leagues-general

[weary shadow]

I made the "right" choice lol

[torpid trench]

She's like top 3 bosses for me, so thats fine

[weary shadow]

I just find the fight slow for one they want you to do so many times

Or is there some trick to skip her phases?

[tacit oyster]

at least whisperer has like 40% higher chance to drop items than other dt2 bosses

[weary shadow]

Oh does she

[torpid trench]

I got my first sang staff around the same time I finished DT2 on my main, and just full sent her post quest until I got kills. I went like 200 deaths until it finally clicked, and then did like 350kc in one holiday long weekend

[weary shadow]

As Levi was not fun, and I just don't get how Awakened Levi is even possible. You cannot pray flick fast enough (or maybe it's my ping as I have 140 min)

Dam that's some commitment

[winged sinew]

"right choice " anything but executioner/grimiore soem say abundance and bank heirs too

[torpid trench]

I dont normally get that way, but I kept getting so, so, so insanely close to getting kills

It became a personal insult until she went down, and then I had to prove a point

[tacit oyster]

enrage on awakened levi you really just hope it does multiple in row

[weary shadow]

Respect tbh, I do like doing that

Now if this dogo will drop the other 2 boots that would be great

[winged sinew]

i do kiunda wan a pet in leagues

[torpid trench]

Rocky is free

[winged sinew]

rocky pet would be nice

[weary shadow]

How free is free?

[tacit oyster]

skotizo also pretty free with culling spree

[torpid trench]

Larceny + gem stalls is like 10M+/h

The pet rate is insane

[weary shadow]

I wish I took Larceny

[torpid trench]

I didnt on my main, and i dont regret it

but i do wish i had rocky

[weary shadow]

It's made worse that I took Soul Harvest to solve for runecrafting, then took Dessert because I confused the raids

[torpid trench]

Thats brutal

I might still take desert, because toa is my fave raid

well, fave that I can do. I prefer tob, but I dont have ppl to go with regularly, and am still very new to it, so teams dont often want me along

[weary shadow]

Oo Smoldering stone

[winged sinew]

kinda we me, too but we what must because we can

I will use try to buy a one day membership for runescape if it sitll works

[weary shadow]

I will say that the Map of Alacrity is my favorite teleport object so far

[torpid trench]

Did you try the mushroom?

[winged sinew]

use to do on mobile and i worked for both runescape 3 and osrs

[weary shadow]

I have both

Great for clue solving

[torpid trench]

My other relic choices forced me to take the farm relic, I didnt even consider the mushroom, but it has become my favorite unlock of all

so useful

Day 2 of mith dragons. No visage

[tacit oyster]

the only issue i have with toa this league is the reduced purple rate for solo compared to last league

[weary shadow]

I used it to death for the short time I played the last league (but baby came so other priorities) and was happy to pick it up again this league

That's crazy, you got a full odds rune helm too

[torpid trench]

its not full odds

[weary shadow]

I mean non-boned one

[torpid trench]

oh, yeah

1/6kish

[indigo nimbus]

is natures accord any good? over its counterparts 🤔

[weary shadow]

Do you have butler?

[indigo nimbus]

no butler

[tacit oyster]

finally got my masori body, only missing mega rares but i can move to do other content and maybe get megas from cox while going for ancestral

[indigo nimbus]

yeah i was planning on taking accord for herbs

[torpid trench]

Accord goated

[weary shadow]

Larc is key to the Elf zone, but if you aren't going there then it's fine to level up passively and dessert gives you both a theiving and runecrafting mini game

[torpid trench]

Took it for the herbs, love it for the teleport

[indigo nimbus]

not planning on taking tir

[winged sinew]

That's i a lot of dragons, don't it drag on for too long!

[indigo nimbus]

which areas you in?

[weary shadow]

Wait Infernal Pickaxe is not a Task ... lammeee

[torpid trench]

Kand and Mory, havent taken 3rd yet

[torpid trench]

Need visage for shield. I do not want to be here

[tacit oyster]

i guess i can spend some money on faster construction training at end of league since already got this much from bolt dupe

[winged sinew]

want*

[weary shadow]

Lol

[next dust]

2 for 1

[scenic garden]

you don't keep the items after the league

[winged sinew]

does it matter if it's on task?

wha wsa the time?'

[tacit oyster]

why is this 2 tasks

[scenic garden]

back to back

[winged sinew]

take yor points and be happy

[rare hollow]

trying to grind for a skotizo totem off task

whats the best mob i can shake down

[small whale]

can somebody explain or link how to do the onyx bolt regen pls?

[weary shadow]

Have 150% regen and shoot I guess

[rare hollow]

get the drop from doom, get like 80% regen chance minimum or something

fire rcb on the gem crab or on some mobs that you want

if you have quiver it will auto collect for you making the process 2x easier

enjoy alch stack

[small whale]

i think there's one with cox no?

[rare hollow]

yeah u can do it with the crabs

spam the crabs

[tacit oyster]

you have 80% chance for the bolt to drop on ground or with quiver to auto pickup, ammo regen gives extra bolts. In cox you can auto retaliate for 1tick crossbow on the crab puzzle, actually not sure if auto-retaliate works or have to spam click

[small whale]

perfect thanks, i just wasn't sure how to do it in cox. thanks i'll go find crabs

[scenic garden]

can also just do it on gem crab

[tacit oyster]

well gem crab is 5 or 7 tick instead of 1 tick

[small whale]

thats exactly why i didnt want to use gem

too slow

[scenic garden]

how are you 1t on CoX crabs?

[tacit oyster]

crab puzzle removes attack delay, like doom grubs

[scenic garden]

oh damn

[grave badger]

Just need guthan chain body and ahrim skirt...if I only killed the two brothers am I likely to get the pieces?

[scenic garden]

euthanasia chainbody?

[grave badger]

Edited lol

[scenic garden]

yes lol

[grave badger]

Euthanasia is hoe im feeling after 115 chests lol

[thorn marsh]

What's the fastest skilling pet to get with EH and Flow State but no Larcenist..? Beaver on teaks..?

[winged sinew]

from waht i a heard recently a lot from this channel is if you can can cooese what barrows bother will be highest chance to spawn in the chest, i feel like when i tried to get one set I should not have kept killing all 6

[rich spear]

I still need to figure out my construction solve

It's still at 50 and by far my lowest skill

Maybe I should have taken butler over transmutation

[scenic garden]

https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Elemental_balance_space

[winged sinew]

but to be fair it way too easy to beat barrows with my gear I had back then

[rich spear]

Oh that's a thing

Gotta make the hoop on a stick anyway so that works out

Why not her?

[winged sinew]

I was not done typing :/ and i am unable to do so wih my disease

[thorn marsh]

Do chins get ammo regen'd..?

[rich spear]

I wouldn't know that

[tacit oyster]

yes

[thorn marsh]

That's so silly..

Time to 50M ranged in the Monkey Caves, I guess..

[rich spear]

I assume everyone is in good health until otherwise stated

Yeah I gotta start doing that

I'm at 80 ranged

Only got that for the bowfa task

[winged sinew]

I am not saying you did anything bad

all goood

[rich spear]

(ended up getting another enhance so I made salad blade for the task anyway)

[weary shadow]

Do I need the boots first or something?

As getting dupes is not going to be fun

[thorn marsh]

For dragon and ranger boots, yes, you need to make them since you can get both of those regularly in Asgarnia..

[rich spear]

Me realizing whip will still be better if I ever decide to do one tick light weapon

[thorn marsh]

Infinity boots are the only ones that drop fully completed since you'd need Desert to get those otherwise..

[winged sinew]

back to barrows if i wanted a specific piece from a brother shouldi kill only that brother and open chest right away, kill one specifc brother and get close to 100% or all 6 as i did?

[rich spear]

With the rates I'd say kill one brother but idk about after that

[austere depot]

356 exp per build seems pretty brutal, though being stackable is really nice... 🤔

[weary shadow]

I made that mistake and now I have to get them too I guess

[vapid silo]

with evil eye, maybe

[weary shadow]

Well poop was hoping to get the gems then work on the million medium clues

[rich spear]

What's the best way to get mediums anyway? Eclectics?

[vapid silo]

the chance to get item will be much lower but overall I imagine it'll take less time with evil eye to spam just 1 brother

[thorn marsh]

Killing all 6 gives you 2.24x to get any specific item (due to getting more loot rolls in each chest), so if you can kill one brother more than twice as fast as you can kill all six, then you're probs better off just killing the one..

[rich spear]

Fally guards are kind of a non option for me

[vapid silo]

gnomes with larcenist
eclectics
afk harpie bug swarms

[austere depot]

I'm gravitating towards something like the mahogany trophy case, mostly planks with a little bit of gold leaf to speed it up without requiring billions

Was counting on getting a lot more gp while chasing the revenant drops but the rates were actually really good on task lol

[vapid silo]

didn't try it but harpy bug swarms with thorns and goading potion could be nice

oh wait u need shield for thorns

nvm

although maybe that'd still work

[gusty hare]

Any suggestions on what bolts to use for KBD xbow build?

[smoky raft]

You can absolutely do that, they just meant that you need the boots before you can use the crystals

[rich spear]

Dragon bolts, either dragonstone or onyx depending on your accessibility

[austere depot]

If you have wildy, it was pyrelord superiors, until they nerfed slayer masters mid leagues :(

[vapid silo]

if by nerfed you mean fixed, and by mid leagues you mean after 1 day

[smoky raft]

"fixed" is a weird word for it when the previous two leagues had universal slayer masters that worked just fine

[vapid silo]

oh is this not about the infinite superiors in wildy?

oh I see I guess it's not really feasible to get pyrefiend tasks anymore

[austere depot]

Nope, it's about losing access to all assignments in your regions

My bad though, I didn't even know about the infinite superiors thing so I didn't clarify

[vapid silo]

nah mb I assumed wrong

[opaque knoll]

180 yama down, 2 helm 2 chest 6 horns 490 shards. I'm going to have to mine the shale arent I, ughhhhhh it doesnt work with endless booooooooooooooooooooooo

[winged sinew]

would't it be best to get the highest chance to get a item asap by killing all to get a set or just kill guthan if i want guthan pieces?
and if just kill guthan will only his items be in the chest loot

[rich spear]

Time to learn mixology

[austere depot]

Pretty sure whichever option for barrows is faster will depend on whether you got evil eye to skip the tunnels

If not then it might be worth one-shotting the other brothers for the better rates to make each trip through the tunnels worth more chance

[rich spear]

I finished the amoxi ca's before getting the echo orb lol

[thorn marsh]

If you want a specific brother's piece, then killing just the brother you want a piece from is faster since it takes more than 2.24x as long to kill all six compared to just killing one.. If you want any complete set, then killing all six gives you a better rate of barrows pieces since it's closer to 20x to get any piece with all six killed..

The tradeoff with killing all six (beyond just the time it takes) is that you'll roll dupe pieces a lot..

[idle patio]

why does flask of fervor do like no damage to echo thermy

[rich spear]

??

I did damage to it

[idle patio]

the hit splats from flask are 60+ but the actual damage is 10-20

[rich spear]

Of course I got it more as a prayer Regen since it doesn't really damage the player like normally

[thorn marsh]

Thermy's HP overlay is bugged..

Echo Thermy has 1,200 HP, but the overlay plugin pulls from regular Thermy's HP total of 240..

The percentage is roughly correct (down to rounding by ~5 HP), but the actual number is wrong..

[idle patio]

oooohhh

I see, ty ty

[rich spear]

What determines the flask's damage because I hit like 56 each time

[idle patio]

prayer level

[rich spear]

Oh I'm not at 99 yet

[winged sinew]

I kept killing all 6 becuse I only 1 item away from completing one set, this was just a joke how bad my rng was

[winged sinew]

https://tenor.com/view/fish-spin-sha-gif-26863370

[thorn marsh]

Do you have Evil Eye..?

[winged sinew]

No

[smoky raft]

I'm not sure Yama will be happy if I complete any more tasks

[thorn marsh]

I'd probs just say to keep killing all 6, then, since you can't skip the tunnels..

The math is way more complicated when any of six different items could complete a set for you, and Evil Eye allowing you to just teleport directly to the chest is what makes it so much faster to only kill one brother..

[winged sinew]

I have finished the task a while ago but never undersotoood the number VS killing specific brother for specific loot from them

142 kc is what it took me

[toxic vortex]

I have 94 range and I've barely trained the skill itself

[winged sinew]

how did you get the xp?

[next dust]

is it impossible to pray echo cerbs ranged attack while blocking the ghosts?

i dont thinks o

such an annoying fight tho

echo hunleif is much more reasonable and easy hah

[thorn marsh]

Ranged Echoes, probs..

I had 99 Ranged just from blindbag Ranged Echos before I swapped builds to Trident..

[rocky harbor]

im trying to gather the pages for book of dead/kharedsts diary, it says you can get pages from them again but the guy aint in his house in hosi. lord kandur hosidius.

[thorn marsh]

Dece sure you get it from Artur Hosidius in Kourend Castle..

[next dust]

idk how im supposed to pray to the ghosts and dodge thge fire attack at echo cerb

[thorn marsh]

Hosidius is elected king at the end of Kingdom Divided, and the Kandur fucking dies..

[next dust]

theyre like at the exact same time

doesnt make much sense

[rocky harbor]

okay so its not his original spot, but after hes king that makes sense

[sinful hamlet]

Where can i repair my barrows armor?

[rocky harbor]

okay it doesnt make sense. there was a lot going on during those quests

[thorn marsh]

Armour Stand in your POH..

[fast bridge]

Does anyone know the breakpoints on thorns defenses?

for instance, I have 1631 defense, aka 16.31 more damage on my thorns effects

im assuming this rounds down, does it round up if i get 1651 defense?

[rocky harbor]

this guy will not give me page for book.

[next dust]

my current bossing strategy is just go to slayer master and do 5

rathert than do 100 on one boss and hatemyself

or farming for specific items yet

cause it does the same

yama cannot be a slayer task, nor nex? i assume

[late helm]

I did it at the dude in fishing trawler if you have Kandarin

[smoky raft]

I'm fairly certain it truncates- ie, you'll need to hit 1700

[rocky harbor]

i logged out/in and he finally gave me the page for book of dead.

[late helm]

Classic

[fast bridge]

Oh okay, i guess thats fine. It looks like my options are 1706 or 1631

[rocky harbor]

that has happened to me i think two times before getting things from a quest that is auto-completed. But hey.. it worked so im glad about that

at least its not the mogre camp on elite clue scrolls >,>

[next dust]

do these nodes increase your strength at all

or invisible boost

[winged sinew]

invis damage boost

[regal sedge]

I wonder how many sulpher naguas i'll have to kill for 52 rcing

[fast bridge]

3

[weary shadow]

Depends what multipler you are on

[copper gorge]

And how lucky you are.

[smoky raft]

why do you need 52-

[copper gorge]

I have 70ish nagua kills and got 3 essence drops

[regal sedge]

to do the final dawn quest

I'm at the max multiplier

[smoky raft]

yeah but why do you need 52 from nagua

do you not have any way to get essence

[regal sedge]

cause it's afk and I wont have to run ess

[weary shadow]

You can do cosmic at 27

[regal sedge]

even though it's leagues I still ain't gunna do normal rcing lel

[next dust]

im working/planning on my endgame 40ptbuild. and curious what 1 i can cut. i need to cut one.

[smoky raft]

"its afk" mfs when they spend ten times longer on a grind to save 5 clicks

[regal sedge]

I have unlimited time. So that isn't an issue.

[next dust]

do you?

[smoky raft]

does the ranged strength with an offhand equipped pact actually get you a max hit?

[next dust]

good shout, so i made this change with those

took a different route to the thorns

since i dont need that melee pact

[vapid silo]

true

[next dust]

and technically wont need prayer regen after CG too?

so take the +5 defence for thorns

[regal sedge]

prayer regen is good

[next dust]

prayer pen*

[smoky raft]

thorns damage scales on def bonuses, not level

[winged sinew]

yea

[vapid silo]

it's kinda w/e which you pick there

[next dust]

the goal is full blood torva?

with thrown weapons

getting the strength boost and defence boost

for thrown weapon damage and throns

probably my endgame kiit

i want one more pledge for my bow build tho to get the last prayer pen to do the CG grind with

[vapid silo]

you got all regions for blood torva?

[next dust]

i have Asgarnia

[vapid silo]

think you need A, D, F

[next dust]

oh ok

i do not have desert or frem

[vapid silo]

actually this might be first league where it's possible to get blorva

[narrow epoch]

Finally got a piece of the Dagon'Hai set. Final Wildy pact aquired

[next dust]

cant get it from Vardorvis and Whisperer?

[weary shadow]

Would love this rng on my main, but I am just here for the hilt...

[next dust]

wait so the sanguine is just cosmetic?

[vapid silo]

yea

[next dust]

so i just need to get full torva from nex then

oathplate from yama first tho? obvs hah

[vapid silo]

faster for sure

[next dust]

or bandos

same boosts

or just bloodmoon it lol

i think i also need to grab Vardorvis' ring drop for the str boost?

i think my next goal should be to learn Hydra and get the lance. that'll get me a ppact.

been unsure how to get my next one

has anyone gotten celestrus from echohespori?

i might have to farm it for one

[winged sinew]

the good thing about thorns being basesd on defense in your gear is probably why a lot of people picked moryrtania, very easy tanky gear to get for a thorns build

barrows speicifically

being as tanky as hell

[next dust]

hydra is just so illogical

the fight

its so confusing

[tacit oyster]

i hate alchemical hydra fight in league. over half the fihgt is damage immunity or 75% reduction

[next dust]

why does huasca here havea weird clickbox

im pretty sure for OTHER herbs the entire patch is clicckbox

but for this it's just the visual plant

[toxic vortex]

well lets find out

i have some snap plants I haven't bothered to harvest

[next dust]

excuse me game

what is that alchemical hydra icon

that doesnt seem sfw

[next dust]

huh yh lol

[toxic vortex]

is there any resource that has like, a ranking list for what I should have for blindbag?

like, this over that

[regal sedge]

It took this many kills to get 53 rcing

[shadow burrow]

I have kandrin kourend unlocked anyone know best place to smith? Closest to bank and avail

[thorn marsh]

Auburnvale in Varlamore..

[shadow burrow]

Ty

[thorn marsh]

It's one of the closest anvils in the game to a bank..

[toxic vortex]

yeah probably

its like 9 tiles or something

ezpz

[shadow burrow]

First time playing with valamore

[weary shadow]

Aside Deepfin Point but alas no sailing 🙁

[thorn marsh]

Actually factually, with Kandarin, the anvil in Port Khazard is closer to the bank chest..

[vapid silo]

https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Anvil has a list with how many tiles away from bank they are

apparently colosseum one is closer if you've unlocked it

didn't even know there's an anvil in there lol

[torpid current]

does grimoire give rigour + augury?

[thorn marsh]

How are the Inferno and Colosseum with 1t Mage builds if I want to exclusively mage..? Never done either before in the main game..

[toxic vortex]

of course

[torpid current]

ok ty just checking cuz the grimoire bugs were confusing me lol

[vapid silo]

with overheal and thorns no problem

[thorn marsh]

Rad..

[next dust]

ok im literally stuck at farming hespoti for celastrus seed then

to get kourend elite done for farming alch hydra better

[random mist]

does minion work in gauntlet

like the flask

[vapid silo]

yes

[random mist]

i cant decide which to pick then

[toxic vortex]

minion picks up items for you even if it isn't summoned

[thorn marsh]

Minion just for the automatic pickups and noting drops puts it above flask even before considering the dps..

[tacit oyster]

if you actually care about all the common drops i guess

[thorn marsh]

They're noted, so I can just drop the things I don't like with one click..

Once my inventory is full, it'll only pick up things I already have stacks for..

[toxic vortex]

tell that to the d mace drop on araxxor

[vapid silo]

heard people use it to farm for crystal keys at goraks, kinda neat

I still prefer flask tho

[thorn marsh]

Just bring alch runes..

[toxic vortex]

thats not the point though

like, why that drop does it not note

[winged sinew]

what i really don't get about the membership prices for runescape is that on mobile runescaoe 3 you can buy membership for 1,3 or 7 days
sure they are a bit more expensive if you look at cost per day, but why not on osrs, you can literally just login with your osrs on runescape 3 and just open the store and buy membership and log back into osrs

[vapid silo]

I guess it's cause you get the drop by harvesting instead of on kill

[thorn marsh]

Ah.. No clue.. I've just been destroying Araxxor for doubled pet drops..

[toxic vortex]

it works on the other drops though

[vapid silo]

truly weird then

[toxic vortex]

i still need the two hally pieces before I do that

[tacit oyster]

why do they want to farm crystal keys anyway

[thorn marsh]

Got all the uniques other than the pet in, like, 100 kc, so the pet is all I need..

[vapid silo]

for the Tirannwn task for dragonstone armor piece

[thorn marsh]

If you have Tir, wearing a piece of Dragonstone Armour is a task..

[winged sinew]

1 day membership on my alt to play leagues

XD

[potent quail]

dragonstone armor is a task

[smoky raft]

Wildy and Transmute...

[forest kernel]

I think I'm being thick... Got 92 slayer to do Araxxor but can't get the spider task from Chaeldar... I have mory and desert regions 🤔 According to the wiki it's only Turael, Spria and Krystilla who can assign spider tasks? 🤔

[rugged pike]

Hey all, whats the best endless harvest for woodcutting and fishing? I know for mining its iron ore

[smoky raft]

Ive done the math and I should have 50m prayer banked rn

[toxic vortex]

you would be wrong

[smoky raft]

every bone is worth 16,800 xp lmao

[toxic vortex]

go to duradel

[smoky raft]

araxyte tasks

[forest kernel]

Knew I was doing something wrong, thanks!

[vapid silo]

barbarian fishing > fly fishing
teaks

[thorn marsh]

One more hour until I have 50M firemaking.. ;_;

[winged sinew]

i will make my alt on leagues the most afk character ever

[vapid silo]

WT?

[winged sinew]

endless harvest larcenist, butler

[vapid silo]

I have all three of those

[thorn marsh]

Flow State forester campfire.. ;_;

I have the magic logs banked.. Just need to burn them..

[smoky raft]

not redwoods?

[winged sinew]

what regions should i pick?

[thorn marsh]

Don't have Kourend..

[tight thorn]

Okay, I don't get it - does killing more moons increase my chance at any rewards? I.e. I'm farming blue moon set, does it make sense to kill the other moons?

[vapid silo]

I just got enough magic logs for 50m as well, without flow stae tho, just afked for them for many hours

[winged sinew]

I think first skill i train is 99 theiving

[thorn marsh]

And I'm not doing fucking Mor'ton for Redwood logs..

[smoky raft]

I was expecting Transmute

[winged sinew]

like literally the first thing i train

[thorn marsh]

Nope.. I took Butler..

Which is how I already got 50M crafting and have 50M Construction banked..

[smoky raft]

If you ONLY want blue moon, no

Doing the other moons drastically increases your Misc loot, and there are tasks to equip all full sets

[thorn marsh]

And 50M herblore eventually..

Just have to wait for it..

[granite timber]

butler is 1m a day and its peak

[vapid silo]

I need to put mine on more construction I think

not sure if I got enough for 50m

[livid slate]

Thing about Butler and construction

Is that elemental balances are quicker

[vapid silo]

than building benches? I doubt that

but I may be wrong

[thorn marsh]

Runes stack..

[livid slate]

You don't need to wait for butler to fetch runes

They stack

[vapid silo]

0 downtime making garden benches with butler fetching me planks from bank

[thorn marsh]

The problem is that I don't have that many runes..

I have over 100% regen, so there's no reason for me to stack up hundreds of thousands of runes..

[crystal kelp]

XP/hr of mahogany tables will be way higher than elemental balance though, and you can time it properly so little downtime waiting for Butler to fetch

[toxic vortex]

other than the time it takes to accumulate said rune stack

[winged sinew]

friendly forager or woodsman?

[toxic vortex]

you can time it so its only a couple of ticks lost

woodsman

[winged sinew]

ok

[livid slate]

But that's what.. 7ish hours of mahogany tables and/or benches?

Average person isn't no downtiming the butler fetch for that long

Balance just need to hold 1 and click

[crystal kelp]

Tables are 1m+ XP in the main game and that's not tick perfect

[thorn marsh]

I've not even been using a butler to fetch my planks.. I just teleport to a bank and then back to my house..

[thorn marsh]

One-click teleport to Huey with Evil Eye set to Last-Destination then teleport back with POH Tele..

[toxic vortex]

this was making tables

pretty sure it was 16x

[livid slate]

So 4ish post 99

[toxic vortex]

benches are probably faster

if you don't have access to the in house butler, yeah balances are probably the play

[crystal kelp]

Previous leagues videos say 7m/hr with balances

[tight thorn]

Erm... Am I terribly unlucky, or is there a prereq for sulphur naguas to drop essence?

[livid slate]

I was getting about that earlier, so that tracks

[thorn marsh]

Demon butler is 10k gp for every 8 inventories of planks unnoted, correct..?

[opaque brook]

hey if i am doing barrows, is it worth it to get the "potential" thing to 100% or should i just be spamming chests?

[thorn marsh]

Never used a butler in main game..

[chilly pine]

no prereq, its 1/32

[crystal kelp]

Just kill 6 Bros and open chest

[austere mirage]

what does hasty rumming though leaves do?

[tight thorn]

Then just getting unlucky, ty 😄

[crystal kelp]

Opens more at once

[winged sinew]

opens more faster

[thorn marsh]

Potential is just for runes and gp in the chest.. It doesn't effect your rates for Barrows pieces..

[opaque brook]

gotcha, thanks guys

[toxic vortex]

4th rax head in 115 kc

[thorn marsh]

Opens 500 per click instead of 100..

[vapid silo]

hmm not sure what to chop for the last 10m wc xp

[thorn marsh]

Teaks, probs..

[livid slate]

Teaks with woodsman was chill af

even without endless harvest

[jovial tiger]

Maples if you have transmute so you can turn into mohog for con

[vapid silo]

I am not too concerned about speed cause I just fully afk it
so either more magics for vale totems, or mahogs for construction

no transmute

[toxic vortex]

mahog

[thorn marsh]

Magics for Vale Totems are very nice.. 50M fletching is only a few thousand logs..

[vapid silo]

yea I started doing broad bolts for fletch when there's a lot of running around for something, but it is pretty painful lol

so much clicking

while vale totems are ez

[winged sinew]

my new alt will just chop wood for the next 4 hours

[thorn marsh]

I've been sitting on Magics for a while now just for FM and fletching with totems..

[winged sinew]

idk why i made him member

[vapid silo]

Ill get more mahogs for now to save butler some trouble

[livid slate]

Abundance let me do kand rune arrows the second I got kand unlocked

[livid slate]

So I had 50m fletching done on day 1 luckily

[mighty zodiac]

is there a plugin or something to rearrange spells in spellbook

superheating is going to give me carpal tunnel

[potent quail]

How much did it cost?

[livid slate]

With abundance, I profited

Initial stack was 46m?

I didn't even sell the arrows

That was just the xp gain

[potent quail]

Oh damn thats way more expensive then i thougjt

[thorn marsh]

I need to actually bother to get some money so I can eventually get the Crystal Crown.. ;_;

There's not much else I need gp for at this point..

I guess to pay for my butler if I want to make Construction a bit faster..

[potent quail]

i mathed it costs 200 gp for 15 that give 1200 exp

so therefore for 50 mil its 1/6 of the exp needed so around 8 mil gp

but maybe i am missing something

[livid slate]

I went abundance almost exclusively to both get crystal crown early and ignore gold costs for anything

[livid slate]

Initial stack was 46m but I got 2gp per xp so I kept buying more

Abundance carried that for me

[potent quail]

mhh idk i think i am doing math wrong

maybe i am missing something, maybe people buy in bulk and that affects the price?

[livid slate]

I was doing 50 buys

I think my rune arrow stack is 293k?

[merry sphinx]

whats a better herblore solve? butler or friendly forager for me to reload into

[vapid silo]

preference

[livid slate]

Butler does it for you, albeit slower

[merry sphinx]

i feel like forager is kind of sick

[livid slate]

Forager is quicker but you do it yourself

[merry sphinx]

100% chance to save secondaries when you have the goggles on

[potent quail]

nvm herbklroe

[crystal kelp]

Forager if you want to interact with the skill, Butler just passive xp

[potent quail]

butler 20 days

• irit potions you get from butler

make irit potions with eye of newt into potions and you get 50 mil

forager does allow infinite goading potions with only 1 aldarium

[vapid silo]

how much is the irit pot XP per day? I think the free XP is around 1.1m

[livid slate]

The poorman solve for herblore is culling spree + minion into spectre tasks on repeat

[vapid silo]

irit pot is like 1.5m I think?

[potent quail]

well that would make the math work

i am jsut quoting smart people with charts

[livid slate]

I wanted to go the poorman approach and reload into endless harvest for 50m in the gathering skills, but I decided to do butler instead to solve herblore fully

Grinding for the herbs at the time felt tedious

But now that I 1shot specters, I kind of think I should've went with EH and used those drops to do herblore

[potent quail]

like herblore with no solve is just terrible

[livid slate]

It's more from a points perspective

[vapid silo]

39 irit pots (unf)/hr
3900XP/hr main game -> 62,400XP/hr at x16
1.5m XP per day
nice

[livid slate]

I traded 1800 points for 800, essentially

To avoid herblore being fully naturally trained

[thorn marsh]

What's the best way to train melee on a non-melee build..? Defense isn't that bad since I can just use Defensive Casting, but Attack and Strength 50Ms are annoying..

[vapid silo]

thorns

[toxic vortex]

^

[livid slate]

Probably thorns in mm2 caves, if you have access

2-6m xp/hr

[thorn marsh]

How do I influence what exp type I get from Thorns..?

[void robin]

Where's the best place to sell runite ore for K-T-M for cash?

[livid slate]

Based on main hand, iirc

So if you hold a whip on controlled, it's controlled

[thorn marsh]

Ah..

[potent quail]

ok i bought 50 rune arrows tips at a time for a 100k
got 400 rune arrow tips

turning them into arrows = 80k exp

so for 50 mil fletching exp it costs 62.5 mil gp

with jsut rune arrow tips (ignoring selling them back)

[thorn marsh]

What do chins count as..?

[toxic vortex]

ranged

[potent quail]

thrown ranged

[thorn marsh]

For thorns..

[livid slate]

Just range, or range/def

Oh for thorns just def

[tacit oyster]

for range weapons you need to change your unarmed to wanted style

[thorn marsh]

Ah..

[livid slate]

Sounds about right

[void robin]

Any ideas? 😄

[thorn marsh]

I've noticed that the exp I get from Thorns while using my trident sometimes changes, and I've never had any idea what caused that..

[livid slate]

Trident has mage and mage/def for xp gain

[tacit oyster]

https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Runite_ore#Shop_locations

[livid slate]

Long range is typically better given 1tick and the extra range

But it gives mage/def

[potent quail]

selling them 50 at a time gives you 42k back

so you will get 26.25 million back

For a total cost of 36.25 million gp

if you sell 10 at a time you probably get much more back

[livid slate]

I just banked my rune arrows because with abundance I've made well over max cash

[tacit oyster]

for powered staves long range is same speed as accurate

[livid slate]

But for non abundance takers, absolutely sell them for gp

[potent quail]

i science this shit out

[toxic vortex]

I have 19 magic seeds now

19 yew

3 dragonfruit

[livid slate]

woodsman and transmute let me make 50m+ worth of dragon fruit and magic seeds just by going for chin tasks 🙂

[potent quail]

if you sell 10 at a time you get 72% of the gp back

[vapid silo]

farming has been my least solved skill probably

been putting lamps in it & doing tree runs twice a day, at 38M now. can't wait to be done lol

[old tapir]

massive https://i.imgur.com/k9FtM8i.png

[thorn marsh]

I'm hoping for enough tree seeds from my 50M Fletching grind at Vale Totems to carry me most of the way for farming..

[toxic vortex]

@vapid silo ban him

now

no vote needed

[potent quail]

meaning

you buy rune arrows heads for 62.5 million gp 50 at a time

you sell rune arrows 10 at a time and you get 45 million gp back

and only payed 17 mil gp

[potent quail]

are you in zeah?

[vapid silo]

gzzzz

[thorn marsh]

Nope.. ;_;

[potent quail]

totems it is then

[tacit oyster]

Boss pet get

[vapid silo]

all the pets rn

[potent quail]

to be fair totems is quite fun

not the worst place to lvl shit

[livid slate]

I still can't believe I got three pets this league

and then got dupes of ALL THREE pets this league

[potent quail]

i am at 2 so far^^

[toxic vortex]

i haven't gotten any so far

[thorn marsh]

My boss pet was just the Abyssal Orphan.. It's the only one with an effective boosted drop rate since you can get it from the Unsired drop..

[ornate thistle]

any way to get a wrath rune with wild-asg-desert? no transmute.

Tried attacking someone at fountain of rune, didnt work.
Tried an elite clue step with monster, didnt work either.
No PVM or PVP spell worked

[toxic vortex]

dont think so

[potent quail]

1 rocky and 1 (very spooned) younglef

[vapid silo]

you'll have way more than you need probably

I still didn't get boss pet :\

[potent quail]

people are talking about a tech in wildy to get one, but no idea how it works
fountain of rune

[tacit oyster]

if you have grimoire can do sinister/demonic offering there

[ornate thistle]

no grim

[potent quail]

like later on just afk any boss, like sarachnis or KBD

[vapid silo]

idk if I have any afkable ones

[potent quail]

sarachnis?

[vapid silo]

amoxi maybe

no Z

[ornate thistle]

any mention of this tech?

[potent quail]

ah right wrong K

[livid slate]

It doesn't work as expected, iirc

But in theory

You would cast a surge on another player and you'd regen a wrath rune

And you're set

But it doesn't seem to let you regen the runes

[ornate thistle]

yeah, doesnt work

[mighty zodiac]

?!

[ornate thistle]

i tried the next level of that and forced a PVM interaction there too

[toxic vortex]

why is everyone getting boss pets rn

except me

[vapid silo]

how did like 3 people just get boss pets in the last 5 min

[tacit oyster]

who in jagex pulled the pet switch

[thorn marsh]

I think there's an Elite clue step near the Fountain of Rune that spawns an Armadyl/Bandos mob you can hit..

[potent quail]

mhh thermo? still need to click hjim though and get a task
maybe goading potions work here?

[livid slate]

I need to do a disgusting amount of mixology

[vapid silo]

I think amoxi would work

[livid slate]

I need to finish all those tasks and then buy a ton of expert potion packs

[thorn marsh]

Same.. ;_;

[vapid silo]

I am guessing I can outheal the floor stuff

[old tapir]

it takes the pet to really get a good look at his backside but

[toxic vortex]

help

[old tapir]

zuk kinda thicc?

[toxic vortex]

dont make me fight another 150 rax

please jamflex

[vapid silo]

alternatively I could do 8 second zulrah kills for one

[livid slate]

https://tenor.com/view/james-doakes-james-doakes-doakes-meme-doakes-suspicious-gif-9489819575784481578

[potent quail]

in reality though you probably have a metric tons of grinds left to do that require bossing, may get it during that

f.e. raid pet

[shadow burrow]

Any tips for smithing with kandarin and kourend? Was just saving up mithril bars but that’s gonna be a lot

[thorn marsh]

What relics do you have..?

[vapid silo]

I really don't I am at 73K points

[potent quail]

well that doesnt say much

[shadow burrow]

Transmute. Endless harvest. Woodsman

[toxic vortex]

oh, red spider eggs

neat

[shadow burrow]

Larceniest

[vapid silo]

I haven't finished vard, I guess people go pretty dry there going for drops

[thorn marsh]

If you can AFK mithril dragons reasonably, that might be your best bet..

[livid slate]

Very lmao

[shadow burrow]

I think I’d need like 8k bars for 66-90 smithing lmfao. Def doable but

[thorn marsh]

Mithrils are also a Draconic Visage and Dragon Full Helm task, so there's at least some reason to kill them anyway..

[shadow burrow]

That’s what I’m here for but didn’t realize at first I need 90 soothing for draconian visage

[potent quail]

ok before i am doing a stupid:

i will buy for 25 million rune arrow heads, region KTZ i got butler

am i missing something here on why i shouldnt do that?

[surreal kiln]

can we check somewhere how many echo KC we have?

[covert wolf]

what you trying to do?

[thorn marsh]

Areas in the Leagues menu..

[potent quail]

wait
adamant heads are 1/5th of the price and only 25% less exp

[tacit oyster]

keagues summary has total echo boss kc

[thorn marsh]

There's a tab for "Echoes" when you select a specific region, and it'll list your Echo kc..

[potent quail]

50 mil fletching exp

[surreal kiln]

[covert wolf]

i see

if i were to go after 50 mil fletching

i'll afk wc on redwood

stack those redwood

and use all the redwood on vale totem

[surreal kiln]

thanks my doods

[potent quail]

mhh that would be 825 totems

so 4125 redwood logs

[thorn marsh]

Are you accounting for the exp you get from fletching the shields..?

[potent quail]

no

[tacit oyster]

why fletch shields instead of the walking staves

[narrow epoch]

Welp, can't AFK Doom right now. May need to respec if I want to do that.

[potent quail]

671 totems with the fletching exp of shields

[next dust]

anyone doing Leagues on Kourend manage to get your celastrus seed?

i cannot get one

[cloud basin]

Bc the walking staves are shit xp...

[vapid silo]

jad pet rate is halved on slayer task right

maybe I just start hunting for tzhaar tasks and afk fight caves

[cloud basin]

It's bugged?

[potent quail]

shields do need 2 logs though

[tacit oyster]

yeah shields are more xp but requires double redwood logs

[vapid silo]

is it?

[next dust]

are you not woodsman?

[cloud basin]

That's fair

[covert wolf]

now can i achieve this before 50m wc
i hate math and i don't really care just let the exp flow in

[next dust]

are you woodsman

[tacit oyster]

if you have transmute you should 100% do shields

[potent quail]

next question
If i have the sheilds and logs ready

how long does it take to build 671 totems

[cloud basin]

No

[next dust]

sad

[rare hollow]

a while

[thorn marsh]

Shields are 10x exp/log..

[potent quail]

eh just afk redwood XD

[next dust]

broad arrows are like 40M XP/Hr

[shrewd ermine]

statistically speaking, if I want to complete this quest, am I better off doing all barrows bros or just the ones I have gear for?

[rare hollow]

do all

[shrewd ermine]

okay thought so

[covert wolf]

a while honestly

[shrewd ermine]

cause you'd have to find the tunnel

[covert wolf]

only for the dedicated

[rare hollow]

because each barrows brother set has points

not just any single

[thorn marsh]

Do you have Evil Eye..?

[cloud basin]

Already 95 fetching and have my 3 50Ms solved in farming mining and cooking (hotfoot and farming relic)

[shrewd ermine]

no

[toxic vortex]

then yeah just do all

[rare hollow]

any single set = pact points, every barrows set = more task points

[shrewd ermine]

one of my two biggest regrets with relic pics

[rare hollow]

lmao no evil eye sit nerd

[vapid silo]

I haven't regretted map at all tbh

[toxic vortex]

https://tenor.com/ggSfDfssz1y.gif

[shrewd ermine]

there's a task for all barrows?

[rare hollow]

any pvmer knows half the battle is getting to the boss itself

[next dust]

i cannot get this Celastrus seed

this is so bad

[vapid silo]

like yeah eye would have been nice for barrows but that's about it

[rare hollow]

yeah all barrows gear

basically greenlog barrows

[thorn marsh]

There's a task for each Barrows set..

[rare hollow]

can u believe gagek

[potent quail]

the math here is

a) time to get 25 million gp -> buy arrow heads -> fletch arrows -> sell arrows

vs

B) farm redwood logs -> make shields -> make totems

vs
C) farm magic logs -> make bows -> make totems

which one has the shortest time

[shrewd ermine]

interesting, this is all I see atm

[cloud basin]

I have wildy, eye is goated there

[rare hollow]

type in verac

then guthan

then ahrim

you'll see

[thorn marsh]

Search for each brother by name..

[shrewd ermine]

ohhhhhhhh

[toxic vortex]

yeah

[shrewd ermine]

interesting

[toxic vortex]

6x80 points

[shrewd ermine]

unrelated but this plugin is such a godsend

[toxic vortex]

• the one for the any set

[cloud basin]

What plugin?

[shrewd ermine]

task tracker

[potent quail]

dont forget to check for brocrag

[covert wolf]

if i were to say probably fletching arrow while running around doing something
like i saw someone fletching while waiting for cox raid and he fletch whenever going to next room

[toxic vortex]

I was using this plugin, then one day I was trying to pvm and I was getting huge tick delays and my middle mouse button was being fucky

I removed that plug-in and it stopped

[potent quail]

yes thats the benefit the fletching part is "0 time"

but the make 25 mil gp isnt

[shrewd ermine]

I have delays too ngl but idk if it's the plugin. maybe you have low bandwidth?

[toxic vortex]

no

i have 1gig fiber

[shrewd ermine]

They made an update so you can filter by skill level, so I can filter by woodcutting to show all of the woodcutting tasks

[potent quail]

also i decided i will get adamant arrows

it is 25% less exp

but only 1/5th of the price

[covert wolf]

you have no gp income?

[potent quail]

larcenist elves

[cloud basin]

That is indeed goated

[remote cove]

where is artur hosidius? cant find him in the throne room

only pandur

[covert wolf]

then what's the problem with using 25m?

spend it all

steal again

[potent quail]

need 250 mil for crown

[covert wolf]

oh yea

[shrewd ermine]

[covert wolf]

tiran thing

almost forgot

[potent quail]

and something else needed 30 mil

i forgot what

[shrewd ermine]

back in trailblazer I had to use the wiki

[covert wolf]

25m demonic throne?

[shrewd ermine]

and i dont think wikisync was a thing so you had to manually click stuff

[potent quail]

ah yeah

btw how do i turn these into money? people told me this is the big money

but how

HA seems just bad

[next dust]

how dry am i for Celastrus?

[shrewd ermine]

what are you doing that requires so much money 😭

idk the answer btw, but I have 30M+ from pickpocketing them alone

[tacit oyster]

60k each to shop, so would be 75m from the teleport seeds

[livid slate]

Crystal Crown in Tir costs 250m for 400 points

[thorn marsh]

250M for Crystal Crown in Tirannwn..

[shrewd ermine]

ahhhhhhhh

[potent quail]

need 250 mil for crown
25 mil for demonic throne
25 mil for fletching

[shrewd ermine]

i didnt know that

[vapid silo]

back in the day we had that task and the best we got for it was like, revs

[potent quail]

and a big chunk of the seeds goes into crystal crafting for smithing and crafting to 50 mil

[shrewd ermine]

yeah i did that. super nice chunk of xp

[cloud basin]

If you're not opposed to using resets you can regen bolts with 1t on crabs in cox

[thorn marsh]

What's your relics, Sparksen..?

[cloud basin]

And make mooooney like 80m a hour...

Apparently

[potent quail]

• flask

[toxic vortex]

really lame

[next dust]

yo i got it

28 kc

celastrus!

need that for elite

[livid slate]

Better stand next to it with a plant cure 🙂

At least I would

[vapid silo]

would rather pay 8 potato cacti

[tacit oyster]

or pay 8 potato cactus to protect it

[covert wolf]

plant cure? what's that?

-said the guy with nature's accord

[next dust]

nope

[livid slate]

ooo

[covert wolf]

bud come prepared lol

nice

[vapid silo]

heh, "bud"

[next dust]

do you also compost and pay?

out of habit

[covert wolf]

just pay

[next dust]

habit tho lol

[toxic vortex]

I need to do more clues today

do my thermy task

[covert wolf]

i took a break for whole day

don't feel like doing anything

[thorn marsh]

Actually factually I'd just cut Redwoods for Vale Totems.. It doesn't take that many to get to 50M fletching..

And it's completely free..

[potent quail]

eh new plan
i jsut thieve elves till 400 mil thieving exp

should give me all the money

[fleet ibex]

You can only get 200mil

[thorn marsh]

500k more FM exp until 50M.. ;_;

Nearly done.. I never have to burn a log again..

[toxic vortex]

too bad there isn't a task for a slayer helm recolor

[vapid silo]

can't even use the araxyte head for the taxidermist task

[covert wolf]

why not just afk?

[potent quail]

oh wait me stupid

for 250 mil crown

jsut sell my entire bank at the end of the league

[thorn marsh]

No Woodsman..

[frigid apex]

is minion picking up zombie pirate keys bugged?

[thorn marsh]

And no Todt.. I'm just doing Flow State on Forester Campfires..

[vapid silo]

anyone remember the crystal crown shop stock panic during shattered relics league

[thorn marsh]

Just need to cut ~300 more magic logs to have 50M fletching banked..

[vapid silo]

it has insanely long restock time so people thought every world would be sold out at the end

stores weren't instanced back then

[copper gorge]

I am doing echo thermy now with water thorns and not much prayer pen. 4.5 to 5.5 minute kills. Just need the staff

Let me tell you how ridiculous that fight is on mobile.

[covert wolf]

huh...?
make a fire camp then put some log to the fire

[thorn marsh]

Do you have any ranged weapon you can hit it with..?

[covert wolf]

i actually did some afk firemaking today

[thorn marsh]

Just need to attack it for it to swap prayers.. You don't need to deal damage..

It'll pray against whatevs it was attacked with last..

[covert wolf]

oh i was late to read that

mb

[thorn marsh]

5 minutes per kill sounds agonizing..

[covert wolf]

forget i said anything

[copper gorge]

Yeah, i tried the range switch. Sometimes thorns procs so it turns to melee. But switching isnt exactly the easiest on mobile.

Theres some pretty ruthless lag with these league servers.

[thorn marsh]

Ah, yea, mobile would make that annoying..

[copper gorge]

Hitting the exact spaces on mobile is hard enough 🤣

Nothing like getting smacked for a 61 because i miss click by a tile.

[toxic vortex]

I didn't realize I'd be better off keeping pray pen for that

[copper gorge]

Yeah i really effed my builds up. I had a great air build that i scrapped for water thorns. And then missed the whole thorns node entirely.

[thorn marsh]

I've got Gorillas and Hunleff (just to farm for low-effort alchs), so I'm never swapping off my Prayer Penetration build..

[copper gorge]

Had to do echo amox with basically no damage and no thorns.

[next dust]

ugh i need to do a CoX raid for the elite diary

ive never done a raid

[potent quail]

well now is the time^^

[copper gorge]

Youll be aight.

[thorn marsh]

Leagues is a great time to learn raids.. It's much more forgiving since everyone's builds are so busted..

[next dust]

but solo?

idk lol

mine isnt that busted hah

im tryna GET my build brokenm

but idk what pact to go for rn. been going for DHunter Lance. and wanted elite to not need stone boots

[void robin]

Does bake pie lunar spell work for the pie tasks?

[thorn marsh]

It does not..

[void robin]

thank god I checked

ty ❤️

[void robin]

And I have to make them from scratch with flour, yes?

[thorn marsh]

That's what I did.. 100 pies doesn't take that long..

I had access to a shop that sells flour, though..

[void robin]

Yeah thankfully I did too

I was just initially irked about having to fill water but then I remembered lunars

[tacit oyster]

aldarin shop sells pot of flour but everything else have to do yourself

[void robin]

but before I remembered lunars, I remembered sire drops jugs

thankfully 0 timed the jugs during my sire grind c:

what's the fastest range to get to from a bank in K-T-M? 😮

[thorn marsh]

Myths' Guild..

[tacit oyster]

people "learn" raids by afking with water mage

[thorn marsh]

Range literally adjacent to a bank..

[void robin]

legend ty

[cyan cobalt]

I’m in this post and I don’t like it

[winged sinew]

not true

they do learn if they pay attention to the mechanics in the fight

[thorn marsh]

I learned a lot about ToA back in Leagues 4 when I had the mage relic that guaranteed max hits on targets with full HP that allowed you to completely skip the boulder mechanic in Ba-ba's fight.. /j

[dense forge]

Tbf how much you learn depends on how much you try to learn

[winged sinew]

how much you pay attention

[next dust]

i do not understand chem hydra at all

im 100% just shooting and tanking

the attacks are NOT clear what the prayer is

[winged sinew]

then you don't learn

[next dust]

i cant really learn from the fight itself

[surreal kiln]

1 spike is range

[winged sinew]

but you can learn

[next dust]

it's 100% a youtuber boss lol

[surreal kiln]

3 things are magic

[tacit oyster]

yeah alot of people who say they want to learn cox just sadly end up afking whole olm fight because mechanics and head running are too much

[surreal kiln]

🤣

[next dust]

alch hydra is for youtuber views

[winged sinew]

i learned how to deal with coruppted hunlif and his attacks

[next dust]

thats actually fine

and reasonable

[winged sinew]

how to manage the listen for his switching

[next dust]

it has distinct attack animations

[winged sinew]

whne he makes a sound

[toxic vortex]

oh nice

[winged sinew]

where to walk

[toxic vortex]

I got the desert goat horn drop from thermy

[next dust]

i find echo hunleif and cg hunleif not that bad

[thorn marsh]

Echo Hunleff is easy..

[winged sinew]

yeah he is

[thorn marsh]

With 100% prayer penetration..

And 1t powered staff attacks..

[winged sinew]

i think i can beat him without too

[tacit oyster]

hydra they are same color, you are just expected to think the spiky one is ranged attack

[thorn marsh]

Literally the only thing to remember is to just click off prayer occasionally when it uses the Echo-unique attack..

[tacit oyster]

i guess people can use projectile overried plugin to make them more noticable but that wont fix to default learning problem

[toxic vortex]

oooof, 1/50 on the echo orb from thermy??

[surreal kiln]

huh

ppl use too much plugins

[winged sinew]

people do learn, but only if they want to learn the mechanics and not just afk

[next dust]

idk how youre supposed to learn lach hydra mechanics tho?

[surreal kiln]

its visible what the shot is on hydra

[next dust]

theyre like 100% invisible mechanics

[thorn marsh]

Trying to kill Zulrah when I was still in my fucking Blindbag build has convinced me that it's not a hard fight in the main game..

[surreal kiln]

I just drag hydra on the grid

🤣

I dont know how ppl found out what colour does what

[winged sinew]

I think what they meant about learning, more like hard pvm like tob

and toa

[thorn marsh]

I did actually learn how to read the rotations, and I have the first few swaps in each rotation actually memorized now..

[next dust]

zulrah is easier to figure out

[surreal kiln]

uh no

[livid slate]

Question for you, since I know you took asg

[tacit oyster]

hydra doesnt have 75% damage reduction that must have been correct vent

[livid slate]

How was the ranger boot grind for the cerb boot pact point?

[next dust]

i dont have them

[thorn marsh]

I've been worried about Zulrah for my main game iron for the Hard WP Diary task since I've only ever killed it on a main, but that was before it was given a Fire weakness too..

[surreal kiln]

ye lmao

[winged sinew]

just get the ranger boots

[surreal kiln]

I got my rangers today

[winged sinew]

it's 50/50

[surreal kiln]

193 kc

just get it

[livid slate]

I wanting to make an alt that is WAZ and go the KB build, but I don't want to have to take the clue relic

[next dust]

but how do you know he has damage reduction or not

and how to know what to pray

[surreal kiln]

he takes way less dmg

[livid slate]

And without Kand/Tir Larc has no value

[surreal kiln]

and you pray whatever he attacked you

swaps every 3 hits

[next dust]

idk how to tell what hes attacking with

they all look the same

[surreal kiln]

its not a rocket science

try zooming in

[surreal kiln]

and not play it like GTA2

[winged sinew]

it's not that difficult

[thorn marsh]

Without Larcenist, what's the best way to train Thieving in KMT..? Just stealing valuables in Civitas..?

[livid slate]

You went the best three regions for larcenist

Without larcenist

[surreal kiln]

[thorn marsh]

I'm aware, and I was tempted to Reload for it, but Flow solved more 50M tasks..

[surreal kiln]

solved? this early?

you didnt need to solve 50M

if you cant solve 99

[static arch]

Did someone say [Thunderfury, Blessed Blade of the Windseeker]?

[livid slate]

Normal thieving is your best bet, unfortunately

[surreal kiln]

you chose suffering

[livid slate]

So do ardy elite and do ardy knights normally prob

People who didn't take larc took a region like wildy

With a 4m/hr thieving method

[static arch]

Getting enough Blood Shards with Flow is going to be rough for you, tbh.

[thorn marsh]

Larcenist solved a single 50M that I didn't already have solved (Butler for Crafting and EH/Hotfoot for Smithing).. Flow saved multiple dozen of AFK hours combined on Fletching, Smithing, Fishing, Cooking, FM, and WC..

[surreal kiln]

and thats the cope, Larcenists solves way more than 1 99 skill

and you already AFK those skills

[merry sphinx]

in tiran

[shadow burrow]

Does mory have any good smithing strats?

[surreal kiln]

suffering

[merry sphinx]

just kill mosters and use their bar drops instead of smelting

[static arch]

Butler also solves Smithing. Larceny, with Tiranwnn, solves Smithing and Crafting, too, but I went Butler because I don't think I'm taking T for my last area.

[shadow burrow]

Suffering?

[static arch]

Larceny also solves 200m Fletching

[surreal kiln]

yeah, morytania doesnt give you anything tbh for smithing

[merry sphinx]

how

[cyan cove]

what am i missing here? still getting hit pretty hard using water thorns

[shadow burrow]

How?

[surreal kiln]

money?

[thorn marsh]

Butler can't solve every skill, and it's going to take most of the league with the butler sitting on Herblore to get the 50M for that one..

[surreal kiln]

🤣

[static arch]

Funds Woodsman fletching.

[merry sphinx]

ah money i got you

[livid slate]

Larcenist solves 50m thieving, 200m non combat, 99, 25m, 35m, 50m crafting & smithing and 50m in three non combats due to that, crystal crown, fletching (gp at ranging guild), blood shard task and upkeep, the entirety of all cluescroll tasks due to kand having meds, hards and elites thieveable and probably many more

[thorn marsh]

I've already used it for Crafting and banking the planks for Construction.. I didn't have time to have it also solve Smithing..

[lone bloom]

loot from 99 herblore using butler only. never made a potion other than for the make x potion tasks

[surreal kiln]

with kandarin you have EVERY scroll with larcenist

[winged sinew]

butler solved my life

[shadow burrow]

How yall making money with larcenist?

[merry sphinx]

tbh we're not sweating for top 100 it doesnt really matter its a game mode for fun

[lone bloom]

thief elves

[surreal kiln]

thiev?

[cyan cove]

yall think a Dh helm would help

[surreal kiln]

anything high lvl is gp dump

[static arch]

Sure. If you want 50m herblore. But 2 days of Butler got me 99 crafting, a week and a half or so has gotten me almost 99 smithing.

[shadow burrow]

What if I don’t have elves

[winged sinew]

even mining?

where you don't spend money

[winged sinew]

how does that work?

[surreal kiln]

larcenists afk

[winged sinew]

oh

[surreal kiln]

infinite money glitch

[winged sinew]

yea

[toxic vortex]

Sweet

thermy echo orb

[surreal kiln]

glgl

[static arch]

larceny also solves clues, something I forgot about til last night

[shadow burrow]

Paladin It is

What clues do paladins give?

[surreal kiln]

saying larceny solving one skill is big cope

Hard

[livid slate]

larcenist is the strongest relic this entire league, unfortunately

It's probably not gonna return or get nerfed for next, given that

[surreal kiln]

yeah

I will miss it dearly

and put it next to banknote

[static arch]

Oh, Butler also gives fletching xp from planks instead of CON, for some reason

[livid slate]

rip banknote

[static arch]

xD

[merry sphinx]

banknote and high alch what a game

[surreal kiln]

I felt great betrayal when I had that

[shadow burrow]

I really hate that smithing sucks. I didn’t take hotfoot or butlers bell. I may end up just having to smelt gold ore for 90

[tacit oyster]

he fletches every log into a plank, wish we could do that in main game too

[static arch]

It's weaker than it was in previous iterations, and it was broken then, too.

[surreal kiln]

can you get gold gloves?

[shrewd ermine]

what's the best route for doing barrows? I just bank heist to start, run this route, tp out of the maze/dungeon and rinse and repeat. not sure if it's worth more to try to find the exit or not

[surreal kiln]

it is not weaker

its actually stronger now

before it was AoE looting

[livid slate]

They're referring to dodgy deals' AoE

[cyan cove]

not taking endless harvest had to of been the biggest L of the league for me

[surreal kiln]

yeah

but 10x

is way stonger than anything you could do

with it before

[merry sphinx]

25 rumours and no quetzal whistle 💔

[livid slate]

I know that feeling, I took abundance, but it did have it's value for sure

[surreal kiln]

on high value targets

[static arch]

I suppose it's stronger specifically vs. elves, but it's weaker in the other places where you could AoE more than 10x due to 11+npc's