#leagues-general

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tawdry carbon
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friendly forager for the drip

tame flax
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reload into flow state

tawdry carbon
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i dont think u can

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tbh eternal sustenance fucks tho

livid slate
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But king's barrage got me afking already

harsh oyster
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id go larcenist personally

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larcenist is FUCKED its real good

livid slate
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My regions are WZA, though

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Not much value there

shrewd ermine
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are most dragon players doing all of these? im reading them and while they're possible, some seem like quite a grind

harsh oyster
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theres plenty of value there

livid slate
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Some aren't too bad

livid slate
shrewd ermine
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the inferno ones look like something I'd want to respect in to make it easier

shrewd ermine
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by far

harsh oyster
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gem stalls are like 6mil/hr

livid slate
harsh oyster
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no

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i mean the ufckin uhhhhhhhh

shrewd ermine
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if you did have T somewhere it would be 100%

livid slate
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So larc loses in that race for my setup

shrewd ermine
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larcenist also solves smithing and crafting, and iirc there's a "3 50M skill" task

harsh oyster
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yea

shrewd ermine
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on top of the multiple 25, 35, 50 xp tasks for each

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on top of infinite money and 200 theiving

livid slate
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I took larc for KTM and it was fantastic

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But I don't see much value in WZA

shrewd ermine
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larcenist is more of a skilling thing than combat

past birch
shrewd ermine
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guess I should get on that then

spring cipher
torpid trench
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Is there any point in the light weapons getting extra specs if Im not getting dclaws? Dda already double hits without spec, and its 2t instead of whatever the spec is

spring cipher
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but im not dragon

past birch
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I guess it all comes to your playstyle

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I went straight for anything combat achievement related

spring cipher
harsh oyster
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i think if i hit 300kc with no virtus bottom ill move on from vard regardless

spring cipher
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so its doable

harsh oyster
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maybe come back in the future

past birch
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Like I had to lamp fishing to get it to 80

shrewd ermine
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not to sound like mr "there's jack shit to do in leagues despite not unlocking my 2nd area" yesterday but I do feel like I am between a rock and a hard place. not rn, but once I get 50M in all of my skills, do the rest of the content (shades, tob, nightmare), and work on my medium/hard tasks I think I might be stuck

past birch
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And didn't even hit base 80

lone bloom
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im bored of leagues now :/ 66k pts

shrewd ermine
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just worried I might not be skilled enough for dragon cause truth be known im not a great pvmer

spring cipher
past birch
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I think you'll be fine

shrewd ermine
spring cipher
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oh

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well i think u can do it

shrewd ermine
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i hope blobcatloveuwu

spring cipher
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cause im not even doing some of the shit ur doing cause i know the cas and im like

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"yea nope im too lazy"

past birch
shrewd ermine
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i'll see. ima probably prog nightmare for now and tob after

spring cipher
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nice

shrewd ermine
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rather than trying to chase combat masteries

spring cipher
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combat masteries will cap out ur dps tho

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c:

shrewd ermine
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nightmare is something I have to do solo and tob isn't right?

shrewd ermine
past birch
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phosani nightmare is solo

harsh oyster
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i gotta take an Extended Break from bossing once i hit 300 vard kc im getting burn out histeria

spring cipher
spring cipher
spring cipher
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oh

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then yea u dont have to

shrewd ermine
harsh oyster
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253 rn

shrewd ermine
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i should respec soon

harsh oyster
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254 now

past birch
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For some reason I clicked on the cat and my discord nearly crashed

shrewd ermine
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cause my setup is somewhat half assed and "engineered" for gauntlet

shrewd ermine
past birch
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Wait I tried to copy it and it says this

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Imagen

night pier
shrewd ermine
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is nightmare something I can do blind?

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i heard it's tough

past birch
spring cipher
spring cipher
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u could probably just look up a basic guide first

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i learned how to nightmare not main game but via leagues during leagues 2

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lmao

shrewd ermine
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blind it is cutecat

spring cipher
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so i did learn it but my god the stark difference between main game and leagues is

shrewd ermine
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just have to find it first cause iirc it's in a cave or something

past birch
spring cipher
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💀

spring cipher
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and get their foot wet learning it

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phosanis absolutely will have the parasite rip them apart

past birch
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Wait read what you said lol

spring cipher
past birch
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You're trying to get poor mac killed

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!!

spring cipher
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oh no

past birch
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They already went for it

shrewd ermine
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maybe if I believe very hard I can do it blobcatloveuwu

shrewd ermine
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nvm I lost already

spring cipher
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ive gotten mac killed

shrewd ermine
past birch
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Damn I was gonna say that guy does drugs but the message got blocked

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That's why he needs 10k

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I mean look at him

spring cipher
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i started with 800 dragon knives at gemstone crab

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this morning

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now i have 10 thousand

fleet ibex
spring cipher
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regen op

spring cipher
past birch
toxic vortex
fleet ibex
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Depends, we talking pints or cans

past birch
shrewd ermine
fleet ibex
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A pint is like, £5

past birch
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Even if it's served on a glass

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Like there's literally a dwarf giving it out for free

spring cipher
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i only drink what they make in aldarin

past birch
night pier
past birch
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Meanwhile we just have to settle with the Old Nite

spring cipher
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i do wonder tho

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how npcs feel about our characters

fleet ibex
spring cipher
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holding unimaginable wealth

fleet ibex
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Our beer prices are screwed here

toxic vortex
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9.99 USD, pre tax, per bond

spring cipher
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if u talk to the npcs apparently like a months worth of salary for a guard in varrock is like 500 gold or something or less

past birch
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With large can I mean something we call here bazooka

harsh oyster
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all beer is straight ass vclassic

toxic vortex
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Bonds currently sell for about 14.9m gp

past birch
past birch
spring cipher
fleet ibex
harsh oyster
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alcohol in general tastes kinda awful to begin with but beer is among the worst

past birch
harsh oyster
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like i would genuinely rather drink tequila straight

spring cipher
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i dont drink at all

harsh oyster
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And I hate tequila

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but at least tequila doesn't taste like backwashed piss

shrewd ermine
harsh oyster
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hit or miss

spring cipher
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i just think "why do i wanna risk getting addcited to alchohol when it tastes like piss"

shrewd ermine
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it touched me in a way i didn't like :(

harsh oyster
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i like some sparkling wines, some random reds, extremely sweet wines, but a lot of wine is just bad too

past birch
harsh oyster
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speak for yourself

spring cipher
shrewd ermine
shrewd ermine
past birch
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There's some then

spring cipher
harsh oyster
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i prefer mixed drinks and stuff like baileys

fleet ibex
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Ngl, I actually really like beer

spring cipher
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:o

harsh oyster
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some cider just tastes like beer

past birch
harsh oyster
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have you had baileys or malibu rum?

past birch
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To make it passable

spring cipher
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but u can get drunk off it

harsh oyster
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TECHNICALLY thats bad cider by most standards, good cider has accentuated notes of apple but still tastes like alcohol

spring cipher
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i see

spring cipher
harsh oyster
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martinellis has hard cider though that i think tastes like apple juice basically? from what ive heard

past birch
fleet ibex
harsh oyster
spring cipher
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i love coffee

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so

tawdry carbon
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i do too

harsh oyster
tawdry carbon
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one of my favorite coffee shops is in trondheim the other is in portland

harsh oyster
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id definitely recommend espresso martinis then theyre super good

thorn marsh
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How bad of an idea would it be to go into pnm blind and just hope that Water Thorns carries..?

tawdry carbon
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jsut a casual 10 hour flight to one or few hour to the other jaja

fleet ibex
harsh oyster
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a wellmade lemon drop is also EXTREMELY good if you like lemon flavoured stuff

tawdry carbon
past birch
harsh oyster
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the espresso pretty much cancels out the alcohol flavour entirely

past birch
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And gives it an extra kick

harsh oyster
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yurp

thorn marsh
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Do I need to bring Sanfew Serums..? I know that they're used for something in the Nightmare fight, but no idea what or if it's something I can just heal through..

tame flax
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the parasite

tame flax
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you can heal through it but it slows you down

spring cipher
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and sanfews help with the birth

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:)

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otherwise the parasite will rip right out of you

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and u will take 85 damage

past birch
fleet ibex
past birch
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But you can also drink relicym balm

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Yeah you abort it

thorn marsh
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I have 116 doses of Sanfew from Kraken kills..

harsh oyster
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sanfew plan b

spring cipher
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duh

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jokes aside

tame flax
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oh yeah you can buy relicyms

spring cipher
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that mechanic is kinda ass

past birch
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next kc pill

tame flax
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its nightmare

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every mechanic in that fight is ass

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i loathe nightmare

spring cipher
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its just "drink potion so u dont eat 85 damage"

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i think nightmare is kinda fun to do tbh

fleet ibex
spring cipher
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but like the rewards

tame flax
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fucking chaos ele

spring cipher
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are so dogshit

tame flax
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i hate it so much

harsh oyster
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man i gotta get a new mouse just for bossing

tame flax
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it keeps teleporting me so far away it stops fighting me

spring cipher
tame flax
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bluds gonna get 2 shot

fleet ibex
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1/20 btw (just complaining so it drops)

harsh oyster
tame flax
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i still dont get why phosanis is the solo boss but has way more health than the mp fight

harsh oyster
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if you die, you die, congratulations, all of your shit respawns right next to you and you won't do whatever got you killed again

spring cipher
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actually

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theres a reason why the grandmaster time for regular nightmare

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is 16 minutes

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vs like 4-5min or whatever for pnm

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at least as far as solos go

past birch
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I still remember my first solo nightmare kc lasted 46 minutes

spring cipher
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reg nightmare can be done in a team

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my question is

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how did u have enough supplies to last for 46 minutes

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wtf

past birch
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I had full guthans and just one tick all attacks

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Was truly exhausting

tame flax
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why. am i. at scorpia.

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chaos ele 'esplain

spring cipher
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idk if pnm is squisher/easier to hit then

past forge
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coming up on 1500 dragoons !*

tame flax
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it looks like some bullshit with charging totems on the normal version

past birch
tame flax
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so it feels like it has way more overall hp

past birch
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They have WAY less health

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And also

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Parasite from regular nightmare heals like 10x more

spring cipher
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ohhh

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yea thats why

past birch
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Yeah you can two shot a pillar with a shadow on pnm but on regular it's multiple shots each

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That's already like 3 minute gone

tame flax
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i really hated the sleepwalkers

harsh oyster
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watching vard touch me and then get hit by like 7 hitsplats at once is really funny

tame flax
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they move so fast

tame flax
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imagine if the "no more being teleported" scroll from zombie pirate chest worked on chaos ele

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what a world that would be

shrewd ermine
thorn marsh
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I have, in fact, been 188->0'd..

fleet ibex
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Does "ice spells count as water spells" mean ice spells benefit from the elemental weakness of enemies too?

spring cipher
shrewd ermine
tawdry carbon
fleet ibex
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And tzhaars

shrewd ermine
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im gonna fight the real thing now cutecat

harsh oyster
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Getting there

spring cipher
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u know what 300 kc took me forever?

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alchemical hdyra

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omg

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fuck that boss

cloud panther
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guys zulrah is bullying me

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wont stop giving me tridents instead of visage

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just hit 300kc ive gotten 3 tridents 2 fangs lol

fleet ibex
past birch
harsh oyster
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in no world could i be convinced to do sire 300kc

fleet ibex
spring cipher
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it has high point potential

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sire cas are also fast and easy

fleet ibex
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About 50-55 seconds for me 😢

spring cipher
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:/

fleet ibex
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Even cerb is quicker, doing her in about 25s rn

cloud panther
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bout to start working on jad combat achieves

tame flax
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why would i care, game

harsh oyster
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Awesome

fickle thistle
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I’m so terrible at this game if I can’t even do this

fleet ibex
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Mobile gets a pass

fickle thistle
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I’m just trying to learn it before I get to my PC and maybe like edge out a kill

shrewd ermine
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wowie my first try BugCatWOAH

fickle thistle
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I have the tile pack installed

spring cipher
spring cipher
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+1 pact point even tho u cant use it

shrewd ermine
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i messed up by focusing the white people too

fallen fossil
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Yeah

past birch
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Police! Run!

fallen fossil
shrewd ermine
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officer I can explain!

past birch
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I'm out of here before I get banned again

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Ok so now that gou got phosani whats next

shrewd ermine
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what about

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TWO phosanis BugCatWOAH

spring cipher
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maybe u can get some nightmare drops

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for points

past birch
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Phosani league only challenge??

spring cipher
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also

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god that early drip looks so nice

past birch
shrewd ermine
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well there's at least 800 points

spring cipher
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the sockker

shrewd ermine
harsh oyster
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every time i get a ding and its another awakeners orb i get closer to evaporating someone

spring cipher
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yea

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:D

shrewd ermine
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yeah cutecat

shrewd ermine
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I should probably prog tob first for sang staff

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i assume I can clear nightmare just fine with justi + sang alongside this

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well... when I pick up the rest of my gear BugCatSideEye

spring cipher
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well u also got the option

shrewd ermine
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there we go

spring cipher
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to join random groups

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oh

shrewd ermine
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true. i was waiting for a friend, but I think they dipped from leagues

spring cipher
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:o

thorn marsh
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Nightmare has been killed.. Only took, like, three attempts..

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Gods, this fight is awful..

shrewd ermine
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cause of leagues

spring cipher
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that was my experience learning main game

spring cipher
thorn marsh
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Sixteen fucking minutes is the Grandmaster Speedrun achievement for solo kills..?

harsh oyster
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yes

spring cipher
shrewd ermine
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im guessing this is the toughest CA for sol?

fickle thistle
shrewd ermine
thorn marsh
shrewd ermine
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oh wait

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nvm

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at least +5 prayer

thorn marsh
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It's +5 prayer, though, so still nice if you don't have anything else to put in the ammo slot..

shrewd ermine
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i should really get sang in that case

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i think I have enough sustain with what I have

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but first I can practice coloseum and maybe get my CAs

spring cipher
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sang is nice

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1 tick sang shots was very fun

shrewd ermine
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im just realizing bees is kind of a freebie in leagues it seems

late helm
shrewd ermine
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thorns does NOT work on bees 3 bcaCrySob

past birch
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Doesn't work on any tier of bees

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You just gotta run from them

shrewd ermine
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hmm, it seemed like it did for 2

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unless maybe my minion just aoed

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so how do I deal with manticores for the CA? normally I just tank them. do they spawn in a predictable pattern or do I just need to move around the pillar at all costs?

potent quail
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Well 50 hunter rumours is a task, and once you get masters they are quite fast and good exp

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Btw for hunter runours

I think there might be a way to only get falconry on the elite master

Will look into that tomorrow

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May be the meta for the 50 hunter rumour tasks and feed

harsh oyster
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place your bets on if i get virtus in the last 5

thorn marsh
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First try..

harsh oyster
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what im gathering here is pnm is easier

thorn marsh
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It very much is just because the shield and HP bars are smaller..

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The most annoying part of regular Nightmare is just how fucking long it was..

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Longer fight = More mechanics..

weary shadow
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I finally got the ranger boots and infity boots, but Cerb is like "nah have some dups"

harsh oyster
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Hooray

shrewd ermine
harsh oyster
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no final virtus piece but idgaf vclassic

thorn marsh
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Congrats..

fickle thistle
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I’ve traded one red colored torture another

thorn marsh
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Less than 3,000 points to go..

shrewd ermine
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ih nvm i wasnt even close

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is glory a currency that sticks with me or is it like a high score?

past birch
shrewd ermine
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so basically the best way to get 58k glory is to just max out modifiers every time?

past birch
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I'm happy you're all completing all those tasks CappyHeart

past birch
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And max it out

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After that you should focus on speedrunning

shrewd ermine
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oh okay i thought glory was soley based on mods

past birch
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Don't worry about glory perfect modifiers. Solarflare is good enough

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As early as possible

past birch
shrewd ermine
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i see, looks like dmg is a factor but I assume that's impossible

harsh oyster
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what is a "way to traverse the shadow realm" referring to when interacting w the whisperer

past birch
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I mean you might wanna go for wave 1 perfect

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And maybe wave 4

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Ah, and perfect Sol gives the most points out of all the perfects

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But tbh you can get away with 1 perfect

past birch
thorn marsh
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Old School RuneScape Wiki

The blackstone fragment is a modified shard of the ancient pillar found in the Lassar Undercity. It is obtained from Ketla after showing her the ring of visibility during Desert Treasure II - The Fallen Empire. During the quest, it is used to instantly leave the Shadow Realm within the Lassar Undercity upon activating it. It can be also used to ...

harsh oyster
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i dont have that

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ill go grab that

past birch
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So where the boss is, go to the opposite side (I forgot the cardinal direction)

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And there's a house in that little plaza

scenic kiln
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Hello guys, is there a way to remove the magic trees from my patch faster apart from cutting it? I'm like more than 5 min trying to remove it

harsh oyster
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you can pay the guy to remove it

shrewd ermine
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do i lose glory over time when in the modifer selectio nscreen?

harsh oyster
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the one that stands near the plot/protects it

scenic kiln
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yes

weary shadow
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I think some patches it doesn't damage the tree when you cut it

scenic kiln
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ohhh

weary shadow
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The Faldor one is cuttable now (one of the diary task requires it) , but otherwise I just pay for the guy to delete the trees

deft sigil
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Does anyone have any idea why flask of fervour doesnt do damage to spindel or the spiderlings?

shrewd ermine
harsh oyster
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wtf do i do to avoid sanity drain

queen thicket
harsh oyster
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that does not elaborate at all

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i mean i know to Use it but like

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what the hell do i do with it

weary shadow
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Depends on the mechanic

harsh oyster
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pillars i know seed i kind of get the ghosts i have no idea whats happening

weary shadow
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First part dodge the X root things that attack you

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ghosts kill all that say the same thing (pick 1 word)

queen thicket
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ghosts, kill all of one style, orbs, get the glowy ones

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you do not have to stay in shadow realm for orbs or pillars

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you can flash in and out

weary shadow
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pillars, stand behind the 1/3 near a 2/3 and a 3/3 (Don't attack)

harsh oyster
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i see

weary shadow
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It's not my favourite leagues fight

harsh oyster
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i got her down to a quarter and then went insane and got obliterated

queen thicket
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attacking during pillars is still faster overall but it is more dangerous if you attack and get hit by a wave

weary shadow
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It is, but when someone is new, best to recommend safety as the -40 sanity because your character autopaths into the bad is not fun.

queen thicket
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yeah, I was explaining the process but that you shouldn't probably do it unless you're comfortable

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i'm still hunting the GM time

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(maingame)

shrewd ermine
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do i lose glory per tick in between rounds (when im picking modifiers)?

queen thicket
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No.

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glory is only earned during the wave

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as far as I recall

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leaving after a wave and your glory is set to what it was at the end of the previous wave

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even if you wait before leaving

shrewd ermine
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okie dokie ty

queen thicket
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gl

harsh oyster
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oh come the fuck on

weary shadow
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She sucks

harsh oyster
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the ghosts are nonsensical i dont really get them because theres not enough time to kill the ones saying the same thing

weary shadow
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Specially if you took bank TP

harsh oyster
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the rest is whatever

harsh oyster
weary shadow
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The ghosts are just annoying

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Can confirm even if you took Desert Cerb drops the completed Eternal Boots

harsh oyster
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Are we deadass

weary shadow
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Are you doing this for pact point?

harsh oyster
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no

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idgaf about that i just wanted the one kill point

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Which it counted so

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i successfully did the ghosts and still took 40 sanity for no clear reason

thorn marsh
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Which ghosts did you kill..?

harsh oyster
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the ones that were all saying "mors" or something

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standing in a row

thorn marsh
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Killing those just deals damage to Whisperer..

shrewd ermine
thorn marsh
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Sanitas are the ones that deal Sanity damage (or heal your Sanity if you kill them)..

harsh oyster
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dumb

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Don't matter now

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probably will when i inevitably get hungry for pact points though and go for the ring

shrewd ermine
past birch
harsh oyster
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not anymore

tawdry carbon
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ok boys

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its kandarin diary time

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wait

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lemme kill normal nm real qucik

cloud panther
tawdry carbon
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fuck now i remember why i didnt wanna doit

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torso is a 200 pointer tho

harsh oyster
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oh hey

tawdry carbon
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gzzzz

weary shadow
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Grats!

harsh oyster
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that just leaves ranged now

shrewd ermine
tawdry carbon
shrewd ermine
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which modifer? thinking bees or totem

tawdry carbon
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totem

shrewd ermine
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yeah thought so

tawdry carbon
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cuz it lets you gigaheal

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cuz your attack speed will be super fast against the totem

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youll regen like 40

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its funny

shrewd ermine
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oh so do I let the totem live?

harsh oyster
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now that i have quadrant with my waterthorns

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is colo easy

tawdry carbon
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yes

harsh oyster
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im sure its not afkable but Surely its gonna be a breeze now

shrewd ermine
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colo is doable even without it

tawdry carbon
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its mostly afkable

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if youre not taht overgeared then you may need to move on the javs and pray minos

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besides taht its free

shrewd ermine
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i beat colo without having a shield on by accident bcaCrySob

shrewd ermine
harsh oyster
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any recommended modifiers?

weary shadow
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And don't take Doom

past forge
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any visage grinders

harsh oyster
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or bees

shrewd ermine
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also if you dont want to worry about venom dont pick that modifier

harsh oyster
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frailty

shrewd ermine
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fragility

dusky coral
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Woops, getting burnt out with leagues again lol

harsh oyster
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Frailty

shrewd ermine
weary shadow
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Carry a few super antivenoms or antiposions just in case as the venom does suck

harsh oyster
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foolish

shrewd ermine
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i have no mouth and therefore i cannot scream

harsh oyster
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omfg i dont even have to pray against ket-zek anymore

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insane

eternal heron
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d imp w354 range guild

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south of range guild

weary shadow
#

?

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This is leagues 😛

eternal heron
#

?

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Still a task

weary shadow
#

World 354 is a normal world though

eternal heron
#

oh I meanet 588

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sorry iron is on 354

weary shadow
#

Ah lol

shrewd ermine
#

wait, how do I recharge my echo boots side_eye_cat

weary shadow
#

Dearest Task creators, please in future don't do a triple RNG special for pact points... these Cerb boots are killing my soul.

shrewd ermine
weary shadow
#

I wish I was kidding

shrewd ermine
#

yeah ima keep avernic

weary shadow
#

RNG get Medium Clues, into RNG get Ranger Boots, into RNG get Cerb to drop them with no dup protection or dry protection....

unkempt goblet
#

I lost my Lithic Sceptre and got it back on exactly 50kc. Does the pity rate re-pity you after losing an item or was that just a coincidence?

past forge
#

is medium only one that drops boots?

weary shadow
#

Yes... sadly

past forge
#

ive done 53 no bootss ugh

weary shadow
#

The Eclectic impling in Puro-Puro are your best way to get them, but it was over 3 hours of standing there and catching them for 50 ish ...

harsh oyster
#

nop

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pickpocketing gnomes

past forge
#

i have good way to get scrolls i have relic and zones i need

cloud panther
#

whew, fight caves achievements completed

weary shadow
#

If you have Larc that is a good shout, but I didn't have any luck on gnomes without it 🙁

past forge
#

hey nice gzz!!

weary shadow
#

Next time, I will take Larc

harsh oyster
#

i didnt even have to kill jad's healers he just evaporated histeria

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colo attempt time

scenic garden
#

if I could keybind my prayers these flicks would be infinitely easier

weary shadow
#

Keybinds (and on screen rebindable buttons for mobile) would make the game a lot better for people who didn't grow up on OSRS

scenic garden
#

I came from RS3 for Gridmaster and the keybinds are the main reason I can do pvm there at all

tawdry carbon
#

is there a BA world? 666 is dead

scenic garden
#

here you're expected to deal with 10x as many mechanics with none of the controls

weary shadow
#

I'd settle for better ping (in the Asian regions) in the short term as 150ping does make a different for the more sensitive pray timings.

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F keys can only get you so far

harsh oyster
#

ok wow

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colo really is poor bastard exploded territory

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they just melt

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last time i tried this the uhhhh thingy things killed me

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the weird lion guys i forget the name of

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they scare me

weary shadow
#

The Manticore or the Jaguar?

harsh oyster
#

manticore

scenic garden
#

if I ayak spec vard before the fight, will he still be debuffed when the fight starts?

harsh oyster
#

should be

past forge
#

we go agane tm

scenic garden
weary shadow
#

Too much Zammy Wine?

scenic garden
#

haven't had a single sip

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I've stabilised

harsh oyster
#

there is no world wherein this is afkable i just got completely obliterated

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maybe im missing something

scenic garden
#

it's not

weary shadow
#

Colli?

harsh oyster
#

colo

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yes

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like im talking back to back 40 hitsplats obliterated

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should i be using melee tank armour or something

weary shadow
#

Are you water thorns?

harsh oyster
#

yes

scenic garden
#

it's not even afk with water thorns lol

weary shadow
#

Then yes, you should be using as much armor as you can

tame flax
#

luckiest unluck ive had

sharp horizon
#

So I’ve seen mention that to get the ring of charos, you have to go to the bottom of the well on Harmony island. But that says I need the diving apparatus. Where do I get either of them?

tame flax
#

just got a second champion scroll

weary shadow
#

But it's not afkable as you have to move from the puddles and prayer change a bit.

harsh oyster
#

that is Not true

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basement of the windmill

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pickpocket the dr

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@sharp horizon

scenic garden
#

it's only afk if you think taking your hand off the keyboard for more than a tick is afk

sharp horizon
#

Well where is the doctor? I can’t find him in his castle

harsh oyster
#

basement

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of the windmill

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i just said that

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on harmony island

sharp horizon
#

Thank you. I totally missed that ladder

weary shadow
#

I'm going to have to get a new Cerb task at this rate...

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2nd Enternal boots...

harsh oyster
#

my magic accuracy is awful now

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im not sure this is better

weary shadow
#

You don't need it

harsh oyster
#

i.. kind of do? i sort of need to heal

weary shadow
#

Staff heals on regen as well as hit.

harsh oyster
#

the fact that im dropping below 99hp is probably not great

weary shadow
#

I usually hit around 80 before the little vikings die then climb back up.

harsh oyster
#

yeah no im dropping way below that After the vikings die

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again i must be missing something

weary shadow
#

What things did you take?

harsh oyster
#

"things"?

weary shadow
#

Modifiers

harsh oyster
#

dont recall

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the javelin pooling one, the prayer drain one, avoiding doom, healing totems and frailty

weary shadow
#

Frailty, Volatility and Relentless can be a bit nasty if you go past silver

harsh oyster
#

yeah ive been avoiding those

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maybe my build just isnt fleshed out enough yet

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im only at 27 pacts

weary shadow
#

What ones have you taken so far?

weary shadow
#

Ah your regen isn't over 100% yet, so that might be why the healing isn't as great for you

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You also want that healing thorns one, if you can get it

harsh oyster
#

OH

scenic garden
#

why are gold rings even a drop from vard? and why do I get the rare item tink from that?

harsh oyster
#

no wonder my healing is so stunted omfg

weary shadow
#

But in 3 pact points you should be good

harsh oyster
#

it drops 1 gold, then 2 gold, then ultor

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dumb system

weary shadow
#

It is not fun at all...

harsh oyster
#

anyways i rerolled out of waterthorns and then back into waterthorns and i guess i forgot to grab the thorns healing pact

weary shadow
#

Until you are told about it, it feels like you are being trolled by the game

harsh oyster
#

Which Is Why My Healing Sucks

shrewd ermine
#

so I watched a video on how to do tob, and I assume with leagues it's a lot easier to do, but im not sure how much easier. for verzik's p3 I imagine water thorns is pretty bad there. i also imagine we still need a melee, range, and magic weapon

weary shadow
#

What zones do you have? You might have some less easy, but still not hard to get ones

harsh oyster
#

kma

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kandarin/mory/asgarnia

weary shadow
#

Them

shrewd ermine
#

ah okay

harsh oyster
#

a lot of us here have our regions in our nicks ^

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i need to do the uhhhh mith dragon and kraken boss ones

dense forge
harsh oyster
#

ill probably do mith dragon then go kill echo cerb for another point

weary shadow
#

Oh Mith dragon is super easy

dense forge
#

If you attempt the mechanics, you'll most likely be fine

weary shadow
#

Echo Cerb sucks

harsh oyster
#

yeah i just dont wanna do fuckin barbarian training histeria

harsh oyster
#

well before it was invisible apparently

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so i guess its better than that?

#

nonetheless a dumb system

toxic vortex
#

It was

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Two invisible rolls, then vestige

scenic garden
#

it's already a 1/136 chance of hitting the unique table, is that not enough rng?

toxic vortex
#

Like you'd get normal loot + invisible roll

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So you had no idea how close or not close you were

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During leagues, maybe

shrewd ermine
#

not sure if prayer pen let's you kill all nylos

pale mulch
toxic vortex
pale mulch
#

Saying good boy you are close.

scenic garden
#

no need for 2 extra forced rolls for a drop

toxic vortex
#

Don't look at me

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I think it's dumb as well

loud beacon
#

where is the post jagex put out that showed the most popular relics/areas? i cant find it

lone bloom
#

it was a video

scenic garden
#

can jagex please let me start the vard fight with magic

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this is also dumb

harsh oyster
#

just dont splash vclassic

weak sand
#

I can't do western diaries 🙁 Need to kill zulrah and stuff without the area

lone bloom
#

magic has to roll dmg on vard to activate the fight

analog moat
#

does the range echo pact work with the mele range echo pact

scenic garden
#

and stop fucking disabling my prayer

#

why give us prayers

harsh oyster
#

pray range against his head to avoid prayer disable lol

scenic garden
#

I know but I'm too busy dodgeing 3 axes and a thorn coming for my ass

harsh oyster
#

are you not

#

safespotting

dense forge
scenic garden
#

there's no safespot

harsh oyster
#

theres a "safespot"

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stand between the northern pillars

toxic vortex
#

Safe-ish spot

harsh oyster
#

it minimizes damage and avoids some attacks entirely

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pray melee, pray range when head, then back to melee

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its Extremely free

dense forge
harsh oyster
#

you WILL take damage from the axes and some of vard's attacks but it will be a lot less and you should mostly outheal with thorns and have time to heal regardless

lone bloom
#

vard was free with water thorns, havent tried awakened tho

harsh oyster
#

this is normal i think

scenic garden
harsh oyster
#

not awakened

harsh oyster
toxic vortex
#

Vard is one of those fights that once you learn how/when/where to click, it makes sense

harsh oyster
#

they do like 12 damage each with melee prayed

#

just heal when you get low and youre fine

scenic garden
#

idk about your definition of "safe"

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sounds alot like this definition of "afk" i'm hearing

harsh oyster
#

you are going to take a hell of a lot less damage between those pillars than you are anywhere else in the arena

#

that is "safe"

shrewd ermine
harsh oyster
#

i also don't have a definition for afk if youre referring to what i said about colo, that was @tawdry carbon that implied i could afk colo with waterthorns vclassic

dense forge
#

yep good to have. I bring tent and usually end up meleeing the nylos lol
more styles = faster nylo room in general

toxic vortex
tawdry carbon
harsh oyster
#

i dont have enough pacts is my issue, not gear

shrewd ermine
scenic garden
#

well I still take damage so it's not gonna get me the perfect vard ca

tawdry carbon
#

then yea u will have to play a bit

shrewd ermine
#

not sure if that's going to be a problem

dense forge
#

def is lol

shrewd ermine
#

oof

harsh oyster
toxic vortex
#

Well

harsh oyster
#

perfect vard is just going to require you to git gud i fear

shrewd ermine
#

I guess it's not the end of the world though. probably a lot of blindbaggers and wildy crossbows (forgot the build name)

toxic vortex
#

It won't get the axe enthusiast one

harsh oyster
#

i don't have that either cause im not good at game and thus didnt try vclassic

toxic vortex
#

But that CA is dumb.

harsh oyster
#

i got it

scenic garden
#

god this achievment is just a big miserable rngfest

harsh oyster
#

oh wait no

harsh oyster
scenic garden
#

it is

harsh oyster
#

everything vard does is avoidable if you pay attention

#

it literally is not lol

scenic garden
#

cause you can get it one round then oh look he spawns an axe right on top of you that you can't avoid

harsh oyster
#

https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Vardorvis/Strategies the strategy guide goes over Exactly how to avoid every single attack vardorvis has

Old School RuneScape Wiki

After the completion of Desert Treasure II - The Fallen Empire, players can fight a stronger variant of Vardorvis. An even stronger awakened variant can be fought by climbing the rocks with an awakener's orb in the player's inventory and selecting "Yes" when prompted.

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because its not rng

toxic vortex
#

You can though

#

It's called axe skipping

#

There's a small window after the axe spawns before it actually hits you

#

Putting it all together in a single run is why it's a CA to get a perfect kill

harsh oyster
#

complaining that something is impossible while having not looked into it literally at all is absurd

weary shadow
#

178/200 cerb kills for this task and still no ranger boot upgrade 🙁

toxic vortex
#

Sometimes it just doesn't work. But most of the time it does

toxic vortex
scenic garden
#

apologies for not learning every tick perfect tech

harsh oyster
#

meanwhile thats All ive gotten histeria

harsh oyster
weary shadow
#

I would trade if I could

scenic garden
#

how am I supposed to know about that to look it up?

harsh oyster
#

if youre struggling with something fuckin google it theres a 90% chance its a skill issue

#

like

lone bloom
#

youre struggling w/ a boss.... most people watch youtube vids or read osrs wiki at least to learn more

harsh oyster
#

Just Look Into Things bitching to us isn't going to instantly solve that for you

weary shadow
#

It is therapeutic though

harsh oyster
#

that it is

#

and in some cases faster

weary shadow
#

I will say for Awaken Vard here was a much better resource that wiki or youtube

harsh oyster
#

but coming in and going "i cant do this thing it must be entirely rng jagex y" isnt going to help

weary shadow
#

Still cannot work out Awaken Levi though

#

Prayers become basically unresponsive for me in the last 10%

#

That is a fair comment

#

Unless it is RNG of course lol

lone bloom
#

i cried in here after dying to echo amox 20+ times until i finally bothered to look it up and realized you need to move/atk/move/atk

harsh oyster
#

so for future reference do yourself a favour and Google Shit before assuming its the hardest thing of all time

#

rest assured you will face harder than Vardorvis

scenic garden
#

I'm more puzzled by this then how to dodge the axes, cause when did I get the other 3?

weary shadow
#

Like Awakened Vard lol

lone bloom
#

he got perfect vard lmao

scenic garden
#

thought I barely managed 2

harsh oyster
scenic garden
#

complaining works again

lone bloom
#

vard is a midgame boss in main game tbh, people do it with torags/ dragon scim

scenic garden
#

think I'd have to do it with rune or smth for one of the CAs

harsh oyster
#

i ran all 300 of my kills with whip and dharok

scenic garden
#

idk what counts as under 2m

lone bloom
#

probably d scim and rune armour

scenic garden
#

is that ge value?

lone bloom
#

yes

scenic garden
#

can we deflate the price of torags for a moment?

#

or ahrims

weary shadow
#

Dragon Scimis are fairly cheap now

tawdry carbon
harsh oyster
#

to clarify

tawdry carbon
harsh oyster
#

Vard has 800 magic defense and no elemental weakness

#

its almost pointless to mage against him

scenic garden
#

he has 30% weakness with quadrant

weary shadow
#

How many matches was that Zuker?

harsh oyster
#

and still 800 magic defense so youre going to be splashing 9/10 hits

toxic vortex
harsh oyster
#

its not worth it

toxic vortex
#

With the max mini game boost

lone bloom
#

in league most of my damage to vard was from thorns. i splashed like 80% of all my water surges

weary shadow
#

Oh good then 3 more to go!

toxic vortex
#

Because you also need 375 points in each role to buy the torso

#

Plus the points needed for lvl 5

stoic lance
#

hearing vard is basic bitch pvm hurts my soul tbh lmao, I cant do the awakened even tho i know the mechanics and normie vard is ez

lone bloom
#

we're talking about basic vard

#

awakened is hard we all know

harsh oyster
#

awakened is Not basic bitch pvm for sure

toxic vortex
#

I feel like having actually done awakened vard without cheesing with last stand, maybe I could actually do it main game

harsh oyster
#

though i find normal vard hard too without the safespot and i cant imagine doing DT2 bosses outside of leagues

weary shadow
#

I think the difficulty for the awakened bosses is also because you need the orbs to try them, and there are mechanics that you just have to learn live, and with limited attempts that can be not easy to do.

stoic lance
#

lol doing DT2 quest in the main game, vard is the one that killed me the most learning it, but it was also the first one i did and i was overly cocky

lone bloom
#

awakened whisperer and awakened leviathan really made me wanna quit gridmaster last year, but i eventually managed w/ last stand

toxic vortex
#

Lmao

weary shadow
#

Regular Whispher is enough to make me nope out of the grind for it...

scenic garden
#

vard is the only one I could manage in gridmaster

weary shadow
#

I am very thankful that we got extra pact points

harsh oyster
#

im so sad i missed out on gridmaster

lone bloom
#

whisperer was the hardest for me in main game DT2. actually had to buy a shadow for her

harsh oyster
#

i hope they do gridmaster again

scenic garden
#

got awakened vard there but could barely get even normal kills on the other 3

weary shadow
#

Jagex likes money, so there is hope

lone bloom
#

gridmaster was super fun, but we all finished it in like 2 days

scenic garden
#

if jagex likes money so much they should do a 2mo gridmaster this time

deep basin
#

is it possible to get magic secateurs with zeah, kandarin, morytania?

#

or is it asgarnia only?

past birch
#

Nah jagex likes making a quality product it's their upper ones that really like money (needless to say we all wanna get paid for our job)

toxic vortex
#

Pretty sure asg only

#

Because you have to get them from the guy south of fally

past birch
#

Asg only but they're worthless with farming relic btw

harsh oyster
#

one more pact point for beedog

scenic garden
#

if I'd had an extra month to figure out inferno and awakened bosses I might have gotten the board cleared back then

past birch
#

I tested and makes zero diff

deep basin
#

i see

#

yeah - i got nature's accord and soul harvest

#

so not really need them

weary shadow
#

Not really

deep basin
#

but wanted to see if i can even get them

past birch
#

Secateurs have no effect with natures accord

harsh oyster
#

NOW

#

i have thorns healing

deep basin
#

oh

deep basin
past birch
#

Like I used them for a while and never noticed more yield

harsh oyster
#

now my healing shouldnt suck nearly as bad

shrewd ermine
#

yay free points cutecat

weary shadow
#

2 more pact points as you get the even better healing too

past birch
scenic garden
weary shadow
#

4 more cerb to go, but no boots likely

shrewd ermine
deep basin
#

also - what is the best fishing method? i got barbarian gathering and zeah+kandarin+morytania

deep basin
#

that's awfully slow

shrewd ermine
deep basin
#

1,3m xp/h

past birch
weary shadow
#

It's a shame we can't get a private Cerb, else I'd be able to do something for 30 minutes and come back

lone bloom
deep basin
#

technically 2t crabs is fastest, right?

toxic vortex
shrewd ermine
#

i think tob is my next best step

past birch
shrewd ermine
deep basin
#

i mostly lamped smithing

lone bloom
#

smithing is free with tirannwn

#

waste of lamps if u picked that

weary shadow
#

I might hit normal odds for these boots at this rate

deep basin
#

no tirannw

#

zeah+kandarin+morytania

tawdry carbon
#

omg i thought iw as free

deep basin
#

i really dislike tirannw content

shrewd ermine
#

HAWK TUAH

deep basin
#

gauntlet is repetitive

scenic garden
#

went to prep for dying to another awakened vard, came in and got my health and pray capped on him, ayak spec'd twice, then I noticed the noted awakener orb is still in my inv >_>

lone bloom
#

gauntlet is the easiest echo boss this league

scenic garden
#

ffs

deep basin
#

yeah, easy but just repetitive

scenic garden
#

now to wait another 5 mins for my spec to refill

weary shadow
#

I thought Echo Amox was with Thorns

lone bloom
shrewd ermine
#

for the regions I picked

weary shadow
past birch
#

With my regions it was: Amoxliatl >>> Hespori >>> Kalphite Queen >>> Cerberus

harsh oyster
#

ok yeah this is way way way better i cant believe i missed thorns healing omfg

lone bloom
#

i didnt have thorns when i did amox. i had blindbag which sucked ass

pure karma
#

finally

weary shadow
#

Haha nice

shrewd ermine
#

amox you can literally afk

shrewd ermine
past birch
#

peet

pure karma
#

ran out of tears lmao

lone bloom
#

echo therm took more learning attempts for me but once i learned it, i can do it flawlessly

#

echo hunllef i got it in like 2 tries

#

but i already knew the hunllef mechanics beforehand

deep basin
#

echo thermy is suuuuuper easy to do perfectly

#

if you miss 1 hit after second orb hits you on enrage it's even freeier

scenic garden
#

In addition, defeating the boss perfectly will earn 50% more loot from the standard drop table.
What's the "standard drop table"? Just commons? Or is that a better chance at uniques too?

deep basin
#

but it's very doable even without missing ticks

scenic garden
#

vard

past birch
#

That's for dt2 bosses

scenic garden
#

...all dt2 bosses have this?

lone bloom
#

echo kbd was also a joke, got that 1 on first try

past birch
#

The only one where you 100% gotta do perfects is whisperer

tawdry carbon
past birch
#

Because that 50% is a lot

#

Whereas with vardorvis it's like

#

50% more bronze javelins

toxic vortex
toxic vortex
shrewd ermine
#

do charged staffs not work in barb assault?

past birch
#

Vardorvis loot is such a meme

deep basin
#

how would i go about training thieving, construction, mining with these relics?

past birch
shrewd ermine
toxic vortex
#

You need specific elemental spells

deep basin
stoic lance
deep basin
#

yeah, mining sucks

toxic vortex
stoic lance
#

afaik it's powermining iron to 99 and emptying the knapsack every 2 minutes

deep basin
#

hehe

weary shadow
#

Did you take Asag?

harsh oyster
#

i died to the BEES

stoic lance
#

i wish i'd taken asg for mlm

past birch
#

What does woodsman do again?

toxic vortex
#

Lots of things

deep basin
#

so iron ore powermine, barbarian fishing, sepulchre, ardy knights, mahogany planks from transmute

#

?

toxic vortex
#

Nothing that helps those skills though

stoic lance
#

woodsman automatically banks hunter drops, burns logs automatically (toggleable)

weary shadow
past birch
#

Also is really powermining iron best option with barbarian? You get a big boost in success chance, there's gotta be a better ore idk...

toxic vortex
#

There is

deep basin
#

mithril?

stoic lance
#

the rock respawn time was the issue imo

past birch
#

In leagues

#

Like

stoic lance
#

there arent any other rocks that respawn fast enough for you to not move? i tried doing gem mining for a while but thats slightly worse and it doesnt work with knapsack

past birch
#

Runite spawns in your face

harsh oyster
#

i took barbarian and reloaded into endless harvest

toxic vortex
#

Someone made a chart comparing the XP/hr of resources with barb

harsh oyster
#

i just sat there and mined runite

deep basin