsh oyster]

fang of the hound is stab

whip is slash

they serve two different purposes

[rare hollow]

and we have accuracy pacts

[craggy geyser]

my abyssal dagger is also stab and still like 60 strength bonus more

is the special that good that it compensates like 15+ max hits?

[harsh oyster]

Not Really

[rare hollow]

its just a mid echo weapon

[harsh oyster]

fang of the hound is good but it just kinda evaporates lategame

[terse harness]

Fang of the hound is about the same dps as tent whip

Because it attacks 1t (33%) faster

Assuming your accuracy is good

The spec is the main draw too

[craggy geyser]

uff that's dissapointing then... echo weapons in general feel kinda sad tbh. if fang doesnt really surpass my tent whip, the gargoyle scepter doesnt really surpass my trident (except to tag jad healers lol), amox axes are outclassed by blood moon boppers... i guess the smoke devil echo is the only echo weapon in my regions worth using

[rare hollow]

gargoyle sceptre is built different

[harsh oyster]

all of the echo weapons have a place imo especially with the right build but kbd ballista and quadrant are definitely standout

[craggy geyser]

it carried me through all those jad challenges, i liked it for that, but for "single target" i rather just camp a trident

[rare hollow]

lower max hit sure but with 1t node and its great special attack that can be used far more often for typeless aoe damage it carries its weight

yeah single target u can just do toxic trident or something else

you cant deny its usefulness tho can have niche uses

[craggy geyser]

yeah true

i guess i just kinda expected echo weapons to all be more in line of the thermo staff (and i guess kbd xbow)

[rare hollow]

apparently its quite useful in nylo room at tob

[craggy geyser]

"niche sidegrade" isnt really "league special boss ultimate drop" idk

[rare hollow]

yeah thermy echo weapon is just busted lol

echo cg is a blessing which just makes crystal armour the armour for anything but its not reaching that level of broken

still very strong tho

[craggy geyser]

just kinda sad it took me ages to get a hellhound task and it turns out i may as well just keep whipping hahahaha

[spring cipher]

ye but its a task to wear varying levels of echo weapons

[next dust]

ugh yama has way too many mechanics

[spring cipher]

so u might as well

[tacit oyster]

dont worry dogger beats whip if you find enemy that has fire weakness

[next dust]

but it is funny, while minion wont attack yama

it will attack his minion during the intermission

[craggy geyser]

i already had 4 because thermo gave 2, so it literally gave me nothing XD

[terse harness]

Spec spam on dogger is probably nuts

[next dust]

that's fair game

[spring cipher]

yama is like as complicated as likd vard wha

[terse harness]

You get tent whip + hella fire damage

[toxic vortex]

Whats tripping you up on yama

[rare hollow]

psh yama is just ez

[next dust]

yama has so much googling

to know where to stand

[spring cipher]

oh well beating the echo varient should give u a task completion right

[craggy geyser]

hmm, maybe if i had the spec pacts

[next dust]

and what to do

it has so much things

[spring cipher]

ehh

[craggy geyser]

yeah true and i needed a bunch of echo kills anyways for other tasks

[terse harness]

Yama you just go in a circle wdym

[rare hollow]

no

[toxic vortex]

Yama is fairly straightforward really

[next dust]

why red tile?

[covert night]

I'm having a lot of trouble with echo hunlif for my hally build. i have prif, mort, and kourend. what kind of build should switch to to easy him?

[next dust]

why blue glyph?

[rare hollow]

whats a red tile

[next dust]

the glyph

the red glyph

[toxic vortex]

He means glyph

[rare hollow]

oh red and blue glyphs

[craggy geyser]

59220/65000 i'm very happy iwth how things are going considering how much time irl job wont let me play

[next dust]

obvs

[rare hollow]

no? XD

you need specific tiles for contracts

[next dust]

idk what that is

[rare hollow]

so thats why i was confused

[next dust]

but ok

[rare hollow]

hard mode versions of yama

[covert night]

???

[toxic vortex]

@next dust so what exactly is killing you

[rare hollow]

idk if i should even bother radiant in leagues ngl

[toxic vortex]

big rock falling on your head?

[next dust]

i just dont know what im supposed to be doing

ik "that is red glyph"

[torpid current]

can u go over 65k points or does it lock u at that amount

[next dust]

but idk when

[toxic vortex]

have you read anything about the fight

[next dust]

there's just too many to remember hah

[rare hollow]

then you go to youtube and watch a video guide

[toxic vortex]

or watched any kind of video

[rare hollow]

larping

[next dust]

i seen the "theoatrix" video

[harsh oyster]

im confused by what this thing wants

[next dust]

but theres so many

[harsh oyster]

do i have to enter the blue moon arena to resonate it??

[rare hollow]

theoatrix is not the guide to watch

[next dust]

id have better time studyiong for a maths final

[rare hollow]

not any longer

[rare hollow]

lying is bad mmkay

honestly idk what yama guide to tell you i just figured it on the fly

[spring cipher]

theo is such a bad content creator
he just copies the wiki and sometimes gets the facts wrong anyways

[next dust]

lie

def google

[spring cipher]

he copies homework and doesnt even copy the right answers

[next dust]

theres just too much nonsense

[rare hollow]

google ai is not going to help you kill yama

[rare hollow]

youre panicking

[next dust]

im also quite annoyed i have to switch to magic during the intermission

[rare hollow]

see a guide and try again

[next dust]

cause i dont have pray pen more than 25

[harsh oyster]

im so confused by this keystone fragment

[toxic vortex]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkLxCnvvJTk@next dust

[rare hollow]

im so happy that leagues doesnt let anybody just bash their head on a boss and expect it to die

kaoz? yeah he's prob the new theoatrix around imo

he does a good job

then you'll prob want to see other guides for tips and tricks tiles and such

[spring cipher]

i havent really watched kaoz's videos

[rare hollow]

its more or less good

[spring cipher]

but surely hes better that steal from wikiatrix

[toxic vortex]

https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Yama/Strategies

[rare hollow]

like theoatrix's current videos are just slop

you're better off watching kingcondor lmao

[next dust]

idk how im supposed to know when to use the glyphs

[rare hollow]

sippy sippy

[rare hollow]

wait for him to use a special

[next dust]

but how do i know

[toxic vortex]

its pretty clear when he does one

[rare hollow]

when he does a different animation than his regular autos

you see with your eyes

[spring cipher]

when he tosses a fire ball attack step on red glyph
black gylph when he throws a ranged attack
when the glyphs in front of his throne starts off black then its gonna be black gylphs for the first attack

[rare hollow]

here's a tip, stop bashing head on boss

just see quick guide take a break and learn boss

[spring cipher]

if the front of the throne is red then ur gonna stand on red first

[rare hollow]

atleast to some extent

[covert night]

whats a good mage setup for pacts for echo hunlef?

[toxic vortex]

@next dust his normal auto attack he just snaps his fingers at you

[covert night]

any links?

[toxic vortex]

anything other than that is a special attack

[rare hollow]

https://tenor.com/view/hop-on-yama-old-school-runescape-osrs-yama-osrs-yama-gif-16415801167165054202

btw for this special in phase 2 always stand near the fire glyph

[toxic vortex]

the only real setup that is applicable to mage and cg is getting 1t powered staff and 100% prayer pen

[rare hollow]

otherwise you get da meatball

[next dust]

ok that enrage phase is a load of garbage

[next dust]

isnt black glyph for the fire? i dont understand that one tbh

[spring cipher]

i have a kc video main game i can show you

u can skip over it

lemme show ya

im uploading it to streamable rn

[toxic vortex]

the enrage phase has a set pattern to it

[spring cipher]

https://streamable.com/os5226

[next dust]

its not like the whole thing i need from a big guide, its just the small things yk

like "what do the numbers mean mason"

and i can figure it out

nex seemed a bit easier to figure out

[spring cipher]

u can skip to enrage phase and see how i do it

[next dust]

ive not done it because of dps but

[covert night]

i have 27 pacts for the reset. can you show me a ghood mage build?

for CG

[next dust]

unfort i gotta use melee and knives

[spring cipher]

4:40 of the video is final phase

[toxic vortex]

https://tools.runescape.wiki/demonic-pacts/?n=1-133-134-135-136-44-46-53-56-59-62-64-65-66-68-92-94-96-97

Thats all that you need for CG

If you have kandarin, that build also works very well for demonic gorillas

[covert night]

thank you so much

[shrewd ermine]

i'd build into this tree ngl

[covert night]

also if i decide to stick with this what should i get for my staff for powered. i got priff, morty, and kourend

[smoky raft]

lithic scepter will be your best

can get swamp trident too, that's probably going to be the earliest one though

[spring cipher]

idk if that video helps or gives u an idea

but ye

solos in the main game

is slow as fuck

[livid slate]

I knew the game was gonna spoon me at callisto and venenatis just to make me go dry at vet'ion 😔

[shrewd ermine]

not sure how much accuracy you need for CG but I'd do something like this. you only benefit from accuracy, prayer pen, magic dmg, and the powered staff modifier

https://tools.runescape.wiki/demonic-pacts/?n=1-100-101-11-133-134-135-136-44-45-46-53-55-56-58-59-68-7-71-74-8-92-93-94-96-97-99

@covert night

for mory, trident of the swamp would be a good starting point, especially given you need to grind zulrah anyways for points. after that I'd go for sang and lithic

[toxic vortex]

swamp trident will be the best powered staff in terms of raw DPS. the lithic sceptre is good, but its better for aoe damage because of the special attack

[next dust]

the last phase fireballs make no sense

[toxic vortex]

They do

[next dust]

even in that video its even worse hah

[toxic vortex]

They are just designed to make you confused

[next dust]

really wish i didnt have to use magic

having to switch to a 2h weapon is annoy

[toxic vortex]

magic is usually preferred for yama

[next dust]

im on leagues

i need full kit for tasks and pact

if im using that (which i dont have) id never get it done

by end of the year

like whisperer is faster and easier

like 10fold

its just a load of nonsense

[spring cipher]

theres a set pattern

did u not see in the video i sent :o

[next dust]

it's google it mechanics tho

thats just running to tiles on specific timing? i still wont know how it works

[spring cipher]

when it drops

[next dust]

like i guess i could memorize

but idk why

[spring cipher]

it drops 3 fire bombs and u dodge in a set pattern

and depending on how the bombs are dropped

its a different dodge pattern

but theres only 2

[past birch]

Watch the video dude

[spring cipher]

well tbh if u learn how to dodge the patterns, u can learn yama main game and earn some oathplate

c:

[next dust]

i also dont have whatever "puurging staff" is

[austere mirage]

I have big sword! and a wealth ring

[past birch]

You don't need that just dump attacks on the orb

[harsh oyster]

are there any doom attacks i need to avoid particularly with waterthorns or can i just like. facetank everything

[tawdry carbon]

gzzzzz

[austere mirage]

||yes i wasted the 55k lamp on magic so i could enchant the ring||

[tawdry carbon]

u just have to be >99hp for the shield chargeup unless u interrupt it w grubs

[harsh oyster]

[spring cipher]

tbf u do so much damage in leagues it probably phases before u need to deal with orbs

and during enrage u have to only hit it once or twice for it to die

[next dust]

Not really tbh

I'm not mage build

[spring cipher]

then u have to kill the orbs or u can also step on the gylphs the nullify the orb damage before it pops

which is also another method u can deal with orbs

[past birch]

Doesn't matter the build you have you can deal with orbs really quick

[spring cipher]

alternatively u could say pop the black orb and then step on a red gylph/vise versa before it pops

or u can pop both but u might risk not having a glyph to step on when he does his range/mage attack

[spring cipher]

im not pointing at Islarf for this point but all the "hurr dur u can learn the mechanics in leagues for main game" when finally faced with needing to learn a mechanic in leagues be like:

like ive seen it so often here lol

[austere mirage]

....... damn

i did the final dawn quest thinking that was Ruins of Tapoyauik

[spring cipher]

wdym by that

👀

[austere mirage]

i didnt check what the ruins of Tapoyauik was

i thought it was the pyrimid with doom in it

[terse harness]

Is it not?

[austere mirage]

Nuuuuuuuu

it is where Amox is

the quest before final dawn

[spring cipher]

did u do final dawn then?

like do u have the sword that they give

that does burn damage when u spec

[austere mirage]

Yeah I did final dawn

So i got the sword and magic up at least

[spring cipher]

doom is in the middle of the varlamorme jungle place

[austere mirage]

I was just looking around in the place looking for jellies

[spring cipher]

if u teleport to tal takan and run right side

[austere mirage]

And was confused why I couldn't find them

[spring cipher]

otherwise u can also evil eye and tp to doom

[austere mirage]

I aint doing doom!

It has doom in its name!

[past birch]

some just don't bother even when you got no other choice

[spring cipher]

lol yea

[harsh oyster]

im gonna be killing dragons for a while

wheres the best place for me to farm dragon bones in kandarin/mory/asgarnia?

[livid slate]

mith drags

100%

[spring cipher]

mith dragons if u dont have dfh yet

[harsh oyster]

Something tells me thats not right

[spring cipher]

its cause it counts as 3 tasks u can do

dragon fire shield points

dragon full helm

[livid slate]

You're banished to skeletal wyvern jail for doubting me

[spring cipher]

and u get bones too

idk if u done them yet

[harsh oyster]

consider that i just want bones for prayer xp and dont want to bother with the dfs or dfh and i also dont want to deal with mith drag crowding

[spring cipher]

but if u have gotten ur dfs and dfh then u can go to myths guild

theres dragons there

[livid slate]

Red dragons in karamja is an option

[spring cipher]

regular ass dragons

if u want dragon rank tbh mith dragons is a decent chunk of points

i still need to hunt dfh

and i still have to hunt for nightmare kc and inq

[harsh oyster]

arent there like 99999 people at mith drags on every world

[livid slate]

There's quite a few, because it's worth doing

[austere mirage]

Not on worlds with 80 people on it

[livid slate]

But you'll find a world eventually

[austere mirage]

then they is only 79 people at mith dragons

[harsh oyster]

not worth my time atm then

im here for prayer

[austere mirage]

no trans powers?

[harsh oyster]

Elaborate

[austere mirage]

Transmute

[past birch]

Transexual powers

idk what that is

[austere mirage]

https://klipy.com/gifs/hmm-suspect-1--k01KRHD4Q654A1QDY91BPW75SQZ

[winged sinew]

do what everyone else does at mith dragons, just walk in and crash someone

[austere mirage]

i just sat in a corner with 1 dragon

like this one is mine

[harsh oyster]

transexual is dated terminology, transgender is preferred terminology

[harsh oyster]

If I had transmute would I even be considering Dragon Bones farming

[past birch]

Oh cool, I didn't know that

[winged sinew]

mith dragons is ffa now

[spring cipher]

didnt know they could turn water into wine as their super powers
huh...

[austere mirage]

idk, you might not have known that it works on bones

[past birch]

Is it considered dated as of recently? Maybe I need to get an update

[spring cipher]

ye i would say so

[winged sinew]

🙂

[austere mirage]

paper?

[past birch]

Jesus was trans 🤔

[spring cipher]

mostly cause there are also ace people (ace being not interested in sexual things) so transexual wouldnt make any sense

[livid slate]

Man

[winged sinew]

I was after the emerald

[livid slate]

I was getting crashed at vetion

[past birch]

Yeah I learned about ace recently as well

!

[livid slate]

And I tried pking him with king's barrage

This thing is so ass in pvp

[winged sinew]

616 kc visage felt nice

didn't stay for long

[spring cipher]

ye some people are flat out not interested which suddenly makes sense

lol

[harsh oyster]

its been dated for the past decade and a half or so

some individuals still prefer it but generally speaking transgender is like. Correct terminology

[past birch]

Ok so I was using terms from the stone age my bad

[harsh oyster]

eh, its a common mistake

[toxic vortex]

holy pages

[late helm]

I forgive you on behalf of megatron

[merry sphinx]

getting crashed at mith dragons cos ur too lazy to move i cba with some guys man

[austere mirage]

Oh is that what the paper was?

[toxic vortex]

yeah its for the diary pages

theres like 26 total

and they are all collection log slots

[austere mirage]

lets see how many i have!

[toxic vortex]

well if you haven't left varlamore

then 0

[austere mirage]

true!

[harsh oyster]

no good drops

Do I keep going

[toxic vortex]

well, there tasks for deep delve KC

if you are doing water thorns, the kills are fast

[austere mirage]

i have guthix pages! and rest of the gods

[toxic vortex]

no reason not to

[toxic vortex]

separate thing

the pages in his screenshot are specific to mithril dragons

[austere mirage]

i know........

[terse harness]

Water thorns 😒

[austere mirage]

how about sword potato?

[toxic vortex]

Whats wrong with water thorns

[austere mirage]

is that a good build?

[winged sinew]

you don't have to pick it, good for you

[harsh oyster]

some people dont like having fun and thus hate it when other people have fun too

[winged sinew]

True

[harsh oyster]

does it get any harder past level 8?

[austere mirage]

you dare leave Varlamore?! are you even playing the game right?

[winged sinew]

the mentality, if i had to suffer, so do you

[toxic vortex]

same exact fight

[harsh oyster]

i see

[toxic vortex]

are you using the car wash method?

[harsh oyster]

idk what that means at all

[toxic vortex]

hold on

[terse harness]

My flavour of Tylenol is a disdain for following meta guides/builds

[late helm]

I like water thorns

I don’t like people who afk a bunch of content with water thorns but then complain about the 10% of content you can’t stand still and afk with water thorns

[winged sinew]

people complaining how other people play is so weird to me, it's a game where you mostly play alone

[merry sphinx]

search carwash doom on youtube

[terse harness]

Prefer doing my own thing

[merry sphinx]

u can copy the tiles

[harsh oyster]

i did my own thing early on

then switched to meta

i do both

[toxic vortex]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUoeBqJbNdE

[austere mirage]

Woah i think i just blindbag 3-4 times in a row with the base bag

[spring cipher]

same difficulty infinitely
thats why its a endurance test

[tacit oyster]

8+ is easier than 8, 10% less hp. just more acid on floor

[harsh oyster]

theres acid fuckig everywhere

[toxic vortex]

yeah but it doesnt matter

you stand on those two tiles

and thats all you need

[merry sphinx]

idk if I was doing it wrong but in 2 delves doom dropped a rock on the wash tile

[winged sinew]

we all prefer to play our own way (I know you meant not following meta but someone has made a build just like you and you don't know it)

[toxic vortex]

I think its a bit rng

I had that happen one time

[harsh oyster]

i have my strange fruit on me anyways so its whatever

[winged sinew]

some people like to just have fun

and feel overpowered

[toxic vortex]

i have a serp helm

[terse harness]

Yes we all like to have fun

[merry sphinx]

lucky I have flask on that account

[terse harness]

But following someone elses guide robs you of a potential avenue for fun

[winged sinew]

i didn't follow a guide

[merry sphinx]

being able to do content is indeed fun

[winged sinew]

and i went water thorns

[harsh oyster]

ok car wash got me obliterated i shouldve just kept doing what i was doing bruh

[toxic vortex]

by what

[harsh oyster]

he dropped a rock on the car wash tile and i immediately died

[winged sinew]

I did my own thing

and still went water thorns

[merry sphinx]

you have to tank until delve 6

[terse harness]

Great

[harsh oyster]

i was on delve 10

that wasnt the issue

[austere mirage]

welcome to the car wash!
Oh shit whats that?
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[merry sphinx]

oh

did it drop a rock on the tile

[harsh oyster]

i

just said that

[toxic vortex]

Yeah but what actually killed you

[winged sinew]

not true, not everyone likes to spend time crafting a build

[harsh oyster]

a variety of things all happening at once

[winged sinew]

some do, some don't

that is the beauty

you can do whatever you want

[toxic vortex]

I had an issue at the beginning of doing the car wash, what fixed it for me was running back to the car was tile as soon as he starts charing up the big hit thing

[merry sphinx]

if you have flask

[harsh oyster]

i dont

[austere mirage]

Give me the flask!

[winged sinew]

https://tenor.com/view/asterix-magic-portion-gif-27523687

[austere mirage]

me when i get a good cup of coffee in the morning

[terse harness]

I wonder if we'll see a thorns shield make its way into the main game

Given its popularity in league

[harsh oyster]

probably

id imagine EXTREMELY nerfed vs thorns build but still

[winged sinew]

I don't think it would fit in

maybe in some way

[terse harness]

No way they'd make it hit 30s but would be cool to have a dps shield

[tacit oyster]

thorns shield would not be popular in main game unless it beats all offensive options in dps

[livid slate]

It's gonna happen again, ain't it

[winged sinew]

dps shield?

[terse harness]

Thorns is + dps

[harsh oyster]

bulwark?

[terse harness]

Could be a cool addition to dinhs yeah

Or just a new item entirely

Spiked shield

[merry sphinx]

too broken

[terse harness]

Maybe

[winged sinew]

maybe only against melee

[merry sphinx]

melee xp would be insane

[winged sinew]

since you have to be close

[terse harness]

We already have vengeance, echo boots and recoils

Wouldn't be too out of pocket

[merry sphinx]

those hit 1s or once

[terse harness]

And you'd have to slot it instead of avernic

[winged sinew]

attach ring of recoil variant to a shield

[terse harness]

Maybe a 3 damage thorns or something

Would be kinda like having another thrall

[brazen crest]

Thorns would be nice for being bad in main game

[merry sphinx]

maybe if it didnt give xp

[brazen crest]

Can still dps while eating

Echo boots exist already though

[winged sinew]

echo boots, ring of suffering, thorns shield

we need more

(not really)

[next dust]

?? he ONLY uses the fireballs if im only using magic? thats wrong right?

he does the rocks on me using knives?

even if i dont use dogger (which ik does magic damage)

[terse harness]

Oh theres mechanics? I just rush him down with melee lmao

[harsh oyster]

ok doom is also not worth my time

[next dust]

im having bad thoughts. that i think the old BOW build was actually better dps wise than this thrown weapon / small weapon / thorns build. even without thorns.

[torpid trench]

Anyone got experience with a light thorns?

[terse harness]

Light thorns is very strong

[next dust]

bow build was like 2x faster at Zulrah than these are

[terse harness]

3 tick tent whip is crazy

[next dust]

for example

am using hot dogger

im assuming better?

[torpid trench]

Wondering about sustain

My original plan was to go eternal sus

[next dust]

how much do you plan on using potions?

[torpid trench]

But med clues for cerb boots without conniving is gonna be horrifying

[next dust]

do you have kandarin?

[torpid trench]

Nope

[harsh oyster]

do entry runs count for the complete tob 25 times thing

[torpid trench]

And pots? Depends on sustain

Id rather just use food. Eternally, or through butler fish

[tacit oyster]

eclectics were fine for medium clues, even better if you have huntsman

[next dust]

cause friendly forager 90% to not use secondary stacks with the 10% from goggles

so infinite potion resources for content

[merry sphinx]

wiki says normal or hard

[spring cipher]

u should farm it main game if u do 1-16 its like 18m/h

[harsh oyster]

no

im awful at pvm im not touching anything even close to doom until im comfortable with maingame pvm

[torpid trench]

Based on my options, Im either going conniving or sustenance, its jist down to how much healing I can juice out of light thorns

20% chance to heal based on disrance doesnt sound like a ton, but you hit so fast, so idk

[harsh oyster]

yeah ok the tob task isnt happening then

[terse harness]

Thorns gives you the big heals with that pact

Because it can hit 8 tiles away

[harsh oyster]

i tried it one (1) time on Normal and got obliterated by the first boss because i didnt understand the mechanics

[tacit oyster]

you could maybe get away without sustenance if you pick flask but some content would need other healing

[terse harness]

Against the big tough bosses, you want sustenance for thorns build

They don't really attack fast enough for you to heal on 0s

[torpid trench]

Other healing is fine, Im not looking to fully sustain off thorns, just enough to only need 1 invent and still go fairly easy instead of just doing stuff the maingame way

[next dust]

im half tempted to go back to my bow build lol

[torpid trench]

like i dont want to be corner camping and pray flicking the fight caves

[next dust]

the thorns build and w/e im running aint cutting it with the ranged accuracy from having to run melee gear using darts

[torpid trench]

Also this is the region/relics plan atm

but i want to swap eternal for conniving

[next dust]

This is the endgoal

[torpid trench]

Man I swear thats more than 40pacts

I tried to build something similar and came up short

[terse harness]

Sustenance thorns has been really fun

Gluttony build

[torpid trench]

The thorns isnt the main focus for me, its more about the light weps since im planning to make use of dogger

[terse harness]

Well I hate to say it but

[torpid trench]

Dont care

[terse harness]

Unironically dipping water spells might solve sustain

[torpid trench]

new item is new, its my 3rd acc

[terse harness]

Since you want fire pacts anyway

[torpid current]

what is with the amount of crashers at corp beast holy

[torpid trench]

oh i was preplanning for the "dogger is shit use whip"

[terse harness]

Hahah nah dogger is new and cool

[torpid current]

no

oops wc

[terse harness]

I was all in on dogsword specialist last league for the same reason

[torpid trench]

But also

Time to double blow your mind

[harsh oyster]

the ghost thing on whisperer is complete horseshit theres not nearly enough time

[torpid trench]

Im doing light thrown

Basically the same build as islarf posted above

[terse harness]

What are you guys using for throwing?

[merry sphinx]

i dont understand phosanis at all how did I go from 188-0 instantly

[terse harness]

I have some poisoned d knives i take into tob

[terse harness]

For green and purple nylos

[torpid trench]

D knives and executioner axe

[tacit oyster]

low time is so you forced to select which you kill, main game you use venator bow to get around it though

[terse harness]

Oh thats fun

[torpid current]

me using dragon dart p++ and i want the frisbee from colosseum

[terse harness]

Frisbee seems so ass

Its slow af

[torpid current]

D:

[torpid trench]

probably got stacked out off prayer. Phosani is a brutal skillcheck, even brokens leagues damage and sustain doesnt matter there. You still need to learn the fight

[torpid current]

it double hits tho right

[terse harness]

Yeah

[merry sphinx]

ah im not doing this then 😭

[torpid trench]

[next dust]

know what i have 3 resets

i might try my STUPID off meta magic build ive been pondering

that doesnt use ANY elements

[merry sphinx]

I thought I could just water thorns brute force like yama and doom

[torpid trench]

Players when they realize they need to actually think about something new instead of just brain off 2nd screen

[harsh oyster]

i can barely kill three in the time it gives me though

like theres Not enough time

[shadow smelt]

So I fucked myself by mistake, upgraded the viggora's chainmace & craw's bow without wearing the normal versions & lost out on 400pts total, is there any way to undo them back to their normal versions? 🙁

[torpid current]

oh yeah ur right wow its 3x slower than my darts

[torpid trench]

youre just praying right and not standing on black circles my dude, its not that hard

[harsh oyster]

also every single fucking attack doing 45 sanity is actually absurd

definitely just not farming whisperer

[torpid trench]

on main game its a bit more involved because you need to handle things more efficiently than that

[harsh oyster]

which means these last 4 pact points are going to be a pain in the ass

[torpid trench]

but on leagues, water heals will compensate

[torpid trench]

Why are you taking sanity damage?

[harsh oyster]

because i do not have time to kill the ghosts

[torpid trench]

Kill the two saying Vitas

[tacit oyster]

getting hit by specials or not killed the correct 3 ghosts

[harsh oyster]

i also keep fumbling the towers but thats just me being bad at game

Sanitas are the ones that drain sanity and are the bigger concern for me

[torpid trench]

oh so its a skill issue, gotcha gotcha

[harsh oyster]

if i run out of sanity im omega fucked

[torpid trench]

You shouldnt even come close to running out if you arent getting hit constantly off prayer

[torpid trench]

that was my original plan for my 1st acc, seemed like a giggle

[tacit oyster]

yeah flask only way to retore it outside the ghost killing special

[terse harness]

Its comical

[harsh oyster]

waterthorns restores sanity too but its a super low amount

[torpid trench]

So about light thorns sustain from the 10% nodes

[terse harness]

Thats good for overhealing with overheads but its pretty shit sustain by itself

You cant Facetank with that alone

[torpid trench]

i dont mind a little praying, and i dont mind eating some fish my butler provides, I just wanna make sure im not gonna need eternal sus just to complete content

[toxic vortex]

thanks colo

[torpid trench]

Because if I end up needing eternal sus just to get by, then Im giving up on cerb boots task

And if i take clues planning for cerb boots task only to find out i need more than 1 full invent of fish, Ive got no way of reloading

[terse harness]

Idk man if you can do hard content in main game you'll be fine without infinifish

[next dust]

so

thought for the stupid magic build idea

[austere mirage]

Soooooooooo i found a glitch

[next dust]

it doesnt use an element, but does a powered staff

Undead Grasp spam from Toxic Staff of the Dead

[austere mirage]

i somehow had the dragon Halbred on even though i cant due to not doing regiside quest

i am guessing it was due to blindbag and something else

[tacit oyster]

you are gonna need full inv of fish for solo nex but if you plan to do team/mass nex its not that big deal

[terse harness]

Got lots of wasted pacts there on bad pathing

[dusky coral]

why is your thing so shaded and beautiful

[next dust]

probably

idk mage

[terse harness]

You don't need to link the top/earth part

If youre already pathing from middle

[fickle thistle]

I’ve reached 10,000 kills for a visage and I’ve got nothing.

I need to stop and get my trophy. The game doesn’t want me to have this item.

[modern ginkgo]

Going for confliction gauntlets at doom

Do I reset every 7 delves?

8*

[fickle thistle]

9

[potent quail]

does the 40 points raid vrsion of prayair use thorns?

[tacit oyster]

going as deep as you can would be best

[fickle thistle]

Unless you wanna keep going

[modern ginkgo]

I've been reseeting at 15

So I'll do 9 then

[harsh oyster]

is maiden of sugadinti supposed to be abysmal dogshit or am i missing something

[spring cipher]

not really lol

[toxic vortex]

where tonzalcs

[fickle thistle]

It’s like.. do I grind the visage still or just max and push for dragon

[harsh oyster]

she takes absolutely forever to kill solo

[spring cipher]

maiden spawns crabs at 70 50 and 30% u wanna kill the crabs before it gets to her

otherwise it buffs her damage and heals her

[harsh oyster]

yeah i do that but she still takes Forever to kill

[spring cipher]

u also wanna reduce her defence

to hit better

stuff like dwh and eldermaul or bgs can help

its slow in a solo because u cant kill all the crabs going in

and also no def reduction from ur region

[harsh oyster]

i dont wanna jump into a random party and get yelled at for being bad at game

[potent quail]

like can go for visage for longer afk sessions
and during active play go for max

[next dust]

tholughts now?

[little wraith]

wuh

[next dust]

oh im missing one

[spring cipher]

you're likely to brute force a reg tob run

than a hmt

[harsh oyster]

i mean i already did a full entry run so i know how it Works for the most part but like

[potent quail]

why the earth node?

[next dust]

where?

[spring cipher]

theres alot of technicalities

[tacit oyster]

[potent quail]

pstaff regens earth

[fickle thistle]

Yeah I was gonna take a break and do Con then Prayer on my new shiny altar

[spring cipher]

that u dont get to learn in leagues

[next dust]

idk the +1 magic damage LOL

[fickle thistle]

Then back to afking

[potent quail]

also missing the thorns node

[harsh oyster]

right thats fine thats not the point

[next dust]

is that earth pact worth it? the defence boosting?

[harsh oyster]

im not trying to run ToB in maingame

i just need to run it in leagues

[potent quail]

doubt it

[spring cipher]

then send it in leagues

[spring cipher]

if u wernt getting gatekept by maiden you'd likely get gatekept by nylos

in a solo anyways

[harsh oyster]

nylos were annoying as hell even in entry

[little wraith]

the farming pet check is on check-health not digging the stump right?

[tacit oyster]

another pet

[toxic vortex]

should be

[toxic vortex]

nearly 1300 boss kc total here, no pets

[harsh oyster]

probably help some if every single ToB dedicated world wasnt entirely dead

[next dust]

im confrused

[harsh oyster]

theres like 1 or 2 groups on one world that i dont intend on holding back

[next dust]

(toxic) staff of the dead has charges. but is not a powered staff?

[harsh oyster]

it doesnt have a dedicated spell

[tacit oyster]

if it has to cast from spell book it is not powered stave

[harsh oyster]

powered staves have unique spells

yea

[austere mirage]

Oh i did it again, i shouldnt have that on

[toxic vortex]

the charges are from adding the magic fang to it

[spring cipher]

it charges to venom targets

[toxic vortex]

to inflict venom

[spring cipher]

thats what the charges are for

[next dust]

i dont think i can powered staff arceuus then

[spring cipher]

in entry i would argue its free as fuck
reg tob nylo solo is a nightmare

[spring cipher]

pillars are squishier etc

[toxic vortex]

what do you mean

[little wraith]

lol, lmao even

[next dust]

well

[austere mirage]

i dont even want it on! that is the worst bit

[next dust]

theyre not powered staves

the toxic

or otd

even tho they got charges

[terse harness]

?

[toxic vortex]

we explained the charges

[harsh oyster]

because, again, they dont have unique spells

[toxic vortex]

did you read that?

[harsh oyster]

we like. Just explained this

[toxic vortex]

we even tagged you

[spring cipher]

toxic staff of the dead

is closer to like kodai wand, master wand

ancient staff etc

but the charges are a chance to venom targets

when you cast a spell on them

shrimple as that

https://tenor.com/view/bugcat-bugcat-shine-bugcat-morning-gif-18160753948927674734

[modern ginkgo]

Okay so going for conf gunatlets because it's worth it

[next dust]

the concept of "powered staff" is still new to me

other than ibans staff

[modern ginkgo]

What about ring slot?

[next dust]

ive never had one

[modern ginkgo]

I'm using ring of suffering (i) atm

[harsh oyster]

we explained what powered staves are in detail

[spring cipher]

i wouldnt consider ibans staff powered either as it requires to cast from a spellbook

powered staves are independent on their own

[next dust]

thats so weird

ive never seen one

[spring cipher]

they can fire without needing to cast a spell from a book

[next dust]

i guess i just go back to bow build

i cant do my meme build either

[past birch]

It still gives vibes of a charged staff for some reason lol

[next dust]

kourend, asgarnia, tirannwyn

unsure what to do now HAH

[little wraith]

Ibans is a little bit of an outlier because it has a unique spell that needs charges but is cast from spellbook but is not a power staff

[past birch]

Man iban blast is so cool

[spring cipher]

[[trident of the seas]]
[[trident of the swamp]]
[[sang staff]]
[[tumekens shadow]]
[[eye of ayak]] are all powered staves

[next dust]

dont you mean

[obsidian bluff]

Wiki links found:
https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Trident_of_the_seas
https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Trident_of_the_swamp
https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Sanguinesti_staff
https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Tumeken's_shadow
https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Eye_of_ayak

[next dust]

https://tenor.com/view/biden-blast-joe-biden-biden-blast-gif-6547929686164862695

[toxic vortex]

[[warped sceptre]]

[obsidian bluff]

Wiki links found:
https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Warped_sceptre

[next dust]

but i dont have access to Kandarin

to use the elemental ignoring so no point

[past birch]

[[lithic sceptre]]

[obsidian bluff]

Wiki links found:
https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Lithic_sceptre

[next dust]

i was gonna use Undead Grasp hah

but if have to just use the "3 tick" version

im kinda stuck in what to do now tbh

like to actually get a build to do content with

it's slow at everything tbh

[toxic vortex]

if you didn't take kandarin, tirannwn, or mory

your only powered staff is probably ayak from the doom fight

[next dust]

i got tir, but no point

[spring cipher]

^

[tacit oyster]

or shadow but that cannot use thorns

[past birch]

Shados is ass in leagues

lol

[spring cipher]

yea sadly

[next dust]

i can go back to the Bow build, which was faster DPS than the thrown/melee tbh. i get less sustain but more dps.

[tacit oyster]

shadow is fine in dps, just no sustain or thorns

[next dust]

i wont have access to much power as i dont have desert tho

[past birch]

Even with all mage dmg pacts it can barely stratch 30dps outside toa

Like not even close

[spring cipher]

thats so ass lol

[next dust]

i can crystal/bowfa/natures recurve/twisted tho

and get kit from Kreearra

[past birch]

It's more like 22dps or something

Sang outdpses most of the time

And that's WITHOUT thirns

[spring cipher]

just know that any staff that requires you to cast a spell from a spell book

isnt a powered staff

[harsh oyster]

idk what to do about tob because i dont wanna join a random party 25 times in a row but i definitely cant do solos

[spring cipher]

i mean whats wrong with that

ur gonna have to do tfa like that on launch unless u already have friends

[harsh oyster]

yeaahhh i guess

[spring cipher]

its just part of the experience

[harsh oyster]

idk i dont like dragging parties down because idfk what im doing

[spring cipher]

and id suggest joining a group of people to have ur daily raids before tfa comes out

otherwise you'd be SOL when the raid comes out

[harsh oyster]

daily raids?

[spring cipher]

like you know

you login and ping ur friends

"hey lets do a few runs"

"maybe today we'll get a purple"

[harsh oyster]

i see

im gonna be so real here in the entire time ive been playing runescape ive never actually made any friends that are as into runescape/more into it than me

[spring cipher]

end of the day osrs is a social game and having friends to go raid with is good

i think its good to have people to do content with

so many people in this game are anti social and push for wanting soloable raids which i think goes against the spirit of mmos

[harsh oyster]

i agree but i also have the giga antisocial autism

really its quite a miracle im even active in this server

[spring cipher]

i am autistically social in terms of like "ill say whatever shit i want without realizing ive said something rude"

thats how i made my friends

[harsh oyster]

i Also do that

idk ill force myself to run tob later i guess

with randoms

[spring cipher]

i do exactly that and honestly you will find a group that you can vibe with

[harsh oyster]

rn im just gonna focus on personal goals

And by that I mean its back to Vardorvis for that last Virtus piece

[spring cipher]

it took several group switches before i found a home

[harsh oyster]

i can fully facetank vard no prayer now so its even more afkable

we going to 1k

[late helm]

I wish there was less of a push for soloable content because group content is so fun. I hope there is more end game content which requires people to pull their weight and take on unique roles

Barb assault, you are ass, you don’t count.

[shrewd ermine]

is hard tob the same as normal but with higher stats?

[spring cipher]

tob is just that

[spring cipher]

new mechanics

[shrewd ermine]

oh

[spring cipher]

im gonna type up the differences

[shrewd ermine]

okay

[late helm]

I hope there is more content like tob tbh

[spring cipher]

Maiden now spawns full sets of crabs
the blood tomatoes now are functionally immortal so u have to freeze it
the blood trail that it leaves behind is now permanent
you need to swap tanks at a certain point to tank maiden's autos otherwise it ramps up
letting in any crabs will increase maidens damage and attack speed (attack speed portion increase is for hmt)

[late helm]

Bloat hands are always falling, maiden more blood, nylos more big nylos, sote everyone is part of the maze, xarp more poison, verzik falling ceiling

[spring cipher]

Bloat: falling hands dont ever stop falling
can now turn back 2 back several times
does more damage
more hp

nylos: the normal nylos not only stop u from killing it if u hit it with the wrong style, you also get reflected damage
wave 10 20 and 30 will now spawn an additional price nylos for you to kill
nylo king will now require moving
he will hit harder if u arent spread apart during range phase
he will hit harder if u arent stacked on top of each other during mage phase
melee phase is the same
unlike normal tob if you are late to ur prayer and eat 80 damage from it ur teammates now also eat 80 damage if ur late

[open ginkgo]

how rare are gargoyle tasks

[harsh oyster]

hm

[open ginkgo]

ive skipped a ton with duradel i havent gotten a single one

[harsh oyster]

does bgs nuke vard's magic defense?

[spring cipher]

sotetseg: maze is now shared between 3 players and each player has a portion of the maze to solve
he can now spawn 2 death balls so in a team u want one death ball player on the right one on the left and everyone in the center

xarpus the 2-3 outter row is now covered in poison
its basically the same until phase 3 where if you hit xarpus while hes not facing you he will turn to you
have people attack on different corners with same attack speed weapons to keep xarpus spinning in a circle

p1 verzik whenever she fires her blue ball mage attack at a pillar it also drops falling rocks that stun you so u have to alternate between the pillars

p2 verzik now her cabbages will leave a lingering poison tile for a while so u have to alternate tiles

p3 stays mainly the same but between phase changes like crabs, webs, yellows, death ball it can swap tanks

yellows also require to stand on 3 b2b2b

[toxic vortex]

man I'm really kicking myself for not claiming those tonzalcs on a previous run

[next dust]

does this mean COMBAT style, or ATTACK style?

like longrange / Rapid?

[spring cipher]

and once you kill verzik she heals back to 20% hp again

and u keep going

[harsh oyster]

combat style probably

[spring cipher]

@shrewd erminehope that makes sense

[next dust]

im contemplating a dumb combo Bow + XBow build lol

using armadyl xbow to nuke between bow shots

zcb*

sorry

idk weapons

[toxic vortex]

it means a different combat style

[next dust]

thats disappointing

bow build L again

i am so lost LOL

[terse harness]

There might be tech with crossbow thorns

Since thorns always max hits

And crossbow always max hits

[toxic vortex]

Everyone is complaining about blindbag behind meh

but ranged in general got real shit on this league

outside of kings barrage

[spring cipher]

idk since most people dont bring def draining specs to vard as he loses defence the lower health he drops

[next dust]

zcb and bowfa / natures recurve or smth lol

that pact right in the middle is so BAD

why

[harsh oyster]

did not know that

still would be nice to get some magic hits in early on

[spring cipher]

you might notice u hit more often when hes lower hp

[austere mirage]

i got the things!

[bronze tangle]

what's the most effective way to level slayer with culling spree (w/z/d)? Max number tasks? I don't really know how xp works for it...

[toxic vortex]

pick tasks that give superiors

try to get lucky and chain together a bunch

[harsh oyster]

or boss tasks?

[toxic vortex]

sure

if you have some to do

[spring cipher]

are u doing the uhm

complete x tasks?

cause u can just take 5 kc for easy tasks

and just do that on repeat

[late helm]

Will there be another grid master in between now and next leagues?

[bronze tangle]

well, trying to get to 95 for hydra then 99

are boss tasks significantly higher xp rates?

[spring cipher]

pick a task that spawns superiors

[terse harness]

+8 ranged str at 180 hp overhealed

[spring cipher]

since u want imbued heart and eternal gems anyways

[next dust]

how does a bow build overheal?

none exist

you cant overheal with bows without thorns

[terse harness]

Kings barrage

[next dust]

cringe

just for 1 item

[harsh oyster]

what was the consensus on dragons? brimhaven or myths guild?

[bronze tangle]

Cool, that's what I've been doing

[next dust]

kourend?

[spring cipher]

mithril dragons if ur hunting for the shield and helm
myths guild if u only want bones

[bronze tangle]

Got some good abyssal demon and bloodveld chains

[spring cipher]

imo

[harsh oyster]

[spring cipher]

hes kandarin

[bronze tangle]

No imbued heart yet though

[spring cipher]

irrc

[harsh oyster]

its*

but yes kandarin

[spring cipher]

its kandarin irrc

https://tenor.com/view/bugcat-bugcat-shine-bugcat-morning-gif-18160753948927674734

cause we call uh

kourend zeah

[harsh oyster]

The Great Continent of Zeah

[spring cipher]

to differentiate it

yep

[next dust]

at my current 32 pacts id do this? to go towards

[shrewd ermine]

it mostly does

[harsh oyster]

2300 points to addy

[austere mirage]

its free!

[shrewd ermine]

I guess I should grind some normal kills before I try hard? seems like a lot of people that are doing hard have double digit kcs

[terse harness]

What regions you got?

[tacit oyster]

perfect whisperer completed while fully igonering the ghosts

[spring cipher]

give it a go

maybe u will do fine

[next dust]

kourend, asgarnia, tirannwyn

[merry sphinx]

how do raids purples work

[shrewd ermine]

im just trying to make sure i dont become known as a poo poo stinky raider

[merry sphinx]

I thought 1 purple means everyone gets it but in normal tob we all got whites but 1

[austere mirage]

Ewwwwwww its the poo poo stinky raider

[spring cipher]

its a 1/9 chance deathless at tob so with leagues rate its like 1/3 or something
if in leagues, if one person rolls a purple in hmt everyone gets a purple

[shrewd ermine]

[tacit oyster]

hard mode tob all get purple if one gets purple, 500+ invo toa everyone gets purple is 1 gets it

[merry sphinx]

oh hm

[spring cipher]

thats why hmt is worth doing in leagues

cause u get a purple every run

so higher odds of running ur megarare voucher

[terse harness]

Grab full crystal with blessing, faster powered staff pact, faster bow pact, and melee pact of your choice imo

Then you can do the ultimate tribrid

Magic, bows, and melee

Never have to switch armour

[next dust]

i was gonna do arceuus tho

cause it's typeless

[potent quail]

huh no raid

[next dust]

i dont have to deal with elementals

[terse harness]

Ok but thats bad

[toxic vortex]

powered staves aren't elemental either

[potent quail]

i think pstaff is jsut more damage then any arceuss spell

[next dust]

Im SO confused

[terse harness]

You have toxic trident with tir

[next dust]

am i not using the powered staff to autocast a regular spell

[terse harness]

Get 1 tick toxic trident and you win the game

Arceuus spells bad

[toxic vortex]

you can't use a powered staff to autocast a spell from a spellbook

thats the whole point of a powered staff

[merry sphinx]

i wish desert wasnt so dead

toa is the best raid for leagues

[spring cipher]

powered staves have a built in spell

so its different

u arent casting a spell from the book

the staff is attacking by itself as its own attack

[next apex]

is there any fast way to vlv RC

lvl*

[toxic vortex]

not unless you took soul harvest

[merry sphinx]

soul shards

[next apex]

ahhh

[merry sphinx]

gotr

[next dust]

idk why i dont jive with whatever these powered staves are doing

[spring cipher]

its just

u charge with runes

and wear staff

click mob

boom its attacking

like a ranged weapon thats it

[toxic vortex]

I don't get what you are confused about

[next apex]

im very bad at pvm whats the best last relic to take for it

[spring cipher]

i think flask will save u

if ur confident in pvm id go minion tho

[merry sphinx]

what regions

[next apex]

is there a cooldown on the flask or can i spam it >?

[shrewd ermine]

someone called me an ass because two mith dragons auto attacked me while I was trying to find an open spot

even if I did "crash" them, they're wearing ahrims, an anti dragon shield, and a fire cape hogging 2-3 dragons at a time 😭

[merry sphinx]

3m cfd

cd

[jovial tiger]

3 min cool down , can reduce by 1 second every 10 damage you deal

[spring cipher]

300 ticks between casts but the more you attack the cooldown gets lowered

[next dust]

ive just been pondering with no idea what i want to do and made this garbage LOL

sorry no we remove that 25% accuracy for that 1% damage node HAH

[toxic vortex]

That looks bad

have fun though

[terse harness]

I hate it

[harsh oyster]

i need so many bones

sooooooo many bones

ugh

[terse harness]

Got minion?

[harsh oyster]

yes

[terse harness]

Ez pz then

[harsh oyster]

slow and mindnumbing

easy, but slowwwwwwwwwwww

because i need Thousands even just of dragon bones