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tawdry carbon
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ya

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i need to practice my runs

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b4 may29

long trail
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when can i axe pnm

spring cipher
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ye but if ur water mage u can technically tag a majority of it

long trail
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can i skip phase 4

pure karma
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will disabling the bbc freeze give me more dps for enemies i cant freeze?

tawdry carbon
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pnm is such a slow fight for the abysmal droprate

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i cba to do it for points beyond the few kc i did

spring cipher
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u have to get 2/2 for the first one
2/3 for the next one and 3/4 for the final one

harsh oyster
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im

hazy anvil
harsh oyster
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Whuh? Huh?

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i had her down to like 900 and i looked away and then back and she was back to 2800

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What happened

hazy anvil
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Probably the bug that pregnated you

crystal kelp
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Parasite probably

spring cipher
tawdry carbon
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here it is

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my dragon outfit

spring cipher
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it heals the boss

tawdry carbon
spring cipher
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and the pillars too

tawdry carbon
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prepare yourself

harsh oyster
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oh so you have to do more than just drink sanfew??

hazy anvil
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we're prepared

tawdry carbon
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time to do potions in bed

spring cipher
tawdry carbon
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and then do my last 65k point task with my morning coffee

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lolol

hazy anvil
harsh oyster
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i see

open ginkgo
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does any1 have advice for echo hunlleff? ive got 2 kc and like 50 deaths, mostly to the enrage phase because of the 50 mechanics at once, im doing a melee blindbag build but only have a single reset atm

scenic garden
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yea the parasite heals her constantly if you don't kill it

tawdry carbon
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he only has 1 respec

crystal kelp
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Reset into 1t staves with prayer pen

tawdry carbon
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if he goes prayer pen it gives him cg but then what kekw

harsh oyster
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ok that heals wayyyyyyyyy too fast

tawdry carbon
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if ur just doing blessing for now, perfectly doable w blindbag

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i did blindbaggle

harsh oyster
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it healer her back to damn near full before i even damaged it

tawdry carbon
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kk goodnight all

open ginkgo
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gn

tawdry carbon
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c u tomorrow with my dragon cup kekw

open ginkgo
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the tornados arent too bad its the disco lights that are fucking me up

spring cipher
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ill say

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nightmare is way harder than dt2 bosses lol

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xD

long trail
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when do i axe in pnm

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do we know

scenic garden
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I'm not sure axe would work there, since the fight is all attacking its shield

spring cipher
scenic garden
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unless it can proc on 20% shield to phase it

spring cipher
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i think at 20% it would phase her to the next phase

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in the sense of like

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oh shes low hp u phased her now u have to kill pillars

scenic garden
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I would expect it to just drop her shield at 20% then you do the totems and sleepwalkers

spring cipher
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ye

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thats what i mean

scenic garden
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not really cutting much from the fight

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sorry was typing that as you said it

open ginkgo
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do we get pact resets every week like last week

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then i might just reset for the sake of cg

scenic garden
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the only ones who know are jagex

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and they haven't said anything about it

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when you say one reset, do you mean your first reset and you haven't cleared any echo bosses or you're on your last?

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cause if you have 4 more echo boss resets to look forward to, send it

open ginkgo
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i just have one left

scenic garden
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oh right, you said you had 2 echo cg kc

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uh... yeah... blindbag on your last reset is rough

harsh oyster
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i think pnm is totally doable for me im just a half hour deep in a melatonin and a few hours too deep in a long day vclassic

pure karma
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the actual ring is next ring drop, right?

scenic garden
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for bosses like Zuk, how does this work?

harsh oyster
harsh oyster
pure karma
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thats weird

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i got 2 gold ring drops together

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i thought it was 1 at a time

harsh oyster
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it goes 1 ring, then 2 rings, then ultor

pure karma
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oh

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neat

harsh oyster
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2nd roll always drops 2 rings

scenic garden
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I mean are you considered to be standing right next to him or does it actually count you as being 5+ tiles away from him?

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since you can't physically get right next to him, but for other large bosses like jad or doom I expect it counts you as 1 tile away in melee range?

harsh oyster
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id assume it counts tiles outside of hitbox

long trail
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holy shit i just did it

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pnm down

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axe does phase the shields

spring cipher
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nice

scenic garden
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good to know

harsh oyster
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i actually have no idea

long trail
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man i've killed phosani's nightmare but not fucking skotizo 😭 something is off balance here

harsh oyster
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zuk is definitely an edge case

scenic garden
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idk how you'd measure a difference in accuracy rolls

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but I splash alot on him anyways

long trail
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if i've used 3 resets i dont get a 7th ? or i do from my last echo boss

scenic garden
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for some reason the first 2 cycles of the shield I don't get any damage on him, which reminds me I probly should have brought a mage piece for that

fickle thistle
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Echo Hunn got hands but I’ve almost got my blessing

scenic garden
fickle thistle
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Need a third armor seed 🙁

long trail
harsh oyster
scenic garden
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I think it was still 2, unless this weeks was a 3rd free one

harsh oyster
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there will probably be Another free one vclassic

scenic garden
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was it a free one + huey at first?

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it might be 7 total so far

harsh oyster
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good question

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i dont remember

long trail
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just checked

harsh oyster
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im holding on to that last pact reset for dear life

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its my last one and i wanna use it to Fuck Around if/when i hit drag

long trail
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im saving 2 in case i wanna spec into something and then back

scenic garden
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actually, there was an easy answer to that, I still have 5 resets so it's 6 total so far

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only used one so far to go into water thorns

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maybe I could see if vard is easier on another build once I get more pvm stuff done

long trail
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i think vard is easiest on light melee thorns

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but idrk

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i do him with 1t staff thorns and that cooks him in under 60s

scenic garden
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yea I get normal vard in 30-50s, just can't get a kill on awakened vard

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with quadrant

crystal kelp
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Awakened Vard you'll have to interact with mechanics regardless of build

long trail
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yeah he stacks you out super fast

scenic garden
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well he has too many mechanics

long trail
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2 hits and you're gone

scenic garden
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miss any one mechanic and I'm done

harsh oyster
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i keep misclicking and obliterating poor unsuspecting bastard gnomes while trying to walk thru the stronghold

long trail
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i just think the axe hitting you when it spawns is a little unfair but thats about it otherwise i think it's a fun boss fight

scenic garden
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and there are 3 mechanics on top of me at any given tick

harsh oyster
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ive fucked myself into a corner trying to roll kraken tasks and now i have to kill 14 black dragons or suffer the consequences

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god wants me dead

long trail
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well 14 black dragons is not so bad

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i did like

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3 fucks up

scenic garden
long trail
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landing on elv tasks

harsh oyster
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its Not but im so lazy and gay

long trail
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150 + of them :3

spring cipher
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middle axe skip doesnt work there

long trail
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i have never done a corner axe skip

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i think

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mind you im unguided on vard idk what the fuck im doing on that boss

spring cipher
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axes spawn in spots where u can skip for reg vard

spring cipher
# long trail my brain doesn't understand what you mean

one game tile lmao

fang is no longer effective here due to nerfs (use your best slash weapon)

vardorvis projectiles plugin from the plugin hub is very good as explained in my awakened vardorvis video (set the style to Cox within vardorvis projectile settings)

my recording software switched mics to a built-in mic on my monitor lmao

Awaken...

▶ Play video
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this is middle axe skipping

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cant do this method at vard irrc

spring cipher
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for some reason more axes spawn from the center in awakened so u cant stand there

scenic garden
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why does zuk have to throw a whole nother jad at you while you fight him

spring cipher
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tbf

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uh

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i mean if ur doing the inferno jads attacks should be really slow for you

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at that stage/level

scenic garden
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yeah triple jad is easier than I expected, but you need to watch for his attack and move with the shield or you get double whammied

long trail
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:(

shrewd ermine
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are people just doing tob with "randoms" this league?

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wasnt sure how many people were using WDR

long trail
spring cipher
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leagues discord is prob a good shout

shrewd ermine
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yeah i saw. didnt see a whole lot but its 1:30 my time XD

spring cipher
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ah

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im down to fill in for a 1nd

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if u need me

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i have flask so i can flask either 30s or 50s

quiet spindle
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anyone down to do some huey?

long trail
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how tf do i get darts for my bp manm

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i dont have desert

spring cipher
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u can fletch

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for it

spring cipher
torpid trench
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Is there any way to get burning claws or other light weapons with specs that are actually good besides dds and abby dagger?

spring cipher
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thats why light weapons is so dog

torpid trench
spring cipher
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thats exactly how i feel

hazy anvil
torpid trench
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Yeah but i dont really want to take Kourend just for claws

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imean i will if i need to

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but

long trail
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that's like the only actual weapon i think lol

spring cipher
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literally ur only opton

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since no mistalin

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= no torm demons

smoky raft
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Is VW light?

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1.8kg. Damn

long trail
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fuck no

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that shit heavy

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:(

spring cipher
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1.814 kg

torpid trench
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imean the dogger spec doesnt sound too bad

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instant hits like maul

scenic garden
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apparently crystal is also heavy, cause saeldor is a heavy weapon lol

long trail
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yep

scenic garden
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they really didn't qa that feature at all lol

long trail
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only light melees are claws, daggers, and whip
not even the fucking rapier 😭

torpid trench
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I feel like when they planned the pact trees, and desided light weapons and their effects, they hadnt yet planned to completely omit misthalin

smoky raft
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one of my favorite bits of spaghetti is all the weights being decided in pounds but represented in kilograms

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voidwaker is exactly 4 pounds

spring cipher
scenic garden
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there aren't even that many "light" weapons even if they didn't exclude misthalin

long trail
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its just that burning claws is like the perfect weapon

torpid trench
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Its also a very tiny category, yeah

spring cipher
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so dumb

long trail
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also i feel like they felt forced to do light, since they did blindbag

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it’d be awk to include heavies and ignore lights (not that lights got much love)

covert night
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What are the best blindbag weps?

torpid trench
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Should have just changed the definition

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1kg was too limiting

scenic garden
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they need to completely overhaul the weapon systems if they're ever gonna do light vs heavy weapons again

long trail
covert night
long trail
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yees

crystal kelp
crystal kelp
long trail
covert night
scenic garden
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pretty sure I've had 2-3 axes and a green ball hitting me at the same time

long trail
covert night
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Thats crazy

spring cipher
scenic garden
spring cipher
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if its all same tick

long trail
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maybe a 6th to wield if you’re not using hally lol

crystal kelp
scenic garden
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for the uncharged that is

crystal kelp
long trail
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blindbag da hero

crystal kelp
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When just equipped and hitting something

long trail
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it just works

scenic garden
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oh I thought you needed to charge it to get the 3 splats, nice

night pier
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I had blindbag all leagues and at 40 pacts and full endgame gear it was weaker than my alt with an air staff and 15 pact points. Other than the fun 1shot once every 250 boss kills, it's dogwater

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and no one has time to farm 5 scythes 73

long trail
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i just love the bluetooth :3 i dont care if it’s good or not

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hallying from 7 tiles away is the funniest shit this leagues

night pier
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yea that was fun

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did zuk with it, though it was awkward cus I could only attack from middle tiles

scenic garden
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I need to give up on this last pact point cause it's gonna take the rest of the league for this one task

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and I still wanna hit dragon

torpid trench
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Im looking forward to 2t dogger. I never really cared about dps beyond doing enough to secure kills, but hitting every 2t, with 2 splats, and spamming the spec, that i regen super fast from multisplatting, just sounds like a giggle

night pier
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that build is way easier to get going than blindbag and you can use thorns with it. I'd recommend that over blindbag any day

scenic garden
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is dogger what does the big aoe spec?

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I saw that in some tobs

long trail
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lithic sceptre

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big boom spec

scenic garden
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it's not lithic, I have lithic and it was kinda disappointingly small

long trail
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what :0

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it’s so big tho

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i swear it’s like 5 tiles big

torpid trench
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If you mean the big AOE fire waves that people drop, thats flask of fervor

long trail
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(idk if that’s actually how big it is)

scenic garden
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it's like 5x5 and the one I'm talking about is either 7x7 or 9x9

long trail
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oh that big

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yeah thats flask

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xD

scenic garden
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ah

torpid trench
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Also I wont be using thorns with it KEKW

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Well, I will be, but only the basic thorns node

scenic garden
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I wish we could get all the t8 relics

long trail
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i wish t8 relics worked on yama

shrewd ermine
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what's the most consistent way to do perfect vardorvis? seems like it's pretty heavily rng based

scenic garden
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I wanna try the other ones but mith rank on 2 other accounts would be too much of a grind

spring cipher
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is the most consistent way

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(the normal way)

shrewd ermine
scenic garden
long trail
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time to teach mac what you were teaching me

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xD

scenic garden
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I still have no fucking clue how I got that achievement

torpid trench
scenic garden
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just no

long trail
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i wanna work on my alt :3 ironman seeming more and more tempting

scenic garden
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I hope that if they bring back the pact tree they gives 10+ excess point tasks so we have more options for how to get them instead of forcing us into the most bs bosses for the last one

long trail
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that and please add either a way to farm resets or more resets in total

torpid trench
long trail
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how do you have the time

torpid trench
fair swallow
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9-5 is only 8 hour days, guaranteed atleast 1 hour is spent frigging around

long trail
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im bankstanding irl bruh

torpid trench
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Well, technically I work 7-3:30

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But its easier to say 9-5 because people instantly rationalize how much time i spend working

fair swallow
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6-6 is the best shift

smoky raft
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second shift gang wya

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2-10 my beloved

torpid trench
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As for time spent messing around? Im a freight driver, I dont get to fuck around, im moving at mach jesus in a deathbox weighing more than a building

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i do not get to OMEGALUL

fair swallow
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Based truck driver mentality

scenic garden
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is there a better 1h weapon I could get between tent whip and rapier?

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couldn't get into any tob groups so unlikely toget justi or rapier any time soon

torpid trench
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But yeah, 3rd account is coming along nicely, did different builds for each of them

smoky raft
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saeldor if you really wanna suffer

tawdry carbon
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Hell yeah

scenic garden
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oh right I have corrupted salad

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too much stuff in this gear tab

tawdry carbon
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1500 points to dragon !!!!

smoky raft
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Saeldor is just the slash equivalent to rapier iirc

long trail
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its an upgraded tentwhip so

torpid trench
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He's just a baby KEKW I did waterthorns first, then the bbc build, and now this meme 1h/thrown weapon build

scenic garden
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200m str already?

shrewd ermine
scenic garden
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on the parasite thing

spring cipher
long trail
spring cipher
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^

long trail
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he dont hit double digits if you do it fast enough

scenic garden
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well that sucks cause the awakened vard one is even faster so I'm missing that too

spring cipher
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i feel like im so behind

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all my friends got dragon

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and this one friend is at 74k points

shrewd ermine
spring cipher
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ur just being nice slowing down for me

shrewd ermine
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maybe blobcatloveuwu

shrewd ermine
scenic garden
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oh there's the 2nd soul reaper axe piece

fickle thistle
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I have like 43k

shrewd ermine
spring cipher
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waow!

shrewd ermine
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gamer BugCatWOAH

spring cipher
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is mac sticking around main game

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to be a gamer

shrewd ermine
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ill think about it

spring cipher
shrewd ermine
spring cipher
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waow

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cheez

shrewd ermine
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i made this one

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it's holding a chomcolate bar

spring cipher
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can rats eat chocolate

shrewd ermine
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rats can eat uranium

spring cipher
torpid current
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is there a way to cheese corp beast without somethign to reduce its def

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it regens so fast

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i dont get why this is just 80 points xD i cant kil this fucker

tawdry carbon
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Fuck yeah

shrewd ermine
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is this based on the GE or HA value?

tawdry carbon
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99 herb

shrewd ermine
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gratz!

tawdry carbon
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Almost done 🙂

spring cipher
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irrc

shrewd ermine
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i'd be surprised if it was GE based ngl

scenic garden
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untradeables go off their "value"

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which may or may not be HA value

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and the wiki may or may not be correct

shrewd ermine
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GE doesn't make much sense to me ngl because 1. league players are effectively ironman and 2. inflation exists 😭

scenic garden
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that hasn't stopped them on other aspects of the game

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pretty sure death protection goes primarily off ge price

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with some weight on the "value"

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or maybe some untradeables like fire cape get a guaranteed priority

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and minion might go off ge price

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it's incredible how much they haven't differentiated for irons

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I was getting disqualified from the achievement because of my ring of suffering, which said it's untradeable but I guess only when it's charged or smth

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cause it has a ge value of 20m when it's tradeable

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oh he really drops bronze javelins wtf

long trail
scenic garden
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no awakener orbs in the last 30 kills

torpid trench
scenic garden
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you can't recolour the shield CryCat

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unplayable

cyan cobalt
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After hitting the pity limit on the first 3 echo bosses,

I unlock wildy, get the orb on the 2nd kc, fight KBD and get the weapon on my first kc

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wtf

timber quest
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Or the chally >:(

pure karma
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is it my turn for a ring drop or not

tawdry carbon
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100 moonlight cooks DONE?

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-@‘ost there

scenic garden
tawdry carbon
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900 points left for dragon

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🙂

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Now I sleep for real

timber quest
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Anyone fucked about with the fire bounces? I'm using them in kraken and they won't bounce east >.>

scenic garden
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40 dry on awakener's orbs...

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I guess the game says I'm done trying too

pure karma
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money noise, but its orbs, ingots, and quarts

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just gotta complain enough, baby

cyan cobalt
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So wait, for these wilderness bosses, can I work with people and we'll all get credit?

pure karma
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for the big ones

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not the smalls

cyan cobalt
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Ah like corporeal beast, it'll be shared

pure karma
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funny enough, you have to solo corp in leagues

timber quest
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Isn't that the opposite of Corp? :p

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Cuz cmon fix Corp already

cyan cobalt
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Lol amazing

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i was just afking him and died while reading these messages

timber quest
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O7

scenic garden
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got orbs b2b at 119 and 120 kc and now I'm at 170 with no more, wtf

cyan cobalt
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Wait LMAO Corporeal Beast counts as a chicken?

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I never killed a chicken so I got that challenge LMAO

scenic garden
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time to get chicken task and wreck him

cyan cobalt
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New meta?

scenic garden
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if that exists

cyan cobalt
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Apparently birds is a slayer task

floral basalt
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Do barrows weapons at different levels of durability count as "unique" for the purpose of increasing blindbag proc chance? Like do the 5 dharoks axes I have (25, 50, 75, 100 and unused) count as unique?

scenic garden
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yes

floral basalt
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please say yes

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oh thank god

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my grind wasn't a waste

scenic garden
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that is a valid tech

floral basalt
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sweet, thanks man

scenic garden
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also both charged and uncharge versions of the scythe along with it's kitted versions count for it

floral basalt
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thats sick

scenic garden
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and there are 5 double-hit weapons as well (echo amox, blood moon, amox/frost naguas, sulphur naguas, and earth naguas)

floral basalt
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Biggest chain I've had with those were 9 procs in a row. Massive dopamine hit after that

naive needle
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does stacking boppers for the range echo procs work better than something like 5 godswords?

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i've also heard the that blood moon set effect works with having an additional machu in inventory and can drop the ticks between attacks to 2, that true?

marsh haven
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how long does the archery target minigame tasks take?

cloud basin
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Hmm I just got nechryaels assigned but i have kandarin and tir... I am confused the wiki says its only morytania?

floral basalt
cloud basin
floral basalt
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no it's in prif

cloud basin
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alright ill have a look thankss

floral basalt
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south west corner

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directly south of the dye trader

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it's single combat though so the task will take a while

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all good homie

pure karma
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is there an update today or just maintenance?

torpid trench
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launcher says its routine maintenance

bronze tangle
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90-99 crafting is a real slog - any tips? EH/HF/T/NA, areas are W/Z/D

torpid trench
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Cut gems

pure karma
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no butler?

austere mirage
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who can help me do Huey? Apparently it would take me 30 mins to kill him on my own

bronze tangle
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no butler

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feels like I've been cutting gems since the dawn of time

pure karma
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i wouldnt do it

bronze tangle
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and will do until the heat death of the universe

torpid trench
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and yet you keep cutting

pure karma
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just like i wouldnt do 99 rc

torpid trench
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its the fastest xp without butler

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which is why butler is the goated pick

timber quest
torpid trench
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how awful would it be to try and do a melee firecape with light weapon pacts?

timber quest
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Shouldn't be too bad, the step backs will be kinda stinky but depending on your healing capability it should be alreeet

torpid trench
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What healing?

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afaik the only healing ill have is the fish from my butler

timber quest
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Are you thorns aswell?

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There's 1 pact that gives 10% chance to heal from thorns based on distance

long trail
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who need a mf team 🔥

fickle thistle
torpid trench
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its any melee dmg, and thats 1hp since im in melee 10% of the time

fickle thistle
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Happy I got this done

torpid trench
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doesnt sound like great sustain? worry

timber quest
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It doesn't xD

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Aslong as your fundimentals are fine, you should be good tho

torpid trench
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oh im a long time player and ive done pretty much everything on my main except inferno and hm tob

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not worried, just dont want a super bad time KEKW

timber quest
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Yeeeee you'll be fine gangstaaa

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Just big lava frogs innit

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Gl pet

torpid trench
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if i end up sweating with a yew shortbow and addy arrows when i have melee pacts, i might cry

jovial bone
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Got the woodcutting Lep event, sent some items (directly and via the talk-to options), neither counted for the task. What gives?

torpid trench
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if you have eternal harvest turned on, it overrides the bank thing and it fails

timber quest
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Do you gotta stand in the rainbow?

torpid trench
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Also like goose said, i dont think it's his bankbooth feature, i think its the buff you get from the rainbow that temporarily banks your logs when you cut them

jovial bone
torpid trench
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but again, if you have EH, it overrides that

jovial bone
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Oh

timber quest
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I'd guess it's standing in the rainbow cuz it's kinda the main gimmick of the event

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Disable eh, absorb de gay

jovial bone
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Curious, I’ll try to remember it next time I see him

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If*

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Stand in rainbow, disable EH, right click deposit aswell as talk-to

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Every option there is

torpid trench
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You shouldnt need to talk to him for the task i dont think

#

stand in rainbow, get little gold clover buff, disable eh, cut tree, profit points

jovial bone
#

Confusing task, unless I am just dumb

marsh haven
#

can i just kill 1 of them and loot for it to count?

scenic garden
#

yes

marsh haven
#

so close

austere mirage
#

These are the ones for runecrafting isnt it?

long trail
#

bye game

timber quest
#

Yessir

long trail
#

i go sleep

jovial bone
austere mirage
#

i got the duel blades, like 5 scrolls. a shit ton of runes

#

but no essence

timber quest
#

Cuz that lamp skips reqs

scenic garden
#

I forgot about maintenance and I was in a hunllef kill 🙃

austere mirage
#

Im stuck in Varlamore

timber quest
#

Ooo fun

#

But also f

austere mirage
#

idk what frees me yet

scenic garden
#

I mean it'll kick me out but I was halfway thru

timber quest
#

Max cape

scenic garden
austere mirage
#

i know

#

i have the points to get like 2 more regions

scenic garden
austere mirage
#

im just keeping locked for now

scenic garden
#

ah ok

#

I had the same mindset as you, it's not fun

austere mirage
#

it has got me doing new things

timber quest
#

I spent sooo long in varla, it was always gonna be my 1st pick so it was kinda dope

scenic garden
#

I branched out cause I was getting frustrated at how few tasks I could actually do with the like 9 points I had

jovial bone
fickle thistle
#

Where can I go from here? Obviously conflictions and DFS but I’m just curious how big powered staff can get.

scenic garden
#

areas?

timber quest
#

Confliction gauntlets will be big

scenic garden
#

you can get confliction gauntlets from doom

fickle thistle
#

Prif, Mory, Kand

scenic garden
#

and I think fire cape would be better than slayer cape? but haven't looked at skill cape stats in a while

timber quest
#

Is a skill ape better def bonus' than a fire cape?

fickle thistle
#

I already have tank gear and the echo thermy stuff

#

I thought it would be better for thorns

timber quest
#

I'm confident it's not better than inferno but imbw

fickle thistle
#

But it’s on the menu

timber quest
#

Feels

scenic garden
jovial bone
scenic garden
#

so a bit better

#

but not sure if it would reach the next breakpoint

fickle thistle
#

I did nothing but Araxxor and Vard for blindbag stuff when I was melee

scenic garden
#

can they assign doom?

jovial bone
timber quest
fickle thistle
potent quail
#

Skill cape adds 2 more prayer bonus then fire cape

But fire cape adds also 4 strength bonus

scenic garden
#

if you're gonna do big tasks, only do the ones with superiors

timber quest
#

It's been 6 minutes since I cast a fire spell

I'm freaking outttttt

jovial bone
scenic garden
#

you should be able to kill amox on a nagua task I think

timber quest
#

Yessir

scenic garden
#

and if you have culling spree you get the slayer helm boost

#

without needing it on

torpid trench
timber quest
#

Not taking culling spree has really refreshed my hatred of slayer

#

It's so nice not having to worry about being on task lmao

#

Idk maybe it's cope xD

#

It's nice needing a thing and just going and doing it rather than playing cancelscape for 10 mins

fickle thistle
#

What’s the use case for occult vs blood fury when it comes to powered staff/water + thorns

torpid trench
#

bloodfury

fickle thistle
#

Oh just blood fury

#

Don’t even take occult

timber quest
#

Blood fury has higher defence so it'll increase your thorn reflects

torpid trench
#

thorns heals you as its melee dmg, the defence boost is more thorns dmg, AND as a waterthorns, accuracy is you big weakness, which i belive fury is better than occult for

timber quest
#

+5% magic damage is large tho

torpid trench
#

occult is only for magic dmg

torpid trench
fickle thistle
#

They’re right

torpid trench
#

Accuracy is the crutch of a thorns mage

#

since youre in full melee tank

scenic garden
fickle thistle
#

I need those gauntlets so bad lol

timber quest
torpid trench
#

so that +5% dmg doesnt translate as you would expect

timber quest
#

Plz cook frego cuz I'm a lil confused too :p

scenic garden
#

man I got one armour seed right before maintenance, I need to keep grinding for that last one for legs

torpid trench
#

Better of taking more accuracy (fury) and hitting 2/10 times

timber quest
#

Aaah I see, which is why you also keep mentioning accuracy

torpid trench
#

yeah

timber quest
#

Makes sense to me

torpid trench
#

as a water mage, youre in full melee gear, your magic acc stat is like -245

#

even with leagues multi, its shit to hit

#

thats why conf are a huge upgrade

timber quest
#

That splash double roll do be kinda cracked

jovial bone
#

I am barely 5 days old

torpid trench
#

that, the leagues multi, and the chance to max accuracy roll based on distance are clutch for water mages

torpid trench
jovial bone
#

I’m not, I was just asking how to

torpid trench
#

Im like 4 days old on my 3rd acc, and im not touching slayer until my T5 (im 900pts away)

#

oh KEKW

#

Classic mistake of assuming you were seeking knowledge for something you were about to actually do instead of just curious

#

my b Praydge

jovial bone
#

Yeah I am not hyper efficient

#

First leagues since Twisted

torpid trench
#

neither am I lmao im working 8.5h days full time and have a family

#

im just vibing

jovial bone
#

Twisted was boring for me, it felt like a chore

timber quest
#

We're back lass

rocky basin
#

Time to grind the wildy bosses? I think yes

timber quest
#

Glgl

austere mirage
#

Why do you hate me?!

rocky basin
#

I'm done with chaos fanatic (blind bag build still, it was brutal... So many 0s lmao)

austere mirage
#

||fully closing the game how it back up||

timber quest
#

Server reset also deleted flask cooldown get wrekt dorillas

rocky basin
#

Ope bottomless flask?

#

Good thing I'm still on... T6 kekw

austere mirage
#

where is the essence?!

timber quest
#

Just need a server reset between uses xD

rocky basin
#

I mean if you're bursting the cool down is probably only a minute or so right

timber quest
#

Uhhh if you do get essence, do you know it'll dissappear if you leave the area

Seen someone lose like 10k to banking lmao

timber quest
austere mirage
#

DAMN!

#

i've only left once

austere mirage
#

but the drop list says ive not got any dropped yet

scenic garden
#

it disappears when you leave or tele out

timber quest
#

If you try to walk out it says things will vanish but if you tele it's gg

rocky basin
#

I've taken no chances and turn in after each task, glad ive done so lmao

#

Sulfur ess is prob 95% of my rc xp from leagues (main game I just do gotr, like a sane person)

timber quest
#

Dorillas are completed

austere mirage
#

yeah i've not got any at all so far

rocky basin
#

I mean you're only what 50 kc in? It's not boosted, probably

#

I'll prob go set at sulfur naguas for a while when I do mixology for aldarium, get some goading pots so I don't have to reset aggro

timber quest
#

I still need sulphar blades lmao

#

Sir you only have to run 10 tiles south xD

#

Based peak lazyness lmao

rocky basin
#

Yeah but it's leagues

pure karma
#

theyre still really slow

rocky basin
#

I'll telegrab the essence if I want to

rocky basin
scenic garden
#

not the seed I wanted Jagex Madge

timber quest
#

I'm hoping the fire spells bounce if I safespot them lmao

scenic garden
#

one more armour seed and I have ful lcrystal

#

tho I think one piece of barrows is still gonna be better for my dps

rocky basin
timber quest
#

It didn't work on cave kraken so I'm not hopeful

#

Husky gonna make me post the video again

#

It doesn't work thanks husky

scenic garden
austere mirage
#

Yay i got the essence!

#

how do i turn it into RuneCrafting?

gilded robin
#

Any worlds have people running TOB?

scenic garden
#

now get 30k more

scenic garden
#

check the world list

gilded robin
#

there's no one here lol

scenic garden
#

do you have entity hider on?

#

or are you from the US cause this is sleep time for most people

#

you could try the uk or eu world if the ping isn't too bad

#

or just check a populated world

timber quest
merry sphinx
#

trying to do fight pits CA where the bat doesnt hit you

#

it spawns right on top of me

#

nice

timber quest
#

Fuckin batss reee

austere mirage
#

i need like 20 more essence! that should be enough for 52 runecrafting

timber quest
scenic garden
#

so much fun getting boxed in at echo cg

austere mirage
#

i've got 2 drops off the essence and 2 Sulphur blades

rare hollow
timber quest
rare hollow
#

if only you knew how to take a screenshot

scenic garden
#

not the back to back seeds I'd like Madge

timber quest
austere mirage
timber quest
scenic garden
#

come on hunllef drop an armour seed

timber quest
#

I just got logged out for mentioning it xD

austere mirage
#

Mods! check his account for super hacks!

timber quest
merry sphinx
#

tried to do corp afk like I seen people do

#

immediately smacks me 60

rare hollow
#

man why is reddit full of sweep ups today

austere mirage
#

you need to stand on that 1 spot!

#

sweep ups?

rare hollow
#

they can't even sweep their own rooms

#

idk some summer sweep ups

#

i came to see some memes

#

colours feel weird on radiant

#

or honestly just could be something I grow into

scenic garden
#

73 echo kc 😄

#

now if only crystal armour was tankier so I could be done my progression

rare hollow
#

it has some decent defenses

fickle thistle
#

Everything but..

rare hollow
#

rip and tear till its done

fickle thistle
#

I could have kept going but I gotta do some work now

#

Delve 29 or something

rare hollow
fickle thistle
#

Learned how to “car wash”

rare hollow
#

ig thats nice to learn for leagues

#

i just did it normally, once i found out slayer staff can autocast dark demonbane and with prayer pen

#

deep delves were much easier

fickle thistle
#

Do you need Zeah for that

rare hollow
#

yh

#

idk if grimoire gets access to it since im aware kingdom divided unlocks a bunch more spells iirc

#

24 new spells made available in the Arceuus spellbook (all combat spells with the exception of Ghostly Grasp and Inferior Demonbane, and all utility spells with the exception of Resurrect Crops and reanimation spells).

#

ig you still get inf demonbane

scenic garden
#

got to floor 29 on that one before it decided to spit acid in the last few spots I needed and I ripped

#

no gloves

#

I could swear I beat doom during its car phase on several of those last few...

timber quest
#

Ya probably know, but incase you don't, gloves in the loot won't make the hole glow as it's gauntlets not cloth

austere mirage
#

I killed blue moon!

scenic garden
#

I only vaguely knew about the hole glowing for uniques, but that's good to know I guess

#

gz

timber quest
#

One of my buddies was descending cuz no glow

scenic garden
#

well it shows you the loot on very floor

#

doesn't take that long to look lol

timber quest
#

Ikr I always clicked check anyway cuz I'm not that much of a minmaxer haha

rare hollow
#

uu have to check olol

timber quest
#

Plus tooth halves are insta claim for me xD

rare hollow
#

i mean that moon chest isnt very valuable imo

#

open it once then leave but yes a very reliable place to get moon key drops is from doom

#

literally never seen it drop like anywhere else in varlamore from pvm except very rarely from colosseum

timber quest
#

I think I'm upto nearly 200k icefiends killed on main hunting teeth haha

#

Wait I'm in tapoyuik I can go check

rare hollow
#

youre better off killing doom for it tbh XD

timber quest
#

I can't totally afk it at work for ~0.3 teeth p hour

rare hollow
#

and i heard huey's drop for moon key bits are bugged as well much rarer than supposed to be

timber quest
#

Oh only 162k icefiend kills my bad xD

#

Teehee

austere mirage
timber quest
#

I want(ed) the helmet xD

weary shadow
#

Thorns and multicombat?

timber quest
#

That's main game xD

weary shadow
#

Ohhhh lol

timber quest
#

Goading pots and void/BP haha

weary shadow
#

Are icefiends the best thing to get it from ?

timber quest
#

Afaik gilded is right in doom > huey > others, but you can imagine the difference in afk-ness

#

I think it's the meta for afk, I haven't checked in a long time tho so it might have changed

weary shadow
#

Ahh makes sense, but did you get the Moon Helm in the end?

timber quest
#

I don't wanna talk about it

weary shadow
#

Buu

timber quest
#

Xd

#

The worst thing is I'm not even halfway to rate lmao

weary shadow
#

I just want Cerb to drop me the Ranger Boots upgrade already....

timber quest
#

Ooof glglgl

weary shadow
#

1 in 501 is a bit crazy for something that already rare to get

timber quest
#

Tbh I'm a little sad they nerfed the rates and made it a clog, it was so much cooler as this basically impossible item that you'll never see cuz it's so pointless to get

#

Maybe if the improved rates gave me a helm I would think differently xD

weary shadow
#

Well you got 900 hours on average to get it

jovial tiger
#

What's the best afk fishing exp this leagues?

timber quest
#

What's ur t1?

jovial tiger
#

Endless

weary shadow
#

You want 99, or just exp?

timber quest
#

I'd you have kandarin I think it's barb fishing, I'd guess karambwans if not

#

Maybe even regular fly fishing

jovial tiger
weary shadow
#

Fly fishing, but recommended to get the fishing costume if you have the areas for it

jovial tiger
#

I have it because of the awful kand trawler task

timber quest
#

Damn I still need to do that xD

weary shadow
#

I got 1 piece, but I might go back get it all and then go for the spirit version

#

3rd pair of Eternal boots

timber quest
weary shadow
#

About to hit 400kc

#

4th pair at 413Kc

scenic garden
#

well there's 75 deep delves done and not a single glimpse of the gauntlets

torpid current
#

5 kq heads, no chainbody xd

weary shadow
#

Took me 56 to get the chainbody*, the heads get so annoying after a while

torpid current
#

i got a dpick, dragon 2h and 5 heads so far

#

im only here for the chainbody cuz i have wildy and got the dpick+d2h from that

next dust
#

so i found a new strat for doing fletching game which uses the infinite whistle and only 20 inv slots (+1 knife +1 whistle +1 offerings)

#

cycle red, teleport back to start, bank

#

if you dont wanna bother fletching while running

#

which i dont

#

finally

vapid silo
next dust
#

dont need to bother with fletching or using a log bag

#

while running

#

just pre-fletch and leave them in bank

#

or with woodsman yk

vapid silo
#

more frequent banking?

next dust
#

you just bank half way. make 16 (redwood staves) and 4 logs

#

do 4, then bank, then another 4 in reverse

#

then back and over. i actually go FASTER than the ents

#

(they have one charge left to collect)

austere mirage
#

it hurt

#

it hurts us

vapid silo
#

I fletch while running but it is interesting

torpid current
#

isnt that a bad thing, dont u have to wait for them to refletch

scenic garden
#

gimme the gloves you stupid bug

weary shadow
#

Ironwood makes running while fletching a bit annoying as they don't finish by the time I get back 🙁

#

But upside to your method, you can fletch ironwood shields if you wanted

scenic garden
#

this is leagues, how are you getting ironwood?

weary shadow
#

Redwood sorry

#

And transmute

scenic garden
#

I don't think ironwood shields are a thing anyways lol

next dust
#

id just do fletching at the bank haha

#

less brainpower

weary shadow
#

Been leveling my sailing again, got ironwood on the mind

next dust
#

what is a "sturdy harness"?

#

for log brace?

vapid silo
#

yea

austere mirage
#

B-but i killed blood moon! so i get blood moon item right?

#

RIGHT?! ||where is it?!||

next dust
#

what is wrong?

scenic garden
#

oh I have the levels to make a spirit tree in my house

vapid silo
#

rather, you need log brace for the harness

#

and then use the harness to attach log basket to the forestry kit

next dust
#

what is a sturdy harness?

#

i never did this on live

rare hollow
#

you need to smith it

vapid silo
#

[[sturdy harness]]

obsidian bluffBOT
next dust
#

cause it's a downgrade

vapid silo
#

you need to craft it with the log brace

rare hollow
#

used to be a downgrade but they made some changes to it or something

#

regardless tho its still pointless imo

torpid current
#

they changed it?

potent quail
austere mirage
#

Nope

rare hollow
#

Prior to the 23 July 2025 QoL update[1], most players opted not to make the Forestry Basket because it had to be unequipped to bank their logs. However, this update now allows players to empty a filled log basket without clicking through multiple menus.

austere mirage
#

just blood moon

torpid current
#

wat

potent quail
torpid current
#

u sure u didnt kil eclipse then leave the chest

#

then come back later and kill blood

rare hollow
#

just kill all the moons

#

this isnt barrows

weary shadow
#

Nice

potent quail
#

If you only care for the armord

You can stop killing the moons you got the full set for

weary shadow
#

Did you start just doing the ones you wanted after completing a set or all 3?

next dust
#

why cannot we craft nails at anvil

austere mirage
potent quail
#

So gilded didnt had to kill eclipse or blood moon later on

austere mirage
#

i looked at the items and saw blood was Melee so i just went for that

torpid current
#

huh, that is weird

rare hollow
#

i didnt have to but i killed all 3 to roll for the unique table more often

potent quail
rare hollow
#

if you say so man

#

the evidence is there

vapid silo
next dust
#

we need to go buy nails

#

we cant craft them

vapid silo
#

we can smith them

potent quail
# rare hollow if you say so man

So killing eclipse blood and blue

Doesnt give you more chances to give you blue set then just killing blue

It does tive you x6 the normal itmes though

rare hollow
#

if i killed all 3 moons for 41 chests that means 123 moons

next dust
#

i couldnt smith steel

#

i didnt see it

torpid current
#

what i swear its dependant on what u kill

rare hollow
#

yeah that means i roll more often for unique table

#

that prevents the doggy regular table from showing up more often

vapid silo
#

Steel nails are nails made with a steel bar on an anvil with a hammer in the player's inventory, requiring 34 Smithing, yielding 15 steel nails and granting 37.5 Smithing experience per bar.

potent quail
rare hollow
#

we had this argument yday

#

and i dont care much for it today

#

this is the last thing i can tell you

potent quail
#

Thats for the standard loot

#

It isnt bad to kill all 3

#

Barrows is basicly mandatory to kill all 6
Works different there

#

Moons is optionsl

torpid current
#

i dont understand how is it different, both drop the uniques based on which u kill

timber quest
#

Ye if that was giving multiple armour rolls we would see double chests with the same set

night pier
austere mirage
#

Oh wait!

#

That was eclipse?

torpid current
#

lol

austere mirage
#

turns out i got lost and went into the wrong room

torpid current
#

xD

rare hollow
#

dont u have evil eye

austere mirage
#

wait that is blood like then?!

forest ice
# rare hollow

it says 3 moons give you 6 rolls of regular loot, not 6 rolls of unique item loot 🙂

austere mirage
#

nah i aint a bosser

torpid current
rare hollow
#

oh how lame

austere mirage
#

NOOOOOOooooooooooooooooooo!

torpid current
#

just have high def and u will be fine

#

its only hard because it heals a lot if u have low def

austere mirage
#

86 with Guthix rune?

torpid current
#

do u have a shield

forest ice
#

86 what?

torpid current
#

def

austere mirage
#

yeah, i was using twin suphur before

#

so is a rune shield better?

torpid current
#

yeah use a shield and a 1h slash weapon for blood

austere mirage
#

Hmmmm dragon long?

torpid current
#

sure

forest ice
potent quail
#

Very oldkekw
They made it better at moons

austere mirage
#

unless i can get my range up to 70 then i can slap the helm on and get blind bag

potent quail
scenic garden
#

I love this game sometimes

austere mirage
#

You monster!

#

now either i am rolling stupidly good on getting ammo or they is a glitch

#

i started with 50 adament and now i have 102

night pier
tacit oyster
#

ammo already has base 80% saving even in main game without ammo regen

#

they just drop on floor if you have nothing that auto retrieves them

scenic garden
tacit oyster
#

20% chance for ammo to break, 80% for ammo to not break. Without avas, quiver, range cape or max cape they will drop on floor

scenic garden
#

where are you seeing this info?

#

cause I have droped all of my ammo without avas

tacit oyster
#

could be that it remembers using quiver on ava's from previous league but at least for me it has the ammo pickup on it

#

but it doesnt change the fact that ammo only has 20% chance to break and 80% to save/retrieve

austere mirage
#

its not much, but its honest work

timber quest
#

He gamin

scenic garden
#

I see a 20% chance to save arrows on the wiki, that I previously didn't know about, but not ranged ammo in general by default

austere mirage
#

i need a quiver

scenic garden
#

and I highly doubt there's enough spaghetti for the game to not recognise you no longer have a quiver on

austere mirage
#

cant touch this

#

Sooooo they just had others walk around and slap me in the face

manic prairie
#

for multi jads

timber quest
#

They got ops on speed dial haha

manic prairie
#

when is the damage set?

timber quest
#

Calcs on hit

manic prairie
#

like by when do i have to pray

timber quest
#

Prayer needs to be up before impact yee

manic prairie
#

before it lands? or in a certain part of the animation

austere mirage
#

so just before it hits you

#

pray then

#

so i imagine you can do the whole fight if you prayer flick right

#

good luck

manic prairie
#

i want a bulwakr

timber quest
#

Just checking you know never to go into melee range too right?

manic prairie
#

i want to be able to agro like 40 healers at once

timber quest
#

Their attack cooldown for melee is 4ticks instead of.. 7? Maybe 8so it throws everything out

manic prairie
#

melee on regular jad is the same cooldown

#

but still i know

timber quest
#

Sweet gl dude

potent quail
timber quest
#

Wait shit yeah I was so dumb and totally wrong

potent quail
timber quest
#

Totally totally wrong lmao

potent quail
timber quest
#

There is, nox go brrr xD

tacit oyster
#

multi jads still need to pray before the projectile is out but at certain jad counts their attack speed changes

#

first time doing leagues special challenge and the last jad randomly starts rapid firing at you kekw

potent quail
tacit oyster
#

The remaining Jad will also have its Attack speed increased from 8 ticks to 4 ticks until it is defeated. During this phase, if the Unbound JalTok-Jad deals two magic attacks in a row, the second attack animation will not play.

#

2 mage attacks in row and the 1st animation hides the 2nd one scronglydespair

next dust
#

new bis

misty sigil
#

second nox hally before fang...

next dust
#

lucky impling on leagues

#

just a rune helm h1

austere mirage
#

damn mages stealing my kills

weary shadow
#

Where you at, and what world?

austere mirage
#

Sulpher Naguas

#

i just jumped world again, again

weary shadow
#

Ohhh you doing afk RCing ?

manic prairie
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do niblers just stop if all the pillars die?

weary shadow
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They attack you

manic prairie
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thats fine

austere mirage
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yeah trying to, as well as getting range up

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going for 75 range

weary shadow
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How far are you through your pacts/ relics / zones?

austere mirage
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1 zone only

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like 6 relics

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5 pacts

weary shadow
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Are you self imposing any limits?

austere mirage
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yep

weary shadow
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Ahh cool

austere mirage
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not allowed out of Varlamore

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on my main i got all the areas i could but then got choice paralyzed

weary shadow
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take the 3 you didn't take 😛

austere mirage
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nah, it will end up the same

next dust
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cringe?

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no woodcutting guild tp

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no mining guild tp

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why not

tacit oyster
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because it only has teleports that are on skill capes

torpid current
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does burn interact with the fire magic tree at all whatsoever? im guessing not looking at the descriptions but just wanted to check

austere mirage
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I cast Chinchoppa to your face!

tacit oyster
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if you mean burns like drygore blowpipe, eclipse set or arkan blade then no

torpid current
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yea thats what i meant, thank u

austere mirage
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i should have been using the chinchoppers sooner

next dust
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2 birds 1 stone i spose

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master clue task + 50 law runes task

past forge
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visage grind continues today

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for better or worse

timber quest
austere mirage
austere mirage
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its range gear, and chinchoppas

timber quest
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Aaah I see

austere mirage
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the perks are all thorns

timber quest
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Im tempted to respec into thrown just to see if it's fun for more than 5 mins