leagues-general

[pale moon]

I don't want to use a shield, the plan is to use the offhand from thermy echo

[timber quest]

Yee that thing slaps, especially with your dogger

[vapid silo]

tbh I think the build ur going for is more or less complete

item-wise, in those regions

that u got

from Mory you can get Rancour amulet for melee strength, in Zeah you can get BIS gloves

[real thicket]

for dagger/fire build are you using elite void?

or what armor?

[pale moon]

Yeah it mostly feels pretty complete I just wasn't sure if there's something i'm missing in other regions because I don't play OS. I do like the tank armor idea though

[real thicket]

crystal could be pretty good for it

with blessing

[pale moon]

currently i'm wearing regular void armor

[open steeple]

is anyone up to do a game of trouble brewing?

[keen crane]

Hey guys what perks did you all pick in leagues? I chose abundance and hotfoot it's a game changer

[dusty wing]

Endless harvest for me

30min afk is too good

[keen crane]

What's that do?

[real thicket]

barb gathering, friendly forager, evil eye, transmute, larcenist, culling spree, reloaded for grimoire, minion
the grimoire was greedy, I should have done nature's accord or soul harvest, but I took the most fun option

[paper hull]

What do i pair with thorns early on then?

[vapid silo]

EH, HF, Map, BB, Larc, Culling, Reload soul harvest, Flask

[dusty wing]

makes it so you gather stuff endlessly and it sends the materials to the bank

[real thicket]

thorns and water magic is fine for awhile

[dusty wing]

endlessly as in until you get kicked out for being afk

[real thicket]

or thorns power staff

[keen crane]

Oo I see I was thinking about getting the briefcase bank teleport one so bad but picked the agility shortcut map

[cursive glacier]

One thing to consider is the possibility of respeccing into a different build later an picking regions that allow for that. I will be trying thorns build but with oathplate instead of justi, but thats good enough for me

[keen crane]

I'm like 3 tasks away from unlocking Karamja iirc

[dusty wing]

Yeah i have that as well. Worked really well for me so far, except kind of mid in wilderness

[pale moon]

Abundance seems really good, I didn't account for how useful gold would have been in the early game (at least, until I got transmute and have however much money I need/want now)

I picked Endless Harvest, Friendly Forager, Evil Eye, Transmute, Nature's Accord, Culling Spree, Reloaded into Larcenist, and then i'm not sure on what i'll pick at tier 8 - though I don't think I care about minion.

[keen crane]

Should still work

[dusty wing]

it does yeah, just not that many shortcuts out there

[keen crane]

Oh yeah the money gain I forgot about that too

Yeah I can buy out like all the death runes I need I got over 1m

[vapid silo]

both friendly forager and nature's accord, you must REALLY hate herblore

[next dust]

getting some Done

[keen crane]

What happens if I open a clue scroll while locked in valamore

[next dust]

its meta

[keen crane]

Like I'll have to be super lucky to complete it right

[real thicket]

do the league servers feel unreasonably laggy for anyone else?

[next dust]

to do clue scrolls before you unlock karamja

[dusty wing]

my full list is (with Kandarin, Tirannwn, Wilderness):

• Endless Harvest
• Woodsman
• Map of Alacrity
• Transmute
• Larcenist
• Culling Spree
• Reloaded into Butler's Bell
• Minion

[vapid silo]

you can only get steps in regions u have unlocked

[real thicket]

it says 58 latency, but I swear it feels like 300 at times

[keen crane]

Oh really

[vapid silo]

so in some ways it's beneficial to do clues with less areas

[keen crane]

Also does my home teleport change when I unlock a new region or nah

[vapid silo]

no but you can also teleport to those via the Areas menu

[opaque sinew]

is a mage thorns build still doable with wildy, asgarnia and kandarin?

[dusty wing]

you can teleport in the league zone menu

yes

[real thicket]

yes

[dusty wing]

you dont even need that crazy of tank gear for thorns to be alright

it does help though ofc

[pale moon]

i'm ngl, I come from RS3 and I expected there to be far more useful potions. If i'd known that I really only care about prayer pots / super restores and super combat potions, I might not have picked one or the other of them. In RS3 having 100% chance to save secondaries (with the mixology goggles) would have been insane for making some of the really high level potions

[opaque sinew]

i just wanna clear inferno and collo

[dusty wing]

yeah you can do it for sure

[opaque sinew]

do you need tank gear?

[real thicket]

did rs3 ever do something like group ironman?

[pale moon]

Nature's accord for the teleport item is really good though. And I didn't feel like I was missing out on soul harvest for prayer or runecrafting because transmute makes both of those relatively trivial.

[opaque sinew]

i could get bandos pretty quick

[pale moon]

Yeah they put out GIM a couple years ago

[real thicket]

sweet, ty

[dusty wing]

I mean depends. I used tank gear for collo, inferno i didnt need it

[pale moon]

it was actually kinda cracked being able to trade augmented items

[dusty wing]

used shadowflame staff on both

and was almost afk

with water mage branch

and thorns

[opaque sinew]

i still have 4 resets so i just wanna clear colloseum and inferno, any maybe grind out the boots from doom

i'll try and figure out what i need, just wasnt sure if it was viable or not

[dusty wing]

if u have overheal pacts and water rune regen its definitely viable

[real thicket]

160 defence dinh's bulwark thorns build, afk the colosseum

16 minutes for manticore to kill you

[opaque sinew]

dont have kourend

[real thicket]

sad

[hollow eagle]

bro where are my confliction gaunts bro, 122 deeps 💀

[opaque sinew]

i didnt wanna raid or do guantlet so i took litterally everything else

[dusty wing]

I like how manticores just nuke themselves with mantimayhem in 2 attacks

maybe even 1 if you dont pray im not sure

[real thicket]

I take that everytime

funny

[hollow eagle]

i just wanna play the game and not do mohka in leagues

[next dust]

if 0°C - 0°C is 0°C,

does that mean that 32° F - 32° F is 32° F?

[real thicket]

yes

[dusty wing]

I mean no one is forcing you, especially since we got extra pact points now

[hollow eagle]

i still need my confliction gauntlets, it's not for pacts

[dusty wing]

oh i thought u were talking about avernics im blind

[hollow eagle]

no i've actually gotten 2 treads and 2 ayaks

i literally just need the confliction and im out

[dusty wing]

i could use conflictions as well

but kinda cba to farm doom

i dont necessarily need them atp

[pale moon]

is there any chance there's a way to hide or replace araxxor's model 😅

[real thicket]

with a bigger spider?

[dusty wing]

Some plugin exists for that I'm sure, setting in entity hider maybe?

[pale moon]

dear god no lol

[next dust]

if you close your eyes you wont see it

[pale moon]

you have a point

[hollow eagle]

taking blind araxxor to a new level

[misty sigil]

Can you get combat achievement rewards in leagues?

[elder crater]

How big is the range on the additional target end node for thrownweapons?

[hollow eagle]

yea

[dusty wing]

or just set it to highlight the hull and make it fill in with solid color lol

[next dust]

asgarnia?

[timber quest]

Ye speak to the sage

[pale moon]

oh good idea ill try that with some other npc and see how that works out

thanks

[austere mirage]

my herbalore is 67

hehehe

[real thicket]

I can't wait to wake up tomorrow and read the jagex news post about investigating the drops at hydra not working

[dusty wing]

I swear Ive heard someone say every boss is bugged at this point lmao

[real thicket]

yes, but mine is actually broken

for sure

100%

[dusty wing]

is it?

[real thicket]

guaranteed

[crystal kelp]

Show log

[dusty wing]

how guaranteed? you just didnt get your drop or do you know other people havent gotten in as well? lol

[hollow eagle]

yeah mines broken too, only drops tails and hydra gloves

[real thicket]

I can't upload images yet

[hollow eagle]

3 gloves 3 tails 💀

[crystal kelp]

How much KC?

[real thicket]

I'm about to go get my 5th 200 hydra task

for a 1/200 drop

[hollow eagle]

cinema

[crystal kelp]

Rip

But not unheard of

[hollow eagle]

woke up on the wrong side of the bell curve

[real thicket]

I'm telling myself I'm here for the pet to feel better

lmao

[crystal kelp]

I went 4x dry for black mask

[hollow eagle]

i got that 63 kc after my 3rd tail

xd

[dusty wing]

thats like 0.5% chance to go 5x dry or something

[crystal kelp]

But honestly, given this leagues, might actually be broken

[dusty wing]

not that unheard of tbh

but very unfortunate

regardless if its broken or not

not very fun

lmao

[hollow eagle]

man, am i better off just doing 20 deeps in a row for these gauntlets or should i just do 1-9s

like atp idk anymore man

[proper stream]

guys I'm water mage, any guidance on entry gear to get kbd echo? I have basically nothing yet but I've unlocked wildy

[dusty wing]

gear no, but invest into water and overheal pacts

[real thicket]

chaos elders give elder chaos robes, they're good

or get larran's keys from wildy slayer to get dagon'hai stuff

elder chaos robe drop rate is kind of crap, so I'd probably just start on slayer

[dusty wing]

although I do remember trying echo kbd with my shitty early build as well and it wasnt great with the adds

[proper stream]

I think I'm two points away from the main water node/ability

[real thicket]

echo kbd is pretty easy tho, you could honestly do it naked

just get some antipoison

[dusty wing]

yeah but its gonna take forever

[real thicket]

yeah

[timber quest]

I overestimated how much I enjoy bone shard mining

[proper stream]

ah okay that's good news. I'm already doing wildy slayer so i'll try my luck with the dagonhai but eventually just send an attempt

[real thicket]

I did what you did, same build

I started slayer, went to reventants/jellies, got accursed scepter eventually, got dagon'hai, went to echo kbd

[proper stream]

did you respec into xbow after kbd or just grinded out the xbow path afterwards?

[real thicket]

and it was like fighting a giant sandcrab at that point

I respec'd xbow, but it was kind of ass

it takes about 28 ish pact points for king's barrage to feel great

it's ok before that, but not amazing

[dusty wing]

Is there any way to check my total echo boss kc somehow?

[proper stream]

damn. okay

[dusty wing]

I see i need 150 for a task but no clue where I'm at between 75-150

[real thicket]

by then I unlocked priff, so I went powered staff cg/echo hun build, then after I got 32 pact points, I went back to king's barrage

[timber quest]

Ye in the summary bit

[dusty wing]

oh thanks

damn good i checked

[real thicket]

I'd honestly just bank the king's barrage until you have dragon bolts

[dusty wing]

only need 4 more lol

[timber quest]

Noiceee

[real thicket]

and by then you probably have enough pact points for it

but for sure, give it a go

it's so good

all those blind bag melee builds are ass compared to king's barrage

[dusty wing]

Do bonkers not even compete?

[proper stream]

what revs did you target?

[real thicket]

for reference, I just did inferno about an hour ago and when it spawned jad during the zuk fight, I one shot jad

38k ranged xp drop

dragons

revs are all pretty ez

[proper stream]

👍

[real thicket]

but yeah, def keep king's barrage in mind for later and full send it

[shrewd ermine]

how does this task work? i've crafted it, but nothing changed

[thorn siren]

is it just me or is blind bag complete dog shit

[hollow eagle]

blind bag pops off!
if you have 4 scythes with kits

[real thicket]

you need to jump through a bunch of hoops to set it up properly, and it takes good equipment to feel decent

and the pact tree is very demanding, like the ranged echos part of the tree

[dusty wing]

dual weapons are better than scythes even im 90% sure

[thorn siren]

i have 5 goddsword. still sucks

[dusty wing]

all the bonkers

[real thicket]

but it can be decent after you do the 12 step program

5 godswords isn't really how you do it

[hollow eagle]

blindbag really is the potential man of pacts

[inner zenith]

just so im understanding, i need a 100 and a 75 dh axe for them both to be used in blindbag

[real thicket]

do you have the ranged echos?

[next dust]

nice hard casket

[real thicket]

and do you understand how echoes work with boppers like the varlamore weapons?

[desert python]

700 hydra no lance

[real thicket]

my brother

[thorn siren]

same

its not a real thying

[real thicket]

I too and am over 700 hydra no lance

[desert python]

i think they forgot to make it a 1/200

[real thicket]

I don't know anyone that got the lance without going super dry

[dusty wing]

that would be kinda funny

[real thicket]

I was talking to random ppl outside hydra room earlier

[thorn siren]

no. i tried respecing to thorns blind bag one handed weapons. but it might only be good if i can get a halberd with the ranged echos pacts

[real thicket]

they're all over 400 kc no lance

[real thicket]

ok, so I'll break it down a bit

[thorn siren]

sucks cause all my regions i went were spefically for thorns buiuld. but thorns is dogshit

[real thicket]

blind bag damage requires 5 unique melee weapons.... but you can have more, it will roll them.

[thorn siren]

it might be good if i could solo tob, but u cant with thorns build cause it sucks

[real thicket]

there is also the node that 2 handed melee hits trigger ranged echos as if you have all 3 ranged weapons equipped

which means you can take all 3 ranged echo nodes

so you get never miss, max hit, and + echo chance

[cloud panther]

my water/thorns build is great

[real thicket]

boppers hit multiple times and the multiple hits can each trigger a ranged echo

HOWEVER, the ranged echoes are the sum of the two hits

so, 20+18 hit = 2 chances at 38 damage echo

[timber quest]

This was addressed and it's working the better way

2 secs I'll find the husky wall

[real thicket]

blind bag builds grab 5 unique weapons for the damage, and then ran like 5-8 bopperss in their inventory

[thorn siren]

so basically this mogs noxious halberd?

[real thicket]

oh ok, good

[real thicket]

yes

so bb = 5 unique weapons and 5 to 8 boppers, and like 8 pact points in random ranged echo shit, then it feels good

[keen crane]

What does mogging mean in this context

[dusty wing]

you can probably still use hally and boppers in inv if u want the range maybe

[thorn siren]

does better than ?

lol

the literal defintion of mog

[dusty wing]

i dont think mog has any literal definition

[real thicket]

yeah, I honestly think the halberd bb stuff is a meme

it's like a vanilla + build

and it's cute

but like

King's Barrage

go pew pew

[dusty wing]

its just gambling the build

it sucks until you get 5000 hitsplats and then its awesome

lol

for a moment

[real thicket]

yeah

that's how I feel about king's barrage

sometimes I hit for 100

sometimes I hit for 800

[hollow eagle]

here's a definition of mogged, 330 total delves, 136 deep no confliction

[timber quest]

Sounds like a tbow

[hollow eagle]

fuck m,e

[real thicket]

it's 50/50

[timber quest]

0 0 0 0 74 0 0 0

[cloud panther]

woo 1 more tree run and I should be at 35mil farming xp

[thorn siren]

idk tho. my regions are only asgarnia, morytania and kourend. so i cant really do much other builds. i think im stuck with some sort of blind bag thing maybe. the asgarnia pick is a meme

[real thicket]

yeah those are all pretty melee centric

[timber quest]

Garg staff and full ancs could go brr

[real thicket]

you can do the thorns crossbow build too

it's good

[hollow eagle]

asgarnia alone is a ranged area if you just grab zaryte

[keen crane]

Does it mog over valamore?

[real thicket]

you have the regions for it

[vapid silo]

I would have really liked for blindbag to be the best DPS option IF you manage to get the 5 god-tier weapons in invy. but as is it just seems like a lot of effort for not that much value

[mossy pond]

quiver charges don't regenerate?

[real thicket]

you can also do 160 defence thorns tank + throwing weapons build too

also have the regions for it

[thorn siren]

i mean idk. i might go for the infernal boppers thing. cause i think i kill amoxliatl in 10 seconds

so i shoudl be able to get it in like 5 min

[pale moon]

do i have to be on task to get a black mask drop

[thorn siren]

but maybe i respec into cbow thorns once im strong enough to solo tob and nex

[vapid silo]

no

[hollow eagle]

good thing the infernal boppers are complete shit for a weapon you have to farm a boss for

lmao

[thorn siren]

well the point is to be stronger than my >1kg cerb weapon thorns build

[hollow eagle]

infernal boppers only use is mohka if you dont have prayer pen

[thorn siren]

thorns is just ass

[hollow eagle]

beep beep wrong

[thorn siren]

thorns is useful but useless outside of the main game

[real thicket]

thorns is kind of an all or nothing thing

[thorn siren]

going to any raid its useless

[vapid silo]

can I skip infernal boppers for doom if I have pray pen?

[real thicket]

and you didn't take kandarin for ring of suffering

[hollow eagle]

i fuck up vasa

[real thicket]

which helps

[hollow eagle]

he steps on me, i delete him

[thorn siren]

what is vasa

[hollow eagle]

💀

[real thicket]

and no dinh's bulwark for gg thorns

[hollow eagle]

[vasa]

[next dust]

amazing

[hollow eagle]

whats the command for it

[next dust]

thanks slayer relic

[chilly pine]

2 brackets on each side

[hollow eagle]

[vasa nistirio]

[[vasa nistirio]}

FUCK

[fickle thistle]

I gave myself 200 more Araxxor after I just did 100 Araxxor

[thorn siren]

i want to get dinhs but i cant. because throns build cant solo olm. like its actually not possible. i guess i should just respec to my one handed staff build. but idk, it just sucked

[hollow eagle]

[[vasa nistirio]]

[obsidian bluff]

Wiki links found:
https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Vasa_Nistirio

[real thicket]

shit ass rock in chambers of xeric

[thorn siren]

oh yea

[fickle thistle]

I’m very upset. One piece.. raxxy baby please one halberd piece.

[thorn siren]

but thats irreleant

now try to kill olm

[hollow eagle]

thorns is extremely good to get to olm

[thorn siren]

i can get to olm in 5 minutes solo

[hollow eagle]

in cm?

[thorn siren]

but once u are at olm. itll take 1 hr to kill

no in normal

[hollow eagle]

we only run cms here baby

its leagues, shits free

[thorn siren]

well then itll take 10 hrs

[hollow eagle]

but yea thorns is good to get you to olm but you need something to get you thru olm

so like for me right now, im on water mage + thorns

[thorn siren]

i was doing one handed staff lithic sceptre thorns

but no mage tank gear

so

[hollow eagle]

wym mage tank gear

[real thicket]

just wear regular tank gear

[hollow eagle]

just wear bandos lmao

[real thicket]

that's why they go powered staff

to take extra accuracy nodes

to offset tank gear

powered staff is cheap pact point investment

[thorn siren]

yea but then u hit like 5 dmg max hit

just shit

[hollow eagle]

??

powered staff damage is based off level

[dusty wing]

its better dps

but worse healing

[real thicket]

you still hit like 30+ and it's 1 tick

it's fine

it's not amazing but it's better dps than most builds on live

[thorn siren]

ive only hit single digits

[hollow eagle]

yeah im still too new, can't post images yet

i'd show you what im rocking lmao

[thorn siren]

even using imbued heart. couldnt hit over 1 digit

[dusty wing]

what kinda powered staff are u using lol

[thorn siren]

lithic

[hollow eagle]

are you level 70 magic

[thorn siren]

99

well 99+ imbued heart

[real thicket]

I was powered staff during cg using trident of the swamp in crystal gear, was hitting 58s

surely your build can hit for 9

[thorn siren]

yea it was hitting for 9s

like max hit

[hollow eagle]

on olm?

[real thicket]

must be something weird going on

[thorn siren]

no on everything

[cloud panther]

woot

[hollow eagle]

wtf were you doing

[dusty wing]

yeah that doesnt seem right

[real thicket]

maybe lithic just sucks

[cloud panther]

wooo 50mil prayer exp

[hollow eagle]

like no matter what

lithic should be doing 20s max hit

at 90s

[thorn siren]

idk why u would charge a echo weapon with body runes. like wtf

just shit weapon

[dusty wing]

wiki says base max hit is 23 at 99 magic

[cloud panther]

so you can body your opponents obv

[weary shadow]

Do you have the accuracy talents?

[real thicket]

23 at 99 is shit

[dusty wing]

should be over single digit even wit the pact

[real thicket]

god damn

and it's -8 cause it's one handed ?

so yeah that weapon is ass

[thorn siren]

yea its terrible

[hollow eagle]

also some echo weapons

are dogshit, just wanna say that

[thorn siren]

all the echo weapons are dog

[hollow eagle]

ehhh

[thorn siren]

this leagues is trash

[next dust]

spoon

[hollow eagle]

thermy echo is probably strongest staff in the game

LMAO

[real thicket]

they're all trash but king's barrage

[thorn siren]

there are like 10 builds. and only 2 of them are good

[dusty wing]

thermy is literally carrying me through all the content

idk about trash

[hollow eagle]

i'd say thermy staff is close to harmonized

maybe better

[thorn siren]

everything else barely does more than reg game

[real thicket]

thermy is fine, but it's like a vanilla+ weapon

[cloud panther]

it's way better

[weary shadow]

Is there a good build to just cheese thermy ?

[hollow eagle]

have minion

[weary shadow]

Or just get good?

[hollow eagle]

thats it

[weary shadow]

I have flask 🙁

[hollow eagle]

lmao

[dusty wing]

if u have healing you can just not pray switch the second phase

thats about it

[hollow eagle]

my cheats to thermy were, 1. being sustenance

2. minion

[weary shadow]

Also there is no way to hotkey prayers right?

[dusty wing]

i did it with my stinky mystic water staff

[hollow eagle]

only to the ui

[pale moon]

are you more likely to get barrows armor if you kill all of them or can i just kill 1 repeatedly

[hollow eagle]

ok back to my personal hell of mohka

[real thicket]

you get more rolls if you kill them all

[weary shadow]

Cool just making sure, I prefer hotkeys, so it's weird having to look at the ui mid combat

[hollow eagle]

dude i fucking hate mohka

[real thicket]

but you can get all their gear

[tacit oyster]

i really think there are some issues with drop rates multipliers... im under 50% purple rate in solo 700 invo toa

[cloud panther]

get the thermy staff and you can outheal the first phase while standing still just being on prayer. In p2 you can just stay one prayer and easily outheal as long as you move to the circles

[real thicket]

I used to just kill 3, idk if that's meta or not

[dusty wing]

did you just say get the thermy staff to farm thermy? lol

[thorn siren]

yea idk what to respec into. cause this blindbag thorns build is just ass. blind bag is just shit without the ranged echo stuff i guess

[weary shadow]

I want the thermy staff, but need to kill for it lol

[hollow eagle]

if this were main game i'd have made a fortune alr

2 ayaks 2 treads before one conflict

[dusty wing]

i have like 5 bil in thieving loot..

[real thicket]

fire dagger?

[weary shadow]

Mindlessly crafting 4k dragon gems

[thorn siren]

is that the cerb one

[cloud panther]

woot just got the RC pet

[real thicket]

yeah, it's good

probably top 3 echo weapons

[thorn siren]

cause thats my build i went before but with thorns

[dusty wing]

the dogger

[thorn siren]

thorns dagger

[hollow eagle]

yo rip the dogsword

[weary shadow]

Cerb I need to give another try with, but those ghost are annoying

[hollow eagle]

my goat..

[real thicket]

thorns is bait

[hollow eagle]

sorry it trivializes too much

[thorn siren]

just eat through it

[real thicket]

did u take fire spell nodes?

[thorn siren]

no

[real thicket]

they work with dagger

and you can spec spam

[thorn siren]

wait they do

wtf

[real thicket]

that's the build

yeah

it's a fire spell

[weary shadow]

What's the best food (if you didnt' get endless food) for it

[real thicket]

bro

[dusty wing]

yeah thats the point of the dogger

[thorn siren]

oh and do u go the spec shit

spec energy thing

[real thicket]

yeah

fire spell + dagger, 1 handed fast nodes, spec spam shit

[thorn siren]

hmm

[real thicket]

you can take thorns too if you have the points

[thorn siren]

but thorns isnt really bait for everything else besides bossing

[real thicket]

but like the fire stuff more important than scuffed thorns

[thorn siren]

yea i guess thats true, i can go light thorns

[real thicket]

they're great for healing a bit tho

[thorn siren]

just reflecting 23 dmg everytime they hit is crazy

[hollow eagle]

thorns healing is bait

[thorn siren]

yea the healing is meme

but the prayer restore is not

i dont even bring ppots anywher

[hollow eagle]

what the 2+2 whenever you get hit 0?

[weary shadow]

Easiest afking of my life

[thorn siren]

yea

[hollow eagle]

i skipped that

[real thicket]

he's going 1 handed melee anyway so he gets healing from attacking

it's double dipping

[hollow eagle]

cause its waste for water mage xd

[dusty wing]

i dont think ive used a single pray pot or food item since i got my water thorns build setup

[real thicket]

thorns on water mage at all is bait

[hollow eagle]

L take

[real thicket]

big scary 9 damage thorns

[hollow eagle]

why do you think im wearing mage armor?

[cobalt skiff]

any tips on a good smithing training method? im level 55, and i have morytania and asgarnia unlocked

[hollow eagle]

im in full tank lmao

[thorn siren]

theres nothing quite like going full thorns and literally autoretal off and u just sit in an area where mobs aggro on u multi combat. and u literally do slayer tasks of 150+ monsters in like 5 min

[real thicket]

then you're just running a scuffed version of faux's build

wym

[hollow eagle]

thats wild cause i didnt look it up at all

[real thicket]

either go full water mage or go thorns

[hollow eagle]

lmao

[real thicket]

full water/air mage is hardcore

thorns is cope

[thorn siren]

thorns is op for early game

[hollow eagle]

crazy to think that there are multiple ways to build ur shit

[cobalt skiff]

@real thicket how about people play what they find fun and don't follow a meta in a fking for fun gamemode lol

[chilly pine]

what are your relics

[thorn siren]

i think its a respec angle build

[dusty wing]

faux is literally doing a water thorns build on the alt lol

[hollow eagle]

like deadass i've looked up zero guides this leagues

[real thicket]

yeah, he is

[cobalt skiff]

endless harvest, friendly forager, evil eye, transmute, larcenist, eternal sustenance, culling spree

[hollow eagle]

and im just vibing thru my builds and water thorns is actually the most broken shit

for like 90% of content

[real thicket]

you missed context bro

[hollow eagle]

it's incredibly good at what it does good

[weary shadow]

Does the Warped Staff work better than the Kraken (basic) one

[hollow eagle]

and incredibly ass at stuff it's bad at

[mossy pond]

what's it bad at?

[bronze tangle]

Am I right in thinking that karambwans are locked behind kandarin? Need toad legs to make agility potion?

[hollow eagle]

nex

[chilly pine]

get 75 slayer for gargoyles and get fed bars

[hollow eagle]

it's horrible at it with no confliction

[next dust]

screw you game

[thorn siren]

how many max demonic pacts are there

[next dust]

321 kc for mithril boots

[real thicket]

you can get it from mixology minigame

[thorn siren]

hype

[bronze tangle]

oh intersting, I've not done mixology before

here we go then

[tacit oyster]

44 point tasks, can use max 40 points

[thorn siren]

u should have done chilled jellies in varlamore

[real thicket]

adept potion pack iirc

[thorn siren]

holy shit. i only have 24 and i feel full on nodes already wtf

another 16 is insane

u can go like 3 different builds

[hollow eagle]

like everything i've done outside of water and throns

is just defense, recharge and accuracy

[potent quail]

Tribrid is doable

What most people do though is 2 styles woth synergie and rest into accuracy/regen/urility nodes

[dusty wing]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1408576100992286770/1498252165653987378/image.png?ex=69f07b90&is=69ef2a10&hm=c0eca903bf7be3d88b8078e7abc4aa53723f1dae3a4c188244b5cb1bf26358c4&

breezing thorugh everythign with this

in my regions at least

[real thicket]

there is some really cool opportunities for weapons like the atlatl and hybrid builds

[hollow eagle]

that is effectively my build i'm just missing the healing and pen

2+2*

[weary shadow]

What gear?

[real thicket]

atlatl is both bow and thrown weapon for pacts, so you can get the str = ranged strength nodes and wear full melee gear cause of the +60 accuracy thrown node

super cool weapon

[hollow eagle]

wrath talisman

[thorn siren]

@real thicket this is probably the optimal fire spell path i assume, then i can still do lithic or whatever dog shit one handed staves for mage swaps

[dusty wing]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1408576100992286770/1498267526780686366/image.png?ex=69f089de&is=69ef385e&hm=739dec611b7311e55b7cfe03b55af78a864159737deaa441f05fb920b19298a4&

or tank gear for thorns

/ trident of the swamps if need be for some reason

[open steeple]

are there any groups running chambers?

[hollow eagle]

why are you avoiding recharge

[potent quail]

Iyeah not seeing many thrown builds though

[real thicket]

if you want to mage swap, but it's not important cause you already do 2 damage typess and can get prayer pen later if you want

[potent quail]

This seems to be the build of the league

Water instead of a mellee dip gives just way more suustain amd thanks to the accuracy buffs mage now always hits

[thorn siren]

cause my build is fire spell dagger

[real thicket]

but that's a good path, gets you close to the 50% accuracy nodes too

[weary shadow]

Ah man I wanted to go crystal, but I went desert last as I wanted to try the raid out this time.

[chilly pine]

try the leagues discord server , invite code: vbhPUHU

[velvet saffron]

killed my fourth echo boss and did not recieve my pact reset 🙁

[dusty wing]

it definitely misses at some places, but being able to afk shit (especially with minion) balances it out imo

[potent quail]

You could move the 3 defense points to get the „max accuracy“ node in the range tree

[thorn siren]

wdym mage swap? this shoudl be good for the dagger right? i mean what else would i go to improve fire spells lol

[blissful stump]

I'm having a bug where I dont get bosses as an option with culling spree, does anyone have any ideas?

[next dust]

hold on

[dusty wing]

ye true i was thinking about that, but ive noticed all the stuff i miss on is up in my face

[manic prairie]

can you cheese doom or do you actually have to fight them?

[next dust]

whyy do king sand crabs drop bones?

theyre a crab?

?

[manic prairie]

crab bone

[next dust]

exo skeleton?

[manic prairie]

crab bone

[hollow eagle]

5%>0

[dusty wing]

defence makes me thorny too

so depends what u want

(what a sentence)

[loud beacon]

why does wrath altar only give 32k exp drop but ourania altar gives 62k wtf

[potent quail]

Also the order is interesting, what does it look like at 25 points?

[hollow eagle]

what regions are you to need 100% pray pen

[potent quail]

Defence make you reflect
No effect on thorns

[tacit oyster]

i swear if i also get white chest from running toa 800 which would be 21-22% purple chance before drop rate multiplier

[dusty wing]

didnt need it, but used it for easy demonics and echo cg

[hollow eagle]

like ill probably just run 75% ppen

[manic prairie]

does the gargalon staff go 1 tick?

[hollow eagle]

100% is overkill for me with dgs

[thorn siren]

@real thicket actually where do u even see fang of the hound fire spell builds?

[vapid silo]

yes

[chilly pine]

ourania altar gets a 1.7x exp boost compared to normal runecrafting

[dusty wing]

yeah i can just not pray and get hit

idk its just more comfy that way

[potent quail]

Like yeah if you find a good use for the last point

[dusty wing]

i dont have much pvm left to do anyway

[manic prairie]

is it good for water mage cheese? or should i try for a different one?

[real thicket]

I dm'd you

I can't upload ss in this discord yet

[manic prairie]

my options would be tob or regular trident

[loud beacon]

but ive seen people using soul shards on blood runes and getting 95k drops

[hollow eagle]

soul altar is 118k/250

[loud beacon]

no access

[hollow eagle]

just remember, zeah blood is more exp than mory blood

by a significant amount

[vapid silo]

think it's a good option for thorns build as u can camp justi or w/e and still hit with the specs, and use the 1t for healing via water rune regen (I am assuming something like that is the Faux build)

[manic prairie]

i mainly want to cheese my way to 40 points somehow

im at 23

what i have

https://tools.runescape.wiki/demonic-pacts/?n=1-112-113-114-133-135-136-139-140-141-145-44-46-53-56-59-60-68-71-81-84-92-95 what i might try

[upper ledge]

Hey. Im using a thorns + power staff build. How do people survive the lizard shamans? i need to kill 150

[manic prairie]

are all smoke devils task only?

[tacit oyster]

yes, can kill one thermy without task though

[tacit oyster]

if you get the shayzien armor (5) you take 0 damage from the acid splash

[manic prairie]

i dont have the real level for smoke devils, but i coulda killed them with the +10

i wanted for the occult task

but i cant get task with the fake level

[upper ledge]

thanks

[polar oyster]

yop

[mint stone]

https://tools.runescape.wiki/demonic-pacts/?n=1-10-100-101-11-112-113-114-122-135-136-139-140-141-145-146-44-45-46-55-56-57-58-59-6-60-61-68-7-71-8-81-84-87-9-93-94-96-97-99

with shadowflame quadrant and crystal shield. super easy inferno, super easy wave12 coloseum, incredible sustain

[manic prairie]

thats 17 more points than i have

[mint stone]

Work towards it.

Not like I started with 40points either

[cobalt skiff]

is there really no way to train smithing better than making bars yourself or having tiranwynn 70+ ? :(

[hollow eagle]

lmao

[polar oyster]

butler :\

[tacit oyster]

giants foundry is you have desert, butler

[hollow eagle]

mithril dragons -> pbodies baby

[cobalt skiff]

dont have either of those :/

[manic prairie]

blast furnace

boots and afk iron ore

[cobalt skiff]

im morytania asgarnia

[tight jay]

anyone catch a tecu salamander yet

[hollow eagle]

suffer

[manic prairie]

if you have endless and boots you can just afk iron ore

probably your best smithing xp/h

unless somehow you dodged every smithing assist

[cobalt skiff]

i think i did lol

[manic prairie]

relics?

[hollow eagle]

i did! it's straight smithing for me baby

its why i dont have my dfs yet

[cobalt skiff]

endless harvest, friendly forager, evil eye, transmute, larcenist, culling spree, eternal sustenance. and asgarnia and morytania as areas

[manic prairie]

i still need a dfs but i havent gotten a metal dragon task

[cobalt skiff]

i farmed it off task lol

[manic prairie]

whats your last region

[cobalt skiff]

didnt unlock it yet

[mint stone]

Endless harvest, transmute. afk coal / iron ore, transmute up, make into bars, make platebodies

[manic prairie]

but waht is is gonna be

[cobalt skiff]

still doubting

[manic prairie]

but as of right now its probably endless harvest iron and transmute it up

[cobalt skiff]

im playing 1h dogger thorns hybrid

[manic prairie]

you cant call 2 melee paths hybrid

[cobalt skiff]

i can do whatever i want

lmao

[manic prairie]

you can have 1 smithing :)

[cobalt skiff]

lol

nah but i dont mean hybrid as in multiple styles

just a hybrid of the 2 builds

[manic prairie]

the melee paths are all built to have 2 or more at once tho

3 if you want to main hand dinhs

which i want to

does getting an upgraded zenyte count towards wear all zenytes?

[tacit oyster]

misclicks in 800 invo toa hurt... ran into poison in zebak and lost 70 hp in single tick

[manic prairie]

i think i do this and try for echo thermy + kraken stuff for 4 more pacts
https://tools.runescape.wiki/demonic-pacts/?n=1-10-100-11-112-113-114-122-44-45-46-55-56-57-59-6-60-68-7-8-9-93-99

then maybe i can find someone to carry me in tob for a sang

also after thermy i could also just put a point in to staff and go full water

[thorn siren]

Equip all of the Cerberus Boots...

for this task how are u supposed to

[hollow eagle]

eternal just drops

[thorn siren]

dont u need desert for infinity boots

oh

so i just need to somehow score a ranger boot

lmfao

fuck that

[manic prairie]

if an item isnt in the region you get the completed item

[thorn siren]

shoulda went reloaded

[manic prairie]

except avernic treads

[thorn siren]

flow state was so fucking dumb

i knew i shoulda went reloaded clue relic

[manic prairie]

flow state is tick manip wihtout the manip

[thorn siren]

yea its useless

[hushed yew]

they drop as eternal boots

[manic prairie]

especially if you went barbarian

[thorn siren]

i did it just for slightly faster smithing

[manic prairie]

it was answered

[lofty frigate]

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]p[;'][p]:<"ML .,|'][p.

l].;kn.

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[hollow eagle]

hi

[thorn siren]

someone died

[lofty frigate]

guys, if i dotn have the crystal armour set, what would be a good tank gear for water thorn build?

wildy/kandarin

or should i sue mage gear

[tacit oyster]

i wonder which one of these trackers is correct

[next dust]

random goated use for unlocking zeah

[tacit oyster]

white chest from 800 invo

[weary shadow]

I was using the Eclipse set, but got Bando

[next dust]

you can get master clues without the relic

using the cluehunter guy

[manic prairie]

rune with dragon drops tbh

and dfs

[lofty frigate]

i was running that

[manic prairie]

bis obtained

only real armor upgrades are mory asgarnia

[lofty frigate]

cant send picture lol

[manic prairie]

with bandos, barrows, torva, justicar

[lofty frigate]

im runngin mage cap i / dragon med/occult or fury/rune plate/dragon legs/mithril boot/ring of suffering/malediction

[manic prairie]

you can get a dragon full helm

[lofty frigate]

wiht smoke staff

[manic prairie]

can get dragon boot

[lofty frigate]

ye, im going to try to get the dfs now

[manic prairie]

can get dfs

and thats about it

[lofty frigate]

staff should i stay on smoke or mystic water?

[tacit oyster]

Desert is so much worse this league compared to previous since cannot even get guaranteed purples from toa this time

[lofty frigate]

and ammy should i use fury or occult

[tacit oyster]

could run 1000 invo and still have only like 60% chance at purple

[hollow eagle]

sounds like cox

[manic prairie]

having gargalon staff as my only powered staff feels bad

[tacit oyster]

last league 700 invo solo was guaranteed purple in toa

[hollow eagle]

cox is still 65% no matetr what u do

[tacit oyster]

but feels so bad running 2x 800 invo toas for no purple when monkey room can oneshot me if i get hit off pray couple times

well time to run 1000 invo for white chest

[manic prairie]

ahrims or blue moon better to grind?

also idk if one is objectively better

ahrims has so much more defense

and they have the same offense

so i guess i try ahrims until i cry

[covert wolf]

here comes another nightmare

hunting for the ring

[manic prairie]

that just reminded me

i should try and camp vardorvis

thorns shouyld be enought to cheese it right?

[hollow eagle]

confliction gauntlet does NOT feel like a 1/22 from 1->9

shit feels like a lie

[manic prairie]

nvm he kicked my ass

[polar oyster]

dont have ES?

[manic prairie]

whats es

[polar oyster]

endless sustain relic

[manic prairie]

no

thats stinky

also i havent taken food to a boss in days

i just tank it

[polar oyster]

ok

[manic prairie]

i got like 3 kills

and got orb

but idk if imma live

[fierce rain]

This is so sad.

[hollow eagle]

yeah...

[lone bloom]

where can i cast god spells against a player for wildy hard

[timber quest]

Check pvm spots

[covert wolf]

dear sir Vet'ion pls gib ring

[timber quest]

O7

[austere mirage]

Mixoligy is poop

[limber peak]

Is 75 ranged 50 def enough to kill echo KBD to get the cbow

Mixed hide, sunlight cbow with moonlight bolts

[austere depot]

Can you get antifire potions?

[limber peak]

no

[austere depot]

That might be a problem

[limber peak]

but i can wear a shield and prot mage? or does that not work

[manic prairie]

is vardorvis imune to recoil

[austere depot]

Shield and pray mage don't stack, only antifire pot stacks with one or the other

[fickle root]

shouldn't be

[covert wolf]

nope
you can recoil him

[manic prairie]

rad, my dps doubled

[limber peak]

I dont really know how to train herblore atm lol

[odd jacinth]

RS3 player playing with Leagues here (i.e. noob at OSRS ). Can anyone help me decide which pacts to pick? 2t spells or 1t powered + water regenerate? I have a trident on hand

[tacit oyster]

different dragons have different antifire protection rules https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Dragonfire#Damage_reduction

[covert wolf]

echo boots was bis for vard for a reason

[austere depot]

Do you have both crossbow capstones? That might give you enough dps to get a kill or two with an inventory of food but it won't be comfortable farming

[odd jacinth]

My pacts setup atm https://tools.runescape.wiki/demonic-pacts/?n=1-135-136-139-140-141-145-44-46-56-59-68-71-74-81-84

[limber peak]

https://tools.runescape.wiki/demonic-pacts/?n=1-10-15-2-21-24-30-4-44-7

[austere depot]

Yeah I don't think that's gonna be enough just yet

Might be but without antifire pots you're on a timer

[graceful lynx]

is there a resource to determine how much xp per essence at ourania

[limber peak]

I dont really know how Im supposed to get the next pact

i dont really have the build to do moons of peril, and idk if i can handle amox

[graceful lynx]

found it

[austere depot]

Pacts aside, crazy arch drops the rune crossbow and onyx bolt tips, lava dragons drop runite bolts, the rcb is significantly better because it gets more dps from the +2t, +70% damage pact

[limber peak]

the rcb is better than sunlight crossbow with the 91 hunter bolts?

[austere depot]

Should be by a lot, especially with onyx bolts, which you can use fine with 80% regen as long as you pick a few up every now and then

The sunlight crossbow loses a lot more than the rcb from +1.2s attack time

[limber peak]

I also cant kill crazy arch cause he has absurb ranged defense

[austere depot]

What's your magic lvl? Mage spells might be better than ranging him even with ranged pacts

[limber peak]

86

[austere depot]

If you can afford bloods then any wave spell should be decent enough

It does suck a bit bossing with maingame dps but the rcb is great

[limber peak]

I dont have any mage gear

Nor do I know how to get some, the wizard guild is locked

[austere depot]

With just magic ammy, elemental staff and god cape you'll have like 85% hit chance

Alternatively iron or steel dragons on Karamja drop runite limbs but those have ranged dragonfire so you'll get a bit burnt there, they're super vulnerable to bolts though

[cobalt skiff]

why do the caique not have a pet option for me?

[cinder remnant]

So I buried ourg bones and don’t get the task

[queen trail]

Whats something fun to do in leagues after youve completed your goals

[cinder remnant]

Make more goals?

[real thicket]

kill alchemical hydra 2k times

[lone bloom]

max

[cinder remnant]

Anyway any info on this?

[queen trail]

Done that, was thinking of 50m all but runecraft would be a struggle

[lone bloom]

soul harvest

[queen trail]

Bit late for that

[lone bloom]

so u picked the wrong relics, oh well

[queen trail]

🙁

[real thicket]

never too late for 2k hydras

[cinder remnant]

Start another account with different relics

[real thicket]

you might even get a dragon lance

[queen trail]

Hey i might have picked the wrong relics but i got the right areas!

[real thicket]

about 3 hours ago, it crosssed my mind that 18 jads for the pact point might have been easier than this dragonhunter lance

[merry sphinx]

183 cg still dry nice

[next dust]

another 99! Strength

[real thicket]

gz

[next dust]

str first so then i get more xp when doing atk

[cinder remnant]

I can’t get an answer lolol

[dusty wing]

maybe try to get more ourg bones

[next dust]

crafting cape asgarnia is so goat

[queen trail]

Yeah about that task, some call it the hardest task. Im not a good pvmer, i couldnt do inferno in main game with bis gear but i did finish that task as a pure watermage. Just auto retaliate on and focus prayerswitch. Can even outdamage when they get healed, eventually.

[misty sigil]

ugh keep getting spec'd out by echo gg

[real thicket]

I'm going full tank + dinh's bulwark for 18 jads, 160 defence full thorns, I'm going pray mage and slam it like a slot machine until I rng the challenge

zero brain cells will be allocated to that task

[next dust]

??? RUDE

i killed a enemy that "someone else damaged"

and minion says "You can do better than that"

how dare you

getting roasted by my own relic

lol dupe sulphur blades

[fallow vault]

anyone taken Grimoire that can answer some questions?

[real thicket]

I took it

[next dust]

ive heard it sucks

[real thicket]

It doesn't suck, it depends on your regions

[fallow vault]

i heard its locked a lot by region/quest even though its says "Additionally, when you select this relic, you will unlock access to all prayers and spells regardless of area, quest, or diary requirements."

[real thicket]

no

[misty sigil]

it's only chiv and piety which get relocked and that takes 20 mins top to unlock

[real thicket]

there were a couple lunar spells that were bugged but they're in the fix/bug post

everything else was unlocked

including piety/rigour/augury, and arceus spells, etc

[strange jacinth]

heard someone say they had 134 magic level is that possible

[fallow vault]

soo all spell books aswell as prayers are unlocked?

[real thicket]

yeah

it's worth noting if you have kandarin, you have access to most lunar spells

[willow finch]

If going powered staff healing route with mage, the more % regenerate runes the better correct? For healing?

[real thicket]

keep that in mind if you're just looking for spellbook options

mage cape can swap your spellbook to lunar spells since lunar diplomacy was auto completed

don't need grimoire

[lone bloom]

can i get ice gloves without asgarnia/frem

[real thicket]

but it could be worth taking for access to ancient magick if you can't get wrath runes easily / at all

[real thicket]

I'd rather kill 200 more hydras than 200 dark beasts

awful creature

[cedar shore]

I am so mad challenge cox gives no loot normal cox has like 10 percent chance it seems if you get 40k points, normal tob no loot as well wth is going on

[idle patio]

is there a smithing solve besides larcenist

[real thicket]

?? what's wrong with the loot?

[manic prairie]

i dont know about tech

[cedar shore]

Loot aint dropping

[real thicket]

that's weird

I wonder if jaggy mesed something up with the adjustments last patch

[cedar shore]

We did duo tob normal one 8 kc didn't receive a single purple chest and it seems like it should be 50/50

[rotund sierra]

What world is being used for pest control?

Or have I missed my chance

[ruby socket]

is the balance 5 barrels task bugged?

[weary shadow]

I think it was 666

[rotund sierra]

Yeah empty

[fallow vault]

check back diff time

[lofty frigate]

mithril dragon is really he best option for dfs/dfh?

[covert wolf]

dark bow incoming

[fallow vault]

drop table is same for iron/steel

[cinder remnant]

Also wondering about ourg bones

I think it’s bugged too

[covert wolf]

this guy is so not fun to grind

the kill too slow

[cinder remnant]

Like echo thermy

[real thicket]

are u doing it solo?

[covert wolf]

what you grind thermy for?

[covert wolf]

ye

[cinder remnant]

Trident

[real thicket]

unlucky

solo is def the way to go, wildy boss splits suck

[cinder remnant]

Echo thermy also super click intensive if you pray perfectly

[covert wolf]

at least tit's 1/25

what im after is 1/100

[cinder remnant]

Fair

It does really suck going unlucky tho

Sending you rng

[covert wolf]

it's the last thing i have to get ttthen im done with the triple boss

[real thicket]

voidwaker?

[cinder remnant]

Any T8 or higher in V?

[covert wolf]

ring

[real thicket]

ooh

[covert wolf]

thing like this is unavoidable

i have enough voidvaker

[real thicket]

u should see my hydra pit

[real thicket]

at least the dude drops sanfews

[dusty wing]

wdym

[covert wolf]

some random joining in

[dusty wing]

ah

yeah

[real thicket]

tbh I just started pking ppl while getting voidwaker parts

[covert wolf]

i prob gonna leave this

come back another time

[merry sphinx]

jagex is never gonna dree me from red prison

[covert wolf]

or do i lock in?

[real thicket]

they just want to leech and they don't kill dogs etc

[wicked wedge]

Any suggestions for what to reload into? I went Barb Gath-Woodsman- Evil Eye-Butler-Soul-Culling. stuck between endless, clues, and larcenist. points is probably my priority late game

[real thicket]

nature's accord or transmute

[covert wolf]

is cavalrion basically have same mechanic as vettion?

[dusty wing]

if you have tirannwn and need crafting/smithing thats an easy larcenist

[real thicket]

identical

just like 30% less hp

and it's not multi combat

[wicked wedge]

crafting and smithing already solved by butler. i do have tirannwn but dont mind cg for crystal pieces

[covert wolf]

guess itts not worth

[dusty wing]

its basically free 50mil in both of those

and 200m thieving

but if u have it solved prolly not worth

[bronze tangle]

Someone here recommended mixology for getting the 4-dose agility potion required for trio - but from what I can see the rewards only give 3 dose potions? Am I missing something?

[wicked wedge]

kinda why i'm leaning towards EH or clues. EH for 50m xp in a few skills. or clue for log points

[real thicket]

decant them

use one on the other

to get 4 dose

[dusty wing]

eh is very nice

clue relic kinda seems unnecessary imo

but idk

[covert wolf]

i think i'll just lock in

but if i dont see any unique until 400kc i quit

idk but vetion has tthe dryest unique drop of all the boss i kill

[misty sigil]

echo gg is so frustrating, i never know what is stunning me lol

[dusty wing]

Vetion has the last voidwaker piece for me nad idk if im desperate enough to grind that dumpster boss

[real thicket]

the dryest .. so far

[covert wolf]

i mean

unlike my callisto

that's just a lot of ring

[real thicket]

I got spoonfed on echo hunlef and now I'm paying for my hubris

31 kc, full crystal armor, 2 enhanced weapon crystals, blessing

every other grind has been a bit rough tho

[covert wolf]

my only spoon is venenatis

got all task related item in 19

[real thicket]

I like venenatis

vet'ion sucks

[dusty wing]

Legit all the other bosses are chill

[real thicket]

venenatis is like a big sand crab

very enjoyable

[dusty wing]

and then vetion is just annoying as hell

[covert wolf]

vetion suck because of the scripted trash mechanic

[dusty wing]

i love arbitrary dps lock outs

[real thicket]

yeah me too

[covert wolf]

can one shot but the game said no

here's some doggy to play with

[real thicket]

800 kc on alchemical hydra

this fight is dogshit

[covert wolf]

never try alchemical hydra

i'll get there if dhl is the last thing i can't get from cox

there's a pact behind using dhl after all

[real thicket]

I instant phase him with king's barrage, and I spend about 35 seconds of the 50 second fight watching him waddle around between vents so I can shoot him

while he's puking acid and fire everywhere like a demon baby

I miss vet'ion

[covert wolf]

not a fan of wildy i see

[vapid silo]

Sire too, could easily get him to 0 HP in phase 2 but he just resets a portion of HP to make sure phase 3 happens

[covert wolf]

there's the unique

[covert wolf]

yikes

a real suffering of using kb

then you just miss like 4-5 shotts

[real thicket]

it gets better

minion is a god send for kb

[covert wolf]

d pick now

[real thicket]

and eventually your accuracy is practically 100%

[covert wolf]

i can feel it

getting closer

i know sanfew is nice but can i just tget my ring

i have another 100 at the bank

[rotund sierra]

Are defender drop rates not boosted?

[real thicket]

https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Demonic_Pacts_League%2FBoosted_drops

Bronze through rune defenders Cyclops 1/50 1/25 1/10

they are boosted

[rotund sierra]

lmao wtf I'm on 100 kc only bronze so far

[merry sphinx]

fix this shit jagex

why lock a pact behind rng

[real thicket]

I swear drops are broken rn

[merry sphinx]

dryness protection or delete the rng pacts holy shit

[warm hazel]

question, I've gone friendly forager and I've got the prescription goggles, having 1 secondary in the invent only lets me do one at a time instead of processing the whole invent. Is there anything I'm missing or is it just expected

[real thicket]

Like I'd bet my hcim's life on it

something is sus

I'm on a low pop world and there are ppl standing outside of hydra talking about not getting the lance

like this thing is insane

[fallow vault]

@real thicket what ya think i've got relics abund, woods,evil,trans,larc,culling i feel like i should take butlers bell cause it would fix a few skills

[real thicket]

butler's bell is mid xp for everything but crafting

[fallow vault]

i picked trans because i thought it was also do my rc but it notes rune ess

[real thicket]

I'd only take it for resourcess

and if you're a semi-active or low activity player

[covert wolf]

so i've been grinding a 1/143...

[fallow vault]

yeah i got max hrs weekend but only 2 hrs everyday during the week

[real thicket]

probably a good pick then

or nature's accord

or soul harvest tbh

one of those 3

[fallow vault]

i was going to get soul harvets but that really only affects rc as trans fixes prayer for me

[merry sphinx]

i took soul harvest

[real thicket]

depends what skills / regions you have and what you can't solve

[merry sphinx]

easy prayer and rc xp

[real thicket]

yeah, transmute + wilderness = free prayer

I was getting 25m/hr at altar, and you can evil eye tp to fanatic

[covert wolf]

already max prayer and rc already

doesn't hurt to get 50m on both

[fallow vault]

i'm elf,mort and kand

[real thicket]

elf good, larcenist + elf = smithing/crafting

[covert wolf]

mort? you mean mory?

if you have both elf and mory then its 100% larcenist to help you the most

[real thicket]

I'd probably go nature's or butler

butler a lot less good since ur elf with larcenist

[austere mirage]

how do i get a leprechaun to send something to a bank?

[fallow vault]

how so?

[merry sphinx]

forestry

just chop trees in busy worlds it should come up

[real thicket]

you can crystal armour craft smithing and crafting

[fallow vault]

true

[real thicket]

so butler isn't going to really do much for those

and it's best xp skill is crafting

which u don't need

the other xp is like 1m/day

which is shit

[austere mirage]

in certain areas?

[real thicket]

so it gets you some resources