leagues-general

[velvet hornet]

they just say leagues as far as i can tell

[tawdry carbon]

https://tenor.com/view/girls-frontline-2-gfl2-girls-frontline-2-cheeta-cheeta-cheetah-gif-9486155095946272109

yama is zeah only?

why the fuck the theme boss of the league is locked toa region

[amber sleet]

yes

[scenic garden]

mouse over them or click the gear icon

[tawdry carbon]

ok

rixxy i think i have to abandon

[regal sedge]

where's the best spot to afk for a visage

[tawdry carbon]

for the objectively correct build of the league

😭

wrong person

[amber sleet]

to be fair

once i have full justi and a dfs im trying out blindbag thorns

i'm keeping the halberd node though

[tawdry carbon]

Blindbag with all 1hs?

[scenic garden]

probly kbd if you have wildy or vorkath if you have frem, not sure if there are other dragon bosses

[velvet hornet]

om gi had no idea that was there

[amber sleet]

not all 1hs

[formal gulch]

Is manual cast normally 4t speed?

[amber sleet]

just saeldor+dfs in hands

[tawdry carbon]

blindbag unekips your offhand though

[amber sleet]

same setup in the bags

[regal sedge]

kbd it is, tyty

[amber sleet]

only with kitted scythes

just dont use kitted scythers

[scenic garden]

depending on the weapon, yes

[tawdry carbon]

do the bonuses apply to your offhand ?

like

[amber sleet]

wdym?

[tawdry carbon]

do i get a fuckin nox hally + avernic boost

lmao

[amber sleet]

?

[scenic garden]

it's not supposed to, that's a bug

[formal gulch]

What weapon makes it more or less than 4t?

[amber sleet]

too bad they have already stated they will not be fixing any more blindbag bugs for the rest of this league

they might fix them next time maybe if they use it again

[tawdry carbon]

they dont need to fix any blind bag bugs

they should just add a 0 to the damage boost or the proc rate

numerical change

[toxic vortex]

Well, they aren't

[tawdry carbon]

and nobody compalins lol

[amber sleet]

yeah honestly

if our capstone wasn't literally a 3% damage increase

[tawdry carbon]

"aww its buggy. good thing i do fucking 700 damage swings when its not broken 8D"

[amber sleet]

i would be completely happy

[formal gulch]

You know what blindbag needs? For the final capstone to not be terrible.

[shy light]

hit max points cause the mass world almost lost lol

[amber sleet]

just give us a real capstone and i'd be content

[tawdry carbon]

seriously

just make this 20% to 100%

thatll have people go "wait hold on"

can u imagine

5 boppers

all just fucking hitting a billion

LMAO

[formal gulch]

Like, make it add another 25% chance to blindbag with 5 weapons!!

[tawdry carbon]

yea the procrate is the other pain

[toxic vortex]

I'd have been content if it increased the proc chance to 50% total

[tawdry carbon]

but im fine with low proc rate with high damage

[toxic vortex]

That'd have been good

[austere mirage]

You made it to that! i couldnt find it and ended up in a desert fighting a scarab

[tawdry carbon]

or high proc rate with urrent damage

[amber sleet]

i'd much prefer a proc rate increase to a damage increase

[shy light]

it's next to MTA

[amber sleet]

the swinginess of it kind of feels ass sometimes

[formal gulch]

Never-ending procs.

[toxic vortex]

Doesn't really need more damage

[tawdry carbon]

yea

proc rate would be fun

[toxic vortex]

Just more chances

[tawdry carbon]

the thing is

with a higher proc rate, youd notice the bugs way more

[amber sleet]

sure

[formal gulch]

I think blindbag requires a lot more skill than waterthorns.

[tawdry carbon]

of course

waterthorns requires no skill

it requires nothing

[formal gulch]

It would really make the high level pvmers happy.

[tawdry carbon]

it doesnt require a player

LMAO

[scenic garden]

where did they say they aren't fixing anymore blindbag bugs?

[shy light]

right there

[tawdry carbon]

the news blog thing

#game-news

[amber sleet]

#game-news message

[formal gulch]

Reddit made it sound like Jagex is never gonna work on leagues again. What we have is what we get. Is this true chat?

[tawdry carbon]

this league yes

[amber sleet]

blindbag movement bug, battleaxe staying in hand, and scythes unequipping shields all thrown in the trashbin

[tawdry carbon]

future hell no

[formal gulch]

(I’m too lazy to read)

[amber sleet]

those are staying forever

[tawdry carbon]

forever is only 14 more days

league is ending soon

[amber sleet]

u mean like 40 more days?

[tawdry carbon]

by poe logic, league is over 1-2 weeks after it starts

and leagues are a poe concept

therefore the leagues over

[amber sleet]

[tawdry carbon]

if you didnt finish you can log in but its over

its ended ya done ya missed out

go next

[regal spindle]

can i get the ca for killing karil using only special attacks, if thorns is on??

[austere mirage]

The desert?

[shy light]

yes

[tawdry carbon]

is there like an afk cooking method

[scenic garden]

Are death spawn supposed to be unable to proc thorns or recoil/suffering? I don't see anything on the wiki about it.

[narrow epoch]

Eeeeeeeey, got my King's Barrage!

That's the fourth and final Echo drop done!

[tawdry carbon]

gzzzzzzzz

[tawdry carbon]

ur done bro. completed.

[narrow epoch]

Still only at ~26000 points total. Got more pacts to unlock, but still!

[regal spindle]

can i get the ca for killing karil using only special attacks, if thorns is on??

[scenic garden]

it says "only damage dealt by special attacks"

[amber sleet]

are those the little explodey vorkath hands?

[scenic garden]

no, the ones that Nechs spawn

[amber sleet]

oh

idk but they should heal you when they miss

which is most of the time

i think they might actually not take damage because i remember the mage thorns that were farming nechs near me had like 20 of them surrounding them

they were spam healing though

[regal spindle]

can thorns be toggled off without resetting all pacts? or am i just perma locked out of these ca's

[queen fable]

unequip your shield

[regal spindle]

i fo got

[amber sleet]

it's such a brain off build that they don't even realize they can just take off the shield

[ancient wolf]

Would it be a huge improvement if I put some actual boots on to replace my Searing boots when doing PvM? I have 0 boots and currently only have access to like mystic boots or something

[amber sleet]

what regions?

and what build?

[regal spindle]

so stupid that the lithic sceptre spec does not get the CA done against karil.

[narrow epoch]

Man... why is this special crossbow so underwhelming on my water-thorns build??? It's such a mystery!

[ancient wolf]

thorns water mage right now but plan on going more melee/thorns later or something similar, currently have mory and kandarin unlocked - going for priff next

[amber sleet]

get guardian boots

from grotesque guardians

or just go clear colo until you get echo boots

a better version of guardian boots

[ancient wolf]

wait they drop them? shit I've been doing echo guardians this whole time just for free pots cause I'm lazy

[amber sleet]

yes

also

if u havent already make sure u imbue ur suffering

since u are kand

it doubles the defense bonuses

[ancient wolf]

I did, I made sure I did

[copper skiff]

whoever doing water thorns build what shield yall usin

[ancient wolf]

as for clearing colo, I keep trying but die around like wave 5-6

[amber sleet]

dfs>crystal shield>obby shield

[ancient wolf]

I'm doing water thorns rn and just using the obby shield since it's easy

[amber sleet]

basically the only ones worth using

you could find a better alternative than obby shield maybe if you are region locked out of getting dfs/crystal

[copper skiff]

im using anti dragon shield rn lol

[twilit laurel]

You can't be region locked out of dfs. You can get a visage in karamja

[amber sleet]

that is terrible

[scenic garden]

if you have tirannwn you can buy a crystal shield for 750k in prif

[amber sleet]

buy an obby shield

anti dragon is like one of the worst shields in the game

[potent quail]

whats a good Echo CG kill time?

[amber sleet]

unless specifically fighting dragons

[ancient wolf]

I don't yet, will get it in 54 more tasks

[frosty cradle]

Sorry for being annoying, still kinda confused as to what to pick for my first area unlock.

I am thinking of doing thorn + light weapon (<1kg) build. What should be my first area unlock? I would really benefit from bumping up my strength bonus as much as i can.

However I'm also just considering respec'ng into the thorn + mage builds peeps keep doing. The PvM is driving me mad atm.

Any safe and good pick? ideally with lots of easy pacts?

[copper skiff]

ok i have one

just using this cause dragons

[amber sleet]

if you are fighting dragons then your answer is basically just anti dragon or dfs

[ancient wolf]

I went Mory and it was kinda ass but honestly it was fun too

[amber sleet]

unless you have superantifires to burn

[copper skiff]

1 in 2k drop rate on black dragons im killing rn

oof

[ancient wolf]

slowly building up to be able to solo barrows was fun as shit

[scenic garden]

doing thorns you'll need Kandarin for Ring of Suffering to add the 3rd hitsplat for max damage

[ancient wolf]

thanks for reminding me I need to make a bunch of ring of recoils

[tawdry carbon]

tiranwin is pretty safe.

[scenic garden]

and water/1t staff thorns need kandarin for the warped sceptre and the echo thermy sceptre

[tawdry carbon]

if you want to go mage, kandarin is a must.

[amber sleet]

kandarin is good for pretty much everyone

[tawdry carbon]

^

[amber sleet]

piety for blindbag

suffering for thorns builds

[tawdry carbon]

i have grimoire like a fucking moron

🙂

me when i picked it: "I can't wait to freeze crabs at hmt!"

[amber sleet]

echo weapon is bis for elemental mages

[tawdry carbon]

Me when i ran hmt: "hur dur flask of fervor and brute force dps""

[copper skiff]

i was gonna reload into the grim book lol

[tawdry carbon]

fuckin clanker

[tawdry carbon]

https://giphy.com/gifs/the-office-dont-michael-scott-H3Gsg60KeSKOaBQASD

[potent quail]

the echo weapon is basicly a 200% damage increase

i am NOT exagerating

4 dps in calc becomes 12

[copper skiff]

lol

[frosty cradle]

Any other reasons for going to Kandarin? Is there good equipment there for armour n whatnot? or does that not matter to most people

[copper skiff]

im doing this on my alt

im reloading into book

[frosty cradle]

I barely have a good set on my character. Just random mishmash of stuff i found

[tawdry carbon]

ring of suffering for thorns
lots of easy tasks

the thing is

If you go mage your gear literally can be random mishmash

thats how stuuuuupid it is lol

ok boys

[frosty cradle]

when u say mage, you saying specifically water + thorn?

[tawdry carbon]

Is there anything I should do with blindbag before i swap to mage?

[tawdry carbon]

water thorn air water thron powered staff thron any mage

[amber sleet]

any mage that has either water or 1t staff + water rune regen is basically unkillable with thorns

which should be pretty much any mage

[frosty cradle]

i only have 11 points available to me. Should i respec into mage and if so what path? I really like the idea of the 1t powered staff but dunno where to go or what to grab

[potent quail]

well pstaff healing is nice

but very far from unkillable

[potent quail]

whats our build right now?

[potent quail]

and your regions so far

[frosty cradle]

It's a light melee + just started thorn path.

I have no regions except karamja

[amber sleet]

with full tank, 180 max hp and 100% rune regen you should not be dying to like anything at all

[frosty cradle]

i use a poisoned Dragon dagger atm

[scenic garden]

mostly unkillable. stuff that oneshots you or does big quick hits can plank you. tho I can somehow survive the jad challenges with alot of missed prayers

[amber sleet]

you camp mage pray and the only thing that can kill you through your every gametick tick eat healing is anything that cant be tick eaten

[simple marsh]

I’m a basic bitch but I’m loving the crystal armor + blessing combo too for mage

[amber sleet]

which isnt much

[potent quail]

i am assuming you dont know bossing at all and get hit regularly by the 40+ damage attacks

[static arch]

woohoo! completed Guthans. Still more to do for Ahrim and Torag sets, but finally get that pact point.

[potent quail]

ah yeah fun build but not the ebst, if you want to stay on this path: you need a whip

but if you reset i can give you the guide

[tawdry carbon]

🤔
Is there anything I should do with blindbag before i swap to mage?
I already did all the HMTs (mage will probs be easier), i havent 100%'d moons yet..
echo thermy is fine with amge right?

[amber sleet]

you literally cannot die unless something that can't be tick eaten hits you

idk what to tell you

and you have to be unlucky for that too

[simple marsh]

has anyone here tried out a dogger thorns build

[potent quail]

people dont know how to tick eat

[simple marsh]

Was thinking about trying that on my alt

[toxic vortex]

Moons probably

[scenic garden]

just be warned that the light weapon progression is incredibly shallow in general. you're probly gonna need asgarnia for the Echo Cerberus dagger if you really want to keep on that

[sudden peak]

oh i find a way

[frosty cradle]

What i wanted to do is go forward with this build at least until the whip just to see what i can do with it. BUt i dont wanna choose a bad region because of this build that will screw me if i change to mage later when i give up lol

[toxic vortex]

Easier with melee

Each set has a task

[amber sleet]

brother you don't need to actually eat, the staff that attacks every tick and heals you for 1-2 every tick is tick eating every tick for you

[frosty cradle]

thats exactly what i was worried about. And i feel like it doesnt have that many synergies or anything

[toxic vortex]

Yo dawg, we heard you like ticks

[potent quail]

well so you are telling me in CG i can just stand there and auto attack hunleff and i wont die?

[frosty cradle]

it specifically even states you cant double hit when using specials and then goes down the special area

[simple marsh]

you can still get stacked at stuff like echo cg

[scenic garden]

I've also heard alot of people in here having trouble meleeing cerb

[sudden peak]

doom killed me like wave 4 with water thorns

[frosty cradle]

i dont get why they specifically removed that potential synergy

[amber sleet]

that's why i said anything tick eatable

[sudden peak]

as well as like wave 8 colo* somehow

[amber sleet]

getting stacked out isn't tick eatable

[toxic vortex]

Oh you can definitely still die

[amber sleet]

but it should be very rare to happen at most content

unless you're unironically afking

[sudden peak]

i feel like some forget to add the thorns 10% healing pact

[iron mesa]

Does the shadow or tbow fit into any nice builds?

[sudden peak]

i just got enough for that to be added on to my build but i respecced for gauntlet so i gotta ride this grind out

[simple marsh]

and the +2+2 for attacks that miss you

[potent quail]

the build of the league is
Thorns: insane once you hit 8 skill points

Psaffs: insane once you get a pstaff

water mage: infinite healing and really good damage

air mage: the biggest damage (requires very specific gear in every slot)

Crossbow: if you have wilderness.

and blindbag which people cant evaluate

[frosty cradle]

im doing it rn but only 11 pts in. It's not bad by any means its just not broken like all the other builds are so far

but im a noob

[twilit laurel]

Not any that are great

[sudden peak]

sometimes that confuses me like should i be prayin then or not praying to reflect more dmg

[ancient wolf]

one more thing Jackie - do echo grotesque guardians drop everything the normal variant does as the wiki doesn't really specify

[frosty cradle]

So going thorns FIRST? can you really just get thru having nothing but thorns basically?

[twilit laurel]

Is overheal worth it for thorns crossbow builds?

[wild wagon]

Is taking the charter ship the only way to get to Karamja once you unlock the area?

[simple marsh]

I still pray to not build bad habits

[sudden peak]

water mage 1st

[frosty cradle]

If so can you show me how to respec into thorns? Path ideally?

[amber sleet]

pretty sure it's worth it for thorns anything builds

[sudden peak]

fair play

[tawdry carbon]

how many pts are at moons?

you mean farm the full stS?

sts?

SETS

[amber sleet]

having passively generating 180 hp cap is big

[potent quail]

this is the route: (see the numbers on each node)
https://www.osrsleaguescountdown.io/tree?share=1y3kEjm8SCOEwCCR8AACBAAA.wB_5C3_qD_6T__hX_ud_-BN_7G_9yb_5X_7TH_07f-7f_Jl_8df-xj_8Z__rX_2___bv_sdf_Ed_6V_-n7_3h_4&name=STARTER

it basicly requires Kandarin to get your first 2 powered staves.

with thorns you want as much defence stats as possible (read node 7)

[simple marsh]

80 for each set, plus CAs, and a weapon

[potent quail]

it helps INSANELY early on

all other builds need bit of gear to get strong, thorns instantly strong

[simple marsh]

maybe more

[tawdry carbon]

the weapon is points?

I can work on that after my task sure

[simple marsh]

I think it’s any moons weapon

[tawdry carbon]

already wearing one

[frosty cradle]

thats dope

[tawdry carbon]

i just havent completed any sets

[simple marsh]

yeah each armor set is 80

[frosty cradle]

If i was going this route, is my first area unlock gonna be kandarin?

[potent quail]

i am KTZ
K for powered staves (and lots of other good stuff)
T for crystal shield and later crystal armor wiht crystal blessing (wotrks with powered staff)
Z as my raid region

[amber sleet]

pretty sure specifically echo cg hitting 2 times per attack makes it impossible to tick eat because the staff healing is going to be less than a hit's damage

[potent quail]

if you take kandarin as one of your 3 regions, i would choose it first

[amber sleet]

obviously anything that is going to stack you out it won't save you from

[sudden peak]

my pacts healin is so underwhelming at echo cg

[frosty cradle]

I see that you unlock powered staff. What staff are you aiming to get right away?

[potent quail]

more interested in the tornados and ground damage

the projectiles from hunleff would be no problem

[amber sleet]

but

[tawdry carbon]

warp and free cg if u go t

[amber sleet]

yeah

those are also going to be hitting you more than 1 time per tick

so not tick eatable

[potent quail]

warped terrorbirds (btw which are insanely great slayer exp with thorns)

[frosty cradle]

cool so warped staff got it, someone else said that was their first as well

[potent quail]

warped scepter from warped terrorbirds

[frosty cradle]

is that in kandarin?

[potent quail]

then later Trident from Kraken

and later another trident from zulrah

[frosty cradle]

oh indeed it is

[scenic garden]

ye

[tawdry carbon]

bro

you know what i would ahve loved blindbag to be

imagine it was just a bag you equip like the bankers bag
it has halberd range too

[amber sleet]

but despite not being able to free tick eat echo cg, being a thorns staff build should still make it a piss fight because as long as you are just avoiding the most simple mechanics u have like plenty of sustain and won't die

[tawdry carbon]

and when you attack it procs for whats in it

lmao

[scenic garden]

or you can skip kraken and do zulrah for the full toxic trident

[frosty cradle]

and in kandarin i should acquire ring of suffering im assuming

any other notable gear?

[amber sleet]

even whiffing a lot on echo cg as thorns 1t staff u shouldn't really be dying

[potent quail]

ehh kraken is super chill and need 300 kills anways

[tawdry carbon]

are crystal halberds at different charge states = 2 diff items for blindbag?

[scenic garden]

well it also has a high slayer level req

[potent quail]

zulrah requires brain power and pacts help here

[regal spindle]

what do i do to go from 77-99 construction?

[tawdry carbon]

elemental balance or mahogaloids

[amber sleet]

elemental balances

[scenic garden]

zulrah only needs prot prayers and cure me lol

[potent quail]

yeah later

early on get adamant -> rune -> dragon pieces(if you get them)

you will need to check if your magic attacks hit the enemys, if they dont you may need to replace body armor with a piece with positive magic damage, like mystics or blue moon

[tawdry carbon]

you need to stay above certain hp if you dont kill him fast enough too

[regal spindle]

that's like, spend hundreds of millions of gp for only about 5k xp per interaction?

[tawdry carbon]

tanz + snakeling can do damge for no reason

[toxic vortex]

Yeah

[tawdry carbon]

gp is solved by various relics, regions, etc

[toxic vortex]

Fuck you here's 5 range attacks

And they all hit 40

[potent quail]

with thorns snakelings dont matter

[amber sleet]

i did my first few zulrah kills as blindbag with like 10 pacts and no venom removal other than the antidotes she was dropping

[tawdry carbon]

They still do damage

[amber sleet]

[toxic vortex]

They still can hurt

[tawdry carbon]

but again

if ur a mage u dont care

[potent quail]

you will be fine

[tawdry carbon]

im talking generally

[amber sleet]

it was really aids though

[toxic vortex]

Get double tapped 10s by a couple of snakes and eat a 42 from zulrah

[tawdry carbon]

im still blindbagging rixxy

gonna do a few more slayer tasks, 100% moons

then respec

[amber sleet]

its ok

as long as you don't go a mage thorns build u wont be dead to me

[toxic vortex]

I'm going to wait until I get the quadrant from thermy, to get some wrath runes from BA

Then knock out the Huey stuff

[tawdry carbon]

thats EXACTLY what im doing

[toxic vortex]

Too bad

You cant

I said it first

[potent quail]

my plan right now
at 28 points 75% prayer pen, trident of the seas

Farm echo hunleff till echo blessing and full crystal armor
2. farm echo thermy with crystal and pstaff till quadrant
3. either get enough skillpoints or respec into water mage
4. farm zulrah etc/get my last points
5. get air mage tree -> get gearing for the prayair mage

[toxic vortex]

You should do zulrah with 1t staff first

[potent quail]

kills take to long
and trident 2 doesnt help with cg at all

[toxic vortex]

What

I was getting sub 30s kills with 1t staff

[potent quail]

🤔

then i am doing something wrong

[potent quail]

mage gear?

[toxic vortex]

Crystal

With blessing

[potent quail]

edsgfrsgr

thats my first stepXD

[toxic vortex]

Right

I'm saying to do zulrah before you spec out of 1t staff

[potent quail]

i dont think i will respec at all

all that will change is
checks notes

1 skillpoint

from my build now to final build

[old tapir]

wow, what an interesting graveyard random

the coffins were in 54321 order and had to go in 12345 order

[potent quail]

oh wait i will need to respec for prayair mage

shit

but thats a tradeoff

[past forge]

do i want a chance of mimic boss fights?

no idea just got the option opening a casket

[scenic garden]

not if you don't have kourend

[narrow mesa]

dont think you can unless you chose kourend*

[potent quail]

do you have Kourned=?

btw jsut tested

standing still and just praying correctly in echo cg with 1t staff-> dead

[scenic garden]

yea, the floor and tornados will get you

[toxic vortex]

Pretty sure we told you that

[sudden peak]

zulrah was cake w water thorns

[potent quail]

so you cant tick eat the ground?

or is the problem you get hit by multiple hitsplats at the same time, even if only 1 of them deals damag

[regal spindle]

why can't i find Elemental balances anywhere on this calculator? all it reccomends is stupid sht like making thousands of mahogany planks.

[scenic garden]

multiple can deal damage to you at once afaik

[sudden peak]

whats build

thats what im workin on rn

[potent quail]

i dont think outside of league balances make sense

[potent quail]

if you have butler jsut put him on planks for 2 dayds

no fking way

[frosty cradle]

I should be wearing armour with magic gear? Is that cause its better most enemies do 0 so thorns trigger and add tons of accuracy bonuses to offset the wrong armour?

[sudden peak]

post dat build for me im tryin this rn. Have gotten some cg kills but it gets hairy sometimes

[sudden peak]

exactly

[potent quail]

it depends on the situation

because thorns is so strong yoiu want max def stats to increase the damage, but want to sometimes get a bit of mage gear if you need the accuracy to hit with the pstaff

[scenic garden]

you wear magic armour til you have enough accuracy pacts that you stop splashing, then you go melee tank so you can buff thorns

or you balance between mage and melee tank

[potent quail]

https://www.osrsleaguescountdown.io/tree?share=1y3kEjm8SCOEwCCR8AACBAAA.wB_5C3_qD_6T__hX_ud_-BN_7G_9yb_5X_7TH_07f-7f_Jl_8df-xj_8Z__rX_2___bv_sdf_Ed_6V_-n7_3h_4&name=STARTER

its basicly this build
but i took the prayer pen nodes earlier (sitting at 75%)

[frosty cradle]

if enemies are doing 0 often times do to your armour, is it worth putting points into that thorn pact that reflects all damage at some %? feel like itd be quite rare

[potent quail]

thorns triggers even if the enemys dont hit 0 to you

the "get hit by 0" only matters to regen 2 hp and 2 prayer

[potent quail]

the reflect pact is independent of all others, and its on the route to thorns anyways, so just get it

in my experience its not very impactfult at all

[jovial tiger]

u love to see it as a tank build

[potent quail]

why does this game make it so INCONVENIENT to use my pets

same shit with underwater for seaweed farms

[tawdry carbon]

omg just gib another tail

[jovial tiger]

tail is 1 in 300 with leauges drop rate >.>

[tawdry carbon]

i deserve to be spooned for not playing mage or thorns

[hazy anvil]

8 zennies is crazy lol

[tawdry carbon]

what is spring rate

[jovial tiger]

1/150 i belive

1/100' in leauges

[shrewd ermine]

unbelievably dog shit task (crystal seed)

[past forge]

no i dont

[potent quail]

then its literally impossible to open mimics

[sudden peak]

the thorns triggers in echo cg?? i was basically doin no thorns dmg to him

[jovial tiger]

no u need a shield

[potent quail]

? not talking about cg
and no they dont work there

[sudden peak]

omfg ur right

[jovial tiger]

lol

[sudden peak]

jesus im dumb

i respecced and everything lmao

[jovial tiger]

dont worry the is elements off hand count as a sheild is asked like 10 times a day

[potent quail]

all yoiu need for cg is pstaff and 75% prayer pen

[sudden peak]

i thought it didnt??

[shy light]

only 4 levels to go 😄

[jovial tiger]

it dosent

[sudden peak]

ok about to have 2 face palms in a row there

[shy light]

maxing in possibly the last leagues with a 2277 max level

[tawdry carbon]

lets goooo

does veng work on moons btw

[crystal forge]

can you get wilderness diary done?

[jovial tiger]

i dont think they hit hard enough to make it worth while if they do

[tawdry carbon]

kk

[crystal forge]

i cant get to edgeville

[potent quail]

mhh should be pointless at moons, first hit is always 10 or less

[jovial tiger]

npc should be moved to ferrox

[tawdry carbon]

time to 100% moons

[sudden peak]

https://tools.runescape.wiki/demonic-pacts/?n=1-100-101-106-107-108-133-134-135-136-166-44-45-46-53-55-56-58-59-60-61-67-68-69-70-87-92-93-94-96-97-99

This is what im doing now, actually not bad to kill corrupted but havent gotten echo rob yet

but certainly not afk

[old tapir]

i seem to require a victim for fight pits for hard karamja diary

any voulenteers?

[twilit laurel]

Anyone want to do TOA 8man we need 2 in world 400

[potent quail]

125% prayer pen

[jovial tiger]

go to a high pop world and ask tzharr bank

[static arch]

Oh, I think I misread this before-- does it do 1% of ranged bonus vs. ranged, or 1% of all def bonuses of all styles vs. everything?

[austere gazelle]

so i just got 12 superiors in a row lmao, thought it was bugged

[potent quail]

btw i dont see much value in te 1% magic nodes without shadow

i would recommend piviting into air mage later on

[potent quail]

alos to clarify
prayer pen caps at 100%
so all additional one is wasted

[sudden peak]

in game its showin me at 100

[potent quail]

well i see you took 5 prayer pen nodes

[sudden peak]

shit

[potent quail]

but yeah more then enough for echo cg

[sudden peak]

none of the end branch air and mage powerups work right?

[potent quail]

in cg? no but in main game they work really well

[scenic garden]

they only work for air spells, they won't work for air rune regen with powered staves

in case that's what you were trying for

[sudden peak]

ah yeah so basically air mage and thorns dont do anything in cg?

[near magnet]

how does ayak compare to lithic sceptre with 1 tick pact?

[scenic garden]

nope

[potent quail]

you use a powered staff and have no shield^^

but thats all you need: pstaff nodes and prayer pen, even with your not maximum efficent build, your build deals more damage in cg then mine

[steep arrow]

Finally T8 lol. What do y'all think is more DPS/fun the minion or the elixir?

I feel like I heal a ton and have great prayer regen, so the bottle seems... weak?

[scenic garden]

minion is fun for auto-looting

[steep arrow]

Oh what? Minion autoloots for you??????

[scenic garden]

ye, read it

[silent garnet]

If you need help doing 6 jads, minion does a LOT because it hits the healers

[scenic garden]

it also hits aoe in multi

[silent garnet]

But flask can bring you back to life

[steep arrow]

Oh man I'm 1000000% doing minion wtf lol

[silent garnet]

because it clears the death queue

[steep arrow]

idk just did 5 jads to get the T8 and it was ezpz

[silent garnet]

you can legit actually die - like fall over - and walk it off

[steep arrow]

Missed a few prayers but im tanky

[cyan cobalt]

Man Vardorvis still pisses me off lmao I'm cancelling this slayer task

[late helm]

Wtf devil’s element doesn’t trigger thorns?

[silent garnet]

If you are raiding with friends, eeryone having flask letsyou phase skip some things,pretty cool

[silent garnet]

Yea its fucking lame

Devils element not a shield, you literally don't even want to use it

[shrewd ermine]

is it worth using crystal shield if I have crystal blessing or no?

for magic

[potent quail]

well its not a shield?

[silent garnet]

Oh yea

[narrow epoch]

Nope, not a shield

[shrewd ermine]

cause crystal shield is -10 on magic

[potent quail]

i am sorry the strongest echo weapon in the game cant get everythingXD

[potent quail]

you got thorns?

[shrewd ermine]

no but im planning on it

[potent quail]

i actually dont know if shield interacts with blessing at all

[shrewd ermine]

but I was thinking of getting dfs instead

[potent quail]

pre thorns then no

[silent garnet]

technicality that new players don't understand
they plan their build around it
it doesn't work

It fucking sucks that it doesn't proc thorns nad everyone who says otherwise is so anti-player its unreal

[potent quail]

reading the relic explains the relic
reading the item explains the item

[scenic garden]

it's not anti-player to know that the shield slot doesn't make everything a shield

[potent quail]

there are 1000 other things new player will struggle on in this game if they dont understand stuff

that is the game

[silent garnet]

Tell that to all the dissapointed players

[potent quail]

ok

will do

[silent garnet]

Regen doesn't work they way it should, 2 dozen things they're just not gonna fix

its anti-play

you should have higher standards for the game you play

or you will get rs3

[amber sleet]

what part of regen isn't working?

[silent garnet]

Don't worry - i will keep our game safe

[scenic garden]

https://tenor.com/view/princess-bride-that-word-does-not-mean-that-inconceivable-gif-14144099

[silent garnet]

even though you accept slop

I will protec

[queen fable]

Shield slot=offhand but not all offhand=shields. Jagex is wild for not just making it all offhands.

[amber sleet]

btw big stonks for kandarin non soul harvest havers

[silent garnet]

named "guard" but it doesn't guard
named "defender" but it doesn't defend

Cool.

[amber sleet]

make use of the small pouch it's like 100k extra xp per hour

[potent quail]

it is one of the most buggy leagues they ever did

its still very fun though, and bugs existing is not "anti player design"

[livid slate]

To be fair it explicitly calls out a shield

Another pact explicitly calls out offhand

Two, actually

[potent quail]

its a fucking dagger
kinda clear thats not a shieldXD

[potent quail]

but yeah the fix here would be from renaming shield slot to offhand slot

that is a good point

[silent garnet]

Oh the antler guard is a dagger? Interesting.

(its not)

[potent quail]

yes out of the 2 you named i was talking about the antler

antler should count btw as a shield

but thats just me

[scenic garden]

well it's got negative defense bonuses, so not much of a shield

[silent garnet]

what about - hear me out - instead of going off of your FEELINGS we should use wordings that new and returning players can understand consistently?

[potent quail]

ok yeah looking at it i dont have any idea what it is

[scenic garden]

they did

[tawdry carbon]

its a CA to bop one of the idiots w this right

[livid slate]

I agree

[potent quail]

renaming shield slot to offhand slot

i think thats the suggestion that will fix the problem

[livid slate]

That’s why jagex said shield

[silent garnet]

We're 2 weeks into an 8 week league and people are STILL asking and confused about devil's element being a shield or not

[livid slate]

And not offhand

[silent garnet]

Its just an objective fact.

[scenic garden]

https://tenor.com/view/princess-bride-gif-5023039

[silent garnet]

If people are confused; then people are confused.

[potent quail]

ok lets go into a productive direction

What specific step should jagex do to solve this problem?

[silent garnet]

Either change the thing to stop their confusion or they're gonna keep coming here confused.

[scenic garden]

there will always be new players who are confused by the terminology. does that mean they shouldn't ask questions and learn?

[silent garnet]

This is so obviously a stupid question. You should do better.

[amber sleet]

what more should they change to fix this issue in your mind?

add a disclaimer on the item that says "this is not a shield"?

[potent quail]

this discussion isnt going anywhere

be goal oriented instead of just disagreeing

[silent garnet]

Wow

You got it the first time.

[amber sleet]

okay

so now

[silent garnet]

See - the answer is obvious and intuitive

[amber sleet]

should we also add that disclaimer to every weapon?

and also a disclaimer that says it's not armor?

[silent garnet]

Its not a weapon

[amber sleet]

and a disclaimer that it's not food?

[scenic garden]

"this is a sword"
"this is a dagger"
"this is a powered staff"
"this is a fish"

[silent garnet]

How many people ask this question?

None?

Oh, guess you're being stupid on purpose then.

Case closed.

Levels of idiocy beyond my ready comprehension tbh

[livid slate]

People who ask if the devils element works for thorns are the reason shampoo bottles have directions

[amber sleet]

how many people have asked if devil's element is a shield?

the thing that is a little spindly ball on a string?

[silent garnet]

This is such an absurd - intentionally offensive - question. You are being COMBATIVE by asking this.

[silent garnet]

Guy in the chat 5 mins ago bro. Go read it

Me 2 weeks ago

my wife RIGHT now asking me if a defender is a shield or not

or if the twisted buckler counts

[potent quail]

what is your specific solution to this problem?

[scenic garden]

no learning, only gaming

[amber sleet]

is that what they asked/said?

or are you actually failing to comprehend language again

for the second time i've seen you crash out in this chat?

go ahead and read it

tell me what they said

[deep basin]

how do i complete barbarian fishing training when i've picked barbarian gathering?

[silent garnet]

You keep asking disingenuous questions. Its a sign of bad faith argument. Stop being so combative.

[potent quail]

also my answer to the "just mark the item that its not a shield"

[amber sleet]

i'll tell you what he said because you don't want to read it again

[silent garnet]

I think you ahve ot equip them?

[amber sleet]

he said "devil's element doesn't work with thorns?"

not

"is devil's element a shield?"

[deep basin]

equip what?

[amber sleet]

the issue wasn't he didnt know it wasnt' a shield

the issue is he didn't read the pact that says it only works with shields

[scenic garden]

does it not work to just try catching at a harpoon spot? is there maybe a toggle for barb gathering?

[deep basin]

only this toggle

[silent garnet]

Sorry I misread, i got no clue.

[silent garnet]

Complete absurdity. Bad faith. Dumb.

[amber sleet]

?????????????????????

[scenic garden]

idk, barb gathering had a few bugs. not sure if they fixed it or how they did it.

[silent garnet]

I will explain this one time.

[deep basin]

oh, it does work now

it didn't work before

i guess they fixed it now

just tried fishing again and it worked

[livid slate]

https://tenor.com/view/michael-jackson-thriller-popcorn-popcorn-eating-mj-gif-57836842537152125

[steep arrow]

God im so happy I asked about minion b/c this little gremin is just puttin in work

[amber sleet]

explain it to me

[steep arrow]

Every task with bones is gonna net me 200 AFK superior dragon bones lol

[potent quail]

also the wiki doesnt know what a shield is

[livid slate]

Shit you got us there with that one

[static arch]

I, uh, didn't realize half a day of Butler crafting bowstrings would give a 12mil xp drop

and 75k bowstrings

[livid slate]

Wait, it’s that potent?

[amber sleet]

the issue here is though the wiki is called "official", it is written by players and not jagex

[livid slate]

12ish hours?

[silent garnet]

Asking "devil's element doesn't work with thorns?"

Is a sign of confusion. The writer of this statement is expressing a question due to his conflicting understandings.

He knows that wearing a shield procs thorns - this conflicts with his understanding of the devil's element.

He thinks that the devil's element SHOULD proc thorns because it goes in the shield slot (even though there isn't a shield slot - only an off-hand slot).

By asking this question he is demonstrating that his understanding of the devils element is that its a shield.

[static arch]

For bow strings, apparently.

[amber sleet]

He knows that wearing a shield procs thorns - this conflicts with his understanding of the devil's element. ```

Why are you assuming this?

[potent quail]

i think the problem here is that it never came up until today

the definition of a "shield" was never relevant

[static arch]

Vs 4 and 8 for bars/ores

[scenic garden]

3/4 of the way to filling the spool for task

[static arch]

It's 10k

[potent quail]

it is called shield slot on the wiki

[static arch]

Or do you mean you're 3/4?

[silent garnet]

That is a self-evident assumption.

[amber sleet]

lol

call me bad faith and then make leaps of logic

[potent quail]

and has this symbol ingame

[amber sleet]

the guy was told "no, it's not a shield" and then the asker didn't ask any futher questions

almost like being told it's not a shield cleared up the confusion

[scenic garden]

ah, well 3/4 of the way to filling the max spool then

[silent garnet]

Yea it did.

Why did he have to come to a discord to get that info? Why isn't it clear based on the game he is playing?

Because its confusing.

And I don't like that.

[static arch]

oh, I didn't realize there are multiple spools

[amber sleet]

it's really not confusing

most people just don't read things

the pact says it works with shields

the devil's element isn't a shield

[silent garnet]

Then why are people still asking this question 2 weeks into the league?

[scenic garden]

bowstring spool can go up to 100k capacity by combining them

[amber sleet]

he didn't ask that question

[static arch]

ahhhh

I gotcha

welp, only 2 spools so far

rip

[amber sleet]

you're calling me bad faith while twisting the words of the person you are trying to quote

[scenic garden]

tho idk what maniac would ever want to process 100k bowstrings

[amber sleet]

why am i even responding to you

[static arch]

well, guess I can make my fury and go farm out zenyte now

[amber sleet]

literally every time i see you post in here it's ragebait

[potent quail]

i think the big problem comes from this picture,

it looks like a shield to me here

but when the player wears it, you isntantly see its not a shield

[amber sleet]

holy fuck

[scenic garden]

it looks like a censer, which has never been a shield

[potent quail]

the left picture does not look like a censor

thats my point

[scenic garden]

well that would be a top-down view

[potent quail]

exactly

thats where the confusion comes from

[simple marsh]

hey guys does the devils element work with thorns?

[potent quail]

perfekt comedic timing

[late helm]

Honestly I thought all items in the Shield Slot counted as shields or that the wording was offhand or something

[amber sleet]

offhand is the wording for a few other pacts

but not for thorns

[fair swallow]

just did a scaled solo 4 man cox got 96k points with a white light double seeds

love it lmfao

[amber sleet]

thorns says shield specifically

[potent quail]

also i jsut found this tab

this may be the ingame definition of sheildsXD

[simple marsh]

Yeah but the devils element looks like a shield

[late helm]

That’s probably what I was confused by

[potent quail]

oh you werent joking lol

you jsut missed a massive discussion about this, with tons of rage

so your question was perfectly timed

[simple marsh]

don’t try and censer me

[amber sleet]

he is joking

[late helm]

I can’t tell if you are trolling now

[potent quail]

i only do one liners
anything beyond that is to much for my brain

[simple marsh]

the arguments over semantics in here is endlessly entertaining

[scenic garden]

wait why does it have 5 elemental things on it 🤔 what's yellow?

[amber sleet]

piss element

[potent quail]

🤔

[scenic garden]

ofc carry on

[simple marsh]

piss runes pls gagex

I want to cast piss wave

[potent quail]

secret hint for a mage rework/extension?

thats jsut normal gauntlet?

[late helm]

I believe it I just didn’t think too much about it

[crystal kelp]

Everything is a shield if you're brave enough

[scenic garden]

I would have expected both but it does seem like they have separate CAs on the wiki
https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/The_Gauntlet#Combat_Achievements

[copper skiff]

for water thorns build is ice barrage or water surge better to use

[crystal kelp]

Piss

[scenic garden]

water surge if you're also using the air regen node

[scenic garden]

so this community is just a hive mind lol

[potent quail]

yeha perfect cg would have sucked

perfect gauntlet still sucks but a bit less

is this good enough? or should i farm 3 more armor seeds

[spring cipher]

yellow crystal armour is piss armour

yes

[potent quail]

for thorns, what are good gloves before the zenyte ones from doom

confliction?

[scenic garden]

confliction is the upgrade from bracer

[amber sleet]

is ur armor broken?

why does it say 0

[potent quail]

plugin bugged

[spring cipher]

if u have main game doom experience u can rush the gloves

[potent quail]

never done it

[amber sleet]

should be fine

[short cave]

dude pls how is agility still so painful with leagues boosted exp rates

[amber sleet]

i have no main game experience with most endgame and it's all been piss as the worst build in this league for me

so it should be ez for mage thorns

[potent quail]

handful of skills that always suck

[amber sleet]

just send it

[potent quail]

plan is getting 4 more points to get the water mage half, then everythign truly should be free

thermy
3jads
1 deep delve?
toxic blowpipe
DHL

seem like the easy tasks

[spring cipher]

hopefully trying them out in leagues will motivate you guys to try it main game

https://tenor.com/view/erm-twitch-emote-twitch-emote-7tv-gif-15932415906993918120

[potent quail]

thats the planXD but pre league was very burned out and just did long afk stuff

[amber sleet]

leagues and main game are different games for me

[hazy anvil]

Anyone interested in trading fight pit wins for achievement diary?

[amber sleet]

leagues is about doing all the things

[torpid trench]

are you guaranteed the quadrant at 25kc of echo thermy, or is it 50/50 between the two?

[amber sleet]

main game is about experiencing all the things

[spring cipher]

50 kc

[amber sleet]

i'm going to get to it all eventually but i like to take my time with quests and stuff there

[spring cipher]

its 1/25

[torpid trench]

oh right

[spring cipher]

if u go dry

worst u get is double rate

[torpid trench]

Regardless, my point stands

so at 50kc dry, you get both?

[spring cipher]

yep

[torpid trench]

dope

[potent quail]

also really should have made the bracers of suffering

[torpid trench]

Now I just need to make the kills less than 5mins long

[weary shadow]

What relics do you have?

[spring cipher]

yea leagues is more like

which is good

lets people see what stuff there is in store for them

[queen thicket]

That's what I tell ppl

It's good for getting people comfortable with seeing things in the content

[spring cipher]

for sure

i think people should just expect to plank and die when learning lol

[short cave]

cant wait for the poll to remove agility

[spring cipher]

no

you

[weary shadow]

As in run energy?

[queen thicket]

We've had five leagues of no run energy

[spring cipher]

its my first 99 and i still have the untrimmed cape

[queen thicket]

It is ok

[potent quail]

agility to 99 is ok though

the takss for 50 mil are a ooproblem thjough

[short cave]

one task i will not be doing this league lmfao

[weary shadow]

It is the main reason I took hotfoot

[potent quail]

like 50 mil construction

this is just 6 hours of making tables

no shortcut

no smart choice you can make to make it faster

[short cave]

how is mahogany homes for construction?

[weary shadow]

Easy

[toxic vortex]

Depends

[potent quail]

less exp per hour
more exp per plank

[toxic vortex]

It's a cheese fest if you only unlock asgarnia

[static arch]

4kc zenyte, let's gooo

[weary shadow]

I think it drops off past 90, but less click intensive and can be very limited depending on your regions where it sends you

[potent quail]

it gives less exp at higher lvls?

[covert night]

whats the x times for hallowed marks in leagues?

[weary shadow]

Less dopamine

You go from 1/2 task to a level to 5 or 6

[torpid trench]

waterthorn nt great here

[amber sleet]

i was getting shitloads of them from looting floor 5 chest

[smoky raft]

Should be x8?

[granite laurel]

do abby demons not exist with culling spree or

[smoky raft]

I believe they're counted as "minigame points", in a similar vein to marks of grace

[smoky raft]

need to be getting a task from a master that can assign them

[granite laurel]

dura..can? no?

[smoky raft]

They changed the "all masters assign all tasks" thing (which was silly imo)

[granite laurel]

idk its been a while

1200pts at 3options each and no abbys

[weary shadow]

I went full mage gear for Thermy once I had 100% prayer pen it was a lot easier

[granite laurel]

[smoky raft]

... I feel the need to ask

Do you have 85 slayer?

[granite laurel]

yeah, almost 86

[smoky raft]

like actually 85 or 75 w/ Abundance

[granite laurel]

actually

[smoky raft]

ok, just making sure lmao

[potent quail]

also my experience, abby demons come up really rarely even with culling spree

[smoky raft]

yeah you should be able to get an abby task from duradel

[smoky raft]

bad rng ig

[granite laurel]

just want to do sire aa

[queen thicket]

Making greater magical balances

[granite laurel]

fakest 8% I've ever seen

[queen thicket]

Btw

Just needs money

[potent quail]

thats faster then tables?

[queen thicket]

Depends on regions

[smoky raft]

tables w/ butler are faster iirc

[queen thicket]

Less dog shit cuz it doesn't have to rely on Butler

More brain off

[smoky raft]

but that requires kandarin

[weary shadow]

Kekkers do you have all the "options" in the slayer reward tree on. You can turn a load off including bosses to help get the task easier if you have the slayer relic.

[queen thicket]

Making construction not awful by making it so I don't have to juggle my butler makes me a happier construction person

Since money is no issue

[smoky raft]

elemental balances are great but I'm like 10m gp short of 99 and I don't have any super quick money makers

[queen thicket]

Rip

[potent quail]

whats exp pe rhour with balances?

[smoky raft]

I think I'm gonna do ore stalls into runite weapons for some smithing xp, then sell those weaps to bandit duty free

[queen thicket]

Not sure off top of my head

Apparently base game can be around 400k from what I'm seeing

[potent quail]

400k per hours?

oh base game

[queen thicket]

Yea

Saw a couple people say around that

But they were foot pedaling

[potent quail]

so 6.4 mil

[torpid trench]

[smoky raft]

keep at it! any kill could be your last, and you're already more than 1/10th of the way to the pity drop!

[torpid trench]

stupid quadrant better be worth this misery

[potent quail]

omg i have been tping to house between runs to heak

i have FLASK

[smoky raft]

I don't think I can stress just how game changing it is

[weary shadow]

The staff is great

[queen thicket]

Trying to figure out what to do that isn't thorns range

[smoky raft]

thorns mage

[potent quail]

do air ballista

[torpid trench]

blindbag thorns using dinhs

[pure karma]

is this worth 19 hrs of my life?

[queen thicket]

that sounds so bad that it might work

i'd need dinhs first though

[weary shadow]

What are you mining phage?

[pure karma]

stars

[weary shadow]

Do iron

[pure karma]

5 dihns

[torpid trench]

no

[smoky raft]

no endless harvest?

[torpid trench]

just dihns as mh

[weary shadow]

Or the mining minigame

[pure karma]

nope

[smoky raft]

(megamind face)

[queen thicket]

you can do upwards of 3 dinhs i think

equipped, inventory, kitted one

[pure karma]

ill take EH from now on every league but i have abundance

[torpid trench]

IM FREEEE

[weary shadow]

Now get the offhand lol

[torpid trench]

For what? its useless

im a thorns build, its not a shield

[weary shadow]

Style points

[torpid trench]

No points

no style?

I wont ever equip it

so its not even fashion

[weary shadow]

(It's a joke)

I think it's good if you ever want to try out wind though

[potent quail]

there are bosses where thorns never triggers

or basicly never

[torpid trench]

yeah like thermy

[weary shadow]

Yes lol so get it so you can keep killing thermy (nope)

[torpid trench]

Id sooner gargle rusty roofing nails than grind more echo thermy

insanely boring fight

[potent quail]

can you ignore mechanics? or do you must do the whole stepping thing

[amber sleet]

echo thermy may be boring but is it as boring as ourania altar runecrafting?

count your blessings

[pure karma]

i would rather zmi than have to do bloods the slow way

[amber sleet]

what is the xp rate on mory blood altar?

i was considering it but havent tested yet

[pure karma]

for some reason it gives half the xp as zeah

[potent quail]

with or without map?

[amber sleet]

without

[potent quail]

(dont=

[amber sleet]

i mean i don't have ourania tp either

im just running back and forth

[pure karma]

you have a poh

[amber sleet]

surely it can't be much worse?

[near magnet]

corrupted gauntlet optimal build is just 1tick powered staff + 100% pray pen right?

[pure karma]

get 99 con and put the portal in your house

[amber sleet]

i tried using poh tp

the rate was lower

[potent quail]

yeah anda bit of regen

[pure karma]

thats wild

[amber sleet]

it's also less afk

[potent quail]

btw cure me is so nice at zulrah

[fluid fable]

10 tempoross kills has me returning the thought that eternal sus might be kinda mid

[amber sleet]

eternal sus isn't good because food is hard to get

it's good because you can eat forever and inv space means nothing

[toxic vortex]

Meh

[velvet hornet]

thorns wont work with element offhand right

[naive needle]

did anything happen in the second month of previous leagues?

[velvet hornet]

ha to be an actual shield

[fluid fable]

For me its good coz it reduces how much farming u need tl do

[amber sleet]

correct

[toxic vortex]

Correct

[fluid fable]

In the form of. Wtf is a sara/super restore

[pure karma]

echo yama is coming

[toxic vortex]

What do you mean exactly?

Like some secret reveal halfway through?

[naive needle]

that's just a rumour isnt it?

[toxic vortex]

Yes it is

But no, there didn't have any mid-league surprises last year. Never have

[static arch]

1kc guardian boots ❤️

[naive needle]

thought so, might unsub if they're done with the league

a few more respecs would be nice

[smoky raft]

see ya next league ig

[naive needle]

might come back after leagues, i noticed I have about 30m worth of league points

[amber sleet]

that won't be 30m after this league ends

most likely

[smoky raft]

^

gotta wait a bit if you're just looking to cash in

[naive needle]

yeah, still hoping for at least 15m

[amber sleet]

maybe if u wait for a while after

[naive needle]

broke af on main acc

[potent quail]

next year bonds will be 22 mil

[amber sleet]

just kill vorkath or cg

[potent quail]

calling it now

[amber sleet]

ez money

[spring cipher]

10 more hours of afking to go

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1416650064566157393/1499959281791795270/image.png?ex=69f6b170&is=69f55ff0&hm=9535b5038448f9bda4f1340c350892a503497a0c30971fad686d7a9062a11246&

[cyan cobalt]

Oh boy finally got tier 7

Huge decision time

[potent quail]

dont make the wrong choiceXD

[cyan cobalt]

What do I reload into gamerssss

[potent quail]

what are your relics?

and regions

[spring cipher]

it really depends on ur preferences

[amber sleet]

ngl

[cyan cobalt]

I have Kandarin and Desert so far

[amber sleet]

either larcenist or soul harvest probably

[torpid trench]

I am not strong enough yet to ignore all mechanics, so im doing the stepping, the prayer flicking, splashing like 50% of the time because he has cracked defence, and thorns isnt working on him

It was not a good time

[cyan cobalt]

Why Soul Harvest instead of Transmute?

[potent quail]

options are: woodsman larcensit, soul harvest and eternal sustenance

[pure karma]

rcing suck balls

[cyan cobalt]

I figured Transmute would be a good prayer and rc solve

[amber sleet]

rcing does suck balls

[pure karma]

no matter how much you think you can cheese it, lamps only reach 92

[torpid trench]

If you want prayer and RC, take soul harvest

but you have desert

[amber sleet]

but if u dont care about 50m rc then larcenist and transmute are both a lot more functional everywhere else

[torpid trench]

so rc is solved

[pure karma]

this is from every diary lamp and quest reward

[spring cipher]

soul would solve that, trasmute would solve rune problems early on

[smoky raft]

yeah but then you have to play gotr

[cyan cobalt]

So Soul Harvest to get RC super fast and then I can make wrath runes I guess?

[potent quail]

Woodsman: solves hunter
SOul harvest is the ONLY RC boost in the entire league, if you dont get it 99 RC will be hell
Larcensit is very good with kand: solves all clue gain and tons of money
Eternal sustenance allows you to play pact builds that dont have healing

[cyan cobalt]

I was just going to transmute up to Wrath

[amber sleet]

just a few more hours...

[potent quail]

transmute is pointless if you have butler

[pure karma]

https://klipy.com/gifs/smiling-friends-psychicpebbles-2--k01KQK8W11YVBK6QCTRXQ3S4EQE

suffering together

(i just wont rc)

[potent quail]

well theiving and rc are your lowest skills^^

[cyan cobalt]

I hate thieving lmfao

[covert wolf]

how do i actually pray against manticore?

[potent quail]

same but you have the hard decision to decide which of these 2 you hate more

[pure karma]

when the stuff is flying at you, switch

[covert wolf]

do i swap prayer when the projectile start launching or when it hit me

[amber sleet]

pray against the bottom thing then swap between the middle and top thing every next tick after it hits

[cyan cobalt]

Oh dude I think I gotta do Soul Harvest if you get soul shards from farming too lol

[potent quail]

my relics btw

Only thing that suck is hunter and construction

[potent quail]

you get enough shards from pvm alone

[pure karma]

construction is free with butler

[torpid trench]

You pray against the first one, then as soon as they start moving, you change

[potent quail]

oh cool
then why do i need to make tables for 6 HOURS?

doesnt feel free to me

[pure karma]

how much gold do you have

[cyan cobalt]

Yeah I think I'm doing Soul harvest and I just wont' care about 99 thieving

[potent quail]

not billions
maybe multiple 100 mils

[covert wolf]

i died to manticore most of the time need to fix that mistake

[potent quail]

need 250 m for crown

[pure karma]

do marble portals

[potent quail]

yeah not in the budget XD

[covert wolf]

isn't it just 25m?

[potent quail]

no

[velvet hornet]

wildy elite diary do i need to mine the rune then super heat it and then craft the scimy? or can i just bring some bars

[covert wolf]

eh?

[cyan cobalt]

Map of Alacrity it is

[potent quail]

The crystal crown is a purely cosmetic crown purchasable from the Lliann's Wares in Prifddinas's Ithell district for 250,000,000 coins.

[potent quail]

crown is a task in T

[covert wolf]

oof

[potent quail]

throne is 25 mil

[covert wolf]

tiran probably the most chaotic region to pick

[potent quail]

like pretty sure i have the 250 mil

[covert wolf]

i can see people failing cg and quit

[potent quail]

a part of these go into 50 mil smithing and crafting
Rest HA for cash

should be more then 250 mil i think?

[amber sleet]

u can't alch them

u need to sell to jungle store

[torpid trench]

Tir just turns leagues into a traditional ironman experience. Spoon CG or quit. Have way too much free gold until you need 10x what you have and have no good way to get more quickly. etc

[potent quail]

he byus for HA price?

[amber sleet]

not quite

[potent quail]

echo cg is super chill

[amber sleet]

she buys for like 15% less or something

with karamja gloves 3

also u cant sell shards

only the tele crystals

[potent quail]

OH SNAP

[sharp trellis]

heyy anyone have a chill leaugues fc i can join? 🙂

[potent quail]

good thing i didnt turn them into crystals yet thenXD

well shit thats only 75 mil gp then

well alrcensit is afk so just afk elves for longer

[amber sleet]

yeah i think ore is better gp if u have larcenist+transmute

but

a lot more aids to sell

not sure if onyx dragon bolts is better gp/hr or not

[potent quail]

no transmute

[amber sleet]

havent tested it

[potent quail]

soul harvest bloods, onyx bolts, if u did 200m thieve then sell teles yes
from point max chat

[covert wolf]

guess suffering and pray for revenant weapon isn't so bad after all

[unborn fossil]

anyone go a raidless regions? thinking going wildy - kand- asgarn

[potent quail]

soul harvest soul runes will probably be it for me