leagues-general

[tacit oyster]

you can argue against every single relic since everything can be done without specific relic. it doesnt change the fact that basically every relic saves time

[hollow garden]

I still have like 5 respec, currently rocking King's Barrage and it's been a fun clapper. But the stats don't lie that mage is still superior output against non-tank target.

My one like about King's Barrage is that I can hit 68% accuracy or so on even Sol, so it's a very excellent all-around type of build at about 32 DPS

[plain pasture]

Kings barrage is nice, but with it so slow it loses a LOT of use

[plain pasture]

Again m, thorns makes sol almost fully afk

[toxic vortex]

Easy through hard mory diaries are done

[plain pasture]

I did sol without any mechanic or food using max thorns water surge

[shrewd ermine]

all of the relics are good, but i think some people are a bit short-sighted when it comes to picking relics and considering how they'll be used with other relics, areas, pacts, etc. myself included so they don't get the most out of them

[plain pasture]

I literally just moved randomly no mechanic awareness

[hollow garden]

I'm Wildy, Kandarin and Asgarnia

I assume Raid gear isn't needed to pull it off?

[rocky harbor]

so you think that eternal sustenance would be better if im trying to improve my combat abilities yeh?

[plain pasture]

Torva

[hollow garden]

I've never touched Nex, I assume that the key is to do it in group?

[plain pasture]

Your healing will be a lot less also, as no bloodfury

Bloodfury probably gives you at least 30% of your thorns healing

I think my pb at coliseum was like 6 mins.
Water surge whole thing semi afk.
No mechanics

Thorns did pretty much all damage

Mage oray on waves.
No pray on sol, no mechanics

[tacit oyster]

unless you are in basically max gear you want to do it in a team. Mass worlds with 15+ people you are less likely to get drops though

[plain pasture]

Again mage thorns is afk nex

Pray mage and go make a sandwich

[silver crescent]

and this is with bloodfury?

[tacit oyster]

water mage thorns cannot afk nex solo

[plain pasture]

Yes it can easily

Nex dps is almost half ur healing

[broken brook]

What's the build pact for it?

[plain pasture]

The ONLY thing that would factor is minion aggro if it aggro them

If it didn't then you'd return to nex taking 0 hits from you but still you alive

[tacit oyster]

you wont auto-retaliate into minion if nex is hitting you

[plain pasture]

Max thorns, 188 hp, 140% regen.
Justi set
Water surge (quadrant)
Bloodfury
Suffering charged
Exhi boots charged

[silver crescent]

50kc echo hunleaff, 4 armor seeds no bad

[broken brook]

Ah rip i only got kand, asg, and kourend

[plain pasture]

Yeh imax thorns build has to have kandarin/mory.
Third is optional

With both of those practically any boss is at least semi afk, most fully afk

Has to be water thorns

For guaranteed healing off water cast

Even splashes heal u 20 hp 3t

Suffering for recoil dps

Echo boots same

Mory for bloodfury

[broken brook]

Know any build for those regions

[plain pasture]

Which region

[broken brook]

kand, asg, kourend

[plain pasture]

Hmmmm

Not that I've done

[tacit oyster]

water mage thorns can do there too. you just run oathplate/torva/bandos as tank gear

[plain pasture]

Yeh no justi/bloodfury does make it a lot harder

[broken brook]

Well atm i only got 29 pact points

[plain pasture]

You lose 15% damage block + 30% extra healing

[tacit oyster]

blood fury only heals if you are below 99 hp

[plain pasture]

I dont believe so when coupled with thorns it works strange.
But even so, it sustains you low

Like your hp quite literally never drops under 150

[tacit oyster]

bloodfury heals from thorns damage yes. Blood fury is not demonic pact so it wont overheal

[plain pasture]

Because constant healing it acts as though your tick eating 24.7

Like for example i got hit at leagues challenge for over 400 damage from 4 jads hitting range (i only prayed mage)
My hp didn't even drop it just sustained at 155 or so

I seen the hitsplats on me
But my actual hp never droprd

[glacial ridge]

im looking for draconic visage. i did mith dragons for dragon full helm where visage is 1/2000. at 2000kc i got the dragon full helm drop (not from chewed bone). is it smarter to stay at mith dragons for the 1/2000 kc or should i go iron/steel dragons or somewhere else? im at 2000kc here and just got dragon full helm which is 1/6k

[tacit oyster]

you cannot tick heal the jad hits though since they do not read your current hp

[plain pasture]

It calcs very strange
I think it does the blood fury healing then factors pacts healing afterwards so it doesn't heal you with bloodfury when it can't apply it.
If that makes any sense

[remote cove]

500KC no lance (+1 head)

im tired boss

[plain pasture]

All I know for certain is once I hit 32 pacts I afk every boss afterwards.

Doom, zuk, corp, jad challenges, sol, vardovis I afked all of it 😂

Currently making a third build atm testing for some fun

[queen thicket]

sol is fun to fight

I can't bring myself to just brain off him

[plain pasture]

Gonna go melee 3t whip, maxtank thorns.

See how fun this one is

[tacit oyster]

yes you can afk them with good rng, just dont mention how many times you died

[plain pasture]

0

Actually I died on sol heredit at like 27 pacts earlier on.
But this was before good tank gear

(And I picked awful waves nerfs)

[tacit oyster]

the amount of water mages i have seen just die to zuk because their reflect didnt proc and zuk 2 shot them is unreal

[plain pasture]

They're probably under 188 hp

By time zuk hits again even after a 150 your 188 again

[mighty zodiac]

I mean I'm lithic sceptre/thorns with magic for emergencies but there's times where melee/ranged is useful to have in ToB right, haven't actually completed it before

[tacit oyster]

if you somehow landed all 3 hits on zuk yes

[plain pasture]

Even without

Guaranteed healing on casts is 20 per
Thorns heals massive due to npcs hitting you + healers

[silent garnet]

Damage cap for echo thermy is 280

[tacit oyster]

if you splash all 3 hits with water mage you heal 30-60 hp before next zuk hit

[plain pasture]

Plus thorns

Thorns healing is actually huge

Healers/spawned npcs

And I pray mage only

[tacit oyster]

ah so you only tank zuk hits when there are other npc out, so it is not afk

[plain pasture]

No

[late helm]

600kc here

[plain pasture]

I tanked whole thing minus first rotation of shield

As I kissed rotation so I went with it

Missed

[late helm]

At least I got nally at 340kc

And 7 araxxor heads

[forest ice]

heads just keep rolling

[next dust]

32nd pact!

[rare hollow]

ez

practising it in regular vard helped a lot tho

going to do more awakened vard when im done with the league

cuz the enrage is something else

[plain pasture]

Nothing thorns can't handle 😂

[rare hollow]

meh did it with melee thorns + blindbag

[plain pasture]

Hell yea

[iron river]

anyone here still need to catch a dimp?

[rare hollow]

gotta learn atleast one awakened if i can so I wont struggle as much in maingame

wish i could practice awakened levi tho he's the hardest of the bunch

[plain pasture]

I'm making a melee thorns build atm with max healing.
Might incorporate blindbag if I can find a nice setup

[rare hollow]

hm

ill send you my current setup now 40 points

[iron river]

guess not 😛

[plain pasture]

Moreso where i can use thorns more

From my understanding it has to be 2h with blindbag for it to be op. Using ranged echoes etc

And using a 2h blindbag wep unequips shield

[rare hollow]

https://tools.runescape.wiki/demonic-pacts/?n=1-100-11-12-133-135-136-139-140-141-145-150-151-152-157-161-17-18-44-46-53-56-57-59-60-61-68-69-71-73-74-8-81-82-84-86-93-96-97-99

[indigo nimbus]

how do you finish this penguin task reeeeeeee

[rare hollow]

its just decent

planning to respec into halberd blindbag for max dps after im done with most difficult content

[plain pasture]

I like afk builds

[rare hollow]

a 2h blindbag weapon doesnt unequip the shield

idk who keeps larping that

[plain pasture]

I despise annoying mechanics with bosses

[rare hollow]

my current setup basically

[old tapir]

think woke levi is doable without stunning

[indigo nimbus]

it was when i was blindbag, maybe they changed it

[plain pasture]

Anything that's pointless that delays the kill makes me wanna judge dredd my laptop

[rare hollow]

they fixed it yeah

[old tapir]

just getting good prayers and letting the thorns do the work

[rare hollow]

they fixed it early on

[tacit oyster]

only kitted scythe unequips shields now, will never be fixed

[plain pasture]

Like moons dumb stuff where u cant damage them.
Irritated me beyond belief

[rare hollow]

yeah i mean if you own scythes at that point ditch your thorns build

[late helm]

I got so much head from this spider

[rare hollow]

scythe with ranged echoes will do plenty of dps to cover for it

ive seen my one lad just absolutely demolish tob and cox with that setup

1 nox in hand, 2 kitted scythe in the inv, 1 boppers, 1 nox in the inv

absolute mayhem, his only weakness was just having only 7 tile range

[tacit oyster]

the main issue with the nox build is that it becomes terrible if you cannot maintain max range

[rare hollow]

he took down awakened vard with just blindbag + echoes apparently skipping the fight for him lol

yeah at that point you'll switch to boppers

then it wont be too garbage

like boppers mainhand

boppers even without bloodmoon performs just too well its kinda funny its bis for melee

[open garden]

CG grind is so annoying for this enhanced seed 301kc and nothing ;_;

[rare hollow]

https://tenor.com/view/lobster-steak-too-juicy-sarcastic-shrug-gif-12241594544090544701

[limber dome]

any COXsuckers here want to carry me?

im sick of yama

[rare hollow]

if only i knew how to do mage skip

[silent garnet]

blind bag gets to 1 shot bosses but magic doesn't

cool game

[rare hollow]

too bad ill never learn 😄

magic basically just takes 5 shots

all the time

blindbag can do that about once every 3 kills

[spring cipher]

remember when mr condensation was on my case about "oh but u can learn in leagues ur just being condesneding"

headass

xD

[tawdry carbon]

i am on ur case cuzz u gate keep for no reason

he actually chooses to not learn

that warrants gatekeeping

[rare hollow]

zactly

[tawdry carbon]

gatekeeping people from pvm who want to learn, or have learned and are just catching up, is L braindead take

i will remain on ur case for this

same with ur inane quest cape requirement for pvming

thats why i make pointed comments like oh wow i cant butter a potato guess ill never pvm like the fuck lmao

[silent garnet]

Why does zulrah have a damage cap of 256?????

bro

I hate this

[rare hollow]

the only reason i dont bother with learning mage skipping 1) Solo cox is boring 2) I know how to skip how just dont know how to start it

[tawdry carbon]

same reason hes weird and you cant attack him as he surfaces etc

i like how u changed ur tune once i revealed i actually pvm

lmaoaoaoao

im just a returning player not like i kept tabs for 5-6 years ive been away

[silent garnet]

They said they removed hte zulrah damage cap

[tawdry carbon]

where at

did they same remove or adjust

lol

yeah thats right

[spring cipher]

mage skipping=/= solo cox

[tawdry carbon]

eat it

[spring cipher]

theres different methods

[tawdry carbon]

doesnt even respond because they got caught

[spring cipher]

solo cox timing and mage skipping are different

[tawdry carbon]

🤔

[spring cipher]

mage skipping only relevant in teams

[tawdry carbon]

imagine being a toxic gatekeeper but being wrong

[rare hollow]

wait im talking to my momma

ill brb

[spring cipher]

number 2: theres plenty of guides on mage skipping

but ur team has to be on the same page

[harsh oyster]

time to do sins of the father myself because thog need points and tasks

[spring cipher]

otherwise it wont work

[tawdry carbon]

its a good quest
i just forgot where to get the shit cuz i did it on release

🤣

[silent garnet]

https://secure.runescape.com/m=news/leagues-vi-demonic-pacts---launches-today?oldschool=1

"Zulrah has no damage cap or melee damage immunity"

And he has a cap of 256

[harsh oyster]

im mostly in it for the free 1.4mil xp

[tacit oyster]

no sustain melee build in shambles when water mages afk and they have to tank damage too

[tawdry carbon]

🤔 256 is basically uint8+1 max value so maybe they just.. moved it lol.

but idk runescript that well

[tawdry carbon]

basically me in hmt with blindbag

"hee hee i have 180 hp im gonna blow you up in the maze"

https://tenor.com/view/people-hate-frown-japanese-zoom-in-gif-8158295

[spring cipher]

yea it blows for melee users

melee users need morytania just for bloodfury imo

[rare hollow]

rancouur

[harsh oyster]

i feel like im the only one thats been using multiple combat styles at this point

speccing into waterthorns means my melee and ranged are still like. Good. with good equipment

[ancient wolf]

anyone got any tips for echo hunllef

[potent quail]

well tehcnicly thorns mage is using multiple combat styles

[ancient wolf]

I feel like I'm going crazy

[silent garnet]

Why does zulrah have a fcuking damage cap

Whyyyy

is nothing allowed to be cool???

[potent quail]

this may sound aggressive

but try again

hunleff is brutal, but you get better every single try

[silent garnet]

"here's a bunch of creative tools, but they don't work if you try anything interesting"

fuck me.

[rare hollow]

no damage cap in leagues for zulrah

[spring cipher]

it has a damage cap main game of 50 but for leagues i think they forgot to properly uncap it

[silent garnet]

I literally hit the damage cap 2 times

[ancient wolf]

I've tried about 20 times so far and the furthest I've gotten him down was about 300hp

[silent garnet]

I cna do it again right now.

[ancient wolf]

even on a world where I should have good ping, it's like a 2 second delay for certain things

[scenic garden]

what's your ping on the good worlds?

[potent quail]

ok yeah if lag happens that makes the fight super hard

[rare hollow]

f

well i never did zulrah on my max setup so ill never know

[ancient wolf]

my ping is 40 on my current world

[silent garnet]

I should be 1 shotting zulrah EVERY TIME and it is just capped at 250

[potent quail]

A maximum damage cap is the maximum amount of hitpoints of damage that can be inflicted on a monster in a single hit. Maximum damage caps may be active for the entire encounter, or only during specific parts of it.

The global maximum damage cap is 200, which is used as a failsafe against unintended mechanics that may come about as a result of introducing new pieces of equipment.[
oh not a boss thing, just a general thing

[tawdry carbon]

show vod i can analyze

i helped another user w this

[scenic garden]

shouldn't be a 2s delay, I'm at 54 ping

[rare hollow]

oh 250 thats interestin

[tawdry carbon]

2s delay at 40 ping doesnt sound right

[rare hollow]

yeah i discovered about that global max cap at yama

[potent quail]

OHHH its the robospear thing

[ancient wolf]

I'm too lazy to try setting up a video recording of it.

[potent quail]

thats when they imüplemented it

[rare hollow]

when robospear was invented

[tawdry carbon]

robospear was crazy

[silent garnet]

There is clearly some sort of 'leagues' damage cap.

I hit that cap and then roll my hit between 250 and 275.

But the actual hit should be 1k ( a 1 shot)

[rare hollow]

gotta love it

[tawdry carbon]

i only heard about it because my friends wokr in data science [openai etc]

[potent quail]

so thats why it wasnt in the last league

[tawdry carbon]

and sent it to me cause they remembered i liked osrs lol

[ancient wolf]

It's not an exact 2 second delay, but it's roughly 1-2 seconds for certain things and I never know when it hits

[potent quail]

robospear happend after last league
So the new damage cap didnt exist yet

[rare hollow]

i remembering watching the entire video

that shit was fire

[ancient wolf]

I will try to tick eat and then my pray gets removed after I get hit by a roaming pillar of fire

[harsh oyster]

my stupid ass got my inventory and gear all prepped for sins of the father only to arrive at slepe and remember i need 60 fletching to do the quest

off to vale totems i guess

[ancient wolf]

I will be the first to admit I am absolute ass at this game

[tawdry carbon]

vale totems is actualyl so fun though

My fletching is my lowest skill on my main because i hated levelling it

i dont like bank standing in general.

[little wraith]

Vale totems is great

[harsh oyster]

its grown on me, definitely one of the more engaging methods of skilling

[tawdry carbon]

but now im excited to come back to main game and level fletching

thing is when i joined osrs

i joined like.. 2018? 2019? Cox was already out idk when

i beelined to high combat stats and quests just to boss and raid

[rare hollow]

5min at vale totems for 60 fletch

[tawdry carbon]

and started collecting pets

then i left sometime in 2020-2021

[potent quail]

ok now with researching a bit
i agree with you now, it is a bug

the damage cap makes sense in the main game, but i can see VERY strong arguments to remove it completly in leagues as you mentioned it blocks build variety and fun.

i would argue this alone is a strong case to escalate it directly to the jmods

[tawdry carbon]

so in that 1-2 year i got more PVM experience than a lot of long time vets

thank goodness ppl like aaty had inferno breakdowns

and i never had any dumb fukin requirements like get my quest cape before i raid just get ur stats up and gear up

lmao

yeah talking to u infamimi

condescendin headass

[silent garnet]

How to escalate?

[tawdry carbon]

vale totem, hunter rumors, i want stuff like that in every skill

[spring cipher]

man jagex is anti fun

[harsh oyster]

when i came back to osrs recently-ish i mostly just started Doing Shit

[spring cipher]

lol

[scenic garden]

took me 30 attempts and trying again on a good day to get echo hunllef. if you keep trying you can figure out how to compensate for the lag kinda.

[potent quail]

i do this rarely but i would say this is worthy of a modash ping
in a nice message

[harsh oyster]

i dont think i had any main focus at all, i was just questing and having fun with the odd bit of skilling inbetween

[tawdry carbon]

2 second lag is so many game ticks assuming its constant he's (mostly) cooked.

[scenic garden]

if he's really at 40 ping he should have a better chance than me

[rare hollow]

alright later lads gonna run cox with my boi

[tawdry carbon]

i agree if hes at 40 ping

[rare hollow]

and 2 newblets

[amber sleet]

2 second lag is like 2000 ping

lol

[tawdry carbon]

no gi1ded infamimi said you cant pvm unless u have questcape

[rare hollow]

we're all gonna get mega scrolls

[tawdry carbon]

it is 2000 ping.

[amber sleet]

yeah

[rare hollow]

oh naurs

[tawdry carbon]

which is >3ticks

[scenic garden]

but if it's fluxuating like some internet I've had, it's just an impossible issue

[potent quail]

(or modhusky, didnt saw ash talking about league dev at all, husky seems to be the guy for that

[tawdry carbon]

i thought ash moved over to PMT

[little wraith]

yeah ping does not completely capture your connection situation

[tawdry carbon]

there is ping, there is jitter, packet loss, etc

[amber sleet]

the only time i've ever seen 2k ping was back in like 2010 when i was playing wc3 with someone port forward hosting with shit internet and their connection was cutting out

[tawdry carbon]

but if hes getting game actions registering 2 seconds later and his ping sys 40ms hes fucked lol

[ancient wolf]

So the thing is that it's not an exact 2 second delay but a 1-2 second delay that happens at random, I cannot figure out how it happens or why. I thought it was because he was hitting me with the pray removing attack that deals damage when you use prayer but that's not it. I'll sometimes hit a lag spike when I'm just standing still

[little wraith]

like I get 30 ping but will lose 100-150ms often enough to notice

[tawdry carbon]

Did you network test for packet loss ?

are you wifi or ethernet

[ancient wolf]

ethernet

watching a video on my 2nd monitor as well

[tawdry carbon]

video is going smooth?

is your PC prebuilt

[ancient wolf]

yeah it's all good

[toxic vortex]

@ancient wolf do you have any plugins for task tracking for leagues?

[ancient wolf]

no it's not prebuilt

[silver crescent]

how many kc do i stay for enhanced or do i just quit i got my 6 armor seeds

[ancient wolf]

I do have plugins for task tracking in leagues

[toxic vortex]

Uninstall them

[tawdry carbon]

stay for the 100kc task

[little wraith]

corrupted weapon is a pact

[ancient wolf]

you know what that might be it, I'll test

[tawdry carbon]

just fyi some "gaming" mobo ethernet shim layers have stupid software that will "prioritize" certain activities on your PC.
and yeah, task tracking i think had some issues, i dont use it

[toxic vortex]

I had the same problem with one of the plugins

[little wraith]

if you have nature accord each extra seed is 280-320 shards for ~250k crafting and smithing xp

[tawdry carbon]

i had a weird problem where games that werent recognized by the dumb shim layer were getting de-priod when i played on the windows install instead of on my linux install

question:
did you tiranwin folks actually do 50m crafting/smithing with the crystal seed?
i know of menu entry swapper, is there a dialogue swapper to make this less annoying

(of course one thats allowed by jagex)

[toxic vortex]

not that I know of

[silver crescent]

the tast tracking plugin literally made cg unplayable for me with lag

[toxic vortex]

thats the one

[little wraith]

I only did around 3mil of shards it wasn't so bad

I don't have larcenist though

[tawdry carbon]

imat 99 but 25/50m xp tasks are good points

i wonder if ishould do tai bwo wannai trio and easy diaries yet

[ancient wolf]

less lag but those pillars are getting me still, I'll keep going

[tawdry carbon]

remember that your character when running is visually a tick behind your actual true tile.

and that you translate 2 tiles per tick when running

[little wraith]

tai bwo wannai is prereq for 180 points

as far as I can tell

[ancient wolf]

I miss when things were simple, I'm not smart enough to keep track of so many ticks

[silent garnet]

Do you have flask or minion?

[ancient wolf]

no I don't have the last relic yet

[little wraith]

The relative tile indicators and tile indicators plugins are useful for not messing up your movement

[silent garnet]

Bro. Go get the last relic

I would never try to get a newer player to do echo hunleif without the last relic

He is literally not even in the base game. He is INTENDED to be done with leagues gear

[past forge]

so like besides 3rd age what is the most desirable stuff from clue scrolls??

[amber sleet]

i mean

[past forge]

Im only doing medium/hard rn but

[amber sleet]

most of the echo bosses are easier than much of the base game content objectively speaking

[silent garnet]

Ranger boots afaik

[little wraith]

if you have minion you need zam items and God d'hide is a task

[amber sleet]

i wouldn't say you need leagues stuff to beat them

[ancient wolf]

I saw people saying that Echo Hun was easy and others saying he was hard. I thought I could do it without near max pacts and all relics

[silver crescent]

i am no gm i need leagues stuff to beat echo hunleaf lol

[scenic garden]

there's very little on the pact tree that actuall affects gauntlet

[silent garnet]

Rendi got a fire cape at level 3 bro. Its all relative.

As someone who has shown new players higher level content in the league, I don't think killing echo hunleif is reasonable for someone who doesn't have higher level pvm experience

[silver crescent]

@ancient wolf what is messing you up? i've done 75 kc this morning

[amber sleet]

to be fair if you're playing blindbag you're practically almost already doing echo hunleff with no leagues bonuses

[silver crescent]

fair that is true if he isn't using 1t staff and prayer pen i can't help lol

[ancient wolf]

tbh I've never been good at this shit, it's why I don't even play the game anymore because I'm not physically capable of doing most of the tick perfect stuff

[ancient wolf]

just the timing and moving away from pillars as well as pray flicking

[silver crescent]

are you using blindbag?

[silent garnet]

IF you are getting echo hunleif down to 300, then the last tier of relic is basically gonna make the fight free as fuck.

[ancient wolf]

1t water mage and thorns - sadly no thorns in gauntlet

[amber sleet]

you're definitely capable, you just need to remove the layer of fog between you and the game's controls by making them muscle memory

[ancient wolf]

I'll just get my last relic and see what else I can do.

[amber sleet]

unless your reaction time is above .6 seconds

[scenic garden]

the 1t staff helps alot

[amber sleet]

which is like brain damage territory

[silent garnet]

This is the way.

[ancient wolf]

No, I'm not physically capable lmao I have possible nerve damage in my arms and had rotator cuff surgery last year I'm still recovering from

[peak crypt]

Is there a way to have your minion not note herbs and have them go into the herb sack? Like its right there! Just put it in!

[scenic garden]

minion will make the fight a bit faster, flask will make the fight a bit safer

[amber sleet]

understandable; unfortunate

[ancient wolf]

I actually love watching others being capable of doing tick perfect stuff, it's just not for me.

[scenic garden]

you can rclick the minion item and set it to stop noting

[silent garnet]

Flask changes the fight because you get to stand in the lightning for like 7 seconds

[silver crescent]

one thing that helped me a ton in cg is to not click around like a maniac, calm cool collected 1 clicks to move away from tornados, then click in a diferent direction or around the square

[little wraith]

oof rotator cuff is rough

[ancient wolf]

yeah I saw that flask might be better over minion but idk

[silver crescent]

also i just got so hyped because i saw weapon seed. wrong weapon seed.

[peak crypt]

Yeah but I want it to note literally everything else lol. But if a mob has 10 different herbs that it drops noted, thats most of my inv. When it could go into herb sack instead

[ancient wolf]

yeah I had a giant hole in my rotator cuff for 6 years and had no idea lmao

[silent garnet]

Flask is way better for almost everything. Minion is for boring DPS boost

[scenic garden]

ask jagex to let you put noted herbs in the bag

[little wraith]

Flask is better for bosses minion is the general utility pick

[scenic garden]

minion is still good for bosses

[silent garnet]

Flask lets you phase skip bosses. Its like the executioners axe,. but you get to pick the timing

[scenic garden]

think it took 1/3 off my zulrah pb

[spring cipher]

it doesnt work in some bosses like olm u dont deal damage to melee mage or head phase

[silver crescent]

im the guy that got tanz fang in 6kc and havne't gone back yet

[little wraith]

Flask is good if it lets you close the gap between success and failure

[silent garnet]

Wow.

[silent garnet]

I really disagree. Flask is just better at all bosses. You get to burst them at the time of your choosing to either speed up slow phases or skip boring phases.

You can literally just skip 1 phase of each of the toa boses becaue the puzzle rooms mean you always get your flask back.

No kehpri dung, no simon says, no zebak enrage, no phase 3 warden dps check

its crazy

[tawdry carbon]

Flask is very good.

I picked minion for thematic reasons and noting my drops since I'm comfortable as a PVMer, but even though I am flask would help me be so much lazier.

IMO Flask>axe>minion.

[spring cipher]

executionenrs axe if u spam it at 20% at verzik in hardmode tob it bypasses the healing phase

lol

[tawdry carbon]

bloat and xarp too

makes the runs way quicker

[silent garnet]

Nice.

Yea, I didn't get mory, but I imagine bloat with flask means you can just 1 down him every time.

[tawdry carbon]

not every time.

remember there's lots of water thorns mages out there

who somehow still plank with 188hp

But it's really nice when they try to PK you

blindbag+minion is the most ethical choice overall so you can actually play the game, at least until youre done w pacts and most challs

then go some afk build

[silent garnet]

Why isn't there a global best time for echo cg?

[long trail]

what

are u being fr

just skip the heal?

[spring cipher]

ye

[long trail]

valid reason to pick axe

[spring cipher]

u see the giant purple healing thing proc but shes already a bat

lol

[long trail]

that would’ve helped lots when i had to solo final phase in hmt 5 man

:/

[spring cipher]

its not so bad in leagues

[long trail]

with a dhally it took forever and i still planked

kited her in spider form for like 35 minutes

[tawdry carbon]

solo final hmt in leagues is ez pz especially as blindbag

but i had nox hally

hehe

[toxic vortex]

so I made the crossbow in yanille for the ardy elite task

[spring cipher]

upgrade that to a nox hally

lol

[toxic vortex]

but it didn't complete

[long trail]

im TRYING fuckin 3000 points spent almost on tasks no araxyte 😭😭😭

[spring cipher]

did u make it from scratch

[long trail]

its so unfair and stupid that i didnt pick culling

[toxic vortex]

ofc

made the limbs, made the stock

attached the two

all three of those stages completed

[spring cipher]

u made it inside kandarin right

it worked for me

[toxic vortex]

I was standing inside the hut with the anvil in yanille

[spring cipher]

you might have missed a step somewhere

[long trail]

dont you need to like

string a cbow

[spring cipher]

oh yea

did u string it

[toxic vortex]

Ofc I strung it

[spring cipher]

with the thing u made from the cow thing

[long trail]

huh

then wtf

[spring cipher]

[[ardy diary]]

[obsidian bluff]

Wiki links found:
https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Ardougne_Diary

[little wraith]

did you make the string in witchhavennm

[livid slate]

Did you make the sinew in witchhaven?

[toxic vortex]

I did not

[long trail]

im assuming this is the answer based on both ^

[spring cipher]

u need to make the sinew in witchhaven

[toxic vortex]

lame

[topaz gust]

Can someone help me with fight pit karamja achievement on leagues?

[tawdry carbon]

i will but ill wait for the gatekeepers to pipe up first

[spring cipher]

reading is indeed a skill for osrs xd most of the time it isnt a bug if something doesnt work ur likely missing something

[tawdry carbon]

lets see if for all their pontificating and wrongful grandstanding they help someone in need as much as i have

[topaz gust]

nvm ound someone

[silver crescent]

jagex why can't we have more free resets

.../s

[toxic vortex]

I mean they gave us another one today

[silver crescent]

thats the joke

[past forge]

nah they gatekeeping resets

[pure karma]

i hope they give unlimited resets the final week

just for fun

[past forge]

your choices should matter

just making it a ffa kinda defeats the purpose

[spring cipher]

they should show infinite resets for final week but the second u reset and spec into it, it shows no more resets

april fools!

[tawdry carbon]

they should make being a toxic gatekeeper elitist in thiss server bannable on the main game

wishful thinking

[past forge]

yeah they should make it so if you reset you just get zero pacts now gg

[tawdry carbon]

'

[tawdry carbon]

relics alone would make it still miles above maingame tho

[past forge]

shhh

theyd still cry so much

[tawdry carbon]

better yet

Give everyone a "re-do your relics" but it dosent let you get any relics

[past forge]

serial resetters be damned

[merry sphinx]

hopefully next leagues they can change the quest page so it only shows quests for the regions you have unlocked

[spring cipher]

if u reset it goes to 0 pacts and u cant re earn pacts and then you can finally properly learn content in leagues just like he wanted

xD

[past forge]

As yama wished

[fickle thistle]

what do the relic hunter outfits actually do? are they just cosmetic outfits? trying to figure out what i want.

[scenic garden]

add inf pact resets, but you have to fight brutus to get them

[silver crescent]

okay i think 90 echo hunleaf is my limit for one sitting i just walked in with no prayers and couldn't figure out why i died so fast

[pure karma]

yep

[floral quest]

Howdy all, I'm getting ready to spec away from a thorns build (areas are Kandarin & Tirwanwynn [sp?]). Is there any content that is a must-do before dropping thorns? I've got echo amox's weapon and a trident. Next goal is Corrupted Gauntlet grinding

[past forge]

shoulda made pact resets a drop off mobs

rare as visage

or rarer fk it

[tacit oyster]

not bad, almost 100 searches per kc

[tawdry carbon]

inferno and colo are afk as thorns.
but its perfactly do-able as blindbag.

[fickle thistle]

36.9k points, hoping to get rune by the end of this week and dragon by the end of leagues. gonna swap to water thorns to try and just blast out whatever pvm im bad at.

[tawdry carbon]

im at 48k atm but

i have like 2-3k really easy points

ive just been busy

so most of my points have been afk past 1-2 weeks =/

i havent even done easy diaries, quests

i only rushed bosses/combat achieves cuz im good at those

[bold cove]

My ring of suffering ran out at long last and it's made a shocking difference in araxxor kill time

[tawdry carbon]

since i did them on main game

[spring cipher]

dont be condecending

[scenic garden]

I'm running water thorns, colo def isn't afk lol. even if I get lucky with not too bad debuffs.

[tawdry carbon]

nothing condescending about this. hes still thorns, its arguably easier to inferno and colo as thorns than blindbag.

[fickle thistle]

i have lots of easy stuff too and im just skilling to 50m with my relic choices first, then maxing.

that should be a nice stimulus bump.

[tawdry carbon]

what forces you to move? Pretty sure if you just camp ranged you can tank and reflect-kill manticores.
i think unless you get something absurd like monster-exlode death plus the molten sand you can get stacked out but hard to imagine anything else

and sol basically cant kill you so you just stand there

maybe move for a lazer stack

[scenic garden]

manticores force me to flick, spearthrowers force me to move, bees (if I have to pick them over something) force me to target them

[tacit oyster]

you need max tank gear to not have high chance to die from not prayer correctly everything

[tawdry carbon]

i actually dont think you have to flick manticores.

bees are a choice, spearthrowers i think are the only thing after molten piles, they cant kill you before that unless you also get the manitcore stack and also dont pray

[scenic kiln]

oh my, 44 kc on smoke devil, and only got the amulet so far >.<

[harsh oyster]

guaranteed drop at 50 at least

[scenic kiln]

haha yes

6 to go

[tacit oyster]

relentless will also ignore tank gear so even that wont help if you have it. would need perfect modifiers to be able to afk at center i think

[scenic garden]

if I don't flick them they can plank me. esp once I take mayhem and there are two of them. it may kill them faster with my thorns but they do alot of damage off prayer.

[tawdry carbon]

it took me ~100 for my first unsired 😭 and I think I went to hard pity for the echo items before i got an occult lmao

[tawdry carbon]

with full justi+dfs+ech oboots?

it may just be a gear thing then

[scenic garden]

no justi or dfs yet

[tawdry carbon]

maybe thats what the other thorners are runnign differently

either way, im fairly confident itll be easier as thorns than blindbag

if not fully afk, you can run it mostly wrong

due to the sustain

dont have to worry about solving stacks

[tacit oyster]

thorns is easier than blindbag, but most of the time you do need to actually split enemies to have high chance of getting to sol

[tawdry carbon]

i assume thats the case pre-max thorns gear.

hard to imagine full 40 pact with justi, dfs, echo boots, conflicts isn't just steamrolling with barely any attention.

[merry wadi]

dharoks and obby shield I was able to only worry about flicking manticores

[tacit oyster]

even max thorns cannot afk everything since you run out of prayer, have chosen relentless which removes your defenses or have reduced max hp and no overheal

[tawdry carbon]

You run out of prayer with the air regen?

everyone ive seen just prays endlessly

lol

[merry wadi]

def dont run out of prayer

[tawdry carbon]

the only thing thats rng to afk is zuk ignoring the shield

but you can fuck up 75% of the shield and kill him

[tacit oyster]

if you choose blasphemy yes

[scenic garden]

I need to get the inferno tiles

[merry wadi]

nah even blasphemy 2 you dont run out

[tawdry carbon]

these are some of the only tiles I use from main game
you can set them in the jad challenge pretty sure

[tacit oyster]

without praying for anything in colosseum and afking in center?

[tawdry carbon]

idk how its easier to get a jad/zuk task in main game than leagues

feels so backwards. i really should have picked cull

[merry wadi]

standing center in colo, praying range and augury

[tawdry carbon]

yeah u just pray range.

[merry wadi]

with blasphemy 2

[tawdry carbon]

close!

i might finally do tai bwo wannai trio and some achievement diaries after i wrap up some emails

[merry wadi]

now granted... thinking about it - it probably does depend on if youre post 100% regeneration or not

ill concede that one

[plush elk]

is ranged echo on regen working for anyone? i havent seen one in days

[next dust]

how to get this without Kandarin?

we need zenyte?

[merry wadi]

it drops as complete item

[plush elk]

they drop completed

[spring cipher]

i would not flick, just focus on prayer switching instead, you shouldnt have any prayer problems in leagues

[next dust]

why are they called "Ferocious gloves"

that is so lacking badassery

call em "Ferocious gauntlets"

[hazy anvil]

I think it's because of the material they're made of. Gauntlets normally have some sort of metal protection iirc.

[tacit oyster]

also depends on rng if you get hit high or not. like the shockers and manticore mage hit are guaranteed to hit you if you pray range and are in melee tank gear. if they hit 3 times high hits your prayer will be low

[toxic vortex]

anyone want to do a trawler run for ardy elite?

[plush elk]

666 was packed a few days ago

[tawdry carbon]

i can get behind this

[tawdry carbon]

666 i was getting full boats yesteday

[tawdry carbon]

yes but if he doesnt even learn lazy flick how will get get the quest cape to qualify for anything in maingame? obviously buttered potatoes are the path to zuk

[sleek olive]

Can we fix the drop rate table for "Chewed bones" to accurately reflect x5 drop rate please? I'm 1862 KC mithril dragons at 40 chewed bones. Is the 5x rate intended to not work on this table?

[tacit oyster]

you are not even at drop rate yet

[spring cipher]

isnt it 5x but the bones arent 5x?

[mighty zodiac]

have you considered 1m of purple sweets and 27 charged rings of suffering

[spring cipher]

bones are 1/40

[tacit oyster]

dragon full helm is mega rare in main game, so even in league it is one of the longest grinds

[tawdry carbon]

idk bro im just going off infamimis requirements

[spring cipher]

i think its 1/51 chewed bones

but chewed bones drop rates arent buffed

[tawdry carbon]

i got mine in 9 chewed bones. then dfs in like 400? metal drags.

i think those droprates are bugged cuz its just so common

[bold cove]

It's not common

[tawdry carbon]

me with my spooned drops

[mighty zodiac]

dw bro I'm memeing about tick eating for the entire game
purple sweets don't even work in inferno

[tawdry carbon]

one of my friends back when we were working on meta dust at cms had such a giant purple sweet stack

made me jealous ngl

[tacit oyster]

well that is true since chewed bones are not notable unique drops

[sleek olive]

This is intended design?

[spring cipher]

the list of items that are buffed in drop rate are listed on the wiki

[tawdry carbon]

-- boosted drops --

[spring cipher]

the dragon fullhelm is buffed

[obsidian bluff]

Wiki links found:
https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/_boosted_drops_

[tawdry carbon]

here is the source for boosted drops

[spring cipher]

but chewed bones are not buffed

[tawdry carbon]

idk why we are gatekeeping the wiki pages now smh

[mighty zodiac]

there's probably some insane guy who got the infinite food relic just for purple sweets

[tawdry carbon]

i met him like week 1 of league. dude had 3rd age kite and urne throwing knives. i still think of him to this day

[sleek olive]

thanks cutie, I hope you have a great day

[spring cipher]

seems pointless as u can just angler karambwan

[tawdry carbon]

this was literally him

lmaoaoao

i wonder how throwables feel

my friend went thorns/throwable and hes close to dragon cup

that was something i wanted to try

[tacit oyster]

zuk and i think also inferno jad can hit higher than current hp so tick eating itself doesnt work in inferno. purple sweets just banned to remove infinite healing item

[pulsar oriole]

Its to hot

[tawdry carbon]

low key i picked minion to not have a visafe moment

[viscid plover]

which build y'all running and if so, why (asking for TKM region), im water mage thorns atm, but it starts to get boring

[mighty zodiac]

too hot so your entire stack of sweets melts
Punished for even thinking about using them

[pulsar oriole]

Melted candy!

[tawdry carbon]

jokes on you i like my toxic american syrup

[tacit oyster]

playing whole game with strange fruit in inventory is eternal sustenance meta

[tawdry carbon]

https://giphy.com/gifs/laff-tv-martin-lawrence-black-knight-finger-licking-HFpU6ykvMDCR3NqOzW

[tacit oyster]

dont need 20 antipoison pots when you can eat the fruit

[tawdry carbon]

i dont know if i like evil eye more than orb of recall

but i dont particularly miss repeatedly godsword speccing and house>recall spamming

[spring cipher]

i simply explode to clear the poison

XD

[scenic garden]

would strange fruit work for nightmare parasite?

[lone quiver]

dont think so

[spring cipher]

no

[tacit oyster]

flask probably would

[spring cipher]

it doesnt either

u need sanfews or the other thing

[lone quiver]

Relicym's balm is buyable

[scenic garden]

that mechanic sucks

where can you buy it?

[spring cipher]

Nightmare: "congrats on the kid"
you: 🫃

[spring cipher]

near castle wars from the ogre guys or something

[lone quiver]

You have to give him 1 balm before you can buy it. So, gotta make 1 first

[late helm]

I have pretty much tanked and outhealed all poison and venom so far lol

[merry wadi]

mood i regret taking eternal sustenance cause i just... never need food for anything lol

[mighty zodiac]

infinite strange fruits sounds good for certain situations though

[spring cipher]

have u done the vard ca

axe enthusisist

survive vard's enrage in the middle of the arena for 3 minutes

before killing him

sustenance is really good for that

completing vard cas=200 more points

[merry wadi]

yeah i guess i might as well do that lol

[spring cipher]

just keep combo eating

for 3 min straight

u will have to beat awakened vard

for the cas tho

but its a nice chunk of points

[merry sphinx]

why doesnt woodsman work on the redwood walking sticks

[austere mirage]

The forbidden Ore!

[tawdry carbon]

ur game looks so freaky what is this lol

[austere mirage]

Freaky area

or runelite mod that changes how it look a bit

[spring cipher]

wheres this rock

even located at

[austere mirage]

That better?

[dense forge]

Looks like custodia

[austere mirage]

||The|||| Strangle||||Wood||

[spring cipher]

ohhh

THERES ORE there???

i had no idea

[austere mirage]

yeah!

[dense forge]

It's got the funny chest you can only use once too, I think

[spring cipher]

do you know who scrongle is btw

[austere mirage]

Nope!

[spring cipher]

[past matrix]

Turns out Doom just drops the Confliction Gauntlets whole obvious in hindsight... Oh well

[spring cipher]

ye

otherwise ur forced to take kandarin if u want it

which would suck big time

[torpid trench]

As if Kandarin wasnt the #1 pick anyway

[spring cipher]

yea true lol

[torpid trench]

Still glad they considered it a problem tho, because it wont always work out that the best region is the one you need

[spring cipher]

or like

needing kandarin to make rancour

would also blow

[torpid trench]

As if Kand Mory isnt the #1 pick because of waterthorns mages

But still, I see your point

[pure karma]

i had no idea this existed

[past birch]

Anyone wants to send a crazy TOA/COX RIAD?

[torpid trench]

I think today is the day I finally tackle the colosseum

[scenic garden]

you got this

[past birch]

I got colo world record

[torpid trench]

Ill be rockin this

[torpid trench]

Then Ill go deep delve until I get the conf gauntlets

[past birch]

Sorry I didn't mean to say it right as you said you were gonna tackle it

[torpid trench]

and then its down in a fiery inferno

[past birch]

You simply reminded me that pb

[scenic garden]

what are those gloves?

[torpid trench]

granite gloves

[past matrix]

Looks like Granite

[torpid trench]

Got them randomly while hunting my mory orb, and it was better than my leather ones

[austere mirage]

So who is that?

[torpid trench]

[austere mirage]

a duck?

Food?

[harsh oyster]

a duck????????

[spring cipher]

the pet for one of the sailing bosses that came out

the bird emote used here

[austere mirage]

Ahhhhh

so we cant get it

[spring cipher]

[spring cipher]

no i was gonna say, imagine if theres a hardmode of the boss and got infected by the strangled virus like vardorvis is
and you had to fight it in a forrest near vard and its named
"The scrongle woods"

[austere mirage]

hehehe

[tacit oyster]

i might farm royal titans for my rc xp. getting 900k xp/h from pages

[strange jacinth]

i got the bottomless compost bucket but didnt get it?

[austere mirage]

i need to go fight Vardorvis. but its bedtime.

I just spent like 2 hours making 3 tubs of biscuits

[strange jacinth]

i think game bugged because it usually requires 2 free spaces for that chance but gave me 3 items and insta left the instance with bucket on ground

[tacit oyster]

in dmm it used to delete the buckets if you rolled it without enough inventory space lol

[strange jacinth]

yeah thankfully not a task lol

[spring cipher]

my fav emote from that discord is the eating crayon one

[tacit oyster]

but there they changed it to drop multiple buckets i guess

[tawdry carbon]

guys i take back all i said

infamimi <50min inferno , they can continue to gatekeep. i renounce my title.

[spring cipher]

wha

[austere mirage]

i cant find it

[spring cipher]

what does that even mean

lol

[austere mirage]

so i am gonna go throw this at someone before i go bed

[spring cipher]

damn

[tawdry carbon]

i didnt know u had aaty levels of gameplay i used to talk him

im no loinger the anti gatekeeper. . .

ur times better than mine by a longshot if ur <1hr

[spring cipher]

im not even in there

wtf

[tawdry carbon]

i am now slow zuker..

😭

[spring cipher]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/840624813932281886.gif?v=1

[austere mirage]

i dont even know who it is

[spring cipher]

what is blud on about

[austere mirage]

someone used a cute sticker and i was like yo i am stealing that

[tawdry carbon]

it was probably mac10

@shrewd ermine yo u got some cute stickers for osrs noob

[spring cipher]

this baiting butthead is strawmanning and making shit up

😭

[tawdry carbon]

i assumed ur quest cape gatekeep was unfounded bro

but now i realize

thats the key to inferno speedrunning

https://giphy.com/gifs/Enr4bc3JeOOzHLYY8R

no bait

only good vibes

[next dust]

new bis?

upgrade from whip

[shrewd ermine]

[tawdry carbon]

where avernic

[next dust]

avernic?

i dont have desert

[tawdry carbon]

u dont have mortalania?

[next dust]

or morytania no

[tawdry carbon]

avernic defender is in mortungolungo

[next dust]

im a ranged user

[tawdry carbon]

ranged = quiver bis no

[tawdry carbon]

wheres ur notetaking sticker

i seen u use it

[shrewd ermine]

[next dust]

idk quiver content yet

[tawdry carbon]

there we go

[tawdry carbon]

theres a colosim but i got clanker'd for posting it =-////

[strange jacinth]

did we just get another reset

[shrewd ermine]

me learning from people

[tawdry carbon]

@austere mirage ^ Any of these ur stickers u were looking for?

[tawdry carbon]

oh youre right i think we did

thats actually hyper

time to go thrown wep + thorns

[tacit oyster]

infernal cape bis for thrown weapons i guess

[next dust]

should i continue echo cerb for for boot crystals, or regular?

i assume its same droprate?

[shrewd ermine]

echo bosses share the same drop table as their regular counterparts I believe

for example I got occult from echo thermy

[next dust]

cool

i already got pegasian

but need the others

[tacit oyster]

fire guy died in lava so cannot loot him

[austere mirage]

I have most of them

[shrewd ermine]

I have this sticker too

if you know you know

[tacit oyster]

royal titans bug so hard if you kill them before they get to phase 2 lmao

[spring cipher]

what in the ai

[shrewd ermine]

it's not ai

[short cave]

do echo kills count towards total kills for CA?

[shrewd ermine]

echo kills count for gauntlet so I assume so

[short cave]

oh yeah forgot about that

[tacit oyster]

echo kills do count yes

[short cave]

i just dont wanna get a slayer task for cerb just to do ca lol

[spring cipher]

wtf

[shrewd ermine]

it's real trust

[spring cipher]

ai slop!!!

[shrewd ermine]

nu uh!

this is ai slop

https://tenor.com/view/67-meme-ai-dog-67-dog-gif-7198264032800768333

[tawdry carbon]

what on earth is this cursed

monstrosity

[tawdry carbon]

should

[shrewd ermine]

i dont even know anymore

[lone bloom]

ranger boots from a medium lol

[spring cipher]

https://tenor.com/view/pet-bird-lebron-james-gif-15135014152140003677

[next dust]

lol he didnt even get to ghosts

Dagger go brrrrrr

ugh ok sure

[tawdry carbon]

gzzz

[next dust]

idk if it does anything tho

i have woodsman

ignore that one

hmm fighting commander zilyana without the range of my bow build is a bit tougher

[proper wave]

There's a task to complete a barb agility course lap, but I can't do the barb training as I don't have fremmy unlocked. Am I overlooking something or?

[next dust]

it's a bit more active with darts

[tawdry carbon]

its not cuz of fremmy, iirc u need to do the bar crawl and some should be crossed out already

[scenic garden]

you only need kandarin for that

[proper wave]

Gotcha - I haven't checked but yes I haven't completed the bar crawl. I just assumed I couldn't do those bars

[scenic garden]

all the inaccessible bars are crossed out

[tacit oyster]

barbarian agility isnt behind full barbarian training. only need to complete barcrawl

[proper wave]

Thanks 🙂

[tawdry carbon]

no problemo

[strange jacinth]

skill issue (too much skill)

[tawdry carbon]

anyone going for 50m herblore?

whats most optimal path?

[shrewd ermine]

what's the best route for doing moons?

[late helm]

I’m proud of you Halo

[late helm]

Evil eye each entrance

[scenic garden]

damn, would need 3k more bones for 50m prayer. II don't think I wanna process all that lol

[spring cipher]

normally i just do eclipse and run across/tp to blue moon, run across/tp to blood moon , finish blood moon and then run south for the chest

[shrewd ermine]

no evil eye

[spring cipher]

eclipse>blue moon>blood moon

is probably the easiest then if no evil eye

[shrewd ermine]

that's what im thinking

[spring cipher]

finishing eclipse sends u just a few steps away from blue moon entrance

and finishing blue moon sends u next to blood moon entrance

[tawdry carbon]

wtf for real

ive been doing blue>eclipse>blood

why didnt u tell me this before i did the full grind+cas

😭

my potatoes are buttered

[shrewd ermine]

are moons just a boss I can do with randoms? kind of confusing how there are people in the same room as me

[tawdry carbon]

the hp bar is not shared iirc but u can have company

which i kinda like

[spring cipher]

it works like barrows does

ur doing it alongside other people

but everyone has their own boss to fight

people hitting the boss has nothing to do with ur boss losing hp

[shrewd ermine]

ah okay its just funny how I show up and suddenly it's already raining blood lol

[spring cipher]

the phases transition non stop

as well

[shrewd ermine]

oh ok

[spring cipher]

like u can check which phase its in before u enter

u can walk in after a phase ends if u want

[tawdry carbon]

Question:
anyone going for 50m herblore? whats your optimal path there, assuming herbs are not an issue?

[shrewd ermine]

herblore is my weakest skill so probably not. could just make butler do herbs

[tacit oyster]

for most players herbs should be the issue, unless avoiding farming and using butler

[toxic vortex]

200 chompies done

[toxic vortex]

butler/super attacks if I decided to do it

[tawdry carbon]

i have infinite secondaries too

[tacit oyster]

so you will also have infinite herbs if you do skilling to 50m xp

[regal spindle]

Is there a sheet somewhere of the top builds of this league? lookin to experiment with the free pact reset

[spring cipher]

have u done air mage

its so much damage

[slim crag]

Okay, I'm caving in. How's this for a magic/thorns build?
https://tools.runescape.wiki/demonic-pacts/?n=1-10-100-107-108-109-11-112-113-114-122-135-136-139-140-141-145-146-44-45-46-55-56-58-59-6-60-67-68-7-71-74-8-81-84-9-93-96-97-99

[tacit oyster]

most best dps builds require specific region comboes

[regal spindle]

I have, but i'm unsure if i did it right. and when i last tried it, i was at like 30 pacts

[spring cipher]

yea some builds are very specific ig

yea

[sturdy roost]

can someone help with a nex build.

don't really wanna water mage 6:30 kills

[chilly pine]

oh no, there's no dupe protection

[lone quiver]

Pretty good, looks exactly like mine except for like 3 nodes. I personally dont get much benefit from distance thorn, so I opted for powered staff, helps with solo tob. And, I went with 145% regen instead of 115%

[slim crag]

Thorns distance healing is very situational but I can think of a few instances where it's really good off the top of my head. CoX, Inferno, Jad challenges, Coliseum, etc.

[storm wigeon]

Why do metal dragons just REFUSE to aggro?

[slim crag]

Are you fighting metal dragons in Karamja?

[storm wigeon]

I was. Now I'm in kourend catacombs

Both places they just don't aggro

[grand fable]

anyone wanna help me kill corpo? i doubt its possible though i just need that pact point...

[slim crag]

Yeah, metal dragons have a short aggro range.

[storm wigeon]

Dont get credit if someone helps

[grand fable]

fack

[storm wigeon]

4200 kills and counting at corp lol. I want the pet

[grand fable]

whats the key to him? ive looked it up but i just popped

[spring cipher]

they do but after a while they lose aggro and u have to reset their aggro

[strange jacinth]

just did a BA wave for wrath runes and 1 guy was absolutely seething that the healer couldnt play

i almost insta logged but sunk cost on the round was a 5 minute wave 1

[storm wigeon]

Honestly... I just afk with water mage cuz its broken lol

[grand fable]

yeah im kings barrage im a point away from being healer barrage its corpo kicking my butt

[granite yacht]

I'm a complete idiot and doing hunter for the first time.
Do I just put a bird snare down and wait?

Do I have to move away?
Do I have to place it near the birds to reduce the time?

[storm wigeon]

Place it and just make sure you don't stand on top of it

[granite yacht]

the proximity of the bird matters?

[storm wigeon]

As long as they are in the area

[granite yacht]

kk ty

[strange jacinth]

healing with the barrage changes the game honestly

was doing no food ToA and venging on CD

[grand fable]

yeah ive been dying for it

[storm wigeon]

I tried barrage... I wanted to like it... I just seemed to either have the worst rng hitting or just happened to keep fighting stuff immune to half the weapon.

[scenic garden]

pretty sure it does need to be within their roaming area. try to place it near alot of birds for the best chance.

[strange jacinth]

just dont stand on top of the trap, otherwise all rng

[granite yacht]

tyty

[storm wigeon]

Man. I'm the next B0aty with this visage...

[white marsh]

how much def do you need before doom isn't chomping through melee prot for 20-30 damage?

[chilly pine]

does this not apply to the barrage?

[rough elk]

am i being stupid, where do i find red spider egg spawn in the wildy? we cant get to edgeville dungeon right?

[torpid trench]

kc?

[storm wigeon]

It does. Hence why I said I had the WORST rng

[scenic garden]

it's still weird that standing on the trap entirely negates the 100% chance to catch, and they don't move you off some traps automatically

[scenic garden]

grab one in karamja, drop in wildy, pick it up

[storm wigeon]

Between iron and steel dragons I'm at 9447

[rough elk]

oh for real? thanks 😄

[scenic garden]

or take clue relic and get the tele into the dungeon lol

tho I think they might have disabled that step

[scenic garden]

but dropping and picking it up works

[storm wigeon]

I'm jealous lol

[torpid trench]

Man I struggled so much doing echo amox the first week

getting 15s kc now is nutty

[storm wigeon]

Same!

First few days felt like server delay was the killer. Too many people around

[merry sphinx]

i saw a bunch of guys saying theyre reaching 50 rumours and not having enoug quetzal feed

[storm wigeon]

For all quetz landing sites?

[merry sphinx]

yeah

its basically impossible to not have enough feed if you do 50 rumours

[storm wigeon]

Hmm... I had enough on mine, but I also had woodsman, don't remember if that effects the drops for feed

[torpid trench]

11s echo amox

[merry sphinx]

doesnt but you get so many dupes

verity gives you a bag for every dupe

[storm wigeon]

Yeah. Just traded in all those dupes lol

[torpid trench]

what is pity rate for echo amox?

[strange jacinth]

thorns is such a good addition to early mage when your accuracy is shit

you just perma heal on cast and they slowly kill themselves even if you never hit lol

[white marsh]

Is accuracy just always shit in the main game when running these late game bosses? Even with a bunch of these accuracy nodes in leagues theres a ton a misses 💀

[storm wigeon]

60 I think

[storm wigeon]

Agreed. Seems like accuracy isn't as boosted as it seems. So many misses and 0s its like "HOW"

[torpid trench]

Halfway there in just this inventory, not so bad

[strange jacinth]

am thankful i got spooned on the tecpatl after slogging through 50 normal amox

echo was like 50% faster

[torpid trench]

im getting 15-25s echo amox kills, so its pretty chill

[merry sphinx]

whats the best way to run thammarom scepter? does it retain powered staff boosts if u switch it to autocast?

[storm wigeon]

First account took 15 for orb and 44 for tec. Second account took 40 for orb and 60 for tec... Was so mad

[gloomy coral]

Can we get the pearl bolts (e) to work with water pacts?

[storm wigeon]

No. Run it however you are built

[strange jacinth]

accursed sceptre the most cracked anti pk wep this league

[merry sphinx]

I have the skull of vetion too

need the crafting lvl to make the staff

no tiran is sad on this account

[torpid trench]

god damn it, 9 kills in a row with the unique jingle, all reg amox drops

[still gyro]

is Flask of Fervour a good choice even if i have Eternal Sustenance? trying to decide on t8 relic ☺️ axe sounds fun but would only be useful @ megascales + tob maybe

[strange jacinth]

pendant of ates

[torpid trench]

axe criminally bad pick

flask just funny for explosions

[merry sphinx]

clears negative debuffs and hits 70s 3 times

[still gyro]

is minion better for sustained Damage then?

[strange jacinth]

flask seemed like the pick for kings barrage since you hit so much damage

[merry sphinx]

minion is better for afking

[strange jacinth]

def going minion on the thorns mage this time

[torpid trench]

At this rate, i wont even see the drop when i get it

[still gyro]

ahh ok yeah i saw ppl using that- my current build is full air+water spells and -1tick bows

[strange jacinth]

theres no way you guys play like that

[still gyro]

thanks for the advice prolyl gonna go minion ☺️

[still gyro]

press alt twice

it will remvoe all ground item Text

[scenic garden]

or hold alt and press the - to hide items

[torpid trench]

45kc

[storm wigeon]

I AM SO MAD! Got the 1/2000 silver ore RDT drop...

Should have been my visage

[strange jacinth]

did you know you can also just left or right click the name to hide/highlight

[torpid trench]

deserved for using the boaty method

[storm wigeon]

Boaty method?

[scenic garden]

didn't know about rclick, but knew left click highlighted

[torpid trench]

Didnt boaty go insanely dry at iron/steels?

[storm wigeon]

Yeah. It's the only dragons I have access to that drop visage lol

[torpid trench]

Use boaty tech, get boaty luck

[storm wigeon]

How is it boaty tech? XD

[storm wigeon]

I know my wilderness account is just gonna afk at kbd for a visage

[strange jacinth]

up to 2500 artio

[torpid trench]

Not a bad little half hour at mox

Now I should have everything I need for a deep delve

Am I better off going full thorns at Doom, or should I wear some more magic bonuses?

[lone quiver]

I just pray melee and stay in melee distance for doom

[old tapir]

oh well there's dragon https://i.imgur.com/aA1kYkU.png

i just wanted to make soul runes

[long trail]

@spring cipher i have a question

[spring cipher]

yao

[long trail]

would u consider axe being able to do the verzik skip more valuable or flask to hit nilo waves on maiden

hmt

[peak crypt]

They should really make thermy's ranged attacks green and not red. I actually died a few times early on seeing red and swapping to melee prayer lol. As soon as I read that that's a ranged attack, this fight turned super easy. No problem at all

[spring cipher]

flask to hit nylo u only need 1 axer

but if someone has ancients somehow

then u can axe

if no freezer flask is nicer