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will runelite make a noise when the shard drops?
for easy tokul
just make sure to get karamja gloves first
so you sell for more and pay less
the onyx goes from 300k tokul to 260
and each death rune goes from 12 to 17?
i thibk
yeah i have the basic Karamja gloves
so stack up cash in aldarin
yeah the death runes wasn't much
and then buy tons of death runes
yea but you can buy stacks of 50
just spam click
for 5 min
too bad i cant auto click it
any help for this lad on reddit? seems like he is softlocked into a task that he cant cancel without points, no ice warriors in his areas other than the amoxli dungeon, but cant access it without the quest that needs 48 slayer
hope they pick asgarnia as their first area then
or the wilderness
There's ice warriors in amox dung
Anybody know a decent smithing method for 50-70?
the fairy shouldn't even be able to give ice warriors
but 48 slayer for the quest, they have 1 slayer
account dead! no more slayer for him
hotfoot relic mining
How about without hotfoot 😢
do you have the butler bell tier 4?
they need to buff drop rates i cba going main game rate for lance
make people do mastering mixology for 1 hour to gain a reset point in pacts 
thermy is going to give me high blood pressure
No! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooooooooo!
naw, EH/FF/EE/T/Larc/Eternal sus
i have prif but getting 50-70 seems a bit of labour
i would most likely do it
ah ok nice
alternatively steal ores from ore stall and transmute to highest tier u can smith maybe
not even superheating steel bars is worth doing when zalcano drops 700 steel bars at once
99 soon
i see thermy has +800 magic defense, im mage only build, am i just fucked or??
crafting cape is nice with eternal harvest
if i need to go afk i just teleport and mine gold
ill try thermy after im done with cg crystal armour seeds
not mage, only range
oh nvm
how you going on that grilled?
ye
1 minute echo hunleff's are chill, and so much loot, 4/6 armour seeds
anyway I was doing it fine b4 the accuracy buffs, using trident
does trident hits heal you?
no
I'm used to the echo hun's now, got 25 kc but taking a break, no armour and 1 enhanced
they can tho if u spec into it
1 per hit with the right pact
if you pick water regen on the pacts
wtf powered staff pact is so nasty
Kinda thinking about picking up all those powered staff relics, does the fire build up have a cap?
but trident of the seas dont use water runes... how would it heal
you can make powered staves "use" each elemental rune with pacts
Cuz it's regenerating charges
shame it doesn't count echo kc, i think i'm at 30+
theres one pact for each ele rune
powered staff does not mean casting elemental spells, they need to generate runes
And the pact makes 1 charge = 1 air/water/fire/earth rune
wow that's a log
thinking about doing this air/water/thorns build, but i only have 30 pacts at the moment. so i would only get the things ive circled red later.
how badly is that gonna bite me? the things circled are mostly accuracy, CURRENTLY i would miss out on
+1% magic damage
+90% accuracy
+30% overheal
35% regen chance
+15 defence
... is it even worth it at this point or should i wait a bit longer?
very jealous
Free water!
you'll be fine in all but stuff like vard, sol, bloat etc
but i will be fine after i got those points right
I reset into light thorns melee from blindbag and now I don’t know what else to do with my pact points
not there yet so not sure but thats looking just about exactly what I wanna build pacts wise as well
though I'd take the powered staff pact for 1 point
Is there just a bonk mastery talent path?
and worst case can use shadow for giga accuracy
for what exactly
personally im done with CG and i dont have mory so no lithic
Im going up against amox now coz my clan has a bounty on echo weapons
Can we go catch karambwans right away after unlocking karamja or do we need to do the quest still?
you need to do the quest
Boo
Trio
Ok ty
we can get shadow without desert right?
fishing them dont need to finish with agility potions. cooking without hotfoot requires completing quest
yea any raid
Ya
🤷♂️
Nah
ig i dont have to wonder cause dps calcs exist
I've heard quadrant is better
Since u basically max hit all the time
And it's a 4t weapon too yeah
Do they, i havent been able to pull up echo bosses on dps calc
5/6 now at 44 echo kc
gearscape seems to have everything but echo bosses
Thats what i thought ye
Tbf the weapons are kinda cracked out
Going to be a while before everything is ready ig
looks like shadowflame air mage would still be better even with 1t shadow, but ive only calced with prayer gear tbh
so ymmv
hmm looks like shadow beats air build in couple places like sol, but it's not by a lot
probably not doing sol with mage anyway and more of a respec angle
sol is part of why im thinking of adding thorns into the mix
i LOOOOVE the P...rayer mage
not sure Ill even include air in final build, maybe just water+thorns+onehanded melee
and powered staff might be more useful there
idea is big dps and active gameplay = wind
afk/chill = water
hard content = water + thorns
my build has 1t powered staff and blindbag for melee , which was required for amox (not anymore) and vardorvis
only thing im really iffy on rn is respecing at 30 pacts with none of the accuracy
if I get 5 megarare vouchers I may try blindbag, already got a holy and sang kit
time!
for the triple scythe joke
this is my current build at 31 pact points
https://tools.runescape.wiki/demonic-pacts/?n=1-100-101-133-135-136-139-145-150-151-152-161-164-44-46-53-56-59-60-68-73-74-81-82-84-85-86-87-91-93-99
Plan what you will choose in Leagues VI using our Demonic Pacts tree.
Huge
has anyone gotten a revenants slayer tasks since the updates?
are you using krystilia?
Yes
so i want more damage on minion
i have 3/5: zamorak scimy, unholy blessing, zamorak robe top
i could kill chaos druids for an unholy mold
or do clues?
Gargoyles are completely missing from the in game slayer list... anyone know a fix/workaround?
i got them from steve
looks like there's a necromancer near tower of life that drops zamorak robes
which slayer master are you using?
update made them use main game task lists
hello does anyone know whats the best thing i can do with soul shards in kandarin, mort and tirran
mining cape now to go with eternal harvest and celestial ring lol
do i need more ore?
so i have a chance to get a third ore and xp for it i guess hah
Where do I look for and post bugs?
whats an easy source of herb seeds? master farmers right?
can we talk about how rude putting drink here is
yeah i pickpocked them and then used transmute to get the one i wanted
Drink it!
@chilly pine got my first armour seed, 32 echo huns
pray for 6 willow branches
huh
you do
nice one, the ball is officially rolling
well i've now had 3 deaths in a row lol
oh i think the thorns is giving me atk
that it does
this is just normal antifire
Ohh
Then I can make it
you can get shards from fishing in mol-ul rek
Zenyte shards?
yeah? yeah? yeah?
Awwwwwww
can you not use sunlight crossbow without having kandarin unlocked?
back to the murder then
fishing shop has Cbow, in southwest varlamore
but no ammo?
but the kebbits are only in kandarin
ah
and eventually with MOONLIGHT bolts

Is there a leagues pest control world every one uses?
those are mostly called on the league discords, but you could try 401/666
maybe someone will be there
Will do thanks
have to do regular gauntlet for the task
then you have the easy part 
wildy has no mercy today
does this task work with rune shards from the relic?
i just want my ring
lemme see
all diaries too work
big
rune shards?
wait what did you 2 check
i remember i got the elite karamja instantly done with this one
tasks done
--rune shards--
🤣
soul shards
[[soul shards]]
crushing thermy echo but my brain is melting
nope they dont exist!
[[Soul harvest]]
not sure if this trade off is worth it
🙁
goddamit wiki
Ohhhhhh soul harvest!
might be shards
weird
not important for league stuff
ye
does anyone know which afk skilling activites can be done while transmuting?
sadly not firemaking
wc?
mining the bone shards in varlamore i think
i cant transmute while stealing from stalls sadly
PSA 📢: We've released a hotfix to resolve an issue where Konar was assigning location specific tasks to areas players don't have access to. If you were previously in this state speaking to any Slayer Master will give you a new task.
99 str from barb gathering letsgooooo
Nice!
Double dipping with barb fishing go brr
barbarian fishing with hotfoot!
guys, somehow i dropped my evil eye and the leagues tutor wont give it back?
get that fish cooked as well
get robbed
Yep that is who you need
double check your bank
he doesnt have that option
right click claim rewards or whatever it is?
it gives mea dramen stafaf
its a talk to option
not in my bank, there is no talk option for it
That one?
yeah, click it and he gives me a dramen staff
i just died at whisper and tried to last teleport with my eye, it dropped, and now i can't claim it lmfao
how long does it take to get 8 huey hides for ful lhuey armour
you searched in the bank using the magnifying glass?
Its not equipped right?
does minion do dmg regardless of prayers or defense? or is it a specific style the minion does?
yes
I think it has 45000 accuracy in every style
Holy crap it was equipped... chad @ember thorn
yeah reched t7
7 more tasks for last region
and then the fun beginns
minion does whatever the enemy is weak to
if they're praying mage, itll hit range/melee
and vice versa
oh ye and if its range/magic imp can also AoE
Is demonics counting as black demons still bugged?
you already have items? :o
just finished @ 46 kc
no its not, did 300 kc for ballista
very nice for demonic monkey
Does minion work in cg?
I mean I guess for slayer purposes?
Apparently does my friend told me so
but I cant confirm it
it works just fine
all t8 work in cg
ohh so it can help with getting the prayer of your style
thats neat
yes it autoloots and attacks with you
so like
powered stave with 50% prayer pen
and you jsut keep shooting and minion sometimes turns prayer back so you feal 100% damage instead of 50%
does recharge effect on charges work on the ring of suffering
people really do be aiming for this
hahaha
no
go make 10000 rings
guess i should wait for them to fix flask in cox before i grind it more, i really want rigour though 
only 255 hp
thats 2 crossbow shots
range only olm just pain when cannot even use flask to deal with hands faster
oh yeah i am zeah
minion
shit
wdym?
nothing is free
time is money and money doesn't grow on trees
btw anyone with zeah, you can claim 2x 10k xp lamps from kourend castle. kingdom divided reward lamps
where am i supposed to kill Cave Crawlers tureal?
amoxliatl dungeon has them
fake
does anyone else check the wiki for all spots a monster can be before asking
or is it just me
meh some people like community engagement
wiki is nice ye
any weird facts/tips for kandarin, tirannwn and morytania?
thanks for info
it doesn't show moonlight cockatrice for cockatrice page tho
we got 5x max this league
just like last league
you can see this page for reference:
https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Raging_Echoes_League/Boosted_drops
so 5/512 chance
1/512, 1/256, 1/102
Demonic gorillas count as black demons for slayer
i rerolled slayer until i got one then picked 200 of them :) I'm getting that zenyte
100 zulrah kc is still rough though if you dont have infinite sustain
simply kill the snake before it can attack you
I got the task for completing all combat achievements for zulrah today
eh im doing 20 second kills and my poh is in priff so bank re-runs are 30 seconds more
without water sustain
but thats my next pact
zeah is scary yeah it has yama and cox
eternal sustenance ftw
i picked it first though and it was helpful early
I picked it on leagues 4 and hated it, never again
Echo hespori is chill too
my rotation is evil eye -> kill -> poh in priff to clear venom and transport back if good on food. if not restock rq (extra 30 seconds) and back at it
and have gilded for prayer
imma get the water regen heals you pact next to sustain even more
Duffous!
1 in 1500 pull!
Too bad im aiming for a 1 in 3000 pull
when you need to make the 100 stews or whatever. wait until post minion
minion can note the raw beef
i just want a dharok helm so i can get my pact point
there's raw beef in shops
exact drop rate
jagex should let players have infinite resets the last 24 hours, that would be cool
or maybe last 12 hours before it ends
Wait I thought stuff dropped as completed items? I just got a quarter of a soul reaper axe
soul reaper axe drops all 4 pieces from any boss
each dt2 boss can drop all sra pieces
So the vestige will drop as a vestige? Or as the ultor?
in 50 pickpockets i got 2 of them
hi folks, has anyone encountered an issue where 35m fm xp task is not completed?
Ultor
i high alch this stuff for gp
abundance
you still need to get 2 gold rings first
i have abundance
priff larceny solves gp very quickly
Anyone else having trouble with telekinetic grasp? I can’t cast it despite having lvl 99 magic
i will play something else
i am not
gotta do that manually
i have other thigns to do
So uh minion is good for slayer thanks to noting drops and flask is for bossing?
both are good for bossing and different situations. Just depends which one you like more
as long as you don't pick executioner axe
not too far from leaving* mithril
I feel like flask might be better since I'm new to bossing and raids?
and the full heal is there
minion notes drops
minion noting drops is top tier hehe
192 damage nukes and full heal + prayer every 3 mins vs noted drops and a fast hitting thrall with noted drops
flask aoe has been the MVP for clearing blood nylos at maiden in HMT
noted bones will get you to 99 through bone shards
and beyond
That's true as well
Are there any go-to spots for afk agility? Like when we had fountain following before
nah before you just followed someone and went in circles
and left it for like 30 mins
why am i 40 kc dry at huey when the hides are 1/5
Masses?
yes
That's why
Solo it!
If you got the searing boots + endless harvest relics you could probably afk barbarian fishing for afk agility lol
Also that gives agility xp anyway i think
just got done with that, 50m fishing
Agility
Fishing
Cooking
am at 19.5m agility
Not got that region for barb fishing
specifically wanted fountain following or something tbh
Cooking only when you use knife on the sturgeons etc right
Ah shit yeah barbarian ones
and then herblore with mixes if that's your kind of thing
if you fish with searing boots you do move from spot to spot when it changes location, so that procs the agility boots effect too, kinda nice extra xp lol
HUh i didnt
Yea but still pretty slow 😅 I'm also miles ahead in fishing compared to agility
yea am not aware of any follow trains
Oh trust me I already have
tbh I just hoped there was a follow fountain somewhere, don't really wanna bond like 5 accs for it
probably too early for that since people still afk otehr things
That's what i was originally referring to yeah lol
Forgot about the activity itself giving agi
Anywhere to decant in KZT?
potion storage
where's my last void piece...
only option
Oh at the Herblore minigame
i think you are winning on loot
desert can decant, everyone else needs potion storage
bruh why you killing tortured ones
The other ones scare me
these have terrible droprates
I afked them with pray pen and water mage
I can’t enter mastering mixology
60 herb req
give me 2 more pact points and then i can get more thorns

I have 95
maybe need to do the tutorial
then that might be able to keep me damaging them
talk to an npc outside the entrance
Not by much
Just use the echo amox weapon as a switch
HAHAHAHA
you are so funny
i cant handle echo bosses
Kalphite queen beat me up in 5 seconds
Echo amox is a rhythm game in disguise
Do you know which one? I’ve talked to a lot
oh i am double fucked then
the whole game is rhythm game 
hmmm horrible idea
i have crafting cape
oh nvm i cant get to essence mines.
i was thinking to do mind runes to 99 LOL
since i have arceuus spellbook
That might be why i am bad at it
wonder if we have a way
soul harvest
then gl rcing
if you have transmute, you can turn air runes into pure essence
butlermeta
i like my >344m xp/hr rc xp
i bet all the people taking abundance for the GP are mains and not ironman
and think they need that much
you dont have kingdom of miscellania even
abundance is def the worst of the 3
id only take abundance if you plan on playing for a few days
itI don't think so
and quit after getting the pts you need
gets you an early boost at the start
can't do callisto in peace...
i regret not rerolling into friendly forester
the xp gain in the same skill is nice on abundance too
I s'pose. But with eh you can just go get a coffee
And get the xp
Or plan what to do next
you can just not play at all if you go by that logic
you can do anything
that is the nice part
im at 172m magic xp from transmute 
I am getting 400k/hr attack xp using magic
yes, coldfixed sometime later. Probably next wednesday
that's rough
I've got culling spree with like a boss enabled, but still not getting boss tasks?
my imp is killing the manticore for me
totemic + bees 
it'll stop eventually 😛
Is there a go to for best fishing xp afk? I did iron ore to 99, just wondering if fishing is the same. Like just trout or some shit
I love the typo
how do you get to mithril dragons in leagues
as you can't do the barcrawl miniquest
you can
if you have kandarin
all non kandarin parts autocomplete
do i need to do tai bwo wannai?

yes
straight to barb training
you definitely don't
you do if you want a hasta
....
i just want to kill a mithril dragon
ah you dont need for that
jsut do fire training
okay thank you
and then the other fire training start
tai is needed for smithing
the pyre making task is so fuckign ass
i survived 1 wave in the arena!
does the prayer penetration here apply to demonic gorillas? i know it'd only be 50% but that's still 50% chip damage
its 550 prayer exp per 100 shards before exp multiplier
yeah
but gorilas are nto that hard tbh, jsut tad annoying
worth going that route for that and the overheal leading into magic?
why is this a drop?
ok.... void last piece to end it all
Think I'm gonna use Arceus thralls more as excuse to get magic xp
and then this page has a table with exp requirements per level:
https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Experience
yea they're not bad just gotta range them with my low range stat lol
i went mage+ melee
but i had abyssal tentacle
My range is probably nearing lvl 110+. And only started pvm.
which made it piss easy
I did find a good answer to zulrah too
Larcenry the fruit stalls on zeah
Use the strange fruit.
Don't need to stinky antipoison
does anyone have an equipment list for max air mage
probs vestments,
jsut as much prayer as you can
what we thinkin faster tick manipulate granite/sandstone or power mine iron
Afk runite for pet chance?
dont have endless harvest
something like this would be optimal setup for air mage but you might need to change items based on regions
why runite when it is rolled each xp drop?
then standard mining leveling methods
wouldn't it make sense to make more individual xp drops be better
You can use leagues to assist against carpal tunnel / cubital tunnel
By afking a lot
I expect runite to have a better base chance for pet
Like fishing karambwanji is super rare to spawn pet
Are ppl actually regretting tiranwynn? Like did they not understand what they signed up for?
somehow I did that on my iron tho
I thought you meant like endless harvest on runite
I took endless precisely becasue normal leveling for gathering skills is ass
Probably
Yes, eh on runite so you mine a lot
but for pet? and not runeite ore?
Imagine picking elf land and not wanting to do cg
Yesr, eh runite for pet?
wouldn't mining something faster be better for pet?
no one should have to do cg
does mining runite give higher chance?
40 amox kc and no echo, am i doing something wrong??????????
Echo cg is fine
some do because they forgot why CG is called red prison
echo cg is fun
Unicorns in aldarin for superantipoisons
Orb drop rate is like 1/30. Pity rate is 60kc
Iron base chance for pet: 741,600
Runite: 42,377
tyty
Do thorns work on CG
No shield
Yh but eww
Slow
Strange fruit are great just annoying to get normally
can you get avas without kandarin?
if you have frem vorkath drops assembler
Fremmy for assembler
Apparently not if asgarnia. Even tho we have a perdu.
eh i mean with friendly forager there's a chance to not use secondary mats
Yeah
And in maldingI learned the 90% stacks with 10% goggles.
ye fair
Id so have rerolled lol
So dumb
I got like 70 antifires out of an inv of dragon scales
And didn't even use them all
i am the same for dharok
60kc is guaranteed?
ye
on all echos?
sometimes rng fucks you
i've been lucky so far
On amox specifically
i will not complain
Its different for each boss
CG the echo orb drop is guaranteed on 30kc, but that fight is a lot harder than amox
Once I got the rhythm down echo amox is easier than regular imo
Hespori gives the drop on the 1st kill because it takes so long for it to grow
ive been lucky and unluck soem things dropped in half the droprate, others i had to go 4-8x
more shard for the shrad stack
I went pity rate on amox weapon and got both echo thermy drops in 3 kc. I’m glad it wasn’t the other way round
now 3 pairs of pants and no hat
any good money solves without abundance?
cutting gems in aldarin
what you have? it all depends
cutting gems in aldarin, transmute can be passive moneymaker, larcanist for pickpocketing
If I'm not grinding hard to get dragon cup, what's the best tier 7 relic / reload?
Not going prayer mage so idk about clues. Is eternal sus best for melee?
barb gathering forager evil eye clues larcenist culling transmute minion
im tryna get the 250m for crystal crown but it seems rough
i have 233M atm
i only have like 30m from larcenist
not that i will use it
larcanist for 200m thieving xp on elves would get 80m gp and like 100-150m gp in things you can sell
AFk gem stall cut and sell gems
guess my next is 1 sarachnis kill
i saw 4, 0 hits
u should fight mimic
mayeb soem phase where target is immune
it was against torag
do i need another region for that?
if you have zeah
right before he died
overkill dmg probs jsut went to the ether
trashpile continues expanding
How chill is skotizo with thorns build
I guess he's technically on task too since black demon task
pogger
Nice, can confirm 50 kc echo thermy was boring af
me + minion + resurrect spell
Went 44 for echo amox no spoons here
yup with better defence and some prayer
Oh it has prayer?
+3
Wiki links found:
https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Rune_longsword
Fremennik only
should be fine for sirachnis first kill
Kandarin has a dragon longsword for sale though
i got the platebody from the elite clue
I asume echo boots drops as a whole item
Does twin flame work the same as shadow flame in terms of weakness and acting as the spell set for demonic pacts?
It works jsut as vanilla one does, but is slower and only can use up to bloods
So is jsut a straight up downgrade from echo
Absolutely, just curious if it worked the same. Thanks!
where mah hilt..
Oh yeah about the prayers! can i use them just from having the Grimoire? or do i need to do the quests for some reason?
I have same problem ad wars, 0 bandos pieces in 200 kills
43 ekbd, no drop yet, guess it's gonna be a pity roll
gave up and got full set from kree in 50
Oh wait someone mentioned its glitched with kandarin
Does this work with powered staff charges? or only ammo like it says.
You jsut need to do waves
waves?
i'm litterally on my last vw piece
Knight waves near seers
u get the free xp too right?
What's the best build with elemental spells?
Yeah
But BOOK!
but BUGS
i will bug your redacted
if u unlock kandarin before grimoire ur all good anyway
This league had a ton of bugs becuase it asumed mistalin is unlocked in some tasks
And unlocking kandarin early defo was a mistake for me
wow i double fucked up that one then
I really wish there was blm in leagues.
going 4-5x dry in a temp game mode isn't fun, especially when you need several drops from the boss.
anyone know?
i was asking people where i should unlock first! no one gave good ideas
Slayer req for echo is no joke
hey at least u didnt take desert by accident when you're playing mage
yeah....... yeah that would have been silly
Why?
Mage trianing is piss easy and fast
like bangedo ut the entire infinity set in 30 mins
but there's nothing else i rly care for
the mage gear isnt worth it from mage training really
still no hilt
That one?
got mine like 263 its def a terrible grind got like 8 blades from veiton tho
this one
Woah another hilt!
got blade but still missing rottg
im like 246 on bandos no hilt
finally got my rotgs last night an the pet absolutely spooned me
venenatis literally drain all my luck
think i got the gem like 7kc an aint been back
callisto was just the worst for everyone i think
2 pegs 2 prims 0 eternals rn :3
Does anyone know?
no it would say runes mate
3 ring 3 claw 5 pickaxe
52 burgers, 52 fries
20 dollar
That is Melee only
i also have mid melee stats rn and need to level up before i can get my prayers back :D
nope
yeah i aint winning this
i got to wave 3
How to so many people do task so fast omg
Unemployed, probably
Guess I’m just slow lol
i did what i could, then i ran away like a man
Ya the employed life I’m not fast
if u tp out i think u restart from the guy you were up to
how far you got?
Ohhhhhhhhhh!
cheese strats?
cheese league
slayer relic or grimoire? mage and range build this leagues with kbd cbow
Slayer
+1
Is there any reason not to choose konar as the slayer master in leagues?
Does anyone know if Barb gathering and endless harvest work together if reloading tier 7?
If it matters, my areas are wildy, mory, kandy, elf
I love it and got to high level too in a time
what is the pity rate on echo orbs?
depends on boss
lets say thermy for example
100% drop on hespori, 40 gives a guarantee on amox
15 for hunlef iirc
hm idk if bow build can do this too well hah
is there anywhere i can imbue a ring of suffering
does the Ghommal hilt 2 count as a shield for thorns?
Doubt it
whats the best relic to reload into
Any of these easy?
like half of those
Easy for someone who cant kill Echo's?
someone who managed to barely get though the fight caves?
like gear wise or skill issue
Oh i did that one
echo amox is easy
i went against echo Kelpite and she just blasted my butt
is she harder than Amox?
is echo kbd bugged or am i missing something? like ill hit for a 20 but his health wont go down?
echo kq is a 0 damage boss if you do it right
yh echo hun is literally just dps
For kalphite queen you wanna pray magic then hit her once from far distance then quickly right click at her and select "walk here"
bow cant out dps it at 50% pen
amoxliatl is probably the easiest echo boss though
Echo amox isn't hard, just rhythm clicks
Nightmare zone, the minigame is disabled but you can use coins instead of points
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Also kalphite queen preferably use long range
echo kq pray melee first phase then swap to mage when the projectile charges up
pray range p2
im mage boi
honestly if i had my basic magic bow over the tier 3 crystal bow vs echo hun
echo thermy with dogger is so much fun lol
sit in melee range or you take 40 damage
Don't really need melee
Just try hit some with magic or whatever you can afford to bring
If it doesn't work then try something else again
Thorns go brr
ideally you sit in melee range so your spells land faster and you dont take crazy damage
at least for echo kq
hey im just getting around to seeing this but thank you so much
any water mage thorn builds out there?
Look at my incredibly reasonable time on fc 
what are the ideal regions to take if I wanted to focus on thorns/mage for my build
I'm not confident in my woox walking so it was pretty tough for me lol
had to metronome for it
It took me ten tries to get it down, then 10 kills in a row
is is possible to block the blue orb form echohun? i dont think so right
the purple thing
kandarin and two free picks 🤣
Kandarin gives you trident into the two echo elemental items, suffering ring, occult
is mocha doable with mage?
nah blue disable your pray to avoid, purple will just hit you
I assume thats echo mox, yes they nerfed its mage/range def this patch
Yes
Most people in main game use range because void + scobow is a great combo here. But mage is fine.
~I've lost the echo groove after lunch
And even if you choose to respec later you still have zenyte jewellery
what do we think is more annoying (deciding my reload) RC or herblore 
inventory space on a good slayer task (infinite food)
just got my first kill in a while where i accidcentally equipped the dagger and not my staff on the final phase
but nah fr I'm debating on soul harvest
am also leaning towards it
just gotta actually do my farm runs which I haven't been
ah true....
actually
Does echo hespori give farming xp
I wasn't paying attention during my first kill
yeah but doesn't matter with pray pen
but thats still great tech for builds with low points
i can't imagine adding the dagger into rotations though because you have to dagger it then use another weapon before your main hand
you just wouldn't be able to kill it otherwise, it's not tech, it's intended way of killing it
so i would hally or bow and then back to staff
which gets skipped with pray pen builds
ah right echo hunleff
pray pen 
yeah but 50% isnt enough
what are the ideal regions to take if I wanted to focus on thorns or mage for my build
if youre not a mage build
yeha both mages want K
sweet i was thinking tiranwyn and kandarin for sure
tbh i havent spent any pact points or unlocked any zones so justr trying to set myself up for success
raid region for ur last if you wanna have max available points
if you go pwoered staff for a endgame option you can take M as your raid region for the echo weapon
but i do that build and take zeah instead, trident from K is already very strong
thorns doesnt have a echo weapon and jsut want high def armor
is powered staff and water build two different builds?
well you can invest a whole 2 points to make the water build also the powered staff build
oh ok
it is hillarious how few nodes powered staff needs
Seems like a combo of thorns and mage is best but i only have 8 points so i cant have both atm
i am ironicly tempted to go from my powere staff + thorns build -> water by investing 3 more thorns
i recommend thorns first
i cant sacrifice my fire cape he says im capable and have access??
appreciate that and yeah it was my lean
YEAH BABY! thats what we have been waiting for
i think right now my plans going to be to start speccing into thorns and knock out my 99 lsayer
thats what its all about
to access inferno
next to the pit
faux talked a lot about that build and it is quite a complicate dquestion,
the big problem is if you are in T thorns dont do SHIT in CG
yeah i get that
I did CG in gridmaster lol but obvs with all the combat stuff so
btw for the thorn mage build
there will be enemys you wont mage them and switch to mellee with even higher def armor
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got the basics for the air spells pretty much sorted. not sure what gear i want to get for the water/thorns part for afking.
yeah for early thorns it seems the build is light wep + thorns
so ill prob go grab a draggon dagger for now
no just this
I've selected Kandarin and talked to the spirit trees but I am still unable to teleport to any tree in Kandarin from the village or the stronghold. Is there a quest I need to do other than the auto completed ones to make the spirit trees work?
the moment you reach that top capstone you are op
its HILLARIOUSLY strong
with adamant/rune armor even
got it ok
that was my next question can you give me any sort of progression to aim for for the thorns? obvs rune armor and rune kiteshield
Very
armour seed 2/6 on my 45th echo hun
whats your build right now=
water+air mage
but how about weapon? and after rune/dragon idk the best armor to aim for tbh
i need one more enhanced seed still
- the KC tasks
I'm actually thinking of rolling to that lol
But doom wont drop me conflictions 🙁
probably depends on your bosses, even with just rune you will be able to do basicly every boss
i am unsure of the routing afterwards, if its better to go powered staff first or invest 2 points into the top healing node when you get hit by a 0
thank you for all this i really appreciate it
should i unlock tiranwyn or kandarin first?
I've got both enhanced, but still also need KC so not complaining
btw once you have thorns you can super easily get 99 in every mellee stats at maniacle monkeys
like the upgraded thorns
K
yeah this is a big reason im leaning thorns over the mage builds to start
also thorns is really dope on slayer at mutated monsters for the powered staff farm
its insane slayer exp as 6 of them can attack youa t the same time lol
in leagues is there any chance you can turn extre weapon seeds or shards or something into an armor seed?
no
Going water thorns and I’m torn between Kourend and tiranwnn. I already have kandarin as my third region.
I'd rather turn armor seeds into weapon seeds tbh, so I can turn them for acorns
whats your fist region?
so what is allowed to be traded?? aside from trading in seeds for shards, i know about that vendor
cant you jsut buy weapon seeds for 750k?
ah
yea but surprisingly Im not yet that set on gp
yeah ill be back here for sure to be asking tons of slayer questions lol
only about 5.5m
people told me T
i am not that impressed by it though but dont know zeah tasks
get slayer relic before touching it at all
Kourend does have Yama and TOA
too late lol but i can stop for now
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