leagues-general

[tacit oyster]

i dont know if i want to try that before i respec into infinite prayer from the +2 prayer when getting hit a 0 pact

[thorn marsh]

Rad.. I haven't tried more than Triples yet, so wasn't sure what the attack cycles were like..

[merry sphinx]

you need to use audio cues cos the animations will have you behind

[rare hollow]

ty for that info earlier infamimi

i did not know this

[tacit oyster]

trying to drink prayer pots or click flask might ruin rhythm on the prayer flicks

[rare hollow]

as hydra has given me 3 ferocious gloves

[past birch]

Although infinite challenge has no breaks, it's 1 tick inbetween

[rare hollow]

and im still waiting on my dhl

[past birch]

Well, zero ticks inbetween rather

[rare hollow]

the infinite might be easier since u dont have random mobs trying to get you after each jad dies right?

[past birch]

No it's way tougher

[rare hollow]

then it is way tougher then

[formal gulch]

OMG I never noticed this the first time I was here!!

[tawdry carbon]

if im afking visage for points, theres no reason to stay at miths if i got the d full helm right ?

[formal gulch]

[tawdry carbon]

steels less contention + same droprate?

[rare hollow]

no

[white marsh]

echo cg can drop the enhanced seed, right? wiki says it has the same drop table as cg...

[rare hollow]

visage? go for the easiest dragon

[tacit oyster]

irons even

[past birch]

You're basically 1 tick swapping forever and as soon as one jad dies out of the six, it respawns shortly after

[thorn marsh]

Yea, Echo CG counts as a regular CG kill with an additional roll for the Echo blessing..

[past birch]

So if you wanna sip a pray pot you either gotta wait for 2 attacks of the same style or you do 2 actions in 1 tick

[thorn marsh]

You get the same loot you'd get from a normal CG kill from the chest in addition to a chance at the echo..

[white marsh]

k thanks

[rare hollow]

hm makes sense

[past birch]

Special challenge took me couple attempts and infinite probably over 30

[tawdry carbon]

kk time to move my afk spot

[rare hollow]

I genuinely thought visage was 1/5000 globally

[formal gulch]

I'm gonna afk brutal blue dragons after I do 2k mithril dragons.

I wish we had access to adamant and rune dragons.

Would be nice to rock full dragon gear.

Trimmed, even.

[rare hollow]

dcb shenanigans

1/2000 for visage after buff in droprate

[past birch]

I can trim your armor sir meet me at the ge

[rare hollow]

why must we suffer

[past birch]

Sir answer to me

[scenic garden]

btw you can select your unlocked regions so it shows green on your unlocked areas on the wiki
https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Demonic_Pacts_League/Tasks

[rare hollow]

meet my main bournos in camelot

[tawdry carbon]

oh wow

steel/irons are so much faster than miths lol

mostly cause its not so popular

[rare hollow]

they are more prone to elemental weaknesses

[tawdry carbon]

im blindbag

[rare hollow]

knowing you yeah

[tawdry carbon]

https://giphy.com/gifs/gigachad-boss-chad-giga-bh1u06PFhB9FCtTFaS

[rare hollow]

imo blindbag feels like it procs more often when i get the last node of that tree

was using blindbag without that final node for a long while

[tawdry carbon]

same

[rare hollow]

suddenly its proccing way more often

[shadow burrow]

I’m on wave 12 against sol. Do I pick doom. Totemic. Or bees lol?

[tawdry carbon]

cuz i went evenly into each tree

[rare hollow]

errrrr

bees

[tawdry carbon]

i like bees

on sol

[shadow burrow]

Wasn’t sure if totem could heal

Sol

[rare hollow]

totem can heal him

[shadow burrow]

I’ll prob die against sol never got this far

[rare hollow]

doom if you're confident af

[shadow burrow]

Water mage thorns eh

No. I suck lol. Bees It is

[tawdry carbon]

u cannot die as water mage thorns at sol

[shadow burrow]

I can

[rare hollow]

bees will annoy you so after sol finishes an attack kill the swarm

[shadow burrow]

And will

[tawdry carbon]

it cant be lol

i dont think he can hit 188

or even combo for 188

[livid slate]

You only die from lasers or standing in pools

[rare hollow]

dont try to kill bees whiel dodging

[shadow burrow]

Who has 188!?

[rare hollow]

me

[tawdry carbon]

all the water thorns mages are walking around with 188

[rare hollow]

lol

[tawdry carbon]

blindbaggers are stuck at 99-105 cuz of the hp burn

[torn robin]

all of em

[shadow burrow]

What do I pray

Quick

Melee?

[tawdry carbon]

nothing

[torn robin]

nothing

lol

[tawdry carbon]

lololol

[rare hollow]

oh u took hp burn? F

[tawdry carbon]

of course

why wouldnt you

[rare hollow]

i dont like that

[tawdry carbon]

more min damage

also its aesthetic

[rare hollow]

it only increases min hit yeah

if it was max hit then id understand

[tawdry carbon]

but its thematic too

demonic pacts

[rare hollow]

its gae

[tawdry carbon]

set yourself on fire

11/10 would demon again

[rare hollow]

ok gtg

sleep time

later nerds

[tawdry carbon]

https://giphy.com/gifs/qKmWi9mfycx6E

gn

[pure karma]

should i be fishing salmon/trout instead of dark crabs?

https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Money_making_guide/Catching_dark_crabs

they only give 40k an hour

[tawdry carbon]

id do the agility+str fish from barb area

[peak crypt]

Does slayer level use the abundance level to pull from when getting an assignment? Or JUST your base level?

[lone bloom]

for training? bro its leagues everything is fast

[pure karma]

i dont have kan

[white marsh]

dr on enh seed feels miserable

[tawdry carbon]

i think its base cuz i didnt get any 90+ tasks till i was 90+ myself
same w hunter runors

[peak crypt]

Cool I figured but was hopeful lol

[lone bloom]

got more enh than i need rn lol

[white marsh]

I got visage faster than I can get this stupid seed

[austere grotto]

Can’t boost for slayer tasks so it just uses base level

[tawdry carbon]

better to go dry on visafe than the seed inverse of this

seed is much faster to keep rerolling w a better droprate

err better to go dry on seed than visafe*

[peak crypt]

But as for the abundance level, would I be able to fight thermy at boosted level?

[tawdry carbon]

yeah if u can get the task lol

[austere grotto]

Yes

[white marsh]

you can semi-afk dragons easier than echo cg

[livid slate]

No

[tawdry carbon]

echo cg is fast tho

1min a pop

[peak crypt]

Have to fight thermy on task?

[torn robin]

no cuz u wont have the level to be assigned them

[tawdry carbon]

yes

[lone bloom]

echo cg is pretty braindead activity for me rn

[white marsh]

doesn't make it fun to run it hundreds of times

[tawdry carbon]

and u need the lvl for the task

so if you somehow got the task sure

[torn robin]

u can fight the echo off task

but u need the orb from the task first lol.

[tawdry carbon]

echo yea but he needs the orb

which is on task

[livid slate]

Still need orb from on task

[tawdry carbon]

which he cant boost to get

[torn robin]

so ur gettin the slayer lvl buddy

[tawdry carbon]

yep

[shadow burrow]

On I won

[tawdry carbon]

luckily its isnanely fast

lol

[shadow burrow]

I don’t think I casted a spell

[peak crypt]

Ahhh okay. Makes sense. Thanks!

[shadow burrow]

I just kept eating

[scenic garden]

why does the lithic spectre special attack fail the thermy task for only killing it with special attack damage >_>
I took off my ring and shield. making sure I only hit it with the spec. still fail.

[tawdry carbon]

i used echo boppers for this

[scenic garden]

also, fun fact, minion still auto-loots while dismissed

[tawdry carbon]

[past birch]

I feel this effect is weak, should be like 30%

[shadow burrow]

I really just want echo boots. Can you get them from any wave?

[tawdry carbon]

yah just send it again its fast

u need spares anyway for charges

[fair swallow]

@shadow burrow wave 4+

[shadow burrow]

Ty

Off topic but any quest that give smithing xp lol?

[tawdry carbon]

4+ rly i never notised

[fair swallow]

in search of knowledge

if you haven't done it

[cyan cove]

whatre some upgrades i can get for this? im trying for a DFS right now but besides that im struggling on Echo cerby, i know i can get echo boots but rng aint having it in the colo

im very tempted to go grind ToB just to go into cerby overpowered with justiclar

[austere mirage]

I have enough keys for every house in Varlamore and more!

620 keys and I most likely won't use 1/100th of what I got

Can I sell them back to the people?

[tawdry carbon]

🤔 Isnt torm bracelet better or on par defensively?

and colo is another low hanging fruit

as u said

[spring cipher]

can u get confliction

[cyan cove]

Echo Boots, idk i tried to deep delve and got clapped two levels down

gaurdian boots and granite gauntlets are definitely my weak spots rn

would prefer Dh helm over Veraks as well

[spring cipher]

deep delve is bugged for drop rates

[spring cipher]

is potting hmt with people for free purple rolls to use justi possible

also go imbue ur ros

doubles ur defensive stats

[cyan cove]

how?

[narrow epoch]

Is there a reason not to take the Executioner Axe?

[tawdry carbon]

nightmare zone

[cyan cove]

I have no idea what this says

[tawdry carbon]

gp -> points

[cyan cove]

ohhhhhhhh

[scenic garden]

is there anything I could take in with me to refill my spec energy for this task?

[spring cipher]

nightmare zone u can pay the npc with gp and then imbue it

[tawdry carbon]

just go bum off some ppl on hmt

they will carry u because u only need 1-2 ppl to clear if u have axe

[cyan cove]

hmt?

[tawdry carbon]

ill send some w u if ur doing em in a fwe houres

hardmode theater of blood

u geta purp every run

[lone bloom]

50 cg kc and got all the armour seeds / enh seeds i needed, so im done with this until combat achievements later

[tawdry carbon]

ez justiciar pieces

[tawdry carbon]

u also need 100kc for a task iirc

[cyan cove]

I mean id be down to farm some ToBs

[lone bloom]

shit ur right, ill come back later still

[tawdry carbon]

send em

are u na-west ping

im in cupertino time zone

[scenic garden]

idk how to deal 240 damage in 1-2 specs

[cyan cove]

im west coast ping

alaska

[scenic garden]

just tried with echo boppers but that was gonna take 5 more specs and I was out of smaller smoke devils to heal off of

[covert night]

who gives the most hydra tasks?

[scenic garden]

looks like the only option for hydras is Konar
https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Hydra

[lone quiver]

Haven't done this task but I think you could spec > recharge your spec > spec > repeat

[scenic garden]

all task info is on the wiki

and how do I recharge my spec?

[lone quiver]

wait lol

[amber sleet]

u can wait for spec to come back

just dont leave the instance

[scenic garden]

yea, that's the problem

it takes like 5 full mins to recharge a spec

and it's dealing chip damage to me for that entire 5 mins

[amber obsidian]

specific question i dont expect anyone to know but worth asking - task for defeating the moons 50 times, is it just open the chest 50 times or do i have to do all 3? aka can i just rush one of them for my remaining KC?

[scenic garden]

so I can maybe get 4-5 specs before I need to leave

then the boss resets

but those 4-5 specs will only do like 60-70% of its health

[amber sleet]

do u have acces to chally?

and which tier 8 did u pick

[covert night]

fr hydras do i protect magic or range?

tank with meele and pray mage?

[amber sleet]

you just need to loot the chest 50 times iirc

[scenic garden]

minion damage fails the task, so I doubt any of the other t8s would have helped much

[amber sleet]

pretty sure i got that one while i was farming just blood moon

[amber sleet]

flask restores your spec energy so that was where i was going

[tawdry carbon]

well then

110 steel/iron dragons for visafe, 500 miths or so for the full helm

[amber sleet]

do you have chally?

[tawdry carbon]

thats an easy 800 pointaloonies hehe

i have chally ya but i dont think ur talking to me

[scenic garden]

I can get one

[amber sleet]

i am not

chally is like the highest hitting single spec on large enemies and it only takes 30%

it is your best option

dump 3 specs into thermy and if u got bad rng reset

then wait if u get good rng

also if you have kourend you can make surge pots im pretty sure

those might help maybe

or if desert put on lightbringer

[lone bloom]

any1 know why chinchompas dont regenerate?

[amber sleet]

because they are living creatures

[amber obsidian]

excellent ty, im going to hold you personally responsible if youre wrong though kind internet stranger

[livid slate]

Do you have over 100%?

[scenic garden]

why can't I make a chally? I have the weapon seed and plenty of shards

[lone bloom]

yes, 115%

everything i own gains charges

[amber sleet]

western provinces hard diary

go do it

[scenic garden]

_>

[amber sleet]

also need easy/med

[spring cipher]

requires diary

[amber sleet]

if u want u can take ur chances with a dds

[livid slate]

Do you have the double throw capstone?

[amber sleet]

that might not be much worse maybe

[lone bloom]

no

[long trail]

you need kandarin for the diary

[scenic kiln]

Omg, I think the game should give us an option to have the two last visited places with teleport items

[amber sleet]

well it would be much worse probably

[spring cipher]

what boss are they doing

[amber sleet]

but it'd be easier to acquire

[spring cipher]

that requires chally

zulrah?

[amber sleet]

he wants the spec out thermy ca

and doesnt want to wait for spec to come back

[spring cipher]

ohh

[covert night]

do hydras have superiors?

[spring cipher]

do they have kourend

[amber sleet]

i already mentioned surge pots

idk if he has or not

[spring cipher]

i see

then idk then

i guess toa has lightbearer

if he has desert

[scenic garden]

never said I don't want to wait

[spring cipher]

chally does seem like a reasonable ask

[amber sleet]

well

[scenic garden]

said I physically can't wait that long because I would die

[amber sleet]

technically true

[spring cipher]

hmmm

[amber sleet]

but that would mean you don't want to wait

because you in theory don't want to die

[scenic garden]

https://tenor.com/view/princess-bride-that-word-does-not-mean-that-inconceivable-gif-14144099

[tawdry carbon]

is there anywhere in TKM that bloodvelds are multi? and aggro?
i can only think of the zeah green mouth ones atm

[spring cipher]

what if you just bring a ton of ppots and pray redemption

while u waited

[shrewd ermine]

Should I be getting 100% potential for barrows? I feel like ever since I started doing it I just have a bunch of bolts and no actual gear.

[amber sleet]

no

potential doesn't affect the equipment rolls

[shrewd ermine]

what should I do then? just kill all barrows and move on?

[amber sleet]

you get 1 default roll for gear

1 extra roll per brother killed

and can only get loot from the brothers you have killed

no duplicate items per chest

[shrewd ermine]

[amber sleet]

so kill the ones you still need gear from

then stop killing the ones you don't need gear from anymore

[long trail]

kill brother loot chest

[amber sleet]

ignore all other enemies if you don't care about the non gear drops

[shrewd ermine]

alrighty

[cloud panther]

how much more likely are you to get gear from CoX CM than you are from normal CoX in league?

[long trail]

3x

[spring cipher]

100% or not it doesnt matter cause it only matters in main game
u get more profit by getting 87% cause u dont roll bolt racks and get more runes = more profit
in leagues u could kill all brothers and just loot

[languid belfry]

If your goal is just a set for the pact point. As you're 1-2 off from most, I'd kill every brother besides Dharok at this point.

Based on your collection log.

[tawdry carbon]

is there anywhere in TKM that bloodvelds are multi? and aggro?
i can only think of the zeah green mouth ones atm

-- bloodveld --

[obsidian bluff]

Wiki links found:
https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/_bloodveld_

[languid belfry]

If dharok is the chest, you kill him anyway for the hell of it.

[shrewd ermine]

so it looks like the weapon drop rates are unchanged? wtf is the point of the boosted rate then 😭

[languid belfry]

Lab.

[languid belfry]

Weapons are boosted from what I can tell, it just doesn't show up.

[livid slate]

They should be the same as the armor

[tawdry carbon]

meyerditchy lab

yea

ok

[languid belfry]

Yeah.

They're not aggro but

goading potion

you have Mastering Mixology for a reason

[shrewd ermine]

well based on the sample set that is my current drop rates it really looks like the weapons are more rare

[spring cipher]

they are changed

[amber sleet]

they are definitely boosted, maybe just forgot to add them there

[shrewd ermine]

I see, how do we know?

[spring cipher]

cause i got a shit ton of them

[shrewd ermine]

ah alrighty

[languid belfry]

Bias. https://i.gyazo.com/e21f6ee6cf1bed95123f6e16c6b1fbad.png

[languid belfry]

This was mine 2 chests before I got Guthan's spear and finished my grind.

[shrewd ermine]

since I have a lot of them already im hoping to get all of them

i might put it on the afterburner though

[languid belfry]

Then keep doing 6 chest kills.

I'd get the pact point first though

then save it for later.

[shrewd ermine]

i agree

[languid belfry]

Pact will help you do more content for better gear/etc and then kill faster.

[shrewd ermine]

right. im focusing on pacts and slayer atm

[languid belfry]

In your case again, target everything besides Dharok's

Leave dharok to cry in a corner.

And just bully his brothers instead

[spring cipher]

i mean they could jsut do all the brothers and eventually get a full set

its probably easier that way

[languid belfry]

They could

[shrewd ermine]

ill just keep doing all 6 cause im already in the area ngl

[languid belfry]

Yeah

[spring cipher]

yea

[languid belfry]

I kind of hit that same point too when

[spring cipher]

its better that way, have chance to hit a set with all of them

[languid belfry]

"Oh I should target ones I have 2-3 pieces of."

"You mean...all of them?"

[shrewd ermine]

i appreciate you guys helping me

[languid belfry]

"Yeah fuck it just kill all of them."

np

barrows grind sucks.

[shrewd ermine]

yeah it's so bad

[languid belfry]

Like I finished colosseum, inferno, and 6 jad challenge

out of spite

[shrewd ermine]

beats the shit I have to do in kourend though

[languid belfry]

before I finishd barrows

oh you pour soul you took fucking Zeah

?

[static arch]

We're finally shmoovin.

[languid belfry]

hell yeah.

You can play the game now

[shrewd ermine]

im waiting to do colosseum until I get better thorns and boots if possible cause im rocking the lunar shoes rn 😭

[narrow epoch]

I can't decide between axe and minion 😵‍💫

[languid belfry]

Oh. Do Grotesque guardians

[tawdry carbon]

bro why did i even pick grim nobody cares that im freezing crabs 😭

[spring cipher]

confliction

get it!

[languid belfry]

I got the boots from taht

and it was my BiS till echo

[shrewd ermine]

[languid belfry]

echo grotesque guardians is literally afk on thorns

[livid slate]

I spammed 1-11 in colo early to get echo boots

[narrow epoch]

I appreciate the freezers in ToB

[livid slate]

Was super worth

[languid belfry]

And lithic sceptre lets you kill anything even with shit accuracy

[languid belfry]

I also appreciate freezers in ToB

[tawdry carbon]

[languid belfry]

Legit everyone being water + thorns means someone who can use actual freeze spells

are a godsend

[shrewd ermine]

yeah, colo is kind of tricky for me. I could learn it and probably clear it already but I'd rather build up thorns first

[tawdry carbon]

blindbag freezer gang

[languid belfry]

hey guess what

you kill melee nylos for me

[tawdry carbon]

we raided together

remember

[livid slate]

What is your pact setup currently?

[languid belfry]

without making me swap to lithic sceptre

yeah

And it was a great experience

[tawdry carbon]

https://giphy.com/gifs/clap-hunter-soul-of-cinder-C6lzMf9f2ZPwNgcGaK

[narrow epoch]

Honestly, I've seen blindbagers pop off in ToB

[tawdry carbon]

ya ive been yoinking mvp from the mages

i cant take it from kings barrage ppl tho

[livid slate]

Yeah to the death cell

[tawdry carbon]

that dmg is too high

[languid belfry]

Blindbaggers help a lot because ToB hates mages and likes kicking them in the teeth accuracy wise

[shrewd ermine]

https://tools.runescape.wiki/demonic-pacts/?n=1-112-113-114-122-133-134-135-136-139-140-141-145-44-45-46-53-56-60-68-69-71-74-92-94-96-97

[languid belfry]

https://tools.runescape.wiki/demonic-pacts/?n=1-135-136-139-140-141-145-146-44-46-71-74-81-84-96-97

[shrewd ermine]

it's solid but none of it is really developed

[amber sleet]

what kind of mages

[narrow epoch]

I'm kinda wanting to get the executioner's axe just to pop bosses... but minion seems like the meta...

[amber sleet]

water mages?

[languid belfry]

This is all you need to do Colosseum

tbh

[amber sleet]

or air mages

[tawdry carbon]

water thorns ppl ya

i cant out dps air at tob

[amber sleet]

i mean

[pure karma]

go flask

[tawdry carbon]

or fire

[amber sleet]

yeah

[tawdry carbon]

or kings barrage

[languid belfry]

If you want more safety I guess you can do this: https://tools.runescape.wiki/demonic-pacts/?n=1-122-133-135-136-139-140-141-145-146-44-46-56-59-68-71-74-81-84-96-97

[livid slate]

If you can get those two you're more than good to do colo

[shrewd ermine]

yeah ik. need 2 more though 😭

once I wrap up barrows im going to prog moons for one of the items

[amber sleet]

i would hope that the fully defense oriented free 100 hp per attack sustain build would deal less dps than the only damage no defense melee build

[tawdry carbon]

but when the scy + echo blindbag hits its just fuckin

dopamine

[narrow epoch]

I'm a water thorns mage, though...

[spring cipher]

u can take flask to help with crabs, shoot n1/ and then flask to kill the rest as a clump

[amber sleet]

the sad thing is they don't even deal that much less than us

[tawdry carbon]

yeah

i know

blindbag is horrible lmao

fire mages at crabs are 👨‍🍳

[shrewd ermine]

flask is still okay tbh

[tawdry carbon]

gives me insane envy

[shrewd ermine]

especially for guantlet

[languid belfry]

Oh right I didn't have flask when I did ToB back then

LMAO.

I was the only tier 7

[tawdry carbon]

yeah

but we did it clean

[narrow epoch]

Well, luckily I don't need to do the Gauntlet prison

[languid belfry]

yeah I can flask them now

[shrewd ermine]

minion and flask are fine. I'd personally lean towards minion though if you're already water thorns

i've not decided myself yet, but im 120 points away, and that's going to be my choice probably

[languid belfry]

I disagree. Flask benefits from thorns pacts, and if you can make thorns break to the 20/10 break point

each thorns reflect is 3 ticks off the cooldown

[tawdry carbon]

for me the real choice is flask vs axe

[languid belfry]

you are literally spamming flask nonstop.

[tawdry carbon]

i picked minion only thematically but imo

flask is the winner

[past birch]

It kinda makes sense

Should be the winner then

[languid belfry]

I mean minion is really nice for afk grinds

[lone quiver]

idk ur pact build, but I sustain with the heal 2 hp + prayer node from the stray devils and just wait till spec comes back for thermo. I think you could also sustain if you have eternal sustenance. I just completed it with dds

[livid slate]

Flask is purely combat focused

[tawdry carbon]

minion is qol

[shrewd ermine]

flask is great for speedrunning, but I think minion is a bit more versatile

[livid slate]

Minion has utility outside of combat viability

[tawdry carbon]

and hes cute

[languid belfry]

so there is a case for it

[past birch]

Axe users meanwhile

[languid belfry]

Minion for example lets you 100% afk mith dragons

[scenic garden]

they're not hitting 0s consistently enough for that

[tawdry carbon]

look at this guy

[languid belfry]

to get the BiS (barring wildy takers) shield for water + thorns

[tawdry carbon]

you kidding me you dont wanna get this cutie patootie behind you

[livid slate]

I'm getting that imp whistle from the reward shop

on god

[tawdry carbon]

me too

i still never picked my trialblaze 1 rewards

from like 5 years ago or whenevr it was

lmao

[lone quiver]

pray range and tag all smaller devils

[scenic garden]

tried that, they still hit thru prayer

[tawdry carbon]

ty whoever reminded me of the bloodveld lab

[scenic garden]

so there must be some magic damage or smth

[tawdry carbon]

tag all with ham joint -> auto retaliate

[shrewd ermine]

what loot do mythril drags drop that people want besides like drag full help? the mixes?

[tawdry carbon]

[tawdry carbon]

dfs

[languid belfry]

draconic visage

[shrewd ermine]

ah

[livid slate]

Dragon bones and mith bars outside of DFS and DFH

[languid belfry]

It's a 1/2000 grind

lol

[tawdry carbon]

its 2 tasks for this for 400 pts

[livid slate]

Minion loots em

[tawdry carbon]

200 ea

smith 200 wear 200

[languid belfry]

meaning most peopel don't do it without minion

[shrewd ermine]

ah, but if you're like me with soul you prob dont need minion then

[livid slate]

For that grind, probably not

[shrewd ermine]

yeah, it's still useful for long slayer tasks

oh hey weapon

[languid belfry]

dragon full helm is also 400 points from mith dragons

[languid belfry]

Grats

[tawdry carbon]

yea i just finished d full helm and dfs task today

i still need to go back and finish barrows

[livid slate]

If you don't have a herb solve you can do specter tasks for this per 200:

[shrewd ermine]

sadly not enough for a full set 😭

[livid slate]

With minion ofc

[languid belfry]

Game trolls like that

[tawdry carbon]

i think you mean

[spring cipher]

im 2300 dragon kc in without minion !

[tawdry carbon]

[spring cipher]

surely i get dfs

[tawdry carbon]

winion*

i got censored

[shrewd ermine]

I know some people who are also water thorns who deeply regret flask

[livid slate]

Deeply is a bit wild

Flask is good

[tawdry carbon]

if u have axe everyone in hmt will love you

if you have flask everyone in hmt will appreciate you

[livid slate]

Now if you got axe and you're not a tob head..

You're cooked

[spring cipher]

i really like flask idk

it lets me play super dangerously

[tawdry carbon]

i think flask or axe are objectively the best choices

[narrow epoch]

It works on other bosses, though, right?

[tawdry carbon]

but the minion is cute

[languid belfry]

Yes but I think at this point you give off patience elemental vibes.

[livid slate]

it does, but not enough to matter

[languid belfry]

Like the: "I tried beating Dark Souls 2 with immolation" vibes.

[spring cipher]

the venge to tank verzik p1 dawnbringer spec 3 times into flask explode into 3 more dawn bringer spec

HOLY

[shrewd ermine]

someone told me flask doesnt work on all bosses or interactions (never specified though)

[tawdry carbon]

i spent a whole summer on ds2 SotFS soul level 1 bonfireless run

[languid belfry]

doesa not clear death queue with maze.

*Does

for ToB

[spring cipher]

some bosses dont get affected due to how they're designed main game

[livid slate]

High octane gaming

[shrewd ermine]

I see

[languid belfry]

Also does not always clear death queue for when jads stack you out

but you know what does

Endless Sustenance pie baby

That's right fish takers win again

[livid slate]

I however will continue to use my two specs and afk water mage before air maging the rest of verzik

[shrewd ermine]

does minion do a lot of dps? I know its accuracy is good so probably great for vardorvis for example

and the bunny in T

[livid slate]

It's noticeable

[languid belfry]

Pretty good DPS

[livid slate]

The AoE is great

[languid belfry]

I want to say tbh Minion is probably better in the jads challenge?

Because it should auto tag healers for you

[livid slate]

It's so good in those challenges

[languid belfry]

wheras flask makes you have to take some super risky plays

[narrow epoch]

Well, back to ToB while I continue to have decision paralysis over the Tier 8 relic

[shrewd ermine]

do people just not do the challenge normally?

[languid belfry]

Source: I had to run into a jad hitbox to flask them and the healers during 6 jads

[spring cipher]

my friend took axe so we would kill verzik when first crabs spawn at the first 20% cause if you time it well, the axe rips through both the 20% and the post heal 20% and she dies even tho she flies away with a giant purple healing splat

[languid belfry]

That sucked

[shrewd ermine]

not sure how many people complete 6 jads in main game

[languid belfry]

Does the average Leagues tourist (hi it's me) have the skill to prayer flick 6 jads

[spring cipher]

its crazy how u just skip her bonus healing phase

[livid slate]

Godt Dayum

[spring cipher]

LOL

[livid slate]

Normally the axe groups I ran with skip final crabs

[languid belfry]

axe is super good in raids

[livid slate]

But double skip is wild

[shrewd ermine]

idk tbh. I assume most people are way better than me at the game lol

[placid creek]

"you can have 2 overhead prayers" relic when

[spring cipher]

2 of us would flask and tank verzik p1 and spam our specs and then whenever its 20% he would axe and we would skip phases fast

its insane to see

and we're doing trios

[livid slate]

That sounds spicy

I’ve been hitting 658 and watching plank city

[shrewd ermine]

like I learned that you can switch tabs with keyboard a few days ago and that was huge for me XD

[livid slate]

Got me ~50 hmt kc though

No mega rare vouchers because jagex hates me

[spring cipher]

the trick is for air mage/thorns to keep dpsing verzik over and over super fast and when ur near 20% have the executioner camp the axe and toss it out non stop

and it skips the post healing phase

[placid creek]

I kind of wish I could keep the tabs from going away if I press the hotkey for the tab I'm on

[little wraith]

ahahahha I WIN

[shrewd ermine]

not sure what u mean

[placid creek]

I miss prayers a lot because I F2 to swap to prayers, and I was already on prayer, so it closes my prayers

[livid slate]

Y’all’s pb must be wild

Mines 13:36 rn iirc

[fickle thistle]

Just getting to my point grind. What’s the best way to grind out mastering mixology

[shrewd ermine]

i see

[tawdry carbon]

bruh winion cant hurt kurasks

[languid belfry]

Farm a shit ton of herbs/stockpile them. Install plugins, just follow plugins.

Win.

[livid slate]

What do you mean? Like getting the pots/herbs?

[tawdry carbon]

blindbag needs multiple leaf bladed weps for kurasks too

omg lmaoaoao

[livid slate]

Or the minigame itself?

[fickle thistle]

I’ve never done it and I’m not sure if different herbs have different values

[livid slate]

There’s a mixology plugin on the plugin hub

[fickle thistle]

Butler has given me thousands

[livid slate]

Literally tells you what to do

1 for 1

[fickle thistle]

I’ll check it out

[languid belfry]

yup

Just use the plugin

[livid slate]

So op

[shrewd ermine]

"the plugin"

im being facecious but which one is it

[languid belfry]

top one I think

[pure karma]

install all 4

[little wraith]

1.9.1

[livid slate]

I forget which one, I think the top

[pure karma]

for the true mixology experience

[tawdry carbon]

lol 2o f them are pointing at commit hashes instead of release tags

[shrewd ermine]

b-but viruses

[cloud panther]

okay I have found that Vanguards in CoX is extremely annoying when you have a thorns build. had to take off boots, my shield and my ring to keep from triggering the heal

[spring cipher]

[shrewd ermine]

some of the hard tasks shouldnt be hard tasks ngl

[spring cipher]

leagues so fun

[placid creek]

Demonic Pacts are so much more engaging compared to combat masteries

[livid slate]

I ain't being that PB on 658 lmfao

[languid belfry]

Honestly while the early game felt worse, the late game when you have 30+ pacts feels so much stronger than previous leagues

[pure karma]

13 hrs of fishing for 200 points oh boy

[languid belfry]

I think if they do this again or something similar, they just need to smooth out the early game a bit

[livid slate]

I just did that with abundance for 99 fishing lmao

[placid creek]

I just like the problem of "okay, so how do I get these pact points while being bad at the game?"

[languid belfry]

yeah

[spring cipher]

tho that pb was like 5s pb and what we did was have guy freeze 70s 50s and 30s at once and then we would have 3 people flask on the pile while also nuking maiden with it

🤣

[languid belfry]

I mean I went from being unable to do certain bosses/etc to

[spring cipher]

i think our trios were like 14 min

[pure karma]

this has converted me to only take endless ahrvest every league

[languid belfry]

"Alright fuck it I'll learn it live."

[shrewd ermine]

the fact that 90% of kandarin pacts are behind slayer is kind of wild

[languid belfry]

yeah

And also that you can go 411 dry on a single god damn fucking Zenyte

I hate those monkeys

so much

[shrewd ermine]

this was me not too long ago LOL

[pure karma]

i think zenytes are bugged

[static arch]

Spooned

[placid creek]

"I need to complete corrupted gauntlet, but first I have to spend 4 hours at Toci cutting gems because I can't beat CG without doing that first"

[livid slate]

I was gonna reload into it, but I took butler instead

[static arch]

Wish d chain was a task

[shrewd ermine]

if you mean drops, you can still get them

[livid slate]

I bet that is wild to watch lmao

[languid belfry]

I think the RNG seed they use for Zenytes

or w.e

is very skewed

[livid slate]

Usually flaskers I run with use it to avoid planking

Rather than offensively

[languid belfry]

I.E I've only seen either 5x-6x+ dry

or

like 11 in 1x/2x drop

there is no in between

So probably no streak/bad luck mitigation in the RNG function they used for that specific drop table

[tawdry carbon]

question

how does this happen?

[spring cipher]

my friends are like the type of person to go "wtf are you saving it for use it for damage are you scared of dying??"

[languid belfry]

(For non-programming nerds, sometimes games use rigged/weighted RNG to try and mitigate frustration factor)

[pure karma]

even greater demons

[livid slate]

They changed blocks

[spring cipher]

"you dont need flask to save you if you simply dont die"

[livid slate]

You may have blocked it at steve

[spring cipher]

xD

[livid slate]

But not duradel

[shrewd ermine]

I did pretty alright. got my zenytes pretty early on but little crossbow parts

[past birch]

All the tasks are bugged. You can get b2b tasks afte cancelling, blocked stuff shows up anyways, etc.

[tawdry carbon]

christ

ok

[languid belfry]

Those flaskers don't realize that Flask isn't actually reliable at clearing death queues lol.

[livid slate]

It's a bit odd

[languid belfry]

Make them do the 6 jad challenge

with the flask and they'll notice really quick

lmao

[livid slate]

You have 1 tick to clear death queue

[past birch]

Flask gives a small window of immunity

[livid slate]

That's all you get

[languid belfry]

yes

[toxic vortex]

Nah it makes complete sense

Block lists should be master specific

[languid belfry]

but also

[placid creek]

I just want minion for infinite bones

[languid belfry]

the immunity fades as soon as the damage of the 3rd tick goes off

as far as I can tell

not when the visual effect ends on your character

so you can actually get stacked out while the shockwaves are exploding/your character is still glowing

I.E I feel like any time I've tried to use the flask as a death save

I would have been better off eating endless sustenance pies or something else instead

lol

or just anglerfish + karambwan combo eat

[spring cipher]

ive definitely died thinking flask was still making me immune to damage

[languid belfry]

yup

the immunity goes off earlier than it looks

[spring cipher]

so now i just use it as dps instead

[languid belfry]

and it is damn good dps

especially in thorns builds

[spring cipher]

it is

its basically a sol spear

sol spear my beloved

:(

[livid slate]

I miss sol spear

[languid belfry]

Lithic sceptre is just not as cool

[livid slate]

Was the goat

[languid belfry]

it's not bad but

there is so much shit in this game that hates magic

[livid slate]

Lithic is sol spear's younger brother that is a bit weird but got some motion

[languid belfry]

that sometimes even if you have spec charges you'll still do reduced/no damage from enemies just going

"I'm immune to magic idiot."

[languid belfry]

Like I didn't notice it as much doing trailblazer when I went shadow and mage in that leagues

but

this leagues?

[tawdry carbon]

canbt believe i forgot to do this

[languid belfry]

Holy shit I am noticing how many enemies just randomly have 900 magic defense

[spring cipher]

i rarely go mage cause its usually dogshit

[languid belfry]

or something stupid

[past birch]

What's the thieving lvl required?

[spring cipher]

im mostly a melee main

[languid belfry]

Yeah.

[shrewd ermine]

dont forget there's the gem stall one too

[languid belfry]

I can see why.

[tawdry carbon]

idk ive had 200m xp for a long time now

lol

[languid belfry]

"How much magic defense does Leviatihan h-"

"Oh just a casual TWO HUNDRED"

"GREAT."

[tawdry carbon]

200 aint bad

[languid belfry]

It's not bad once you have better gear or accuracy nodes

but going into it with 65% accuracy

was oof

[queen thicket]

Magic defense itself doesn't matter without factoring magic level as well

Tbf

Both are a calculation for it

[past birch]

Yeah magic lvl has much more impact

[languid belfry]

yeah

the +10 magic levels from the base magic node this leagues

actually has helped a good amount

despite being a less noticable node

[queen thicket]

I meant NPC magic level

https://tenor.com/view/meevin-cat-explosion-gif-15153380322273002095

[languid belfry]

🤔

[queen thicket]

They have a magic level, and a magic defense

[languid belfry]

Do both not matter? Or does the formula favor

NPC magic level that much more

[jovial tiger]

can i complete the fally diary without fremmy for the golden helmet?

[cloud panther]

sigh

[queen thicket]

I don't remember the exact formula but both do matter

[languid belfry]

yeah

I mean from last night's TOA: https://i.gyazo.com/edbf6eeccb1b4094a5c38206a7e2e8a8.png

with 115%( 135%? I forget, I'm not ingame atm) mage accuracy vs Kephri

6 minutes 41 seconds trying to mage Kephri sucks.

if I just afk with thorns and protect magic though

the kill time goes down to 3 minutes

[livid slate]

760 when

[languid belfry]

and that was me being super lazy and forgetting to use flask

[languid belfry]

When I'm done farming pact points probably

[livid slate]

Makes sense

I assumed you were 40/40 😭

[languid belfry]

Does 760 even boost drops at this point

or is it just for the challenge

[livid slate]

Nope

I actually think it lowers your drop rate

Ngl

Solo, that is*

But it's a funny and flex screenshot

[spring cipher]

during leagues 5 there was similar tech where after stacking 70 50 and 30s you would have someone thunder khopesh the stack out

[livid slate]

khopesh

My beloved

I would've given mory for you if you were here

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-spongebob-sad-spongebob-depressed-spongebob-head-in-hands-spongebob-react-gif-2112710549962906415

Jagex really took all my favorite echo items out the game

sadge

[spring cipher]

echo items this leagues felt a lil lackluster

besides quadrant

[livid slate]

Imagine thorns with the ward

Holy insanity

[shrewd ermine]

the door in front of me is locked

[toxic vortex]

Then you need to go around

[languid belfry]

look behind you

[shrewd ermine]

i know

[toxic vortex]

Imagine not having evil eye

Lmao

[languid belfry]

Definitely. Shadowflame was the only one I really went: "Oh hell yes, my build is online now."

[past birch]

You need to reset everything gg 😢

[languid belfry]

Everything else was......

"Lithic is kind of nice, has its niche uses. Better than trident..."

[shrewd ermine]

[languid belfry]

Drygore: "...Thrown sucks this leagues, this is two handed, but also isn't this literally bugged" (until it was hotfixed last week)

[livid slate]

The drygore blowpipe would've been so good if it bounced to typeless damage

Instead of the goofy dot and the griefing double shot

[languid belfry]

demonbane boppers: "So this is theoretically good vs doom. But you know what's better vs doom? Just tanking the 99 damage with water thorns"

[past birch]

Hey I have the drygore and it's alright, I don't really complain with it

[spring cipher]

imagine old melee perk of having a built in ely on top of that

[languid belfry]

I have the drygore

but by the time I had it I had shadowflame quadrant

and 0 ranged nodes

[livid slate]

literal afk infinite jad challenge type beat

justi, ward, old melee perk

sheeeesh

[past birch]

What I did was going for bow pacts since I got tbow quite early, but then I needed a lighter weapon (nature recurve is awful)

So I spent some points on thrown

[spring cipher]

they should have made drygore bp typeless damage but scales off ranged str

[past birch]

Although the bottom thrown pacts are bad

[spring cipher]

imagine

[languid belfry]

That'd actually be really sick

[livid slate]

Nature's Recurve and Drygore Blowpipe really needed to be better

[languid belfry]

Drygore is usable

[livid slate]

They're good, but ngl they almost kinda feel main game adjacent..

[languid belfry]

but no one is picking

desert as region 1

lmao

[past birch]

Yeah drygore is usable but recurve is not good

If recurve had the healing/prayer effect further boosted and/or let you overheal, that'd make it decent

[languid belfry]

I think recurve bow also kind of suffers from the same thing

does recurve bow help you get any of your pacts

in the region it's unlocked in?

Lithic Sceptre at least helps you with ToB, Barrows, and even Sins of the Father

(And phosani nightmare kind of)

shadowflame is shadowflame

[past birch]

To be fair if we compare magic to anything else then all other weapons seem like they don't help

[languid belfry]

I mean king barrage

helps you solve all wildy pact points

but that's kind of cheating tbh

For a less cheating example though

I have seen certain 1h light weapon spec builds tear through god wars farming with dogger

In Asgarnia

[livid slate]

I really wanted to go King's Barrage, I was gonna go KTW, but I wanted to have a raid region :/

[languid belfry]

I think that's a good compromise

I.E Dogger isn't endgame, but it does help you with your region pact grinds

[past birch]

I have dogger and decent melee gear. It's not as strong to really tear through them

[languid belfry]

are you full spec focused?

[past birch]

It's actually quite disappointing. I believe what jagex had in mind was to pair it with fire pacts, kind of like kings barrage focuses on ice

[languid belfry]

And fire mastery?

yeah

the build I saw used both.

[past birch]

Yeah but fire mastery kills the build

Because you start burning yourself and you just die

Unless you go thorns maybe

[languid belfry]

yeah

[past birch]

But even then it really hurts

I had to respec because of that interaction

[languid belfry]

I think the person who did it

used flask?

I.E they burned themselves down, then flasked and did it again

[past birch]

I'm skeptical whether that really works

Again maybe I can see it with thorns

But at some point you probably have to switch to whip

Otherwise you can't maintain the damage with flask on cd

[pure karma]

13500 left

[shadow burrow]

Solo Huey the best way to get dragon ward. Doing alch hydra is brutal as mage. No hits maybe dragon ward will help

[toxic vortex]

Should be able to get 99wc and fm tonight

[shrewd ermine]

make the suffering end :(

[cyan cove]

so how is doom glitched? like should I just keep going as far down as I can handle?

keep hitting 1 floor then reset

[livid slate]

Do not do that

[cyan cove]

it doesnt

[livid slate]

Do 1-8

Then reset

[shadow burrow]

Would dragon ward be good for hydra?

[cyan cove]

idk im on 3 and its getting kinda spicy

[livid slate]

It gets real spicy at 8

But the rates are better

And it's good to learn

even though I hate doom

[cyan cove]

I did all 8 on grid masters but that was a lil different

I dont mind the prayer flicks tbh

[static arch]

Just learned that Devil's Element doesn't work with Thorns

:/

[cyan cove]

yeah we'd be entirely too op

[shrewd ermine]

instead of water thorns, could I just use a powered staff and max out rune regeneration for heals?

basically more dps, less heals but thorns might be able to compensate if I put on justi and max accuracy?

[livid slate]

Water thorns is more defensive

Powered thorns is more offensive

[shrewd ermine]

right

both have heals but idk if its worth just focusing powered

[livid slate]

So if you don't need to tank, go crystal and powered staff

But like colo/inferno/jad challenges etc.

You want tank

[shrewd ermine]

rn im just half and half. I main toxic staff but I have lunar staff for heals

[livid slate]

So for barrows

Go powered staff

[shrewd ermine]

right just thinking about overall content

[digital oriole]

anybody wanna run 700 invo toas on leagues

[shrewd ermine]

what's the next non powered staff I should look to upgrade towards cause rn im using lunar staff which kind of sucks

[pure karma]

how do i do tob with thorns? nylos are killing me if i attack them

[shrewd ermine]

it ONLY heals me

[livid slate]

You have K?

[shrewd ermine]

TKM

[livid slate]

You can 100% get quadrant

With what you have

Get that slayer and go for it

[shrewd ermine]

okie dokie

is this better than sang staff in terms of dmg?

[quiet spindle]

anyone happen to remember off hand what's needed to access nature grotto? Mory auto unlocked for me but I can't enter it lmao

[livid slate]

It can be, if you do something similar to my builld

I'm air/water thorns

[pure karma]

right click door

[livid slate]

I have sang it was really good for pinch healing and dps

But the air side is wild

[quiet spindle]

only option is search and says "you find nothing"

[shrewd ermine]

because you use water and air runes, do both spell trees apply?

or does it have to be one or the other

[livid slate]

Not the capstone, but the prayer regen yes

[shrewd ermine]

alrighty

[quiet spindle]

ignore that, I had the option hidden with menu swap lol

[shrewd ermine]

i was thinking about shadowflame for heals but keeping toxic staff if I need more dps

[livid slate]

That is also totally fine

[spring cipher]

oh hey

new bis

im not even dry

total of like 2200 dragons lol

[glacial ridge]

any faster way than crafting recoils to fill suffering? took me hours to do just to run out 2 days later

[livid slate]

Nope

Tis the cost of greatness, I'm afraid

[shrewd ermine]

i just went thorns :)

[covert night]

whats drop rate boost?

x5?

[shrewd ermine]

if you get the passives from relics yes

[covert night]

i have all relics

so 5

[glacial ridge]

yes

[shrewd ermine]

here you go: https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Demonic_Pacts_League/Boosted_drops

helps me

[little ermine]

wish the boosted drops can go to 8x when you get t8 relic

[fathom turret]

8x 0 is still 0

DHL and and conflictions dont drop

[glacial ridge]

fastest way for recoils? anyone

[toxic vortex]

There's only one way

[glacial ridge]

if i have one dt2 boss available, i can i get blorva?

or no i have 2

whisp and vardorvis

[toxic vortex]

Not sure how that works for leagues

[dire tree]

no, you need all 4 bosses to get the kit

so you'd have to take exactly asgarnia, frem, desert

[torpid trench]

My partner asked me about swapping from thorns watermage to 1t poweredstaff thorns.

Whats the survivability like on 1t staves? Ive only really seen stuff about blindbag and watermage so far

[fathom turret]

If you have crystal armor its ok, otherwise powered staves just felt inferior to the shadowflame in every aspect

[kind cairn]

do scythes count as halberd?

[toxic vortex]

No

[kind cairn]

sadge

[tawdry carbon]

--boosted drops-

--boosted drops--

[obsidian bluff]

Wiki links found:
https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/boosted_drops

[tawdry carbon]

o.O

1/70? really?

im at 320kc. hm.

[fathom turret]

at least their afk

[tawdry carbon]

im fighting the boss

[fathom turret]

still afk

[scenic garden]

I'm at 60 kc with 3

[fathom turret]

could be at 460 hydra....

Yama was more afk than hydra

[covert night]

i died to hespori

[tawdry carbon]

oh no

[covert night]

where is my grave marker?

[tawdry carbon]

aha

[fathom turret]

dude outside has your stuff

[covert night]

outside hespori?

from echo boss?

[fathom turret]

yea

[covert night]

i dont see a grave marker

[fathom turret]

its a npc

[scenic garden]

does that with echo guardians too

[fathom turret]

should have a collect option

jagex needs to remove all grave collectors

[lone bloom]

for the task "equip every zenyte jewellery" how can you do that if 2 of them are neck slot items

you cant wear both

[covert night]

doesd he disapear

or does he stay there

[tawdry carbon]

just put it on in sequence @lone bloom

[covert night]

until i get my stuff>?

[fathom turret]

i think hes always there

just dont die again

or your stuff is gone

[scenic garden]

it doesn't say "at the same time"

[lone bloom]

i see

[kind cairn]

Soooo do Yama Dossier's give x10 contracts?

[toxic vortex]

Yes

[lone bloom]

maxed water thorns mage isnt enough to cheese the jad challenges, getting stacked out 118-75 dmg

[tawdry carbon]

it should be

are you praying against at least 1 style

[scenic garden]

I was somehow unkillable with 1t staff

[lone bloom]

yeah using prot mage, water surge, cant out dps the healers so i have to atk them too

tried w prot range too

[scenic garden]

no idea how I didn't get stacked out only healing 1 hp per tick

cause I was def missing lots of prayers

[lone bloom]

if 2 of them hit for 100 dmg each at the same time then ur auto dead

[scenic garden]

you would think so

[lone bloom]

tried again and got stacked 80-60-40

[placid creek]

Cool, first time beating Corrupted Gauntlet

I hate it

[lone bloom]

this is only the 5 jad challenge

[placid creek]

I need some plugin that shows where everyone is actually standing, because those little flamey bois feel so random

[lone bloom]

gauntlet plugin

[placid creek]

osnap

[scenic garden]

3 toads and only 1 chompy, is that supposed to happen?

I swear woodsman doesn't work for pulling in hunter creatures. I've had to reset so many empty traps.

[narrow epoch]

Well, I got through my 25th ToB run!... shame a couple of the folks in it were super toxic at each other the whole time ffs.

Only 3 more pacts before I max out!