leagues-general

[shrewd ermine]

with pacts and stuff

[amber sleet]

wdym before the other 3 spawn?

[shrewd ermine]

iirc in wave 68, 1 jad spawns, then 2 more spawn after unless im mistaken

[amber sleet]

67 is 1 jad

68 is 3 jads

[tacit oyster]

wave 67 is 1 jad, once that dies wave 68 begins with 3 jads

[amber sleet]

there's two separate waves

u can logout in between if u need time

imo i would recommend if u haven't you go do the challenges up to like 6 jad maybe before u send inferno just to make sure u dont whiff 3 jads

[shrewd ermine]

I beat the tripple jad challenge already, but there's also a good chance I mess it up LOL. obviously I know to just stay calm and stuff but mistakes happen

[amber sleet]

after doing 6 jad the triple jad wave was piss for me

even triple jad challenge is technically harder than the inferno 3 jad because they have a faster attack timing

[shrewd ermine]

ah then i should be fine. im just hoping to clear inferno real quick for an extra pact point

for leagues I dont need to worry about pillars right?

[amber sleet]

what build are you

and did you take flask?

[shrewd ermine]

water mage + a bit of thorns

[amber sleet]

so

[regal sedge]

I'm working on the gear needed for afk inferno lel

[shrewd ermine]

wave 49, no food or pots

[amber sleet]

for reference i first tried inferno as someone who has never touched inferno on main

and i am blindbag

and i lost all my pillars at wave 19

but i had flask

so that saved me a few times

if u are water thorns u probably dont need the pillars, but it should also be easier with your build to clear the nibblers because u have access to aoe options

[shrewd ermine]

aoe like wat?

[simple marsh]

with water mage you can no joke just pray one style and still be fine

[amber sleet]

lithic, fire spells, thorns

barrages if u took desert/grim

[shrewd ermine]

i just realized ignoring pillars are prob easier

[amber sleet]

i literally went in there with no swapouts

[shrewd ermine]

cause I can just focus range off the bat

[amber sleet]

just my halberd and blindbag weapons

and my flask

no other consumes

and i did it in 1 try

that's how much leagues pacts make it piss

[shrewd ermine]

hopefully i do the same :)

[simple marsh]

are you doing it with staves or elementals

[shrewd ermine]

both

[long trail]

im pretty sure

[amber sleet]

ngl

[long trail]

not having pillars is more helpful

on a thorns build

[shrewd ermine]

it kinda is lol

[amber sleet]

crystal is cool and all but if u are thorns u probably would've had a lot easier time going with tank gear

esp for inferno where u are getting attacked a lot by stuff that can chunk you

[shrewd ermine]

i just had K and T at the time

[long trail]

absolutely

barrows as a minimum if mory

[livid slate]

You're super overdue for shadowflame quad from echo thermy

[amber sleet]

if u put on like barrows gear and just camp range up until mager spawns and camp mage once magers spawn

[livid slate]

You definetly have the gear to get that done easily

[amber sleet]

u probably can't even die

[shrewd ermine]

yeah, my slayer is super low lol

i was working on zulrah but I got bored

[livid slate]

You got slayer relic?

[shrewd ermine]

yeah

[simple marsh]

yeah the quad makes tzhaar content a joke

[livid slate]

Do tasks with superiors exclusively

[shrewd ermine]

alright

got to clear my 100 zulras first 😭

[long trail]

is doing echo gg like elite exp farm or what

[livid slate]

I'd say skip it if you can tbh

[simple marsh]

I afked a full fight caves while I was smoking last night lmfao

[long trail]

1m30 kc for 52k exp per kc

[shrewd ermine]

i mean it was a 200 task and I want to do the elite

[livid slate]

Superiors will always be better xp than boss tasks

Exception is probably zuk tasks

[long trail]

oh fr

[shrewd ermine]

tghere's a 300 kill zulrah task

[long trail]

is there a superior gargoyle?

[simple marsh]

ye

[livid slate]

With slayer relic you can get superiors that do 60k xp per kill

Chain that b2b you can get hundreds of thousands of xp in like 2 minutes

[simple marsh]

I think hydra was the only exception I found to this

[cunning oar]

does a super defence pot stack with the regen earth defense+ pact?

[livid slate]

46,400 for stronghold superior bloodveld slayer xp wise

I've gotten chains of like 3-5 before easily

[keen stone]

what misc items do i need to bring with me for cox? i dont remember, only completed it during gridmaster

[simple marsh]

my best superior streak was a b8b

[livid slate]

Boss xp farm should be 5 boss kills for completion xp

[simple marsh]

but it was cockathrice early game

[long trail]

switches? olm is tanky

[keen stone]

also dear jagex please remove the dagon hai robes tasks

[keen stone]

u dont need like an axe or pickaxe or anything like that?

[long trail]

if u do guardians u need a pick

or u can use the bronze inside but that will be shit

[livid slate]

You can thorns guardians

[long trail]

there u go if thorns no need for a pick at all then

[keen stone]

i am bbc

[simple marsh]

how likely am I to clear a blind cox when I get home today

[long trail]

ok so no thorns

[livid slate]

oof

[long trail]

a rune picky would do the job

[simple marsh]

No knowledge besides tangential from videos

[shrewd ermine]

is there a way for me to just highlight every mob tile in runelite?

[long trail]

and then axe is provided + u dont really need anything better than the bronze it gives

[shrewd ermine]

without doing it manually?

also i'm getting close

[amber sleet]

u mean for inferno?

[shrewd ermine]

in general tbh

[amber sleet]

idk, usually you need to type their name into the filter if you want to do it without having the mob in front of you to right click

not sure if there's a tag every single mob in the game function

also i don't know if u would really want that because it would probably look horrible

[simple marsh]

is there a plug-in for it maybe?

like the regular fight caves rotation one

[shrewd ermine]

well that didn't last very long

[amber sleet]

oof

[shrewd ermine]

i thought the max hit was 75

[livid slate]

Do you not have the other two overheal pacts?

[pure karma]

brother thought he was him

[simple marsh]

I tick eat those.jpeg

[shrewd ermine]

just that one

[amber sleet]

zuk's max hit is most definitely not 75

[shrewd ermine]

oh

[coarse geode]

think you need all the overheals to tank those

[coarse geode]

ok just 2

[simple marsh]

go get the quad and the overheals and camp 190 hp

[livid slate]

You can't bait the thorns reflects unless you have the 188 hp from pacts

[shrewd ermine]

i didn't even mean to bait thorns LOL

I just thought I had the range to hit behind the rock

[livid slate]

Also put your staff to long range

[shrewd ermine]

and keep it there or just have it on the whole time?

[livid slate]

Can't hit outers with powered staff outers iirc

Uh, I used it on longrange until 50m def xp

But especially there

[shrewd ermine]

well on the bright side I can afk inferno for half the wave

[short cave]

what are people doing for 99 farming with priff/kand/asg?

[shrewd ermine]

until I get to magic + rangers

[little wraith]

tithe farm

[shrewd ermine]

tree runs

[livid slate]

Normally farming

[shrewd ermine]

not zeah

[simple marsh]

tithe > fruit

wait no

Just fruit for you

[amber sleet]

isn't tithe zeah?

[shrewd ermine]

it is

tree runs is ur best bet for farming

[amber sleet]

just do trees unless you have the mushroom

mushroom makes herbs bis i think

[shrewd ermine]

i just realized does long range vs accurate matter for powered staff since it's 1 tick regardless?

[short cave]

sorry im dumb wym by mushroom

[ruby lion]

are voidwaker pieces bugged? everyone going 10x dry on 1/70 pieces

[little wraith]

not usually

[livid slate]

long range is staff +3 invisible defense and 2 more tiles of range I think

[livid slate]

Rapid is +3 invisible mage?

[short cave]

oh i do not have that relic

[shrewd ermine]

right. just wasnt sure what the tick speed of it was.

cause if it is 1tick then it doesnt matter and is only better

[little wraith]

+1 mage +3 def for long +3 mage for rapid

[livid slate]

Should always be 1

[little wraith]

no speed difference

[shrewd ermine]

ah

[amber sleet]

tree runs are the way, then

[shrewd ermine]

okay cool

[short cave]

how do you get tree seed supplies though? ive been farming zulrah but drop rate is pretty low

[little wraith]

vale totems

[livid slate]

larcenist + transmute is my solve

Not sure on your relics

vale totems is good too

[short cave]

larcenist, woodsman

master farmer pp seems bad tho since seeds arent great

vale totems then?

[livid slate]

Masterfarmers for me is because I can transmute to dragonfruit and magics

[shrewd ermine]

^

[livid slate]

Other than that it's not that great

[shrewd ermine]

or woodsman

hunt and earn seeds

[short cave]

how good is hunter for seeds though

[livid slate]

Every catch is 1 random seed

So chins is prob your best bet

With woodsman that is

[short cave]

is it weighed towards lower level seeds though?

[livid slate]

Based on farming level

Kinda like wintertodt iirc

[amber sleet]

master farmers dont give tree seeds though do they?

[livid slate]

acorns are oaks

[crystal kelp]

I don't think they give acorns

[livid slate]

Oh you're right

I think I did them to get snapes

[short cave]

okay so im gonna max out slayer on zulrah (300k from 99) then ill go chinning

zulrah cuz magic seeds

[cobalt cloud]

almost 250 kc without a lance. I feel that picture... and dread it lol

[potent quail]

errrrrrmmmmmmmmmmm

i broke the dupe protection at wintertodt

[livid slate]

Remember kids

It can always be worse

[potent quail]

wait nvm

[short cave]

whats your kc rank lol

[potent quail]

gloves dont count for the set

[crystal kelp]

oof

[cobalt cloud]

i cant upload pics, likely because i never interact here usually... but if i could show my drops for alch hydra, it would be pain as well

[short cave]

i got into top 100 kc for zulrah today lol

[simple marsh]

I got the dhl in like 40 KC

It’s not that hard

Just get the drop

[cobalt cloud]

i will punt you like a gnomeball, you watch your mouth XD

247kc without lance, but 3 gloves and 4 necklaces

[lament crater]

did pacts just get messed up or something? My pact to restore health/prayer upon 0 hit suddenly stopped working

[little wraith]

NO

damn it

[merry sphinx]

im at 57199 glory idk how to get it to 58k without taking those shit debuffs at the start

[livid slate]

You got an offhand on?

[merry sphinx]

always skip frailty

and the defense one

[lament crater]

im an idiot i unequipped my offhand

[next dust]

i just had a look at my jones and what i can do

i can make a SPICY thrown weapons build

running the melee damage boosts it.

[next dust]

and getting full Torva

[pure karma]

i just wanteda weapon

[merry sphinx]

master clue requires full blue moon, elite clue requires dragon spear im so cooked

[cobalt cloud]

yknow, do the blowpipes synergize with any of the ranged pacts?

[next dust]

they are Thrown weapons

[amber sleet]

which weapon are u gonna use?

[little wraith]

thrown pacts

[next dust]

Dragon Darts, or Knives, and maybe Blowpipe if im feeling spicy

[cobalt cloud]

ok good. and yeah, im also loving the kq echo blowpipe

[amber sleet]

just dont use atlatl because it already scales with melee so it doesn't double dip

[little wraith]

lame

[cobalt cloud]

already gotten the fire pacts earlier on for easier slayer tasking

[cobalt cloud]

gotcha

[next dust]

like dis

for what my current 29 points have available

this is so useless

why does this pact EXIST

[cobalt cloud]

i also dont wanna touch the crossbow one that reduces your speed in half XD

[simple marsh]

I’m using dragon knives to 99 range with 0 range pacts rn and still getting 3.5m hr

[next dust]

i dont rly need xp haha

[simple marsh]

I just mean as a dps reference

[cobalt cloud]

aside from thieving, kinda regretting not taking larcenist now, every other skill has been fast

[livid slate]

I think it works in both directions, so king's barrage with ice spell water healing gives more ranged str

[next dust]

no

asgarnia, zeah, prif

[simple marsh]

+9 ranged strength with max overheal

[amber sleet]

iirc some guy tested and it didnt do anything at either end

[next dust]

no kings barrage for me!

[livid slate]

OOF

[next dust]

but no ranged perks heal you

[amber sleet]

but maybe they fixed it?

[next dust]

the only healing perks work with an offhand or magic

[merry sphinx]

alright dragon spear pls

[simple marsh]

KBD xbow water pacts

[next dust]

xbow has enough

[livid slate]

They don't have wildy

[simple marsh]

I know, just pointing out how it works in the larger view

[amber sleet]

i love when the farming patch i'm picking grows weeds the exact game tick after i finish picking it

[glacial ridge]

i picked cunning clues and have 500 clues total, is there a way to see all clue tasks? is there a lsit or somethin?

like what to equip, eat and such

so i know when to stop opening and what to do with the loot

[amber sleet]

if u have clue relic u dont need to equip anything no?

or am i misremembering

[glacial ridge]

no i mean out of the rewards

[next dust]

so im still on the bow build atm

i think i run this through and take out the Gauntlet stuff first

before spending a respec

1 more pact and i can get 100% prayer pen so

[simple marsh]

wiki task list

[glacial ridge]

yea but theres 1k tasks to look through, can i not see a list or something with only clue tasks

[simple marsh]

ctrl+f “equip”

[next dust]

which to do:

Equip any godsword
Equip bowfa / blade of salad
Defeat nex solo
Dragon hunter lance
Equip 1 piece of Ancestral
Equip Primordial, Pegasion, AND Eternal, or Avernic (Max)
Fortis (Wave 12)
Infernal Cape
Doom delve 8
Avernic threads
Awakened Vardorvis
Tzhaar League-Only Challenge
Chambers of Xeric Normal/Challenge 25 times
Bellator Ring
Full Oathplate

[simple marsh]

Sort by requirements

[simple marsh]

echo hun until bowfa

[next dust]

well see, a single additional point will boost me to 100% prayer pen

making that better

[simple marsh]

Yeah, it’s not ‘free’ with prayer pen but close to it

[crystal kelp]

inferno cape

[simple marsh]

fast kills with no prep too so

[next dust]

i mean up until prayer pen i was killing it with the INTENDED method

speccing with dagger

to remove the protection

[simple marsh]

that sounds awful tbh

[next dust]

then you gotta whack it once

as it will pray the first style hit by

so you gotta spec dagger

hit dagger once

then switch

[simple marsh]

I took the cowards way out and didn’t even look at cg until I had 1t staves and full prayer pen

[next dust]

im bow

im playing the game see

./s

[simple marsh]

I’m at the prison rn in maingame so I wasn’t intending to spend any longer than necessary

[amber sleet]

does default build mode setting just not work?

[next dust]

i could try to learn yama LOL.

that full oathplate would be the set to go for with the build plan

[amber sleet]

im tping to my house and it is putting me in not build mode

[simple marsh]

how do you like the recurve

[next dust]

very nice

slaps

i do not need prayer potions lol

[simple marsh]

same but thorns

[next dust]

just dont stand on the shit on the ground /s

[simple marsh]

unironically got my first few echo amox kills by moving less

[next dust]

maybe i just get this done?

onto the hard one tho now

6

attempt 1: 0 killed
attempt 2: 1 killed

im playing bow

i do have to play the game

[tawdry carbon]

how do you accomplish this? ive dismantled all my zulrah uniques

[simple marsh]

the immediate attempt one attempt two was too good

[next dust]

i mean attempt 3: 0

[sand rock]

What's the most regen you can get?

[simple marsh]

💀

[tawdry carbon]

oh nvm

i goti t

[simple marsh]

Max thorns + max water

idk if that’s true but it feels like it

[next dust]

eternal sustenance

[sand rock]

oh i mean like most regen% of ammo and runes

[next dust]

combo eat bwana and fishy forever

lolol

and just let minion play

[formal gulch]

Phosani's Nightmare? More like pleasant dreams!

[simple marsh]

anything over 100 is redundant

[potent quail]

just filter the tree for the word regen and count?
all the pact website make that easy

[next dust]

hm. so im not really dying to the jads on 6? the minions for some reasond o a lot more damage? im confused LOL

[potent quail]

wrong

lol

[amber sleet]

the jads should be a lot more accurate than the healers but maybe you're getting unlucky

[next dust]

cause the idea is just to tank the healers lol

[amber sleet]

though with a maxed thorns tank build im pretty sure jad ranged hits still only have like 40% chance to hit

[next dust]

im praying correctly

i gotta do that

[potent quail]

probably one of Huskys first clarifications:

Regeneration can go above 100% and will not be wasted
At 100% regeneration you will not lose runes/ammo, at above 100% you'll start profiting them
it also affects all pacts that reference regen

[simple marsh]

I mean, technically yeah, but functionally it’s redundant

[amber sleet]

oh yeah ur bow right?

in that case u need to probably kill the healers 1 at a time if u aren't comfortable moving to repos them while praying 6 jad

[potent quail]

so if a spell regens 10 water runes
and you have 200% regen
you gain 20 water runes and trigger the "when you regen a water rune" pact 20 times

[next dust]

why would i move to repos?

i just tank em

the bow does do some healing

[potent quail]

seems not redundant to me

[amber sleet]

because you can make it so only 1 is attacking you at a time

[next dust]

the recurve can outdamage the healers

[amber sleet]

ok

then why were you saying the healers are killing you

[next dust]

i have an idea

minion

is multi attacking

make him single

[simple marsh]

I’m not doing the math, but I’m sure there’s a point between 100 and 200 that the regen has, at least, diminishing returns

[next dust]

he wont attack the healers now

sorry minion

ur single now

[potent quail]

why?

the increase is always linear of the base amaount

[simple marsh]

cause of the healing you get back from the water capstone

[potent quail]

the water capstone does not interact with regen at all

[covert night]

is there a j mod in a player boat in leagues world?

[amber sleet]

i mean i guess if you are talking relative to your current effective healing rate, yes there are typically diminishing returns from linear increases from a percentile point of view

[covert night]

like messing around with people?

just saw a player boat

[next dust]

super cheating

[simple marsh]

Ik, but you can only heal so much

[potent quail]

probably? is he doing something spezial or is he just existing

[potent quail]

so the problem is to much healing?

[spring cipher]

+1 pact point

[potent quail]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-no-oh-no-anyway-gif-18887547

[simple marsh]

Sure it wasn’t the merchant boat?

[covert night]

100% was a player boat

[next dust]

idk why it feels like jad specifically has prayer pen during this fight hah

[covert night]

i just saw him sail by kourend

[simple marsh]

my steak is too juicy and lobster too buttery

[tawdry carbon]

-- boosted drop rates --

[obsidian bluff]

Wiki links found:
https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/_boosted_drop_rates_

[simple marsh]

your name changes keep screwing me up

but I appreciate your commitment to anti-condensation

[short cave]

can u get slayer cape?

am i blind or can i not see it in duradel shop

[regal spindle]

will i get the melee only jad C.A. with thorns on?( only real takers who actually tried this and aren't just guessing)

[simple marsh]

now that is a good question

I don’t have an answer though

send it and find out

[round mirage]

im actually about to try that grind, i can report back in a bit

[simple marsh]

Report back

[amber sleet]

i do not have thorns but i do have ranged echos as blindbag and i can say they do not fail the challenge

so considering thorns is specifically melee damage

my guess is it works

(but im not sure)

[round mirage]

also just got this, the "I brought mine too" CA. but how...... thorns is hally damage?

[amber sleet]

was the last melee weapon you held one of those kinds?

cause iirc thorns goes based off the style of your current melee

maybe somehow it remembered

[round mirage]

no idea, been using that staff all day

last melee weapon i used was probably rapier

definitely not a hally

[amber sleet]

idk then

[round mirage]

since that will remove my thorns dmg

[amber sleet]

spaghetti

[round mirage]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

but thorns was screwing up my triple jad challenge, the one that forces 3 combat styles

[simple marsh]

wiki says the quad has a melee range of 8 tiles even though it has no melee option

Mechanically it might read as a halberd

[amber sleet]

what the fuckers

[round mirage]

thats hilarious

wait but... ive been doing this build for 10KC

how come i get it on this one

been using the same build

actual spaghetti code

[simple marsh]

Maybe more thorns damage than magic so it read as melee?

no idea just spitballing

[round mirage]

but that CA is "only" hally, meaning you cant just finish with it right?

[simple marsh]

hally soear or hasta

And it’s not only

[round mirage]

maybe i splashed all my spells on this KC

[simple marsh]

Just beat sol with it

[round mirage]

and thorns is "hally" dmg

[summer verge]

I just dropped a draconic visage - any good use for one?

[simple marsh]

dragon fire shield

[amber sleet]

dfs

[simple marsh]

yw

[round mirage]

its a lot of points...

im jealous

[summer verge]

thank you!

[amber sleet]

big task + bis shield for thorns build

aside from ely or dinhs maybe

[next dust]

and defender

avernic defender?

[simple marsh]

is it really bis?

[next dust]

if you need str boost

[round mirage]

200 points to make it, another 200 to wear it

[next dust]

is Avernic Hilt available if you get one of the Omega Rare Drop Things from a different raid (not tob)?

the leagues only things

[simple marsh]

I haven’t done any raiding yet, but historically it was just for the mega rares

[amber sleet]

yeah it's better total than anything else even ely now that im looking on the wiki

only dinhs is better but that prevents having a main hand

[summer verge]

I guess crafting that will get me my last relic 😄

[next dust]

sad guess dragonfire shield is my bis

[spring cipher]

the megarare scroll is only for tbow scythe and shadow

[next dust]

as avernic is +1 higher

[simple marsh]

Does the door count as a Blindbag weapon?

that could be a fun build

[amber sleet]

yes

it is a heavy 2h

it gets 2 tile range and can proc blindbag

[simple marsh]

Bluetooth blindbag door thorns

[opaque brook]

anyone out here a certified nerd and could answer questions?

[amber sleet]

knowledge isn't universal

you need to ask your question and then someone can maybe answer

[opaque brook]

i didnt wanna flood the chat with noob questions lol. but ill give it a go

[simple marsh]

reporting for duty

[opaque brook]

i am about to unlock my last region and tier 7 relic origionally i was thinking about going mortania because i have never really done much there, but im a bit scared of the raid stuff. should i send it or will i feel like im out of content after a couple days there?

[simple marsh]

what are your other regions + pact build?

[amber sleet]

what is your build? mory has a lot of good stuff for most builds

[opaque brook]

i have kandarin and zeah right now

and i am kinda into thorns and this fancy staff that i gotta charge

[amber sleet]

tob drops the best armor for thorns

[simple marsh]

mory would give you great tank armor for thorns + lithic staff

[amber sleet]

also barrows drops almost as good armor for thorns but is much easier to get

there's quite a few bosses in mory as well so it's not wanting for content

[simple marsh]

with your current build and regions I’d choose between Mory and Tira

just depends on what you want to do more of really

[round mirage]

o since the CA requires you to have melee on for the whole fight, no thorns does not fail it. there is an option in the game to tell you about failed CAs, im well into the waves and havent failed it yet using thorns

[opaque brook]

i played thru to about this point on another account and i just always felt weak and took tira on that one. i couldnt do anything with the gauntlet thing. that boss is tough

[amber sleet]

hunleff is like the gatekeeper to endgame

probably one of if not the most mechanically challenging midgame bosses

leagues does make it easier though

[simple marsh]

Cg is the gatekeeper to learning end pvm

[hearty spruce]

Building temple for shades on 544 if anyone needs

[opaque brook]

lol you both used the same word. thats why im a bit scared of raiding. i dont wanna ruin somebody elses day by jumping in clueless

[amber sleet]

if u want a bit of perspective

[pulsar oriole]

Echo cg probably hardest echo boss

[amber sleet]

normal tobs are easier than cg

in my opinion

[simple marsh]

from a fun perspective? do what you want

from a pragmatist perspective? Use this to learn CG

[amber sleet]

everything in mory is easier than CG other than maybe phosani

and hm tob

[queen thicket]

I'd say theater is more punishing

And that already puts people off

That and it's not solo content so people have nerves about performing badly

[opaque brook]

i have also only used 1 respec so i can always try out other builds too.

[simple marsh]

echo cg with the right pact build is super forgiving too tho

but Tira has less overall content than Mory

[opaque brook]

with already having 88 slayer, is it worth it to take the slayer relic or should i get a skilling relic for like farming or do clues? i really enjoy doing clues

and i hate farming

[amber sleet]

u can solo normal and entry tob

that's like main game possible not very difficultly

it's hm tob that you need to be good/a specific build for

[simple marsh]

I am also a clue enjoyer and have been loving the clue relic

But I’m also stalled at 70 farming cause I, too, dislike it

[queen thicket]

Yeah, but it's still a lot depending on your build

Nylo room will kill people

[amber sleet]

he's mage thorns

once he has lithic nylo will be free

[queen thicket]

True with lithic

[opaque brook]

i also took the "i'm a noob and cant handle resource conservation" relic 🙂

[merry sphinx]

can finally do this clue step

[queen thicket]

You just attack a magic nylo with the spec

Shreds everything around it

[amber sleet]

ye

[queen thicket]

Even with my older Kings barrage build only slightly specced to magic

[simple marsh]

unfortunately redundant with a water mage build

[amber sleet]

just keep 1 melee and ranged weapon as a swap to kill the last couple

and make sure u dont hit them directly with your mage

[queen thicket]

I was still a force to be reckoned with against nylos with a 1t typeless aoe slam

[amber sleet]

and u are fine

[opaque brook]

i have noticed this, and i was kinda thinking about trying a light weapon/thorns build. i really like thorns

[queen thicket]

I am currently a crossbow / melee thorns build

With three tick whip

[amber sleet]

light weapon thorns does work well

[queen thicket]

It's pretty good

[simple marsh]

Tent whip thorns slaps

[amber sleet]

unless you are also taking mage pacts in addition to it you will struggle more with nylo room if you are soloing theatre though

but that doesnt matter if you just join a group that has a mage

[queen thicket]

Yh

You have one person with fast magic and it's fine

Melee and range are relatively free

[opaque brook]

is light weapon fast attack better than just using like a sword and carrying big weapons around?

[amber sleet]

dps wise light weapons are better than blindbag heavy weapons yes

the main difference is u are forced into melee

[simple marsh]

wym? light vs bag?

[amber sleet]

which can prevent you from attacking certain things

[opaque brook]

idk i am just thinking stuff

[amber sleet]

generally light weapon thorns also takes 1t staff nodes so that they have a ranged option

[opaque brook]

should i do ranged then? if so what should i farm out before i ruin my build having no gear lol

[simple marsh]

If you’re thinking about a light/thorns build, then asgarnia is an option too for the dogger

[amber sleet]

1 hand xbow thorns is also an option, you have zeah right?

[queen thicket]

Sunlight hunters crossbow is very free no matter which area you have

Rune crossbow is better

[amber sleet]

i think people doing xbow thorns use dhcb right?

[opaque brook]

yeah i have zeah

[simple marsh]

he’s k/m

[queen thicket]

Dragon Hunter crossbow can be gotten in zeah

[simple marsh]

wait I’m wrong

[queen thicket]

They would require grinding out Chambers though

[simple marsh]

kbd bow is 2h right?

[queen thicket]

Yes

I've been using it in chambers for olm tho

[amber sleet]

yeah cant thorns with it

[queen thicket]

Just his mage hand

[amber sleet]

but they get to heal from the water capstone

[queen thicket]

You can run it on accurate for an 8 tick 0:.5 mage hand run

[simple marsh]

I’m gonna send a blind cox when I get home from work. never done it before

[queen thicket]

I find it very brain off

[simple marsh]

what are my odds

[queen thicket]

If you have infinite healing you're fine

[simple marsh]

34 points water thorns

[next dust]

hmm i actually dont understand the intended mechanic

i tried spamming walkunder and having minions attack her

but they stop

[queen thicket]

Only a couple things can essentially one hit you

[simple marsh]

don’t tell me

[opaque brook]

so mort is the move from what i'm hearing, it gives me options.

[queen thicket]

Which are not actually one hit as much as bad combos of multiple hits

So the chances aren't that high

Unless you do CMs or scaled

[opaque brook]

and the relic i should just take clues because fun?

[amber sleet]

if u like thorns mory is good, and it also has a good charged staff option

also lots of stuff to kill there

[tawdry carbon]

wekk

well

[simple marsh]

Clues for fun and points imo

[tawdry carbon]

wtf censored?\

[queen thicket]

I didn't take clues this year

Not again

[simple marsh]

I frequently rock clue gear for fashionscape

[queen thicket]

Too many

[opaque brook]

i learned about hte rain bow recently and i love it

[simple marsh]

I’m tryna green log easies

[queen thicket]

It would have been the third or fourth time I don't remember

That I went clue based

[simple marsh]

Clues are unironically some of my favorite content in the game

[queen thicket]

I like them maingame

I'm tired of doing the mindless clue grinds on leagues tho

[simple marsh]

but the fashion

[queen thicket]

I have my edgy fashion already

[simple marsh]

I wear a golden chefs hat at nearly all times

[queen thicket]

I think the dagon hai hat fucks with veracs

Ngl

[opaque brook]

thank you guys for the info btw.

[simple marsh]

should be a black cav

[chrome quiver]

yo how can i even finish wilderness diaries when i can't talk to lesser fanatic in edge?

i dont have misthalin unlocked

[simple marsh]

you gotta choose it as your next region

[chrome quiver]

😒

[short cave]

so im not getting any magic seeds hunting chins lol

[chrome quiver]

ig im not able to loot the rogues castle?

[regal spindle]

How do i figure out which content with my thorns build will benefit more from full torags, or crystal armor+blessing

[chrome quiver]

idk why there is so many wilderness tasks but you cant literally do them even set by region in leagues xD

[simple marsh]

how much they hit you

[simple marsh]

which task is it tho? I don’t have wildy

[chrome quiver]

''Loot a dragonstone from the Rogues castle'' - 200 points

[old tapir]

is there any way to get bittercaps without mory

[simple marsh]

Why can’t you do it?

[potent leaf]

Hey guys do you need alts to scale cox ?

[simple marsh]

You get the leagues task for finishing before you ever claim rewards

[crystal kelp]

No

[chrome quiver]

because i need medium diaries finished in order to get gemstones etc?

[potent leaf]

Scaling just adds hp right?

[simple marsh]

oh so the meds count as incomplete since you can’t claim?

[chrome quiver]

ye

idk who decided to put that task in

[tropic mantle]

why cant you do the med diary?

[undone snow]

anyone know if you can still manually cast spells while wielding a hasta for the "I brought mine too" combat achievement for sol?

[simple marsh]

@undone snow

[tropic mantle]

isnt he in ferox?

[chrome quiver]

lemme see

[round mirage]

rofl

[undone snow]

oh waat the shadowflame quadrant can just be wielded for that CA? lmao

[simple marsh]

evidently?

[round mirage]

funny how you asked this so soon after my post

[simple marsh]

we’re not sure how that worked

[chrome quiver]

wait

he deadass is in ferox

💀

[tropic mantle]

yea

[undone snow]

hmm feel like i watched faux do a full run with that and he didnt get ca. guess ill just try it out and see

[round mirage]

but yeah if you need that CA just try it without hitting him, use only thorn dmg

[simple marsh]

It was a random completion for @round mirage in 10 runs, so maybe?

[undone snow]

how heal thru all that without hitting him tho lol

[round mirage]

well im assuming if you need that CA for 100% CA you are actually good at colo

cuz there is a perfect task im not gonna try to get

[undone snow]

i mean if im relying on thorns, i gotta get hit, thats a lot of dmg to get hit by to kills w/ just thorns but if i surge him i imagine that would fail the ca. maybe full inv of brews

[round mirage]

hmmm yeah true

i just splashed everything

thats what im assuming what finally gave me the CA after 10 kc

[undone snow]

oh i see

[simple marsh]

what was your setup? justi + quad?

[round mirage]

yeah

water mage thorn

[smoky raft]

I'm a bit BUSY

[simple marsh]

so yeah it’s just theorycrafting, but the idea was the quad technically has an 8 tile melee range even though it only attacks w magic

so thorns counts as hally melee damage

[round mirage]

but if i have thorns on ranging a jad, it fails me out of the task saying i ranged a second jad

[old tapir]

it is kinda weird how you can't melee with the quad

even though the optiosn are in the menu

[smoky raft]

it has melee stats too

[simple marsh]

🍝

[smoky raft]

not stab, of course, because who would stab with... 4 pointy bits

[old tapir]

probably a bug then

[simple marsh]

Isn’t it crush?

so odd

[smoky raft]

I mean

it's because staves only have crush options

but still silly

[round mirage]

yeah sucks. thats my last CA for the 400 points

literally cant do it unless i rebuild

or they fix it

[potent quail]

i jsut realized i need to do perfect CAs for tasks

i may have done a terrible mistake commiting to point maxings

[shrewd ermine]

[smoky raft]

my minion just fucking spoke

[potent quail]

autsch

[smoky raft]

first time I've seen it

[simple marsh]

what he say tho

[smoky raft]

"you're so tall"

[tawdry carbon]

almost had it!

[shrewd ermine]

zuk has a higher attack rate when the healers spawn right?

[old tapir]

it does seem like it

[scenic kiln]

Is there a way to know if there is an empty spot at vetion at any world?

[austere mirage]

Im gonna get the clue relic instead of transmute! HAHAHAHHAA

||i've made a lazy account for while i am burnt out on my main||
||Endless harvest and hotfoot are wonderous together||

[keen isle]

My last skill I’ve gotta find a solve for is rune crafting. What do yall recommend?

[austere mirage]

b-but i saw someone beat that by standing on 1 spot!

[shrewd ermine]

[austere mirage]

what level you at on it?

[shrewd ermine]

fr

[simple marsh]

regions?

[keen isle]

68

Kourend asgarnia and kandarin

[austere mirage]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVOv3tv-pLc

stand on that spot!

[simple marsh]

Ourania or Blood/souls

[keen isle]

I can’t use noted pure essence?

[austere mirage]

apparently not

[simple marsh]

wym?

[keen isle]

I did Ouranja until like 50 but I’ve been doing arceuss library. It’s not as fast as I’d like

I can only do up to 28 pure essence at a time. Is there anything specifically I can do with league relics to speed it up

[simple marsh]

unless you took soul shards no

[keen isle]

Dag

Spent the last week grinding to 200 mil magic I’ve neglected my other lower levels

[austere mirage]

What is going on? where is my deposits?

and i just got 1! yay about bloody time

[simple marsh]

your best bet is probably biting the bullet till dense bloods

do whatever diaries for lamps too

[keen isle]

I’m not familiar with dense bloods

[simple marsh]

You’re about to be

[keen isle]

Is it the level where you get more blood runes per essence

[simple marsh]

No, it’s a different method to the pure blood altar

wiki got you

[keen isle]

Do you have endless harvest turned on?

[smoky raft]

man I didn't even know you could get here

[keen isle]

Thank you bb

[smoky raft]

I was just wandering around til my teleblock wore off

[austere mirage]

i turned it off

does that affect it?

[simple marsh]

endless sends deposits to the bank

[austere mirage]

i had 0 in the bank

[wary egret]

Why is yama stamina contract so hard

[austere mirage]

yeah just checked 0 in the bank, i got 4 (2 drops) while i had endless turned off

[simple marsh]

super off topic but I swear I recognize the your name from my x days

[austere mirage]

i have been a little more active and going for the water areas (while i read)

[wary egret]

Not me lol. Ive seen another papi chulo on basically every platform ive been on

[simple marsh]

only mentioned because of your pfp

[fast fern]

Anyone needing the "Mine a star" task done, there is a star at Dwarven Mine for anyone with Asgarnia unlocked in w600.

[formal gulch]

I have triumphed over the TzKal.

[teal aspen]

what is causing this?

[tawdry carbon]

blindbaggers unite

[formal gulch]

I water-maged him.

[covert night]

whats the best clue to get dragon enchant scroll?

[old tapir]

whatchu need those for?

[covert night]

to enchant dragonstone bracers and necklace

since im locked out of regions

and thats the only way

[old tapir]

ah, no kandarin?

[covert night]

no

do you know which clue is the best for them?

[old tapir]

do you have asgarnia

[covert night]

no

[old tapir]

then probably elites

[rare hollow]

just got threads

so if i dont have asgarnia there is no way to upgrade them at all right

[hidden wave]

whats the ratio for increased drop rate?

if something is 1/341 in normal then whats it on leagues?

[old tapir]

divide by 5

[fast bridge]

i just died on first time zuk post-healers and let out the loudest yelp

[tacit oyster]

10 shots with 90% chance to bullseye each. all have to bullseye for 1k points

[rare hollow]

post healers death

time to logout lad

[fast bridge]

i took a shot from zuk when i swear i was behind the shield

i wanna die rn

[old tapir]

doesn't seem so bad to hit 10 of them if they're a 90% chance

[rare hollow]

lithic sceptre?

[hidden wave]

can you safespot TzHaar-Xil?

[old tapir]

no they're ranged

[rare hollow]

the ranger? unlikely

pillar strat for him

only the bat can be played by distance

[cloud panther]

Guys, tell Yama to stop being a greedy pos and drop either oathplate or at least a dossier

[rare hollow]

the rest have 10 tiles of view

[crystal kelp]

A lot of people without much experience with Zuk make this same mistake

[tacit oyster]

well that is assuming 112 range with rigour and good range accuracy gear/weapon

[rare hollow]

i took 7 zuk hits so uh

you're just not confident

tbh are you doing zuk in lower gear or something lol zuk isnt normally 1shotting in leagues due to overheals

[fast bridge]

im not playing an overheal build, im playing blowpipe/tbow lol

which is a skill issue

[rare hollow]

https://tenor.com/view/anyway-aq3d-aq3d-meme-anyway-gif-25266432

[fast bridge]

in and of itself

[rare hollow]

you're just doing regular inferno then lol

[uneven laurel]

After almost two full days of back to back Jad tasks hunting for the Jad pet, I misclicked and selected a Juk task instead. Then I got the nibbler pet at 5 Inferno KC.

[rare hollow]

Juk

i just want you guys to know

i got the damn doom pet b4 any uniques

ty for coming to my tedtalk

[old tapir]

chat this is so sad, using avernics instead of echos knocks the total defense bonuses from 1711 to 1685, meaning no 20+10

[covert night]

says i need a ghost speak amulet and 25 ecto?

[old tapir]

can i find 15 defense anywhere

[rare hollow]

for what

[covert night]

but i cant get ghost speak amulet because im locked out

[rare hollow]

u dont need ecto

[covert night]

elite clue

[rare hollow]

oh that

u need to do mory diary for legs actually

[near bison]

kill me

[covert night]

i cant do more diary

[rare hollow]

i think its med diary?

[near bison]

i jsut wanna finish eclipse set

[rare hollow]

or hard diary

[covert night]

need dwarf cannon

[rare hollow]

silence

[near bison]

i got my first ecplise piece at 2 kc 😭

[rare hollow]

get your legs or no ghostspeak

[covert night]

how can i get legs

im locked out

[old tapir]

i would like to not get rid of conflictions, so i don't think there's anything that can be done https://i.imgur.com/AafxC6l.png

[covert night]

of dwarf cannon

[rare hollow]

keep conflic

its highly valuable in 1h magic builds

[rare hollow]

it should be auto completed

[uneven laurel]

ugh, I don't even have a single Doom unique yet. I was doing Fight Caves because I could AFK the entire thing in 20 minute intervals, and the Inferno because I could AFK all the way to the Jads.

[rare hollow]

you must know if u take a region and it demands something from another region, its typically autocompleted for you

check your diary list

[covert night]

its red

[rare hollow]

sec delve 13

brb

[covert night]

ill try to do diary and see how far i can get for med

[old tapir]

and oath is as beefy as its gonna get without mory

[rare hollow]

idk what to tell you anymore man

now let me send this 13

[uneven laurel]

Getting the Ice Barrage in castle wars task autocompleted was convenient

[next dust]

Does crystal key for nex break if you die in leagues?

[cloud panther]

Yama is a jerk

[next dust]

Or can you get it back without fighting the bosses again

[rare hollow]

alright lads we won

[uneven laurel]

Is dwarf cannon given for taking Asgarnia? It's what the wiki says

[tacit oyster]

always lost on death, can obtain new by killing the bosses

dwarf cannon quest auto-completed for asgarnia. can buy it from dwarf with asgarnia.

but dwarf cannon is not required for any other task except placing it down in asgarnia

[next dust]

It's a task to build it too

[sharp sparrow]

How am I supposed to get mage gear with just wildy unlocked? I cant seem to find anything

[amber sleet]

blue moon/virtus?

[merry sphinx]

dwarf cannon quest is entirely in kandarin but u cannot get the cannon

slayer and get dagon hai rng

[sharp sparrow]

How are people farming moons? It feels like i need gear to get gear

(Am not v good at pvm)

[amber sleet]

well

idk if mage is viable at moons

[tawdry carbon]

it can do the blue one kinda slow lol

[amber sleet]

you probably want to use boppers on them

also moons is like

not very much brain power required

they're basically entirely a gear/stat check aside from like step under tech which only goes so far

[merry sphinx]

i done like 20 blue moons earlier no drops

[sharp sparrow]

So im screwed, lmao

[merry sphinx]

might be worth to kill all 3 moons

[sharp sparrow]

I doubt i can even kill them, though

i have no melee

[rare hollow]

so we just got the confliction gloves

[amber sleet]

no, just go put on like rune gear and grab the sulphur blades and kill them

[rare hollow]

we went from a pathetic 27% magic damage to 48%

everything dies now thank you for playing leagues

[amber sleet]

you only need to kill blue moon if u just care about the mage gear

[simple marsh]

You can thorns mage them just fine

[amber sleet]

and blue moon is the easiest moon

also that yeah if u are thorns they will annihilate themselves

[little wraith]

I got a second elven signet

[simple marsh]

bet you can’t fit it up your butt

[rare hollow]

you deserve all the pain you've experienced in leagues

[strange jacinth]

https://tenor.com/view/fallout-new-vegas-degenerates-degenerates-like-you-belong-on-a-cross-degenerate-gif-21451302

[tacit oyster]

blue moon, virtus, dagon'hai

[simple marsh]

found the guy who can’t fit a signet up his butt

[tacit oyster]

Mage accuracy is just hard to get early on with mage build if you didnt go kandarin for mystic or tirannwn for crystal rush

[simple marsh]

I’ll miss you 🫶

[lone bloom]

2:50 corrupted gauntlet

and i just learned it lol

[potent quail]

omg i found a empty mithril dragon world

[pliant temple]

yeah after taking a break and thinking retrospectively, this leagues is probably a 4/10 for me. i had fun but i dont think i like the demonic pact system, and if they continue to do a skill tree i probably wont be playing next leagues. also lame most of the relics were rehashes of old ones and all of the echo bosses were the same (other than amoxli), that really put a damper on it as well

[lone bloom]

i just crash someone

its leagues, everyones doing it

[late helm]

I started with blindbag thorns but respeced into mage thorns. I used barrows armor and melee weapons for moons. It really depends how far you are into your build. Like eventually with thorns build you can get 99 defense pretty quick which is effective enough with mediocre armor. Other than that, you can try and kill amox for the glacial maracas and use that effectively. You could even spec 1 or 2 pacts into melee pacts. But I personally didn’t return to moons and did a ton of CG/Kandarin content for mage build + slayer before returning to moons

[old tapir]

i don't look on it too poorly, but it is a fact that the fun is much harder to find as a result of the complexity and all the different effects being tucked away on their own nodes

[pliant temple]

i think my biggest issue is i didnt go mage

[simple marsh]

Unless you find fun in the complexity 🤷

[late helm]

That’s not what masterchief would do.

[old tapir]

exactly why i've been saying the fun is harder to find, rather than there being less fun

[simple marsh]

There’s enough respecs that shouldn’t be a crux issue

[old tapir]

you got the mind to make it happen, that's great

[pliant temple]

i mean i genuinely think it was less fun with the choices

[old tapir]

most people dont, and it feels really bad to net build from a streamer

[pliant temple]

no kandarin so im just a nerfed mage

[late helm]

Did you have no regions with a 1t staff that you could respec into?

[simple marsh]

1t staves is still bonkers

[old tapir]

also also, tier 6 relics are just garbage, full stop

and i don't get why they keep insisting that tier 7 should only have 2 choices

[pliant temple]

yeah but thats so boring, this is the first year we've had mage be good outside of shadow/powered staves

i want to be able to experience that but because i didnt pick kandarin, fuck me

[late helm]

Did you pick morytania?

[old tapir]

monke

[pliant temple]

i have mory but i dont want to grind nightmare

and i only have one respec left so i would be stuck with it

[simple marsh]

Lithic is wild with the pact build

[late helm]

The powered staff isn’t nightmare or tob. You can get it from gg

And hally build/range are actually better than mage for farming it

[pliant temple]

yeah but like i said i dont want to do a powered staff build. i have 1t powered staff in my build already and have done it

[late helm]

Wait what are you complaining about then?

[simple marsh]

choice regret

[pliant temple]

that i didnt go spellbook mage

choice regret

even if i did go spellbook mage, my opinion on the pact system would stay the same

[cloud panther]

Tzhaar-Ket-Rak Special challenge complete, 40th point finally obtained

[tawdry carbon]

phosani isnt so bad as blindbag

[late helm]

Why do you need spell book mage? Like what is your build? Bluetooth hally + 1t staff?

[pliant temple]

bluetooth hally + 1t staff and i wish that i didnt do that

[tawdry carbon]

thats my build

along with some bow stuff

[tawdry carbon]

why? you can do everything pretty nice

the bugs get annoying but

its serviceable

[late helm]

Can you elaborate why?

[pliant temple]

bc im not having fun with it like i thought i would

[tawdry carbon]

o

[pliant temple]

simple as that

[tawdry carbon]

respec time then

[simple marsh]

because the streamers did different

[tawdry carbon]

i love it

[pliant temple]

???

[tawdry carbon]

especailly after getting scythe

[late helm]

Like what are you seeing that would be more fun? You want to water mage with thorns?

[simple marsh]

or three

[pliant temple]

havent watched any streamers lol, i dont keep up with anyone else and was doing what i thought would be fun

[old tapir]

i think a cynical person would say you're bad at planning, but its definitely true that this league was way harder to plan for than raging echoes

different people have different feelings about whether or not its a good thing for the league to require more planning, you're definitely splitting people into 2 camps by making it so tho

[strange jacinth]

can i pause and logout in colo

[pliant temple]

its not even a me being bad at planning issue, its a me being dissapointed with the plan i followed through on issue

[strange jacinth]

i forgot to change worlds

[old tapir]

i got that too until they buffed the accuracy pacts

[fluid fable]

Vardovis still kicks my ass even with full melee thorns build lmao

[old tapir]

like my plan turned out worse than i thought it would and i was just splashing on everything i needed to kill to progress

[fluid fable]

I mean im getting kcs, and my brains doing that thing where he feels like his slowing down

But still, its crazy that even with a cracked league build main content can be hard

[late helm]

But you have pact resets… like are you disappointed you didn’t go Kandarin for elemental mage?

[pliant temple]

that is exactly what im saying. i also only have one pact reset left so i would be stuck with what i do

theres just definitely a lot i would have done differently. i was planning on doing nally blindbag and then respeccing into dogger thorns, and after respeccing into dogger thorns i was having way less fun, so i respecced back and now only have one respec

[late helm]

You should have 5 respecs total

[strange jacinth]

sheesh

[fluid fable]

U used 2, u should have 3 left

Dont even stress bro

[short cave]

at beginning of 97 farming. is it worth even doing any allotment runs because of how quick it is or should i just stick with trees

[fluid fable]

Just like, play the game

[grand fable]

i just got armadyl chest and legs and hilt and godsword shard in 5 kills

[simple marsh]

^
I’ve done light weapon thorns, pure mage, water thorns, and thrown weapons builds this leagues

[old tapir]

@pliant temple what relics and regions do you have?

[pliant temple]

and i used them for other things because i assumed i would have fun with at least one of the builds i did

[grand fable]

im still coming down off the high lmao

[pliant temple]

im back to bluetooth hally + 1t staves bc its what i had the most fun with

[late helm]

I can see the annoyance with not going water mage thorns tho. I used it to unlock all the content I want and now I can pretty easily grab bluetooth nally blind bag for fun

[cyan cobalt]

600 abyssal demons killed and no whip.

Is my game bugged

[fluid fable]

I used one of my respecs mid fight cave coz the update that shuffles someof the pacts made the build i was doing way way stronger - as in i suddenly just had access to one more node and it lined up perfectly with that one more node being very important

No regrets, 5 respecs is so mant

[late helm]

Regretting picking relics or pacts is definitely a thing. But that impactful decision space makes Leagues fun for a lot of people imo

[simple marsh]

light weapons thorns was lowk the early game goat for me

[fluid fable]

I genuinely dont understand how so many people are sweating over it

[pliant temple]

TAM regions. eh, hotfoot, evil eye, transmute, larcenist, culling spree, reload into clue relic, flask of fervor

[simple marsh]

It’s largely region regret

[fluid fable]

True

I like my regions

[simple marsh]

same

Tzk

[late helm]

My regret for my regions is I don’t really have a fun ranged build to try TKM

[fluid fable]

I should regret wildy coz it puts my peak strength way lower than it should be

[pliant temple]

i took asg instead of another region like kandarin because i thought i was going to like dogger+thorns and i wound up kinda hating it

[fluid fable]

But, i like web weaver

Fun item

[simple marsh]

Have any respecs left?

[pliant temple]

so asgarnia was for the most part a wasted region for me

[late helm]

Assgarnia ah

[late helm]

I have 4 left

[simple marsh]

Crossbow thorns is fun

[late helm]

Like hunters crossbow?

[simple marsh]

with Hunter Xbows

[fluid fable]

Working towards that rn

[simple marsh]

ye

[old tapir]

yeah it does seem like you're funnelled into the hallybb build with those regions

[fluid fable]

I mean in the laziest way possible

[late helm]

I may try it

[fluid fable]

0 pacts towards it, just thorns rcb

[old tapir]

do you have any echoes in the mix?

[simple marsh]

You could also do some whacky thrown atlatl/chin builds

[fluid fable]

Im a bow build that just doesnt actually have a bow yet

Wildy unlock later

[simple marsh]

Probably not best efficiencyscape

but still fun

[late helm]

I used all 1.1k of my chins and only got 97 ranged in mm2 caves

[fluid fable]

Rip

[simple marsh]

chins go infinite with ammo regen

[late helm]

I didn’t have enough ammo regen at the time hehe

[fluid fable]

Does avas regen chins?

[simple marsh]

yeah but you got 4 respecs

[pliant temple]

i played leagues 4 and 5 and have never had any sort of regret issues over anything more than like a relic or two, this year there was just too much to plan for and i really didnt care for that

[late helm]

Does your chins supply increase with certain regen specs?

[simple marsh]

yea, as long as you have st least 100% regen

[fluid fable]

My entire planning process went out the window within about an hour of starting league lol

[slim crag]

Hmm... Doom, CoX or Coliseum next?

[fluid fable]

Just go with the wind, have fun

[pliant temple]

thats what ive been trying to do

and im just not

[simple marsh]

Doom 4 boots and gloves

[slim crag]

Gloves, sure. Boots, not for air spells.

[old tapir]

was already tickering with a build for a friend so this might be good for you too if you were looking to optimize the hally @pliant temple https://i.imgur.com/wQ8tP48.png

[simple marsh]

still big tasks tho

[pliant temple]

i appreciate that

[late helm]

I feel like you are more interested in being able to afk content with water thorns which you can still respec into. Lithic sceptre accomplishes a lot of what water thorns does

[pliant temple]

not really the case

[tawdry carbon]

hmmm

has ais anyone here a fire-water mage

[pliant temple]

i love the idea of doing a water + fire build

[tawdry carbon]

fire looks so fun in tob

🤔

[simple marsh]

so run it with twinflame

[tawdry carbon]

why would u use that over the shadowflame sceptre

everyone in the hmts i ran were using that instead

[simple marsh]

he has no kand

[tawdry carbon]

its a new item so igenuinely dunno

oh im talkinga bout me

[pliant temple]

its whatever, if i could afford to bond up my alt to play i would just run it back on that, but i cant

[simple marsh]

yeah I relied to the wrong person

[tawdry carbon]

i did everything with blindbag now im thinking to respec and afk stuff

[pliant temple]

i could do it with twinflame but again, if i respec and dont enjoy it im stuck on that because i only have one respec left

[simple marsh]

analysis paralysis

You’re clearly not enjoying yourself already, so why not try it?