leagues-general

[fickle jasper]

So I just farmed other stuff, got stacked and went back with 100% prayer pen

[tawdry carbon]

yeah 1t prayer pen staff will get u whopped on the maingame by real gauntlet

[uncut flint]

leagues shouldn't have a pact tree and shouldn't have resets. I'd rather have 3 big combat relics than a tree and multiple resets. If I mess up, I'll rebond another account, but even if I mess up, the combat doesn't feel terribly imbalanced

[pastel estuary]

what problem are u solving exactly

[tawdry carbon]

this is only valid for osrs addicts who have multiple accs/bonds

its bad for the game to push away people froim other games who come for leagues

[restive dust]

That's the one im doing lmao but im only 75% pen atm lol

[tawdry carbon]

yeah, u wil lnot be able to do gaunt in the real game w/ this

[fickle jasper]

That's such a ridiculous take

[restive dust]

But im learning the prep phase

[tawdry carbon]

cuz ur not learning switching and maintaining dps

[restive dust]

That's been my problem

[tame flax]

i gotta find a place to do forestry where its not people just afk with EH

[fickle jasper]

"I hate this league because people can reset instead of just restarting league on another account"

[uncut flint]

because having 2/3 combat styles be irrelevant for an entire league makes more sense 🤪

[tawdry carbon]

prep is quite simple
make a ring around start, collect 3x of each mat and 2x herb, kill starter mobs for weapon frame, branch straight out and start a circle for boss mats.

[uncut flint]

yup that's a block. You lack any critical thinking skills 😂

[fickle jasper]

Oh no... too much variety and options for players

[tawdry carbon]

ur getting fucked in 2ways for "learning gauntlet" with your method

1. you only need staff. so your prep is not as efficient as you think.
2. you are not learning upkeep on dps + movement + weapon switching. you are mono-combat.

[uncut flint]

I forget that there is no point in arguing with idiots sometimes

[tawdry carbon]

but if it gets u doing the content, yolo!

[chilly pine]

i've been using mage/melee throughout the whole league

[tawdry carbon]

i use all 3 styles with no op pacts in any.

[fickle jasper]

Bro comes in here with a massively stupid opinion and then cries when people don't agree with him.

Peak brain rot

[restive dust]

I can usually do the boss, atleast the normal one, however I never learned the prep, thats the part im learning

[fickle jasper]

Takes a bit to get used to but not bad.

[tawdry carbon]

i told u the prep just now.
make a ring around start, collect 3x of each mat and 2x herb, kill starter mobs for weapon frame, branch straight out and start a circle for boss mats.

but normal gaunt != cg.
how much u have to maintain dps/uptime is a fraction of what u really need.

[fickle jasper]

Mainly gets better if you can handle cg with t1 armor

[restive dust]

I know, im just stating im learning the prep now, I def appreciate the information, it'll def help

[tawdry carbon]

im not knocking u for doing the cheese for league gauntlet.
im just saying ur not learning it the best you can because you 1) shorten your prep via relics and 2) dont learn how to maintain dps uptime w multiple combat

so be ready to get smacked down when you try cg on maingame after this

lol

[fickle jasper]

^

Cg is quite the beast in the main game

[tawdry carbon]

yea i am dry for the pet on maingame

but i think im at a 95% success rate in cg or smth with only 9 regular gaunt kc or some shiet

[eternal reef]

You mean like previous leagues?
This is the most hybrid/tribrid friendly league we've gotten since they started doing combat oriented relic stuff

Remember at the start when everyone was going "oooh water mage is broken!!! Air mage is broken!!! Other builds are dead!!!"
Now you have good builds for every style and several that dip into multiple like the BBC dogger spec resetting rail gun, Thorns, blind bag, 1t staff, and so on

Basically the only builds that don't see a good use are earth mage and bow. Even thrown has a purpose for incredibly point rushing early with chins

[fickle jasper]

Ah cg pet. I spooned that dude very quickly

[next dust]

killed 200 dark beasts and no bow 🙁

[fickle jasper]

https://klipy.com/gifs/brooklyn-nine-nine-test-results

[restive dust]

Once I get the echo thing, I'll probably redo everything and try it normally, but the cheese method won't really effect getting prep no?

[fickle jasper]

Finally have a time to use this

[tawdry carbon]

the reason cg was easy for me was because i did 150 (from 0) kc on tob 416 FFA.
that made me a different beast.

[rich spear]

Got mine in 1kc

[tawdry carbon]

they will because you are only collecting mats for 1 wep lol

[next dust]

i have 3 imbued hearts

[tawdry carbon]

and you wont know how much food youll **actually ** need... because your dps is so high and ur not fucking up switches

[fathom folio]

hey guys this is the first time i play runescape like ever , i did good progress but now im not sure what exactly to do , like whats the endgame what am i supposed to be doing all the time
im at tier 7 in relics

[amber sleet]

I am a blindbagger and the last time i saw another blindbagger was 1 guy 2 days ago at barrows.

[late helm]

How tf

[tawdry carbon]

depends on region

[restive dust]

True true, I understand that, makes sense

[fathom folio]

im running mage , i have the desert and kandarin region unlocked and 54 tasks untill my next region

[cobalt skiff]

is getting a wing for a hunter rumour rare?

been trying for like 10 minutes

[restive dust]

For butterflies?

[cobalt skiff]

yeah

[rich spear]

Butterfly wing? Do you not have the plugin?

[next dust]

hunter rumours have a pity amount

[fickle jasper]

End game would basically be toa for you

[fathom folio]

and im almost 99 on all skills

[next dust]

you can get it early but butterflies are about 110 for pity

[fickle jasper]

Are you doing the correct ones?

[merry sphinx]

250 dry

[cobalt skiff]

sapphire glacialis yeah

[rich spear]

Butterflies are among the highest in droprate

[next dust]

but also have the highest amount needed for pity

[fathom folio]

i seee , thanks

[rich spear]

It's like 200 max you gotta do

[fickle jasper]

Also stuff like inferno and colo

[cobalt skiff]

oh i got it nvm

thank u

[fickle jasper]

But also depends on what your 3rd region is

[covert wolf]

how good is the rate for purple as solo cox?

[fathom folio]

i heard there are raids in the game , are those like multiple player thing or i have to go alone

[fickle jasper]

Both

[rain moth]

I just used my unsireds, got 1 bludgeon axon, and 2 bludgeon claws. anyone know how to fix this lmao

[woven cedar]

Does devil's element count as a shield?

[fickle jasper]

Toa (Tombs of Amascut) can be done solo or group

[fickle jasper]

No

[twilit laurel]

next time claim as you get them. There is no way to fix it

[static arch]

Love how sulphur blades is only 30 points but takes ages to get

[fathom folio]

i heard every drop is 5x better drop rate than the normal game idk

[rain moth]

is this a bug in the main game too????

[twilit laurel]

yes

[rain moth]

fucking scam game

[covert wolf]

idk what's the pts for purple but i got over 30k

[late helm]

Which slayer tasks did you do the most?

[tawdry carbon]

then rip some raids broduski

[covert wolf]

solo before

[twilit laurel]

Just don't stack up unsired

[rain moth]

smfh

[merry sphinx]

i saw faux do sol without doing any damage with his weapon cos he was just maging to heal

[covert wolf]

and yeah got a dhcb

[next dust]

1 from abyssal demons (i got a heart and dagger before whip)
and 2 from dark beasts

[covert wolf]

dunno if there's a fail purple sometimes

[late helm]

Damn wtf

Is dark beasts multi?

[merry sphinx]

im finally free holy frick

[fickle jasper]

no

[next dust]

not in prif anyway

[fickle jasper]

Ouch

And I thought my 205 kc was bad

[tawdry carbon]

why tf does echo thermy have 800 mage def ROFL

[fathom folio]

the mage skill tree is honestly broken as soon as i got the shadow flame quadrant i breezed every boss im proud of that

[merry sphinx]

high mage lvl

[tawdry carbon]

nice now do it in the main game

[covert wolf]

he is a wizard

[uncut flint]

https://tenor.com/view/girl-sure-jan-sarcastic-brady-bunch-gif-11590179

If you call wilderness or bust all combats are good then

[tame flax]

its really not the mage tree's fault, it's the quadrant and element are super strong

[merry sphinx]

i literally have enhanced on the main game at like 6 kc

[tame flax]

water mage by itself is ass, you cant really die but you do no damage

[next dust]

im doing a cooking grind irl in the next week/2. need to buy stuff tho. im gonna try learn how to make tokoyaki

[fickle jasper]

Rng balanced out

[tawdry carbon]

most water mages are pairing it with thorns which is busted tho

[tame flax]

it was horrible when i took water mage early until i got to crossbow and the kbd bow

[next dust]

i can kinda make toast and chicken so. my cooking level is like 8

[fathom folio]

no like i maximize on distant , stacking prayer with prayer pen just makes everything so easy , but u are right

[tame flax]

why i said by itself

[feral sable]

How did everyone get an Air talisman for craft an air rune Task
It's the last one I have left
I thought killing Air Wizards (Specifically the one south of Falador) would be good but I am at 120 kc with no talisman, I thought it was a 1/20 drop lmao

[cobalt skiff]

thorns is just busted lol

[cobalt skiff]

i got it in 3 kc, just unlucky

[graceful lynx]

dear mage players
what ranged switch are you using for ranged grubs in doom

[tawdry carbon]

i kinda wanna try thorns

[fathom folio]

im trying to go for that , but i heard its better with water skill tree on mage

[arctic schooner]

1st kc

[feral sable]

Damn, Hopefully I get the drop soon then

[fickle jasper]

Either water or 1t powered staff

[fair swallow]

@merry sphinx 1100 shaman kc now without a dwh

[cobalt skiff]

i mean its busted yeah, but would you enjoy playing it

[merry sphinx]

💔 yikes

[fathom folio]

i have 3 resets i'll probably switch when i get all 40 skill points

[static arch]

sulphur blade droprate isn't buffed, is it?

[tawdry carbon]

yea

[cobalt skiff]

fair

[merry sphinx]

jagex need to bring dryness protection next leagues

[fickle jasper]

It is

[fair swallow]

finally got the enhanced at 161 echos tho

[fickle jasper]

Something like 1/100

[fair swallow]

still double drop rate

[fathom folio]

yes , what made me play runescape and leagues specifically was endless harvest i enjoy the afk

[vapid silo]

been saying this since leagues 2 but nah for some reason we must have people going 8x for things in the temporary iron mode

[static arch]

T6 unlocked, 200+ kills in. Doesn't feel like it. xD

[cobalt skiff]

then you will love flow state at t7 hahaha

[fickle jasper]

Definitely should be a thing in some cases for leagues

[fathom folio]

i didnt get flow state

[fickle jasper]

Rng being rng. You're a bit over 2x drop rate

[cobalt skiff]

tbf reload is the better option, but flow state is very fun if you enjoy skilling

[fickle jasper]

Unfortunate but not uncommon to happen

[merry sphinx]

last year I had to do 120 TOAs to get all3 megas when it was like 1/20 or 25 to get a sinlge voucher

[fair swallow]

at this rate ill be at the drop rate for main game on dwh

nvm i got it

omfg it's done

[fickle jasper]

gg

[fathom folio]

yea i thought that , my issue with it that its at T7 which for me by the time i got to t7 most of my skills are pretty much 99

[cobalt skiff]

i got to a point where i can kill echo amoxliatl by standing still and combo eating shark+karambwan with endless sustenance lmao

thorns really are broken

[toxic vortex]

I'm trying to get a second one so I can have both

[cobalt skiff]

my fastest kill is 8 seconds xd

[mossy pond]

is there a faster way to level str/att than hitting crab?

[fickle jasper]

Yes

[woven cedar]

slayer, also thorns

[fickle jasper]

Get thorns, go into multi and watch your skills go to 99 in 10 mins

[cobalt skiff]

!task

[chilly pine]

brb doing a slayer task

[amber sleet]

hitting anything else because crab has an xp reduction

[next dust]

spooned??

[late helm]

I respecced just for gauntlet

[fathom folio]

reallly

god damn it i camped this guy for few days

[amber sleet]

yeah it's made to be an afk xp boss not a good xp rate boss

[toxic vortex]

I mean I'm not complaining by any means

[fickle jasper]

The gemstone crab has an exp reduction to compensate for no overkill

[mossy pond]

do thorns give you xp with whatever weapon you are using?

[toxic vortex]

I'm just trying to get a 2nd seed in case I want to run 3t bowfa but also keep saeldor for blindbag for now

[fickle jasper]

But its a great option to afk train

[fathom folio]

omg im sitting at 130M mage XP this is amazing

[fickle jasper]

It gives you exp based on your attack style

Switch to a melee weapon and choose what you want

[mossy pond]

perfect thanks

[peak crypt]

Wait, I may have only just now noticed this, is there no limit on clue scroll cases?

[fickle jasper]

If you have Kandarin, the monkeys are a great option

[toxic vortex]

its only -12.5% less xp

[fickle jasper]

Not in leagues

[toxic vortex]

which in leagues is still a lot of xp

[fickle jasper]

Crab is what you do if you want to afk train

If you want to pay a bit more attention, naguas

[peak crypt]

holy shit that's awesome lol. I've been doing them every two scrolls haha. Didn't know I didn't have to do that

[scenic creek]

so my plan for smithing was to kill 2000 mithril dragons and get dfs + lvl 90 at roughly same time

which of course meant i've dropped the visage at 50 kc

so any ideas what else is worth killing for ingot drops with minion?

[amber sleet]

do u have larcenist?

[scenic creek]

i suppose i could go for the dragon platehelm

i do

[amber sleet]

go steal from mor ul rek ore stall

u will have thousands of ore in minutes

[tropic valve]

anyone know if drygore works for the unconventional ca

or does the burn fail it

[chilly pine]

gargoyles give bars, zalcano gives bars

[late helm]

The echo boss is so much better. You can also practice the boss without having to suffer through all the prep

[scenic creek]

ty ill go try the ore stalls

[late helm]

Spooned!!

[cobalt skiff]

bro i have 6 araxxor heads and 0 other uniques

[scenic creek]

its funny how some of the echo bosses are faster than non-echo

[cobalt skiff]

140 kc

[scenic creek]

echo guardians is like 40 seconds

[late helm]

Same 😂 echo hunleff is actually easier imo

[regal spindle]

which zamorak items feed the minion?

[cobalt skiff]

all

[late helm]

Except zamorak brew

[cobalt skiff]

lol true

[misty sigil]

i'm going all the way to 50 for my lithic aren't i

[cobalt skiff]

pet feels more like a loot bot than anything else tbh

[fathom folio]

which stall has a chance to give u a racoon pet ore or gem stall

when stealing from them

[fickle jasper]

All of them should

[fathom folio]

ty

10k points till the next relic o god

i sacrficed my life just to get to tier 7 im not sure i can unlock the last one

[woeful osprey]

hey all does thorns activate with elemental shield or nah

[cobalt skiff]

all shields in offhand

[fickle jasper]

Yes

[chilly pine]

ty for the idea, i just killed 3 dragons for a visage lol

[late helm]

100kc kraken so far - at least I have 300 oak planks saved up for construction

[woeful osprey]

sweet ok I read earlier it wasnt workin for elementa shield

[fickle jasper]

😮

Where?

[balmy reef]

is it more efficient to just spam 1 barrows brother or kill them all in leagues?

[fleet ibex]

Has anyone got a video for soloing nex with melee this leagues? I'm struggling to get the pact

[static arch]

Think it'll be before 4x rate, or between 4 and 5x rate?

[amber sleet]

depends on what u want to get

[late helm]

Kill them all

[toxic vortex]

Yeah I definitely didn't struggle here

[balmy reef]

i just want ahrims

[toxic vortex]

Would just be nice to get the 2nd enh

[amber sleet]

just killing ahrim is fine then

[toxic vortex]

I'm still specced in to 100% prayer pen, so I sorta want to grind the 2nd

[paper hull]

What's better early game, Powered Staves or Combat Spell Speed
I got 7 points in thorns and moving towards getting one of those 2

[regal spindle]

so which items are you giving to the minion.........

is your only option to farm clue scrolls for zamorak affiliated items?

[toxic vortex]

early game probably combat spells only because getting a powered staff early is very limited

[balmy reef]

so do i get potential or legit just spam?

[toxic vortex]

depends on your regions

[amber sleet]

potential doesn't affect your chance of getting ahrims

[toxic vortex]

potential only modifies the standard loot you get

like runes, coins

[balmy reef]

ahh thats right

[late helm]

Wait is it? What ways is it more limited than regular spell casting?

[balmy reef]

been quite some tiem since i've donbe barrows

[toxic vortex]

Meaning getting a powered staff in the early game

Earliest option I can think of is the warped sceptre in Kandarin

[late helm]

Oh - I see. Warped sceptre is super easy to get tho

[fathom turret]

Dont really understand doom drop rates, am I dry yet https://gyazo.com/b77679062cebe954cb95a0747b8f3a25

[amber sleet]

if you don't have evil eye though then maybe killing the other brothers will be ideal for you if you will ever want the other pieces for tasks/to use

because the run to the chest each time will add up

[paper hull]

What if i could get warped sceptre?

[toxic vortex]

If you could get warped, I'd consider it. What regions do you have?

[late helm]

I got warped sceptre super fast

[paper hull]

Is it worth getting that and going powered sceptre relic or getting the combat spell speed relic?

[cobalt skiff]

does magic level affect the damage from fang of the hound?

[late helm]

Lithic sceptre is easy too

[copper gorge]

Just get both. Its 2 pact points

[late helm]

1T powered staff can let you obliterate all bosses in the game practically with thorns

[copper gorge]

Water spells infinite heals too

[late helm]

If you want an easy combat pact tree to go down, power staffs is soooo easy

[fathom turret]

If you dont have crystal armor boosting powered staffs they seem useless to me

[late helm]

There are accuracy pacts

[paper hull]

Hmm okay so powered staff > combat spell if u have a powered staff right

[late helm]

Pretty much

[warm hazel]

does anyone have a link to a 1t staff with thorns build?

[scenic creek]

i think kandarin echo item is the best technically

[fathom turret]

staffs feel better in every way

[late helm]

If you have 12+ pacts

[fathom turret]

then go giga chad once u get thermy staff

[willow finch]

I’m convinced water staff is better than powered staff for healing

[scenic creek]

anyone got thermy staff build btw

[amber sleet]

air is the most damage, fire is the best aoe, water has the most raw sustain, charged staves are a good combo of damage+sustain and can tick eat every tick

[scenic creek]

about to respec into it

[amber sleet]

fire mage on nylocas room is pretty funny

[crystal forge]

I’m in kbd hell lol 800kc and no visage

[amber sleet]

you solo clear all the adds in a group hm tob

[fathom turret]

fire spells would be cool if you could get them without the life sacrifice

[amber sleet]

the bounce fire hit from the aoe node is typeless, or at least it seems to ignore immunities

so it kills all the nylocas colors

[tawdry carbon]

if i want a specific barrow armor piece, can i kill just that brother?

[amber sleet]

yes

[tawdry carbon]

nice, thx

thatll make completing all the sets easier lol

[amber sleet]

be aware barrows doesn't have the drop qol that moons does

[tawdry carbon]

if youre hunting a specific piece, why do some people still kill all brothers then?

[amber sleet]

it took me 400 dharoks to get the whole set cause i got repeats of every other item than chest

[amber sleet]

they either don't know or just want the other pieces for tasks idk

it also might feel better to our goofy pattern recognition monkey brains

cause you see more drops when you kill all brothers

[tawdry carbon]

got it, ty

[latent oracle]

Any blindbag enjoyers calc the best dps?

Is it full hurricane boppers build with ranged echos?

A mix of NHally boppers hurricane to attack at a distance and raise minimum hits

Or like scythe / NHally / godsword blindbag?

[late helm]

Right - fwiw, the dps calcs for 1t power staff was 60% higher than all the elemental spell builds for the bosses and slayer I was doing

[amber sleet]

the calcs are maybe not accurate rn

[tawdry carbon]

someone told me the ranged echoes dont help at all

[late helm]

Elemental spell builds are kind of for fun and for the memes

[amber sleet]

as far as i can tell the best dps is boppers in your blindbag with nhally if you can 7 tile and dual macs in main hand if u need to be close

[tawdry carbon]

with what gear / pacts?

[fathom turret]

@late helm the elemental spells also have like 6x the healing tho

[late helm]

The one exception was huey. Water build let’s you do 1k kc huey afk

[late helm]

This is also a valid reason for elemental pact builds

[tough finch]

Finally got my quadrant + element, god damn this shit slaps

[late helm]

Thorns + 1t staff

[tawdry carbon]

is it better than powered staff ?

[tawdry carbon]

ah but without thorns its stinky ?

[uneven stag]

Heyo. I'm a new-ish player and participating in my first leagues... Currently bashing my head against the 3-jad challenge using a powered staff/thorns build. Does anyone know - do the healers keep respawning or once they're dead they don't come back?

[tough finch]

I wouldn't know, I haven't grinded out ayak

I've just been having fun doing fire/water builder spender mage

[uneven stag]

Currently failing hard at multitasking, I can flick prayers correctly but that leaves no bandwidth for targeting healers and vice versa

[tough finch]

i ran it back on echo thermy after getting these and it increased my PB 20s first kill

44s from 1:08

[amber sleet]

each jad only spawns healers 1 time

[uneven stag]

it seemed to me that the healers were far-outhealing the damage I was dealing so it seems like I have to kill them

[late helm]

Well thorns is great for bosses that you wanna reflect a ton of damage. 1t staff is great for early game

[amber sleet]

unless you let them full heal him maybe? i don't think i've ever seen him spawn more than 1 set personally

[late helm]

If you tag each healer once, they will die to your thorns

Or you can use flask with t8 relic

[amber sleet]

so looking at the wiki it looks like the fight cave jad can respawn healers if he heals to full but inferno jads can't

[uneven stag]

sounds simple on paper, but in practice I couldn't do that while also tracking the prayers I should be using

[amber sleet]

and the challenge jads should be inferno jads

so they only get 1 healer spawn each

[uneven stag]

I managed to get it my next attempt after writing all that, I guess sometimes you just have to complain about it for it to fall into place

[late helm]

With thorns build, you can just afk pray mage if you have enough pacts and defence

[fathom turret]

can still get stacked out but yea for the most part you can

I just watched for several ranged in a row

and swaped for that then went back to mage camp

[uneven stag]

yeah my gear is still pretty wet-paper-bag

hunllef and moons have not been kind to me 🤣

[near magnet]

is there a place to buy cooked karambs?

[late helm]

Karamja

[fathom turret]

bar in brimhaven

[narrow epoch]

96 kills on Cave Kraken, and 99 on the Kraken boss with no trident...

[uneven stag]

oof

I've had some truly ridiculous rng and it's pissing my friend off to no end

[late helm]

Just got my trident at 160 kc

[mint stone]

@heady horizon https://tools.runescape.wiki/demonic-pacts/?n=1-10-100-101-11-112-113-114-122-135-136-139-140-141-145-146-44-45-46-55-56-57-58-59-6-60-61-68-7-71-8-81-84-87-9-93-94-96-97-99

[uneven stag]

had full zulrah greenlogged minus pet within 23 kc, he went about 100 before getting the staff

[narrow epoch]

I already have the Lithic Sceptre, which is helping, but still, I want the pact...

[amber sleet]

so glad i got to get my kandarin trident pact off deconstructing the one from zulrah

farming the kraken for longer as a blindbag build with 0 mage pacts was gonna be aids

[narrow epoch]

Thorns doesn't even help with Krakens lol

[uneven stag]

I'm a little salty that my build of choice isn't especially powerful in gauntlet, but that's really just because I'm so bad at the game that I need to be able to brute force this stuff

ah well, sucking at something is the first step to being kinda good at something :D

[late helm]

I also suck, so I respecced into 1T staff just for gauntlet

[latent oracle]

That's what I was thinking. Ran full boppers the past few days and the tiles increasing min hit so much seems super impactful in theory

[uneven stag]

I'm 1t staff thorns

[narrow epoch]

I'm trying to get to 1 tick sceptre / trident... if I can ever get it lol

[uneven stag]

shame thorns and recoil cannot work in gauntlet 🤣

[bronze tangle]

failed fight caves on wave 60 😭

[uneven stag]

buuuut I just unlocked 75% prayer pen and the third hp buffer pact

[late helm]

Are you using prayer pen?

[uneven stag]

so maybe this time

[narrow epoch]

THought they fixed that?

[bronze tangle]

should've gone thorns

[uneven stag]

nope? they fixed regen-related pacts in gauntlet

[amber sleet]

it was on the investigating list iirc

not fixed

[narrow epoch]

Ah

[uneven stag]

but all thorns/recoil pacts rely on specific types of equipment

[late helm]

This makes it so much more chill

[uneven stag]

none of which exist in gauntlet

I suppose one fix could be to let you go into echo hunllef with your own gear

[dusty halo]

Can we not complete sins of the father? how can i get to Paterdomus for the quest

[uneven stag]

at the point you have the echo orb you've proven proficiency of the normal gauntlet mechanics

[uneven stag]

you can now, that was fixed

from what I was told

[late helm]

I just dropped hally and bow when I did echo cg

[narrow epoch]

You can

[amber sleet]

which part are you stuck on?

i did the quest fine

[spring cipher]

i went into the tob leagues world to try hmt yesterday and my god nobody there has tob exp main game we couldnt even pass maiden

[pure karma]

do i have to melee the final boss in sins of the father?

[late helm]

Go in from the morytania side

[uneven stag]

haha, that's hilarious, but expected

[narrow epoch]

I'm working my way there... slowly

[uneven stag]

I have no tob experience except for in gridmaster

and this is my first league

so I'm in for all kinds of fun

[dusty halo]

It wants me to meet veliaf in paterdomus but i can't get through from mortyania

[amber sleet]

yeah but none of the blindbag pacts work for the ivandis flail so ur basically gonna be doing it the same as any melee builder anyways

[spring cipher]

and then my friends invited me and suddenly the difference felt like night and day

[pure karma]

lmao

[spring cipher]

[dusty halo]

NVM I was clicking on the agility shortcut

[narrow epoch]

Gridmaster was a good time though! Did plenty of ToB runs there just for the fun of it

[amber sleet]

you can't? i was able to just go down into the cellar/crypt area from mory side

[late helm]

Anyone here learning new content for main game?

[spring cipher]

i got invited to my friend's group and now acquired my stuff

[uneven stag]

"It turns out that if you do the thing, and you do it well, it works... it just... works"

[spring cipher]

yep

[uneven stag]

https://tenor.com/view/jon-tron-it-works-it-just-works-gif-15286450

[pure karma]

is tob soloable with thorns?

[uneven stag]

aw no embeds for me

[spring cipher]

https://tenor.com/view/jon-tron-it-works-it-just-works-gif-15286450

[late helm]

Does avernic defender work without asgarnia?

[spring cipher]

it drops the item as a whole

[latent oracle]

Lmk if they wanna carry some dead weight

[pure karma]

yeah same

[late helm]

Oh nice

[spring cipher]

we're killing verzik when first crabs spawn p3 lmafo

and thats wild

cause its hmt and she gets the healing

[static arch]

Yeah... consider me doubtful. Several friends also went past maingame rates trying to get Sulphur. xD

[narrow epoch]

Sulphur is weirdly low drop rate, yeah

[spring cipher]

during this leagues it takes 1 player to wipe the team cause they use their flask as dps

[late helm]

At least it is super afk

[willow finch]

Kril with mage. Pray mage or melee

?

[amber sleet]

boosted rates are only for specific uniques iirc

[static arch]

they posted it's 1 in 90

[amber sleet]

so i don't think sulphurous essence would even be boosted

[static arch]

unless the screenshot earlier was old/bad info

[narrow epoch]

507 Sulphur Naguas, and 129 Sulphur...

[static arch]

Yeah, 1/90 is the posted. But almost everyone I've talked to who who has actually tried the grind in this league hasn't experienced a boosted rate. So I do suspect an issue.

[spring cipher]

u can 100% go dry in leagues lol

[tawdry carbon]

are the ranged echoes actually meaningful dps for the blind bags ?

someone told me the dps calc says they are irrelevant

can anyone here knowledgabel confirm

[latent oracle]

I can confirm they slap

[late helm]

Non-larceny user spotted

[tawdry carbon]

so you need to grab all the ranged tree stuff ?

[latent oracle]

Boppers build they feel significantly strong seeing all of the monster hit splats from echos

[tawdry carbon]

its only 5% thats why im unsure

[latent oracle]

Yeah for increased proc, max hits, and for chaining ghosts

[static arch]

Spent years playing Destiny 2 with a large portion of the playerbase complaining about not getting drops dramatically past rate. Everyone just kept saying "it's just RNG," then last year they finally proved that the tables were incorrectly weighted (weren't supposed to be weighted at all), with literal impossible roll combinations all that time. xD

[amber sleet]

yes

[latent oracle]

5% per melee hit boppers, then increased with pact, and Blindbag can proc it more too

[tawdry carbon]

which pact raises the 5% proc rate ?

[amber sleet]

crossbow 15% increase

[tawdry carbon]

this actually works?

[amber sleet]

also the one that lets them chain up to 4 procs is effectively a chance increase

[tawdry carbon]

so its 20% with that node ?

[latent oracle]

I've had zulrah kills before it moves from ranged echos, more than once in sub 20 kills

[spring cipher]

yea i regretted not picking it

honestly

[latent oracle]

20% per bopper hit

[tawdry carbon]

does it actually add together like that? if so, i will spec into it

[amber sleet]

yes it works that way

yes it is worth taking

[tawdry carbon]

ty.

i will spec that way.

[amber sleet]

yes blindbag is still weaker than most other builds

but it's also strong enough imo

[tawdry carbon]

yeah thats fine i have no more respecs

[cerulean geode]

it seems they forgot about maniacal monkeys for hunter in leagues. The forager's backpack isn't gathering herbs when training this hunter activity, and the drop rates don't feel increased

[tawdry carbon]

i have some in bow, some in blindbag, some in magic

[latent oracle]

Boppers DOESNT increase blindbag procs tho right? Just echos?

[amber sleet]

correct

[late helm]

But the memories you create with blindbag are worth it

[fickle root]

tob tactics

[shrewd ermine]

does it matter which slayer master i chose? not sure if the slayer masters will assign monsters specific to that region or if it's just random

[amber sleet]

they changed it so it matters now yeah

all slayer masters have their actual task pools from main game

[spring cipher]

xD

[late helm]

Yes

[tacit oyster]

where are all the bowfa users?

[fickle root]

oh those are in my main game regular tobs

[tawdry carbon]

i have one

[shrewd ermine]

gotcha. ive not done much slayer in the main game. does Duradel basically assign stuff mostly in the brimhaven dungeon?

[tawdry carbon]

doesnt duradel have the highest boss task percentage

[fickle root]

top right.

[shrewd ermine]

idk. it's either that or the kandarin slayer master (or varlamore). just not sure which is best for getting slayer xp

[late helm]

Are you gonna bring it to tob?

[shrewd ermine]

cause I know some slayer tasks are awful

but idk which ones are and are not

[obsidian cape]

so ive figure out how the blind bag randomly unequipping your weapon is reproducable, if you move on the same tick your blind bag activates, you will auto equip the weapon that blind bagged first

[late helm]

Which tasks do you want to do?

[shrewd ermine]

anything good for xp

[amber sleet]

i've never had this happen without speccing

it's speccing during a blindbag proc that has kept that weapon equipped for me

[fickle root]

it's speccing

[obsidian cape]

it happens to me way too much and i ddont swap

[fickle root]

when you click spec the same tick you attack with your mainhand it equips your next blindbag

[amber sleet]

i literally cannot think of a single time i've had that happen without speccing

are u sure it's not u using spec?

cause i just don't spec anymore with blindbag because of that bug

[fickle root]

^

[late helm]

You probably want multi tasks with duradel

[fickle root]

it's very consistent with spec and i've never had it happen with move

[shrewd ermine]

got zulrah from duradel 😭

[fickle root]

and you move all the time in tob

[shrewd ermine]

probably not terrible but ive not done zulrah in a long time lol

[warm smelt]

welp im officially 1 in 20 million.
1000 kc callisto no hilt

[late helm]

Give it a shot

[shrewd ermine]

gotcha. if I leave this GUI, will those 3 stay the same?

not sure if culling spree saves that option or if it "rerolls" it

[late helm]

It should

[shrewd ermine]

which should I do?

cause I do more dmg to zulrah now its a slayer task

[amber sleet]

wtf why is your cap 35?

[shrewd ermine]

culling spree

[late helm]

Yeah I’m wondering that too

[amber sleet]

it lets me do 200

[limber peak]

is left or right capstone more important for crossbow build, the always max hit or the double accuracy roll

[late helm]

Mine are always 5-200

[narrow epoch]

I get 5-200

[shrewd ermine]

maybe cause im slayer lv 1 lol

[narrow epoch]

Ah

[amber sleet]

interesting

[narrow epoch]

Maybe

[toxic vortex]

do you have culling?

[shrewd ermine]

so should I max it out i guess?

yeah

thats why I can pick how many

just not sure if I want to do all that bossing lol

[late helm]

Are you going to actually grind zulrah? I would max it if you are confident you want to actually do 35 kc

[amber sleet]

35 zulrah really doesn't take long

[shrewd ermine]

eh might as well

[outer hazel]

time to do artio instead

[late helm]

Do it then

[shrewd ermine]

sadly I dont have much into range pacts

[warm smelt]

they need to build a dry scoreboard

will motivate people

[outer hazel]

when i was doing voidwaker i just assumed everyone ahead of me was more dry

[warm smelt]

nobody is more dry than me

i got a cool bear pet

but thats it

[outer hazel]

lmaoo

i got venenatis and vetion pet

before voidwaker drop

[fickle root]

Probably max, it's straight up double dps

[narrow epoch]

I wonder if they're going to give more extra respecs at any point

[fickle root]

You're getting both though yeah

[narrow epoch]

150 cave kraken kills... no trident

[limber peak]

Not if you miss all your attacks

[amber sleet]

the only reason i can imagine them adding more respecs at this point would be if they make significant pact changes going forward

which is probably not that likely

[fickle root]

Unless you never hit a single attack at all it's still double dps

[narrow epoch]

It'd be nice if they allowed grinding the Echo bosses for respecs somehow

[tired slate]

Are there any people that could help with Barbarian Assault in leagues? I need some wrath runes from there

[narrow epoch]

Holy crap I finally got the trident

[warm smelt]

theyd probably add content at 4 weeks to get people to pay for another month

[fickle root]

always gotta complain to get good rng

[cobalt skiff]

what do i pickpocket in priff for the smithing/crafting fix?

[amber sleet]

elves

[cobalt skiff]

any elves?

[amber sleet]

any of the elves with pickpocket option

[cobalt skiff]

alright, didnt know if i needed a specific one

[amber sleet]

also u need 70-78 smithing+crafting first before u can sing

but once you get that it's like unironically less than 10 mins to 99

[vapid silo]

bro why did I not do vale totems earlier, that was like 10 super quick tasks lmao

[next dust]

second try?

[crystal forge]

Kbd is 1/1000 for visage in leagues right?

[spring cipher]

ye

[timber quest]

I spent soo much time fletching broad bolts D:

[crystal forge]

I’m damn near 900 kc and no visage

[timber quest]

Then learned de hwey

[crystal forge]

I’m in kbd hell

[timber quest]

O7

[spring cipher]

ur not even on rate no?

[warm smelt]

thats expected with visage though

[keen crane]

What should I replace my rune mace with? Still locked in valamore

[crystal forge]

100 away

[timber quest]

Addy spear til moxi boppers

If you got the +3 per tile

[warm smelt]

im at 17x rate right now

[inner zenith]

are jars boosted?

[amber sleet]

if u have like 15 million gold u can get 200m+ xp/hr fletching arrows at the ranging guild

[timber quest]

I did see that but I gotta make all the heads myself too right?

[amber sleet]

nope

[timber quest]

Not heads

[amber sleet]

u buy them

[timber quest]

Feathered shafts

[amber sleet]

well

[timber quest]

Idk why I said heads

[amber sleet]

u buy shafts and feathers

then u make the feathered shafts and then the complete arrows

[marsh haven]

was there any word on deep delve drop rates?

[timber quest]

I did get like 10k heads last night with this intention

[amber sleet]

u can buy feather packs from fishing shops so buying enough of those takes no time at all,

[timber quest]

Today I have 0 timed.. 0 xD

Do u have woodsman per chance? :p

[amber sleet]

i do

[shrewd ermine]

so im going to do thr zulrah task. just curious though, to get an extra pact, should I clear the fight caves first? not sure if that would be easier, especially when my pacts are mostly melee/thorns focused atm

[timber quest]

I do not, but it's still fat xp

[spring cipher]

yea to be on rate lmao 1/1000 is really rare you know that right

[narrow epoch]

Now time to grind for the kraken tentacle

[timber quest]

Yeee get fire cape, str bonus and def bonus' are good

[uneven laurel]

Do regen pacts work on quiver charges? I'm guessing not, since it doesn't work for ring of suffering

[warm smelt]

fuck it im going to artio

[timber quest]

Glgl

[shrewd ermine]

bet. I'll do cg too probably. max combat stats minus 81 prayer

[amber sleet]

the only skill i don't have a solve for with my relic setup is runecrafting so i'm going to have to suffer through ourania altar after i dump all my lamps into it from diaries

[timber quest]

Hell yeeeee glgl

[shrewd ermine]

im probably going to get soul relic for that

[amber sleet]

soul relic makes rc piss but it also only solves rc

so i didn't want to take it

[shrewd ermine]

i have everything else solved for me

[timber quest]

I reloaded for soul harvest, it's pretty fuckin nicrrr

What's ur tree seed supply like?

It's a huge source of souls for me

[toxic vortex]

This is the way

[uneven laurel]

The main limitation in doing fight caves is sustain. You could probably do a quasi-vanilla fight caves run with brews and restores, depending on your pact points. You might be able to do it safely but slowly with just thorns.

[timber quest]

If you have desert, the gotr kc task gets you most of the way to 99 rc

[toxic vortex]

I'll afk barb fishing for agility if I need do

Outside of doing some basic course tasks

[shrewd ermine]

woodsman + transmutation and I also can pickpocket farmers with larcenist for 10x seeds

[amber sleet]

honestly it might not be that bad after all the lamps

[shrewd ermine]

also have kandarin for extra tree patches

[amber sleet]

i've only put western provinces lamps and sins of the father books into it so far and my rc is already 82

[timber quest]

I hoped for this but no tree seeds from pickpocketing

[toxic vortex]

4 sets of diary lamps at 16x is a lot of xp

[uneven laurel]

I got level 93 RC from lamps alone

[shrewd ermine]

ive gotten some seeds

[timber quest]

Vale totems gave me fattttt seeds

[spring cipher]

since u have like several rerolls why not spec into water pacts and just sustain and get ur free firecape

[timber quest]

I've got like 50 magics, 30ish dfruit and 5 calquats

[uneven laurel]

Taking Kandarin and Tiranwnn got me three diaries in two regions, so most routes get less lamps than I did. I finished my fifth and final elite diary last night.

[timber quest]

Ooo anothet chally user? :D

[uneven laurel]

Yeah Chally is the GOAT

[amber sleet]

ye i'm blindbag so i have KTM i have a lot of lamps left to get

and sins was huge on its own

[cobalt skiff]

does thorns damage count as attacking? (for the perk in demonic pacts that says, whenever you attack an enemy from 2 tiles away gain 2% energy

[timber quest]

I've been having so much fun freezing a group of mobs and running 7 tiles away

[spring cipher]

i would like to think so , thorns proc blood fury healing im pretty sure too

[shrewd ermine]

wanted to be pretty convervative with my relic resets since they're pretty limited but I could yeah. I do want to get all of my cg stuff out of the way and make the most out of my bow pact

[timber quest]

Freeze em on 1 spot, stand on the spot so they spread, freeze, run, chally middle one and it's soooo much damage haha

[shrewd ermine]

basically my plan is to get CG tasks done, then respec

[timber quest]

I had to do this xD

[merry sphinx]

good luck

[uneven laurel]

SotF is worth more exp than an entire diary, right? Mory is great

[timber quest]

Thank god for those 2 extra resets

[amber sleet]

it's a lot

i don't remember specifically how much but i was getting some few hundred thousand xp per book use

[timber quest]

Is sotf combat xp lamps or open?

[amber sleet]

any

i used it on rc

[timber quest]

Noice

[amber sleet]

u can also claim the books for the previous quest

which is less xp but still a good bit

[timber quest]

Certified teehee moment

[crystal kelp]

Any but need level 60 first

[timber quest]

I misremembered how much I enjoyed bone shard mining

[fleet ibex]

Anyone know if equipping fortified masori counts for completing the "Equip full masori" task?

[merry sphinx]

you fortified it before wearing it?

[timber quest]

That's a solid 50/50 cuz you'd think it would work but jagex

[fleet ibex]

Nah not yet, but I'd rather not wait on getting all 3 before doing so

[merry sphinx]

yea waiting is probably better

[amber sleet]

at this point i have 2 respecs left and i'm saving them to see what blindbag changes they make and if it makes me change my setup

if not then i'll try out thorns blindbag then go back to halberd after and stay there

[fleet ibex]

Bold of you to assume they're making changes to blindbag

[amber sleet]

well

fixing the movement eating procs is on the investigating list

[narrow epoch]

Oh for fs sake... I got a SECOND Trident of the Seas... still haven't gotten a tentacle lol

[jovial tiger]

im so lucky... :)

[spring cipher]

@low tangle 😃

[fluid fable]

I cant believe i have to regrind out infernal tepactle 😭 😭

Its so annoying

Altho i do actually quite like the fight, so its not too bad

But ugh

Gimme pact already

[spring cipher]

wait

why do u need to regrind it out

[fluid fable]

Coz i died when they dropped

[lone bloom]

why did i get a dupe moon spear? thought u couldnt get dupes in this boss

fml

[amber sleet]

because u have the full set

[fleet ibex]

You get dupes when you complete a set

[lone bloom]

should i just camp eclipse/blood then?

[amber sleet]

yes

[willow finch]

Man fk grinding 87 slayer for kraken trident

[lone bloom]

ugh

[fleet ibex]

Depends, if you kill blue moon quickly then probs not

They're the easier of the moons so

[amber sleet]

i mean it works like barrows where killing more of them just increases tertiary drop rate

if he doesnt want blue moon gear killing blue moon isnt giving him anything

unless he really wants the mats

[lone bloom]

yea blue is ez. im also maxed gear + minion so i destroy him in 20 seconds

[fluid fable]

Hard disagree

Eclipse moons the only close to hard moon

[fleet ibex]

If your defense is low blood moon is torture

[little wraith]

blood is only easy if you have the defense

[fleet ibex]

On leagues it's fine but blue moon doesn't actively heal itself, it just stops you dealing one attack

[fluid fable]

Idk what blood does

[little wraith]

blood heals itself on hit

[amber sleet]

it heals itself for like 60 per attack if all 3 hit you

[fluid fable]

She has some cats just stare ay u and some drops that seem bad to stand in

[little wraith]

eclipse isnt hard just stalls really hard

clone phase is free

[fluid fable]

Idk wtf ur meant to do against that phase where she teleports around

[amber sleet]

yeah eclipse would be cringe if it had more time to stack up the debuff on you frequently

but in my experience most eclipse fights end with the first clone phase

[fluid fable]

I just sit there and munch on a lot of food

[scenic creek]

can you guess what singular item i started barrows for

[little wraith]

click on the clones as soon as they spawn to parry with no attack delay

[fluid fable]

Ah

I should of probably thought of clicking her lmao

[amber sleet]

meta for eclipse is carrying a slow weapon in your bags to swap to for clone phase

cause you're getting the same number of attacks in regardless of speed

you can smoke eclipse really fast doing that even in main game

[little wraith]

by slow they mean high damage

[amber sleet]

ye

[fluid fable]

Yeye i got it

Elder maul ass shit

[little wraith]

you got it

[spring cipher]

u can get dupes for the same gear but u will get 1 of each gear for each gear

and then after u get all the gear

u just roll whatever like barrows does

[fluid fable]

I have eclipse moon hat 🙂

Pretty sure i transmuted it

Or whatever

Alched

[little wraith]

one of the neat things about tranmutation book is it frees up an inventory slot for superheat

[fluid fable]

Um

How?

What

[little wraith]

usually I would have nature runes in inventory

[cosmic pine]

because it counts as inf nats

and u can wield it

[fluid fable]

Instead u have a book that takes up the same amount of slots as a nature rune does

[little wraith]

you can wield in off-hand

[fluid fable]

Oh true

Ye ig, i havent done that in ages kinda forgot u even could

[amber sleet]

has anyone tested if casting superheat without the book or nature runes in the bag works like casting the transmutes does?

[olive sapphire]

Has anyone gotten tanzanite fang from Zulrah this league?

[amber sleet]

you get the full item

and can deconstruct

[nocturne flume]

does anyone know how to spawn a broodoo victim? I've been chopping for 20 min

[next dust]

thats the fourth imbued heart

[nocturne flume]

nvm i just spawned one lol

[merry sphinx]

what happened to the wdr discord i cant join

[crystal kelp]

Nothing, are you banned?

[merry sphinx]

nah

I tried on multiple accounts too

[crystal kelp]

What error you get?

[spring cipher]

i feel like u got banned

and once u get banned u cant join on the same ip

even on diff accounts

[narrow mesa]

anyone know if you can vendor enhanced crystal teleports or make gp off them somehow

[amber sleet]

yes

[merry sphinx]

what would I be banned for I barely even used the server

[amber sleet]

go to the jungle general store near brimhaven

[merry sphinx]

I doubt its a ban

[narrow mesa]

vendor them there?

[amber sleet]

ye

[narrow mesa]

ty

[amber sleet]

with karamja gloves ideally

but without is ok too

[narrow mesa]

ok thank you

[amber sleet]

u need t3 gloves for that shop specifically i think

[tawdry carbon]

is the best xp for smithing / crafting to just do 2-3 crystal armors and revert?

or is there something faster

[merry sphinx]

im pretty sure its the fastest

with just 2 armour seeds doing legs I was getting 32m an hour

[amber sleet]

might be faster to buy a bunch of regular weapon seeds

if u only have a couple armors

[tawdry carbon]

i only have 2 bodies

[amber sleet]

i got 50m/hr with 11 crystal blows

[dusk cedar]

i'm not seeing a single impling higher than ecclectic in puropuro

[lone bloom]

cuz theyre rare

[merry sphinx]

just keep running around

highlight the imps u want with npc indicator

[amber sleet]

once you see one tag all on it if you have that plugin

helps a lot for finding more

[merry sphinx]

dragon impling,lucky impling,ninja impling,gourmet impling, crystal impling, this in my npc indicator

gourmet for easy clues

[tawdry carbon]

im getting 80m/hr with 2 bodies

i guess thats best?

[dusk cedar]

i'll keep looking. i need that dragon impling for the task

[amber sleet]

probably yeah

[eternal fog]

35 expert toas and no mega rare why even play leagues atp.. anyone else have this bad of luck or is this normal??

[merry sphinx]

I have 20 armours I could do 6x bodies

once I finish kraken I'll see how fast it goes

[narrow epoch]

😭 Why isn't Kraken an instance lol

[lone bloom]

im almost 100 moon kc dry

[merry sphinx]

are you playing in a group

[eternal fog]

Yes mostly but not always

[crystal kelp]

It can be if you right click private

[narrow epoch]

1. Great to know!
2. I just then found an open world lol

[merry sphinx]

100 kills

[limber peak]

Are hellhounds chinnable in wildy

[eternal fog]

Honestly a relic that drops stuff based off the rate would be cool this is so annoying being dry on leagues…

[merry sphinx]

they should just make drops guaranteed after a certain point over the drop rate

[narrow epoch]

Some are

[merry sphinx]

only echoes

[eternal fog]

Yes exactly, ur not even that strong this leagues. I put in the same amount of hours on DMM and honestly imo it was more fun than leagues so far it was easier too

[shrewd ermine]

is the meta for mage thorn builds is to have one powered weapon and one non powered and switch when you need to heal?

[merry sphinx]

temp game mode where the rewards are worth nothing in the main game

[narrow epoch]

You can heal off thorns

[dusk cedar]

finally found one nature impling

[long trail]

reload nature's accord if im hating farm and herb?

[tawdry carbon]

Woohoo!!!!

[amber sleet]

if you stack defense and pray mage you basically don't need to swap ever

[shrewd ermine]

true, but ive seen a lot of people use water and thorns

[amber sleet]

you'd need to get very unlucky and get smoked by back to back or same tick ranged hits for a high number

[tawdry carbon]

all i have to do is triple my points

[eternal fog]

So the leagues meta is thorns and afk the whole game or any other build and you gotta sweat like the main game, got it 👍🏼

[long trail]

ive only seen people camp the quadrant so i dont think so?

[narrow epoch]

You can get a pact that makes it so powered staves also regen water runes

[merry sphinx]

dont wanna panic but im already over drop rate for trident

if I go 3x dry here like at cg

[smoky raft]

I use earth+thorns

thorns has 2 seperate ways to heal- I very rarely have to eat, and when I do it's usually because I'm ignoring mechanics

[marsh haven]

im almost 5x drop rate on treads

[cosmic pine]

dont worry you got all the hard tasks out of the way the next 2/3 should be easy

[marsh haven]

this sucks

[long trail]

i mean i dont think its fair to compare to main game at all
you can do like a crazy amount of dmg almost no matter what you're using

[eternal fog]

When I’m spending 15 hours at toa for a mega I might as well play the main game is the way I see it

[long trail]

unfortunately its only 1 rune :\

i did not mean for caps

[smoky raft]

idk, I think powered staves are fine as is

[amber sleet]

yeah but it's a tick eat every single tick

[long trail]

1hp per tick or 10hp per 3t

[narrow epoch]

True, but when coupled with thorns healing, and the attack rate of the powered staves it adds up

[long trail]

the healing is 1/3

[amber sleet]

and you shouldn't really be getting hit much at all in full tank with reflect chance and +40 defense levels or whatever it is the pacts give

[long trail]

thats fair, when combined with thorns it could probably hold up ;3

[narrow epoch]

Also you can boost rune / ammo regen over 100%

[crystal forge]

Officially dry on a visage at kbd. Sad day

[long trail]

i still dont know if that makes it regen like twice the amount if ur at 200%

[amber sleet]

it does

[narrow epoch]

It does

[long trail]

W

[amber sleet]

100% chance for 1 rune, any past that is that amount of chance to roll a second

[verbal hatch]

Does anyone know if the Odd Old Man has been moved to a new location in Leagues since we cannot access Misthalin?

[amber sleet]

so 120% is 100% chance of 1 rune and 20% chance of a second rune

[long trail]

also wtf does the regen do on a corrupted bowfa?

[amber sleet]

for example

[long trail]

like im getting echoes but i dont think it's actually regenning anything?

[peak crypt]

Whats a go to mob to farm for mahogany planks?

[smoky raft]

Correct!

[long trail]

so i just spawn echoes cuz it wants to xD

thats nice

[smoky raft]

there's nothing to regen, but it's such an iconic item that you're pretty likely to get in the region, so they gave it regen rolls to make it not worthless

[long trail]

i do love me a 3 tick bowfa

[tawdry carbon]

bro so many of these tasks are such random shit

lmao

[amber sleet]

99 herblore at last

now i can make my regen pool that i will never use

[static arch]

Is there a Castle Wars leagues world?

[long trail]

do u have a relic to help with it? or ur just a beast

[amber sleet]

yeah i took the farming one

[long trail]

nature accord?

[amber sleet]

ye

[smoky raft]

that's kinda the point lmao

[long trail]

hell yeah i think im wanting to reload that

[amber sleet]

i just farmed torstol and jagerberries till i had like 5k of each

then made zammy brews

[tawdry carbon]

i have basically no crappy tasks done

i guess i should work on this 🤔

[smoky raft]

halfway through T8 with no area 3 is wild

[deep crag]

anyone got a good solve for smithing if you don't have hotfoot or butler

[amber sleet]

do u have larcenist?

[tawdry carbon]

i had larcenist with only karamja lol

[long trail]

tiranwn frem or desert can help u a lot i believe

[deep crag]

im buildin an alt's relic list but no im not goin larc

[amber sleet]

unforch

[silent garnet]

lucky impliing

[late helm]

Honestly you just have to suck it up - I did mixture of lamps and zalcano up to 70 for larcenist

[lone bloom]

obby maul during clone phase at moon is epic

[silent garnet]

trree gnome strong worl 707

[deep crag]

i wanna go kourend/asgarnia for my alt

[late helm]

You gotta pick a smithing region if you want a solve then

[tawdry carbon]

idk what to do for agility

[amber sleet]

you kind of just have to mine ore and then smelt+smith it then

[silent garnet]

lucky impling, tree gnome stronghold, world 707, by swamp toads

[amber sleet]

larcenist would've given you infinite ore very fast and then also singing tech

[tawdry carbon]

i have morytania do i just do sepulchre?

[long trail]

yes vc

[amber sleet]

i guess if u have some source of lots of gold u can buy ore from mor ul rek instead of stealing it

[tawdry carbon]

wat about farming? just do tree/fruit tree ad infinitum?

[amber sleet]

nvm he doesnt even stock ore past iron
wait yes he does

lol

[long trail]

yep

[late helm]

Still there?

[narrow epoch]

Okay, lol... the game decided I now get a bajillion tridents of the sea...

[deep crag]

im gonna try to make hespori bow work on my alt, im outta resets on my main so i don't get to try it and the build i got going rn will get me everything i need done on it

[amber sleet]

they must have changed his stock for leagues

mor ul rek guy sells all ores

so go make gold and buy from him if u can make a lot of gold as ur smithing solve

[silent garnet]

I didn't see it taken

[shrewd ermine]

how is this for a gauntlet specific build? would like to get those 2 extra pacts for an extra 75% accuracy bonus, but it is what it is for now

[deep crag]

the one in inferno area i think has stock when the one outside doesnt

[late helm]

Wait I think I’m there, I don’t see it 🙁

[silent garnet]

Does thorns apply to huntleif?

[shrewd ermine]

there isn't a shield in gauntlet no?

[long trail]

i have no idea if you'd like hally, i did 1 t powered staff build +100 % prayer pen but the build needed 18 points minimum

[silent garnet]

oh duh, yea

[shrewd ermine]

yeah currently im on 13 points. t1 power staff was my first instinct too though

[amber sleet]

ah i must've clicked on the wrong wiki page

[tawdry carbon]

why tf is this tree so stretched

[spring cipher]

tbh i recommend just unlocking regions/relics so u can get as many free pact points from regions as possible

[shrewd ermine]

i could do this too

[spring cipher]

that would make ur experience alot easier

[tawdry carbon]

this will work just fine. i think prayer pen is bait, you could have just played regular gauntlet with more dps lol

[shrewd ermine]

yeah ive just got a long way to go for that

[spring cipher]

rushing regions = more free pact points
rushing relics= more xp boosts and drop rates

[tawdry carbon]

that wouldnt wind up wasting a reset.. up to u tho. 1t staff + pen is the real cheese.

[spring cipher]

and it kinda snowballs from there

[amber sleet]

if u only have pacts for 1 style i'm like 99% sure 75% prayer pen is way better than swapping styles

[long trail]

this is the 18 pointer build for 100% pray pen, could try 75% tho and see if u find it enjoyable enough

https://tools.runescape.wiki/demonic-pacts/?n=1-100-101-133-134-135-136-44-46-56-60-69-92-93-94-96-97-99

[tawdry carbon]

13 pts gets you faster bow+staff tho.

[lone bloom]

why do wildy deaths make all my food go on the ground

the setting is turned off

[tawdry carbon]

this is what i used

[amber sleet]

yeah but that's taking a whole pact build just for cg

[tawdry carbon]

its up to pref

[tawdry carbon]

you get bowfa for outside of cg and its 1t faster

[shrewd ermine]

true, prayer pen is a little lazy

[tawdry carbon]

imo go prayer pen if youre rly not comfortable doing gaunt

cuz u need to do achieves + echo hulef becomes afk <1min

[peak crypt]

I want a build that can have prayer pen and heals. Any recommendations?

[amber sleet]

you can reach prayer nodes as a specific build pretty easily without much loss at least as blindbag and it doesn't require ever respeccing

as halberd blindbag there isn't really even anything else to take for the last like 8 nodes

i'm just taking prayer pen and + defense

[long trail]

i did, to farm 150 cg in one day ;3

then respecc next day

[lone bloom]

people keep pking me in wildy i cant do any tasks here

[shrewd ermine]

why the right side and not the left (overheal)?

[long trail]

we dont heal 👍

[tawdry carbon]

the fight doesnt last long enough to overheal anyway

[long trail]

it also wouldn't matter which route im pretty sure

[tawdry carbon]

you do if u get this

but its not necessary

[amber sleet]

i would assume getting rune recovery is more important for 1t staff to tick eat infinitely

[shrewd ermine]

well i was thinking overheal would be more versatile was all

[long trail]

then you have to take that xD

do you have eternal sustenance or nah

[shrewd ermine]

it's powered staff though there aren't runes unless im just really mistaken

[amber sleet]

there are nodes that make powered staves recharge 1 rune of each type

[shrewd ermine]

nope. i could reload into it but i think an RC solve (soul) is btter

[next dust]

lol so i got my "kill 50 superior slayer creatures" task

and already have 4 imbued hearts

[shrewd ermine]

do we need to recharge staves in the gauntlet?

[tawdry carbon]

no

it has infinite charges but

it counts for charge pacts

[shrewd ermine]

I see, so it just doesnt matter then

[long trail]

valid enough
i honestly dont think u need any sustain in cg with a 1t staff 100 pray pen build, bro only gets to do 2 tornado phases at most and otherwise its just praying right and moving

[tawdry carbon]

if u go staff+prayer pen, you literally dont need any food or prayer potions.

or armor

you build the t3 staff and run in

then in cg you are pre-geared

err echo cg*

[shrewd ermine]

I see, neat

[amber sleet]

i hate that as blindbag they didn't give a second halberd at least for us to proc with in echo cg

gotta waste time grabbing the pickaxe every time

for a tiny proc

[shrewd ermine]

sadly I dont have much for magic gear yet. only have tiran and kandarin

not sure what my best bet is

[tawdry carbon]

? tiran and kandarin both have magic gear

[long trail]

yeah

kandarin give occult

[shrewd ermine]

good magic gear? tiran has crystal armour + blessing. kandarin has occult but idk what robes

[long trail]

tiranwnn give crys armour + blessing for 15 dmg 30 acc

[tawdry carbon]

the armor+blessing is good lol

[shrewd ermine]

to get the crystal blessing I need to fight the echo gauntlet though

[long trail]

crys armor is better than any robes lol

[tawdry carbon]

yea and echo gauntlet is free

[shrewd ermine]

i see

[long trail]

yes

[tawdry carbon]

gauntlet is free even if you have no pact at all

gauntlet is a very easy minigame

[shrewd ermine]

[tawdry carbon]

fi you have pacts, you just ignore every mechanic

[amber sleet]

blindbag build in echo cg is basically like having no pacts

[fickle thistle]

I don’t understand Zulrah dude. Either it kills me in 40 seconds or I kill it. Is that attack delay on the form change normal?

[tawdry carbon]

The blue zulrah can either ranged or mage.
so he can stack you out with snakelings.

yes, the attack delay is really fucking annoying. spam click it or wait till he bobs his dead for some tick dps loss

[peak crypt]

I feel like I should respec into full prayer pen when I unlock tirannwn. And maybe farm out zenytes too before I respec again

[tawdry carbon]

yes if u have kandarin and have skill issue for gaunt

[fickle thistle]

As melee should I prioritize the snakes

[next dust]

OFF TOPIC so i was looking to book a barista course for the fun of it. and i seen this. any tips on how i can make this? it's kindof on an awkwward date

[amber sleet]

put on a recoil

[tawdry carbon]

no. you must wear a ring of recoil or suffering and they will kill themselves.

[fickle thistle]

I see

[winged trench]

Do I need chewed bones for any task if I got the dragon full helm as a drop?

[peak crypt]

The hells that doing in a runescape leagues discord lol

homie needs some friends

[spring cipher]

wow this is a cute comic

[amber sleet]

guys i have fishing cooking and agi left before i need to bust my balls on the no soul relic no zeah rc grind

which do i do next

[tawdry carbon]

where is the meat pie one

[spring cipher]

god the meatpie one is evil

[tawdry carbon]

we dont know what yama was really planning with the dogs

https://giphy.com/gifs/ramirez-cara-cat-FURSZmCQAYe8d3EZPs

is there an easy way to get bulk coconuts or pineapples or papaya

other than zulrah for coconuts

[amber sleet]

you can buy pineapples no?

[tawdry carbon]

where

[amber sleet]

charter traders

i think

[tawdry carbon]

son of a bitch you can

yeah

fuck

[modern ginkgo]

Heya guys can I get some advise please? I went full thorns build and I've only got 16 pact points, started Asgarnia and then Mortyania, I'll probably finish off with Kourend or Kandarin, should I use my reset to go full water mage first and then build into thorns rather than being full thorns trying to build into water mage? I want to go bossing and get good gear