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reload into flow state
But king's barrage got me afking already
are most dragon players doing all of these? im reading them and while they're possible, some seem like quite a grind
theres plenty of value there
Not really, tbh
Some aren't too bad
Outside of Varlamore and Karamja, where can I use larcenist for value?
the inferno ones look like something I'd want to respect in to make it easier
tiran is the most value for larcenist
by far
gem stalls are like 6mil/hr
In a WZA King's Barrage setup*
WZA are not T 
if you did have T somewhere it would be 100%
Yeah but for 200m skill accord and tithe is 200m skill solved in like 30 minutes
So larc loses in that race for my setup
larcenist also solves smithing and crafting, and iirc there's a "3 50M skill" task
yea
on top of the multiple 25, 35, 50 xp tasks for each
on top of infinite money and 200 theiving
larcenist is more of a skilling thing than combat
As a dragon I can tell you I did all those except for doom
im skipping the combat achievements part
Is there any point in the light weapons getting extra specs if Im not getting dclaws? Dda already double hits without spec, and its 2t instead of whatever the spec is
but im not dragon
I guess it all comes to your playstyle
I went straight for anything combat achievement related
someone here got to dragon rank without getting all 40 pacts he had only 37
i think if i hit 300kc with no virtus bottom ill move on from vard regardless
so its doable
maybe come back in the future
Yeah I'm at the opposite side of the spectrum, I got all 45 possible pact points but my skills were pathetic
Like I had to lamp fishing to get it to 80
not to sound like mr "there's jack shit to do in leagues despite not unlocking my 2nd area" yesterday but I do feel like I am between a rock and a hard place. not rn, but once I get 50M in all of my skills, do the rest of the content (shades, tob, nightmare), and work on my medium/hard tasks I think I might be stuck
And didn't even hit base 80
im bored of leagues now :/ 66k pts
just worried I might not be skilled enough for dragon cause truth be known im not a great pvmer
wait u dont even have all areas yet
You already did pretty tough content in your first tries, like those jad challenges
I think you'll be fine
nah the guy yesterday
i hope 
cause im not even doing some of the shit ur doing cause i know the cas and im like
"yea nope im too lazy"
For sure 
i'll see. ima probably prog nightmare for now and tob after
nice
rather than trying to chase combat masteries
nightmare is something I have to do solo and tob isn't right?
how so? 
phosani nightmare is solo
i gotta take an Extended Break from bossing once i hit 300 vard kc im getting burn out 
phosanis is solo, u can do nightmare in teams if u want a chill time
i mean like if u arent 40 pacts go for 40 pacts so u can maximize ur dps*
That's a lot of kcs
oh i am 40 pacts 
253 rn
i should respec soon
254 now
For some reason I clicked on the cat and my discord nearly crashed
cause my setup is somewhat half assed and "engineered" for gauntlet
the cat of BSOD
did 3 of those and sitting at 75k points, you're fine
No you'll explode
in leagues probably phosanis? hmm for sure yea
u could probably just look up a basic guide first
i learned how to nightmare not main game but via leagues during leagues 2
lmao
blind it is 
so i did learn it but my god the stark difference between main game and leagues is
just have to find it first cause iirc it's in a cave or something
Wait are you sure? Ok I'm not held accountable btw
💀
yea cause they could do normal nightmare with randoms
and get their foot wet learning it
phosanis absolutely will have the parasite rip them apart
Wait read what you said lol
ooops
oh no
They already went for it
maybe if I believe very hard I can do it 
theres blood on my hands
nvm I lost already
ive gotten mac killed

Damn I was gonna say that guy does drugs but the message got blocked
That's why he needs 10k
I mean look at him
i started with 800 dragon knives at gemstone crab
this morning
now i have 10 thousand
Homie could buy 5000 beers with that cash
regen op
How much is a can of beer in the UK? Maybe we can work out how much 1gp would be irl
I was thinking about doing that with onyx bolts
You can already do that
Depends, we talking pints or cans
Wait how
A pint is like, £5
Yeah but isn't asgarnian ale like a cheap quality beer?
Even if it's served on a glass
Like there's literally a dwarf giving it out for free
Damn rich kid
ver sinhaza tp and run up
Meanwhile we just have to settle with the Old Nite
i get all my money from visiting yama and robbing him daily
i do wonder tho
how npcs feel about our characters
That IS for the cheap stuff
holding unimaginable wealth
Our beer prices are screwed here
Bonds have a fixed real world value.
9.99 USD, pre tax, per bond
if u talk to the npcs apparently like a months worth of salary for a guard in varrock is like 500 gold or something or less
Wtf, here I can get a large can of "decent" beer for 1/5th that price lol
With large can I mean something we call here bazooka
all beer is straight ass 
Bonds currently sell for about 14.9m gp
It's so good wdym
No but that's like real value I meant like lore value
i cant believe people get drunk off piss water and pay extra for it!/joke
Idk, my generation goes to the pub less, so I assume pubs up the price to continue making profits
alcohol in general tastes kinda awful to begin with but beer is among the worst
Well I've read that worldwide people are drinking less. Kids barely drink anything
like i would genuinely rather drink tequila straight
i dont drink at all

What about wine
hit or miss
i just think "why do i wanna risk getting addcited to alchohol when it tastes like piss"
it touched me in a way i didn't like :(
i like some sparkling wines, some random reds, extremely sweet wines, but a lot of wine is just bad too
No you're not gonna get addicted just by drinking it don't worry lol
speak for yourself
one more time?
yeah
Yeah that works
There's some then
i have a sweet tooth and dont really drink but someone recommended me cider, is that any good?
i prefer mixed drinks and stuff like baileys
Ngl, I actually really like beer
really good cider is good
:o
some cider just tastes like beer
Uhh well you probably won't like it if I'm honest, but yeah as they said it's gotta be a really good one
have you had baileys or malibu rum?
To make it passable
how good does it have to be for u to feel like its like drinking apple juice
but u can get drunk off it

TECHNICALLY thats bad cider by most standards, good cider has accentuated notes of apple but still tastes like alcohol
i see
Interesting
oh oh theres this one coffee alchohol drink i saw some guy have that looks really good, something expresso martini?
martinellis has hard cider though that i think tastes like apple juice basically? from what ive heard
Tell us how you do 
Baileys is good, but every time I look at the calories it makes me think twice
espresso martinis are SO GOOD
i do too
if calories are a concern, look away from alcohol in general 
id definitely recommend espresso martinis then theyre super good
How bad of an idea would it be to go into pnm blind and just hope that Water Thorns carries..?
jsut a casual 10 hour flight to one or few hour to the other jaja
Balieys are another beast entirely, it's crazy
a wellmade lemon drop is also EXTREMELY good if you like lemon flavoured stuff
the punishes hurt but i dont think u can actually 188>0 there.
I had once espresso with cognac, and another one with schnaps, and both were good. It's almost like you can put anything on it
the espresso pretty much cancels out the alcohol flavour entirely
And gives it an extra kick
yurp
Do I need to bring Sanfew Serums..? I know that they're used for something in the Nightmare fight, but no idea what or if it's something I can just heal through..
the parasite
she can get u pregnant
you can heal through it but it slows you down
and sanfews help with the birth
:)
otherwise the parasite will rip right out of you
and u will take 85 damage
Yeah as she says you get pregnant and it comes straight out from the womb
Using that analogy, aren't the sanfews uh... "getting rid" of the "child"?
I have 116 doses of Sanfew from Kraken kills..
sanfew plan b
its the morning after pill
duh
jokes aside
oh yeah you can buy relicyms
that mechanic is kinda ass
next kc pill
its just "drink potion so u dont eat 85 damage"
i think nightmare is kinda fun to do tbh
It's your nightmare?
but like the rewards
fucking chaos ele
are so dogshit
i hate it so much
man i gotta get a new mouse just for bossing
it keeps teleporting me so far away it stops fighting me
well give it a go and see how it is
bluds gonna get 2 shot
1/20 btw (just complaining so it drops)
Maybe! that's the good thing about leagues though, its a zero-risk environment
i still dont get why phosanis is the solo boss but has way more health than the mp fight
if you die, you die, congratulations, all of your shit respawns right next to you and you won't do whatever got you killed again
reg nightmare has more hp
actually
theres a reason why the grandmaster time for regular nightmare
is 16 minutes
vs like 4-5min or whatever for pnm
at least as far as solos go
I still remember my first solo nightmare kc lasted 46 minutes
reg nightmare can be done in a team
my question is
how did u have enough supplies to last for 46 minutes
wtf
2400 v 3200? theres a whole extra phase
why. am i. at scorpia.
chaos ele 'esplain
im not sure then cause pnm is like a 4-5min fight
and reg nightmare solo is a 15-20min fight
idk if pnm is squisher/easier to hit then
coming up on 1500 dragoons !*
it looks like some bullshit with charging totems on the normal version
Pillars
so it feels like it has way more overall hp
They have WAY less health
And also
Parasite from regular nightmare heals like 10x more
Yeah you can two shot a pillar with a shadow on pnm but on regular it's multiple shots each
That's already like 3 minute gone
i really hated the sleepwalkers
watching vard touch me and then get hit by like 7 hitsplats at once is really funny
they move so fast
he's trying to tickle you
man, kbd cbow hitting like 12 hitsplats is the most satisfying thing i have ever seen in this game
imagine if the "no more being teleported" scroll from zombie pirate chest worked on chaos ele
what a world that would be
yay 
I have, in fact, been 188->0'd..
Does "ice spells count as water spells" mean ice spells benefit from the elemental weakness of enemies too?
i believe theres a pact that makes ice spell count as water
I assume so. I think it's more that you benefit from the overheal boost
gzzzzz
It matters more to me cause no shadowflame, means cerb is nicer
And tzhaars
im gonna fight the real thing now 
Getting there
guys zulrah is bullying me
wont stop giving me tridents instead of visage
just hit 300kc ive gotten 3 tridents 2 fangs lol
Abyssal sires are pretty bad too, think it's taken me about 6 hours today to get 300?
Did you get it bugged at some point?
in no world could i be convinced to do sire 300kc
It's either 200 nex or 300 sires rn for me, can assume which I chose
oh yea but at least sire gives a shit ton of points
bludgeon, dagger, pet chance, jar chance, 150 300 kc cas, and achievements for another 200
it has high point potential
sire cas are also fast and easy
About 50-55 seconds for me 😢
:/
Even cerb is quicker, doing her in about 25s rn
bout to start working on jad combat achieves
why would i care, game
Awesome
I’m so terrible at this game if I can’t even do this
Mobile gets a pass
I’m just trying to learn it before I get to my PC and maybe like edge out a kill
wowie my first try 
I have the tile pack installed
next round u can do it
+1 pact point even tho u cant use it
Gamer
Yeah

I'm out of here before I get banned again
Ok so now that gou got phosani whats next
Phosani league only challenge??
The socks
well there's at least 800 points
the sockker
+200
every time i get a ding and its another awakeners orb i get closer to evaporating someone
how about nightmare staff+ orb
yea
:D
yeah 
I should probably prog tob first for sang staff
i assume I can clear nightmare just fine with justi + sang alongside this
well... when I pick up the rest of my gear 
well u also got the option
there we go
true. i was waiting for a friend, but I think they dipped from leagues
Nightmare has been killed.. Only took, like, three attempts..
Gods, this fight is awful..
I get the entire shoes right?
cause of leagues
now imagine learning pnm main game , dying and then having to run all the way from lumbridge back to nightmare to collect my gear
that was my experience learning main game
yes
Sixteen fucking minutes is the Grandmaster Speedrun achievement for solo kills..?
yes
yea cause reg nightmare is meant for teams
im guessing this is the toughest CA for sol?
Does blessing work with quadrant?
i think so. i havent tested it ngl
Nope.. Powered staves (and melee) only..
It's +5 prayer, though, so still nice if you don't have anything else to put in the ammo slot..
i should really get sang in that case
i think I have enough sustain with what I have
but first I can practice coloseum and maybe get my CAs
Yup. Manticore mayhem also speeds up your runs if you run thorns 
hmm, it seemed like it did for 2
unless maybe my minion just aoed
so how do I deal with manticores for the CA? normally I just tank them. do they spawn in a predictable pattern or do I just need to move around the pillar at all costs?
Well 50 hunter rumours is a task, and once you get masters they are quite fast and good exp
Btw for hunter runours
I think there might be a way to only get falconry on the elite master
Will look into that tomorrow
May be the meta for the 50 hunter rumour tasks and feed
place your bets on if i get virtus in the last 5
First try..
what im gathering here is pnm is easier
It very much is just because the shield and HP bars are smaller..
The most annoying part of regular Nightmare is just how fucking long it was..
Longer fight = More mechanics..
I finally got the ranger boots and infity boots, but Cerb is like "nah have some dups"
Hooray

no final virtus piece but idgaf 
Congrats..
I’ve traded one red colored torture another
Less than 3,000 points to go..


ih nvm i wasnt even close
is glory a currency that sticks with me or is it like a high score?
nicee
It's a hiscore
so basically the best way to get 58k glory is to just max out modifiers every time?
Yeah you basically wanna start with solarflare
And max it out
After that you should focus on speedrunning
oh okay i thought glory was soley based on mods
Don't worry about glory perfect modifiers. Solarflare is good enough
As early as possible
It's based on mods, speed, and whether you had a perfect wave or not
i see, looks like dmg is a factor but I assume that's impossible
what is a "way to traverse the shadow realm" referring to when interacting w the whisperer
I mean you might wanna go for wave 1 perfect
And maybe wave 4
Ah, and perfect Sol gives the most points out of all the perfects
But tbh you can get away with 1 perfect
Every time you click on the black fragment you travell to the shadow realm
Blackstone Fragment..
The blackstone fragment is a modified shard of the ancient pillar found in the Lassar Undercity. It is obtained from Ketla after showing her the ring of visibility during Desert Treasure II - The Fallen Empire. During the quest, it is used to instantly leave the Shadow Realm within the Lassar Undercity upon activating it. It can be also used to ...
On the city it's laying on a table
So where the boss is, go to the opposite side (I forgot the cardinal direction)
And there's a house in that little plaza
Hello guys, is there a way to remove the magic trees from my patch faster apart from cutting it? I'm like more than 5 min trying to remove it
you can pay the guy to remove it
do i lose glory over time when in the modifer selectio nscreen?
the one that stands near the plot/protects it
Do you have endless harvest?
yes
I think some patches it doesn't damage the tree when you cut it
ohhh
The Faldor one is cuttable now (one of the diary task requires it) , but otherwise I just pay for the guy to delete the trees
Does anyone have any idea why flask of fervour doesnt do damage to spindel or the spiderlings?

wtf do i do to avoid sanity drain
blackstone fragment
that does not elaborate at all
i mean i know to Use it but like
what the hell do i do with it
Depends on the mechanic
pillars i know seed i kind of get the ghosts i have no idea whats happening
First part dodge the X root things that attack you
ghosts kill all that say the same thing (pick 1 word)
ghosts, kill all of one style, orbs, get the glowy ones
you do not have to stay in shadow realm for orbs or pillars
you can flash in and out
pillars, stand behind the 1/3 near a 2/3 and a 3/3 (Don't attack)
i see
It's not my favourite leagues fight
i got her down to a quarter and then went insane and got obliterated
attacking during pillars is still faster overall but it is more dangerous if you attack and get hit by a wave
It is, but when someone is new, best to recommend safety as the -40 sanity because your character autopaths into the bad is not fun.
yeah, I was explaining the process but that you shouldn't probably do it unless you're comfortable
i'm still hunting the GM time
(maingame)
do i lose glory per tick in between rounds (when im picking modifiers)?
No.
glory is only earned during the wave
as far as I recall
leaving after a wave and your glory is set to what it was at the end of the previous wave
even if you wait before leaving
okie dokie ty
gl
oh come the fuck on
She sucks
the ghosts are nonsensical i dont really get them because theres not enough time to kill the ones saying the same thing
Specially if you took bank TP
the rest is whatever
good thing no one took bank tp 
The ghosts are just annoying
Can confirm even if you took Desert Cerb drops the completed Eternal Boots
Are we deadass
Are you doing this for pact point?
no
idgaf about that i just wanted the one kill point
Which it counted so
i successfully did the ghosts and still took 40 sanity for no clear reason
Which ghosts did you kill..?
Killing those just deals damage to Whisperer..

Sanitas are the ones that deal Sanity damage (or heal your Sanity if you kill them)..
dumb
Don't matter now
probably will when i inevitably get hungry for pact points though and go for the ring

You having issuers with the boss?
not anymore
uhg, Kandarin Diary. wouldn't be so bad but I hate the barbarian assault
oh hey
gzzzz
Grats!
that just leaves ranged now

get itttt
which modifer? thinking bees or totem
totem
yeah thought so
cuz it lets you gigaheal
cuz your attack speed will be super fast against the totem
youll regen like 40
its funny
oh so do I let the totem live?
yes
im sure its not afkable but Surely its gonna be a breeze now
colo is doable even without it
its mostly afkable
if youre not taht overgeared then you may need to move on the javs and pray minos
besides taht its free
i beat colo without having a shield on by accident 
do I let the totem live to outdps it or do i attack it like normal?
any recommended modifiers?
And don't take Doom
any visage grinders
or bees
literally anything but doom or fragility is fine
also if you dont want to worry about venom dont pick that modifier
frailty
Woops, getting burnt out with leagues again lol
Frailty

Carry a few super antivenoms or antiposions just in case as the venom does suck
foolish
i have no mouth and therefore i cannot scream
World 354 is a normal world though
Ah lol
wait, how do I recharge my echo boots 
Dearest Task creators, please in future don't do a triple RNG special for pact points... these Cerb boots are killing my soul.
Get new ones

I wish I was kidding
RNG get Medium Clues, into RNG get Ranger Boots, into RNG get Cerb to drop them with no dup protection or dry protection....
I lost my Lithic Sceptre and got it back on exactly 50kc. Does the pity rate re-pity you after losing an item or was that just a coincidence?
is medium only one that drops boots?
Yes... sadly
ive done 53 no bootss ugh
The Eclectic impling in Puro-Puro are your best way to get them, but it was over 3 hours of standing there and catching them for 50 ish ...
i have good way to get scrolls i have relic and zones i need
whew, fight caves achievements completed
If you have Larc that is a good shout, but I didn't have any luck on gnomes without it 🙁
hey nice gzz!!
Next time, I will take Larc
if I could keybind my prayers these flicks would be infinitely easier
Keybinds (and on screen rebindable buttons for mobile) would make the game a lot better for people who didn't grow up on OSRS
I came from RS3 for Gridmaster and the keybinds are the main reason I can do pvm there at all
is there a BA world? 666 is dead
here you're expected to deal with 10x as many mechanics with none of the controls
Sort by pop and jump till you find the pack of 50 people
I'd settle for better ping (in the Asian regions) in the short term as 150ping does make a different for the more sensitive pray timings.
F keys can only get you so far
ok wow
colo really is poor bastard exploded territory
they just melt
last time i tried this the uhhhh thingy things killed me
the weird lion guys i forget the name of
they scare me
The Manticore or the Jaguar?
manticore
if I ayak spec vard before the fight, will he still be debuffed when the fight starts?
should be
we go agane tm
why am I drunk?
Too much Zammy Wine?
there is no world wherein this is afkable i just got completely obliterated
maybe im missing something
it's not
Colli?
colo
yes
like im talking back to back 40 hitsplats obliterated
should i be using melee tank armour or something
Are you water thorns?
yes
it's not even afk with water thorns lol
Then yes, you should be using as much armor as you can
luckiest unluck ive had
So I’ve seen mention that to get the ring of charos, you have to go to the bottom of the well on Harmony island. But that says I need the diving apparatus. Where do I get either of them?
just got a second champion scroll
But it's not afkable as you have to move from the puddles and prayer change a bit.
it's only afk if you think taking your hand off the keyboard for more than a tick is afk
Well where is the doctor? I can’t find him in his castle
Thank you. I totally missed that ladder
You don't need it
i.. kind of do? i sort of need to heal
Staff heals on regen as well as hit.
the fact that im dropping below 99hp is probably not great
I usually hit around 80 before the little vikings die then climb back up.
yeah no im dropping way below that After the vikings die
again i must be missing something
What things did you take?
"things"?
Modifiers
dont recall
the javelin pooling one, the prayer drain one, avoiding doom, healing totems and frailty
Frailty, Volatility and Relentless can be a bit nasty if you go past silver
yeah ive been avoiding those
maybe my build just isnt fleshed out enough yet
im only at 27 pacts
What ones have you taken so far?
Plan what you will choose in Leagues VI using our Demonic Pacts tree.
Ah your regen isn't over 100% yet, so that might be why the healing isn't as great for you
You also want that healing thorns one, if you can get it
OH
why are gold rings even a drop from vard? and why do I get the rare item tink from that?
no wonder my healing is so stunted omfg
But in 3 pact points you should be good
two false rolls before the ultor ring
it drops 1 gold, then 2 gold, then ultor
dumb system
It is not fun at all...
anyways i rerolled out of waterthorns and then back into waterthorns and i guess i forgot to grab the thorns healing pact
Until you are told about it, it feels like you are being trolled by the game
Which Is Why My Healing Sucks
so I watched a video on how to do tob, and I assume with leagues it's a lot easier to do, but im not sure how much easier. for verzik's p3 I imagine water thorns is pretty bad there. i also imagine we still need a melee, range, and magic weapon
What zones do you have? You might have some less easy, but still not hard to get ones
me or them?
Them
a lot of us here have our regions in our nicks ^
i need to do the uhhhh mith dragon and kraken boss ones
Water thorns is pretty chill in verzik, just don't stand in the tornados
ill probably do mith dragon then go kill echo cerb for another point
Oh Mith dragon is super easy
If you attempt the mechanics, you'll most likely be fine
Echo Cerb sucks
yeah i just dont wanna do fuckin barbarian training 
well before it was invisible apparently
so i guess its better than that?
nonetheless a dumb system
it's already a 1/136 chance of hitting the unique table, is that not enough rng?
Like you'd get normal loot + invisible roll
So you had no idea how close or not close you were
During leagues, maybe

what about the different attack styles? tbh I forgot which is ideal for each scenario but it seems like melee is the best most of the time besides stuff like nylos
not sure if prayer pen let's you kill all nylos
Rings are now dropped to he visualize what used to be invisible 🤣
The problem is that you are far more likely to roll an ingot than anything useful
Saying good boy you are close.
and that is where that rng should stop
no need for 2 extra forced rolls for a drop
where is the post jagex put out that showed the most popular relics/areas? i cant find it
ther youtube channel
it was a video
just dont splash 
I can't do western diaries 🙁 Need to kill zulrah and stuff without the area
magic has to roll dmg on vard to activate the fight
does the range echo pact work with the mele range echo pact
pray range against his head to avoid prayer disable lol
I know but I'm too busy dodgeing 3 axes and a thorn coming for my ass
Pray pen doesn't work on nylos, I like to bring an extra style, but bringing all 3 wouldn't hurt. Usually people bring extra styles
there's no safespot
Safe-ish spot
it minimizes damage and avoids some attacks entirely
pray melee, pray range when head, then back to melee
its Extremely free
for "correct styles" on other bosses, idk I just mage everything
I've heard melee is good for bloat but I still just mage and it does fine
you WILL take damage from the axes and some of vard's attacks but it will be a lot less and you should mostly outheal with thorns and have time to heal regardless
vard was free with water thorns, havent tried awakened tho
this is normal i think
he put 3/4 axes in this "safespot" in that last fight
not awakened
yeah and its negligible
Vard is one of those fights that once you learn how/when/where to click, it makes sense
they do like 12 damage each with melee prayed
just heal when you get low and youre fine
idk about your definition of "safe"
sounds alot like this definition of "afk" i'm hearing
you are going to take a hell of a lot less damage between those pillars than you are anywhere else in the arena
that is "safe"
i'd probably bring blade of sael just to be safe then, especially since the echo blessing works really well with it on top of my other gear (suffering, blood fury, infernal cape)
i also don't have a definition for afk if youre referring to what i said about colo, that was @tawdry carbon that implied i could afk colo with waterthorns 
yep good to have. I bring tent and usually end up meleeing the nylos lol
more styles = faster nylo room in general
It's more safe than standing in the middle of the arena
you can.. if you have enough gear
i dont have enough pacts is my issue, not gear
im wondering if tob is just full of water magers or not 😭
well I still take damage so it's not gonna get me the perfect vard ca
then yea u will have to play a bit
not sure if that's going to be a problem
def is lol
oof
itll get you everything else though
Well
perfect vard is just going to require you to git gud i fear
I guess it's not the end of the world though. probably a lot of blindbaggers and wildy crossbows (forgot the build name)
It won't get the axe enthusiast one
i don't have that either cause im not good at game and thus didnt try 
But that CA is dumb.
i got it
god this achievment is just a big miserable rngfest
oh wait no
it Definitely isnt
it is
cause you can get it one round then oh look he spawns an axe right on top of you that you can't avoid
https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Vardorvis/Strategies the strategy guide goes over Exactly how to avoid every single attack vardorvis has
because its not rng
You can though
It's called axe skipping
There's a small window after the axe spawns before it actually hits you
Putting it all together in a single run is why it's a CA to get a perfect kill
complaining that something is impossible while having not looked into it literally at all is absurd
178/200 cerb kills for this task and still no ranger boot upgrade 🙁
Sometimes it just doesn't work. But most of the time it does
I did nearly 1k cerb in leagues 2 and never got a primordial
apologies for not learning every tick perfect tech
meanwhile thats All ive gotten 
its not an issue of having learned it its an issue of having evidently not even looked it up
I would trade if I could
how am I supposed to know about that to look it up?
if youre struggling with something fuckin google it theres a 90% chance its a skill issue
like
youre struggling w/ a boss.... most people watch youtube vids or read osrs wiki at least to learn more
Just Look Into Things bitching to us isn't going to instantly solve that for you
It is therapeutic though
I will say for Awaken Vard here was a much better resource that wiki or youtube
but coming in and going "i cant do this thing it must be entirely rng jagex y" isnt going to help
Still cannot work out Awaken Levi though
Prayers become basically unresponsive for me in the last 10%
That is a fair comment
Unless it is RNG of course lol
i cried in here after dying to echo amox 20+ times until i finally bothered to look it up and realized you need to move/atk/move/atk
so for future reference do yourself a favour and Google Shit before assuming its the hardest thing of all time
rest assured you will face harder than Vardorvis
I'm more puzzled by this then how to dodge the axes, cause when did I get the other 3?
Like Awakened Vard lol
he got perfect vard lmao
thought I barely managed 2

complaining works again
vard is a midgame boss in main game tbh, people do it with torags/ dragon scim
think I'd have to do it with rune or smth for one of the CAs
i ran all 300 of my kills with whip and dharok
idk what counts as under 2m
probably d scim and rune armour
is that ge value?
yes
Dragon Scimis are fairly cheap now
to clarify
Vard has 800 magic defense and no elemental weakness
its almost pointless to mage against him
he has 30% weakness with quadrant
How many matches was that Zuker?
and still 800 magic defense so youre going to be splashing 9/10 hits
1 full run per role is enough
its not worth it
With the max mini game boost
in league most of my damage to vard was from thorns. i splashed like 80% of all my water surges
Oh good then 3 more to go!
Because you also need 375 points in each role to buy the torso
Plus the points needed for lvl 5
hearing vard is basic bitch pvm hurts my soul tbh lmao, I cant do the awakened even tho i know the mechanics and normie vard is ez
awakened is Not basic bitch pvm for sure
I feel like having actually done awakened vard without cheesing with last stand, maybe I could actually do it main game
though i find normal vard hard too without the safespot and i cant imagine doing DT2 bosses outside of leagues
I think the difficulty for the awakened bosses is also because you need the orbs to try them, and there are mechanics that you just have to learn live, and with limited attempts that can be not easy to do.
lol doing DT2 quest in the main game, vard is the one that killed me the most learning it, but it was also the first one i did and i was overly cocky
awakened whisperer and awakened leviathan really made me wanna quit gridmaster last year, but i eventually managed w/ last stand
I died more to the mini/side bosses
Lmao
Regular Whispher is enough to make me nope out of the grind for it...
vard is the only one I could manage in gridmaster
I am very thankful that we got extra pact points
im so sad i missed out on gridmaster
whisperer was the hardest for me in main game DT2. actually had to buy a shadow for her
i hope they do gridmaster again
got awakened vard there but could barely get even normal kills on the other 3
Jagex likes money, so there is hope
gridmaster was super fun, but we all finished it in like 2 days
if jagex likes money so much they should do a 2mo gridmaster this time
is it possible to get magic secateurs with zeah, kandarin, morytania?
or is it asgarnia only?
Nah jagex likes making a quality product it's their upper ones that really like money (needless to say we all wanna get paid for our job)
Asg only but they're worthless with farming relic btw
one more pact point for beedog
if I'd had an extra month to figure out inferno and awakened bosses I might have gotten the board cleared back then
I tested and makes zero diff
Not really
but wanted to see if i can even get them
Secateurs have no effect with natures accord
oh
interesting
Like I used them for a while and never noticed more yield
now my healing shouldnt suck nearly as bad
yay free points 
2 more pact points as you get the even better healing too
Hey that's a good amount
well imo gridmaster was a quality product cause it let me actually have a chance at alot of bosses. I did alot of stuff that I didn't need to do for tiles.
4 more cerb to go, but no boots likely

also - what is the best fishing method? i got barbarian gathering and zeah+kandarin+morytania
barb fishing
that's awfully slow
i just afk karams (no barb fishing)
1,3m xp/h
I'm always looking forward to your progress it's like watching a series
It's a shame we can't get a private Cerb, else I'd be able to do something for 30 minutes and come back
me too 
fastest in maingame, so its fastest in leagues
technically 2t crabs is fastest, right?
Oh right I need to do that
i think tob is my next best step
I'm gonna be honest, I lamped it up and barely touched it. However I had abundance so I felt forced
super easy with water. pray mage the entire time and watch for the water
i mostly lamped smithing
I might hit normal odds for these boots at this rate
omg i thought iw as free
i really dislike tirannw content
HAWK TUAH
gauntlet is repetitive
went to prep for dying to another awakened vard, came in and got my health and pray capped on him, ayak spec'd twice, then I noticed the noted awakener orb is still in my inv >_>
gauntlet is the easiest echo boss this league
ffs
yeah, easy but just repetitive
now to wait another 5 mins for my spec to refill
I thought Echo Amox was with Thorns
echo hunllef is less click intensive
imo, from easiest to hardest it's Amoxliatl >>> Grotesque >>> Smoke >>> Gauntlet
for the regions I picked
With my regions it was: Amoxliatl >>> Hespori >>> Kalphite Queen >>> Cerberus
ok yeah this is way way way better i cant believe i missed thorns healing omfg
i didnt have thorns when i did amox. i had blindbag which sucked ass
finally
Haha nice
amox you can literally afk
peet
peet
ran out of tears lmao
echo therm took more learning attempts for me but once i learned it, i can do it flawlessly
echo hunllef i got it in like 2 tries
but i already knew the hunllef mechanics beforehand
echo thermy is suuuuuper easy to do perfectly
if you miss 1 hit after second orb hits you on enrage it's even freeier
In addition, defeating the boss perfectly will earn 50% more loot from the standard drop table.
What's the "standard drop table"? Just commons? Or is that a better chance at uniques too?
but it's very doable even without missing ticks
which boss
Commons
vard
That's for dt2 bosses
...all dt2 bosses have this?
echo kbd was also a joke, got that 1 on first try
All of them, but for some it's kinda pointless
The only one where you 100% gotta do perfects is whisperer
Because that 50% is a lot
Whereas with vardorvis it's like
50% more bronze javelins
You missed out on the extra 10% points for BA
50% more pure ess, mind runes
do charged staffs not work in barb assault?
Vardorvis loot is such a meme
They don't

Gotta tell us your areas
You need specific elemental spells
zeah, kandarin, morytania
i took barb gathering too and mining suucks
yeah, mining sucks
Looks like you are doing main game methods bro
afaik it's powermining iron to 99 and emptying the knapsack every 2 minutes
hehe
Did you take Asag?
i died to the BEES
i wish i'd taken asg for mlm
What does woodsman do again?
Lots of things
so iron ore powermine, barbarian fishing, sepulchre, ardy knights, mahogany planks from transmute
?
Nothing that helps those skills though
woodsman automatically banks hunter drops, burns logs automatically (toggleable)
Shooting stars if you want to afk mine a bit also works
Also is really powermining iron best option with barbarian? You get a big boost in success chance, there's gotta be a better ore idk...
surely yes
but idk which one
There is
mithril?
the rock respawn time was the issue imo
They're mega boosted tho
In leagues
Like
there arent any other rocks that respawn fast enough for you to not move? i tried doing gem mining for a while but thats slightly worse and it doesnt work with knapsack
Runite spawns in your face
i took barbarian and reloaded into endless harvest
Someone made a chart comparing the XP/hr of resources with barb
i just sat there and mined runite
wait, gemstone rocks don't work with knapsack?


