leagues-general

[languid belfry]

same with fight 1

[winged sinew]

well it doesn't hurt to see how long it will take me but i won't do it now

i just want task points atm

already have 40 pacts

and i think doing some of the easier ones atm is better

because they take way less time

[languid belfry]

yeah

[winged sinew]

but it wa super easy

and i started to remember some of the mechanics

the spider phase sucked with 120 ping and switchign prayer one handed

i got like 1 -2 hits in

doing brimhaven agility task at 98 agility and agilty potion

[winged sinew]

gzz

[fickle thistle]

with my scuffed build

[winged sinew]

when thte guy who told you to not get prayer pen, did they at least ask what you wanted to do?

[fickle thistle]

i honestly dont remember

it was a few nights ago in here

[torpid trench]

Wait no pray pen?

Surely at least a little?

[winged sinew]

that is important

he was told not to

buy some guy

[torpid trench]

[winged sinew]

it all depends

on what they want to do

do not judge

[torpid trench]

Youd have to have a very clear, very specific path mapped out in advance to be certain that you dont want ANY prayer pen

because its useful in so many ways

[winged sinew]

yes and to some extent to with as well

[fickle thistle]

after i get some more points im willing to send a reset to fix it if it becomes a problem

[winged sinew]

you always need to know what you want to do with your build ahead of time, why i asked jared if the "helper" asked

you can do doom without prayer pen and still kinda cheese itr

[winged sinew]

i would think if you had 25% it would help

[fickle thistle]

got what i came here for

[winged sinew]

nice

but even at 25% it is not something you can rely on

to hit 2 times in a row

[fickle thistle]

okay

what if i send this

[torpid trench]

Thats basically my build

[winged sinew]

PERFECT

[fickle thistle]

forgot i have a 32nd point for that one healing node in thorns

[torpid trench]

Except I skipped the water node and went into melee 1h

[winged sinew]

thatno

noono

no

[fickle thistle]

oh wait i need the thorns node

[winged sinew]

throns

[fickle thistle]

lmao

[torpid trench]

Drop the air node and reroute your melee tree through thorns

[fickle thistle]

i lied i have 34

[fickle thistle]

the prayer restore on refund?

[winged sinew]

I will show you what is wanted on the doom fight

only the neseccary

the minimum

[fickle thistle]

?

[torpid trench]

This is my current tree in game

It uses 37, i need 3 more to finish my melee 1h

[fickle thistle]

i do like light weapons. but all i have is kraken tentacle.

[torpid trench]

krak is bis light wep

[fickle thistle]

o

i am so dumb dude

[torpid trench]

"I like that stuff, but all i have is the best gear in the game Im so over"

[fickle thistle]

i cant be called out like this

i am just a small noob

[torpid trench]

you have rapid autocast and regen on powered staves. Those are opposing weapon types

[winged sinew]

no

this is over heal

oh wait

this was not needed

[torpid trench]

You have faster autocast, and water runes on powered staff regen

[torpid trench]

There ya go

[winged sinew]

yeah i saw it a bit late

[torpid trench]

all g

[winged sinew]

minimum 100% for doom

29 points

you can sahve off 2-3 points

if you remove accuracy nodes

but not recommended

[torpid trench]

If youre water thorns, you dont need any acc

[winged sinew]

then this

[torpid trench]

just stand melee, pray melee, and 2t cast water spells to sustain

[winged sinew]

27 pacts

[torpid trench]

Is that 100% regen? youll need the sustain after Delve8

[fickle thistle]

well, my build isnt just for doom. i kinda wanna just have like a build that can do everything

[winged sinew]

doesn't need to go deeper than 8

okay

what do you want to do?

pvm with water thorns?

[fickle thistle]

yeah just kill tough monsters with water thorns

do big bosses

[winged sinew]

start with the 27

then go to the 29 by getting accuracy

then some like to get passive prayer too

to keep up with bosses

since the water spells surge

uses air

something like this

32

[torpid trench]

Do I need to beat all 6 ket-rak challenges to get to the leagues only stuff?

[rare hollow]

Hello freakshows

[winged sinew]

after that it is kinda prefence

[rare hollow]

Uh

Yeah

[torpid trench]

laaame

[fickle thistle]

thank you

[rare hollow]

After defeating 6 Jade, it unlocks infinite jads and the other leagues jads

[winged sinew]

this can be good

if you are far away

from target

BUT

[rare hollow]

Infinite one is for the 666 and leagues jads for pact point

[winged sinew]

it is only 10%

so it won't help everytime

but when it does

[rare hollow]

This node is very useless in most pvm content

[winged sinew]

you will know

[rare hollow]

You're taking this node literally for the jad nonsense

Or for random cas

[fickle thistle]

i do kinda wanna do the jad challenge

[rare hollow]

Do it, no death cost and it's free points

[winged sinew]

then pick it up late

[rare hollow]

I used it to rush to my t8

[winged sinew]

or if you can afford it now

[rare hollow]

Yeah tht 10% node is very last thing to consider

For me it was either that or defense boost on my current build so I just took defense to proc full counter thorns more often

[winged sinew]

this is the one with the 10%, if you picked mory it will help in tob

since you keep distance

idk anymore if i will ever respecc at this point

i got 2

[fickle thistle]

another point

[winged sinew]

gz

[fickle thistle]

no confliction yet..

[winged sinew]

how many do you have?

unused points?

[fickle thistle]

1

[winged sinew]

don't spend it yet or, the best thing in my opinion is accuracy or damage

but you can wait

with it

[fickle thistle]

yeah i picked up 25% acc

[winged sinew]

okay

that is good too

[fickle thistle]

i gotta bankstand and dump 100k charges into this suffering

[winged sinew]

no

i did doom and inferno without

i forgot to turn mine on

had 15k charges

[fickle thistle]

i forgot to charge mine when i first got it

but only put 5k on after i figured it out and im down to 1k

[rocky harbor]

the hunter rumors seems somewhat imbalanced or something. Ill be 99 before i get to 50 rumors which will allow cooking the high tier meat.

[fast bridge]

Dumb question, but I'm assuming if I play an iron from normal game on leagues, the rewards points will go to that iron right

[torpid current]

name a worse item in the game than the rogue's kit. its only purpose is anger you i swear

[winged sinew]

points will go to the character that matches the name on leagues

so the mode never matters

ironman characters will get points the same as mains from leagues

since characters are bound by name

[shrewd ermine]

does a higher slayer lv do anything for you past 99?

[fickle thistle]

the 25/35/50 mil xp tasks but nothing else

[shrewd ermine]

how though? does a higher slayer lv mean more xp per kill?

[winged sinew]

no

tied to the creature slain

you will continue to get xp

[shrewd ermine]

i see, so i dont see how it helps

[winged sinew]

highest visible is 99

doesn't help

but gives task points

[shrewd ermine]

how so? does a higher slayer lv trick the game into thinking you have more xp than you actually do?

[winged sinew]

when you get 25M, 50Mxp

max xp is 200M

[torpid current]

im confused what ur asking

[winged sinew]

but you get 99 way before that

so you can still get xp

[shrewd ermine]

basically wondering if this is useful once I'm lv 99

[winged sinew]

but not levels after 99

no

[shrewd ermine]

gotcha.

[torpid current]

well the ranged boost helps right

xD

[winged sinew]

[shrewd ermine]

true, im magic though ;v

[winged sinew]

+0.1 damage

you are not wrong

but still

[torpid current]

i seriously hate going through this obstacle course just to be rewarded a glorified tinderbox

[winged sinew]

i wasted ticks on using my imbued heart while i had my magic boosted

1 tick every 7 min

[torpid current]

wow so inefficient

[winged sinew]

yeah, i stopped bringing it with me

[fickle thistle]

i know we just spent 45 minutes discussing it but like this is ultimately what we settled on right

[rare hollow]

water thorns with overhealing

[fickle thistle]

no ranged pathing got it

[winged sinew]

the accuracy ONLY if you want

not needed

[fickle thistle]

so the accuracy from the ranged tree isnt required

[rare hollow]

you'll eventually need a lot of accuracy in lategame

[winged sinew]

but if you have extra points

go ahead

[rare hollow]

but the build is basically that

[winged sinew]

won't make it worse

[rare hollow]

it will make it 3x better imo

especially if youre doing a lot of raiding/inferno/colo

[rare hollow]

where those bums are tanky af

[fickle thistle]

this is what i ultimately wanna do

vibe doing hard stuff

[winged sinew]

also missing a prayer pen

for 100%

[torpid current]

i think 100% is a bit overkill in most cases

[winged sinew]

can get away with 75

yea

75 is good enough in most places

[fickle thistle]

but 100 takes the thought away

lol

[winged sinew]

yea

[winged sinew]

again, from what i think you will beenfit the most from, based on waht you said

[rare hollow]

100% is just overkill imo

[thorn marsh]

Is Dizana's Quiver effected by regen, or does it not count since it's not technically the ammo being regen'd and it's not a weapon slot..?

[rare hollow]

oh wait nvm

[rare hollow]

it uh

it auto picks up your dropped bolts/arrows if thats what you want

so you dont need to run over and pick it up, essentially auto regens

so basically think auto-pickup, ammo saving behaviour and ammo regen all packed into 1

[thorn marsh]

My goal is to get a Blessed Quiver.. If it does regen charges, then I can keep pulling Sunfire Splinters out of it and just AFK forevs since I have more than 100% regen on ammo..

[rare hollow]

o like that

[thorn marsh]

If it doesn't, though, I have to actually get the splinters legit..

[rare hollow]

um im not really sure if it can regen sunfire splinters lol

[winged sinew]

this is 33 points

i posted earlier ones too

with less points

down to 29? i think

[winged sinew]

29

[rare hollow]

basically the regen function of the pacts works like ghommal's penny

you have to see what all is included in ghommal's function, that will only apply

so it shows in here dizana's quiver on the site

so in theory it might actually work according to what you just thought about

[torpid trench]

Leagues challenge done

6 jads sucks man

[rare hollow]

id say pump the quiver with a few hundo splinters and see if it works or not

gzgz

[winged sinew]

i am gonna try that

6 jads

later

[torpid trench]

Wait he gave me a trailblazer kit, do i get to keep that in main game?

[winged sinew]

who gave you?

[rare hollow]

no lol

[torpid trench]

The tzhaar challenge dude

[rare hollow]

its just for the kit task

[torpid trench]

Gave me on for doing the leagues chal

Right well off to doom for pact 39 ig

[thorn marsh]

Confirmed: Dizana's Quiver does not regen charges..

[rare hollow]

how many did u fire

[winged sinew]

can you show the kit?

[rare hollow]

or are you at 100% regen chance

[torpid trench]

I dont have the bulwark to put it on

[thorn marsh]

I've got over 100% regen, so I should never be losing charges if it worked..

[rare hollow]

ah fat rip

[torpid trench]

But it makes the Dinh's Bulwark look like the shield from the zuk fight

[winged sinew]

oh

it is ornament kit

[rare hollow]

tho i must inform you that passive charging thing on dizana's quiver was once bugged out

[torpid trench]

ye

[rare hollow]

so that old bug must be still lurking inside it

[winged sinew]

ornament kits are just in teh character

[thorn marsh]

What's the best way to get Sunfire Splinters..?

[winged sinew]

leagues character is not main game

[torpid trench]

do colo

[fickle thistle]

colo and trade in quivers

[rare hollow]

looks like this

[thorn marsh]

Oof..

I'm bad at Colo..

[rare hollow]

u got pacts son?

[thorn marsh]

Not a son..

[rare hollow]

wait u just did a colo lol

[torpid trench]

Waterthorns that shit

[rare hollow]

keep running it

[thorn marsh]

I've cleared once.. I'm just bad at it..

[rare hollow]

oh sorry didnt see that it/she thing

[rocky harbor]

in their next leagues they really may want to make each rumor completed count as two. seems like it would be balanced perfectly then.

[torpid trench]

Brain off stand in the middle pray range until manticores, then pray manticores

[thorn marsh]

Died on later waves quite a few times due to being overwhelmed by magers and manticores..

[fickle thistle]

just dont pick bees

[rare hollow]

every thorn users weakness is the manticore lol

[fickle thistle]

hate bees

[rare hollow]

bees just annoying

[torpid trench]

just flick mantis, the rest is vibes

dont even consider the mages

[fickle thistle]

manit mayhem 3 felt so funny

[torpid trench]

thorns will shred them

[fickle thistle]

manitcores just blast themselves

[winged sinew]

not true, everyone is not the same

you are just saying it to trigger people

[torpid trench]

Its not that deep and not everything said is malicious

He's making ajoke about waterthorns not praying

and manticores requiring rapid praying across 3t

[rare hollow]

?

[winged sinew]

but repeat a lie enough and people beleive it

[rare hollow]

i literally ran nm with 2 thorns user who had eternal sustenance

absolutely no prayers at all from them

[fickle thistle]

im a new thorns player and i got it in like two tries

easy timing

[thorn marsh]

How hard is 58,000 glory for the 400 point league task..? My clear was at 55k, but no clue if that's actually close or if another 3k glory is hard to squeeze out of a run at that point..

[rare hollow]

i run thorns also but try and learn to flick prayers

[rare hollow]

its has to be like a 10minute run more or less tbh

you wont get it by doing traditional solving and stacking

the strat is literally sitting in middle and thorns for that one

[winged sinew]

getting overwhelmed is the hardest for me at colo

idk where everything will spawn

but i have not tried to learn

i did clear it in leagues

i did learn that manticores, if they have the attacks read

[torpid trench]

Even in main game, you dont really need to worry too much about where everything spawns

[winged sinew]

ready, it goes from bottom to up

[torpid trench]

Only 2 specific spawn points

and how they interact

[winged sinew]

so the bottom colour first

[torpid trench]

But every wave, you start on the same tile, move to the same 2 tile side by side

[winged sinew]

and it goes up

[torpid trench]

and then plan accordingly

[winged sinew]

yea i figured

[tacit oyster]

there are way more than 2 spawn points, but you can remove certain spawn points based on the location your character is when the enemies start spawning

[torpid trench]

Theres only 2 spawns you need to know. A and B

All the rest solve themselves

and thats why you run to the two tiles i mentioned above

if something spawns A, you run to start A

if B, start B

[winged sinew]

waht frego means is when you are in position ther should be only 2 to think about

[torpid trench]

if Both, you adjust slightly

Correct

There would be, in theory, 4 possible spawns to worry about

A,B, South1, and South 2

But south spawns are painful

and so the start tile works in such a way that you should never get spawns on S1/S2

So you only need to worry about A/B, run to your pillar, pray, kill frems, breathe, and solve

Which isnt easy

But its a lot less than know all spawns and where they might be and learn to deal with every variation of each wave

Thats insanity

[winged sinew]

from what i have seen you need to stay behind the pillars

and based on what order you want to fight them, you need to switch between 2 sides of the pillar

to get them stuck

adn not hit you with the style yuo don't want

[torpid trench]

Sort of, with a bit more nuance

Most things will get themselves stuck, its only if you get the south spawns that you need to worry about rotating pillar

assuming you dont fuck up

Which, under pressure, happens a lot

[tacit oyster]

you use pillars to limit which mobs can see you to make it easier to deal with them 1 by 1. if you are more comfortable with prayer flicking and getting them off tick you are able to deal with multiple

swapping pillars is when you are not confident in off ticking and doing correct prayer flicks

[winged sinew]

i never meant swap pillars

i meant between 2 sides of one pillar

the outside ones

away from spawning points

[torpid trench]

Yeah, rotating pillars

[winged sinew]

oh

[winged sinew]

this is what i replied to

i thought this was rotating pillars

[torpid trench]

Basically, if you get nasty spawns, or you mess up, you can rotate around your regular pillar, to shuffle what can see you

[rare hollow]

just watch some proper colo guides dude

[torpid trench]

Tbh its a bit vague on the terminology

[rare hollow]

so you understand what you need to do

[torpid trench]

I was taught rotating and changing pillars

[tacit oyster]

I mean there are times when you need to move to north side of the pillar to lure mob from south closer if you are doing melee or have myopia

[torpid trench]

as move around my pillar, and move to a new pillar

[winged sinew]

i already know for the most part

i am not going to do it anytime soon

was just talking about it

tbf, rotating is not new pillar so kinda my bad

[torpid trench]

Bro please this is my 10th time getting past floor 10, where are my fuckin treads

[winged sinew]

within 10 more

[rare hollow]

https://tenor.com/view/osrs-runescape-delve-mokhaiotl-wave8-gif-15053991743245941277

[torpid trench]

https://tenor.com/view/osrs-tob-pottob-verzik-runescape-gif-17926266100975570557

[rare hollow]

tob my weakness

goshdarnit

[winged sinew]

tob in leagues was easy

[torpid trench]

Waterthorns has no weakness

[winged sinew]

way easier than i thought

[rare hollow]

sadly im not water thorns

blindbag thorns

[torpid trench]

Classic blind ragger

[rare hollow]

gotta love it

[torpid trench]

Does the hole glow for treads?

Ik it didnt when i got gloves

[rare hollow]

yeh

[torpid trench]

[rare hollow]

gloves no cuz obv the item id is different from cloth for glow

i got 1 glow for pet and glow for treads

[torpid trench]

mhm

[rare hollow]

youll see the glow dw

[chilly pine]

update, ive completed the axe

[torpid trench]

Never seen glow before tbh

Even on main

[rare hollow]

oh fr? rip dude

best feeling feels like a lootbox

clan gets to guess

[winged sinew]

and you get dopamine

maybe treads

[rare hollow]

7 ultors before axe

i want axe for my blindbag but god

[fickle thistle]

ugh

zuk killed me at 200 hp

[winged sinew]

yeah, he hits hard

[fickle thistle]

i fumbled the jad up my butt

[rare hollow]

loooool

[winged sinew]

i died 2 times on purpose, 2 times because i have never tried and failed and got it on my 5th

[rare hollow]

u were doing zuk with jad still alive?

wild

[chilly pine]

was funny having streamers want you to have the soulreaper axe week 1 for their tob runs, when it takes so long to get

[rare hollow]

fk dat

we know streamers have 10x droprate

[thorn marsh]

Well, that was easy..

[torpid trench]

Where tf do i stand

[winged sinew]

welcome to my new tile locked account, for my first episode i will get 99 firemaking (15 min video)

[fickle thistle]

if i beat zuk i can get like 3 pact points

[rare hollow]

this is the real tile locked account kek

[winged sinew]

start flying

[crystal kelp]

On the tiles without acid

[winged sinew]

GOTTEM

[torpid trench]

https://giphy.com/gifs/WWE-wwe-wrestling-3oFzlVpcSZMXXf2t5m

[winged sinew]

a lot of toxic/acid spit there

must smell nice

[rare hollow]

too much acid piss

[torpid trench]

You lied to me

[winged sinew]

try 10 more

[torpid trench]

https://giphy.com/gifs/netflix-comedy-astronomy-club-astronomyclub-XfgzmsohkE9DNd7LBn

[rare hollow]

trying to rally 2 of my cc mates for a simple huey speedrunner achievement

[winged sinew]

honestly when you are that far

[rare hollow]

is harder than doing 6 jads

[winged sinew]

just restart

[rare hollow]

tf bruh

[winged sinew]

idk it feels like it would be more chil to be around 4-12 than 20+

[torpid trench]

Nah

At the point, its exactly the same every kill

[winged sinew]

then keep going

[torpid trench]

2 autos, 1 double ball, tank the blast, dodge the cars, pray melee, he dies before the i need to do the crystals

every time

i am

[winged sinew]

nice

[tacit oyster]

during gridmaster. had to stop at delve 241 because made 1 missclick and that caused my khopesh spec tile to get ragged

[torpid trench]

ah yes

24 delves deep

1052 fire runes

fuck this boss

SURELY

PLEASE GOD

LET IT END

I cant see it

too much loot

what happens if i claim with a full invent?

its an eye

Value went up 98M

The value was wrong for the treads

[shrewd ermine]

how easy are these perfect task? kind of just mage tanked the boss

minion will help thankfully

[tacit oyster]

they all show 100m for some reason.

like ayak is actually only 50m in ge

[torpid trench]

We gottem

now to get 80 range

[thorn marsh]

The most difficult part of them is just dealing with the adds.. The mirrorback babies are awful for killing Perfect attempts..

Minion and Thorns both cause you to take reflected damage, so you have to unequip a shield and desummon your minion..

My strat was to just kill all the green eggs before they hatch, let the red ones hatch and either use them for damage if you know the timing to run away, and take my shield off before any white eggs hatch so Thorns didn't fuck anything up..

Make sure not to move quickly so that Araxxor keeps using melee, and be careful about the egg in the NE corner because the LOS is blocked by a corner and you'll end up running all the way in to melee range of it (and baiting a ranged attack from Araxxor) if you try to hit it without moving around the corner first..

[shrewd ermine]

yeah I just learned about the limited range thing :/

[modern ginkgo]

I did it the other way, I stood in melee range the entire time and just bopped him in like 40s for the kill lol

[torpid current]

i do not understand corp beast

[shrewd ermine]

but you cant hit them for enraged

[thorn marsh]

Perfect 2 can't kill that quickly since you have to wait for Araxxor to kill itself..

[shrewd ermine]

how do I let it kill itself and how do I dodge the venom?

seems like the boss just spams that

[modern ginkgo]

watermage thorns did the work lol

[shrewd ermine]

yeah but i can't get hit

[torpid current]

am i dumb corp beast feels impossible it regens super fast, has a million hp and defense and hits 60s

[thorn marsh]

Araxxor deals damage to itself if you're inside its hitbox when it attacks..

[shrewd ermine]

there's a long strategy to weaken it in main game

[teal harness]

Destroy all the eggs first

[shrewd ermine]

is there an easy way to talk inside of the boss rather than click it by accident? not sure if there's an option to shift click or something to "walk here"

[teal harness]

Move 2 tiles away from melee range whenever araxxor hitsplats you

[deep basin]

does flask not work as dmg on moons of peril?

[torpid current]

looking at the strategy guides to solo corp and its literally just spec to reduce defense and die on repeat thats kinda boring

[winged sinew]

use menu entry swapper with shift click

?

[thorn marsh]

Menu Entry Swapper..

[torpid trench]

Flask time BAY BEE

[thorn marsh]

There's an option to set shift-click to "Walk Here" so you don't accidentally attack..

[teal harness]

I entry swapped the shift + click to walk here

It was a pain in the ass ca with the thorns and minion and recoils etc gotta turn all off

[shrewd ermine]

okay i found it ty. regarding this comment, I think I can just stand under the boss then for the entirety of the fight since I can tank the attacks as a water mage (melee hits only void perfection if im off prayer)

[shrewd ermine]

ah so thorns + minion count as damage? in some tasks you can use minion

and it doesnt count for attacking

[teal harness]

Banish your minion when before he phases

[torpid current]

can minion cheese corp beast

[thorn marsh]

1. Araxxor will try to move to get you out of its hitbox, so you have to keep moving to stay under it.. 2. Being hit at all in enrage voids Perfect since its attacks are completely avoidable once enrage starts..

[winged sinew]

is it rude to jump over an antelopes dead body?

[iron mesa]

nah, thats style points

[teal harness]

12 ca points left for elite finally going to get them from inferno cuz perfect doom aint going to be it 🤣🤣

[winged sinew]

will show what i mean

[cloud basin]

What's consensus on thorns mage builds? Which ones are best? I've seen settleds van faux's. Overall which one shines the most? (@me)

[low belfry]

What's the next best armour after mystic robes for mage build? have asgarnia and kandarin unlocked

[tacit oyster]

best thorns is mix of water mage and powered staff. powered staff more dps but elemental spells more healing

[shrewd ermine]

virtus comes to mind

[low belfry]

How difficult is that to get? I'm honestly new to PVM and I'm struggling to get through Echo Thermy without my heart bouncing out my chest

[tacit oyster]

ancestral > virtus > ahrim > infinity > mystic

if using ancient then virtus is higher

[shrewd ermine]

they dont have kourend

kand and asg only

[thorn marsh]

If you're struggling with Echo Thermy, then Vardorvis or Whisperer might take some practice..

[fair swallow]

Echo thermy is harder then normal vardorvis

[tacit oyster]

vardovis just way higher mage defences

[shrewd ermine]

ngl, I found echo thermy easier

[thorn marsh]

With a full water thorns setup, but most of the damage at that point is coming from thorns..

Echo Thermy is just movement..

[low belfry]

So if I can get through echo thermy I should have no issue

[tacit oyster]

echo thermy can easily be cheesed with water mage too

[fair swallow]

The broodoo guys outside tai bwani place is harder then normal vardorvis

[chilly pine]

here's the full water thorns build with the echo thermy weapon and all 3 overheal nodes
https://tools.runescape.wiki/demonic-pacts/?n=1-10-100-11-112-113-114-122-139-140-141-145-146-44-45-46-55-56-58-59-6-60-68-7-71-8-81-84-9-92-93-94-95-96-99

[fair swallow]

[fast bridge]

do conflictions just drop from doom or do you need kandarin?

[tacit oyster]

doom drops them

[fair swallow]

Just drops

[tacit oyster]

kandarin players still need to make their tormented for task at some point

[shrewd ermine]

iirc if you just do the mechanics, the only damage you take is from its charge attack which can be healed with minimal food or powered staves.

[winged sinew]

honestly i would skip the 5 defence level one and pick the melee one

[thorn marsh]

Yea, Echo Thermy can't hurt you if you move and pray correctly..

[shrewd ermine]

confliction can drop on its own yeah. kandarin is still a good region though

[fair swallow]

@tacit oyster can you somehow take the cloth off the gauntlets?

[winged sinew]

i would switch to this (just my opinion)

[shrewd ermine]

can you make domic gorillas aggro you like they do before you finish MM2?

without hitting them first

[chilly pine]

with a goading potion

[tacit oyster]

echo thermy deals up to 50 damage per orb, reduced by 50% if you are on glyph and 50% if you have correct prayer

[shrewd ermine]

i didnt even notice

[shrewd ermine]

still, I want to do the 500 gorilla task

i'd like to do it afk

not sure if that's possible since the game autocompletes MM2 for you

[chilly pine]

https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Goading_potion#4_dose

[shrewd ermine]

ah

[tacit oyster]

are the ones in multi aggressive? or did they remove that too

[shrewd ermine]

also passive I think

yeah they are

[shrewd ermine]

ill keep this in mind. guessing there arent any alternatives?

ive never done mixology before. i assume it's fairly simple but just another thing added to my backlog

[chilly pine]

minion aoe can trigger them

[shrewd ermine]

minion isn't super reliable with that i dont think

since they die too quickly for minion to continuously have a target to splash

all good though, it is what it is

[rare hollow]

when i take flask and just boom

https://tenor.com/view/electrode-professor-oak-pokemon-pokémon-anime-gif-11146260012527299829

[winged sinew]

more like this and then full restore right after

[rare hollow]

hm dont have to

oh sorry nvm full restore i forgot it was a pokemon thing

[winged sinew]

i meant flask is full restore after

yeah

XD

I thought you knew pokemon

[rare hollow]

sorry Im way to into competitive pokemon so it just slipped my mind

[winged sinew]

yeah so you spam protect

[rare hollow]

disgusting stall

[winged sinew]

don't lie

you use it

[fickle thistle]

in doubles sure but in singles its sus

[rare hollow]

i just love watching doubles dude

[fickle thistle]

vgc is entertaining

[winged sinew]

I don't follow any of that scene

[rare hollow]

some people cook too good

[fickle thistle]

pick six bring four best format

[winged sinew]

anyway back to leagues

XD

[fickle thistle]

yes

back to mith dragon grinding for me

[rare hollow]

time to find a zalcano team

and cry about zalcano shard

[fickle thistle]

they run teams for that?

[rare hollow]

u cant do it in small teams lesser than 3-4 people it takes way too long

[winged sinew]

Runescape themed pokemon would be interesting

[rare hollow]

smaller teams give increased rates for uniques

[fickle thistle]

boss pet showdown

add bobble head barrows brothers pets

[winged sinew]

next they will add a 1/3000 for pet to be shiny 😅

[rare hollow]

so the best balance at zalcano is typically like 4-5 people

shiny pets lol i think the chinchompa has that mechanic

[winged sinew]

shiny boss pet, have to both roll for pet and then shiny

[rare hollow]

and then it ends up on boaty's account because he's just him

[fickle thistle]

so what makes the dfs bis for thorns? its tank stats?

[winged sinew]

for just thorns yes

[rare hollow]

its just a great shield

[winged sinew]

but you need to hit with mage as well (your build)

[rare hollow]

just a few things are better than in it terms of overall defense

thats why majority of thorn builds took tiranwnn simply for crystal shield which is absurd

[winged sinew]

dfs i guess

[rare hollow]

and very easy to acquire

[winged sinew]

that visage drop

[fast bridge]

why does ring of the gods (i) say it needs morytania

doesnt it just need wilderness/kandarin

[rare hollow]

u need to imbue it right

it needs the holy wrench

[fast bridge]

oh

[rare hollow]

yeah its just the one weird thing about imbuing specifically for the gods

do this quest so u can imbue it

like what?

but it gives an additional benefit of holy wrench when drinking ppots/super restore

so i guess thats fine

god i love sarachnis, more egg sacs plz

[thin walrus]

Anyone wanna trade kill at fight pit?

[rare hollow]

hm sure i already have it

but what world give me 2min just finishing up sarachnis task

[thin walrus]

Thanks 🙂 W731

[rare hollow]

yeah just wait there ill pop over in a minute

[thin walrus]

will do ,thank you

[rare hollow]

omw

[rare hollow]

disgusting

[covert wolf]

If you got it through searing boots, it's not disgusting

[cyan cobalt]

Imagine training agility in a limited game mode lol

[winged sinew]

i used the shoes, not in a course

I guess some would do it for task points

[rare hollow]

well i do have sepulchre so it wont be that terrible

maybe we some sanpews from it as well

[covert wolf]

Eww sepulchre

[fickle thistle]

Ardy rooftops is like 2m/h it’s how I finished off agility

[covert wolf]

I barely do any skilling with my relics

Only mining stars and afk fishing at wildy crab

Also Vale totem fletching I think

[pure karma]

we need forestry but for mining

[chilly pine]

the MINEstry of magic

[merry sphinx]

stop the dupes

[chilly pine]

ended up with 5 axes for 1 hp blindbag? 🤔

[covert wolf]

Get the real axe

SRA

[chilly pine]

I have it too now

[covert wolf]

But 1 HP blindbag kinda sus

[chilly pine]

still no top

[covert wolf]

Like to see it happen

[covert wolf]

Meanwhile I'm missing the other 2

[chilly pine]

and no pet yet either 😥

[covert wolf]

2 skilling pet and 1 boss pet on first league

[chilly pine]

which boss was it

[torpid trench]

Which build would work best for these regions?

[chilly pine]

you have both the crossbow and dogger weapon available for a build

[merry sphinx]

ig you could go range

[covert wolf]

Callisto

Came around 23kc

[torpid trench]

So maybe a crossbow-thorns-light weapon hybrid?

[merry sphinx]

u cant use thorns with the kbd echo

[chilly pine]

i dunno if you could fit it all in pacts, but probably

the kbd freeze benefits from water no?

[covert wolf]

Crossbow is 2 handed and thorns need shield

[torpid trench]

Yeah, but the dogger

[chilly pine]

dogger is fire build

[merry sphinx]

if you take the node that turns ice spells into water

[torpid trench]

Like full fire?

[tacit oyster]

the only way to make a hybrid build with those regions is dogger with thorns + acb/zcb

[merry sphinx]

some youtuber tried the dogger fire build

its ass

[torpid trench]

bbc build is what i currently have, but im not loving it

idc if its weak, i only care if its amusing

[tacit oyster]

like options are crossbow, blindbag with full bloodmoon, dogger or combination of those

[chilly pine]

do i dare ask what is the bbc build

[torpid trench]

big black crossbow

[merry sphinx]

they call the crossbow the bbc

[torpid trench]

https://tools.runescape.wiki/demonic-pacts/?n=1-10-11-112-113-114-123-14-15-17-18-2-21-24-29-30-31-39-4-44-46-56-59-60-68-7

[chilly pine]

ok phew, thought it might've been british broadcasting corporation

[torpid trench]

This is where im at currently, but that was from week 1

[covert wolf]

Big black crossbow

[torpid trench]

And im really not enjoying it a ton

its not terribly weak or anything, just... idk

[merry sphinx]

lfg finally a complete barrow set

[torpid trench]

[rare hollow]

the bfg stands for big f*kin cannon

https://tenor.com/view/doom-eternal-slayer-bfg-mars-gif-27375266

[covert wolf]

Looks nice enough

[chilly pine]

this game is unplayable

[rare hollow]

unrealistic monkeys are the most hostile creatures

just look at baba

[covert wolf]

Is it a monkey or is it a lion?

[rare hollow]

baboon

[covert wolf]

My first impression on looking at baba I just think it's a friggin lion

[fluid fable]

Babas a monki

His very proud of being monki

[rare hollow]

kinda odd to think that but I can see your pov

[fluid fable]

He is the reason ur magic carpets have monkis at them now

Ur welcome

[rare hollow]

if you took a really huge baboon and a lion together and see only their shadows

[covert wolf]

Furry head and 4 legged after all

[fluid fable]

Incredible

I wonder if theres even a single other animal that matches the criteria

[rare hollow]

https://tenor.com/view/behold-budgie-parakeet-hamster-turtle-gif-1588474602980024290

[fluid fable]

But he monki shaped:?

Broad chest

[rare hollow]

shaikahan raid when

[covert wolf]

Blood moon rise when

Player-made island when

[rare hollow]

rune spear kp bis

[rare hollow]

when we fix climate change

pretty sure blood moon is coming this year tho

[covert wolf]

I'm just gonna look forward the new runecrafting training method from player-made island see if it's boring or not

[fluid fable]

We're gonna fix climate change this year?

[rare hollow]

it'll be mid im sure

pog if true

[fluid fable]

U never know

Maybe itl be the greatest piece of content this games ever seen

Finally the mini game that just makes the game into a fps

[rare hollow]

who knows i just want to make that lowerniel drakan into a kebab and finish this storyline once and for all

[fluid fable]

Litterally just doom

And u get rc xp for some reason

[rare hollow]

ty ty for rc xp

[fluid fable]

U wanna eat a drakan kebab?

[shrewd ermine]

going to grind out gargoyles. how do you access the rooftop?

[fluid fable]

Walk to and click

[chilly pine]

key drops from regular gargoyles

[shrewd ermine]

wiki says you can use ivy but it doesnt take me to the very top

[pure karma]

evil eye to the boss

[fluid fable]

My leagues has come to a grinding halt

[shrewd ermine]

i dont have it

[chilly pine]

walking up is the shortcut at the walking hands, then walking to the staircase at aberrant spectres

[fluid fable]

Revs is 1 in 24k drop

[pure karma]

get to walking

[fluid fable]

Brother what

[rare hollow]

do u have mushroom from nature's accord

[covert wolf]

Sounds like cheating

[rare hollow]

get a revs task and skull up

[fleet ibex]

There’s a climb outside the tower to the left of the entrance

[fluid fable]

Why the skull?

[rare hollow]

improves rate

[fluid fable]

Interesting

[fleet ibex]

It goes all the way up

[covert wolf]

Rev doesn't take me that long

[chilly pine]

but if you're on slayer task, there's a basement you can kill gargoyles for the key too

[shrewd ermine]

this doesnt take me to the roof if ur talking about this

just here

[covert wolf]

Less than 2k kc dragons

[fleet ibex]

Oh for the normal gargoyles

[fluid fable]

Mm

[fleet ibex]

Mb thought you meant grotesque

[fluid fable]

Im just gonna keep playing other games

[shrewd ermine]

well I want to do grotesque

[fluid fable]

Grinds lost my interest

[shrewd ermine]

but idk how to get to the roof but i assume this is what you mean

[rare hollow]

just watch a guide

[shrewd ermine]

only way i know how is with the key

[fluid fable]

Ill come back to it when theres 3 days left in league with a fevered grind

[chilly pine]

the big yellow crayon square on your screen is to grotesque, which you need brittle key from regular gargoyles for to open

[covert wolf]

Just get a task, teleport North with Rev teleport and kill 2 dragon alone with bbc

[fleet ibex]

Oh yeah that’s the only way

You need the key to fight them

[shrewd ermine]

ah okay :(

[covert wolf]

You can actually one shot the dragon which makes BBC ideal weapon to use

[rare hollow]

key rate is boosted in leagues so have fun with that

[covert wolf]

And better to do it alone so you can secure both dragon fast kill

[fluid fable]

Whats bbc?

[covert wolf]

Big black crossbow

[fluid fable]

Isnt that a certain genre of video

Hmm

O wait kings thingy

[covert wolf]

Ye

[fluid fable]

Ye i spos i could grab that

Ill do it later maybe

Kick the bucket down the road

[covert wolf]

I'll stop playing league for now and focus on my main

[next dust]

Yes? The British Broadcasting Corporation

[covert wolf]

Just 2 more skills for max but I'm sure my butler can deal with it

[fluid fable]

Def the one i was thinkin of ye

[merry sphinx]

just gimmie the claw brother

[covert wolf]

I'll come back when I can get my BBC build back

If they give out another respec

[austere depot]

Between avarice, rev task and possibly blue skull you'll be one shotting them quite often, two shot should be guaranteed-ish, also if you got the whole king's barrage heal setup you can forgo bracelet for void too tbh

[covert wolf]

Weak

[merry sphinx]

3 hilts tho

[covert wolf]

Also isn't Callisto better rate?

[merry sphinx]

only have 150 charges on my accursed lol

cba to do revs

[covert wolf]

Took me 699 callisto kills to get a hilt

[toxic vortex]

Back on the barb fishing grind

[covert wolf]

Eww

Barb fishing

Wait

[austere depot]

I swear I see these numbers and that's gotta be masses right

[covert wolf]

I think it's normal for non barbarian gathering people

[toxic vortex]

I mean like actual barb fishing

50 hours for 99 agility

[covert wolf]

Masses for only around 50kc the rest solo

[austere depot]

That's almost 10x dry then, wild

[covert wolf]

Ye

Too much claws and rings

12 rings 11 claws

[merry sphinx]

claws obtained

[toxic vortex]

Nice

I'm trying to decide what to do next

[merry sphinx]

100th artio kill exactly

[toxic vortex]

I hit 40 pacts last night

[covert wolf]

I really want another respec so that I can use BBC again

[merry sphinx]

nice

[covert wolf]

Killing corps with water thorns is not ideal

[merry sphinx]

havent done grotesque guardians in years

can you melee the whole fight?

or do u need range to kill the flying one

[indigo nimbus]

if you have halberd or double range pact you can melee

[merry sphinx]

alright ty

[shrewd ermine]

to farm the guardians, should I use blade of sael since magic doesnt work? i know thorns can do the trick too

[toxic vortex]

What guardians

[shrewd ermine]

grotesque

i think it's my best melee weapon since I dont have scythe or anything like that

[fleet anvil]

What's everyone doing with their extra eternal teleport crystals? Anything we can do with them?

[covert wolf]

Trade it with NPC to turn into crystal shards

[potent quail]

Or sell them for gp

[covert wolf]

Farm some crystal armor seed from cg, make some armor, break it and take the seed back, repeat the process
It's for free crafting and smithing exp

[fleet anvil]

Oh you can trade in the eternal crystal teleports as well? Thought it was just the enhanced seeds

[chilly pine]

ye the non-echo boss has to be killed with melee, the echo boss you can just farm with mage/range

[covert wolf]

I suppose echo hunleff was the hardest echo boss of em all?

[fast bridge]

what do you void/kings players go for third area, kandarin for jewelry?

[pure karma]

kan is for easy game

water thorns will let you afk everything

[next dust]

So are specs on ranged weapons able to regen ammo and cause echos I wonder

Cause knives

[toxic vortex]

If you did the actual fight probably yeah

[smoky swift]

thought playing with randomizer would be fun im pretty miserable now

[onyx falcon]

do the searing boots count as warm clothing for wintertodt?

[covert wolf]

It should be

[indigo nimbus]

moon boppers work well

[covert wolf]

Honestly I don't really care about wintertodt clothing I just go in with my masori gear

[rare hollow]

warm? no
drip? yes

[jovial bone]

"Cook 100 swordfish", is that meant to be successfully cook 100 swordfish?

[rare hollow]

ye

[jovial bone]

I see

[fickle thistle]

I’m slowly losing my marbles in this dragon cave

Visage pls

[toxic vortex]

I need to start trying for that

[rare hollow]

visafe

[fickle thistle]

Focusing on upgrades I can get my hands on now before raiding for justiciar

[fleet ibex]

There’s a shop at sunset coast that sells fish right next to a cooking station

If you don’t have enough swordfish

[jovial bone]

Yeah will do

[covert wolf]

I don't see any point of keeping warm clothing when the potion is free to use

[merry sphinx]

dont u take a lot of damage without 4 pieces

[fleet ibex]

Also less interrupts

[pure karma]

can EH not have forestry events

[rare hollow]

you need to get the forestry bag

but eh can get

[civic juniper]

Is there any benefit to having more than 100% accuracy or charges regeneration when selecting demonic pacts?

[frozen verge]

does culling spree stack with slayer helm?

[merry sphinx]

wathing faux put me off lol

[chilly pine]

no

[frozen verge]

aite good to know

[chilly pine]

it works additive so % above 100 for regen can give a chance at a second regen, but 100% is fine
for accuracy you want to have as much as possible

[civic juniper]

Awesome thank you!

[smoky swift]

lol i wasnt even gonna play leagues but rando convinced me

[polar night]

99 crafting, wiki says i should have 94.14% chance of succesfully cutting red topaz. Got 116 uncut topaz, statistics says i should have 109 cut red topaz, my RNG went out da window when i got my draconic visage last night cause i damaged like 11 :p

Also, did droprates increase or did i actually waste my RNG with a 1/10k drop at skeletal wyverns?

Disregard me, i am an idiot, drop rate did increase

[pure karma]

i wonder if people wcing around me without the forestry kit is affecting my spawn rates for events

there are two EH afkers

[copper gorge]

People wcing the same tree is what triggers the forestry events

More people on same tree, more likely an event triggers.

Genuinely. Forestry during leagues sounds miserable 🤣

[pure karma]

they give a ton of exp

[rich spear]

It is when EH exists

[pure karma]

but sadly no one is cutting teaks here other than me

[tacit oyster]

sadly like 1/3rd of events require solo to complete for league task

too many people afking in the common spots so cannot complete them

[rich spear]

Yeah like sapling

Anything that says complete is basically that

[torpid trench]

https://dps.osrs.wiki?id=PrisonersZamorakianBrimhaven

Can someone explain to me how this setup is reaching such insane max hit numbers like 500+?

[tacit oyster]

max hit assumes all echo hits or blindbag attacks max hitting and getting "max" chain

[torpid trench]

ooooh

[tacit oyster]

melee blindbag + echoes can get to like 4k max hit if you win lottery

[torpid trench]

Is there an easy way to see the dps of just the loadout, and not include the echoes?

[rare hollow]

we're not winning that lottery lol

must be rarer than 3rd age

just assume we only get like 50% of that max dps if lucky

in 1 blow

[torpid trench]

i think the reason im not liking the bbc, and didnt care for blindbag when i tried it a bit, is that i dont like waiting around for rng to let me do things

like if I do 40% of my potential, and then 1/100,000 times I do 100%, that just feels bad to me

[deep basin]

flask is so insane

i'm literally reducing the cooldown by like 6 seconds per 2ticks

[rich spear]

I love flask as a reset at least and as a carry at best

[deep basin]

i just use it as a free dps

[rich spear]

If I didn't pick flask echo hunlief would have been a bitch

[cloud basin]

Is there a way to reset league progress?

I made a new acc yesterday I have regrets my friend and I decided to shift things around

[tacit oyster]

no reset for area or relic unlocks. you do get some demonic pact point resets

[pure karma]

nope

[cloud basin]

Just full wipe

Start over

[pure karma]

have to play an alt

[cloud basin]

That's what I did

Now I think I made some poor choices

Got 1 day into it

So I'd have to buy another....

Which is...

Lame

[lone bloom]

just stick to your choices and make the best of it

[old tapir]

if you have some money in either main game you can bond up an account

[lone bloom]

i regret wilderness and wish i had taken mory

[old tapir]

instead of paying cash

do clues on rs3 for 5 hours and there's 2 weeks of free league gaming lol

[lone bloom]

everyone was saying how easy wildy is but its all rng based tasks and i went dry on everything in there, + getting pked at the bosses

[indigo nimbus]

wildy was so boring

[lone bloom]

and theres only 2 banks so have fun running to everything

[indigo nimbus]

the bosses were a joke without constant raggers

[old tapir]

where's ring of eternal dueling when you need it

[lone bloom]

wildy bosses are camped to hell on every world and when you do find a free world, you're pked for it in 5 mins

[old tapir]

i don't get why they kept pvp on

[tacit oyster]

make poh jewellery box

[old tapir]

it does nothing

[fluid fable]

Its fun

[old tapir]

infact i might have went wildy if it was off

good opportunity to explore the content without the worst part of the game in the mix

[fluid fable]

Yeh im liking wildy

Never been there before really

So u just dawdle around

[lone bloom]

theres a ton of points in getting all the wildy uniques but even with boosted rates some of them are like 1/3000 and you have to compete with other players

[tacit oyster]

they would need to add instances to wildy bosses if they remove pvp

[fluid fable]

And all the bosses have people there, so u just go in chat for a while

[indigo nimbus]

if you dont have flask, dont you just die immediately to flask burst in wildy?

cant pray against it

[fluid fable]

They try to kill u for leaching or whatever but like. Its league

Ur immortal

[pure karma]

whats the point of this outfit

[fluid fable]

And then go back to chatting

[lone bloom]

fashionscape

[pure karma]

im calling the fashion police cause its ugly

[lone bloom]

u r

[old tapir]

im just mining for no reason right now

i should just finish my points and then get back to the princely monkey grind on main

[lone bloom]

i got 50m mining at gems full afk

[old tapir]

81mil and counting lol

[fluid fable]

I think the highlight of my wildy playtime was litterally sitting - the action- against vetion

While 2 other guys were killing him

[indigo nimbus]

just doing duke for mage ring

[fluid fable]

I was getting better drops then they were

He drops his lil beams next to u, so ur getting dmg in with thorns. But unless its a direct hit, it rarely is. It doesnt sisrupt ur sit

[lone bloom]

i crashed someone at callisto and got the voidwaker piece on my first kc there, while the other guy was 200+ dry lol s o that was fun

[fluid fable]

Xd

I got skull and blade in like 100 kills

No dragon 2 hander tho, which was the only reason i was there

[lone bloom]

d2h is most common from chaos ele

1/12

[fluid fable]

Ye i was just dawdling around never been in wildy b4

[tacit oyster]

worth doing 1 run of pp every time i got hard clue there

[fluid fable]

Went down a hole, found vetion like. Wow this is this guy huh

Then looked up his table

[indigo nimbus]

feel like im not getting that magus ring any time soon, a virtus + soulreaper piece in <50 kc

[graceful lynx]

how do i get a law talisman

[fickle thistle]

If I go past delve 8 does it roll the same odds for a unique as if it were an 8

[tacit oyster]

can be acquired again from Dunstan in Burthorpe for 1000 coins

[old tapir]

you rolled one ring basically on rate atleast

two to go

[indigo nimbus]

did anyone do a blindbag thorns build?

[tacit oyster]

i think there are few saeldor thorns builds

[rare hollow]

yeah me

[rich spear]

I have 4 resets and 2 enhanced

[rare hollow]

its not too shabby

[rich spear]

So I made one a saeldor

[harsh oyster]

enhanced?

[rare hollow]

its just a hybrid so dont expect bis damage or total brain off

[rich spear]

Enhanced crystal weapon seed

[harsh oyster]

ah

[rare hollow]

its just something i took to try and maximize dps while still having some good sustain

ill be shortly respeccing after im done doing content thats extremely difficult tho

[rich spear]

I need to go back btw because I'm missing one armor seed but I was going to do zulrah first and have serp

Still waiting for bp

[indigo nimbus]

which areas did you take?

[rare hollow]

Tiran mory and kourend

Kourend wasn't really critical to the build just for cox fun and 1 elder maul

[indigo nimbus]

kourend for?

makes sense

[rare hollow]

Just that most of my cc mates love cox more than tob

So majority took kourend

And I could have gone kandarin for suffering but eh fun > thorns

[indigo nimbus]

yeah, i shoulda done that on my main league, picked areas i wanted to practice to do on my main main

[rare hollow]

Besides like I said ima respec so I'll be going nox hally blind bag later

[rich spear]

I wanted to do mory but I saw barrows grind and then pnm

[rare hollow]

The damage is too stupid lol

[indigo nimbus]

instead went meta so i had to make an alt

[rich spear]

And I noped out of it

[rare hollow]

Yeah I took moru to learn pnm actually