5 hars
#leagues-general
covert night
tawdry carbon
gzzzzz coolest looking piece
languid belfry
Nah we figured it out. It's the thorns passive that randomly reflects damage by reducing it to 0.
That procs a 2 prayer regen lol
shrewd ermine
gzzzzz coolest looking piece
fleet ibex
Cause I’m not a water mage
languid belfry
It's like a 11-12% chance.
fleet ibex
torpid trench
So its a build issue 
tawdry carbon
the air rune node is very good
scenic garden
you're avoiding sol hits? 
torpid trench
wait like reg therm?
languid belfry
and the answer was: "When you start doing content where the enemies don't hit you."
tawdry carbon
trust
languid belfry
but that's also pretty rare where it matters
shrewd ermine
im thinking about for pacts atp maxing out either the two accuracy nodes near the water tree or bridging into the 3 nodes near the ranged area: =
languid belfry
ToA I think is where it started happenign, but even then it's kind of "meh".
fleet ibex
One day I hope all you water mages get nerfed into the ground so that the true melee chads can reign supreme
languid belfry
realistically since I have flask
shrewd ermine
languid belfry
I just
if I aggressively flask instead of defensively
I never run out of prayer anyway lol
plus flask damage scales off thorns
So even more water + thorns winning
shrewd ermine
??
scenic garden
you're missing out on alot of accuracy
shrewd ermine
yeah ik
torpid trench
if I aggressively flask instead of defensively
honestly this was my first thought when i saw the flask effects. I didnt even really consider the survival tech of it until I saw someone else do it and was like 
Bro youre alive?
tawdry carbon
too much prayer pen not enough accuracy
languid belfry
Realistically this is my endgame.
fickle thistle
How many 50 mil skills do you need for dragon
fleet ibex
trust bro
Swapping out the 5% echo chance for a accuracy node might give more dps for some stuff
tawdry carbon
we got a new respec today i think
languid belfry
honestly this was my first thought when i saw the flask effects. I didnt even re...
the survival tech was bugged till today
where dot ticks/etc would kill you
torpid trench
shrewd ermine
Realistically this is my endgame.
true, I could respect and get rid of those two nodes here
languid belfry
true, I could respect and get rid of those two nodes here
what no
the overheal are core to the build
lol
toxic vortex
oh shit you dont even have to pluck the chompies
low osprey
With endless/hotfoot to people still primarily afk iron ore?
tawdry carbon
bro what kc did u guys get your conflictions e_e
dusky coral
Am I weird for intentionally tryna go for niche builds and not the metas?
languid belfry
With endless/hotfoot to people still primarily afk iron ore?
Yes, best rates.
shrewd ermine
went a weird apth up
tbf I did it at the time to speedrun gauntlet
fleet ibex
Am I weird for intentionally tryna go for niche builds and not the metas?
No, you’re based
shrewd ermine
made more sense because thorns is useless in CG
spring cipher
languid belfry
...god it really is funny that I can be sitting in mage gear (Ahrim's) and flask still ticks for 67x3
I should put on actual tank armor/farm Justicars
shrewd ermine
going to build out this for now as a quick win
languid belfry
and see what it ticks lmao
languid belfry
going to build out this for now as a quick win
yeah
pick the accuracy nodes up lol
Also I hate that I'm actually afking mith dragons
shrewd ermine
I guess now I can either focus my echo bosses or work on the varlamore stuff. not looking forward to fighting vardorvis but this was before I had shadowflame
languid belfry
what have you people done to me
cursive lotus
why is my crossbow only hitting a 38 in against royal titans
dusky coral
actually u know what, I think I'll just gonna go for the best build first to destroy all PVM stuff and THEN have fun with niche builds
languid belfry
I guess now I can either focus my echo bosses or work on the varlamore stuff. no...
you don't need to do any awakened boss for pact points.
Do the deep delve and fortiss colosseum instead
for your points lol
shrewd ermine
you don't need to do any awakened boss for pact points.
well you do need awakened vardorvis once
shrewd ermine
yeah I see now
shrewd ermine
I think this is what I should do
languid belfry
yeah
shrewd ermine
I could do the jad challenge too tbf
languid belfry
I mean I'd just do jad special challenge tbh
shrewd ermine
if I get that powered staff
toxic vortex
i managed awakened vard with blindbag
languid belfry
but that's also just my own preference
you can do it with water
lol
it's just a bit longer
shrewd ermine
I think I'll start with doom then avernic threads/echo whatstheirname
since iirc they drop by the same person
cursive lotus
Anyone know of a crossbow bug limiting the max hit against royal titans?
gilded totem
Hellllll yeah
tawdry carbon
gzzzz
gilded totem
5 pacts to go
winged sinew
my 38th pact point was the 3rd challenge, 39 was the avernic threads nd 40th was the inferno
tawdry carbon
nope lmao
tawdry carbon
actually there is <a:BugCatWOAH:1301407443292520458>
lmk if it works
dusky coral
0 in stock btw
shrewd ermine
tawdry carbon
shrewd ermine
-# poop
winged sinew
I didn't even use the ring at inferno
harsh oyster
shrewd ermine
i forgot to equip a cape and bracelet but I still did inferno
winged sinew
i forgot to turn the rign of suffering on
tawdry carbon
ok so is it 1/25 deep delves for conlficts?
i.e. if i go to wave 30 something i have a p good chance?
shrewd ermine
just putting on ring for a bit extra dps. I assume with my build I can just facetank doom for the most part
winged sinew
just putting on ring for a bit extra dps. I assume with my build I can just face...
yes, chees the booss
harsh oyster
ok so is it 1/25 deep delves for conlficts?
what are you asking here
shrewd ermine
tawdry carbon
what are you asking here
the boosted drop rates
harsh oyster
what drop are you asking about though
shrewd ermine
I cant read this but this is probably what you want
toxic vortex
i.e. if i go to wave 30 something i have a p good chance?
it doesn't really work like that
tawdry carbon
i dont mean pity just odds
toxic vortex
theres a diminishing return for pushing deep delves vs increased rates
shrewd ermine
didnt someone say just run up 8 and rinse and repeat a while back?
tawdry carbon
8 or 9
harsh oyster
i didnt even know confliction could drop directly from doom, thought they could only bee crafted
shrewd ermine
they said 8
toxic vortex
Probably something like that
ancient wolf
Teaks are the best xp/hr for wc right?
harsh oyster
yea
winged sinew
bro im so slow
it is about having fun
past forge
do i still wanan aim for same % as mainscape for barrows?
shrewd ermine
i didnt even know confliction could drop directly from doom, thought they could ...
league specific for people who dont have kandarin
harsh oyster
yes
toxic vortex
halfway on my chompies
harsh oyster
league specific for people who dont have kandarin
ah
shrewd ermine
just like toxic trident
tawdry carbon
damnit
languid belfry
https://i.gyazo.com/2a48fa42e31b016907ecfce7ff690bc5.png ffffffffffff I was AFK putting laundry in the drier. NOOO
tawdry carbon
the only one i dont want
harsh oyster
wait what
languid belfry
It despawned.
toxic vortex
you can dismantle it for more tears
harsh oyster
what does toxic trident drop from
toxic vortex
zulrah
scenic garden
I cant read this but this is probably what you want
so would that mean it's 1/22 for confliction gauntlets per floor? effectively 6/22 or 7/22 (however it's counted) by floor 8?
shrewd ermine
^
past forge
was that yes to me?
shrewd ermine
so would that mean it's 1/22 for confliction gauntlets per floor? effectively 6/...
ive never done doom so idk
harsh oyster
what does it normally drop from?
harsh oyster
was that yes to me?
yes
tawdry carbon
what does it _normally_ drop from?
zulrah drops fang kraken drops trident
bug it drops completed from zolrah
in ladder
shrewd ermine
^
harsh oyster
i see
scenic garden
what does it _normally_ drop from?
was moreso asking for anyone that does know with the link for the graph
tawdry carbon
2 to go!
shrewd ermine
tawdry carbon
does ayak count as demonbane ?
tawdry carbon
I wasted a visage drop while afk putting in laundry
omg your visafe
minion bro... one reason i grabbed minion
languid belfry
that's infinite bad karma
tawdry carbon
i did not want to get visafe'd
scenic garden
I wasted a visage drop while afk putting in laundry
time for another 2k kills
shrewd ermine
is eye of ayak the best powered staff that's 1 hand?
languid belfry
It's okay it never happened
languid belfry
is eye of ayak the best powered staff that's 1 hand?
ehh
it's kind of shit this league unless you do weird shit
tawdry carbon
lithic or sang imo
winged sinew
https://i.gyazo.com/2a48fa42e31b016907ecfce7ff690bc5.png ffffffffffff I was AFK...
this is why you need some way to be notified when it drops
languid belfry
this is why you need some way to be notified when it drops
I have it setup
but laundry is downstairs
lol
shrewd ermine
it's kind of shit this league unless you do weird shit
ayak has more attack accuracy though
harsh oyster
how do you avoid prayer drain at vardorvis i have not figured this out
fickle thistle
Freedom from the Bwans
winged sinew
but laundry is downstairs
even if you are downm stairs
tawdry carbon
wait so do i complete level 8 or 9 for best odds and repeat
shrewd ermine
lithic or sang imo
i know tumek isnt as good because it's slower atk speed but looking at the wiki ayak has 30 magic whereas sang has 20.
winged sinew
yes
languid belfry
But I also didn't expect it to drop in 150 kills
...Let's just reset my loot tracker
winged sinew
I need like push to phone notifications
this is easy
shrewd ermine
is it because sang has lifesteal?
winged sinew
But I also didn't expect it to drop in 150 kills
well you should
covert night
is 225 arraxor kills and no hally blade normal for leagues 5x?
toxic vortex
no
tawdry carbon
that doth not be normal
covert night
🙁
languid belfry
Alright I'm going to run downstairs again real fast.
There's no way a second visage drops right
winged sinew
Alright I'm going to run downstairs again real fast.
no
winged sinew
There's no way a second visage drops right
probably not
harsh oyster
There's no way a second visage drops right
it will be so
covert night
i have 5 heads, 3 jars, 4 rancours, pommel, point, coag venom, but no blade at 225....
winged sinew
but why risk it?
covert night
how much am i past rate?
languid belfry
I am safe.
nothing dropped
Man I can't believe I never killed 255 mithril dragons
how weird
languid belfry
nice
winged sinew
GZZ
robust fern
now where's the button to transfer pet to main game
dusky coral
over there
dusky coral
cool
scenic garden
I would think so
winged sinew
Man I can't believe I never killed 255 mithril dragons
just setup a better notofications system t avoid this from happpening again
toxic vortex
36 chompies left
scenic garden
36 chompies left
just making sure, you know the chompy kills are multiplied by minigame multi?
toxic vortex
not noted
shrewd ermine
toxic vortex
yes
toxic vortex
I got treads on main game on like, a lvl 5 or 6
scenic garden
my first run I had a dragon med helm, should have dipped to keep that
barren mountain
40kc echo therm.. no drops.. incoming carpal tunnel
winged sinew
its horrible
it is not that bad'
tawdry carbon
my first run I had a dragon med helm, should have dipped to keep that
why?
tawdry carbon
ah yea
but wait
ur 3rd region is tob
Why not just get justi
or inqui
slayer helm too on task
uinless u picked culling
T = visafe?
serp visafe
scenic garden
would serp helm be better than d full helm?
toxic vortex
100%
winged sinew
would serp helm be better than d full helm?
for tob?
scenic garden
that's the one drop I have left to get from zulrah
winged sinew
that's the one drop I have left to get from zulrah
i would send you one of mine IF i could
wet parrot
is there a tob world?
tawdry carbon
yes
tawdry carbon
the us one is the most active in my expy
cosmic shoal
how do i get the league dramen staff
tawdry carbon
how do i get the league dramen staff
tutor
cosmic shoal
he didnt have it
wet parrot
what world lol
tawdry carbon
its one of hte options he should give u a bunch of stuff
tawdry carbon
what world lol
what continent
tawdry carbon
658 US
scenic garden
he didnt have it
he does. I've gotten dupes
he also has the combat task stuff but you need to go thru talk options for that
remote cove
https://i.gyazo.com/2a48fa42e31b016907ecfce7ff690bc5.png ffffffffffff I was AFK...
the best advertisement for minion
cosmic shoal
do I ask for Combat items?
rigid knot
Is there a world for shades of mort'ton?
winged sinew
the best advertisement for minion
yea but yk you can just have a notification when it drops
scenic garden
Is there a world for shades of mort'ton?
try a busy world
languid belfry
the best advertisement for minion
Pretty much.
tawdry carbon
https://i.gyazo.com/2a48fa42e31b016907ecfce7ff690bc5.png ffffffffffff I was AFK...
reasosn i got minion
rigid knot
try a busy world
That worked! ❤️
languid belfry
It's okay I reset the loot tracker so it's like the drop never happened.
tawdry carbon
it got reworked right ?
languid belfry
tawdry carbon
<:DWcopium:1190137151409639544>
scenic garden
apparently there is a shades world, 676
toxic vortex
10 left
toxic vortex
i have to do the quest
winged sinew
quest is very short
tawdry carbon
i stil ahvent done tai bwo wanna trio btw
or any easy diaries
🤣
okokok after avernic treads
bossing si too fun
toxic vortex
6 more
winged sinew
or any easy diaries
but the dairys help with bossing indirectly
tawdry carbon
i know
i just like bossing
even on main game i rushed quests only to unlock bosses/raids
im weird
backwards ass player
rigid knot
apparently there is a shades world, 676
Unfortunately , w400 was way busier at Mort'ton.
scenic garden
yea, lots of people probly don't bother looking at the world list
or don't see this
winged sinew
but the dairies help with bossing indirectly like cheaper gem at karamja to get onyx to get decent jewlet
tawdry carbon
yea i just did that while doing other stuff
i transmuted the runes while doing fire cape
winged sinew
i transmuted the runes while doing fire cape
nice
harsh oyster
i refuse to look at tai bwo wannai trio
scenic garden
98 cooking, final stretch
harsh oyster
i did it on main and thats good enough for me. if i want 99 cooking ill just stand at a fishing spot with hotfoot boots
tawdry carbon
me too dregg lol
toxic vortex
time to make a summer pie
winged sinew
What boses can my build not kill or struggle in the KTM region? I have all 40 points to spend and i have 2 resets so I have I come to you chat the allmighty, what should I reset my build into if i were to use a respecc?
earnest hull
currently in neypotzli and for whichever reason my cooking and herblore actions aren't being done automatically like they do in the main game
is there a toggle i missed somewhere or is this just a bug?
tawdry carbon
its slow/weird like that if there is a toggle im unaware of it
dusky coral
yeah im also experiencing that bug as well
tawdry carbon
is it a bug or intended lol
dusky coral
definitely a bug
tawdry carbon
What boses can my build not kill or struggle in the KTM region? I have all 40 po...
pnm and tob willb e slow
dusky coral
it normally wasn't like that in main game
(too lazy to check if that also happens in main)
winged sinew
pnm and tob willb e slow
I am thinking of trying tob and pnn
what should i reset into?
tawdry carbon
pnm isnt bad just slow
and tob is slow youre just getting carreid by pl w more dps
esp hmt
but lithic with 1tick is decent clear on nylos!
scenic garden
currently in neypotzli and for whichever reason my cooking and herblore actions ...
I recall one of the known bugs having to do with that, but also thought I saw them say it was fixed
earnest hull
(too lazy to check if that also happens in main)
checked an hour ago and it still works fine on normal worlds
dusky coral
well damn, that's definitely a leagues bug then
scenic garden
I haven't had any issues with cooking and herblore working auto in there
bug report, maybe they'll have a fix for it by next week
dusky coral
gz gz
scenic garden
now claim before you rip it lol
tawdry carbon
i did
ancient wolf
should I spam corrupted gauntlet for crystal armor seeds? 🤔 cause that's like super easy
ancient wolf
lmao I already went over this earlier in here on how I cannot do echo gauntlet
winged sinew
and tob is slow youre just getting carreid by pl w more dps
i was thinking of doign pnn and ob
tawdry carbon
i was thinking of doign pnn and ob
pnm is gross, tob as water thorns is milquetoast
scenic garden
pnn?
tawdry carbon
phosani nightmare i think hes saying
question:
you get melee xp off the first thorns node right?
scenic garden
where's the other n?
tawdry carbon
i think he means to say pnm
gilded totem
So when does Echo Yama show up?
tawdry carbon
nevr
gilded totem
There has to be a reason none of the T8 relics work on him. I didn't choose Kourend
winged sinew
yes i meant pnm
gilded totem
Player Nurses Monster?
winged sinew
phosani's nightmare
yes
dusky coral
yeah yeah, big phos
tawdry carbon
beest source of sunlight splinties is spamming colo right?
scenic garden
ye
winged sinew
what build is best for tob and pnm? I have 40 pact points and 2 resets left
tawdry carbon
i did blindbag but blindbag sustain feels horrible
past birch
Yeah for tob sustain is king
past birch
That's for good players but noobs need sustain
And 90% of players are noobs in leagues
tawdry carbon
solution: flask of fervor, dps
smoky raft
fun is king
past birch
solution: flask of fervor, dps
This works
winged sinew
And 90% of players are noobs in leagues
who cares, leagues has long been a tool to get new players into the main game so it is working well
past birch
No one cares tbh it's just a fact lol
winged sinew
No one cares tbh it's just a fact lol
saying noobs are playing makes you sound elitelist and new players as something bad
past birch
without gwd i can't really crush the oathplate for the shard?
Crush oath? you can do that?
past birch
saying noobs are playing makes you sound elitelist and new players as something ...
idc how that sound tbh it's fine to be a noob
smoky raft
yeah I didn't get a hostile vibe at all tbh
past birch
you crush dupe for 50 but you need 450 to forge one
Oh this works in the main game?
toxic vortex
mains can just sell the dupe
winged sinew
yeah I didn't get a hostile vibe at all tbh
Nobody like to be called a noob if they are, you are clearly not one if them
Just look at other games like counter strike noob is used as a insult to son
scenic garden
why are there so many slayer areas that aren't multi?
past birch
It's not like it's a slur or anything it's a harmless word
toxic vortex
yeah, you noob
winged sinew
it is quite harmless
static notch
hilt doko
winged sinew
yeah, you noob
I am 🙁
winged sinew
And 90% of players are noobs in leagues
what I meant when i replied to this was more like, call them new players or newcomer, in the end we want more people to play right?
it just a slight shift in how to view new players instead of calling them noobs
toxic vortex
bought to go get my crystal hally
remote cove
5 more KC to 600KC no lance :')
tawdry carbon
where do you reclaim league pets if no ardy ?
winged sinew
yeah I didn't get a hostile vibe at all tbh
the word noob is normally used as a insult in competetive games to say they are bad at the game and being new is a major reason (we were all noobs) at some point
remote cove
league tutor? i think
tawdry carbon
they are auto insured right
remote cove
ye
tawdry carbon
awakened vard is fun
tawdry carbon
gz
remote cove
FINALLY
tawdry carbon
gzzzzz
remote cove
oops
remote cove
truly
ancient wolf
what's the best ore to mine to get to 99? doing iron was getting me like I think 1mil+ an hour
winged sinew
what's the best ore to mine to get to 99? doing iron was getting me like I think...
iron
remote cove
iron is the fastest yes
toxic vortex
alright, technically only need 5 more agility levels and I can do ardy elite
remote cove
iron ore, teak for wc, fly fishing salmon for fishing
toxic vortex
I need shades done, and more barrows pieces for mory elite
smoky raft
I think gem rocks w/ a glory is faster than iron but only by a little
remote cove
oh yeah that too, I did iron cause hotfoot
scenic garden
and you'd need kandarin, wildy, or recharge scrolls from clues to charge the glory I think
unless the trimmed glory from clues is charged
smoky raft
and you'd need kandarin, wildy, or recharge scrolls from clues to charge the glo...
or grimoire or fremmy
ancient wolf
I randomly found a shooting star in priff
peak crypt
Just finished up echo thermy. Loved that boss to death. Found it very enjoyable. People were telling me it was comparable to echo hunleff. But screw that boss. I hated every bit of that
winged sinew
I randomly found a shooting star in priff
Were you the first one to find it?
ancient wolf
Yes
smoky raft
guys I'm out of beer :(
fickle thistle
Just finished up echo thermy. Loved that boss to death. Found it very enjoyable....
I love echo thermy but after 30kc my hand starts to hurt lmao
ancient wolf
It's a size-9 and I've mined it 68% of the way
past birch
what I meant when i replied to this was more like, call them new players or newc...
Fair point
scenic garden
Just finished up echo thermy. Loved that boss to death. Found it very enjoyable....
only comparable in complexity, but much easier, tho I wouldn't directly compare to two tbf
peak crypt
Echo hunleff has too much going on. Specifically with the floor tiles changing. Sometimes you just get stuck in a bad spot and nothing you can do. But thermy was nice. Very consistent. Very fun
torpid trench
I came here to get sanfews, roughly 1/40
smoky raft
echo thermy scratches my rhythm game itch
past birch
I just ran a toa where we failed to beat the timer so we lost the secured purples, however I got one anyways and was the last mega
rotund marsh
anyone having issues with the 100+ magic attack master clue step or know if its bugged
scenic garden
I love echo thermy but after 30kc my hand starts to hurt lmao
I started afking it after I for quadrant
past birch
anyone having issues with the 100+ magic attack master clue step or know if its ...
It doesn't count magic that comes from pacts
toxic vortex
@rotund marsh I've done that step a couple of times
scenic garden
didn't have the patience for 30 more kills of those mechanics
past birch
You gotta achieve 100+ magic the old way
Same happens with ghommal step requiring 100 str bonus
scenic garden
anyone having issues with the 100+ magic attack master clue step or know if its ...
you need to have 100+ on your gear screen
rotund marsh
i do have 100+
past birch
you need to have 100+ on your gear screen
Actually no that includes pacts
scenic garden
magic damage affects attack bonus?
past birch
You have to have +100 without including pacts so you just gotta add yourself
peak crypt
So, now that I have thermy, hunleff, and demonic gorillas done. Anything else I need for prayer pen? Or can I spec out of it now? lol
scenic garden
or the accuracy ones I guess
peak crypt
Aside from doom grubs
past birch
magic damage affects attack bonus?
No but there's maybe a pact that boosts mage accuracy idk which one
smoky raft
So, now that I have thermy, hunleff, and demonic gorillas done. Anything else I ...
regions?
past birch
But I suppose that's the issue there
peak crypt
wildy, tirannwn, and kandarin
Hate that I chose wildy btw, wish I went with a raid area or asgarnia instead
fickle thistle
I started afking it after I for quadrant <:kek:1045021806144262244>
Blindbag problems sigh
I plan on going some kind of mage build to blast PvM for my push to dragon
smoky raft
wildy, tirannwn, and kandarin
seems like you're clear
peak crypt
Hell yeah, that was a long grind lol
smoky raft
I couldn't find anything, at least
(excluding the grubs you already mentioned)
peak crypt
yeah I might stick with one prayer pen point just for the grubs
unique cedar
what does the blowpipe count as? throwing?
remote cove
non larcenist bros, what did you train theiving on?
austere ember
smoky raft
alright time for my daily "beat the shit out of jad" time
smoky raft
my money's on dead
toxic vortex
my money's on dead
smoky raft
what
toxic vortex
winged sinew
failed reply
smoky raft
fair enough
smoky raft
my fucking MONEY
wooden hamlet
Guys is bluetooth hally good for late game pvm? It seems rather useless to have that many ranged? I have region Mory, Kourend, Asgarnia and maybe I wanna respec from my thorns build but I am not sure where to
smoky raft
winged sinew
Fair point
You can call me noob if you want but without new players this game would eventually die
scenic garden
this feels like it does alot more harm than help
cause people can just come in and grief you on anything that's not a boss
dusky coral
Guys is bluetooth hally good for late game pvm? It seems rather useless to have ...
what is a bluetooth
can I use wifi instead?
scenic garden
thankfully they made that rabbit instanced for leagues, so I'll have to go do that later, but that could have been my visage drop
scenic garden
ye, they didn't make larcenist ignore the state of the stall
winged sinew
funny enough my first steam account 21 years ago my first real nick name was thenewnoob11
remote cove
lol
winged sinew
my dad was called easykilltarget
remote cove
guess ill piss people off till 84 then i can go wildy rouge
wooden hamlet
what is a bluetooth
Like teh ranged hally build
winged sinew
funny enough my first steam account 21 years ago my first real nick name was the...
i only know this because i recenty got my account back after 20 years of not using but somehow managed to recover the account
scenic garden
I've also heard bluetooth hally is a bit inconsistent on whether it can proc shorter range weapons, much like bluetooth not working consistently
winged sinew
ancient wolf
I was about to complain about Tasks not giving an update on the numerical value of a Task you've done like "mine x amount of ore", etc. and as I was typing it I got the 100 runite ore mined task done
torpid trench
Damn even with 30 pact points and max stats, I still cant burst down phosani final phase fast enough
wooden hamlet
I've also heard bluetooth hally is a bit inconsistent on whether it can proc sho...
Mhhh OK. I was wanting to go melee route since my regions. Seems maybe 1h thorns is the only viable option with that dagger?
dusky coral
I was about to complain about Tasks not giving an update on the numerical value ...
i don't see why you would need an update for it, u can just do the thing until you got it
torpid trench
Tried running dds specs into dmace, didnt even come close
scenic garden
I was about to complain about Tasks not giving an update on the numerical value ...
I just set it and forget it, came back the next morning and it was done lol
ancient wolf
i don't see why you would need an update for it, u can just do the thing until y...
because I like knowing how close I am and how many more I need to finish a task?
dusky coral
that's fair
scenic garden
sometimes you have to leave before finishing, then you have no idea how many you have left when yo uget back
dusky coral
personally I like it when I halfway to passing out but then suddenly C Engineer just said Leagues Task Completed and boom
scenic garden
sure you can just go til it's finished, but why not give the bare minimum info for the task?
ancient wolf
sure you can just go til it's finished, but why not give the bare minimum info f...
Yeah it's not very difficult to add into the game, especially since the task interface is based off of other games that have it
rare hollow
So I have larcenist and I need fat stacks of raw gp to fuel my con grind
ancient wolf
did they have the value tracker in previous leagues? this is my first leagues so idk
rare hollow
whats the best way to earn gp
scenic garden
this is my first leagues as well, and I would have thought they'd have figured out task tracking by now
torpid trench
Anyone got suggestions for a phosani loadout?
ancient wolf
whats the best way to earn gp
what areas do you have unlocked
rare hollow
tiran, kourend, mory
torpid trench
Only struggling with bursting the final phase, ive got lots of phosani kc in main game and the other phases are mostly 0dmg
ancient wolf
tiran, kourend, mory
pickpocket elves in priff
rare hollow
Only struggling with bursting the final phase, ive got lots of phosani kc in mai...
dump specs in final phase
ancient wolf
you get gp and the coin bags
scenic garden
you get raw gp from pickpocketing and bags full of money alongside that
ancient wolf
you get 280 bags before you stop pickpocketing
torpid trench
dump specs in final phase
Obviously, but the specs I have are barely doing 50%
scenic garden
you get 280 bags before you stop pickpocketing
do ardy diaries
rare hollow
and your current gear
versed dragon
I am also having this problem
rare hollow
ok ty for advice
torpid trench
Im full waterthorns, and Im not respeccing 
scenic garden
you can gather up to 1140 bags before stopping with the elite diary
ancient wolf
I made like 3mil+ just from pickpocketing them
oh that's dope, I doubt I'll do the elite diary, gonna be busy for the next week
torpid trench
Aint no way I cant find a way to burst her down, I just dont know what to use because Id normally just vw her and its over, but I dont have widly 😂
rare hollow
you know how to step under her in the corner yeah
scenic garden
yeah I only did up to hard diary but I can afk for like 12-15 mins before I get stopped
winged sinew
Only struggling with bursting the final phase, ive got lots of phosani kc in mai...
don't use mage'
torpid trench
Im 200+kc, ive got all the basic techs down, yeah. Its strictly a dps issue
torpid trench
don't use mage'
Im not, but he asked my pacts. Im in full barrows with dfs and dmace/dds for spec
scenic garden
Aint no way I cant find a way to burst her down, I just dont know what to use be...
vw?
low forge
Korasi's Sword
torpid trench
Voidwaker
scenic garden
ah right
winged sinew
Im not, but he asked my pacts. Im in full barrows with dfs and dmace/dds for spe...
well good luck
winged sinew
Im not, but he asked my pacts. Im in full barrows with dfs and dmace/dds for spe...
how many resets do you have left?
scenic garden
is nightmare a demon?
torpid trench
As for gear, this is all Ive got. As mentioned, the regular phases are trivial, I do decent damage with the mace and am almost always at full 188 hp, healing up from any small mistakes on the pillar phase. Its strictly a burst dps issue, im not taking hands on her enrage, its just chip from the walkers
rare hollow
nop
scenic garden
or echo boppers are jsut good for crush?
rare hollow
oh this is giga tank buil
yeah u need more switches for dps in final phase or something
torpid trench
how many resets do you have left?
all of them, but if I can do pnm on the main game with an undergeared account, surely I can find a way to burst her down once, so im not really looking to respec twice for 1kc
Might just go chase down boppers then, since crush
ancient wolf
Where is soft clay in Tirannwn? I can't find any clay rocks there
sorry, not soft clay itself but clay rocks
low forge
The mine near Zalc entrance
scenic garden
in the mines just south of the center
ancient wolf
yeah I just looked it up and the answer is on the wiki for Bracelet of clay which I need
winged sinew
As for gear, this is all Ive got. As mentioned, the regular phases are trivial, ...
wha is the main reason you are killing it? to get a pact point
torpid trench
Correct
just a single kc is needed
and I like the boss, so its a fun little challenge to find a way to do it without the usual scythe and vw
winged sinew
yea but it could be easier to do another task
scenic garden
don't need need a staff for the pillars?
rare hollow
not necessarily
scenic garden
or does melee work well on them too?
rare hollow
yeah melee can work on pillars
torpid trench
You can, but magic is much faster
thats why i bring trident
+waterheals on the pillars
in case of any mistakes
rare hollow
magic just has the benefit of 1) never missing 2) doubled damage and even works on thrall magic dmg
on pillars specifically
torpid trench
yea but it could be easier to do another task
sure it would be easier, hell I could get 40pacts and a scythe and come back for it while asleep. But wheres the fun in that?
torpid trench
Could respec into a full blindbag full of crush weapons with ranged echoes and 1t lithic scepter and just brain off the whole thing
torpid trench
My goal is to find a way to make it work with what ive got
torpid trench
does lithic sceptre work in final phase
uh, prob, idk
I was just thinking of the easiest powered staff to get to go with the rest of my respec example
and thats what came to mind since im in mory
rare hollow
she barely has like 200hp in final phase r something yeah
winged sinew
and I like the boss, so its a fun little challenge to find a way to do it withou...
you will make it eventually i know it
torpid trench
I know I will, I just havent figured out how yet 
with enough rng, i could do it as I am, I just dont want to chase that copium, Id rather just secure it by getting a few small gear upgrades or smth
bright harbor
i have lithic scepter but i also just got eye of ayak and im powered staff build...i cant really tell which is better and not sure how to figure out
torpid trench
if I had wildy, id just vw and be done with it
rare hollow
id say stack lithic charges b4 she reaches her final phase
and blast her with lithic specs
torpid trench
How does lithic spec even work? Ive just heard its supposedly not good
rare hollow
who said its not good lol
wooden hamlet
Anyone did a throwing build with stacking strenght bonus from gear? Seems like it could be fun although not sure if it's good...
rare hollow
its basically like
checks if the target is first of all immune to magic or praying against magic
after that it then it immediately triggers an aoe attack very similar to aoe grubs work in doom when u kill them
if you time it right
you can probably knock out a sleepwalker that may try to get close to her
torpid trench
whats the dmg like?
rare hollow
winged sinew
and I like the boss, so its a fun little challenge to find a way to do it withou...
before you resepecc you shuold do all tasks that are easy for your current build otheerwise you will regeret saying this and having to respec back to kill a boss you could have killed with your currrent gear
knotty forum
anyone doing normal tob willing to take a noob, im maxed combat and mage build
bright harbor
its generally weaker but makes up in that spec
do u think its better than eye? i have both and its hard to tell whats doing more dps against single targer..
winged sinew
anyone doing normal tob willing to take a noob, im maxed combat and mage build
tak a noob wdym? XD
torpid trench
before you resepecc you shuold do all tasks that are easy for your current build...
I wont be respeccing unless i make a major mistake for my build, and even then, itll just be to fix that. I am adamantly trying to avoid it, and wont unless i actually somehow softlock myself
rare hollow
in truth eye was designed to be a 3t weapon while lithic is 4t, ayak special is just for reducing magic def (which is rather good) but lithic sceptre spec is good raw damage
becoz its typeless
torpid trench
do u have 1t trident node
i do not, but it can be gotten
rare hollow
so it just always hits
id say fiddle around with your build a little more
would suck to just waste a pact on that
scenic garden
I wont be respeccing unless i make a major mistake for my build, and even then, ...
that's the only reason I re-rolled for 1t staff/2t water thorns. my early blindbag had me softlocked
shrewd ermine
rare hollow
you could even get some granite hammer to increase melee dps in final phase from ggs
scenic garden
still planning o ngoing back into blindbag later
tawdry carbon
anyone here have 99 farming already?
tawdry carbon
<a:BugCatWOAH:1301407443292520458>
herllll yeahr
scenic garden
anyone here have 99 farming already?
almost have it from tree runs
torpid trench
you could even get some granite hammer to increase melee dps in final phase from...
I have the hammer, but i figured it would be too slow
winged sinew
anyone here have 99 farming already?
yes
shrewd ermine
herllll yeahr
i considerd risking it to get to lv 8 but i didnt want to risk it ngl
torpid trench
dont risk it
shrewd ermine
i know
torpid trench
if you got here once, youll do it again, and easier next time
because those are a huge upgrade
winged sinew
anyone here have 99 farming already?
a long time ago
shrewd ermine
because those are a huge upgrade
yeah just read about the accuracy thing
torpid trench
I still gotta go back to doom for them
shrewd ermine
still need shoes 😭
torpid trench
Got my delve 8 with no uniques and dipped
scenic garden
still need shoes 😭
I think echo boots from colo would be better for thorns
shrewd ermine
oh 100%
scenic garden
since it's another recoil stack
toxic vortex
Alright, I just need to do the barcrawl
shrewd ermine
lunear shoes are a meme
torpid trench
I think echo boots from colo would be better for thorns
They arent just better, they are bis
scenic garden
better overall than avernic?
toxic vortex
for thorns yeah
torpid trench
You said they would be "better" for thorns, I was just clarifying that you are right, but they arent just better, they are best in slot
In general they are pretty bad iirc compared to any str boost boots
toxic vortex
^
winged sinew
im slow lol
to be fair u did more farming than ususal becaues I EXP wasted, making this bank tag
smoky raft
if they didnt have to be charged they'd at least get some niche use for hyper chill slayer
winged sinew
to be fair u did more farming than ususal becaues I EXP wasted, making this ban...
My farming bank tag!
torpid trench
if they didnt have to be charged they'd at least get some niche use for hyper ch...
Simply be a chronic colo addict and have a thousand gems in the bank
winged sinew
you can drop the nasturtiums
transmute
winged sinew
why i have the
tawdry carbon
whats the ratio of karambwan to karambwanjis
scenic garden
1:1
smoky raft
you'll use around 2 bait for every 1 squid
tawdry carbon
shyat ok.
smoky raft
whenever you fail a roll to catch a karambwan, it consumes a bait anyway
scenic garden
ah
winged sinew
you can't transmute flowers
then I saved them just so i made the bank tag look nice
torpid trench
If I slam out 50 tasks for my last region, I could pick one that gives me good item access for melee/range, but idk which region
I think for best weapons I go wildy and get the bbc/vw?
My region options are: Kourend, Desert, Wild, Asgarnia
winged sinew
you can't transmute flowers
it is a farming tab with the main focus to show visually what patch each seed goes into
torpid trench
Oh and frem, but
shrewd ermine
i know my prayers were a bit sloppy here but how tf was I supposed to react to the range attacks when im not allowed to pray for the first boulder?
peak crypt
What is best tank gear for someone who has wildy, tirannwn, and kandarin? I know theres nothing really all that good. Is it really dragon?
dusty hound
Is trident the end game for water build-ers? Isn't the tridents spell not a water spell?
torpid trench
i know my prayers were a bit sloppy here but how tf was I supposed to react to t...
You would pray range,magic,range, range, magic, range, since the boulders crack one after the other
tawdry carbon
sent u a play by play @shrewd ermine
on where ur blunders were
youll see it if u rewatch vod
torpid trench
i know my prayers were a bit sloppy here but how tf was I supposed to react to t...
You are allowed to pray the boulder, the brown stone boulders always start range, and the blue ones always start mage
its 6 attacks on 6 ticks
in a pattern of 121 121
crystal kelp
i know my prayers were a bit sloppy here but how tf was I supposed to react to t...
You can pray for the first boulder. Also if you're using water thorns you're meant to stand in melee distance with pray melee on
torpid trench
Ive found that not a super good idea at delve 7+ 
tawdry carbon
Is trident the end game for water build-ers? Isn't the tridents spell not a wate...
this is the only way to have it count
torpid trench
He slaps me for rapid 30s and not even water thorns protects from 30 every 2ticks
tawdry carbon
the endgame for water is shadowflame quadrant
crystal kelp
He slaps me for rapid 30s and not even water thorns protects from 30 every 2tick...
The water heals you
shrewd ermine
You are allowed to pray the boulder, the brown stone boulders always start range...
I see, do I pray the first range before or after the 2nd boulder?
torpid trench
The water heals you
Read what i said again
shrewd ermine
Is trident the end game for water build-ers? Isn't the tridents spell not a wate...
depending on what content it's a mid-late game item. not sure if trident does more dmg than shadowflame water, I'd assume so
torpid trench
I see, do I pray the first range before or after the 2nd boulder?
I believe you pray on hit, so as each attack is touching you. In practice, this looks like pre-praying range as the boulders break, and as soon as you see the first hit splat, you flick in the relevant pattern for 6 ticks
crystal kelp
Read what i said again
I read what you said, I stand by what I said, water heals you and it's fine? I stood in melee range the whole time and did the deep delve CA
shrewd ermine
I believe you pray on hit, so as each attack is touching you. In practice, this ...
I see and the boulders always alternate? so if it's a blue rock it's mage range mage?
torpid trench
I read what you said, I stand by what I said, water heals you and it's fine? I s...
Obviously water heals you, Im also a water mage The rapid 30s ripped right through it and frequently left me walking away with 20-30hp to spare, healing up out of melee, and then stepping back in
torpid trench
I see and the boulders always alternate? so if it's a blue rock it's mage range ...
correct, a single boulder is always a pattern of 1,2,1, starting with range for brown/regular rocks, and mage for blue rocks
dusty hound
Im kinda just following a healing water build from online and I think their bis is trident and ancestral
crystal kelp
Obviously water heals you, Im also a water mage <:hmmmm:968665263128064010> The ...
Sounds like a skill issue on your behalf 
I just healed back up during car phase
shrewd ermine
Im kinda just following a healing water build from online and I think their bis ...
@tawdry carbon might be wrong here, but I'm pretty sure if you want to squeeze dps without using air, powered is the way to go and you use water for heals.
torpid trench
it worked rarely, but usually the rapid autos ripped me down. Probably around 70% failure rate on delve 7-8
dusty hound
Ahhh I see, that makes sense. Thanks!
winged sinew
for doom you would want wate/overheal/thorns build
torpid trench
He also seemed very suspiciously accurate on Delve 1 a lot of the time
shrewd ermine
for doom you would want wate/overheal/thorns build
yeah for sure
i did inferno with powered staff
torpid trench
Like delves 2-6, he'd barely hit me at all, and the dmg he does on delve 1 isnt huge, but he actually hit, which was weird
shrewd ermine
but for vardorvis im prob going to use water
torpid trench
Still need to do awakened vard Thinking Ill cope on doing tob first for the armor
tawdry carbon
omfg why does this bar feel so big
shrewd ermine
i dont wanna do awakened vard 
tawdry carbon
i dont wanna do awakened vard <a:CatCry:1399288642392031382>
its ez
if ur thorns its triple ez
u can do it
shrewd ermine
okay 
tawdry carbon
just do some normal vard for practice run
learn to run thru axes
and get used to the head
remember the head will do mage/range in awakened
winged sinew
Like delves 2-6, he'd barely hit me at all, and the dmg he does on delve 1 isnt ...
as long as you get past 4, you will get all the loot eventually
tawdry carbon
and to m yknowledge its nevr back to back
like its never range-range or mage-mage
if the first ones blue next ones green vice versa
rare hollow
it only getsreally difficult if you prolong enraged vard
in awakened
legit was a one and done for me and i never did the awakeneds, just practice tiles and movement on regular vard and you'll be fine for 50% of the fight atleast
winged sinew
Wondering if I should do inferno for the last pact
I did this too
slim crag
True.
knotty forum
is there a lfg for raids in leauges on this disc?
winged sinew
Wondering if I should do inferno for the last pact
slim crag
shrewd ermine
winged sinew
is there a lfg for raids in leauges on this disc?
I would raid with you in tob, I am really bad at tob and I have no clue how well my mage build will do
tawdry carbon
hell YEAH
knotty forum
I would raid with you in tob, I am really bad at tob and I have no clue how wel...
i got a group
tawdry carbon
I would raid with you in tob, I am really bad at tob and I have no clue how wel...
if its air ur solid
or fire
knotty forum
we are on world 400
remote cove
maybe.. just maybe I should've reloaded into larcenist instead of clues
winged sinew
if its air ur solid
nope, water
knotty forum
i think we are going to lose
remote cove
maybe
winged sinew
if its air ur solid
i was asking earlier what to spec into for tob
winged sinew
we need 1 more i joined a random party
I will join
tawdry carbon
when u say need 1 more, is that for a 5 man party or 4
tawdry carbon
says on top elft
fluid fable
I am outside
Whats it like?
winged sinew
Whats it like?
outside tob
fluid fable
O
winged sinew
IRL outside is scary
rustic tapir
200m thieving no rocky... just GIVE me my task
tough finch
well now he's more likely at least
winged sinew
they started with 4
just so you know the ONLY experience i have with tob is doing one entry mode for quest cape and watched some videosm are you sure you want me to join?
XD
gilded totem
Doing Phosani's Nightmare. After killing the sleepwalkers am I supposed to pray something? I took 96 damage even after they were dead
Or do I just dodge or something?
winged sinew
people didnt know you need melee on bloat and all died
name of group?
gilded totem
I mean. "need" is a statement. You just much shorter downtime
winged sinew
we wiped lol
I am fine with wiping, at least i will get some tob knowledge
never touched it once after quest cape
never planned to
potent leaf
Hey guys is there a way to afk hunter with endless harvest?
winged sinew
redwaterstik party
oh
sorry
didn't see
i saw that name on the board
but not here on dc
winged sinew
we wiped lol
are you going to try again?
shrewd ermine
winged sinew
<a:BugCatWOAH:1301407443292520458>
gzzz
pure karma
i never got one of those
shrewd ermine
so many combat tasks lol
peak crypt
What is the best "tank" armor I can get with wildy, tirannwn, and kandarin? I think I've screwed myself in terms of tank armor. Dragon?
pure karma
isnt crystal armor your bis?
shrewd ermine
two pact tasks and an upgrade from my old shoes XD
short cave
how do i access death altar in temple of light? i cant find the elf arianwyn in llewyn to give me the crystal trinket
winged sinew
went from rune/lunar to echos to treads
pure karma
do i keep grinding out skills to 99 or just stop at 95 and finish off my dragon rank?
scenic garden
how do i access death altar in temple of light? i cant find the elf arianwyn in ...
the crystal is in the chest
but you can also use slayer ring tele to dark beasts
winged sinew
how do i access death altar in temple of light? i cant find the elf arianwyn in ...
well you don't need it
winged sinew
but you can also use slayer ring tele to dark beasts
no
doesn't work
the varrier keeps you out
scenic garden
should
winged sinew
got to letyall
near priff
go to the entrance to the cave
and head to the dwarfs
at the bottom
scenic garden
er yea that's what you need the crystal for. sorry was thinking of the long way thru underground pass
scenic garden
which you need to use if you forget to turn the laser back
winged sinew
on the side of the wall
scenic garden
it's am uch longer trek
winged sinew
how do i access death altar in temple of light? i cant find the elf arianwyn in ...
i can show you
what world
scenic garden
just grab a slayer ring and a crystal from the chest in lletya
but don't forget to turn the laser back before you tp out
winged sinew
which you need to use if you forget to turn the laser back
but i couldn't get to the laser
scenic garden
did you go thru the underground pass?
scenic garden
so you went thru underground pass
scenic garden
that's the long way and takes you directly to the altar. tp to dark beasts via slayer ring is a bit closer but needs the crystal from lletya
winged sinew
jsut in inventory?
scenic garden
but you need to remember to turn the laser back before you tp out or you need to take the long way to reset it
winged sinew
but you need to remember to turn the laser back before you tp out or you need to...
I will test this
scenic garden
there's a red laser you need to flip to get to the altar from the dark beast side
winged sinew
I just run to to the dwarfs houses at the bottom
usually
i will try what you said
first
got the crystal
scenic garden
idk why anyone would take either route in maingame, it's incredibly tedious. would def need to do abyss rc for death runes.
scenic garden
ye I did it
winged sinew
i can't remember
scenic garden
clue relic is how I got there once, but didn't think to bring any runes
winged sinew
teleported to dark beasts
scenic garden
head thru the cave to the temple
winged sinew
i am
scenic garden
it should let you in with the crystal in your inv
timber quest
I found a bug, anyone got any shark lure and able to test? Xd
It's just normal xp rates it isn't game breaking
remote cove
is there any plugin I can use to ping me when gem stall replenishes? so I dont have to infinitely click my mouse lol
im working on company laptop on the side
timber quest
There is a plug in called watchdog, that with some work, could be set up so it pings you
timber quest
It's basically "if this then this" so you set the first "this" to the xp value of the stall, then 2nd this starts a counter for the respawn time which can have an alert tied to it xD
covert wolf
which one is better
dinh's thorn or ely thorn?
past birch
which one is better
dinh's thorn or ely thorn?
I'm gonna guess ely but dihns can proc blindbag easy
covert wolf
i need to recheck faux build
wooden hamlet
For those of you running fang of the hound with the 6% fire node. Is it worth it? Seems like it'd be a constant drain on your hp no?
winged sinew
how do i access death altar in temple of light? i cant find the elf arianwyn in ...
long path but it worked
XD
winged sinew
but don't forget to turn the laser back before you tp out
I still want to know this method too
red laser
scenic garden
tp to dark beasts via slayer ring > walk thru the tunnels to the temple > go thru temple to altar
winged sinew
tp to dark beasts via slayer ring > walk thru the tunnels to the temple > go thr...
yes but you have to turn a laser to open it?
scenic garden
you need to flip the red laser to get from temple to altar than flip the laser back before you tp out so you can take the same route next time
past birch
For those of you running fang of the hound with the 6% fire node. Is it worth it...
Yeah you basically suicide while dealing 1% extra damage or something
NOT worth it
winged sinew
you need to flip the red laser to get from temple to altar than flip the laser b...
where is red laser?
scenic garden
if the laser is already flipped you need to go thru the underground pass to reset it
winged sinew
if the laser is already flipped you need to go thru the underground pass to rese...
so you have to go all the way up to reset it?
then my way is faster
scenic garden
you have to walk much further on the underground pass route
long trail
run :D
remote cove
It's basically "if this then this" so you set the first "this" to the xp value o...
huge thanks a bunch
winged sinew
you have to walk much further on the underground pass route
but you do not have to reset anything