leagues-general

[torpid trench]

Enjoy

[shrewd ermine]

tbh I could skip it actually

i only need 4 for all the tasks and kand has 2

i assume shadowflame is better than the trident of the swamp ive been using?

doesnt fire as fast but shoots twice (2nd being lesser) and has better overall stats

[torpid trench]

Depends on your demonic pacts

[shrewd ermine]

well I have the 1t powered staff but I have water tree maxed out

[torpid trench]

Do you also have the faster spellcasting node?

[shrewd ermine]

for non powered? yeah

[torpid trench]

Then yeah its probably better than 1t swamp

if not, then its still cozier

[shrewd ermine]

my pact setup atm: https://tools.runescape.wiki/demonic-pacts/?n=1-100-101-112-113-114-122-133-134-135-136-139-140-141-145-146-44-45-46-53-56-60-68-69-71-74-84-92-93-94-96-97-99

my next move is to probably increase my accuracy

so claiming these two here

[scenic garden]

trident is a powered staff (fires a built-in spell, needs charges, cannot autocast from spellbooks)
quadrant is an autocast staff (no built-in spell, in this case can autocast from any spellbook)

[torpid trench]

Why did you skip the overheal node in the water tree?

that overheal is huge

[scenic garden]

the overheal is necessary for water spell damage scaling

[torpid trench]

You want all the overheal to benefit from this

But also,

[shrewd ermine]

I see, i assumed it capped at 20%

[scenic garden]

nope

[shrewd ermine]

ah interesting

[scenic garden]

that's an example

[torpid trench]

It is a bit misleading, thats not an unfair misunderstanding

[lime sable]

Does Vardorvis drop Leviathans shit?

[torpid trench]

but thats just to give you a baseline to work off

[scenic garden]

he drops the axe piece

[shrewd ermine]

that's fair. I think im going to finish my gauntlet tasks and then probably respect and adjust a bit

[torpid trench]

All the DT2 bosses drop all pieces of the SRA instead of just their unique pieces, but otherwise, no

[lime sable]

Gotcha thank you

[shrewd ermine]

I do think my accuracy should be improved considerably I imagine

for vardorvis

[torpid trench]

Acc also very important

[scenic garden]

finally got on a roll where I'm only dying 3/4 of the time to echo hunllef

[torpid trench]

kinda just vibe on if you feel like you need to hit more or if you are hitting often and want to hit higher

but ultimately youll get both

[shrewd ermine]

what ill probably do for respec is maybe skip or lessen on the prayer pen

[next dust]

337 hydra kc

[shrewd ermine]

because once I do demonics and gauntlet I really only care about doom

idk if ToB has prayers

[next dust]

can someone ping amoderator to help me LOL

jk

[scenic garden]

make sure you finish the grind that benefit from prayer pen before you spec out of it

[next dust]

dont do that

im TRYING

[shrewd ermine]

right thats what I mean

[next dust]

but i CANNOT get my pledge to buy the prayer pen

[shrewd ermine]

I need 300 gauntlet and 500 gorillas still and ballistas

[torpid trench]

I dont think tob benefits from the pray pen, no

[scenic garden]

demonic gorillas, echo thermy, gauntlet, helps at doom

alot of those grubs have prayers

[next dust]

finally!

338 kc

[scenic garden]

and they heal the boss if you don't kill them

[torpid trench]

I was just blasting him despite them tbh

[scenic garden]

but I noticed that they seem to give you a 1t attack on them with a melee (crush?) weapon

[shrewd ermine]

right

[torpid trench]

I did up to delve 8, died before getting the deep delve sadly

[scenic garden]

so take the echo boppers with you for doom

[next dust]

no dragon knives, L

[shrewd ermine]

tbf I dont need to respect. not like ive done anything stupid with my current build

[torpid trench]

and I had no demonbane to reset his blasts nor did I have melee or range weapons/pray pen

[scenic garden]

I died on floor 7 on one run then dipped on my first floor 8 cause I had ayak in the box

[torn lynx]

Echo amox weapon

[torpid trench]

No uniques yet, but I want conf badly

[remote cove]

gz, me next pls gajex

[scenic garden]

echo boppers are demonbane btw

[torpid trench]

i know it is, I just didnt take them because

[kind crest]

there a world for nightmare mass?

[remote cove]

idkw but I just hate hydra

[shrewd ermine]

tbh I think I could do almost all of these atp. slightly worried about awakened vardorvis though

[torpid trench]

I did just fine without, and im not going for floor 15 or anything. Ill get to 8, then probably fly through some 4s or 6s chasing conf

[dull oriole]

how do i deal with tentacles at sire without ancients or the pact to make earth do shadow

[scenic garden]

I just tried phosani's nightmare and it's rough, even with water thorns

[torn lynx]

Deal damage to sire, it stuns him

[dull oriole]

oh lmao, thanks not using my brain

[torn lynx]

Any damage works after enough of it, shadow just does it instantly

[shrewd ermine]

I see, I'll read up on that one to be sure. do you need to do regular nightmare to do phosani?

[dull oriole]

thanks

[torpid trench]

pretty sure its 50dmg per stun at sire

[kind crest]

is there a mass nightmare world?

[torpid trench]

Try 666, seems to be the unofficial mass world

[fickle thistle]

No but the game warns you that you should have a nightmare kill before trying but doesn’t stop you

[torpid trench]

but i doubt it

[shrewd ermine]

I see, I assume nightmare scales with # of players?

[scenic garden]

the video I watched said it wants you to do one, but I didn't know how to try (using the nightmare pool opposite the siren) so Idk if I needed a kil no normal to do phosansi

ye

phosani is solo only tho

[torn lynx]

^ it's also faster, at the cost of hitting much harder

[shrewd ermine]

I see. is ToB pretty easy to solo?

[scenic garden]

yea, it can hit up to 80s off prayer

no lol

[torn lynx]

Likely the hardest raid to solo, but doable in leagues

[shrewd ermine]

yeah ik its miserable to solo in main game

[past birch]

It's not hard in leagues. A problem you might encounter is the nylo room

[scenic garden]

nylo room requires 3 styles to solo

[past birch]

Other than that the rest is "easy"

[shrewd ermine]

what's the most common size? 3 people?

[torn lynx]

Not sure why you would want to solo it though, hmt is 100% purple for everyone

[scenic garden]

or the guardian wand

[past birch]

4 is the most common size

Although in leagues it's 5

[shrewd ermine]

ah I thought rewards diminished with more people

[torn lynx]

For regular yes, but hard mode gives everyone a chest

[shrewd ermine]

ah ok

[past birch]

You don't wanna solo any raid in leagues

[torpid trench]

its a leagues specific thing

[shrewd ermine]

alrighty

[past birch]

I just notices I asked one of your regions but it's literally in your name

[shrewd ermine]

yeah :v

[lone quiver]

I havent done tob in groups, solo is pretty ez. You'll need the lithic staff with 1 tick to trivialize nylo

[shrewd ermine]

i didnt want to say anything xd

[past birch]

:'V

You're mean

[bronze tangle]

I can do mahogany homes contracts in hosidius, but I'm assuming you can only get rewards if you have Asgarnia?

[shrewd ermine]

i was trying to be nice

[past birch]

There's a mahogany homes person in every place I think

That gives rewards

I'm pretty sure

[shrewd ermine]

there's one in kandarin for sure (ardongue)

[bronze tangle]

Hmm - bloke in Hosidus doesn't have an option for rewards

(i've got w/z/d)

[harsh oyster]

is the uhhhhh the other echo thermo drop worth it

the thingy thing. the offhand thing

[vapid silo]

yea you can do MHomes for XP but no rewards

[shrewd ermine]

it's not for my build

cause thorns doesnt work. but it's good for elemental weak stuff

[bronze tangle]

Fair enough, that's what I figured

[harsh oyster]

i also have thorns so i have no idea if its worth it in like any context vs just using thorns

[scenic garden]

if you're planning to do a mage build without thorns, sure

[pure karma]

are mhomes points boosted?

[vapid silo]

yes

[harsh oyster]

i feel like itd maybe be good in niche contexts

[past birch]

x8 points

[pure karma]

maybe i should do those for points

[shrewd ermine]

barrows brows, zulrah, and nylos have elemental weaknesses

[harsh oyster]

ill decide if i wanna bother once i actually get the kandarin echo orb and kandarin unlocked period

[scenic garden]

I don't see a reward option on the lady in ardougne but I also haven't completed my first order

[pure karma]

wow those suck

[scenic garden]

so idk if you need to actually do one for it to show

[vapid silo]

can only get rewards in Asgarnia

[bronze tangle]

according to the wiki only Amy gives rewards

[past birch]

Full carpenter takes a while, although you can unlock the saw and the bag for low points

[bronze tangle]

and you only get tasks if you have Asg I think?

[scenic garden]

that's dumb

[pure karma]

im in asg

[vapid silo]

it's how it is in maingame

[past birch]

Yeah I recommend plank sack and amy saw, and skip full carpenter

[scenic garden]

you can get tasks elsewhere but this effectively makes the points useless

[past birch]

Until you really need those points

[pure karma]

im whispered out

how fast can i kill this thing with a better build?

[bronze tangle]

Yeah, that's ok, just wasn't sure if it was better xp/hr than poh stuff - not sure if I cbf with the elemental balances thing

[past birch]

My pb is 1:04 with max range + tbow

[past birch]

It's never better xp/h

Than regular construction

But it's better xp per plank

[pure karma]

just do demonic thrones

[past birch]

I mean if you have the gp sure

Not everyone has it

[bronze tangle]

don't you need 99 for that?

[harsh oyster]

gp matters in leagues?

[bronze tangle]

i'm just trying to get to 99

[pure karma]

abundance havers stay winning

[past birch]

You do unless you have abundance

[torpid trench]

Any good ways of getting big lumps of smithing XP, like quest rewards or lamps, attached to kand/mory?

[bronze tangle]

yeah none abundance taker

[past birch]

I trained 89 to 99 with thrones

[pure karma]

but yes its 99

[past birch]

Was mega fast

[pure karma]

butler

[torpid trench]

Butler is not attached to a region

[harsh oyster]

Sins of the Father rewards 15k xp x6 in a skill of your choice before boosts

[torpid trench]

oooou

now thats what im talkin about

[harsh oyster]

so thats like uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh 240k x 6

[torpid trench]

[harsh oyster]

at tier 7 anyways

[torpid trench]

Yeah im T7

[harsh oyster]

yeah thats a free(ish) 1.4mil xp for smithing

[torpid trench]

Mining iron is like 1M/h, but I just want my 90 smithing over with

[harsh oyster]

i was gonna do that before i hit reload and just specced into endless harvest and stood at a rock with hotfoot boots for an hour

[torpid trench]

Thats what Im doing now, except I have nothing to entertain me for 2h while I mine

[bronze tangle]

is it better xp/hr to mine iron rather than runite with EH/HF?

(for smithing & mining)

[torpid trench]

yes

[harsh oyster]

then yeah just run sins of the father and put all of the books into smithing

[torn lynx]

I'm afk mining for 50m right now, pretty free with endless + hotfoot

[harsh oyster]

be aware though you can put that book into ANY skill ANY number of times, so

[torpid trench]

Theres no other skills im really concerned about

[harsh oyster]

then yeah thatll shoot you real high

[torpid trench]

im not intending to max, or even try

[vapid silo]

meanwhile my smithing is way oversolved like 3 different ways

[harsh oyster]

Plus Sins of the Father is just cool

[torpid trench]

How do we source the ivandis flail? I didnt get one from league tutor?

[harsh oyster]

ivandis flail you have to make yourself

you can get the parts from the basement in the thingy thing

[vapid silo]

you can buy it during quest

[harsh oyster]

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhh the place. outside darkemyer. i forgot

[tacit oyster]

make yourself or use the sickle version until graveyard

[vapid silo]

from one of the myreques

[torpid trench]

Now thats what im talkin about

Spend money to solve problems

[harsh oyster]

its just like main!

[vapid silo]

from this guy https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Vertida_Sefalatis

[harsh oyster]

be forewarned its a somewhat long quest

but it definitely ticks the entertaining checkbox

and instant free 1.4mil xp in a single skill is probably PRETTY funny number go up factor

[lone quiver]

sins of the father is a good quest to finish, unlocks darkmeyer and free xp

[vapid silo]

shit ton of tasks require you to do it

[harsh oyster]

yea theres a bunch of shit in darkmeyer

[bronze tangle]

is pyramid plunder sceptre boosted?

[vapid silo]

should be

[harsh oyster]

i still havent done sins of the father here cause im lazy but i really should for blood fury

[vapid silo]

yeah it's boosted
https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Demonic_Pacts_League/Areas/Kharidian_Desert#Notable_drops

[cloud basin]

Realistically how would I spent 40 combat points with a blindbag build if I have Wilderness Asgarnia Desert? I don't have a halberd. My weapons can be strong but are 2h so thorns is ass no?

Going full bbc build but want to set myself up for some fun towards the last 2 weeks or so

[torpid trench]

is there an easy way to get to the meirditch hideout to buy the flail?

[vapid silo]

I am like 90% sure that you can buy it from him when he's at the graveyard, which is when you'd need it anyway

cause i feel like that's what I did, if I remember right...

[torpid trench]

ah lol. Ive just navigated Meiditch by memory I do not recommend

[vapid silo]

ok yeah I remember right, it has that dialogue option

[torpid trench]

questhelper is saying i need one before graveyard, to protect ivan during the temple treck

[bronze tangle]

how tf are you meant to change prayer fast enough for awakened leviathan 😵‍💫

[torpid trench]

Practice

[tacit oyster]

you an use the blessed sickle to do the temple track protection

[torpid trench]

Ah... thats a problem

Im at that part now, and dont have one

[tacit oyster]

but you have to go pick it up from crate in the hideout

[torpid trench]

It wouldnt let me into the hideout

It said "Its not safe for me to be here now, I need to leave" when I got there

I think im actually softlocked???

Ive been to both hideouts. Nothing in burg de rott, and i cant enter the meirditch one to get a weapon to kill the vampyres during the trek

Perdu my beloved

[tacit oyster]

ah so ranged echo fix for zcb spec not activating it is telling players special attacks cannot activate echoes from ammo regen

then why is my acb spec activating ranged echoes

[torpid trench]

"we dont even know why its broken, so we will make some shit up"

[minor swan]

so transumte isn't supposed to work while smithing? Does anyone know if it works with fishing and woodcutting now?

[torpid trench]

wait another system update??

whatd they break

[tacit oyster]

Bones are now automatically sent to your bank alongside your other Hunter loot when checking hunter traps with the Woodsman relic active.

woodsman buff with transmute

The Rabbit Cave in Tirannwn is now instanced in Leagues worlds. The rabbit will spawn immediately upon entry, making it easier to obtain the Crystal Grail and complete the task to equip it.

Gl everyone cannot exit to reset aggro anymore

have to 1v1 the rabbit in deathmatch

[pure karma]

finally the minion is fixed

[harsh oyster]

another free reset makes me tempted to try out a ranged build but idk how viable ranged is without kbd

[granite timber]

gee golly jimmy

another reset

[white marsh]

redwood hiking staves don't fletch all at the same time 💀

[granite timber]

at this point they should just give infinite resets

[harsh oyster]

resets should be more plentiful in general i still dont know what they were thinking barring whatever excuse they gave in the other blogpost

[white marsh]

also they don't seem to be giving bonus xp either 😭

[granite timber]

what you need bonus xp for?

[white marsh]

wdym? that's a feature of leagues, XP multipliers

[chrome sand]

How much xp are you getting per staff?

[white marsh]

168

[chrome sand]

Yeah that's normal

Redwood staves are only 10.5xp base

[white marsh]

oh, well that's gross compared to magic bows

but redwood is worth more overall using for vale totems so

[chrome sand]

I think that's the intent, yeah

[white marsh]

should still be fletching all at once though, according to the relic

[scenic garden]

should be making redwood shields for max fletching xp

if you're going that route

[white marsh]

soon

1 more trip with staves and I'll hit 92

[harsh oyster]

is iron supposed to fail like a third of the time because thats awful if so

[scenic garden]

50% of the time

unless you wear a ring of forging

or use superheat ore

[torpid trench]

my guy just discovered the purpose of ruby rings

[cosmic isle]

Best runecrafting xp for soul harvest fragments is ourania altar right?

[harsh oyster]

i actually dont think ive ever smelted iron before

[lone quiver]

I did soul altar

[scenic garden]

finally I'll have woodsman banking my bones from hunter wheneve they send that update

should that be later today?

[white marsh]

28 minutes

[scenic garden]

oh I see the timer now lol

[granite timber]

fire pact tree is the real G this leagues

clearing tob spider room

a couple minutes faster

[tacit oyster]

at least blindbag users no longer have to drop dramen staff if they use fairy rings

[shrewd ermine]

Flask of Fervour now properly blocks certain damage in its invulnerability phase. Upon using the Flask:
Status effects such as bleed, poison and venom will now get cleared.
Pact nodes that consume overhealed hitpoints will now take the immunity into account.
All PvP damage will be negated.

ngl I would've probably gone flask if I knew this

[granite timber]

i love how

flask still has affect in pvp

[tacit oyster]

flask removes all negative effects and restores everything to max, including sanity at whisperer

[granite timber]

does flask cure my crippling depression?

[tacit oyster]

its funny how lithic sceptre stacks were considered debuffs before this update

[shrewd ermine]

idk if flask will still heal stat debuffs though

[tacit oyster]

it wont restore stats i guess

[shrewd ermine]

doesnt seem like it

[torpid trench]

Wait if immunity counts as infinite overheal as implied by the patch notes, does that mean water magic gets a huge buff when flasked?

[shrewd ermine]

doubt it lol. mage thorns is already super strong

[tacit oyster]

it blocks damage taken from stuff that consumes overheal, like fire mage or melee pact

[torpid trench]

Indeed

[granite timber]

its ok

next leagues

bigger pact tree

dream big

bigger then PoE

[potent quail]

bro, i jsut got my visage drop at 3277 kc

but my clog shows 2 Visages,

what happend?
at 3250 kills i got my first Visage drop BUT MISSED IT AND IT DESPAWNED

and i only realized it after checking the clog for my second visage, imagine i wouldnt have gotten a second one and realized the first on despawned

learning: be very sure you have notifications well setup for afk grinds

[torpid trench]

Bro went almost as dry as me

[potent quail]

but again stupid luck saved me

also 3.2k isnt that bad, not even x2 dry

(ignoring the insane double drop)

[white marsh]

easy fat half a mil + fletching xp you've got sitting there 👀

if you looted those jav tips anyway 😂

[potent quail]

i did loot some of them

but yeah most of that is GONE

[potent quail]

uff

wait i got almost as many dragon tips as you

[torpid trench]

Yeah but I got 2 dfh

[potent quail]

ah your thing combines the bars

22 ancient page clogs is nice though

also rune sq shield
1:8000

yeah only picked up 315 dragon tips

[torpid trench]

Thats my full log

[potent quail]

still could crack 24 chewed bonesXD

also i put both key halves as valuable drop

so nice to be able to get atleast some during this grind

[torpid trench]

I ignored everything except the 2 uniques

[potent quail]

you got T?

[torpid trench]

T?

[potent quail]

region elves

[torpid trench]

God no

[potent quail]

never can pronounce the full name

ah ok then you dont need the keys
is task to get 1 piece of dragonstone armor

[bronze sphinx]

Free pact reset, lets gooo

[torpid trench]

Id rather grind my teeth to dust using billard balls than do CG on leagues

[potent quail]

to be fair
echo hun is SO much faster and a fun boss

had 1.5 minute kills

[torpid trench]

To be fair, stubbing my toe in the dark is so much better than falling down the stairs. Id really just not experiece either

[drowsy moat]

Anyone know if the serp helm give thorns damage a chance to poison? The thought alone is funny enough for me to go for it if possible

[merry sphinx]

glitch at blue moon? it went into the spec where it turns the braziers off but they didnt go off and it kept ticking 16 damage

[potent quail]

i enjoyed it even though i got dry on the armor seeds

[torpid trench]

With all due respect my friend, seek therapy

[bronze sphinx]

Did they say when the reset will be available?

[potent quail]

thats 5 hours and i was very much in the vibe

literally spawn in
kill boss

btw no weapon swap because 75% prayer pen

[next dust]

enough tasks at once?

[timber quest]

Lmao niceee

[potent quail]

goddamit

need to be punched 50 more times with the shield equipped

back to miths it is

[torpid trench]

wait isnt it specifically being hit by dragonfire?

[chilly pine]

it says in the blog post you get it when opening the interface

[torpid trench]

If so, iron/steels might be better, since their default is to use fire at range, where miths use a mix of all styles + fire

[potent quail]

still 4 clogs at mith with ancient pages

[bronze sphinx]

It didnt work, hence me asking 😄

[potent quail]

so yeah it is faster, but amybe i get lucky and snathc 1 more clog

[chilly pine]

update is in 2 minutes

[potent quail]

The Dramen Staff no longer counts as a Blindbag weapon.
also big

[tacit oyster]

extra reset is after update

[potent quail]

Thorns no longer prevent completion of Combat Achievements that require only magic damage.
also big
The Abyssal Tentacle is now being affected by regeneration nodes, allowing it to save charges.
noice

[bronze sphinx]

Oh im blind LOL thanks

[potent quail]

Cooking in the Gauntlet and Corrupted Gauntlet is no longer slower with the Flow State relic active.
lol
Using the Bake Pie spell now correctly counts toward all “bake pie” tasks.
lets goooo not doing the task payed off

During the orb phase of the Doom of Mokhaiotl, striking a volatile earth with double-hitting weapons (such as Infernal Tecpatl or Shadowflame Quadrant) will no longer cause the orb to spawn and despawn. Note that this change affects both the main and Leagues worlds.
also nice

[misty sigil]

how long is the game down for?

[minor swan]

Hopefully long enough for them to fix transmte 🙂 ... they didn't say

[scarlet crypt]

What's wrong with transmute?

[minor swan]

it doesnt work while fishing or woodcutting among other things

[tacit oyster]

10-20seconds, restarting client required

i think transmute works if you chop trees you grow yourself

[potent quail]

if its not in the patch notes it isnt fixed

also rip

World 581 will be removed from Leagues VI.
best world

[chrome sand]

This is unlikely to be fixed this league, if ever

[tight thorn]

When do I get to complain about trident drop luck?

[potent quail]

jo wtf, fish spot gone

ah it spawned

[tight thorn]

It'll come back

[chrome sand]

It only disappears after server restarts

[tight thorn]

These spots are techincally bugged, but they've been bugged for so many years Jagex aren't going to fix them

They are not supposed to be static 😄

[potent quail]

lol

now its iconic

[frigid halo]

is the 25 million prayer xp task bugged? i just got 25m but task didn't pop up

[timber quest]

Did you try opening all the menus?

[tight thorn]

Bury a regular bone.

Just murder a man, take his bones, and bury them.

[timber quest]

Murder a 2nd man, as a treat

[torpid trench]

Murder a 3rd man, because never leave a witness

[frigid halo]

didn't work :c

[tight thorn]

huh.

[chrome sand]

Recharge your prayer

Then get some prayer xp

[tight thorn]

Complaining works!

[frigid halo]

tysm 😄

[tight thorn]

Oh dang, trident can't autocast spellbook spells?

[weary shadow]

Powered Staff

[tight thorn]

Fuck me... What weapon can I use for 3tick spellbook?

[torpid trench]

Quadrant

[tight thorn]

That's the echo thermy one? I was hoping I get something better than a mystic staff before that

[torpid trench]

Not likely

I used the mist staff until i got quad

[tight thorn]

What armour?

[torpid trench]

mystic

[tight thorn]

😮

[pure karma]

oh wow that was so easy WHEN THE MINION WORKS

[tight thorn]

Really?! Mystic robes and a mist staff for echo thermy? What pacts?

[torpid trench]

watermagic and thorns, i dont have a copy of my build when i did it so i dont know exactly how many

[tight thorn]

Had you managed to get to thorns back then, do you remember? I'm quite a few nodes off of thorns still...

[covert wolf]

ok more extra pact

came a little bit late

[torpid trench]

Im positive I had at least the basic thorns node, plus maybe the shield reflect one as well. Not 100% sure on the armor affects dmg tho

[dawn tulip]

Whats the best 3 areas for thorns tank build? I only plan for Water for healing only

[tight thorn]

Yeah, I'm pathing the other way, I guess

[torpid trench]

Kand and Mory cover all gear slots for watermagic/thorns

[dawn tulip]

Should I do Morytania Kandarin then what

[tight thorn]

Tyranwn is popular, crystal armour and the blessing are good with thorns

[dawn tulip]

Zeah or Tir which is better hmm

[fluid fable]

Chat do we trust the calc on this one?

3 has infernal tecpactl on blind bag

Whips too light to blind bag

Like, sure whips the better weapon but its hard to imagine my barrage of tecpactle basically b claw specs doesnt make up for iy

[granite timber]

i finally cooked in inferno

love me fire pact

[potent quail]

900 defence bonuses!!
only 2 upgrades missing and i am at bis pstaff thorns

[crisp plover]

Does anyone know if this one stacks with the king's barrage?

Whenever you max hit from at least 3 tiles away, your next hit from a different style deals +25% damage.

[tacit oyster]

whip is light waepon so it has no blindbag

[weary shadow]

hotfoot doing work 😛

[fluid fable]

Hot foot is bis tank

[potent quail]

XD listen

there is just nothing worthwhil between nothing and echo boots

[fluid fable]

Read it again, my problem is that it makes no sussy lvls lf for whip to be doing better

[potent quail]

so i take the goddam agi exp

[fluid fable]

😠

U take that back

[[Leather boots]]

[obsidian bluff]

Wiki links found:
https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Leather_boots

[fluid fable]

But also real talk what about avernic treads?

Arnt they 1% magic and also some defence

[potent quail]

didnt do doom yet

[fluid fable]

Er

[potent quail]

also echo boots should be much easier to get

[fluid fable]

Oh thats torms not congs

[potent quail]

congs?

[fluid fable]

I mean, ur gonna be getting confs one way or the other tho

[potent quail]

yeah thats the othe rbig upgrade

[fluid fable]

Surely u send it till they drop, and maybe u have averns by the time u do

[potent quail]

well i did try doom but didnt got past 8 yet

[fluid fable]

That doesnt matter

Dont worry about it

[potent quail]

you are joking right?

[fluid fable]

They can drop at 5+

[torpid trench]

Theres a shortcut

[fluid fable]

And like. Uno. Learning the content u wanna farm makes more sense then detouring for a litterally just worse item

[fluid fable]

Dont do that pls

[torpid trench]

See those two C shaped things in the middle at the top

they link

[fluid fable]

Click black square in between

[potent quail]

why isnt that marked on the mapXD

[fluid fable]

It is

Ite a black square

[potent quail]

[fluid fable]

Ur meant to look at it and be like.. tf is that

[potent quail]

ah yes the famous shortcut symbol

a black square

[fluid fable]

Lmao

Nah but tbf it makes more sense when u actually do the quest

[chilly pine]

maybe vard pet before full virtus / axe

[fluid fable]

U get there and its a blocked off passage

And then the path opens up after u kill vard during the quest

[misty sigil]

barrows set gotta be the worst pact

[rare hollow]

def a lot of rng in there

but unf its an old code with a lot of spaghetti

[tight thorn]

What region is Taverley considered to be in?

[fluid fable]

Barrows fucks with my head

I hate that place

[rare hollow]

taverly is asgarnia

[fluid fable]

And its all coz the fuckers smack u at the doors

[rare hollow]

if you have evil eye barrows is nothing

[tight thorn]

So why am I even getting crystal key drops?!

[misty sigil]

yeah i can't imagine trying to fix and make it more moons like with unique drops

[fluid fable]

Dont put a puzzle door, and a enemy who can interupt u in the same room

[rare hollow]

to unlock the secrets of gagek rng

[fluid fable]

Tf is wrong with u jagex

[misty sigil]

Tir?

[rare hollow]

you have to ask the devs what they were thinking back then lol

[tacit oyster]

anti botting mechanics

[fluid fable]

No its not

How

[rare hollow]

its actually quite suprising how barrows still stays relevant today

[fluid fable]

In what world is it anti botting.

A bot knows what to click insrantly

I wanna actually wanna look at the thing

[rare hollow]

back then bot scripts weren't as advanced

they were simple

only the best ones were paid and few

its just a useless remnant of the past, kind of like your tailbone or your appendix

doesn't serve much function but its there

[tacit oyster]

2005 bots could barely click correct symbol even without the npc attacking

[fluid fable]

Ic

Well still

[rare hollow]

yeah its a really really old boss

[potent quail]

but even then, scripts advanced with each challange and every anti bot matter became pointless after a while

[potent quail]

only becasue of moonsXD

[fluid fable]

Just get rid of them the bots won. Time to let me actually use the door without just wanting to get rl to solve it for me before i fully register what im looking at

[cobalt skiff]

any tips on charging dragonfire shield? (areas are morytania, tiranwyn, asgarnia)

[rare hollow]

nah ahrims stays relevant

karils

dh just for memes n stuff but yeah

verac is niche and guthans is decent at passive healing

torag tho

https://tenor.com/view/oopsies-ohno-gif-25793283

good defenses ig

[tacit oyster]

torag is to annoy players in wilderness by removing their run energy

[rare hollow]

i preferred verac if i needed some defense since he had some good prayer bonus as well

[potent quail]

well now its iconic :b

and the charm of osrs

[fluid fable]

Iconically bad isnt a flex

[potent quail]

just afk at the dragon you got it from

can optimize it but why bother

[rare hollow]

you have to give respect to a piece of content thats still active after 20 years

[cobalt skiff]

im thorns so i kill them xd

[rare hollow]

do you know a similar game mode that has survived 20 years

[potent quail]

well they have to attack you once

[cobalt skiff]

isnt it 50 times?

[rare hollow]

besides theres a ton of jank hidden in barrows

i remember when dharok was max hitting lmao

all the time and gnomonkey lost his hcim to it

[fluid fable]

Theres plenrt of fine and cool things about that place. All i want is to be able to actually use the doors

[rare hollow]

should have taken evil eye nerd

[fluid fable]

Me? I didnt take mory fuck that

[rare hollow]

you talk like youve never done barrows in your life

[fluid fable]

No idont

I talk like i did it and didnt like the door situation

[rare hollow]

christ

do you play this game

[covert wolf]

he came for league only

[rare hollow]

youre like my one friend who has all max gear but cant click pray melee at tekton

[fluid fable]

What are u talkong about

[rare hollow]

oh are u rs3 guy

i know some rs3 players came for leagues only

[fluid fable]

Brother being kicked out of a interface while reading has nothing to do with pvm

[rare hollow]

read faster man

kids back in the day were doing it better

[cobalt skiff]

yo check your ego

cool it

[rare hollow]

sorry its quite large

idk where to put it

[fluid fable]

Its not even ego. Bros flexing nothing. Well done u pretend to enjoy obnoxious shit

[ripe thicket]

was hoping for echos to be changed to work with Ralos in the update, oh well.

[rare hollow]

youre just larping dude

how you gonna get mad at barrows

[fluid fable]

The interface issues

Made that pretty clear, really.

[rare hollow]

and i just said its super old content with a lot of spaghetti

if devs attempted to fix something there, olm explodes or something

dont touch if it aint broke

[fluid fable]

Whats wrong with ralos?

[rare hollow]

nobody likes that weapon anyway

[fluid fable]

Its pretty

Its a pity its not like, good

[pure karma]

how do i speed this up

[balmy shadow]

How do you guys feel about air-water-thorns build?

[rare hollow]

youll need a duo

pray air water thorns

[fluid fable]

Strong

[vapid silo]

good

[rare hollow]

yeah its busted

[balmy shadow]

Auto cast air surge and manual cast water for healing?

[rare hollow]

u dont cast water

just air surge all the time

[vapid silo]

just switching depending on situation

[rare hollow]

and let passive water rune regen

to heal up

[fluid fable]

Ye ur just trying to regen the water runes

[balmy shadow]

How?

[rare hollow]

like remember the node of % regen runes when casting spell

[tacit oyster]

air thorns is worse than pure air since devils element basically doubles air damage

[rare hollow]

if you take the node that says "regen 1 water rune also when casting spell" you gain that benefit

[balmy shadow]

Ohhhhhhh

[tacit oyster]

air surge does not regen water runes

[lone quiver]

regen 1 water is from powered staff

[balmy shadow]

Aha

[rare hollow]

oof youre right

[vapid silo]

^

[lone quiver]

I manually cast water surge when I need to heal

[balmy shadow]

Gotcha, I think it's time to respec into air water thorns

[rare hollow]

i didnt touch spellbook spells this time

just trident/shadow

no kandarin sadly

[tacit oyster]

air water thorns is nice since can use different setups for different content. pure damage with no thorns air mage for single target dps

[vapid silo]

the benefit of air-water-thorns is not to use them at same time (although kinda can do that), but rather to be able to one-shot mobs or go mega damage for bosses when needed with air, and use tanking method for other things

[rare hollow]

what are yall max hits with air/water surging max setup

im seeing 73s on my shadow setup + crystal + confliction per 2t on task

[vapid silo]

depends on innate elemental weakness

73 sounds irght

[balmy shadow]

So equipment wise I shouldn't use a hybrid prayer/tank right

[vapid silo]

• secondary hit

no you swap between full prayer and tank depending on what ur doing

[rare hollow]

havent gotten a chance to test it at cox yet

[covert wolf]

Wonder if I have decent gear for water thorns

I can only think of oathplate

[rare hollow]

what are your regions

[covert wolf]

Zeah wildy desert

[rare hollow]

does toa drop masori f

[tacit oyster]

normal masori from toa, need asgarnia to fortify

[rare hollow]

f lad

so sad

[fluid fable]

Shits pretty damn tanky right?

[rare hollow]

yeah probably oath tbh

[fluid fable]

Is it close to justi?

[rare hollow]

id say in terms of defense its weaker than bandos

torva is probably closer to justi

[fluid fable]

Is it really?

[[Bcp]]

[obsidian bluff]

Wiki links found:
https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Bandos_chestplate

[fluid fable]

[[Oath chest]]

[obsidian bluff]

Wiki links found:
https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Oathplate_chest

[rare hollow]

bandos has some ridiculous ranged defense in there

[fluid fable]

Ye true

I thought oath was a whole different lvl

[vapid silo]

I should see how quick I can get 50M strength in justi in MM2 tunnels

[rare hollow]

more or less the same

they wanted to make oath as something in between bandos/torva

oath has a lot of slash accuracy going for it

in content where u dont reduce def oath can win, if you can reduce def torva can win

[fluid fable]

True

[rare hollow]

thats why most of those maxed players wear torva helm + oath chest and legs

best of both worlds

[fluid fable]

I just rock my little fight torso and hope the enemies roll badly

[rare hollow]

i like fighter torso its pretty solid

[fluid fable]

Its fine for most content ye

Most bosses at least

Slayer the defs a lil more noticeable

[balmy shadow]

I think I had too high expectations of the build

I was expecting to be able to 100% afk content 😒

[fluid fable]

Possibly, but iv seen that thing move. And its pretty cracked

Do u have solid gear?

[next dust]

i DESPISE this CA cause theres just the RNG chance the tornados forc e you to walk near him

[balmy shadow]

Justi/DFS/avernics

[next dust]

did they break minion? he seems inconsistent in CG rn

[covert wolf]

I just want that one water throns that can chill through colo cause I'm so trash on that

Especially when my ping isn't at good condition atm

but first i should tryout inferno

[long trail]

how tf to get ectophial / ghostspeak

[tacit oyster]

complete medium diary

[vapid silo]

p sure they autocompleted the diary task that requires u to use ectophial

[surreal kiln]

he doesnt melee you if you WALK by him on CG mode

[next dust]

thats why i lost it once

[surreal kiln]

only trample if he is = Due an attack

[next dust]

idk what that means

[surreal kiln]

if hunleff attacks you and you step after his attack under, no trample

but you shouldnt try walking under him anyways

🤣

[next dust]

somletimes the floor and wind force you hah

[surreal kiln]

no, not really

[vapid silo]

not really

[next dust]

sometimes it does

[surreal kiln]

you must be standing in wrong place if that is happening

[next dust]

depends on wher ehe and the floor spawn

[vapid silo]

you only realistically need couple tiles to evade tornadoes

[next dust]

this CA must be so much more annoying with powered staffs lol

to perfectly stop attacking

[tacit oyster]

i dont think there is any time where you are forced to run under hunleff unless you run at edges behind hunleff and the edges of floor turn into lava

[surreal kiln]

his pray change auto stops your auto attack

[vapid silo]

it automatically stops attacking when he switches prayers

[next dust]

?

did not for me before

that a new update

[surreal kiln]

turn off autoretaliate

[tacit oyster]

1tick might be too fast to register then prayer change

[vapid silo]

I think with the 1t more attacks do go through than should

[surreal kiln]

his prayer changes at start of your attack

[vapid silo]

but they don't fail it

[surreal kiln]

you have to click to fail it

[vapid silo]

like I think you can fire off 2 extra projectiles before the one that causes him to switch prayer lands

or something

[surreal kiln]

if the projectile is in the air

it doesnt fail

[vapid silo]

ye still deals normal damage and everything

[surreal kiln]

failure is triggered by you clicking after he changes

[next dust]

?

i wenty down. went right.

then floor spawned

cant go anywhere

[surreal kiln]

why is he at wall

thats your fail

[next dust]

cause thats where he started??

[surreal kiln]

then run across room

[next dust]

WHat

[surreal kiln]

bait him

[next dust]

???

[surreal kiln]

!!!!

[next dust]

i dont watch twitch

[surreal kiln]

neither do I

[next dust]

idk what content youre talking about hah

thats too much messing around??

[surreal kiln]

this

drag your ass across the room opposite to him

to bait him into moving off the wall

[next dust]

whats that going to accomplish?

he just attacks from there?

[surreal kiln]

you'll see

[next dust]

can they just make prayer pen work for that CA lol

[tacit oyster]

hunleff position doesnt really matter if you corner yourself

[next dust]

well the floor spawned

and the FIRST tornado spawn was 4

[surreal kiln]

doesnt really matter anything of that

you didnt bait him away from the wall

and then proceed to complaining getting trampled while running under him by the wall 🤣

[versed root]

minion or axe?

[tacit oyster]

it is hard to do perfect hunleff before you are comfortable with movement in the fight

[versed root]

i feel like with how strong we are the axe is redundant no? someone make an argument for it bc i kinda want it but unsure

[next dust]

ive never seen him bother move

[tacit oyster]

axe only really useful in large group raids

[next dust]

from wherre he is

if im not underneath him making him move

that baiting sounds like just messing around for nothing too

and asking to get mercd

[surreal kiln]

see this?

you drag him off the wall by standing on he opposite

[pure karma]

how do i get 58k?

[tacit oyster]

very fast clear, high point modifiers and/or some 0 damage taken waves

[surreal kiln]

Faster and take big point modifiers early

0 dmg waves are negligible

the speed is very big and big modifiers

[tacit oyster]

extra 1k points per wave is not negligible

[chilly pine]

it tells you the glory per wave when hovering the modifiers

pick the 250 ones

[surreal kiln]

I mean you are right

[tacit oyster]

but in most cases you gain more glory by rushing instead of slowly doing no damage taken

[surreal kiln]

exactly, but yeah you need to pick horrible modifiers with max points as early as possible

that really does a lot

[chilly bane]

im tired of doing Zulrrah. 25% of my league time has been doing this one boss for a stupid task

[next dust]

ok i definitely did it that time and dont know why it didnt count

[reef quarry]

whats the best bluetooth hally 1t staff planner look like

[next dust]

yh idk how to do that CA on CG

[misty sigil]

it's 15s kills bro

[chilly bane]

yeah if you alreayd have 40 demonic pacts lol

[next dust]

idk what its counting. i didnt touch a floor, i didnt touch a tornado

i even stepped after every attack

[misty sigil]

try 21

[chilly bane]

im killing it with a willow shortbow

[next dust]

L

[tacit oyster]

you can enable failure notification in ingame settings, to see when you fail

[crystal kelp]

Do something else

[chilly bane]

i mean i have to do it at some point D:

yeah another visage

can i trade in like 10 other uniques ffor a fang lol

[pure karma]

why are all these water mages in public corps

if you can afk it, go to private

[chilly bane]

there should be a pity on these league events. Every boss is taking me at least 50 times actual DR to get the unique.

Moons took me 400 kills to get my first drop

[chilly pine]

how

[chilly bane]

RNG

Zulrah probaly going to take me about 10,000 kills to get fang

[tacit oyster]

i really doubt you have done 400kc on moons in league

[chilly pine]

killing moons with willow shortbow too?

[chilly bane]

Hueycotal took me 800 for a hide

[mighty zodiac]

dw dw you'll get it on kill 59

[chilly pine]

nobody did 800 kills lol

[chilly bane]

im already 3 times past that

[mighty zodiac]

nah i'm referencing by release lol

[chilly pine]

what server you playing on

[chilly bane]

I might not be on there because i didn't damage it enough with my willow short bow

[mighty zodiac]

:D

[opaque kiln]

https://tenor.com/view/higuruma-hiromi-higaruma-sigh-facepalm-bored-gif-10260848180658587712

[tacit oyster]

maybe he was part of 800 mass kills but did no damage so he did not get kc or loot from even 1 kill

[weary shadow]

For all 800 failed kills?

[chilly bane]

im being hyperbolic, but I have been extrmeely unlucky with drops this league

im actually worse luck than norrmal DR despire rarirty multiplier

[weary shadow]

No reason to be hyperbolic to the point that Pinoccio is having doubts 😛

[tight thorn]

Okay, help me out, what do I reload into? Transmute, or Soul Harvest? 🤔

[weary shadow]

But they could do with more drop protections for important things

[chilly pine]

soul harvest if you want 50 mill runecrafting

[chilly bane]

where do you find that leadboard though. I am curious if i have the highest KC on Zulrah this league

[tight thorn]

And if I just want 99 RC?

[harsh oyster]

maybe ill give water/air mage a shot with that free reset....

[chilly pine]

you'll need to lamp everything on rc and still runecraft normally beyond 94

[tight thorn]

Is it that bad?

[tacit oyster]

you havent even done the zulrah kc tasks yet, so probably not even close to the top

[tight thorn]

Also, can't I transmute into rune essence?

[weary shadow]

https://secure.runescape.com/m=hiscore_oldschool_seasonal/overall?category_type=1&table=88#headerHiscores

[next dust]

yh i def need some coaching on that perfect hunlief CA

idk what im doing wrong

[chilly pine]

once you selected Leagues under Seasonal, you can click any boss or skill for leagues specific hiscores

top 25 zulrah requires 977 kc

[chilly bane]

bro why are peopel killing Zulrah so much lol

they doing it for fun?

[tacit oyster]

they are going for pet

[chilly bane]

oh lol

[chilly pine]

boss pet is a task

[tacit oyster]

pet or jar i guess

[weary shadow]

https://secure.runescape.com/m=hiscore_oldschool_seasonal/overall?category_type=1&table=51&page=1

[chilly bane]

well i bet that have something ebtter than a willow shortbow

[weary shadow]

wait 12,000 KC

That's like 8 days solid good grief

[chilly bane]

im spent about 16 hours farming Zulrah and i only have 180 kills ):

[chilly pine]

with the free reset from today you can switch to 1 tick powered staff build

[chilly bane]

also why does my attack not register on zulrah until like 5 seconds after he emerges

[tacit oyster]

12k kc kree is like 50hours if you teleport out after kill

[weary shadow]

Still wild lol

Apart from bragging rights are there any prizes for being top 25?

[mighty zodiac]

Maybe it's a mistake going both powered staff and water but i guess I'll find out on my first araxxyte task

[tacit oyster]

someone has completed 7.8k beginner clues in league

[weary shadow]

We can do them?

[tacit oyster]

asgarnia and desert have beginner steps

[weary shadow]

Ohh... I thought I tried and I have both

[tacit oyster]

hot and cold solver plugin is bugged in league, desert has one of those steps. seems like asgarnia also has hot and cold beginner step

[chilly bane]

almost 2,000KC still no dart ):

[chilly pine]

very sad times

[chilly bane]

someone with worse luck than me D:

TBH ill probably have higher KC than this when i finally get the drop

[weary shadow]

On leagues?

[rare hollow]

dart?

[chilly pine]

I used bronze throwing darts

[rare hollow]

which dart from zulrah

i dont remember zulrah dropping any darts

[chilly bane]

yep just got more kills by 1 and sitll no fang

[rare hollow]

oh wow no blowpipe

[scenic geode]

As someone who’s main is only CB70, I’m now comfortable enough beating echo hunleff on mobile and I’m proud of myself

[rare hollow]

thats fked

nice

[chilly bane]

honestly they should just make accounts not ironman so someone can just give me the blowpiupe

ok but really, i did just get another unique still not the fang LOL

9 uniques no fang

[chilly pine]

pet before fang

[iron turret]

sorry, new to osrs, how are you displaying these drops and kc? Is it a runelite plugin?

[chilly bane]

nah im just making that up in MSpaint to make it seem like im unlucky

[iron turret]

talented

[chilly bane]

lol

but i think its a default plugin in runelite

its called loot tracker on the sidebar

[chilly pine]

the default client has loot tracker as well if you search for it in your settings

[iron turret]

oh ty

[tacit oyster]

loot tracker is default plugin in runelite, should see it in the bar on right

[iron turret]

i seei t now

i saw the plugin but couldn't figure out how to actually access it lol

[tacit oyster]

but yeah official client and mobile have loot trackers now too

[iron turret]

ty!

[chilly imp]

Anyone else who hasnt done the fight pits task for karamja hard diary? Im looking to trade a win with someone available atm

[lone bloom]

High pop league worlds should have people at fight pits

Try 400 or 666

[iron turret]

should the loot tracker auto track boss drops, i expected my moxy kills to show up in there but it doesn't... though it has all my pickpocketing loot in there lol

oh wait, it might be because i am on a different comp from when i do bossing

[weary shadow]

Collection logs will show some of the rarer ones (but it does get messed up by shared drops)

[chilly bane]

i just realized I had turned off fang from my possibel drops by mistake

[covert wolf]

can i do all these perfect achievements on ToA solo?

[mighty zodiac]

I haven't had an armour upgrade in so long, praying for at least the dragon platelegs drop from araxxor lol

yes i know i could go to barrows

Actually i probably should even, there's a pact point behind getting a full set

[narrow epoch]

Was feeling kinda meh about the respec I did last night to try to min/max DOOM

'Yama has taken kindly to your efforts this league and awards you 1 free pact reset'

Yama, my man!

[tacit oyster]

no, a lot require at least 1 other player. speedruns require teams

[next dust]

soon as im done CG (echo) now for full crystal im gonna respec for Thrown Weapons

do i respec now for powered staff just to make this fast?

then respec again

use the free one from today lol

[mighty zodiac]

So i was wondering, my best in slot defence boots are adamant boots until i can reliably clear colloseum. Since I'm at an araxxyte task and using staff/water thorns is it a good idea to try for aranea boots here

Not sure if it's a task or not

[next dust]

respec to this with my 30 points

get the CG grind done with the powered staff

and then go to thrown weapon once i get it done

[granite timber]

here to complain about lack of ranger drop so that i can get spooned immediatly after

[stoic lance]

you dont need to clear the whole of the colo if that makes it less daunting lol

[narrow epoch]

2 more pacts to unlock... fk it, time to AFK fish a thousand sharks

[stoic lance]

echo boots can drop from like... wave 5 onwards or something right

[granite timber]

yea

they can

[mighty zodiac]

Furthest I've gotten is wave 3 but i didn't have flask then

[granite timber]

i did not getthe ranger boots

[light venture]

u guys know how to get archer icon in leagues? i havent unlocked fremmenik

[austere depot]

Reminds me I should probably knock out the mandatory grouping Nex achievements soon while there's still enough people playing

[austere depot]

The DT2 rings drop completed

[past forge]

big clue scroll day today

[light venture]

so what does that mean exactly

i gotta talk to someone? buy it or smth

[tacit oyster]

finished outplate before i got last contract

[past forge]

wait i just realized

the complainers got what they wanted and we got another pact reset lmfao

[tacit oyster]

do i farm demons for 1hour now to get contract or try yama for dossiers

[austere depot]

The ring will drop instead of the vestige iirc

[past forge]

bc 5 wasnt enough?

[granite timber]

its ok

there will be another next week

[past forge]

hahahah its just weird

like yall need THAT many resets?

[stoic lance]

tbqh i disagree with the stingy resets anyway

[light venture]

respect thanks

[past forge]

how many times can you screw yourself on your build before your actually a bit more careful lol

i dont think they were stingy at all we got like 4 for free?

[stoic lance]

idk diablo doesnt force you to pick a build and stick to it, they charge you large amounts of money for node resets but it's not totally finite

[past forge]

this isnt diablo?

[granite timber]

at this point if jagex put a 0,99$ price tag on pact reset

they'd make cash

[tacit oyster]

total 6 resets now, started with 3 resets max

[stoic lance]

the skill tree is clearly ripping off PoE lol

[past forge]

also this content if you had freedom to reset at will people would just reset for specific encounters which isnt the ways pacts weas intended to be used

[granite timber]

PoH?

ah

[past forge]

think he meant PoE

[granite timber]

poe

[stoic lance]

my bad lmao

[granite timber]

i mean yeah

that was kinda the point no?

[stoic lance]

poe also dont force you to stick to builds afaik

it's a weird choice imo, but this is my first leagues

[past forge]

it doesnt but again this isnt poe

[tacit oyster]

yes, people keep saying they want free respecs to test all the builds. In reality you are locked out of half the builds regardless which regions you choose

[past forge]

you cant apply those ideas to osrs imo

[stoic lance]

i find the limited resets more aggravating than the region locks lol

[granite timber]

thats what im sayin

[past forge]

to me limited is like 2 resets in 6 weks

we're up to like 6 resets now lol

also im saying this as a complete rs noob and i still feel this way

[austere depot]

Yeah I don't think PoE style respecing really works with the fixed region choices too well either

[past forge]

and tbh idc that much it doesnt impact me and it helps others try more builds i justt think its kind of pointless

[stoic lance]

I messed up my build like twice and had to use resets because my dumb brain can't copy nodes from a website onto my account

[austere depot]

I have yet to use a respec, been crossbowing this whole time

[tacit oyster]

it is first skill tree in osrs leagues so they have to be more generous with resets to keep people happy

[austere depot]

Probably gonna have to cheese a few things with thorns later tho

[past forge]

yeah buty you dont think 3 to start was ok and then sure maybe add another for 4 but we're up to like 6 lol

how many times can u fk up ur build

[granite timber]

just make them grind out a reset orb

idk

from some dumb ass echo boss or something

[stoic lance]

i'd be fine with that lol

[past forge]

same but thorns maging

ok off to read the updates !!

[granite timber]

i been doing thorns onehanded

[stoic lance]

if echo bosses had their echo equipment replaced with a reset scroll or something after you got it, that'd be chill

[granite timber]

planning to switch into blindbag soon

[austere depot]

I am tempted to do try bulwark+5 godswords blindbag later because funny

[past forge]

"Abyssal Tentacle is now being affected by regeneration nodes, allowing it to save charges."

pog

[stoic lance]

lol the melee builds have the most soul, they've got some really fun sounding shit

[granite timber]

yeah but

they also require the most setup

[stoic lance]

yeah lol, rip all the people who specced into it really early

[granite timber]

im never gonna pick kandarin again

tired of em cerburus boots

[stoic lance]

i specced into fauxtank on my last reset because i knew it wouldnt be a mistake, it's strong af but I have build-envy when I see some of the blindbag craziness

[next dust]

i have a plugin that shows dialog above the NPCs head

so that means

your PC is the one speaking here not quiz master

just for the first line

[past forge]

im with you i have followed faux tank to this point

[covert wolf]

who made this task

[past forge]

but im trying to be smart about my next choices bc i only have kandarin unlocked atm and just got my reload relic

lmfaooo i did that ln also

I think im going to do MOrytania second and skip Tiran tbh

[rare hollow]

meanwhile 75 elite clues is only 80 points

[stoic lance]

my friend went kourend/kandarin/mory and doesnt feel like he's missing much from tiran

[past forge]

riiiight lol i was gonna stay in kandarin and try and knonck out some clue tasks but idk

[stoic lance]

He's using lithic sceptre iirc

[tacit oyster]

oh right they fixed that task. i spent like 20min trying to do it near launch and it was bugged with larcanist

[rare hollow]

the good thing about tiran is just the gear

[stoic lance]

I went tiran and got the swamp trident but i dont think its necessary? idk lol

[rare hollow]

crystal plus blessing but if you take kandarin you basically dont need it

[past forge]

i have full blue moon atm

and ill need tank gear at barrows

[stoic lance]

I wasted a whole day on CG getting the armor and enh seed, but I fucking love it lol

[rare hollow]

yeah if he has kandarin that trident/crystal setup gets outclassed by stuff like prayair

[past forge]

so idk if i really need to do tiran besides the crystal gear you get the smithing and crafting solve too

[wheat anvil]

whats the drop rate on awakener orb

[stoic lance]

1/15ish i think

[wheat anvil]

hmm ive gotten 1 in 120 kc

[rare hollow]

1/16 it says

oof lmao

[tacit oyster]

divide by 5 for league rate

[rare hollow]

whats your relic tier

[wheat anvil]

max

[toxic vortex]

i've gotten 25 in 208kc

[rare hollow]

damn son you dry

you only get one shot

[toxic vortex]

but basically nothing else

[wheat anvil]

is there something special i have to do

[toxic vortex]

no

[past forge]

someone help me w what to reload to pls

[rare hollow]

no lol

[wheat anvil]

rng is cruel

[stoic lance]

shoulda taken wildy so you can talk to oziach (idk if edgeville is part of it but i had to take the easy joke)

[toxic vortex]

it isnt

you ruined the joke

[stoic lance]

boo

[past forge]

i was gonna do soul harvest but fear its not that worth it

[rare hollow]

edgeville is misthalin

gf

[past forge]

im considering just skipping rc alltogether tbh

[stoic lance]

ive been lampin it

[rare hollow]

you can lamp it and reach 80s

[toxic vortex]

have you already claimed some diary/combat achievements?

[austere depot]

Just gotta lure oziach into the wildy

[stoic lance]

achievement diaries and shit

[toxic vortex]

quests as well

[stoic lance]

karamja achievemnt lamps dont have a level requirement iirc?

[toxic vortex]

I think only the easy one

[surreal kiln]

[stoic lance]

ayy nice

im nowhere near yet lmao

[wheat anvil]

turns out i just had to complain, got a 2nd orb at 121kc