leagues-general

[pure karma]

is the GG staff much worse than harm?

ill go farm nightmare right now

[real thicket]

gg staff?

[real thicket]

oh

lithic scepter kinda garbage tbh

[misty sigil]

gg staff is crazy

[real thicket]

not for thorns/water stuff

[misty sigil]

nah but it's better than a trident

[rare hollow]

"ill go farm nightmare"

yeah right buddy

[real thicket]

seas or swamp?

[rare hollow]

lower max hit than toxic trident, but its got that special

attack for aoe damage so its useful in a bunch of situations

[misty sigil]

yeah plus spec always maxes

[real thicket]

the -8 damage for one handed powered staffs hurt a lot of them badly

trident of the swamp is good

[rare hollow]

not really

when you're doing 1t shenanigans

your dps just flies

[real thicket]

do u math

[rare hollow]

do i care?

[real thicket]

then stop giving advice

[rare hollow]

then stop larping

[real thicket]

if ur just going to be blatantly wrong

dude is asking for help

[pure karma]

what does this mean? do 5 mans have a higher drop chance than solo?

[rare hollow]

sorry i was correct before you even thought about it

ok moving on

[rare hollow]

yep

[torpid trench]

Whats the context?

[rare hollow]

its regular nm

[spring cipher]

reg nightmares is for teams

[spring cipher]

so drops are more common

[torpid trench]

Oh, then yeah, solos get gut punch rates

[rare hollow]

yeah

[pure karma]

thats dumb

[torpid trench]

Not really

[rare hollow]

pnm isnt too bad rates i feel in leagues

[spring cipher]

my last pnm kc was this LOL

[torpid trench]

Group content that encourages group play is always a big W

[real thicket]

it'll take a bit, but hopefully u get lucky

[rare hollow]

but nm/pnm have always had the most horrendous droprates so dont expect big things

[rare hollow]

how did u get a triple drop lol

[torpid trench]

And if you are desperate to solo and antisocial af (I dont judge because honestly same most of the time) theres always phosani's nightmare, which is harder, and solo only

[pure karma]

idk if i can do pnm in my gear

[winged sinew]

another zenyte at 36 kills

[pure karma]

got a feeling ill die very quickly

[torpid trench]

if you can nm, you can pnm

[spring cipher]

i did it with ahrims and shadowflame

[torpid trench]

pnm is a skill check, not a gear check

[rare hollow]

zactly

learnt it in leagues took me 2hrs to learn

but damn its a fight for real

[torpid trench]

The same minimum gear for both apply, but pnm will skillcheck you hard, whereas nm is a bit more forgiving

[torpid trench]

You will if you are inexperienced with the fight, yeah, but it has nothing to do with your gear. Some content is just hard, and requires practice and investment to learn. pnm is one such case

[pure karma]

i dont have the potions for the fly for hm

andi cant make them

[rare hollow]

make balm

you can

[torpid trench]

sounds like you are recoiling off every fly hit then

this is leagues my guy

overheal and tank it

[pure karma]

literally cant

zogres is required

[rare hollow]

that fly does 73 when unbalmed

you know im making balms for this boss right

[torpid trench]

Thats a nasty reflect if your shield effect procs

[rare hollow]

you think sanpews fall from the sky

i dont have kandarin btw

[torpid trench]

They do if you take wildy

[rare hollow]

no wildy

[pure karma]

wait its unlocked with mory?

neat

[rare hollow]

yeah

[pure karma]

i thought i had to farm nightmare for the pots

[rare hollow]

rogues purse + snakeweed

imagine pnm with not even balm

[pure karma]

i tried it earlier

[rare hollow]

and those nail beasts never show up dude

[pure karma]

i got pretty far

[rare hollow]

imagine pnm in just about no pacts lol thats what i did

only had 1t trident but pnm didnt even feel a scratch from those so i had to melee her

6min fight, how long is it usually in the main game?

[pure karma]

isnt it 15 or something

[torpid trench]

i think i did my best in like 10-12

idk

[pure karma]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AiWzJ2SohU

[rare hollow]

15 used to be when 4 phases i heard

[pure karma]

how did he make his ground white?

[rare hollow]

6:36 what

[torpid trench]

max pnm is wild

[rare hollow]

blindfold + skybox plugin

i use it for doom

[pure karma]

i have those, how do i set it up?

[rare hollow]

but dont need it for pnm, it just depends on how good your visibility is for certain bosses

err one sec

[covert wolf]

almost though this was bugged or something lol it never show up until now

[rare hollow]

turn on blindfold

[bronze sphinx]

Any danger of more pact resets coming,

Messed up my last reset unfortunately missed a key regen point, so leagues are over I guess

[real thicket]

they haven't said anything iirc

[spring cipher]

i think whatever they gave us as a bonus is it

[real thicket]

last news post sounded like they weren't going to do much more in the way of balancing/pacts

[rare hollow]

then after you turn on blindfold

turn on skybox

[pure karma]

im gaming

[rare hollow]

oh thats good

[spring cipher]

ur at nightmare?

[pure karma]

no

[winged sinew]

hide players, npc and yourself for more fps

[spring cipher]

oh

[torpid trench]

the ultimate blindfold challenge

[pure karma]

im still not sure why there are outlines everywhere

i turned that off a while ago but its still here

[real thicket]

whose the bartender that sells wines again?

[rare hollow]

time to afk for dark bow now

errr pub in varlamore

[pure karma]

the guy in the forest area

[torpid trench]

most of them, but i like using auburn vale because its close to a bird spot to go back to teomat

[real thicket]

tyty

[pure karma]

auburnvale or whatever

[rare hollow]

oh thats cool

[real thicket]

working on my 2nd acc and forgot all this shit already

[thorny terrace]

how do i do these tasks when i cant enter the abyss

[bronze sphinx]

Eveyrone has the fairy ring abyss buddy

[real thicket]

gotr?

[river marlin]

Question for you guys, my brother in law said there was something that let you skill faster and someone told me it was here?

[rare hollow]

there's a different one

[thorny terrace]

yeah but you cant enter the part where the npcs are

[rare hollow]

not the one from wildy

[bronze sphinx]

yes you can its not the wildy one its a diff one

[winged sinew]

AIP

[rare hollow]

there's another abyss zone for them

[thorny terrace]

where is the different one lol

[winged sinew]

abyss nexus

[rare hollow]

less crowded with mobs and a few abyssal demons

he just gave u the code

[rare hollow]

see thats the wildy abyss

[river marlin]

Is this still a thing? I just randomly had a dream about it.

[rare hollow]

if you read youll find out to get there you have to use a fairy ring

[winged sinew]

IT IS DIP

[thorny terrace]

im at fairy ring aip

[winged sinew]

dip

SORRY

[thorny terrace]

oh dip

[rare hollow]

dip is abyssal sire

[torn lynx]

Do ruby bolts do 200 damage with kings barrage, or is it split between the two for 50 each?

[thorny terrace]

bruh

[rare hollow]

give me second

ill sort u

before u give us all brain damage

[rare hollow]

alr is the code

now go forth and bring glory to my name

[thorny terrace]

thanks but also wtf is that attitude with the brain damage dude

ive never been to this place ever

[rare hollow]

not you

the other guy

[tame flax]

huge wave 4

[winged sinew]

attitude?

[rare hollow]

he keeps spamming dip but its the abyssal sire zone

not the special area

[thorny terrace]

oh gotcha

does that area exist in the main game btw

[torn lynx]

Aye gz and glgl on the grind, just finished my blessed quiver

[thorny terrace]

ive legit never seen or heard of it

[rare hollow]

tbf ive never had to be here

maybe so

wildy abyss is more convenient after all

[tame flax]

i dont think im getting a quiver until i swap to water thorns, i got to like wave 6 with some white ranger guy and just exploded

[thorny terrace]

learning about a whole new place wasnt on my leagues bingo card

much appreciated

[spring cipher]

ez 200 points

[thorny terrace]

gonna be singing ur glory

[torn lynx]

The shockwave mage dude yee, I did my 30 runs with water thorns

it's pretty much free

[rare hollow]

what was it? hail myreque

i forgor

oh well safalaan is vampyre im sure

[tranquil pond]

how are people getting to like 100+ depth on doom? the entire fight would be covered in the poison ground by that point, wouldn't it?

[rare hollow]

yeah um

[torn lynx]

You can celar the poison

[spring cipher]

they use the orb to clean it

[torn lynx]

clear*

[rare hollow]

people are just roided

[tranquil pond]

the orb?

[rare hollow]

earthen orb phase

[cloud panther]

I struggle to get to depth 10

[spring cipher]

the eartern orb yea

[tranquil pond]

oh, thats what those do?

[rare hollow]

it barely clears anything but yeah pros just use that

[spring cipher]

it keeps u safe when hes stomping and clears out the acid

[rare hollow]

it clear poison tiles for 1 row of tiles

[tacit oyster]

clear poison, tank venom or have eternal sustance with strange fruit

[rare hollow]

1x1 lol

[tranquil pond]

ah, that makes sense, i was just face taking everything

[tame flax]

i can barely get to delve 4

i dont understand like, anything on that boss

[rare hollow]

u should aim to push to 7 atleast

4 is nothing tbh

[torn lynx]

It's honestly really easy

[tame flax]

i just recently found out that you can kill the grubs under him to dmg the shield more

[rare hollow]

5 is when the car starts

[torn lynx]

The only issue is sustain

[rare hollow]

oh brand new learner? makes sense

[spring cipher]

world record is set by a guy
243 deep delve in the regular main game lol

[tranquil pond]

i've done so many kills, i've gotten 2 ayak, still no avernic or confliction

[tranquil pond]

jeez

[tacit oyster]

with kings barrage you could freely get to deep delves without even needing to care about the poison since you can face tank without doing melee punish

[rare hollow]

yeah his name is widega

remember him

[spring cipher]

Widega

[tame flax]

he does more damage than my kbd cbow heals

[spring cipher]

:D

[cloud panther]

I need to do CoX runs, man I like most things about Kourend but of the three raids I don't like CoX at all

[spring cipher]

okay i think this is a good spot to stop

[rare hollow]

can u share your setup

[rare hollow]

i want to get those 2 pacts from doom

[tranquil pond]

water thorns

[tacit oyster]

you gotta pray 66% of rock projectiles by keeping the rock color prayer on

[spring cipher]

big fan

[rare hollow]

for melee punish?

keep your maingame cox log away bruh

[cloud panther]

about half of my dislike of CoX comes from how much I hate the crab puzzle

[rare hollow]

dont u have the tile plugin for it?

[tacit oyster]

melee punish will hit you for 99 damage, if you are over healed to 160 it is not issue

[tame flax]

all of my dislike of cox comes from my first time trying to solo it last leagues

[cloud panther]

No I don't

[tame flax]

olm took me 45 minutes

[rare hollow]

true

[cloud panther]

I didnt even know there was a plugin for that

[rare hollow]

cox plugin

[covert wolf]

wonder how i do with my stupid water mage thorns on solo

[tranquil pond]

i've yet to get into raiding, but i gotta at some point, i'm still rolling around in ahrims

[spring cipher]

thats like the easy part

crabs is a 45 second solve

[rare hollow]

and i have cox additions plugin as well

no clue what it does but

i wont question it

[elder crater]

How does the 1% work with def bonus and thorns, will it round up or down?

[spring cipher]

i think for crabs it tells you which colour to bounce it with and vanguards tell you which is what style. theiving room tries to predict where the bats are

[cloud panther]

what plugin is this

[river marlin]

Is it worth coming back just to try this?

[crystal kelp]

Sure

[tranquil pond]

are league points usable for previous league rewards?

[river marlin]

I kinda just enjoy skilling and questing. And my brother in law said you skill faster? And I just had an irl dream randomly about this game

[torpid trench]

So a fight cave slayer task was a casual 1M xp

[crystal kelp]

Yes

[crystal kelp]

Can just bond up and try it for a couple weeks

[river marlin]

Bond up?

[pure karma]

for pnm, is there another staff i can use that isnt the gg staff? its 1t but it misses a lot and i cant kill the sleepwalkers in time.

[pure karma]

soon youll be dreaming about dying and losing your stuff

[dusty shard]

360 Zulrah KC and no fang or BP, is my account just bugged or am I severly unlucky?

[spring cipher]

indeed

[tranquil pond]

well, as the law of prabability states, "fuck you"

[bronze sphinx]

Happened to me to, 320 kc no tanz

[river marlin]

That was in there. Got stabbed in Lumbridge and someone stole my necklace.

[dusty shard]

This is why I could never play an IM

[bronze sphinx]

I really, really hope they throw 1-2 more resets at us

[dusty shard]

It feels illegal

[torpid trench]

Holy shit a barbarian sniffer

[river marlin]

Yo is that an owl on a staff?

[torpid trench]

Holy kit on a sang staff, ye

[river marlin]

I dont understand those words yet but sick

[tranquil pond]

oh fuck yeah, avernic treads finally

now i just need confliction and i can leave

[austere mirage]

damn that Echo Amoxilatl, Chill brooo

chill

[torpid trench]

Holy ornament kit is a rare drop from the hard mode version of the Theater of Blood raid, and can be used on various unique gear from the same raid, including the Sanguinesti Staff, pictured above

[elder crater]

the 1% stealing all our money

[austere mirage]

She wont chill!

[covert wolf]

boom

easy 360 pts

[pure karma]

oh no i have to catch 500

i thought 250 was the last one

[torpid trench]

Does a harpy lantern count as a light source?

[covert wolf]

now should i do more hunter rumour i wonder

actually wanna get that tecu

maybe i just go tecu alone for 99 hunter

[austere mirage]

Which is best?

[covert wolf]

50 wildy agility lap...

aight i'll send it

[thorny terrace]

oh come on

second leo in like a week of playing

still no outfit

hate these random event tasks

or has it been two weeks already, i dont even know

[rare hollow]

unblessed dizana's has the ava's effect right

[thorny terrace]

kinda depends on your whole build but generally its hard to go wrong with the second one

[tacit oyster]

yeah quiver in this leagues always has improved ava's recovery rate, without even using vorkath head on it

[austere mirage]

You little shit!

[tacit oyster]

just another thing to make fremmenik useless

[rare hollow]

awesome

was just thinking about farming a bunch of ddarts that i have

[outer hazel]

they regen so technically you dont need to catch them

if you have over 100% regen

[tranquil pond]

wow, mage thorns really does trivialize so much, even I was able to do the 6 jads challenge

[misty sigil]

how are you meant to do the rune dart task without tourist trap?

[austere mirage]

what area?

[outer hazel]

did u do the special challenge tho

[misty sigil]

KTM

[tranquil pond]

HA, no, i'm not trying that shit until i have justiciar or something

[misty sigil]

but the task for loading rune darts into a blowpipe

[rare hollow]

you need to kill red dragons

for rune darts

[tacit oyster]

implings also give rune darts

[rare hollow]

yes

[misty sigil]

thx

[rare hollow]

i keep forgetting

ninjas

[tacit oyster]

crystal implings specifically which is why it is task for tirannwn

[proper herald]

anyone up for yama?

duo is way faster

[covert wolf]

i feel lost on this clue
where do i even use the key?

[ancient wolf]

Xfinity sucks balls right now dude. I JUST got the Kraken pet + I was about to get the 150 kills for the Kraken without leaving the private instance and they shut off my Internet for "planned maintenance". Usually you inform customers before maintenance. 🤦🏽‍♂️

[covert wolf]

oh wait

[tacit oyster]

on a 2nd floor inside house south of there

[covert wolf]

nvm found it

[tacit oyster]

or east since that is pub

[outer hazel]

they never inform u for overnight maintenance

[craggy coral]

isn't 40 the max amount of pact you can earn?

[outer hazel]

yeah

[craggy coral]

why are there more than 40 pact tasks?>

[outer hazel]

bc people cried

[tacit oyster]

40 is max you can use yes, there are 44 pact point tasks after they added easier ones when people complained

[outer hazel]

needed easier task

[ancient wolf]

They never inform us of anything. It's annoying since they never do maintenance in my area. They're unfortunately the best ISP in my area, not even ATT can come close to their price + speed.

[outer hazel]

ya so they'll do their maintenance and you're gunna like it

[ancient wolf]

That's basically how they've acted. I don't wanna pay $60+ more a month for the same speed.

[outer hazel]

only other option is skynet

[ancient wolf]

Do you mean Star link? That's trash too compared to the fiber speeds I'm getting + they charge more than what I pay for fiber lol

[outer hazel]

wish verizon fios didnt fail

[craggy coral]

Anyone has the meta thorns water mage build?

[outer hazel]

internet would be way cheaper

[tranquil pond]

this is what i currently have, it's only 35/40

it also uses the kandarin echo staff rather than powered staves like some versions of the build do

i probably don't need the +15 defense level node, but i like the feeling of surety it gives me

you'd probably be better off saving points by going through that starting melee node instead

are shields classified as offhands?

[torpid trench]

No

Offhands are things like mage books, defenders, the kandarin echo offhand devil thingamiwutt

[tacit oyster]

at least eclectics are fast for medium clues since i need to get ranger boots

[tranquil pond]

you sure?

why would the first node not include shields

[torpid trench]

Imean they may have just thrown the existing logic to the wind, but shields have always been classified as armor, whereas offhands are classified as weapons, in every other case

[covert wolf]

oh here's another place to spend your gp

[fluid fable]

Monkis have redeemed themselfs from making me go dry by 1 @spring cipher

[torpid trench]

wouldnt surprise me that they skipped that for the league tho

[tacit oyster]

shields are off-hands, shield does not include all off-hands though

[tranquil pond]

gotcha, so anything that goes in the offhand slot is an offhand for the purposes of that damage pact?

[pure karma]

why doesnt the butler give me snapdragons?

[fluid fable]

He hates u

[tranquil pond]

because he actually hates us and it's a minor act of rebellion

[pure karma]

thats bad game design

[crystal kelp]

He gave them all to me

[tranquil pond]

is it really?

[fluid fable]

That a demon would hate you?

Seems reasonable

[tacit oyster]

yes anything that goes into the 2nd hand counts as off-hand. shields are just specific type of off-hand to limit which items can activate thorns

[torpid trench]

Especially since we sign a pact with Yama for his servitude, meaning he is absolutely a slave and not a hired helped Id hate my owner too

[tranquil pond]

gotcha, so that pact is definitely something i want to get when i can

[fluid fable]

Ye

[austere mirage]

huh

[fluid fable]

Butler is a polite term

That doesnt actually apply

[covert wolf]

lmfao i just quick skip without looking

[scenic garden]

got to zuk for the first time ever, then I got a 5 min nerd log warning so I was trying to clutch it out (even tho I was probly splashing too much to make it), and then he nukes me while I should have been behind the shiedl >_>

[covert wolf]

spooned

[austere mirage]

I stole a monkeys tail?

[fluid fable]

Ye

[torpid trench]

someone call peta

[tacit oyster]

rares item from demonic gorillas

[fluid fable]

U can also get it from hunter

[austere mirage]

i am Peta! its why im killing them

[fluid fable]

Checks out

[scenic garden]

Like this should have been behind the shield shouldn't it? (~1:48)

[bronze sphinx]

I really wish we'd get like 2more resets

I missed up my last switch, so my leagues over on that acc lol

[austere mirage]

Working hard apparently

if we had unlimited resets i would be trying out different builds

i would have gone back to fire mage,
tried out earth mage and thorns!
or removed thorns and add air on instead

maybe jump over to melee and see how that is

[crystal kelp]

You weren't behind the shield in time

[scenic garden]

I was following the shield tho?

I know there can be desync, but it was barely ahead of me

[crystal kelp]

Not really

Too busy marking wrong tiles instead of moving

[tacit oyster]

while the shield is moving it's true tile is moving 1 tile ahead of the visual shield

[scenic garden]

I marked those tiles on the previous rotation

this game is dumb

[crystal kelp]

At 1:44, you mark a tile

At 1:40 you mark a tile

You didn't "mark them on a previous rotation"

[austere mirage]

it exists!!

[tranquil pond]

just give me the confliction gauntlets man

[fluid fable]

🙂

[austere mirage]

https://klipy.com/gifs/i-will-find-you-threat--k01KQESRFWB73PXPKDPP0EY1RBH

[scenic garden]

thye really need to shorten fight cave and inferno

[austere mirage]

i just got prayer pen last night and got back to them today!

[scenic garden]

this is too much of a time waste

[crystal kelp]

They won't

[fluid fable]

Not for first kc imo

[crystal kelp]

They don't "need" to do anything

[rich spear]

Me stuck without making a zenyte until I can get my gauntlet seeds

[crystal kelp]

You just need to get better at the game

[austere mirage]

Gaunlet seed?

[rich spear]

Yes

My armor seeds

[fluid fable]

But i think a reward that makes it skip the single new spawn waves would be nice

[austere mirage]

ape toll i guess

[fluid fable]

Like, 2 bats on for example

[rich spear]

I've got so many points behind my player skill issue

[austere mirage]

idk where to go then

[rich spear]

It's actually crazy

[pure karma]

do i have to do the ghosts for echo cerb or is tehre a way to skip them?

[fluid fable]

Bros clogged it

[fluid fable]

U need some onyx

Cut onyx on the wall with the zenyte

[crystal kelp]

Nope, that would screw with the speed running community and Jagex have shown they like niche groups

[rich spear]

Does it need to be an uncut or cut onyx

[crystal kelp]

Cut

[austere mirage]

Yeah i got the cut onyx, its more i've not done ape toll

[fluid fable]

I mean it doesnt have to. Just make it optional, and clear thay u had it on

[tranquil pond]

i just wanted ONE zenyte for my suffering

[rich spear]

I've never made zenytes before

You'll need 4 for the big task

[fluid fable]

Perfect

I just wanted four for the task

[rich spear]

I'm still missing 3 zenytes a light frame two limbs and two tails

[fluid fable]

Idk the frames are for

[misty sigil]

ballista tasks

[fluid fable]

I sure hope its nothing good

Coz iv been alching them

[rich spear]

Gotta make both ballistas

Dear god

[amber sleet]

need ballistas for task

[fluid fable]

Oops

[tranquil pond]

maybe i'll go back to finish that at some point, it's a lot a points

[rich spear]

Heavy frame is kind of a hard drop

[misty sigil]

they are easy 400 points

[fluid fable]

Oopsies

[amber sleet]

its k u already got giga spooned surely u will get spooned them back more

[fluid fable]

So i had the task completed and just

[amber sleet]

[urban wigeon]

Almost 80 crafting then I can start messing sound with crystal stuff to 99

[fluid fable]

Deleted it

Pretty cool. Glad im big brain like that

[fluid fable]

I still got 39 kills left on task

It can be done!!

[misty sigil]

think i got my second monkey tail for both ballista at kill 485

[fluid fable]

U need the tails for ballista as well?

[tranquil pond]

this is getting a little out of hand

[misty sigil]

yeah, limbs, frame and tails

[fluid fable]

True

If i dont get all 6 pieces in 39 kills ima call the game dumb and throw a tantrum

Seem reasonable?

[fluid fable]

Tf am i even looking at

[tranquil pond]

goop floor

[misty sigil]

idk, log says you got the drop 😉

[fluid fable]

Whos been cheesing the floors up

[[Ballista]]

[obsidian bluff]

Wiki links found:
https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Ballista

[tranquil pond]

he's just refusing to give me what i want, and somehow i keep not dying

[bronze sphinx]

Just 1 more batch of reset, please jagex 😄

[bold scaffold]

does masori come fortified?

[tranquil pond]

not from what i've heard, no

[misty sigil]

oh shit zulrah task is only 150 kills?

[pure karma]

how rare are araxyte tasks?

[outer hazel]

no

[pure karma]

i kinda want to cancel mine so i can do something else

[misty sigil]

storage?

[tranquil pond]

do you have culling spree?

[pure karma]

no

[tranquil pond]

doom's rewards stop scaling after depth 8, right?

so there's no need for me to keep going deeper

i barely have anywhere left to walk at 28

[stuck narwhal]

How doable is doom with water mage thorns?

[iron mesa]

very easy

[stuck narwhal]

I can ignore most of the mechanics then?

[iron mesa]

yeah

[tranquil pond]

a better question is, what content is hard with water mage thorns

[tranquil pond]

up to a point

i find the charge attack that does 99 can sometimes catch me if i fucked up some prays from the boulders

but that only starts happening in later depths

[stuck narwhal]

Colo still wrecks me, but yeah still new to thay content

[iron mesa]

if you stay melee distance he doesn't do boulders

[tranquil pond]

i keep getting to wave 12 colo and then croaking

[stuck narwhal]

Ooh dang so thats an easy 1-8 completion

[tranquil pond]

once i get my confliction gauntlets i plan to try colo again

[austere mirage]

im a monkey!

[austere mirage]

Thats a lot of glue

[vapid silo]

stay right in front of him so he melees you for nice reflect dmg

[tranquil pond]

it'll probably only start getting sketchy at around depth 6, and by that i mean you just need to do basic prayer swapping

[stuck narwhal]

Wow no way its that easy

[tranquil pond]

honestly, i had no clue that was even a thing, i've just been praying against the boulders

it might be even easier to do 1-8 then if you just let him melee you

[vapid silo]

ye just gotta swap a side if he spits acid on you

[stuck narwhal]

Im at like 31/40 pacts at the moment, the rest is just endgame pacts so ill think ill be able to go to doom in a sec

[iron mesa]

also: dragon cup achieved 😄
top 1500, will happily take that

[stuck narwhal]

But im still only rocking mystic outfit as armour

[vapid silo]

gg, gonna keep playing? or done?

[tranquil pond]

honestly doesn't matter too much outside of better armour making your thorns do more

all his attacks have enough accuracy he won't really care about defense

[stuck narwhal]

Eh true

[tranquil pond]

since i think the point of him is you can take 0 damage if played properly

[iron mesa]

will keep playing for a while still I think 🙂
plenty of raids loot still to be had,
and some easy enough points with afk-ish grinds

[stuck narwhal]

At this point with water mage thorns, you'll outheal enemies and let them damage themselves to death right

[tranquil pond]

yeah, unless they have a mechanic that is designed to 1 hit

or they have something to stack damage

like, when he puts his shield up and i can't damage him, i just focus the grubs

and then face tank the 99

[iron mesa]

even yama's meatball doesn't 1-hit anymore if you have 188hp 😄

[stuck narwhal]

Yeah e.g cerb with ghosts and lava pools

[tranquil pond]

i've done yama all of once, i saw that shit landing and PANICKED
and then i was totally fine

[stuck narwhal]

When i plan on afking cerb that is

[granite timber]

tfw

mory gets both books

but no free training from ellen in kanderin

[stuck narwhal]

Kourend has an npc that gives 2 lamps i think

Commander fullore in the castle

[tranquil pond]

i love doom's car mode

so much free damage

[weary shadow]

Lol just did the same

[zinc olive]

doom car is so funny man

bro really said vroom vroom mf

[tranquil pond]

imma be real, 34 depth is so much more stressful than 1-8

i can't tell if this is worth it even

i just want the gloves

[zinc olive]

I've just been doing 1-9 bc i don't hate myself

[tranquil pond]

eh, it's been kinda fun

[pure karma]

when am i guaranteed the cerb weapon?

[tranquil pond]

now that i finally realized the trick with the boulder colours

[zinc olive]

i think it's 60 kc

[[asgarnia orb]]

scuffed

[granite timber]

echo cerb should be in the main game

just trust

[zinc olive]

it's 50 kc mb

[pure karma]

its a long ways to go

[granite timber]

i got pitied on echo

[tranquil pond]

i think this is where i call this deep delve, the floor is basically completely covered now

[weary shadow]

Aye nice

[tranquil pond]

i can't even tell what the rates are via the wiki

since it's variable based on depths

[zinc olive]

70 deep no gloves is pain

[pure karma]

i can perfect cerb now at least

i think

[tranquil pond]

i got 2 ayak before i even got the treads

at least i got the pact point

[zinc olive]

it's like 1/25 at worst for 1-8 i believe

[tranquil pond]

but i NEED the gauntlets

[iron mesa]

1-8 is 1/10, then 1/36 for each deep floor

for any item

[buoyant elk]

Is leprechaun bank task bugged

[tranquil pond]

wow, letting him melee you is WAY better than doing it normally

[pure karma]

gg

[tacit oyster]

have to talk and ask it to bank woodcutting supplies

[iron mesa]

nah, gotta go through the dialogue rather than use items on him

[tranquil pond]

sick, so me getting literally nothing from that 35 depth run

was unlucky

[buoyant elk]

Oh 😭 that's dumb

[pure karma]

how do i make a soulreaper axe with only vard and whisperer?

[zinc olive]

they drop all pieces

[tranquil pond]

they can all drop any piece

[pure karma]

oh

[zinc olive]

p sure whisper has better rates

[pure karma]

guess im living at whisperer until ring

[scenic garden]

this seems to be impossible without Fremennik, Asgarnia, or Kourend for a 2nd spirit tree patch

[pure karma]

shes also slow

[pure karma]

house

think it counts

[scenic garden]

ah

[zinc olive]

yea i like levi way more

[weary shadow]

Brimstone to your house?

[zinc olive]

whisperer is just annoying

[tacit oyster]

brimhaven has one

[scenic garden]

2nd spirit tree patch
I know

[crystal kelp]

House and Brimhaven

[zinc olive]

brimhaven and house

[scenic garden]

I get it

[tranquil pond]

thank you so much for mentioning this, it's SO much faster

[weary shadow]

It feels like a lot les damage as well

[tranquil pond]

wasn't sure if i was jsut imagining that

[pure karma]

how do i do tihs?

it only holds 250

[scenic garden]

combine them

[granite timber]

@pure karma u need 3 additional pools

[pure karma]

oh

[scenic garden]

you need 4-5 more to combine them to hold 1k, and one more lets it hold 100k

[pure karma]

great lmao

[zinc olive]

help those ents, they're chill guys

[weary shadow]

I'm sure it's 0 when you do mechanics, but I still don't get the blue shield one, I hit him with the demon blades and it just reset the shield for a long time so I just started easting the damage

[granite timber]

burn the ents

[weary shadow]

Asking fight caves is crazy now

[zinc olive]

you gotta hit him then kill the grubs within 1 tile of him

[scenic garden]

tasks that can only be done once every 6 hours or 250 million years seem like good ideas

[zinc olive]

they damage the shield if they pop on him

[shadow burrow]

If I unlocked kandarin do I immediately have access to myth guild?

[weary shadow]

Ahhh

that's what that's about

[granite timber]

yes

dragon slayer 2 is autocompletee

[zinc olive]

i agree that just tanking the charge is way faster tho

i only do shield if he does it b2b

[shadow burrow]

Try and you

Thank you*

[weary shadow]

I mean I'd love to learn how to do it properly for my main, this has been a really eye opener into the PVM stuff, it's a bug that def gets scratched

[gray swan]

Anyone know If I can make a working heal mage build in Asgarnia, Mory, Desert?

[zinc olive]

yea it's been a nice learning experience, ill just have to break the habit of excessively facetanking stuff for main

[tranquil pond]

i really worried about that too honestly

[zinc olive]

water mage is decent just off desert w 3 tick spellbook and ice=water

[weary shadow]

The Kan echo weapon is night and day for the build, but it is possible, just less effective.

[zinc olive]

think standard w surge is better tho

[ruby socket]

are Earthbound tecpatl worth getting for blindbag build? I'm asking bc i gotta do final dawn for it and id rather piss out a cactus than do quests period let alone in fucking leagues

[gray swan]

Ty I'll try it

[zinc olive]

i mean tbh either way you want final dawn for doom soo

and final dawn is fun, as a quest hater

[gray swan]

What gear should I go for do u know? @zinc olive

[ruby socket]

I take you word for it, if it won'T be fun i'll reply back

[gray swan]

For thorns/mage

[tranquil pond]

the best quests are those that focus heavily on combat

or boxed puzzles

[zinc olive]

yes

[tranquil pond]

i dislike the ones where it's like "here, bring this one arbitrary item to this person"

[ruby socket]

One small fucking favour.

[weary shadow]

I'd love them to give us 1 more zone just so I can try out more new stuff...

[ruby socket]

literally the worst quest ever designed and the person who made this should be unemployed for life

[tranquil pond]

tai bwo wannai

[ruby socket]

this too

[weary shadow]

Yes that one..

[zinc olive]

id do smth like barrows, dfs, dhw/sotd(if you can be bothered to 3t manual cast lmao)

[tranquil pond]

i use ahrims, but tank barrows might be more optimal

[zinc olive]

wait not dfs actually that sounds painful w ut areas

[ruby socket]

I was gonna say "honestly they could do that for the last 7 days or something" but then ealized it would devalue the points threshhold for dragon so not gonn ahappen sadly

[weary shadow]

Asgarnia - Bandos is pretty easy to afk in an private on your mobile client and get that 3 piece

[tranquil pond]

metal dragons die pretty quickly to magic

iron dragons that is

[zinc olive]

its still a 1/2k tho

[scenic garden]

this drop locking for ironmen is so stupid, especially on a mob that only spawns once ever 6 hours

[gray swan]

I mean u can just afk them once u have decent build

[tranquil pond]

i just did a slayer grind for them

[weary shadow]

Could give us 7 days after the deadline

Oh I will say, the 3 choices would be a great addition to slayer even as a reward.

[gray swan]

Ty ty

[granite timber]

kill 5 spinners

surely will be easy

[zinc olive]

gotta be quick

if there's anyone else everything in pc melts comically fast

[misty sigil]

is this the rabbit?

[scenic garden]

yes

[tranquil pond]

i really wish i could test out my build on the bosses i normally farm on my main, but they're not in my regions

[weary shadow]

I was in rune and some Moons gear when I did it with a Mystic water staff

[zinc olive]

didn't they just buff the respawn?

[tacit oyster]

respawn buff next week/in future

[scenic garden]

what did they buff it to?

[weary shadow]

Oh wow already at jad (19 minutes afking)

[zinc olive]

ahh

[weary shadow]

Any tips for Inferno?

[tranquil pond]

dfs is also super worth the grind, it's BiS, though arguably elysian would be better in some scenarios

[scenic garden]

well you'll still need to have been the first to hit the rabbit even if they do buff the respawn rate

[zinc olive]

don't let your health hit 0

[scenic garden]

so that only solves one problem

[zinc olive]

dfs is also extremely positive aura

[tranquil pond]

i got my dfs a bit early at a total of about 1.4k

[tacit oyster]

use flask at 0 hp before your death to revive

[tranquil pond]

just kept farming black or iron dragons on task

[scenic garden]

is the drop rate improved on task?

[zinc olive]

im lucky, i got wildy so when i go for it i got that higher rate

[tranquil pond]

wait, it can heal even after you've hit 0?

[zinc olive]

prolly gonna swap to thorns/water for a bit cuz im too scrub to do inferno/colo legit

but ive heard water thorns makes em free

[tacit oyster]

you have 1 tick to clear the death queue after your hp hits 0 before game registers you dead

[tranquil pond]

water thorns makes everything free

[scenic garden]

getting herblore up for these antivenoms and antifires is gonna be tough

[zinc olive]

that's the hope lol

[tranquil pond]

wasn't aware the flask could clear death queue, i've only heard of the phoenix necklace doing that

[austere mirage]

how do i get up crafting? im level 84 need to get to 89

[tranquil pond]

it's funny, i was gonna go water thorns from the start

and yet it became meta

[zinc olive]

i saw kbd cbow and knew i wanted to build with it immediately

[misty sigil]

How do you get the rabbit to spawn?

[fluid fable]

I never even looked at the mage tree tbh

[uneven stag]

I did it in tirannwn, bought some crystal bows/shields and reverted/recreated them

[fluid fable]

I saw bow, echoes. And went that looks fun to do zuk with

[tranquil pond]

i briefly considered hally build just because i love the noxious halberd and want to eventually get it on my main

[fluid fable]

And thats remained my sole focus

Everything else is just to get me there

[uneven stag]

something something zuk around and find out

[zinc olive]

assuming no bell, you can buy uncut diamonds for tokkul and cut them

[fluid fable]

Aw man

[zinc olive]

or mass produce black dhide whatever although that sounds more tedious

[fluid fable]

Dont do that to him

[austere mirage]

would i make profit?

[fluid fable]

Lmao

No

Ud lose everything in 5 minutes

[zinc olive]

not the Ironman concerned w profit

[tacit oyster]

if you want profit you can always cut rubies in aldarin gem shop

[weary shadow]

Do these pillars in Inferno do something if they die?

[fluid fable]

If it helps i have 10k diamonds sitting in my pocket rn

[zinc olive]

nah you just cant safespot w em

[fluid fable]

I gotta start cutting em now i got my zenytes

[austere mirage]

yeah that is slooooooooooow

[weary shadow]

Ahh

Cool then they can die lol

[zinc olive]

well i mean they do like 10 damage if you're adjacent while they fall

but that's it

[gray swan]

Are u able to post pact builds in here through link?

[weary shadow]

Yes, but may depend on ranks

[gray swan]

https://tools.runescape.wiki/demonic-pacts/?n=1-10-100-101-11-112-113-114-122-123-135-136-139-140-141-145-44-46-55-56-57-58-59-60-61-67-68-69-7-70-71-8-81-84-87-93-94-96-97-99

Should I change anything from this?

[weary shadow]

Maybe 3 tick powered staffs for some fights

[faint lodge]

has there been any discussion about removing the limit on pact resets?

[scenic garden]

only amongst players who've already ran theirs out as far as I've heard

[misty sigil]

Not really officially

I think 5 is generous

[fluid fable]

5s alot

[gray swan]

Should I sacrifice 1% magic damage for full 100% p pene?

[tranquil pond]

i heard an idea that every pact point after 40 would instead become a reset

and i think that'd be fair

[fluid fable]

2 would be what id give

[misty sigil]

i did for cg and gorillas

[faint lodge]

idk with how many paths there are i think it would make snese not to limit them maybe a heavy sum of gp to reset so u cant change for every activity but not a limit

[gray swan]

I can't do gorillas

[weary shadow]

Can't say depends on your boss fights

[misty sigil]

gp is meaningless in this game mode though

[zinc olive]

id make it infinite but every time you reset it removes all the ones youve got so far and removes the tasks you already did

[gray swan]

I think only pene I need for is Doom and ToA maybe ToB?

[tacit oyster]

gp has uses even for ironman

[misty sigil]

not in leagues though, you make it so effortlessly

[faint lodge]

right but u dont have unlimiteed gp

[tranquil pond]

i find 25% pen is plenty for doom

[faint lodge]

u have to get it somehow

[tacit oyster]

gp has even more uses in leagues since you can do construction faster

[winged sinew]

just sold like 32k death runes

[thorny terrace]

never done doom in main game before.. is he supposed to get stuck in an infinite cycle of charging his attack, you bop him with a demonbane, he keeps charging, you bop him with a demonbane, he keeps charging, you bop him a demonbane....

just doesnt end until i let him fire it which deals like 80+ damage

[zinc olive]

yes the shield charge has 500 hp

[tacit oyster]

you can kill grubs near him to explode for 100 damage

[thorny terrace]

i see

[tranquil pond]

bopping him is more to reset the timer than break the shield

[thorny terrace]

so bop to reset then kill grubs by him

[tacit oyster]

in leagues with sustain i just let him charge and tank the 99 for faster kills

[zinc olive]

can you overheal?

[tranquil pond]

same

[wide pollen]

Am I doing something wrong? Like missing a quest or something? The trident will not drop. I'm 250 kc dry atm.

[thorny terrace]

yeah

maybe ill let him fire lol

[zinc olive]

just tank it like they're saying

dont let him eat grubs

[torpid trench]

This fight cave should get me to slayer 87 for the kandarin pact points

[tranquil pond]

you just don't want it hard enough

[zinc olive]

probably skill issue

[weary shadow]

If you can kill the Kraken it'll drop... it just sucks sometimes

I was about the same

[wide pollen]

i meant the swamp trident. or fang .

[tacit oyster]

Need to talk to Oziach to get drops, he is locked in misthalin

[zinc olive]

eww elf land

[torpid trench]

Have you died to zulrah yet? Not usually a problem on the main game, but there is a whole miniquest type thing about the altar and sacrifice and stuff

[tranquil pond]

hey, can someone post their doom clog with the gauntlets obtained? i want someone to hate rn

[vapid silo]

got 2 gauntlets and nothing else

[tranquil pond]

eh, you get a pass because avernic treads are a pact point

[zinc olive]

Doom of Mokhaiotl
Deep Delves: -1
Confliction Gauntlets obtained: 99999999
Eye of Ayak obtained: 1
Treads of Avernice obtained: 67

seethe

[tranquil pond]

ty, fuck you

[vapid silo]

maxed on pact points so thankfully doesn't affect me

[misty sigil]

echo thermy is a joke it's so easy

[torpid mist]

is this good enough for bosses? :p

[tranquil pond]

i really didn't like echo thermy

i eventually just started brute forcing it

echo thermy, easily my least favourite echo boss

[weary shadow]

I think it could have been a lot more fun

[misty sigil]

echo gg's i didn't like

i kept dying to random freezes

[tranquil pond]

echo amox was honestly so much fun when i wasn't lagging

i kinda want to try it again now that i have like 3x the pact points and way better gear

[zinc olive]

echo amox is peak fr

took me a minute to learn but it's very fun

[zinc olive]

it's comical with big fast wep

[vapid silo]

sadly I was too strong to acknowledge echo amox mechanics by the time I did it

[zinc olive]

my first few runs i was doing that shit w obby maul

[loud beacon]

is the ToA shadow good for mage build? is it actually 1 tick?

[tranquil pond]

damn, that sucks, i was in addy with regen braclets, a fury, and glacial temotli

[weary shadow]

0:16 I didn't even realise why it had died

[scenic garden]

I died to echo amox a few times then waited til I could cheese it with water thorns

[zinc olive]

i died a lot to it at first but i was pretty underpowered for it when i started

i did 10 kc for 20 deaths and was like, maybe i should come back later

[tranquil pond]

i got it on my 3rd or 4th try iirc

i've really enjoyed using leagues to try out bosses i've never done before

practicing vard has actually be really satisfying

stepping over the scythes is quite the blood rush

[torpid mist]

i mean for echo bosses

[weary shadow]

I just have even more respect for Hardcore Ironmen who have beaten awakened* bosses they are nuts

[zinc olive]

what's the question now? are you asking if the capstone is good or what

[crystal kelp]

Yeah it's really annoying how she throws out those orbs but you should be able to dodge them 100% if paying attention

[tranquil pond]

i've failed to do it with these op league buffs

mind you, my last attempt ended with him at like 47 hp

[torpid mist]

basically if i wont screw myself over going this path

[crystal kelp]

I liked echo thermy except the magic attack was too blended in to the environment made it harder to see for no reason

[torpid mist]

mage/water

[zinc olive]

definitely not, water mage is extremely beginner friendly and strong

just make sure you either have kandarin/transmute for wrath runes or desert for ancients

[tranquil pond]

water mage is probably the MOST beginner friendly build

by a significant amount

[zinc olive]

or wildy for kbd cbow

[tranquil pond]

kandarin gives wrath runes if you just do runecrafting

i wanted butler

[tacit oyster]

the main issue with water mage is that without thorns you deal 0 damage to most bosses early game since most things have high magic defence

[tranquil pond]

that reminds me, i haven't checked on my butler in a few days

[zinc olive]

i meant kandarin or transmute yea

[tranquil pond]

i hope i had him set to planks

[zinc olive]

pure dopamine incoming

[tranquil pond]

i should check after this doom run

it's funny, doom 1-8 takes about as long as my main takes for muspah

re-adjusting to the powerlevel of regular fights is gonna be weird

i've not even done fight caves on my main yet

because i didn't want to spend an hour getting to jad just to choke

[zinc olive]

you'll only choke if nerves get you

jad is easy, shaking hands are hard

[tranquil pond]

well now i've done the 6 jad challenge on the league, so

hopefully that prepares me a bit

oh, he was on smithing

guess i have 99 smithing now

skipped like 4 levels

[zinc olive]

honestly not a bad one to forget him on

smithing is pretty slow from him

[tranquil pond]

smithing in general is pretty slow for me, i have endless harvest and hotfoot

[zinc olive]

i have the bad feeling ive left mine on flax

[tranquil pond]

but the best thing to mine is iron

[tranquil pond]

for your sake, i hope it was herblore or something

[zinc olive]

i want mine on smithing too lol

i got forager so don't need the herblore that bad

[tranquil pond]

ha

ah, gotcha

[zinc olive]

thinking about it deep i think he's on cooking actually

because i am VERY lazy

[tranquil pond]

oh no

oh wait

[zinc olive]

with skilling

[tranquil pond]

cooking is super SUPER easy with hotfoot

but i guess without

it actually takes time

[zinc olive]

just a bit

[tranquil pond]

i got 99 cooking by accident with hotfoot

[zinc olive]

but i just cba

if i dont have to skill i won't yk

[weary shadow]

Dam got to Zuk, but the Jad hit me at the wrong time with range 🙁

[zinc olive]

unlucky, went the same way for me

[tranquil pond]

how long until i get these gauntlets, i wanna get back to farming colo for echo boots

wow that's a fast one

[zinc olive]

think I'm at 11

kbd cb is just too good

[tranquil pond]

crossbows really do seem to be getting carried by that thing

[zinc olive]

they are

[tranquil pond]

mind you, double accuracy roll and guaranteed maxhit seems crazy good

[zinc olive]

very hard

i see people using zcb and buckler and it's not as good

[winged sinew]

🙂

[zinc olive]

proud of you

[tranquil pond]

i wish the ring of suffering could regen charges too

i don't wanna have to craft rings

[tranquil pond]

doing colo for more echo boot charges sounds annoying too

[winged sinew]

time to kill zulrah 100 more times so i get the 300 kc task

[tranquil pond]

how long does a pair of echo boots even last anyways

[weary shadow]

6000 hits

[tranquil pond]

6000 hits
not 6000 damage?

they'll last a REALLY long time then

i find myself chewing through suffering charges

[weary shadow]

What is that as a drop lol?

[scenic garden]

[thorny terrace]

is shadowflame messing up volatile earth at doom or am i doing something wrong?
seems like i only get to attack one, and the orb that spawns fizzles immediately lol

[winged sinew]

https://tenor.com/view/skill-issue-pikachu-pikachu-skill-issue-gif-3559280283046901335

[thorny terrace]

not that it matters massively cause overheal etc but im trying to use this opportunity to learn the mechanics a bit

[winged sinew]

always bring a few extra

[tranquil pond]

oh, is it supposed to do something else?

[scenic garden]

it just feels a bit rude for it to wait til the last one to burn lol

[torpid trench]

You tag two shards, and the ball travels between them protecting you

[thorny terrace]

seems like you attack two and the orb will travel between the two you attacked and protect you from the ground slam attack

[tranquil pond]

huh

[thorny terrace]

but it just doesnt work for me, i suspect because of shadowflame hitting twice and the game thinks i hit two of the same pillars, so it "travels" between itself and itself and despawns right away

[torpid trench]

Quite possible actually

and kinda funny

[scenic garden]

oh is that what it's supposed to do. cause I was tagging two shards and the ball seemed to travel from the last one I hit to my current position

[torpid trench]

sounds like youre weapon switching

[scenic garden]

and I wasn't switching my weapons

[torpid trench]

Not sure exactly how it orders them, but yes, its how it works. might be that it starts at the 2nd one and travels back to the first, but ik you tag 2 and walk with the ball

[winged sinew]

tag teh shards far away from each other to select where the protection spawns and where it goes and ends

[scenic garden]

well I wasn't standing beside the first one I tagged

I was standing next to doom when I hit both

[shrewd ermine]

Is it worth using the crystal set as a magic user, if I don't have the blessing? Currently using lunar gear which isn't great. I could maybe get the varlamore armour as a stepping stone

[scenic garden]

and just hit the two closest

[winged sinew]

if you tag 2 close to each other then it won't travel far

hit ones that are far away from each thing, not you

[scenic garden]

no, it does nothing for magic or melee or non-bowfa users without blessing

[merry sphinx]

rune axe is 1/32 drop from tree spirits

[shadow burrow]

Any big or easy task to do in kandarin that anyone got off top of their head

[shrewd ermine]

I guess I should just get the moon set then

[winged sinew]

the shards you attack needs to be far away from the first shard

[fresh rock]

i dont have forager and i only have 3 herb patches

is it better to do mixology to 99 or hunt for herbs to 99?

[shrewd ermine]

until I do get it

since I dont think I can get any better armour (K/T)

[torpid trench]

If you have T, you have gauntlet

Time for red prison

[merry sphinx]

finally got the rune axe

[torpid trench]

I went like 800 dry on it, the missus got it first kill. I was so mad

[winged sinew]

for a rune axe?

[merry sphinx]

yeah

[winged sinew]

where did you get yours?

[merry sphinx]

tree spirits

[torpid trench]

We both got em at the tree spirits in the fairy ring place

Enchanted Valley or whatever its called

[merry sphinx]

I didnt know u could get it from there

[winged sinew]

and you got yours after 800?

[merry sphinx]

my 1st account I just bought it from the wc guild

[torpid trench]

yeah. i was 99 woodcutting before i got it

Kept going back just out of spite

[shrewd ermine]

I do

Only problem is even if I get the crystal armour, I need the crystal blessing from the echo but I dont think I can clear the echo gauntlet with just lunar gear

[torpid trench]

because i was so insanely mad

[merry sphinx]

u dont take gear into gauntlet

[shrewd ermine]

for echo gauntlet I thought you did no?

[merry sphinx]

its just you and the gauntlet

nah

[shrewd ermine]

ohhhhhhhhhhhhh

[merry sphinx]

u get t3 armour

[shrewd ermine]

OH

[winged sinew]

echo hunlif is so easy

[shrewd ermine]

okay i didnt know that

[torpid trench]

Isnt echo "gaunt" just straight into hunleff?

[winged sinew]

way easier than just regular corrupted

yea

[shrewd ermine]

i see

[winged sinew]

which makes it easier

[merry sphinx]

it probably is easier yeah

[winged sinew]

np wasting time

no*

[torpid trench]

Is the fight actually easier, or is it just faster? Those are not the same

[merry sphinx]

but u need 1t staff and pray pen for it to really be easy

[shrewd ermine]

so, do I need to get 3 crystal armour seeds for each set?

[torpid trench]

Skipping the prep phase saves a ton of time, but it doesnt necessarily make the boss fight easier

[scenic garden]

I wish we got the cg echo orb from the first cg

[merry sphinx]

u need 6 armours

[winged sinew]

well i failed very little on the echo hunlif

[merry sphinx]

for the set

[scenic garden]

I hate prep phase so much

[shrewd ermine]

I see, so def a bit of a grind

but i have maxed combat stats so that's cool

[winged sinew]

prep for 4 min just to mess up

[shrewd ermine]

no need to grind gear prior

[winged sinew]

and forget all about it

[shrewd ermine]

I spent 7 minutes doing prep (first time clearing), just to die right before I dropped CG to zero

[merry sphinx]

if you go by drop rates most people should get every drop in the 80kc for enhanced weapon

[merry sphinx]

omg I didnt pick up the rune axe

holy shit

[crystal kelp]

Echo CG fight is harder than normal CG fight. People will argue otherwise but that's because they're strong with leagues buffs etc

[shrewd ermine]

that's nice. I've got toget 100 kills anyways

doing monke first :)

i have slight ptsd because I did 2000 laps during trailblazer lol

[merry sphinx]

why u monkeying around

[shrewd ermine]

280 points + bored

on my laptop rn with a trackpad so im just tryna be productive lol

i originally did it for zulrah shortcut too so not a complete waste

[merry sphinx]

back to the tree spirits

[fathom turret]

370 doom kills without confliction, 340 hydra kills no lance. Im getting tired boss. Didnt even start yama yet

[tranquil pond]

🤝

[merry sphinx]

feelsgoodman

only 5 kills to get it back and I picked it up

[lone bloom]

70 zulrah kc no blowpipe\

[tranquil pond]

how long do kills take though

[lone bloom]

30 seconds

[tranquil pond]

bruh

that's like what, 30 minutes of grinding?

[shrewd ermine]

why does the wiki say I need T and K for trident of the seas?

[tranquil pond]

it's T OR K

[weary shadow]

Tir is to upgrade it

[tranquil pond]

since tir can dismantle a swamp trident

[shrewd ermine]

ah okay

[lone bloom]

zulrah drops trident

[weary shadow]

Ohhh

Well that's nice

[shrewd ermine]

i think zulrah drops the fang to make the swamp trident but does it drop the trident itself?

[vapid silo]

drops it combined

[lone bloom]

no fang, it drops full trident

[shrewd ermine]

oh interesting. is that a league specific thing?

[lone bloom]

ye