Oh no not like that
#leagues-general
austere mirage
i want auto cast on everything
shadow burrow
I have about 5000 cut dragon stone. Anyone know where I can sell them?
austere mirage
I have about 5000 cut dragon stone. Anyone know where I can sell them?
1600 coins from gem stalls
8m
but that is 5000 clicks to sell them 1 at once
Also congratz on the 99 crafting
austere mirage
I also need to go do 23 more ToBs for the points
ToBs?
modern ginkgo
Theatre of Blood
shadow burrow
1600 coins from gem stalls
Can’t find a gem stall that buys them. I think they have to seek that item to be able to sell It
austere mirage
Can’t find a gem stall that buys them. I think they have to seek that item to be...
Valamore doesnt buy them?
scenic garden
general store buys them
shadow burrow
Nope unfortunately
modern ginkgo
What genms?
austere mirage
i was looking at diamonds
modern ginkgo
I sell them at general stores and just hit 10/50 and spam click lol
austere mirage
offt
shy light
all the colors lol
austere mirage
all that profit gone!
austere mirage
all the colors lol
Ohhhhh i will take the blue set please
tame flax
wow wave 11 is tough
austere mirage
more prayer pen or
torn lynx
What do you have that you need prayer pen for
torn lynx
Prayer pen easy then
modern ginkgo
Is there a one handed staff that exists with tick speeds equal to powered staves I could grind for?
dense forge
Fastest you can go with a (unpowered) staff is 2 tick
pure karma
for nexs final phase, what do i pray?
modern ginkgo
When I pay attention ,yes
austere mirage
When I pay attention ,yes
Go for themy echo
velvet hornet
bro 1/20 for glacial tmatli.... im did enough to get my echo orb, then get the weapon from that then got a new task now im at 66 kills no tmatli
austere mirage
kick his ass and get the staff
modern ginkgo
I've played RS for years, it's only been the last couple years I've gotten really into it, but leagues has got me into bosses I've never done in all that time
modern ginkgo
I know thorns is cheating but it's been good practice
spring cipher
vroom
austere mirage
Where do i get ring of recoil from in bulk?
torn lynx
Where do i get ring of recoil from in bulk?
Pretty sure it's gunna be the old fashion way
torn lynx
Uhhh...magpie implings drop them noted!
If you have desert temp drops them sometimes...
Well, sapphire rings not recoils
deep basin
which runes are the best to sell?
i got like 250k soul runes from 100m runecraft
bloods?
kandarin,morytania, zeah
austere mirage
kandarin,morytania, zeah
deep basin
yeah, so definitely bloods
modern ginkgo
Just need godsword shard 1 and 3 and that's my bgs done 😄
modern ginkgo
Noice
austere mirage
modern ginkgo
99 party at my house in aldarin lmao
modern ginkgo
My comment still stands lmao
torn lynx
Just need godsword shard 1 and 3 and that's my bgs done 😄
You have the smithing level too right?
modern ginkgo
99
torn lynx
then glgl
modern ginkgo
butler bell op
torn lynx
Really is, he's on his way to getting me 50m crafting atm
austere mirage
trading Grimoire for Butlers Bell!
torn lynx
I don't think I would trade out butler even for another t8
austere mirage
where is the closest gold ore to a bank?
Karadin, Desert, Priff
stuck frost
I can’t get a kraken task for the life of me
indigo nimbus
eh?
torn lynx
Deconstruct it and put it back together
shy light
Gotr is slightly cracked with the pearls... both the points from the game AND the pearls are individually 8x. so you are getting 64x the pearls per game
next dust
gosh darn dobbys sock i must apologise
ive not been high alching fire runes when doing runecrafting
coarse geode
am i meant to be getting the mogre village elite clue step when i cant access the diving apparatus?
tame flax
for nexs final phase, what do i pray?
To a deity of your choosing
I usually go with Marimbo
indigo nimbus
What's the BiS shield I can get?
are you melee, range or mage?
tame flax
Regions more important question than combat styles
modern ginkgo
are you melee, range or mage?
Melee atm but do have full water mage
shy light
they said the regions
indigo nimbus
you want echo shield i think if youre going water mage
modern ginkgo
Echo shield yeah?
shy light
it's not a shield
it's an off-hand but not specifically a shield
that matters if someone is using throns
plain berry
for chopping 20 magic logs in varlamore - is it a specific tree i have to chop? was trying to do this week 1 and nothing was working
modern ginkgo
So it'll proc thorns yeah?
shy light
it will not
modern ginkgo
Oh
shy light
it's not a shield
it's an off-hand but it's not a shield
grab an obby shield from karamja
shy light
dense forge
Dragonfire shield for melee, arcane spirit shield for mage
rare hollow
toxic blowpipe counts as a thrown weapon yeah
dense forge
For bis, I think
modern ginkgo
Dragonfire shield for melee, arcane spirit shield for mage
Thank you
warm smelt
i hate sotetseg in hmt
warm smelt
the maze. everyone just wipes cuz nobody knows what to do
dense forge
Wait sorry, read your zones wrong. I don't think there's a specific mage shield in those zones.
rare hollow
learn then
i learnt it in leagues
got to lead in maze once but the concept is pretty simple
1st tile and 3rd tile row of tiles you wait a bit so everyone knows
and just run following the path to sote
thats what i was taught
if you dont keep running that tornado will eat people up
coarse geode
does anyone know if theres a way to get diving apparatus and fishbowl helm without pirate pete quest done?
i think this elite clue step is bugged
warm smelt
does anyone know if theres a way to get diving apparatus and fishbowl helm witho...
its free
just talk to the diver dude
he'll giveyou both
coarse geode
i talked to murphy theres no option for dive 🙁
warm smelt
weird
tired quiver
is the arma hilt bugged? 355 kc, 24 armor pieces, 22 blade pieces no hilt
spring cipher
im a league tobber
gotta learn it for main game hmt
how else are u gonna get ur scythe kits
spring cipher
lol
modern ginkgo
Oh thank you everyone btw
mental flame
is there mass worlds for cox?
modern ginkgo
Really appreciate everyone helping and not laughing at me not knowing
modern ginkgo
is there mass worlds for cox?
Yeah hover over them in world switcher
mental flame
oh thanks
modern ginkgo
There's some for pvm, cox, tob, etc
mental flame
sorry i meant for leagues 6
modern ginkgo
Yeah
Hover over leagues worlds
Some are dedicated to those I listed
685 for exmaple
mental flame
i see, thank you very much
upper ledge
So I can only get uniques from normal mode of raids? Not entry?
upper ledge
But I can’t like solo it
spring cipher
then go with a team
tob is the one raid thats meant for a team
like u just join a team to try it out
buoyant elk
any good money making methods with larceny?
scenic garden
How do I get the magic secateurs? Wiki says I need to buy them from Malignius Mortifier after beating tangleroot (which I assign I have since Fairy Tale 2 is autocompleted) but he's in Asgarnia. I have KTM.
spring cipher
then u dont get it
wet meadow
How do I get the magic secateurs? Wiki says I need to buy them from Malignius Mo...
i tried to get a pair, supposed to get them from fairy queen in zanaris, but she wouldnt give me a pair
keen crane
Can you PvP in leagues?
wet meadow
Can you PvP in leagues?
yeah, griefers do, its a pvm death. no reward
keen crane
yeah, griefers do, its a pvm death. no reward
Wdym like they move NPC's to safe areas or something
spring cipher
How do I get the magic secateurs? Wiki says I need to buy them from Malignius Mo...
hold on
does perdu sell it
wet meadow
if u choose wildy, u can attack and kill people. since we are all ironmen... you dont get anything. all your items drop to your gravestone. hence the griefers only pvp in leagues
lone bloom
solid flower
How to get agile pot 4 when i have tir and mory as my unlocked areas?
keen crane
if u choose wildy, u can attack and kill people. since we are all ironmen... you...
So rune fountain is still technically unsafe
lone bloom
How to get agile pot 4 when i have tir and mory as my unlocked areas?
Loot from mixology in varlamore
Get the adept potion reward
wet meadow
So rune fountain is still technically unsafe
its the wilderness, mate. whole wildy is
keen crane
Fairs
solid flower
Get the adept potion reward
Oh right just gotta work out if i can do mixology
scenic garden
Oh right just gotta work out if i can do mixology
60 herblore and an absolute ton of herbs
lone bloom
Oh right just gotta work out if i can do mixology
Super braindead minigame, with 5x rewards it only takes 5 min to get the agil pots
Mixology plugin tells u exactly what to do as well
solid flower
Mixology plugin tells u exactly what to do as well
Ah cool ty. Can you do it with the boosted herb lvl from relic?
scenic garden
the only thing I've heard about that not working for is slayer
lone bloom
Ah cool ty. Can you do it with the boosted herb lvl from relic?
Should work. You got abundance?
solid flower
Should work. You got abundance?
yep
lone bloom
I’m almost 99 herblore just from butlers bell loot lol
99 agil from hotfoot exclusively
Farming is still my only unsolved skill at 90 rn and to I’m max caped
And then*
pure karma
whoops. i went afk for a while fight cave and never turned auto attack back on
thorns'd the whole thing in 20 minutes
lone bloom
u died hahahaha
hushed river
Commander Fullore isnt giving me the 2 kingdom divided lamps, am I missing a step or something here
late helm
if u choose wildy, u can attack and kill people. since we are all ironmen... you...
Wtf is your bio dude 
velvet hornet
doign qquests in leagues i hvnt done in main game also feels bad lol
pure karma
its a meme people do
fleet chasm
What’s the move region wise for water / thorns mage? I’ve got 4/5 unlocked about to have my 5th.. I’ve got Varlamore, Karamja, Kourend & kandarin right now
pastel plaza
Rune and addy drags are not available right?
pure karma
What’s the move region wise for water / thorns mage? I’ve got 4/5 unlocked about...
pick your favorite dt2 boss for virtus
or ancestral, idk
i wouldnt do mory from a personal stance. a lot of tasks are tied to farming barrows
late helm
its a meme people do
But why would someone joke about that… like it makes him sound like a 
pure karma
But why would someone joke about that… like it makes him sound like a <:thurgo:8...
the internet has raised strange people
lone bloom
Like a thurgo?
late helm
Like a thurgo?
Like a 🍕
lone bloom
A pizza?
dense forge
A pizza?!
late helm
Without the pepperoni
austere mirage
give me all your gold bars!
next dust
dobby's sock
tawdry carbon
worth doing tai bwo wannai trio if i wanna work on fishing+cooking?
i have EH but not hotfoot, karamwbarnbles are best right?
fleet chasm
@pure karma but for thorns don’t you want def bonus might be a dumb question but I thought that’s what a lot of ppl were doing
pure karma
you dont have to finish it for them
late helm
worth doing tai bwo wannai trio if i wanna work on fishing+cooking?
i have EH bu...
I did it - not bad exp boost either
next dust
you dont have to finish it for them
Phage the Untouchable, that you?
cursive glacier
give me all your gold bars!
thorny terrace
lol
austere mirage
i need 1k
thorny terrace
guess hydra ate gandalf the white before i came
scenic garden
seems like the "get a gem from a gorak" task is bugged, cause I got the task from the first gorak kill without getting a gem drop lol
thorny terrace
seems like the "get a gem from a gorak" task is bugged, cause I got the task fro...
i think the task counts when it rolls from the gem drop table (which does not necessarily drop a gem... goraks are fucking weird)
scenic garden
i think the task counts when it rolls from the gem drop table (which does not ne...
well all I saw on the ground was big bones
which I guess could have been the nothing drop >_>
why is there a nothing drop
dense forge
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=giWy_eYTGkQ&t=61s
Looks like radiant oath with a serpent helm
modern ginkgo
Shadowflame quadrant?
spring cipher
ye
modern ginkgo
Ohhhh that's why I need to do thermo
tame flax
i should swap over to thorns
modern ginkgo
RIP
next dust
levelling update
cursive glacier
i should afk mith dragons for visage + dfull helm
austere mirage
if i could, id swap barbarian to afk
next dust
EH > Abundance > Barb*
late helm
if i could, id swap barbarian to afk
This.
scenic garden
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=giWy_eYTGkQ&t=61s
does the earthquake damage reflect with thorns/suffering?
austere mirage
is EH the afk one?
late helm
I honestly thought people who chose the barbarian thing just did it to look funny
next dust
who cares about gp
tawdry carbon
I did it - not bad exp boost either
got it, thanks.
coarse pond
Where is deaths coffer in leagues?
austere mirage
Nah i did it so i wouldnt need to pick tools
dense forge
Barb is good once you get to the high level stuff
late helm
Barb is good once you get to the high level stuff
But when do you need the high level stuff if you just go transmute instead?
pure karma
i dont see big use in Abundance unless youre going for leaderboards
i took abundance like an idiot
i wish i could reset everything
tawdry carbon
i dont see big use in Abundance unless youre going for leaderboards
So i came into this league blind -- my logic was abundance +10 levels gets me a lot of unlocks a lot faster... which it did.
However, i didnt realize that theres a huge gap between last relic and dragon cup, so now im wishing i took EH and could ahve used my reload elsewhere.
dense forge
But when do you need the high level stuff if you just go transmute instead?
When you want the XP faster than EH
modern ginkgo
Okay well I'ma go finish hellhounds then roll for smoke devils 😄
next dust
yh like who cares about +10 levels at 99
scenic garden
Where is deaths coffer in leagues?
anywhere you can access death's domain. one entrance is just west of the pacts totem in civ
coarse pond
anywhere you can access death's domain. one entrance is just west of the pacts t...
thanks
late helm
When you want the XP faster than EH
But iron ore, teaks, karambwans are still faster than the higher level resources aren’t they?
I guess you could harvest those faster
But are you going from 3m xp/he to 3.2m xp/hr?
tawdry carbon
yh like who cares about +10 levels at 99
im guessing thats why they added the bonus xp. its not negilible but yeah its a painful thing to reload into EH when youre at a lot of 99s.
austere mirage
EH, Hotfoot, Bank, Trans, Larc, Culling, Soul(reload), Flask
That would be my pick now
so 2 i would change
6 the same which isnt too bad
humble escarp
i dont see big use in Abundance unless youre going for leaderboards
It's the opposite. Abundance helps most with getting to the fun stuff
velvet hornet
i still cant actiavet the statue of ates after the death isle quest? what am i doing dumb here
plucky pine
is anyone else not seeing a "build" option on the masoleum bridge in morytania?
creature of fenkenstrain is autocompleted and i have the level
humble escarp
Any skill requirement ttakes like 3x less xp to reach
pure karma
is anyone else not seeing a "build" option on the masoleum bridge in morytania?
its weird
late helm
i still cant actiavet the statue of ates after the death isle quest? what am i d...
You need to go to the chests
modern ginkgo
Okay
austere mirage
i still cant actiavet the statue of ates after the death isle quest? what am i d...
do you have the water rune?
dense forge
is anyone else not seeing a "build" option on the masoleum bridge in morytania?
Are you coming from the island side or the mainland side?
plucky pine
got it, trying from island side
velvet hornet
do you have the water rune?
nope didnt kn owit wa thing
velvet hornet
You need to go to the chests
chests int he villa or something?
dense forge
Yeah I had the same issue lol
late helm
chests int he villa or something?
Did you get the icon? There is a series of steps to get it after the quest
velvet hornet
https://youtu.be/3gnq9so1r80?t=771
ty ty ty
old tapir
wonder if i should go for a visage
shy light
anyone need it?
austere mirage
Oh yeah what level do you need for visage on a dragon shield?
austere mirage
Ah its smithing not crafting 
fleet chasm
What’s the best gear set up for water thorns mage? Looking for full def bonuses or a mixture of like def/mage gear?
tame flax
mime set
austere mirage
What’s the best gear set up for water thorns mage? Looking for full def bonuses ...
Occult necklace, Ring of suffering? ||Maybe?|| Zen Bracelet? the rest idk
tame flax
i would advise a shield of some sort
scenic garden
What’s the best gear set up for water thorns mage? Looking for full def bonuses ...
you want as much def as possible for thorns
hazy anvil
Anyone know of any good way to train smithing without relics? So far I'm gathering steel bars from steel dragons and smithing those.
modern ginkgo
Man I'm not built for bossing sometimes
scenic garden
same
modern ginkgo
I focus too much on cerbs ghosts I forget to move out of the lava lmao
Should I full tank it or full Ahrims it and go for water mage?
scenic garden
Anyone know of any good way to train smithing without relics? So far I'm gatheri...
do you have tirranwn? if so, get an armour seed and spam making the armour
modern ginkgo
Or full ahrims with trident
austere mirage
Anyone know of any good way to train smithing without relics? So far I'm gatheri...
Get 1000 Dragonstones, Get 1000 Gold bars!
both will level up
i doubt its a good idea
hazy anvil
do you have tirranwn? if so, get an armour seed and spam making the armour
Asg/Kourend/Wilderness
austere mirage
do you have tirranwn? if so, get an armour seed and spam making the armour
Tell me more about this armour seed
plucky pine
any way to stop regen'd runes from going in ur inv?
scenic garden
Tell me more about this armour seed
1 armour seed can make the helm, 2 for legs, 3 for body. each gives better xp. you can make the armour piece then revert and repeat, just need a supply of crystal shards, which most people are gathering from elves using larcenist.
scenic garden
Asg/Kourend/Wilderness
gold at blast furnace would probly be your best bet then
get goldsmith gauntlets
austere mirage
Ahhhhhhh i might need thieving up
hazy anvil
gold at blast furnace would probly be your best bet then
Isn't BF in Frem?
obsidian cape
just got 2 pets from the same boss in 100kc lol
scenic garden
ah right, it is frem
and I guess goldsmith gauntlets need frem AND desert, yet another thing they didn't compensate for
late helm
Ahhhhhhh i might need thieving up
It’s a common path for larcenist users because you can sit afk and get multiple crystals at a time
uneven laurel
How does CoX purple rate work in the League? I know how the other two raids work, it's the CoX spaghetti I'm unsure on
scenic garden
thieve elves for enhanced teleport seeds > take them to the bar to break them down to shards > repeat
tawdry carbon
wait so max points = 68k or so?
tawdry carbon
so you have ~3k of tasks to not complete if going for dragon cup?
pale moon
I wasn't able to hit kraken at all with melee so I assume if you can hit them you can kill them
swift gust
Endless Harvest is one of the best relics ever but WTF is the pathing when fishing. Shit takes you to Narnia when going to a new spot.
peak crypt
I honestly haven't even tried, but can you get your 99 cape in a skill if you have the 99 using the extra 10 levels from abundance? I'm still assuming you have to get your base level to 99, but that'd be pretty cool
austere mirage
get goldsmith gauntlets
i dont have varrock for the steel gloves
scenic garden
wait so max points = 68k or so?
max points is 96,040 with global + varlamore + karamja + the 3 area picks
fickle thistle
You gotta do like 65% of the tasks
It’s really achievable if you want it that bad
tawdry carbon
max points is 96,040 with global + varlamore + karamja + the 3 area picks
oh so i have a ton of wiggle rom
pale moon
Is there a better melee weapon under 1kg available to me in Kandarin, Asgarnia or Morytania than the abyssal tentacle? I feel like I do no damage to cerberus and i'm really struggling to kill her
tawdry carbon
ok
tawdry carbon
Is there a better melee weapon under 1kg available to me in Kandarin, Asgarnia o...
under 1kg is tough :[[
pale moon
yeah it feels like i have no weapon choices. it especially sucks that the whips don't really have special attacks and the light weapon build really wants you to spam special attacks
modern ginkgo
Actually gonna rage at cerberus in a min lmao
tawdry carbon
oof
pale moon
Actually gonna rage at cerberus in a min lmao
real
scenic garden
like 90% of the weapons in the game count as heavy weapons lol
pale moon
frustrating that the boss can just block you off from being able to melee her with the lava pools
modern ginkgo
I managed to time dodging the lava
scenic garden
it's ridiculously unbalanced
modern ginkgo
Didn't realise I was next to an invisble wall
WEnt to step back, didn't move and died
tawdry carbon
Is there a better melee weapon under 1kg available to me in Kandarin, Asgarnia o...
bro every wep with a decent spec you could get is 1.8kg lmao
tawdry carbon
abby dagger maybe?
pale moon
bro every wep with a decent spec you could get is 1.8kg lmao
I was using the dragon dagger for most of the game until i recently got the whip which feels very marginally better if im honest
pale moon
abby dagger maybe?
i wish, if only it wasnt like 1/5k drop rate
scenic garden
maybe you could see about making weapon poison?
tawdry carbon
:[ sorry
pale moon
maybe the answer is just farm abyssal demons for 10 hours lol
scenic garden
why is that 1/6400 drop rate in leagues...
toxic vortex
yeah dds/abby dagger is about it really
modern ginkgo
Could I use full ahrims, obby shield and trident to beat echo cerb?
I've got nothing better than that atm mage wise
austere mirage
its how i am doing bosses
i go in and get my ass kicked
then i sit and decide if i could do it better to win
or run away and cry
fleet chasm
Do I need pacts in trident anymore if I primarily use the shadowflame quadrant? Seems like the healing from it is just insane
torn acorn
I keep getting Ancestral pieces when at this point I'm just trying to unlock Augury 😭
spring cipher
xD
chilly imp
Im currently running with 75% prsyer pen with KMW as my region. Done with demonic gorilla tasks. Is there any other pvm tasks Id want prayer pen? Because Im looking to shed some points off it for more points elsewhere
chilly imp
Would 50% be fine for doom?
spring cipher
u only need 1 point in prayer pen to one shot the grubs
chilly imp
Oh yeah youre right. I just remembered how it went with gridmaster. Thanks!
spring cipher
ye
slim eagle
does Endless Harvest work on blessed bone shards when mining
spring cipher
if ur a thorns mage build u want confliction anyways
austere mirage
Im currently running with 75% prsyer pen with KMW as my region. Done with demon...
you could do Echo Thermy
austere mirage
if ur a thorns mage build u want confliction anyways
Confliction?
spring cipher
Confliction?
[[confliction gauntlet]]
obsidian bluffBOT
Wiki links found:
https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Confliction_gauntlets
scenic garden
does Endless Harvest work on blessed bone shards when mining
yes
austere mirage
[[confliction gauntlet]]
Ah yeah i am working my way to that
spring cipher
for magic
scenic garden
it works on 99% of mining , woodcutting, and fishing afaik
spring cipher
i need the tormented first
doom drops the item as a whole
austere mirage
then i can get the cloth
cursive glacier
upgrade items just drop as the final item for pretty much every scenario i can think of
spring cipher
u can get back to it later for the points
cursive glacier
unless the base item is global ig
warm smelt
So looking at rewards calculator. The best drop rate for tob would be spamming 3 man normals?
Speed wise?
spring cipher
So looking at rewards calculator. The best drop rate for tob would be spamming 3...
5 man hmts
is probably best purple/h
cause if one person pulls a purple
everyone pulls one
warm smelt
Oh. Damn
spring cipher
so its basically guanreteed every raid
fleet chasm
Anyone know if I need pacts in trident anymore if I primarily use the shadowflame quadrant? Seems like the healing from it is just insane
livid slate
i did like 2-3 regs and rest hmt
Sadge
scenic garden
4 kits and no scythes, rip
livid slate
Oof
cursive glacier
any good things in those dossiers?
spring cipher
spring cipher
any good things in those dossiers?
contracts to do basically awakened yama
theres 5 different kinds
and then u can recolour ur oathplate
cursive glacier
no 15 oathplate contract then
spring cipher
u need to defeat all 5 different contracts
uh
wdym
oh yea no i didnt pull oathplate contract
cursive glacier
you can get a contract that gives guaranteed oathplate, and they drop 15 at a time
spring cipher
yea i didnt pull those
cursive glacier
so you could get a dossier that gives you 15 oathplate if youre lucky
indigo nimbus
did you always have to enter your bank pin every world hop? i seem to remember you dont
cursive glacier
which is really funny since you'd much rather just have 5x drop rate on dossiers or w/e instead of 5x quantity
spring cipher
did you always have to enter your bank pin every world hop? i seem to remember y...
thats a game setting
cyan shale
Hey chat look what I can do
gusty tuskBOT
livid slate
I’m thinking of making an alt to try new relic/region combos
indigo nimbus
thats a game setting
where can i see that?
smoky raft
smh senny spam
cyan shale
lol we finally added the slash command
tame flax
cant believe jagex forgot to boost barrows droprate
torn acorn
4 ancestral tops before augury 😭
latent grail
Hey chat look what I can do
Is there a dedicated channel for looking for group within leagues?
I'm trying to learn some Tob 😄
golden stag
How is phosani's nightmare on the water thorns build? Never done it before in main game
dusk cedar
Is anyone else missing ore from mlm? I put 26 paydirt into the hopper and only got 18 ore and 3 nuggets. that's 5 pieces missing.
tawdry carbon
wooo afk skilling
tawdry carbon
Is there a dedicated channel for looking for group within leagues?
I'm trying t...
u dont really learn tob in leagues u just brute force it
just join a random team
its kinda dumb but nobodys rly playingit correctly
lol
worn canopy
Anything better than guard for Medium clues ?
latent grail
u dont really learn tob in leagues u just brute force it
just join a random team
still kinda wanna learn how to brute forcce it i guess
tawdry carbon
yeah just go to the tob world
theres a bunch of parties up all the time
they take anyone and brute force it
golden stag
Anything better than guard for Medium clues ?
i think gnomes?
tame flax
i feel like theres no point in just going for 86% or w/e for barrows on leagues
hazy anvil
How is phosani's nightmare on the water thorns build? Never done it before in ma...
Good until the final phase where you have to melee the boss.
tame flax
and just blasting enough to get over, or even 100%
tawdry carbon
sent u a dm @latent grail with some resources. give em a once over and just send it w some ppl
everyone is so op in leagues its a walk in the park
even hmt
u can play completely wrong and win lol
twilit laurel
I've done all the achievement diaries and collected the combat achievements. Anyone know of any other free lamp xp I can put into Runecrafting? regions are KAD
hazy anvil
cant believe jagex forgot to boost barrows droprate
It is boosted wdym
tame flax
It is boosted wdym
[[joke]]
obsidian bluffBOT
Wiki links found:
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tame flax
everyone is so op in leagues its a walk in the park
unless you get the worst teams like i have :/
people hoarding the verzik staff and not speccing
tawdry carbon
unless you get the worst teams like i have :/
people hoarding the verzik staff a...
lol u can beat p1 verzik even without the fuckin staff
its so dumb
i had that happen and we just brute forced p1 verzik
old tapir
i must have chestplate 
https://i.imgur.com/Wj2dDnY.png
past birch
i must have chestplate <a:MYAAA:662056872140079104> https://i.imgur.com/Wj2dDnY....
How long is the making process?
old tapir
well i've been mining the shale for like 5 hours
and now i'm bonking
which seems relatively fast
cursive glacier
just get lucky
old tapir
and where are your other pieces
cursive glacier
yama is holding on to them for the time being
old tapir
i can see why they downgraded the pact point from radiant
they've seemingly made dossiers way rarer
during gridmaster they were 1/1.1 or something
cursive glacier
they should be main game rates i think
old tapir
the smithing part of this is actually really cool
modern ginkgo
32 echo amoxi kills, still no infernal tecptal 🙁
tough finch
@small flower what have you ended up running since the meme was bugged? I went fire/water mage and having a pretty fun time
small flower
mage has rolled from fire to earth to water/thorns, melee guy rerolled once to powerstaff to get through whisperer, and i've kinda been skilling more than anything else XD
earth was honestly pretty disappointing
modern ginkgo
Oh wait, I've got glacial temotli is that her normal one?
small flower
yea glacial temotli is the regular drop
old tapir
hell yeah https://i.imgur.com/3J7Xm1d.png
small flower
<@507999980624281600> what have you ended up running since the meme was bugged? ...
i'm saving a respec just in case, but i'll probably move each on to pure air, and dogger respectively
modern ginkgo
hell yeah https://i.imgur.com/3J7Xm1d.png
austere mirage
6m!
93 Crafting!
304 more gold to mine, turn into amulets and then see how much more i need to go
austere mirage
I did get amoxi pet though
Same!
warm smelt
Ugh. I gotta craft some recoils to fill up my ring of suffering
I'm the one suffering here
late helm
Yama seems like really slow kills still
old tapir
i don't get how the gm speed time is like 2:30 when even leagues power still gets 3 minute kills
austere mirage
Ugh. I gotta craft some recoils to fill up my ring of suffering
Same!
old tapir
but then water thorns isn't massive damage i suppose
past birch
which seems relatively fast
5 hours sounds hella slow tbh
fickle thistle
Lol. Got pet snake from zulrah before any of the other drops
My first kill I got the swamp jar
200 kc, no trident
inner zenith
anyone know what xp rates are for redwoods?
iron mesa
anyone know what xp rates are for redwoods?
something like 1.2m/hr?
austere mirage
https://gyazo.com/8d7d6320997c66e776e7ae128d81c457
Im waiting for rings to turn right, they take so long!
iron river
28 tobs and no scythe 
iron mesa
https://gyazo.com/8d7d6320997c66e776e7ae128d81c457
Im waiting for rings to turn...
if you do it manually its way faster 😄
iron mesa
nah,
transmute does, but gotta click for each alch still this league
velvet hornet
craws bow isnt boosted?
austere mirage
damn!
velvet hornet
the drop rate is legit liek 1/1500?
pure karma
are people unaware we can duo wildy bosses?
tame flax
does water surge heal more than ice barrage?
strange jacinth
are people unaware we can duo wildy bosses?
probably do enough damage to solo and dont want to risk seeing someone else getting a drop theyre hunting
tame flax
or they're just pricks
strange jacinth
someones mad they get killed for crashing or what
velvet hornet
are people unaware we can duo wildy bosses?
yes htye are for some reason
ive ha tons of opeoepl trippin while im trying to get some assist kcs
iron mesa
does water surge heal more than ice barrage?
The final water node always heals 60% of what you hit,
however the regeneration heal, heals based off runes used,
so water surge will heal more as it uses 10 water runes, while barrage only uses 6
velvet hornet
maybe slayer task relate dtho
modern ginkgo
41kc, 3 glacial temotli and no infernal, although I know I'm gauranteed it on the 60th kill
Watch me get it on 59 or something lmao
austere mirage
i got outside Echo Amo then realized i forgot my orb
modern ginkgo
i got outside Echo Amo then realized i forgot my orb
That's why I use the tear ammy to tele lol
pure karma
item protect
iron mesa
so its 1 /3k even worse
just wait til you get the slayer relic,
then you can easily always be on task for revs 😄
iron mesa
Is that as many prayers i can have on?
preserve & protect item too
velvet hornet
just wait til you get the slayer relic,
then you can easily always be on task f...
i am always on task got cull
modern ginkgo
Wooooo infernal temotli
velvet hornet
is that mke it better than 3k?
iron mesa
i am always on task got cull
then its just 1/586
iron mesa
is that mke it better than 3k?
austere mirage
Preserve wont help
velvet hornet
ahhh hten im like 5 times over drop rate or something lol
strange jacinth
think you do more by having the 3 melee prayers on than 1 magic prayer
forgot item protect too
velvet hornet
yet another fuck me grind
iron mesa
Preserve wont help
what, why not?
pure karma
austere mirage
we both died at the same time
pure karma
what did i come across
austere mirage
i may have got a little distracted by the 7 damage splats on her
kind cairn
is ouriana altar good for exp?
iron mesa
eh, its not bad, for a lot of players its the only option though 😄
tame flax
is ouriana altar good for exp?
its the best
if you have soul harvest its your best option
61k xp each click
austere mirage
Nothing good from her but it was funny seeing the hit splats
tame flax
iron mesa
better off making cosmic runes?
if you don't have kourend, ourania is probably still your best option
just have enough runes to bank at the guy inside the cave
instead of teleporting back n forth to there
strange jacinth
what, why not?
spreads misinfo, refuses to elaborate
scenic garden
i am always on task got cull
culling spree doesn't make you always on task, it gives you the effect of the slayer helm (i) while you are fighting monsters on task
austere mirage
Ohhhhhhhhh preserve! i was busy dying!
Ah boosted stats! my stats stay boosted as they keep being refreshed! i dont use pots on the boss as its not needed
strange jacinth
techtronically you always have a slayer helmet on
austere mirage
yeah but shes not my slayer task
scenic garden
techtronically you always have a slayer helmet on
*while fighting assigned monsters
tame flax
it makes it easier to be on task for stuff you want
iron mesa
Ah boosted stats! my stats stay boosted as they keep being refreshed! i dont use...
Oh, I thought you were asking for additional prayer for an air mage build, as that does more damage the more prayers you have active
austere mirage
im just down here killing the only echo boss i can
tame flax
and lets you stay on task for longer
strange jacinth
pretty sure it still gives you facemask effects at all times no?
iron mesa
yeah
strange jacinth
not just against task
iron mesa
you always have the effect of a worn slayer helmet,
just the slayer helmet itself only gives you extra damage on-task
scenic garden
warped turtle
Does anyone have a viable way to 99 construction without Abundance or butler? Is mahogany furniture the way
marsh haven
can you dismantle ballista and get parts back
tame flax
Does anyone have a viable way to 99 construction without Abundance or butler? Is...
mahogany
strange jacinth
okay youre correcting me for something im not saying lol
iron mesa
can you dismantle ballista and get parts back
no :(
velvet hornet
when i unlock minion, the equippable zammy items are they perminent? like i use them once and each time i resummon they are still there
austere mirage
Ohhhhhhh that is why i have too many schrools
merry wadi
when i unlock minion, the equippable zammy items are they perminent? like i use ...
yeah and they're permanently consumed
strange jacinth
based on the exact details the relic makes it so youre wearing a slayer helmet against any monster effect like banshee scream or spectre stink if you have any task at all but im pretty sure you just have those effects at all times
velvet hornet
yeah and they're permanently consumed
they need to be unique slot items too right? like head chest cape bottom chest
merry wadi
just no duplicates
waxen whale
So annoying how they decide what relics work in pvp and what don't
merry wadi
should just disable pvp
iron mesa
when i unlock minion, the equippable zammy items are they perminent? like i use ...
also just a tip if you've picked kandarin:
pick up a zammy robe top and bottom from near the ourania altar zammy wizards 😄
very commonly dropped
strange jacinth
i think it was working to cut nex poison effect in half too but i forget how many ticks it is without a mask
visual moss
is this where i can ask if anyone wants to do Bard assault leagues on W715? haha
scenic garden
based on the exact details the relic makes it so youre wearing a slayer helmet a...
if that were true I wouldn't have taken chip damage from cave horrors on my way to the mahogany tree on mos le harmless
velvet hornet
also just a tip if you've picked kandarin:
pick up a zammy robe top and bottom ...
already got those from chaos fanatic but ty 😄
i only got cape bot and top
still liek 1200 points from minion
strange jacinth
if that were true I wouldn't have taken chip damage from cave horrors on my way ...
slayer helm isnt a witchwood icon
velvet hornet
not sure what else to get
scenic garden
ah right, icon not mask
iron mesa
not sure what else to get
plenty of zammy items from clues
short cave
is there way to upgrade rune pouch without desert
strange jacinth
So annoying how they decide what relics work in pvp and what don't
yeah thats actually crazy that they even gave flask any effect at all against players, like what are they smoking
just make it deal 0 damage like the other ones
waxen whale
should just disable pvp
like why do i deserve to lose the world i spent 30 mintues hopping for to some random ass water throns mage who just gets to wreck me through prayer lol, meanwhile my bbc is compeltely useless
iron mesa
is there way to upgrade rune pouch without desert
I don't believe so
odd siren
What's the meta to get some basic mage equipment? I have Varlamore/Wildy unlocked
Like some armor would be dope
strange jacinth
dagonhai is pretty good
odd siren
What's the strat to get some?
strange jacinth
larrans keys so spam aoe supe tasks
odd siren
Oh. How do I pick up a task without access to edgeville?
old tapir
could the game PLEASE remember what spell my staff has set through deaths
i keep forgetting
odd siren
O
iron mesa
could the game PLEASE remember what spell my staff has set through deaths
lmao I wish
odd siren
I'm here but I don't se eher lol
strange jacinth
could the game PLEASE remember what spell my staff has set through deaths
dont equip your staff without the runes on you
old tapir
dont equip your staff without the runes on you
im not
strange jacinth
then probably no :/
kind cairn
can I do The Final Dawn if my RC is BOOSTED to the 52 requirement?
modern ginkgo
I just realised I'm a FOOL
modern ginkgo
I need to increase my rune regen % to benefit from the healing
odd siren
Oh also is there some way to get Ava's Accumulator w/o access to draynor?
iron mesa
Oh also is there some way to get Ava's Accumulator w/o access to draynor?
perdu
if in kandarin, he's in catherby,
if picked wildy, he's in ferox
strange jacinth
you would need mory for perdu to have ava
iron mesa
Ah, think you need a region that auto-completed one of ava's quests to get it,
not sure which those are,
I know kandarin and mory get you the accumulator, not sure if there's any others
scenic garden
maybe it does give the protections of the slayer helm cause I've been letting a banshee hit me for a couple mins and I haven't had my stats lowered
strange jacinth
hows that still a maybe 
scenic garden
and tried on aberrant spectres as well. gonna try a bit longer without my shield/suffering on.
dense forge
it would happen immediately even if they hit a 0
scenic garden
that's what I was thinking
low tangle
does anyone know how to access 3rd level in chasm of fire?
i went all the way down but the task doesnt complete
iron mesa
does anyone know how to access 3rd level in chasm of fire?
go down the rope/cage thing in the north east of 2nd level
or use the eye to tp to yama, then go up and down 😄
scenic garden
somehow I always forget how good aberrant spectres are for herb drops
going back there with minion should give me plenty
low tangle
go down the rope/cage thing in the north east of 2nd level
is that in the floor of yama area or yamas arena?
iron mesa
is that in the floor of yama area or yamas arena?
just the area the eye takes you to, where all the greater demons are, not where he's sitting
low tangle
just the area the eye takes you to, where all the greater demons are, not where ...
haha that worked thanks 😃
iron mesa
nice!
low tangle
had to do it a couple times
tawdry carbon
4 zenyte total right for elite task?
strange jacinth
nmz is enabled?
iron mesa
Is there any buffs to nmz points gaining in league?
you don't need to do nmz, you can buy nmz points with gp
fluid fable
Oh dope
iron mesa
1gp = 1 point
toxic vortex
4 zenyte total right for elite task?
Yes
strange jacinth
i thought nmz has been disabled for leagues forever
tawdry carbon
1 more to gooo
fluid fable
How many points is a scroll?
iron mesa
i thought nmz has been disabled for leagues forever
it is, but you can buy the points with coins to imbue items
toxic vortex
Have you also been picking up the crossbow parts?
iron mesa
How many points is a scroll?
from nmz, you don't get scrolls, you imbue the item directly, each item costs a different amount
fluid fable
from nmz, you don't get scrolls, you imbue the item directly, each item costs a ...
Icic
Ty
iron mesa
if you go to the nmz shop, it will tell you if you have the item on you
scenic garden
does nmz sell rune pouch
you can get rune pouches from the slayer reward shop
fluid fable
I dont have the item yet. Was gonna get the scroll ready so i can imbue immediatly
toxic vortex
Culling spree winning
obsidian bluffBOT
Wiki links found:
https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Ring_of_suffering
toxic vortex
I finally got a gargoyle task, got the echo orb on 31kc
fluid fable
Ooft 725k for imby
fluid fable
I got the coins so its worth, but bit rich
toxic vortex
I should have 99 herb after tomorrow I think
toxic vortex
The recoil charges should Regen I think
fluid fable
They dont from what i heard
toxic vortex
And also, you don't really use recoil everywhere
queen trail
does the 'restore 2% special energy when attacking from 2 tiles away' work with thorns?
dense forge
they don't regen recoils
toxic vortex
Maybe not. I was doing my zulrah kills like sub 30s, so a lot of the time snakelings weren't even spawning
dense forge
I wish they did lol
toxic vortex
I need to do more fight caves
But that one CA for not losing a prayer point is annoying
fluid fable
i can afk fight caves
If there was a 2 range melee one hander i prolly could as well
dense forge
just watched a video of someone doing basically all content with thorns water basically not clicking
iron mesa
does the 'restore 2% special energy when attacking from 2 tiles away' work with ...
I don't believe so
tawdry carbon
just watched a video of someone doing basically all content with thorns water ba...
yes thoirns mage is the best in the game
scenic garden
just watched a video of someone doing basically all content with thorns water ba...
Faux full-tanked Zuk lol. Water thorns is insane
fluid fable
Water mage should be main game
toxic vortex
Yeah there's a staff
fluid fable
to get from revs?
Accursed scepter
toxic vortex
That's it
velvet hornet
Accursed scepter
just kill dragons on task to get it liek tothers?
toxic vortex
I don't do revs so no clue
ionic cosmos
Anyone seen that the only slay boss with the cull relic that it assigns is Vordovis?
toxic vortex
What regions do you have unlocked
ionic cosmos
Vardovis*
fluid fable
Classic region
toxic vortex
And what master are you using
iron mesa
Anyone seen that the only slay boss with the cull relic that it assigns is Vordo...
will heavily depend on your regions,
in varlamore and kandarin, until you hit like 87 slayer, vard is the only only available
ionic cosmos
Isn't Jad one of the bosses it can assign?
And I have Kandy right now in addition to Var and Karamja
scenic garden
I think that's an option when you get a tzhaar task, not sure if it's assigned normally as a boss task
pure karma
wheres my little cloud at
queen fable
Isn't Jad one of the bosses it can assign?
It's labeled as "Tzhaar" and when you choose it, you then get asked if you want to fight Jad.
ionic cosmos
Oh so it's not one of the boss slots?
boreal basin
what is this bullshit prayer switching with echo cerberus. i don't understand the timing at all
queen fable
Oh so it's not one of the boss slots?
Correct.
toxic vortex
Also you need to unlock the ability to be assigned tzhaar creatures
pure karma
you swap when the one before it starts
ionic cosmos
Gotcha! Thank you.
toxic vortex
If you haven't already done that
But also if your slayer level is low then that would explain why all you are seeing is vard
The only boss tasks you can get in kandarin are kraken and thermy
Which require 87 and 93 slayer
ebon hemlock
any cm? on mage build
late helm
Is it possible to complete “just like that” with thorns?
pale moon
what is this bullshit prayer switching with echo cerberus. i don't understand th...
You have to be praying against each ghost before their animation starts
so once the animation for the previous one starts you switch to praying against the next one
and then you die to the lava wall that spawns at the same time
boreal basin
so stare at the ghosts because you need a split second reaction time and then die to the lava cuz you have to be paying attention to both things at once
got it
ebon hemlock
or is there a world for cm/cox?
gusty orchid
any1 for ba?
scenic garden
or is there a world for cm/cox?
there are a few worlds for the different raids
look at the world select for them
ebon hemlock
yeah just saw that didnt know ty
fast bridge
Just got a megarare after doing a TOA where i died every fight because diet was on
xD
thanks gagek
queen fable
Just got a megarare after doing a TOA where i died every fight because diet was ...
Sounds like how our main game trainees get theirs after 6+ deaths on a 150.
lone bloom
200 zulrah kc no blowpipe yet
runic cave
Im doing a bloodmage thorns build. What area should I go for last? I have wildy and mort.
tranquil pond
been trying to get echo boots for a bit, now the game is just messing with me
runic cave
quadflame doesnt work for ancients
pale moon
so stare at the ghosts because you need a split second reaction time and then di...
this is my experience
and even if you dodge the lava, now you can't hit cerberus because this is the 3rd attack and she's blocked off from melee now
regal sedge
Woo!
tawdry carbon
gzzz
zinc olive
proud of you
regal sedge
Minion about to go brrrrrrr
hard apex
I just got my megarare voucher, I am torn on what to redeem it for. Any suggestions?
zinc olive
scythe because scythe has aura
strange jacinth
realistically it doesnt matter cuz none of the megarares are top dps with the pacts
rancid hare
haha i have like 7 of those, light and heavy frame but no tail
smoky mica
how do i attach an image cus yesterday i looked at my time played on leagues and it was exactly 4 hours 20 mins
tawdry carbon
oh sweet
toxic vortex
And a 300? I think
tawdry carbon
still a chance
toxic vortex
Not sure on that
tawdry carbon
breh
toxic vortex
Uh
Melee, crush is preferred but with enough accuracy magic will probably work
With the amount of DPS you'll have you can ignore most of the mechanics.
Don't stand in the green shit
toxic vortex
That will be good enough
tawdry carbon
slash is kind of ok
rancid hare
I just used water thorns on arax, serp helm helped so I didnt have to tele to house and exit to cure venom
toxic vortex
Rax has an enrage phase. You did echo GGs right?
toxic vortex
Remember how you had to move the two tiles?
toxic vortex
Same sort of thing for the enrage ohase
tawdry carbon
away or to the side
toxic vortex
You'll see it
toxic vortex
Side
tawdry carbon
kk
rancid hare
if this is arax you can 1 step back cant you
tawdry carbon
like p3 verzik?
toxic vortex
Either or I guess
peak crypt
I take back what I said earlier lol. 80 zulrah kills in and gotten pet first thing, then 2 visages and nothing else lol
toxic vortex
I always do side step
tawdry carbon
I take back what I said earlier lol. 80 zulrah kills in and gotten pet first thi...
80kc pet is wild gz
toxic vortex
Same difference really
tawdry carbon
should i farm for a serp helm or send it with antivenom pots
toxic vortex
If you have a ton of them it's probably fine
tawdry carbon
i got 70
rancid hare
you can literally tank the venom and house tele/exit to cure if you have the boss amulet
tawdry carbon
antivenom+ is better rihgt
toxic vortex
Lasts longer
tawdry carbon
kk
cyan cove
1052 hero pick pockets and not a single scroll.....
toxic vortex
But you may be able to just rush the fight and teleport out to house to clear it
peak crypt
I got my rejuv pool going in my house finally, god I missed that thing
tawdry carbon
lol whoops
toxic vortex
But chally gets two hitsplats per spec
toxic vortex
if it triggers
tawdry carbon
it triggers often
hidden wave
Why am I not getting xp drops or bars when I'm smithing?
tawdry carbon
i tried chally vs blindbag in hardmode tob and blindbag and chally spec seemed only good on last tick of bloat lol
toxic vortex
I'm saying you can spare three specs
tawdry carbon
kk lemme give it a test
zinc goblet
Got infernal tecaptl drop but died at the same time so I couldn’t loot 45 kills later still no drop am I bugged or wtf
strange jacinth
is there a way to check my league points in f2p after the first login that tells me how many
toxic vortex
Might have to go the full 60 bro
tawdry carbon
Got infernal tecaptl drop but died at the same time so I couldn’t loot 45 kills ...
i think u just have to drop it naturally now
or go to pity
marsh haven
even with the leagues bonus the telekenetic grab room in mta is still the worst content in the game
zinc goblet
i think u just have to drop it naturally now
I died at 2 kills got 47 now
toxic vortex
And to think that room used to be even worse
hidden wave
Why am I not getting xp drops or bars when I'm smithing?
anyone?
toxic vortex
Idk man
marsh haven
And to think that room used to be even worse
apparently you couldnt move till ur telegrab animation was over
holy
toxic vortex
Yup
hidden wave
Ive just smelted 28 iron ore and got 8 bars?
toxic vortex
Among other things
queen fable
Ive just smelted 28 iron ore and got 8 bars?
Ah.........
tawdry carbon
ok ima try araxakon now
wish me luck
boss can only be killed on task, but i can kill the baby ones for sheos off task right
hidden wave
Ah.........
?
strange jacinth
checking my old accounts for points, this shit made me quit ironman
queen fable
?
When smelting iron ore, there is a 50% chance that it will be too impure; it disappears, yielding no Smithing experience nor an iron bar.
This is how it is in main game too btw.
toxic vortex
I need better boots still
rancid hare
ring of forging means 100% smelting rate for iron, the ring degrades per use though
cyan cobalt
Not having unlimited run is going to be the biggest pain in the butt when I go back to the main game
marsh haven
tbh i wouldnt even mind the telegrab room itself if it just gave more points
rancid hare
forgot to mention the red spiders explode at arax
rancid hare
just step a few squares away when they get closer
toxic vortex
The other two you can pretty much ignore
peak crypt
Cool.. Cool Jagex. Got pet and mutagen before I've even got the fang, which is the only thing I'm here for lol
peak crypt
I was like "eh I just need 1 pact point for a huge improvement, surely I'll get this fang really fast and move on" lol
toxic vortex
i thought boss would be more complex since it came out more recently
Most of the slayer bosses are meant to not be that complex
The only reason why things like the nox hally and the rancour are as expensive as they are us mostly because of the high slayer requirement, not because rax is actually hard
spring cipher
okay this is amazing
ive afked 5 fire capes so far
i can go do other stuff and come back in 30 min to a fire cape
cyan cobalt
I died trying to do it lmao
spring cipher
this is my setup
cyan cobalt
The dream setup right there
tawdry carbon
bro what are these drops
cyan cobalt
I was going all water but I respecc'd into thorns to accumulate points
spring cipher
its alright
strange jacinth
Well which is it
spring cipher
is it fun for maylay
nightmare is a melee boss main game
tawdry carbon
phosanoid is solo only no
spring cipher
The dream setup right there
its so dumb i havent failed once for the afk lol
cyan cobalt
My next goal is to kill echo KQ rn and hopefully just afk it but I aint there yet
toxic vortex
Same drop table