leagues-general

[waxen whale]

can someone explain to me why my shadow barrages aren't causing the leviathan to stop ass blasting me

[static arch]

❤️

[tawdry carbon]

gzzzz

[scenic garden]

wait, chompy kills are multiplied?

[livid slate]

Yep

[scenic garden]

I was done this 8 birds ago...

[toxic vortex]

I need to set aside a chunk of time for diaries

[grand fable]

i what point does kings barrage heal?

[scenic garden]

https://tenor.com/view/do-it-what-are-you-waiting-for-determined-angry-gif-5247874

[scenic garden]

probly when you get thorns heal. unless there's some mechanic of the crossbow that heals. I don't think there are any healing nodes in the range tree tho.

at least I assume it abuses thorns like everything else

oh wait that's 2h isn't it

[grand fable]

yeah its 2h i thought it might but maybe not

[scenic garden]

rip then

[grand fable]

swear ive seen videos of people healing with it but maybe im a silly goose

[young osprey]

4500 barronite shards no hammer
why is this thing not boosted again

[pure karma]

did you talk to the dwarf at the door?

[scenic garden]

have you tried just getting the drop?

[young osprey]

yes, ramaro is in his workshop

[pure karma]

did you buy the boost?

[toxic vortex]

No his real problem is he can't talk to oziach this league

[young osprey]

ooh I have enough barronite for that now, good shout

[toxic vortex]

at least im chopping trees in style

[copper skiff]

u get a pact for killing the 6 jads correct?

[toxic vortex]

no

[copper skiff]

[tough finch]

You need the water capstone plus ice counts as water.

[scenic garden]

think it's 3 jads then 18 jads

[copper skiff]

18 jads?

r we dead ass

[toxic vortex]

its the 3 jads and then whatever is in the special leagues challenge

[copper skiff]

how do i get to the special leagues challenge

[tough finch]

The special leagues challenge. Its 6 jads but with extra inferno mobs sprinkled in

[grand fable]

ah okay i see now tyvm

[tough finch]

Mf you keep saying wildly incorrect shit

[copper skiff]

i gotta beat the 6

i assume

to unlock it

[dim crystal]

anyone know if there's a way to fix the clue plugin for hot/cold clues? It seems like it saying the leagues tutor effs with it

[tough finch]

First unlock it, then it will be the 8th challenge he offers.

[young osprey]

instant unique after activating camdoozal luck buff
its not hammer but still

[tough finch]

Yep

[copper skiff]

oof

i barely did 5

idk if i can do 6 🙏

[livid slate]

6 is just 5 but one more

You got this

Trust

[tough finch]

Believe in yourself

[lone quiver]

pb rn is 9/18 for me

[tough finch]

It took me a while. It was like my 37th pact.

[copper skiff]

i got my infero cape i can do this too

💪

[tough finch]

Yep, just get the timing down and have a way to pull healers if you can't outdps them. I am water fire so I kind of had the ability to cheese it a bit with so much healing then easy aoe from manual casting. But my tip would be to focus on the cycle, I'd hit the one that starts the cycle first and focus on him. Then you have a couple ticks every time it finished and circles back to him to do whatever you need to do like equip chins etc

I started to feel the real rhythm of the attacks after wiping it up a bit

[smoky raft]

just hit double rate for a draconic visage

feels bad

[copper skiff]

yea i got it down to 4

and i fcked it up

[hazy anvil]

Are you splashing?

[waxen whale]

I don't think so, leviathan stuns, i run around back, and he just keeps blasting

[hazy anvil]

If you attack him he wakes up, if I remember correctly? So maybe wait until you're fully behind him? Tough to say without seeing what's going on

[static arch]

Felt good to come back and delete this guy.

[hazy anvil]

When you say blasting, you mean he's attacking at full speed again?

[waxen whale]

yeah

[waxen whale]

this is probably what's happening

[near magnet]

tips for pumping smith from 64 to 72, i dont have Tiran

[shrewd ermine]

[scenic garden]

wait wdym I'm not done with chompy tasks 😭

[hazy anvil]

What regions/relics do you have?

[scenic garden]

tirannwn wouldn't have helped you there anyways lol

need 70 and an armour seed to start crystal singing

[near magnet]

eh/forager/evil/transmute/larcenist/culling/eternal - kandarin/mory

[hazy anvil]

Achievement Diary lamps -> Manual smithing

[near solstice]

Bruh 250 delves and 20 deep delves and 0 on my collection log for doom

[near magnet]

ok ty i have some mithril and steel bars ill useup and then knock out some dieries

[hazy anvil]

I used minion to AFK Steel Dragons for a bit while I worked but you have flask, so can't speak to that.

[scenic garden]

have you been claiming? I feel like that shouldn't happen

[near solstice]

I’ve been checking every wave

My RNG has been bad. Took 193 gauntlet to get my enhanced too

Well plus 6 regular corrupted as well

[placid creek]

"complete the corrupted gauntlet 100 times" do Echo gauntlets count?

[near solstice]

Yes

[placid creek]

Oh thank god

I was doing maths and was not looking forward to 12+ hours of CG grind

[near solstice]

Yeah echo is really quick

[placid creek]

I think I'll wait for 100% prayer pen

[little wraith]

yeah echo could be as short as 2 minutes but the regular CG only took ~3 minutes on average so I opted to do regular for the 100kc that's with 75% prayer pen

[past birch]

Who wants to run TOA?

[near solstice]

Yes

[little wraith]

I still to do the quest to unlock TOA, was busy getting the quiver

[past birch]

Yeah complete it

And we send it

[jovial tiger]

I did all the fun tasks... Now I'm left with quests and 25/35/50m in skills I don't have relic solves for...

[young osprey]

...they should lock CoX behind AKD.

[hazy anvil]

I did it with 75% and it was fine.

Are dragon javelin tips from red dragons bugged? I've killed 240 and not received one drop.

[long trail]

just went over droprate, how long till y'all got your shards?

[slim eagle]

what are the league rates for drop rate trying to get black mask

[hazy anvil]

1.7k and I got 3 b2b2b

[long trail]

1/102 or some thing similar to that

[slim eagle]

gotcha thank you

[long trail]

damn that's fucking awesome man

[young osprey]

regions?

[slim eagle]

sorry for the bother just tryna get more pacts and then finish off my sins of the father but honestly im stuck or feel stuck

[hazy anvil]

Asg/Wild/Kourend

[long trail]

stuck on what i just finished that quest maybe i can help

[young osprey]

dragon javelin tips don't drop unless you have MM2 completed, which needs Kand.

[slim eagle]

im having issues with the final boss fight of sins of the father right before you turn in quest

but im not strong enough

[long trail]

ah like combat wise

[slim eagle]

gear probably too weak

[long trail]

what's your stats looking like + what pacts are you in

[hazy anvil]

How would I be able to complete the 100 javelin task without it? Vardorvis drops them as well, or at least his loot table, but is it just bugged?

[slim eagle]

can i send in dm cant send screenshots here

[young osprey]

vanstrom klause is the most difficult quest boss that's not forgotten four. everyone struggles with him.

[placid creek]

I really expected this blood fury thing to be more potent

[long trail]

yes go for it

[long trail]

damn guy you spoke my b2b into existence almost immediately too lol

this is awesome

[hazy anvil]

😉

[toxic vortex]

@late helm

[young osprey]

has to be from vard. not bugged, just an oversight that they're quite difficult to get without Kand. Should be a Kand task not a global one imo

[formal gulch]

Do I need ranged for BA in leagues?

[pure karma]

are gargoyles the easiest thing to afk for 75 superiors?

i dont have culling

[hazy anvil]

Depending on regions and level, but yes. That's what I did on my 2nd account

[pure karma]

i have wildy mory and asg

[placid creek]

I can't decide what to pick for my last region. Blindbag double hitting ranged proccer, Mory and Tir so far

[pure karma]

kan so you can go water mage and afk everything

[placid creek]

Nahh, I don't wanna reroll

[spring cipher]

damn it takes forever

to bless the quiver

150k sunfire?? smh

[toxic vortex]

if you don't want to go kand for mage access, asg probably for godswords

[thorn marsh]

How actually factually do you do 6 jads..? I'm praying as soon as the animation starts, and it's still late, but there's not any way I can pray before the animation since I don't know what to pray yet..

Or am I praying too early by doing that and swapping to the next one before the damage locks in from the last..?

[past birch]

I think they just copy&paste last year task, where we had echo sol to farm splinters

[placid creek]

god swords are fewer ranged procs compared to double hits tho

[covert night]

is there any other way to imbue in leagues?

i dont have dessert

soul wars

or nightmare zone

[dire tree]

I mean a full colo clear is 5 min or less, so it's really not that bad of a girind

[spring cipher]

yea ugh

[brittle echo]

Do I actually need 8 people for tombs ca league task?

[kind cairn]

If i do a duo partner Yama contract do we BOTH get the loot?

[short cave]

are scaly dhide drop rates boosted or nah?

[past birch]

Well echo used to be 30 seconds lol

10x longer grind

[past birch]

Contract player gets the contract reward+rare items, non contract player only opts for rares

[hazy anvil]

How are people posting pics in here? Is there something I need to do to get approval? I can't seem to paste photos/screenshots in this chat.

[quiet spindle]

anyone happen to know roughly how bad/long the grind is to get a manta ray at fishing trawler? (never done it) cuz i've never had a reason to

[hazy anvil]

Wiki has you at above 70% change at level 80 fishing or higher

[scenic garden]

you need to chat til you get your rank up enough

[hazy anvil]

Which rank can post pics?

[scenic garden]

#old-school message

that's pinned if you forget

did they break chopping down trees with EH again?

[hazy anvil]

Haven't had any issues - which trees? Self planted?

[scenic garden]

yea. trying to knock down the one in gnome stronghold so I can replant and protect it for a task

but I've been chopping for over 20 mins

and I don't want to pay to remove it and lose the magic roots

[smoky raft]

honestly that's just how magic trees are

[scenic garden]

finaly

tho I know I protected one before so idk why that task wasn't cleared

[thorn marsh]

I just cannot fucking do the Special Jad Challege.. ;_;

I'm nowhere near good enough at this shit..

Best I've managed so far is one Jad dead..

[languid belfry]

Gonna send a ToA before bed

who was it that wanted to duo/trio again?

[languid belfry]

Keep trying at it. If you're water + thorns and can't keep up with the flicking

follow this rule instead.

[thorn marsh]

I'm Trident+Thorns..

[languid belfry]

"If 4+ jads do the same prayer, flick to that prayer instead"

....

go get your shadowflame

trident requires you to actually flick

lol

[languid belfry]

because you're not sustaining to live, you are abusing tick heal death queue clears to survive

lmao

[thorn marsh]

I have two resets, and I'm pretty sure I'm locked in to Mage for the rest of the League..

[languid belfry]

yes.

You can still do it

youi just need to get Shadowflame Quadrant

from Kandarin

lol

Do you have all the important thorns nodes?

[thorn marsh]

Is it viable to spec for both Trident and Water at the same time..? I think I miss a few Accuracy nodes by picking up the four pacts to get to the Water capstone and the 3t staff casting, but I have 35 pact points already, so I can get most of everything..

This is my current pacts..

[tawdry carbon]

bro

how did auemex do 1500+ vards

im falling asleep at 70

[languid belfry]

https://tools.runescape.wiki/demonic-pacts/?n=1-100-112-113-114-122-133-135-136-139-140-141-145-146-44-46-53-56-59-68-71-74-81-84-93-96-97-99

[thorn marsh]

If I respec'd, I'd lose +75% accuracy and +5 Defense Levels from moving the nodes down in the Ranged tree up to take the Water stuff, plus one more somewhere..

[quiet spindle]

are we not getting tasks auto completed this league for diaries we don't have access to?

[languid belfry]

This is what I had when I did 6 jads.

you're fine

you literally just need one point into combat spells

for shadowflame quadrant

1 tick trident is useful for picking off adds

in some content

You can probably get more accuracy than what I had because it WAS kind of miserable splashing on jads

occasionally

[thorn marsh]

So going up to 35 points, something like this..? https://tools.runescape.wiki/demonic-pacts/?n=1-100-101-112-113-114-122-133-134-135-136-139-140-141-145-146-166-44-45-46-53-55-56-59-60-68-71-74-81-84-87-93-96-97-99

[languid belfry]

drop the air rune node for staffs

that node is bad

'-'

[thorn marsh]

Oof..

[languid belfry]

Like to give you an idea of how bad

at 115% regen

you are regenerating on average...0.1725 Prayer

per tick.

You are better off chucking it into 50% accuracy

[thorn marsh]

Yea, probs I regen more just from the pact to give me two prayer back whenevs I get hit for 0..

[languid belfry]

exactly.

Fuck that node.

Air node base is good because water surge/air surge regens 7+ air runes at once

bringing you closer to 0.85 prayer per cast

1 air rune per shot is uh

"This is worthless"

50% accuracy will take you further than that lmao

[thorn marsh]

Actual question is do I take +5 Defense down in the Ranged tree to get one node away from a +50% accuracy, or do I just take the +25% accuracy that I'm already adjacent to at the cost of needing two more pacts to get to that +50% one later..?

[languid belfry]

https://tools.runescape.wiki/demonic-pacts/?n=1-100-101-112-113-114-122-133-134-135-136-139-140-141-145-146-44-45-46-53-55-56-58-59-6-60-62-64-68-71-74-81-84-87-9-93-96-97-99

[signal summit]

20min into killing rabbit in priff, over 70% done.
Someone just logs in under me, somehow gets one smack on it. Log out and leaves me with a dead loot kill.

10/10 Task Jagex

[languid belfry]

I would try something like this.

[thorn marsh]

That's 4 more pact points than I have..

[languid belfry]

No as

your endgoal

[thorn marsh]

Ah..

[languid belfry]

if you want to science

you can see if thorns counts as a max hit

for the uh, node that makes your next attack do 25% more damage per max hit

or just take regeneration node for safety

Actually let me throw that into the FAQ

[thorn marsh]

Probs I'd have to lose the four nodes down toward the Max Accuracy Roll pact.. I still have some Hunleff achievements left to do, and I don't want to miss any prayer penetration in the meantime.. -_-

At least until I can eventually attempt to get to 39 points..

[languid belfry]

Yeah

https://tools.runescape.wiki/demonic-pacts/?n=1-100-101-112-113-114-122-133-134-135-136-139-140-141-145-146-44-45-46-53-55-56-58-59-60-68-71-74-81-84-87-93-96-97-99

This is what I'd respec into if you're at 35 already

to make jads easier

[thorn marsh]

Yea, that's what I was thinking..

And also I have Shadowflame.. Just haven't been using it because I haven't run into an issue where 1t Trident couldn't heal my way through everything yet..

[languid belfry]

Yeah well

welcome to jad

I'd keep the 1t trident anyway

[thorn marsh]

Awakened Vardorvis and Special Jads are defo a reason to respec into full Water Thorns, though..

[languid belfry]

becasue it is really good for flexible

content

but uh

[thorn marsh]

I'm so fucking bad at Awakened Vard movement..

[languid belfry]

then don't do it

lol

you can cap pact points

[thorn marsh]

But it's worth points.. ;_;

[languid belfry]

without doing any awakened

you can also get Dragon without

lol

https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Demonic_Pacts_League/Demonic_Pacts

Go here

[thorn marsh]

Oh, right, they added four pact points.. I forgor..

[languid belfry]

l;ook at what you can do

screenshot it

figure out what you don't want to do

[thorn marsh]

There's 44 pact tasks now..

I was still thinking there was only 40..

[languid belfry]

https://i.gyazo.com/4b1a0ed751d5fae7e5a2435616588e3b.png

Like for me? I'm probably doing either: Avernic Treads, Masori, or Theater of Blood for my last 2 points.

Could I do phosani's nightmare- yeah but fuck doing that boss on pure mage LMAO

[thorn marsh]

These are my remaining pact tasks..

[languid belfry]

Inferno is free and even easier than 6 jad on water + thorns.

So is colosseum

you can fail every sol mechanic and still win, just take blasphemy and never take frailty, relentless, bees, or doom.

And you win

*Just pray protect from mage the entire time.

[thorn marsh]

ToB is easy enough.. Jads, Colo, and Inferno are solved by the respec, and I've never tried Doom or Pnightmare, but I can probs learn them..

[languid belfry]

Uh

do not do P nightmare in water + thorns

unless you know how to melee her

I spent 3 hours hammering my head against it

[thorn marsh]

I do not.. ;_;

Oof..

[languid belfry]

only to get to final phase and to be unable to damage her

because she has 900 fucking magic defense

absolutely not

doom is easy

deep delve is free, just remember on level 8+ you actually have to pray the correct prayer after the car dash

otherwise still free.

So doom + avernic treads are probably also doable for you

that should solve your points no?

-wait you have amulet of blood fury as an option still?

That's BiS on thorns

why has that not been finished?

[thorn marsh]

I don't have Larcenist.. ;_;

[languid belfry]

.....

Guess you're afking vyres

do sins of the father and go do your jail time

[thorn marsh]

I'm aware it was probs a bad decision to not Reload for it, but it's whatevs..

[hazy anvil]

Release me from my prison Zilyana. I want a crossbow!

[languid belfry]

You're trapped in there till Saradomin notices her

[thorn marsh]

Too late to change that now, and Flow has saved me a lot of AFK time..

[languid belfry]

the good news is thorns kind of destroys vyres?

...oh.

yeah

go do your jail time in Darkmeyer lmao

It's a 1/300 drop

you can afk it reasonably enough

[thorn marsh]

I don't even have SotF done yet..

[languid belfry]

with thorns. I don't think sentinels can even kill you

yeah before you respec

[thorn marsh]

I've been busy doing other shit..

[languid belfry]

go

do SotF

lol

it's fat exp anyway

anyway sending my ToA run

[thorn marsh]

Going straight into Thieving..

[hazy anvil]

I believe in you..

[languid belfry]

I've soloed it already last night pretty carefree

should be fine

[hazy anvil]

I gotta do 25 CoX. I do NOT like this raid at all

[languid belfry]

CoX is the worst raid

[past forge]

first zenny 102 kc!

[languid belfry]

I'm so happy for you. Looks at 412 kc for first one

[past forge]

i need to get my crafting up now lol

[hazy anvil]

Double so if you're ranged. I feel useless for 3/4 the raid

[thorn marsh]

How does dps compare for Water Surge 3t Quadrant compared to 1t Toxic Trident..?

[formal gulch]

Imo toxic trident out-dps 3t staff.

But less sustain.

And can’t get kills if you keep dying.

[thorn marsh]

Truth..

[formal gulch]

I tried Phosani’s Nightmare with 1t staff and it was worse than 3t water thorns.

Specifically because I suck.

If you’re a Gamer™ then I’m pretty sure Bluetooth halberds are your best dps or something.

[thorn marsh]

I'm not respeccing into Melee at this point, even though I have the Nox Hally by now..

[gentle rune]

Did anybody say cox

[hazy anvil]

Me unfortunately.

[languid belfry]

trident is probably better damage on stuff you can hit

[gentle rune]

I want a twisted bow so bad

[languid belfry]

but the point of water is to just camp your tank armor and use thorns to deal damage

also I DCed on Akka's special

thanks verizon

Guess I do my run tomorrow

[thorn marsh]

Water Thorns uses Justi armor, right..?

[hazy anvil]

Any tank armor

[thorn marsh]

Guess I'll wear Guthans, then..

[winged sinew]

Dharok

or ahrims

is good

[hazy anvil]

Guthans is good enough imo if you don't have other armor.

[thorn marsh]

Don't have a full Dharok set.. ;_;

[chilly bane]

where's my DB. my luck is unreal

[thorn marsh]

I've got full sets for Guthan, Torag, and Karil..

Need to finish my Barrows grind at some point..

[chilly bane]

a few days ago i went .0094 lowest percentile on moons befforer finalyl getting a drop. its gonna be the same here isnt it lol

[hazy anvil]

Kill 417 you will get it.

[winged sinew]

ahrims does lower your defence a bit but you will be able toi hit enemies like zuk with mage but using armour like dharok will deal more damage against weaker enemies

[chilly bane]

nah you cant make this shit up lol

[winged sinew]

torag has high defence too

[hazy anvil]

HAHAHAHA

[chilly bane]

XD

[hazy anvil]

GG man yyou're free.

[shrewd ermine]

[chilly bane]

ty RNJesus

[shrewd ermine]

it only took me 111 barrows runs for me to finally have a full set

[winged sinew]

only? you are lucky

[hazy anvil]

That's actually decent for a full set.

[shrewd ermine]

[shrewd ermine]

yeah, i feel like my luck was okay

good bit of diversity

[winged sinew]

142 for me

[thorn marsh]

I have so much luck..

[winged sinew]

142 for a full set :/

[thorn marsh]

Three full sets before even 60 chests opened..

[hazy anvil]

38% of Asgarnia takers got Armadyl Xbow. I thought it would be an easy task. I was misled.

[smoky raft]

I'm sorry but I have to ask

you are trying to get it from Zilyana, right

despite being the armadyl crossbow it drops from the saradomin boss (for lore reasons)

[hazy anvil]

Yes.

[smoky raft]

ok

I hope you understand I only ask because I have witnessed such foolishness before

[hazy anvil]

I'm at 165 KC and have 4 hilts, 11 swords, but no bows lol.

What are people doing for RC without relics? I was running nature runes via Fairy Ring to CKR, but it was 160k/h.
Asg/Wild/Kourend

[scenic garden]

how have 13% of league players completed this?

[winged sinew]

not using thorns

using thorns makes it impossible

[scenic garden]

I have my shield off and my ring

[smoky raft]

Asgarnia? Kill royal titans, target farming pages. You get a shit load of RC xp from charging the pages

[scenic garden]

I can spec twice with echo boppers OR 3x with chally and those do a max 30% of its health

[hazy anvil]

Good call - I can pretty much 2 shot them with BBC

[formal gulch]

I’d like to think that Commander Zilyana dropping the Armadyl crossbow was unintended and Jagex just made up lore to make it work, but I wouldn’t be surprised if it was intentional.

[smoky raft]

it's something like 600 kills total for 1-99 RC

[scenic garden]

then I have to survive long enough to regen the energy for another 4-6 specs to finish the job, but sustain relies on my thorns or water spells, and the smaller smoke devils don't respawn

[winged sinew]

this is pretty easy to do

imo

[scenic garden]

how

[winged sinew]

eternal sustenance

just turn off auto retaliate

and eat

[scenic garden]

I have it off

Iauto-retaliate is off

ring is off

shield is off

[formal gulch]

Isn’t the issue the spec regen?

[scenic garden]

yes

[formal gulch]

And you can’t even pool either.

[scenic garden]

and there is no way to refill it aside from one potion that can only be used every 5 mins for 25% energy

and idk if I can even make that

[formal gulch]

Time to make some spec regen potions.

[smoky raft]

you can just. Wait

[winged sinew]

get spec build

[scenic garden]

I've tried waiting, I die

[formal gulch]

Waiting is for losers!!

[smoky raft]

honestly the "don't get hit, forehead" task seems harder

[winged sinew]

i did that one on accident

[scenic garden]

and that node that gives 2 hp and 2 prayer when you get hit with a 0 only procs if I have my shield on

[formal gulch]

By accident*

[winged sinew]

yea, i wasn't trying and i got it

[smoky raft]

there are non-shield offhands that give that effect

[cursive glacier]

It works with any offhand

[formal gulch]

Time to take the devil’s element.

Or antler guard but that would be dumb.

[cursive glacier]

You can also do stuff like crossbow build and ballista spec and get lucky i suppose

[formal gulch]

Also antler guard is such a misnomer.

It does the opposite of guarding.

[torpid trench]

To be a bit more helpful at tob as a waterthorns, would I be better off grabbing fire effects for the nylo room, or full sending acc bonuses?

[formal gulch]

Good question.

I dunno.

I went in there in full Dharoks and felt it was a waste of time.

‘Cuz you don’t wanna get hit by anything.

And thorns don’t really help.

And the defense bonus still feels like paper… in normal TOB.

Go full accuracy.

[hazy anvil]

I wouldn't adjust your build just for ToB tbh

[torpid trench]

Currently I bring a whip alongside my barrows tank gear for maiden and bloat. After nylo, I hit pretty consistently with my water surges on the remaining 3 bosses.

Thorns has carried a few verzik that Ive been in, which is hilarious

[hazy anvil]

most people won't notice or care.

[formal gulch]

Use full crystal.

[torpid trench]

Imagine taking tir

[formal gulch]

Or maybe sunlight fanatic?

[torpid trench]

Has the same defence as full rune

[formal gulch]

Oh.

[torpid trench]

I actually got full sunfire going for my.echo boots

[formal gulch]

I did Sol first try and then died every other attempt.

[torpid trench]

I wouldnt be adjusting, just focusing one before the other as I get a few more pts

[hazy anvil]

I haven't even got to Sol yet with ranged build 🙁 Frustrating.

[torpid trench]

Havent even attempted Sol yet, waiting until I get my DFS

[formal gulch]

So how many Sunfire splinters do you need to bless the quiver…?

[torpid trench]

Too many

Youre gonna be doin lots of runs

[hazy anvil]

150k?

[formal gulch]

150k.

That’s a lot.

[torpid trench]

150k

Just get more quivers and trade em in

[formal gulch]

Each quiver is only worth 4k sunfires.

I think.

[hazy anvil]

How else do you plan on getting a good amount of shards lol? I think that's the fastest way.

[formal gulch]

Also infernal cape looks infinitely better than puny quiver.

[torpid trench]

Quiver is 4k on top of whatever you get during your full run

[formal gulch]

Me when my Sol Heredit K:D ratio is 1:5

[torpid trench]

Lmao

My sol ration on main game is 0:278 or so

[spring cipher]

it is a tough boss

[torpid trench]

Ive made about 10 attempts, but got sidetracked by making a group iron and then leagues, so I never finished

[formal gulch]

Too tough some would say.

[torpid trench]

Super fun tho

Nah

[cursive glacier]

Thankfully water thorns trivializes the fight

[formal gulch]

I even tried to Sol Heredit sim in BIS gear and I could never get close.

[cursive glacier]

I can just stand there and even if i never hit i dont die as long as i move off the glowy tiles

[torpid trench]

Its important for games to have difficult endgame content.

[torpid trench]

Keep simmimg then. Dont even bother with runs until youve got him down

Well, maingame runs

In leagues you can just brute force him

[hazy anvil]

It's crazy how different this game is without plugins.

[torpid trench]

Wdym? There is no game without plugins

RuneLite singlehandedly makes or breaks every player experience

I genuinely dont think osrs would have survived this long without it

[short cave]

why cant i speak to master hunter? am level 93 hunter and have no contract. he just says "sorry i cant speak right now"

ah i see

at first light needs to be completed

[torpid trench]

Yeah hes questlocked

[spring cipher]

if jagex doesnt have runelite

we might not have such a big playerbase

you remember when we used to have that other client

osbuddy

[hazy anvil]

SwitftKit was my client WAY back

probably why I was hacked

[torpid trench]

Lmao I havent heard or thought of osbuddy in ages

[spring cipher]

yea its been that long

and then there was the other client that kept pushing boundaries

[versed root]

is there a leagues specific change that makes zulrah scales available anywhere else?

[young osprey]

nope

[scenic garden]

done those CAs. not sure why it says it was a 7s fight

[hazy anvil]

Just to confirm, drop rates are 5x at max t ier?

[young osprey]

yes

[dusky coral]

why would you need zulrah scale anywhere else if you don't have tirannwn unlocked anyway

[young osprey]

ornate rejuv pool

[dusky coral]

ahhh

[scenic garden]

it maxes out at 5x at t4

[hazy anvil]

Going dry is super unfun in a temp game-mode lol. 3h at Zilly and no bow, I think I'll just log off for the evening. Depressing. First I can't seem to get DHL and now this. Asgarnia tied to so much drop RNG

[scenic garden]

also, it's not all drops, only "eligible" ones
https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Demonic_Pacts_League/Boosted_drops

[young osprey]

imcando hammer just straight up isn't boosted despite being a 1/300

[scenic garden]

but all the gwd drops should be boosted afaik

[hazy anvil]

It is; I just keep rolling fucking hilts instead of bows lol.

[young osprey]

and funnily enough because of no misthalin everything else in the barronite drop pool is worthless

[pure karma]

i got 3 hilts before my bow

its annoying

[young osprey]

time to spec into blindbag with all those godswords

[hazy anvil]

I have 3 respecs saved, want to put together another build at end of season once I've got dragon on this account

Might try some Cerb Dagger build out if I can muster up something.

[scenic garden]

yeah, I've only used one re-roll so far to go into water thorns cause starting blindbag had me hard locked at 9 points. gonna get some gear together to swap back into it later tho to try it out.

[hazy anvil]

Not looking forward to farming Torva from Nex though.

[pure karma]

if you can survive, solo nex is very fast

for drops

[hazy anvil]

I've got BBC and Full Void. Shouldn't be terrible, no?

[pure karma]

nope

[versed root]

rejuv pool, vorkath

and curiosity tbh

i noticed i was getting like ancient staff and scepter drops so i knew some stuff was changed to accomodate

[smoky raft]

?

I don't think either of those were added to anything

Like the scepter upgrade gems were changed to drop as complete scepters but that's in line with the regional upgrade system

same reason Zulrah drops a Toxic Trident. The fang it normally drops does nothing on its own

[hazy anvil]

Are there any 25 minute AFK combat training methods?

[pure karma]

vampires

[ancient wolf]

anyone got any tips for echo hunlef? finally got the orb to drop and I'm trying to do him rn with the water mage/thorns build - sadly no shield so

[hazy anvil]

Asg/Wild/Kourend

[pure karma]

do you have dfs?

[hazy anvil]

No sir.

[pure karma]

go to the wilderness slayer cave and kill black dragons

not a full 25 but it can still be afkd and the best place for dfs

[hazy anvil]

Won't I just... die?

[pure karma]

not if you use antifire

[hazy anvil]

Antifire runs out after 5 mins, no?

[pure karma]

the shield

perdu should sell them, or the slayer masters

dont remember which

[hazy anvil]

the shield only protects some antifire. You'd still die after time d/t no healing?

[pure karma]

probably then

i assumed you had some healing pacts

[hazy anvil]

Not for melee; I'm BBC build with 1 tick staves

[pure karma]

could afk fight caves for the 10 completions

[peak crypt]

flask of fervor or minion? Can't decide. Should specify that I'm bad at bossing so flask seems like it'd save me a lot

[hazy anvil]

Flask is the play if you're bad imo

[peak crypt]

Auto pick up and sustained damage does sound nice though. But that flask sounds like a get out of jail card. Plus some nice aoe damage

[hazy anvil]

Do you have skills that can utilize the auto pickup that need trained?

that aren't covered by your relics

[peak crypt]

what do you mean by "that need trained"?

Ohhhh I gotcha. Yeah it would honestly also come in handy. Didn't take any of those relics

[hazy anvil]

Which skills are you struggling to level?

[peak crypt]

I'm lamping rc and have to do agility. Didn't take hotfoot. Mining is gonna suck. And fishing too

[hazy anvil]

Did you go barb gathering or EH?

[peak crypt]

Neither unfortunately

[hazy anvil]

Ahh ok. Well mining can somewhat be AFK-ed by shooting stars. Not great, not terrible. RC can be somewhat solved by sulphurous essence albeit it will take forever. Minion won't really help you in any of the skills you listed tbh

[young osprey]

regions?

[hazy anvil]

Does anyone happen to know fishing exp @ karambwans?

per hour

[peak crypt]

Wildy, Kandarin, and Tirannwn. Wishing I hadn't taken Wildy though. Its nice, but wish I grabbed Asgarnia instead

[versed root]

yea but my point was some things were changed thats all im not tryin to split hairs i was just curious thats all

[young osprey]

29k - 44k per hour depending on fishing level before multipliers

[young osprey]

oh yeah mining and rc are ouch with those regions

asg would fix both of those problems lmao

[smoky raft]

and my point was that those changes had a reason that doesn't apply to zulrah scales

[little hare]

Best way to find crystal impling?

[versed root]

ok man just curious was all

[peak crypt]

Yeah I haven't made but like 1 rune for a diary so far lol. Otherwise I've lamped rc all the way to 70 so far

[hazy anvil]

xx:00 and xx:30 reset world hop north west section of Priff

[smoky raft]

Yeah... that's why I gave an answer and explained it?

[little hare]

Sweet will try that in 8 minutes

[versed root]

i can get venom in other regions so i was asking about antivenom thats it lol

[young osprey]

antivenom is from tira and mory only

[smoky raft]

[versed root]

and frem

[smoky raft]

whatever man

[young osprey]

where in frem?

[versed root]

vork

[young osprey]

...I don't see it.

[versed root]

vorkath doesnt cause venom?

[young osprey]

oh yeah vork can venom you but I was talking about places you can get anti-venoms

[peak crypt]

so flask it is i guess

[versed root]

i was thats why i asked about zul scales

[hazy anvil]

[young osprey]

I mean you can always double dose antipoisions

that's p much always an option

[versed root]

yea i was but itd be nice to one sip

[fluid fable]

Huh?

Whats that mean

[rare hollow]

you want antivenom?

just eat purple fruit

[fluid fable]

Yeh i got eternal sus and a strange fruit

[young osprey]

sip antipoison downgrade venom to poison
sip antipoison again get rid of poison

[fluid fable]

Kinda goated for poisons

[fluid fable]

Ic

[young osprey]

okay eternal sustenance taker

[rare hollow]

who said i took that noob relic

larceny all the way

[fluid fable]

I took eternal sus coz i didnt wanna deal with saras/super restores

And the benefits ever since just keep stacking u0

[rare hollow]

oh wow u dont get a lot of access to purple fruit huh

[fluid fable]

No fishing

God i am so in love with sus

Genuinely least of all is the infninite healing in 2 slots

[fluid fable]

I got mine from the plant

Not sure if it was a total coincindence or what, but i got it about 10 mins after taking sus

[rare hollow]

realistically if you have evil eye and get venomed

[fluid fable]

The random event

[rare hollow]

just tele to fortis colo, enter, leave it'll reset everything like ferox pool

then tele back to vorkath

oh i need to remember to keep 1 herb for the jekyll event

[fluid fable]

Nothing like a quick mid fight tele to remove venom

[rare hollow]

always pops up when i have to herb

[rare hollow]

me for 70kc zulrah straight

good thing i got serp helm first

[fluid fable]

Genuine question

Tf are u doing at vork

Like, why?

Just slayer

[rare hollow]

you have to ask him why he chose fremmenik

not the vorkath

[fluid fable]

Whose him

[rare hollow]

but also probably for visage

its 1/1k at vork vs 1/2k typically with the mobs dragons

[fluid fable]

No, frems fine u get idk seers ring or something

Ig

[rare hollow]

seers and

[fluid fable]

O, true

[rare hollow]

i mean i would just afk autoretaliate at the mobs if u ask me

[fluid fable]

I think theres a range ring at dags as well right?

[rare hollow]

i also may think theres a melee ring at dags

seers, archers, berserker

[fluid fable]

Yeh but thats just worse ultor

[rare hollow]

you're slippin mate

berserker for points i think

[fluid fable]

Not a valid reason to pick frem

[rare hollow]

the echo items from dags this time is just pure garbage

[fluid fable]

[[Echo daganoth]]

[obsidian bluff]

Wiki links found:
https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Dagannoth_Kings_(Echo)

[fluid fable]

Ohh

Lmfao that thing

Ye someone told me about it the other day

[rare hollow]

i think their fight for the echo is actually really good imo

[fluid fable]

Wouldnt be surprised

[rare hollow]

do you know why frem was so highly picked last leagues

they dropped 2 echo items

necklace and ring

[fluid fable]

Iv done amox and kq and there both good

[rare hollow]

this time they gave 2 items to thermy

[fluid fable]

Amox legitamately top tier content

Kq, well

I mean its still kq, but its better

[rare hollow]

they legit chose 1 region to be busted by doing ts lol

[fluid fable]

Whats ts?

Oh whats thermies othed item

I know of the staff

[rare hollow]

ts is either this/this shit

[little hare]

didnt fiind imp but found a shooting star lol

[fluid fable]

I still gotta get around to actually foghting therm. I have 0 interest in mage, so idc about his drop

[rare hollow]

staff is the new one

[fluid fable]

But id be sad to not even do the fight

[rare hollow]

the old one is that elemental offhand blessing thing

??????

you're wasting your region

[fluid fable]

Nah i took it for zenyte

[rare hollow]

kandarin air mage has stupid dps

you can literally do hardest content in the game

[young osprey]

echo items are the best and worst thing about raging echoes/demonic pacts

[rare hollow]

with massive overhealing and massive dps

it literally is the theme of this league

[fluid fable]

And i get dragon full helm, and dragonfire shield from it

Kand does a lot for me

[fluid fable]

Ye practically afk right. And as much ~fun~ as that sounds, im not all that interested in it.

[rare hollow]

then you make a decent point

i dont like to afk bossing as well

came to learn some actually

so far ive learnt pnm and basics of tob

last thing i can learn is awakened vard

[fluid fable]

Im hoping to learn a lil doom, but honestly im willing to give up on it even in league lll

[little hare]

tier 6 Mining star at prff world 586 if anyone needs

[fluid fable]

That shit looks a lil beyond my inexperience

[rare hollow]

nobody really needs a t6 but tyfc

[little hare]

i need 50 mil mining xp 😄

[young osprey]

star tiers don't matter anymore lmao

[rare hollow]

t8 just for that point

besides

Eternal harvesters stay winning

[fluid fable]

Ye, iv been hoping i just magically come across one

So far found exactly 0 stars total

Let alone a t8

[young osprey]

just check star miners discord

[fluid fable]

Thats up and running again?

[rare hollow]

oh nice im rune rank finally

i can send links

[fluid fable]

I thought jag shut that shit down

[rare hollow]

https://07.gg/trackers/shooting-star

use this website

and turn on the leagues filter

[little hare]

Hopped 30 worlds found zero crystal imps 🙁

[young osprey]

why would they?

[fluid fable]

Idk, dont like it ig

[rare hollow]

they only spawn at :03 and :33

[fluid fable]

The in game chat that was linked to it got removed

[little hare]

Yeah i was trying since xx:30

[rough kraken]

Any worlds going for castle wars?

[young osprey]

which is very fair, because that's interacting with a third party software using your client, a big no no

[rare hollow]

i think there's some sadist catching all the crystal implings

locking 200 points behind signet

ill lock you out of priff jagex

[peak crypt]

I've gotten 4 viggora's now. I just need the sceptre 😭

[fluid fable]

O yeh u could send commands and shit by messaging couldnt u

Ig thats a lil awkies. Outside of that part specifically i dont see how its different tho

If u wanna make a stance on one it should be botj

Or neither

I pick neither

[young osprey]

to my knowledge all stars on there are manually tracked

[fluid fable]

I just

I dont believe that thats true

Them making a statement that sais otherwise wouldnt convince me

[young osprey]

you know you can get a general region it'll be in before it even lands right?

[fluid fable]

I didnt

[young osprey]

mahogany telescope in poh

[fluid fable]

Oh

Interesting

I thought the only way to know was to be at the location

[young osprey]

tells you the general region of the next star to land in that world. from there there's only about 10-15 locations per region

[fluid fable]

I just thought there was a bot on ever spot on every world that pinged something

[young osprey]

there are 82 spots total. multiply that by the amount of worlds (let's ballpark 200).

that's 16400 bots, 75% of which you have to pay membership for

[fluid fable]

Uno what i never think of with bots

[young osprey]

the activity just isn't that lucrative

[fluid fable]

Ye exactly membership

As u werr saying it it occurred to me that, that shits gonna be expensive

[young osprey]

now someone using a bot to cycle through worlds and check the telescope, that I can see happening

but that still means the player has to check all the spots so it's not egregious

[flint path]

Is GC screwing me if I'm 3 seeds at 30 chests? too stoned for math

[young osprey]

GC?

[fluid fable]

Gorrupted cauntlet

[flint path]

CG

lmfao

[young osprey]

oh crystal seeds I thought it was regular ass seeds and was confused because CG doesn't drop those

[flint path]

armor seeds specifically

[young osprey]

3 seeds at 30 is exactly on rate

armor seeds are 1/10 assuming you have t4 or higher

[flint path]

thank you, good night

[torpid current]

what are some good places where a bunch of stuff attacks you to train stats with thorns?
currently using elder chaos druids but is there anything better

(wildy + desert)

[glacial ridge]

any mage wanna duo nex?

drops are dmg based, and mage do low dmg, so to have a good drop chance lets go 2 mages so we have equal dmg

[glacial ridge]

do wildy slayer

[torpid current]

i just want to afk my melee stats i dnt wana do slayer

id have to go grab another task every 200 kills

[cloud panther]

jesus, just had lightning strike so close it knocked my power out for half a second

[versed root]

how can we get to lithkren for rune dragons with frem?

[glacial ridge]

its the best way to train melee with thorns

[torpid current]

i dont want the best way i want an afk away, like elder chaos druids

[weary shadow]

Any good source for medium clues if you don't have Larc

[glacial ridge]

u take a slayer task then u afk, that simple

killing 200 with thorns will take time

no faster way

[torpid current]

no it wont

[glacial ridge]

thats how i did it but ok boss

[torpid current]

when i say afk i want to afk for like an hour straight

[short cave]

hunter 99 so insanely easy with contracts and woodsman

like 10 master contracts from when i unlocked them to 99 is insane

[torpid current]

anyway elder chaos druids is ok ima just do this

[short cave]

time to do achievment diaries and dump all lamps into agility

[torpid trench]

Another day in dragon prison At least today I get temporary reprieve during the update

[naive needle]

just one more respec please

[wooden hamlet]

Does the dihn's passive damage reduction stack with justiciars?

[torpid trench]

How rough is vard with waterthorns mage? Might go hunt down virtus robes because this visage is driving me insane

[tawny tulip]

does defence levels affect thorns?

[torpid trench]

Not that im aware of but it does have its own niche effect where you get 0.1% per level as a chance to reflect the dmg you would have taken

[tawny tulip]

hmmm. So between 20 def levels and 30 health, 30 health would be better

[torpid trench]

yes

[tawny tulip]

since that would only be 2% chance more to reflect

[winged sinew]

what is your guys fastest way to get construction xp (goal is to get to 99)

[weary shadow]

Do you have a lot of gold?

[winged sinew]

i want to know both ways becuase i have a alt

which i don't have gold

currently buying marble blocks

to make thrones

but if i didn't have gold

what would be recommended

[vapid silo]

not rough, just a little slow cause you're mostly relying on just thorns for dmg, you won't be hitting that much with mage

[tawny tulip]

butlers bell for planks into normal cons

[winged sinew]

75 construction

[torpid trench]

And its 1/250ish

oof

[vapid silo]

well, by slow I mean like 20 seconds kills

which is you know, still pretty good compared to main game

[torpid trench]

oh lmao

[versed root]

is there anyway to get dragon xb? or limbs? since we cant get to rune dragons

[vapid silo]

no way

[weary shadow]

I think if you have the right regions maybe Maghogny homes

[winged sinew]

if you don't have money i assume

[weary shadow]

Yes, sorry. That's the most cost effective from memory

[winged sinew]

it does cost the supplies

but cost effective

[rough kraken]

Anyone running BA, I may have left it too late to find people doing it

[peak crypt]

why can i not use my swamp trident for pvp? lol. Just tried to defend myself and couldn't even attack back

[young osprey]

you cannot

[winged sinew]

since i picked abundance, moeny is not an issue on this character, what do you guys do to make as much money as possible, heard people using transmute

[young osprey]

no charges? on staff bash mode?

[winged sinew]

with onyx bolt tips

[vapid silo]

I found teams quite easily in w666 2 days ago

[peak crypt]

No it literally just wont work for pvp. Says it can't be used for it

[vapid silo]

but also now is low pop time

[peak crypt]

Had no idea

[vapid silo]

americans sleeping and europeans going to work

[rough kraken]

ty

[winged sinew]

asia neglected

[tawny tulip]

it's like that in main game. powered staff too op in pvp

[weary shadow]

One day we might get our own servers lol

[young osprey]

just use aus servers you spoiled brats /j

[weary shadow]

Worse ping to them than US West 🙁

[young osprey]

uhh... JP?

only place I can think of that would get better ping on US West than Aus

[weary shadow]

I'm in Korea, but I assume Japan would be the same

[young osprey]

South or North? /j

[weary shadow]

KJU needs his Dragon trophy lol

[winged sinew]

i think picking abundance was the best choice i could have done

not joking

[weary shadow]

Got 4 mediums to get these boots from or it's back to the slog 🙁

[winged sinew]

i don't plan on getting max points or all 99

i just want rune and move on

and not having to grind 10 extra levels to do it is so nice

i can do higher level stuff earlier and just go back to main game

[weary shadow]

Sounds nice

[vapid silo]

yea it's best relic for rushing

[winged sinew]

but i don't rush

[vapid silo]

sounds like ur trying to

[winged sinew]

may sound like it but i have been playing because i am having fun

i want to try other relics

why i gave my alt membership

i will not go past rune rank

not even try to get dragon

not becuase i don't like this league

i loved it

[timber quest]

Just finished 50m wc.. Gonna miss 2.5m p/hour magics

[winged sinew]

literally been bankstanding sometimes

[timber quest]

Ye there's been plenty of times where abundance would've been nice for me too

[winged sinew]

just thinking of what to do

[timber quest]

I'm still grinding for the crystal crown lmao

[timber quest]

Slayerrrr

[winged sinew]

oh

[vapid silo]

same, thieving from elves rn

[winged sinew]

XD

99 slayer

[vapid silo]

way past 200m

[winged sinew]

a long time ago

[timber quest]

I swapped to ore stalls, and tm'ing upto rune to sell in Mistrock

[winged sinew]

and i bought the crystal corwn

crown

[timber quest]

Idk if its better but the tm'ing let's me do other things

[winged sinew]

and i have like 400M+

[timber quest]

Oh baybeeee

[winged sinew]

not even trying to get gp

[timber quest]

Oops I'm rich

[winged sinew]

i love abundance

[timber quest]

Yeah real solid t1 picks this year

There's been so much group think this year

[winged sinew]

for certain people

[timber quest]

The guided masses

[winged sinew]

remember all relics is better for different playstyles

endless harvest for those who want to afk and get like 200M mining

larceny for money, infinate resources and free 200M thieving

i think i made one mistake

[timber quest]

Whatchu do

[vapid silo]

I honestly wouldn't change any of my relic picks

[winged sinew]

was not good this year

imo

i should have picked transmute

[timber quest]

I think I'd have picked eye over map if I went again, but idk if I'm spending more time looking for eye uses and ignoring how I use map

[winged sinew]

i am glad i picked bank heist

[vapid silo]

I am most confident in picking map

[timber quest]

Heist is so cleaaan

I do ignore a lot of the funny uses of map, it made Vale totems so good and I haven't started clueingyet

[winged sinew]

i regret not picking larcenist

[placid creek]

is going Kourend just for Ferocious gloves dumb?

[vapid silo]

map just made all the early task-doing so smooth. like oh I need to do a task over in there, how lucky there's a shortcut nearby

[timber quest]

It's a big area for an item that's good in only 1 style

[winged sinew]

2 mistakes this league but i enjoyed it

[fluid fable]

Check out this goated drop bois

Hell yea dood

[timber quest]

But kourend is an awesome area so not a throw tbh

[winged sinew]

GOLD

[placid creek]

I'm only blind bag and blind bag multihit ranged

[vapid silo]

only thing I didn't like this league is that my RNG has been quite dogshit

[winged sinew]

you struck gold

[timber quest]

Yeee even in late game clean up it's still so sweet, I just die at bosses a lot xD

[vapid silo]

didn't spoon basically anything, went over rate for many things

[winged sinew]

i need 7330 points keft

[fluid fable]

I spooned infernal tecpatle

[winged sinew]

I got spooned in several places

[weary shadow]

Last ring drop before you get his

[fluid fable]

...

Is vard about to fuck me?

[winged sinew]

but also my rng in barrows and blue dragons is shit

[timber quest]

I got bad spoons, beaver on a single chop of drive by oaks, magma mutagen unboosted

[winged sinew]

i killed 237 blue dragons for 1/50 drop

[weary shadow]

The rings go 1 gold ring 2 gold rings then you get their special rings

[timber quest]

But I have soooo much pvm to do still lmao

[vapid silo]

I guess I got more unsireds than in past leagues

[fluid fable]

I just want his shard

[placid creek]

I just can't see another area benefiting me more, since armour is crystal with echo thing, weapons are valamor with the mort hally for a distance swap

[misty sigil]

i spooned pet on first unsired

[fluid fable]

I need dragon platelegs

[vapid silo]

I cannot believe I still have never gotten the sire pet

[winged sinew]

i got zenyte on kill 3

[torpid trench]

Is there something I need to do to trigger the ability to get a visage? Like any npc I need to discuss dragonkin lore with or some trash like that?

[vapid silo]

doing it every fuckin league to 300 kc

[misty sigil]

Oziach

[winged sinew]

zulrah head on kill 5

[timber quest]

I'm still kinda mad that sire was still included

[winged sinew]

the serpentine

embued heart at 9 superior

[vapid silo]

this has been the best sire has felt in a league tho for sure

[timber quest]

I fuckin hate sire the changes weren't enough it's still bad xD

[fluid fable]

[torpid trench]

If we all needed to talk to oziach to get a visage, nobody would have one, since oziach is currently in the void

[timber quest]

I'm still trying to work out why they bothered making it yama themed then did nothing with it

[torpid trench]

something something last week reveal

[vapid silo]

true that's kinda weird

[placid creek]

oziach is on discord, just dm him

[timber quest]

A random event even takes you to mistalin

They couldn't even put some fires in varrock lmao

[winged sinew]

Zulrah loves me

that ias for sure

[timber quest]

Zulrah loves everyone

[placid creek]

Sometimes blindbag feels bad. Sometimes you do like 200 damage a tick

[timber quest]

Return to snek

[torpid trench]

It just feels silly. They should have just given us misth and varla as starters

[timber quest]

Gamba build haha

[vapid silo]

nah varla only start was great

[placid creek]

"8 hitsplats can now be displayed!" cowards

[vapid silo]

misthalin start was getting soooo stale

[winged sinew]

Zulrah, you spoil me

[timber quest]

Starting in varla threw me off cuz I was adamant I wanted to pick varla first

[placid creek]

vala should have been 2nd region for free last league

[torpid trench]

Oh Im not sad about the varla part, but the amount of stuff misth removal has screwed with just feels silly. Like its fairly apparent that they wanted varla start, realized misth didnt have enough stuff to be worth picking, and were just like... welp, nobody gets it then ig, gl gamers

[weary shadow]

I'm glad they did it as I just dismissed Val when I came back and just went straight into sailing

[timber quest]

You'd think cuz yama it would've started in kourend but w/e xf

[torpid trench]

Also^

When I heard yama themed, that was my assumption

[timber quest]

They just wanted to justify that outfit they made for ayiza didn't they

[long trail]

hard agree as varlamore is my fav region in the game :3

[vapid silo]

wonder if karamja + misth as one region would be worth picking, probably still not

[next dust]

?? idk how i have overheal on a bow build

[torpid trench]

itd be better than forcing the tiniest "region" as a 2nd pick

[timber quest]

What echo boss would we get if mist was an option

Scurry?

[winged sinew]

agreed

[torpid trench]

Ive always absolutely hated unlocking karamj

[next dust]

i can overheal with anglerfish?

[timber quest]

Yeah upto 121 at 99 hp

[vapid silo]

karamja start league would be fucked up

[winged sinew]

it gave a lot of insight to other players that varlamore is worth and solid place to be at

[vapid silo]

but funny

[timber quest]

Sailing islands start when? Xdddd

That's such bad bait I'm sorry

[torpid trench]

Karamja being a league region at all is a piss take. Just tag it to Misthalin and let us play the damn league, none of this "unlock your first region... 🖕 " bs

[vapid silo]

I mean that's probably what they'll do honestly

sailing start

[placid creek]

While I agree that Varlamore start is great, it should start on Aldarin

[winged sinew]

but civitas is the capital

kinda

[placid creek]

It's basically big tutorial island

[vapid silo]

I yearn for the Wildy start leagues

[winged sinew]

is how i see it

[timber quest]

I'm a lil surprised they didn't try to sideload some sailing content into leagues

Premade boat for gwenith glide if you pick priff or sometbing

[torpid trench]

Surely that would cause some... Pandemonium

[winged sinew]

that is when i stop playing

[placid creek]

We're probably 1-2 leagues away from skills being 'tested' on league before being added to main

[timber quest]

Nooo wildy is a really fun area

Melee zulrah came from leagues, or was atleast first seen there

[weary shadow]

It's the PVP that turns a lot of people off

[winged sinew]

I don't want them to remove wildy but i never want to to be there

[torpid trench]

yeah until day 1 is just people ragging outside ferox to anyone trying to start their account

[timber quest]

A fair point, the immunity system worked well in dmm I guess xD

[weary shadow]

Give players a way to grief each other and it starts a downward spiral

[timber quest]

Punching down is fun tho :p

[torpid trench]

Eventually it would stop, people are generally more interested in leagues progression than pvp anyway

[weary shadow]

(In leagues where killing others has no purpose outside a duel)

[timber quest]

Ye it would be a small minority

[torpid trench]

but that first day? Nothing but idiot raggers pissing everyone off

[weary shadow]

Those small minorities don't feel like it when you can't do content because of said group