leagues-general

[plain gazelle]

I’ve played 2 days

That’s it

[signal pecan]

about 12k

[plain gazelle]

If you’re under 20k points with 2 days played don’t correct me

[thorn marsh]

I've been playing every day since Leagues started, and I'm at 16,740 points and 400 tasks..

[plain gazelle]

lol

[tacit oyster]

21k with basically no combat done

[plain gazelle]

People correcting me on water mage being ass

[thorn marsh]

I am not efficient with my points..

[plain gazelle]

And saying you don’t need food

Smh

[potent quail]

i do think the biggest thing about this post is the prayer penetration buff

2 prayer pen nodes now give you 50% which is really nice

[livid slate]

Water 1Tick Staff and Thorns clears mono water mage

[kind quail]

Water mage si ass on some bosses, but they do be fixing it, but atleast you are fucking immortal

[thorn marsh]

Prayer penetration works at Hunleff, right..?

[vapid silo]

yes

[cloud panther]

eff it, im coming back to these dumb gorillas when I got some pray pen so I can just roflstomp em

[livid slate]

Yes

[cloud panther]

yes

[thorn marsh]

Rad..

[latent socket]

Yeah 100%

[tacit oyster]

yeah tirannwn, desert and fremmenik get a lot from the prayer pen

[plain gazelle]

You’re not immortal if you don’t hit! Haha

[cloud panther]

friken things are just annoying to fight

[hazy spear]

I hate how for the forestry event with the sapling it has to succeed for the task to complete

[potent quail]

thats 4 nodes

[kind quail]

You are still regenerating runes which heal a ton

[hazy spear]

and not participate like all the other ones

[full wagon]

Is evil eye just broken for leviathan or is it intended to just never be allowed since it requires Mistiliania

[covert wolf]

i'm at 19 with 27 rumour done

[plain gazelle]

Forestry events are so ass. You have to do them solo

Everyone is afk at trees

[tacit oyster]

75% prayer pen is easy and now that they give +2 respecs too

[kind quail]

and also getting extra 20% accuracy after the fix due to small nodes

[vapid silo]

chop somewhere remote, it has more HP if more people are chopping in the area

[cloud panther]

same, since it is based on the amount of ppl there

[plain gazelle]

Yeah it’s so bad

[covert wolf]

28 now

[plain gazelle]

Forestry so shit

[potent quail]

now (just a s a example a routing like this looks REALLY nice)

so all 3 of these side patches are much nicer to grab

[cinder rune]

yea 🙁

[formal gulch]

Wow, and the highest defense roll I’ve seen is awakened Vard and his magic defense. Sol’s defense blows that outta the water.

[signal pecan]

i gotta get my herblore up, once i get antifire i can do echo kbd and rly start raking in the combat buffs

[plain gazelle]

You don’t need a figure

Get a shield

From a slayer master

[signal pecan]

i went straight for the crossbow capstones

[covert wolf]

dam

this is faster than i though

[plain gazelle]

Echo kbd is hella easy

[potent quail]

thatw tih huntsman?

[plain gazelle]

Just use shield

[kind quail]

sometimes not sometimes is luck of the draw

[cloud panther]

so with my current build I will get an additional 50% accuracy

[covert wolf]

3 rumour done in less than 5 min

[plain gazelle]

Don’t forget to cary a herb on yourself at all times for Mr Hyde

[kind quail]

I get +45 so far

[naive crystal]

which herb?

[kind quail]

Or i can spec out of one accuracy node

[plain gazelle]

Any

[covert wolf]

29 rumour 21 q feed

[formal gulch]

Irit.

[plain gazelle]

You just need to give him a herb for a task

[latent socket]

Meanwhile I had to catch 60 jerboa for one rumour..

[formal gulch]

For the karamja Tai Bwo Wannai Trio quest.

[kind quail]

irit for agi if you plan to do tai

[formal gulch]

Or take Kandarin.

[signal pecan]

ive had like 10 tecu rumors and no drop because i finish them too fast

[covert wolf]

i just had to get like 98 red chin earlier then i notice a better rumour

if i were to do 500 chins prob gonna do black one at wildy

equip 500 black chins is ttask

[signal pecan]

literally suffering from success

[potent quail]

this is your Daily
DR. JEKYLL HERB REMINDER

carry a HERB with you at all times in case you get the event to complete the task

[signal pecan]

yea, takes less than an hour with woodsman, doesnt seem too populated since rumors are far better xp

[latent socket]

Hyde is a task??
Aw hell naw

[analog current]

I feel like fishing clue drop rates are not boosted at all…

[signal pecan]

theres a black salamander task if you're in wildy too

[vapid silo]

I had jekyll spawn for me in the first hour and was happy to get a str pot for a task 😭 haven't seen him since...

[formal gulch]

Me when I had a Mr Hyde random but it was way too early into the game:

[covert wolf]

probably some people don't pick wildy

[latent socket]

[signal pecan]

relative to other spots in wildy its quiet

[cinder rune]

https://tools.runescape.wiki/demonic-pacts/?n=1-10-11-17-2-21-24-29-30-31-4-7 whats the move from here as a crossbow fanatic

[plain gazelle]

Wildy is so quiet

I love it

[analog current]

I love pking people that are at wildy bosses in leagues

[formal gulch]

If going crossbow, should go for a ballista.

[plain gazelle]

I went wildy, then desert, then asgarnia

[potent quail]

if wildy get echo weapon if K get ballista

[dusty axle]

is a mage build really that good? i have desert and kourend and it looks like everything has really high mage defense so im hesitant to spec into it

[plain gazelle]

Mage build is just easy because it comes online quickly

[formal gulch]

Yeeting javelin projectiles at a high speed at 9t but doing massive damage.

[plain gazelle]

It’s very easy to get mage gear and runes and level up

[opal hornet]

i chose blindbag first so im gonna go TMZ, But i feel like i need to respec into something to actually get me into some PvM to get more pacts.. .Any suggestions? 😒 i feel super weak currently, i have 10 pact points and at T6

[next dust]

heres an idea. toxic blowpipe, cerberus dagger build

[covert wolf]

wildy just seems safe because pvp death treated as pvm death meaning whoever kills you got nothing

so it's pointless

for pkers

[undone snow]

any lvl8+ mining star?

[analog current]

Its funny though

[plain gazelle]

Oh yeah I need a lvl 8 star

[analog current]

theres a runelite plugin for tracking stars

[plain gazelle]

What’s it called

[kind quail]

tracker probs has a few

[tacit oyster]

drive-by oneshots are always a thing. last league people doing 1 khopesh spec while running through

[sleek void]

What're the chances on a superior slayer monster?

[south pumice]

anyone know what was meant by range and mage pacts being checked in gauntlet/

[crimson sable]

Starminers

[formal gulch]

People can grief you or kill you to clear your spot in the wildy tho.

[kind quail]

website is more accurate

[low osprey]

They're looking to address this.

[kind quail]

and cant filter for leagues only

[sleek void]

I'm 75 kills into abby demons and would think I'd have gotten one already

[formal gulch]

But that also means you can rag ‘em back.

[next dust]

im now a dork

[plain gazelle]

Don’t see a plugin with that name

[latent socket]

Gz new bis

[covert wolf]

god cape gonna be so annoying

for a pact

[formal gulch]

Hah dork

[kind quail]

There si a T8 in shilo on 597

[formal gulch]

points and laughs

[potent quail]

can you share a non 40 point version?
so with the non extra nodes

[latent socket]

10 point version plox

[cobalt cloud]

did everyone else just get a free pact reset point just now?

[formal gulch]

Just get 40 points, ezpz

[next dust]

nah the buidld im using rn is garbage so clearly idk what im doing

[kind quail]

several hrs ago, it was fixed, because people make mistakes

[formal gulch]

Just need to do awakened Vard and the special leagues-only Jad challenge.

[potent quail]

ah okXD i was wondering do you normal attack with the dagger or only spec with it?

[next dust]

id say spec

[cobalt cloud]

ah, ok. in game made it sound like it just happened now

[formal gulch]

I saw SoloMission spec Vard with a dragon dagger, and it hit so many times.

[potent quail]

ok then light weapon mastery is not needed, like you have it right now

[cobalt cloud]

i knew it would happen, having a path of exile type league leads to error ofc XP

[formal gulch]

But I thought specs don’t proc additional hits.

Why did he hit so many times?

[next dust]

i mean the other does nothing

i guess this

[formal gulch]

Go thorns. Most OP build in the game.

[next dust]

and can prob spam specs with the blowpipe

no it is a canon event in this stuff, even in borderlands

that the class i choose is the worst after getting into it

every time

[formal gulch]

Not really.

You just need to believe.

[next dust]

im doing bows

[cobalt cloud]

I did go thorns low-key, didnt realize how easy xp from rock crabs would be

[cloud panther]

okie

[formal gulch]

Thorns also change exp based on your combat style.

[potent quail]

would you be willing to carry a hsield? i think you have more then enough nodes to get into thorns and the thorns healing

[cobalt cloud]

ranged seems a lil weird tho

[cloud panther]

after they update pacts the build I Was going for will have 295% accuracy increase

[austere mirage]

Is mage training affected by the league? Like 8x points ?

[cobalt cloud]

still works, but idk what type of melee xp it determines

[formal gulch]

295% more accuracy is insane.

Still not as OP as last leagues’ 100% accurate ranged weapons.

[meager solar]

What skill tree for echo cg? Someone share a pic. At work

[next dust]

whos updating pacts

[next dust]

you cant

with a bow

[formal gulch]

Jagex.

[opal hornet]

i wish we got more resets xD

[formal gulch]

[next dust]

bow has no healing this leagues

all of them strictly exclude it

[formal gulch]

You’ll get one for beating Huey once.

[cloud panther]

Jagex are adding 10% to every 15% accuracy pact and 10% to all 1% damage ones

[formal gulch]

Later this week.

[austere mirage]

We have 5 in total now

[livid slate]

We got 1 free one and a new unlockable is coming

[formal gulch]

In Thursday?

[potent quail]

i thought the buidl was drygore and dagger

[next dust]

thats another build idea

i might do

if i can do an echo on what i got

[opal hornet]

im just so lost with the builds , i think i just wasted a respec because i dont have woodsman relic

[unreal widget]

are they going to keep the dumb asgarnia task to equip all cerb boots

[potent quail]

ahy eah looking at that one right now^^^+

[formal gulch]

Drygore for high hp targets due to burn.

Toxic for everything else.

[livid slate]

Wait do you mean? Respecs are only for pacts, not relics

[next dust]

and toxic also heals with spec?

[livid slate]

Also, what relics/regions do you have? Maybe I can help?

[next dust]

spec spam toxic

never die

need str damage boosts tho lol

i dont have Fremmmmenik

[opal hornet]

yeah but woodmsan is good for sunlight hunter crossbow and i respecced into it so i could get some more pacts for blindbag later, i currently have TIR unlocked with 62 tasks away from Mory (respeccing into blindbag later)

[next dust]

mayb e drop the STR damage boosts LOL

[livid slate]

I went crossbow first to help kill amox initially and then respeced after I got Kandarin/Tir

[meager solar]

Melee isn’t the answer lol

[opal hornet]

Which crossbow should i get if i dont have woodsman?

[livid slate]

Crossbow Pacts + Sunlight Cross is a very solid early game build

[livid slate]

You can buy the normal hunter crossbow, but you still need hunter, just not as high

[next dust]

will crystal armour echo work with blowpipe?

[opal hornet]

i am at 56 hjunter (boosted)

[livid slate]

You need 50, I think

[potent quail]

https://tools.runescape.wiki/demonic-pacts/?n=1-10-11-12-13-135-136-139-14-140-141-145-146-15-162-163-19-2-22-24-25-32-33-34-38-39-5-7-71-72-74-79-8-82-83-84-85-86-88-9

this would be my version

attack with pipe for dps and spec regen
dagger for spec
have shield at all times for all the extra thorns damage and healing

you only have 1 prayer pen node though

[meager solar]

I think mage route would be best for echo cg?

[opal hornet]

okay ,and then i need kebbits for ammo?

[formal gulch]

I don’t think so.

[next dust]

shield?

blowpipe is 2 handed?

[potent quail]

is it=?

[livid slate]

Yeah, you'd need Kand for that

[next dust]

p sure

[livid slate]

Do you have Kand?

[opal hornet]

Nope

[potent quail]

ok nvm thenXD

[opal hornet]

i am going TMZ

[inland light]

whats fastest fairy ring with evil eye? fight caves?

[opal hornet]

because i want to respec back into melee when i have the stuff

[formal gulch]

Crystal armor + blessing affects only the following: specifically the bowfa, any melee weapon, and only powered staves.

[unreal widget]

p sure its sire tele

[inland light]

wow

[next dust]

like why does that not work with bows

[inland light]

really helpful thank you dude

[next dust]

cmon jagex

[inland light]

/dudette

[formal gulch]

Good question.

[next dust]

the armour blessing

let me use blessing with tbow lol

[formal gulch]

Well, it also affects crystal bows too.

So discount bowfa.

[next dust]

it already does without the blessing

[formal gulch]

Yeah.

[flint charm]

So no one can decant potions without desert?

[cloud panther]

soon all will pay

[next dust]

if you choose asgarnia

[formal gulch]

You should change course and take a region with a powered staff ahem Morytania ahem

[next dust]

you get sea shanty 2

[smoky raft]

the humble potion storage:

[next dust]

prif has a powered staff

and asgarnia

[spiral portal]

bro waited for t9 star to lower just for that to disappear. give me my 200 points

[next dust]

the staff from zulrah, and the one in void right

[cloud panther]

Varlamore has one

[next dust]

the void mace thing?

[formal gulch]

Yeah, but do they have something as awesome as the Lithic staff?

[cloud panther]

Varlamore powered staff from Doom

[smoky raft]

ayak is only good because of its attack rate

but all powered staves are 1t anyway

(well... not shadow)

[formal gulch]

The eye of Ayak isn’t as powerful because its damage gets lowered and only has -2 ticks in attack speed.

[fallow patrol]

are there any good guides for ranged builds?

[formal gulch]

Shadow is insane because it’s already awesome magic attack and accuracy gets boosted even further.

[smoky raft]

shoot boss

don't get shot

hope this helps

👍

[formal gulch]

With the Shadow, does the 3x multiplier mean that demonic pacts accuracy nodes are worth 3x as much?

[smoky raft]

still gets blown out the water by shadow quad

[formal gulch]

Really?

[inland light]

thorns or range nodes with water mage tank?

[formal gulch]

Thorns.

Wait, why ranged?

[inland light]

kourend, gotta have ranged eventually for cox

[cloud panther]

pretty sure most things get blown out of the water by shadow quad

[formal gulch]

Thorns have perfect accuracy (except when respecting melee immunities) no?

[smoky raft]

which makes me happy that I'm getting it soon but sad that I'm probably not getting it today

[cloud panther]

im lvling slayer now to get it

[oak trout]

for what? you'll be slapping everything regardless

especially with waters

[inland light]

for... olm 😄

i went thorns 😄

[oak trout]

weak to water, if you're using kandaring staff with waters it will slap olm

[formal gulch]

Especially with the accuracy node changes.

[smoky raft]

I am also currently levelling slayer to get it

[formal gulch]

10% bonus accuracy per damage node is nuts.

[toxic vortex]

Holy shit what an issues list

[smoky raft]

but I'm only at 90 rn and I have to go to work in like 2 hours

[potent quail]

maybe KW PRayair and ehco crossbow build?

[toxic vortex]

The buff to prayer pen is sick as well

[smoky raft]

I might get it tonight, depending on my luck with tasks

[formal gulch]

Like, I would be happy with just 5% bonus accuracy per 1% damage node as the only balance change.

[toxic vortex]

Makes is somewhat viable to only select two nodes

[oak trout]

you're missing the ice spells node to heal on kbd cbow hits

[cloud panther]

im only at 85% but I have nothing better to do all day

[smoky raft]

I'm just curious if it'll only apply to that style or for all styles

I have a few melee damage pacts jsut because they're in the way of the thorns capstone

[cloud panther]

looks like all styles

[formal gulch]

I wonder if there’s an accuracy roll cap?

[next dust]

can you use these for clue scrolls needing "rune platebody"?

[inland light]

did they already do an update? im hitting so hard

[oak trout]

I would say these are your minimum build reqs for that. dont think youd need air spells, i would consider adding thorns or something instead. then add accuracy/echo buffs

https://tools.runescape.wiki/demonic-pacts/?_gl=1*h9gx73*_gcl_au*MTk0NjczODAxNy4xNzc1NjE1NjU1&n=1-10-112-113-114-123-13-14-15-2-21-24-29-30-31-4-44-46-56-59-68-7-9

[potent quail]

unsure, they mentioned gilded items not working yet for black armor

[potent quail]

the idea of the build is entirely on the switch node

i rather drop the healing part then

[willow isle]

All these buffs dont drop till thursday do they?

[smoky raft]

does this node work with thorns? I feel like I've seen this answered before but I don't rember

[scenic garden]

correct

[potent quail]

that would be crazy good if it does lmao

no idea

[flint cloud]

anyone know if the charged staff in gauntlet counts as regening charges when attacking with it? before i waste my points lol

[scenic garden]

not currently

[willow isle]

Sadge thats way too far away for alot of people if they plan on making some pact tasks easier

[fallow shadow]

Are the "10% chance to heal on hit or thorns based on distance" points any good for a light weapon build since I'm gonna be at 1 tile 90% of the time?

[pure karma]

should i reset this with the free reset to get more crossbow damage? i could take the top path away and go all the way down to the bottom nodes.

[scenic garden]

I have a friend who has the regen pacts but isn't healing in gauntlet, but they said they're looking into mage and range pacts not working in gauntlet so could be fixed at some point

[plucky pine]

is wilderness medium diary completable?

im seeing u need between a rock schematic?

[mighty ingot]

whata actions don't work with alchemic divergence please?

[oak trout]

thats really gimmicky, your dps will be better if you can just camp the cbow

[plucky pine]

nvm seems to be auto completed

[pure karma]

wiki has a table

[smoky raft]

that task is autocomplet- oh you saw it

🎉

[oak trout]

but its all op, play the way thats most fun!

[scenic garden]

https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Transmutation_(Demonic_Pacts_League)

[potent quail]

for raw damage prayair should be more then cbow

[mighty ingot]

thanks a lot

[scenic garden]

woodsman getting buffed to auto bank bones from hunter is gonna be great

[oak trout]

should be but if you're switching from cbow, still gotta wait 7 ticks

air spells dps is better cuz its 3t not 7t, but swapping is delayed

[next dust]

new boots bis!

[potent quail]

so?

[scenic garden]

switching causes a 7t penalty?

[oak trout]

if you just attacked with a 7t cbow yes

[scenic garden]

just got those from my first hard clue lol

[oak trout]

not the switch itself

[next dust]

beats the mixed hide

[mighty ingot]

I haven't found which actions it won't work over like i am cutting tree but can't alchemic when doing it so? 😄

[scenic garden]

cbows are 7t?

[outer aurora]

does blisterwood spider interrupt endless harvbest?

[muted needle]

the leagues is fun and all but why is the droprates broken?

[scenic garden]

that's a bug, they're looking into it

[mighty ingot]

aaaah nice thanks cuz it sometimes work and sometimes it does not 😄

[scenic garden]

also doesn't work while fishing currently

[smoky raft]

oh you didn't hear? they turned off drops entirely. No more drops for the rest of leagues

[signal pecan]

specifically for you

[smoky raft]

yes specifically for you

[potent quail]

i attack once with both in 9 ticks

so the dps is the average of the 2: 42

but thats without the 25% extra damage both will get from switching -> so the real dps is 52.5 ish

in theory just staying with prayair is the same dps but this allows me to use a second style

[cursive edge]

lmao my +195% accuracy powered staff thorns build is going to become a +340% accuracy powered staff thorns build on wednesday

[scenic garden]

they gave me your drop rates, I just need to kills some bosses to use it

[potent quail]

prayair actually beeing this high dps over crossbow actually kinda ruins the buildXD

[cursive edge]

giga buff to my build lol

[flint path]

Whats the fastest money making w/out abundance? Just wanna be able to buy the crystal crown and still be able to buy Construction after

[potent quail]

time to drop some accuracy nodes and get some more damage nodes^^

[potent quail]

larcenist

basicly mandatory if you take T

[cursive edge]

oh did you end up playing the kb + air surge build?

[cursive edge]

ahah yeah i could grab a couple 1% dmg nodes instead, probably will

[potent quail]

no couldnt play at all the first 4 days of the league

[cursive edge]

gotta see numbers on awakened vardorvis first

[potent quail]

am still at the very beginning

t4 right now

[cursive edge]

ah ok

[thorny terrace]

im looking at this dude and all i can think is "ive been there, bro."

[next dust]

the classic teleports setup

[potent quail]

you willing to share your build?

[oak trout]

thats why i said its gimmicky, but if you enjoy it, it wil lhit hard af so go for it!

[feral vigil]

is there any interesting builds or things to look at for asgarnia/desert/kourend?

[flint path]

Okay and with the assumption I'm a stealing-enjoyer, whats the fastest? pickpocketing seems slow (for leagues) and just wanted to see if I'm missing something obvious

[potent quail]

KB is the echo weapon?
thats the obvious version of the build: infinite healing and infinite prayer and the 25% damage

i do not take wilderness though so my version uses heavy ballista

[next dust]

cant use construction cape to tp to hosidius because ive not visited kourend

uses kourend spellbook tp

[cursive edge]

ya sure.

https://dps.osrs.wiki?id=BrimhavenExplosiveFever

Loadout 1 is the goal setup, Loadout 2 is my current setup

[next dust]

can now use it

[potent quail]

elves give a lot of cash, still will take a while though it is a hard task

[indigo nimbus]

how i get dragon hunter wand before huey hide, what is this messed up drop rates 😭

[smoky raft]

I got my DHW while trying to get air orbs for a battlestaff lmao

I also got huey hides on my first kill for the pact point and never used them

[indigo nimbus]

i also got 3 tome of earths which about the same drop rate as dhw

no hides tho, wtf

[flint cloud]

i got 6 malediction shards from archaeologist before i got my odium. rng is rng lol

[indigo nimbus]

bruh

[smoky raft]

is there a way to fight the surface wildy bosses instanced or nah

[placid flower]

As someone coming from WoW it’s great to see how quick Jagex reacts to feedback this League.

[smoky raft]

to be fair that's 1/5 if you're solo

[indigo nimbus]

i am solo

[smoky raft]

oh

[scenic garden]

is there a shop for molten glass of am I gonna need to gather seaweed and sand for 100 light bulbs and unpowered orbs?

[smoky raft]

in that case, have you tried getting the drop

that usually helps for me

[indigo nimbus]

damn, i should have thought of that

trying now

[thorn marsh]

Charter Ship in Civitas..

[smoky raft]

charter ships sell sand and seaweed, so you won't have to gather it yourself at the very least

[thorn marsh]

Furnace isn't too far away, either..

[jolly spade]

Just died because im on mobile, and its popping up the fucking high scores instead of moving.

Can they add entity hider on mobile or fucking have an option to not spam look up highscores? The menu swapper is so bugged.

[scenic garden]

also is there a way to get a rune sword aside from 89 smithing or abyssal sire?

[potent quail]

only did a small change to loadaout 1, i do like the range nodes a lot so kept that

took the air node
and the healing on thorns node -> you are at range with powered staff, so that will add a ton, may be even worth taking both of them
https://dps.osrs.wiki?id=AvantoePorcelainFeet

[jolly spade]

Pretty sure you can only turn off bar entirely, so no loot pool

[normal tapir]

They should just give us like at least 10 resets if not unlimited. With how weak some builds are, itd be a damn shame if players got pidgeon holed playing something that they dont like and cant do dmg with

[smoky raft]

specifically a rune sword? or just any rune weap

[scenic garden]

need a rune sword for a clue

and a rune chestplate

[smoky raft]

regions?

[scenic garden]

but haven't looked up where to get the chestplate

[thorn marsh]

Clue scrolls..

[scenic garden]

just varlamore and karamja

[smoky raft]

then yeah only sire/smith

[scenic garden]

medium clues I hope or I just got softlocked

[thorn marsh]

Hard clues..

[smoky raft]

rune swords don't drop from clues

[scenic garden]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-crying-meme-doggo-crys-megan-soo-crying-dog-gif-5276199764143986284

[thorn marsh]

It's a Longsword..

Rune platebody, Rune plateskirt, and Rune Longsword at Twilight Temple..

I know that step because I was also locked on it for a whilte..

[smoky raft]

[cursive edge]

tbh tho with the 2 pray on tanking a 0, plus my flask of fervour for t8, i dont need any more prayer

[smoky raft]

I was lied to

[scenic garden]

do the trimmed and gilded versions count for emote clues?

[cursive edge]

I think with extra points I'd go for the extra 30% regen first off

adds more healing and a bit of dps

[smoky raft]

I was told "rune sword" and that is an entirely different item

[cursive edge]

then potentially another 30% overheal

but im not sure id really want that, 158 seems like plenty

[thorn marsh]

Just drop the clue if you can't do it.. Clue step counts persist between scrolls, so it's not a huge deal..

[potent quail]

i do really like both thorn healing nodes
https://dps.osrs.wiki?id=TalismanTerrifyingChocchip

[smoky raft]

you can get a rune long from red dragons, bronze dragons, and brutal blue dragons in var/kar

[cursive edge]

well thorns healing, lets say im at 9 range in an ideal case, thats 0.9 healing when i take a hit

[potent quail]

dont know how regen nodes interact with powered stave regen of runes

[cursive edge]

already healing more than that via blood fury, and then way more than that per sec from water regen

[smoky raft]

you can also just. Drop a clue scroll if you don't like the step

during leagues all scrolls of a tier share step count

[cursive edge]

so for water its 1hp per attack, then multiplied by regen chance

[smoky raft]

you won't lose any progress towards the casket

[cursive edge]

so currently its 115%, so i get 1.15hp on avg per tick (since i have 1t attack speed)

another 30% is 1.45hp per tick, big increase

[potent quail]

ah fair

[thorn marsh]

I drop the Elite step to dig inside the Hardwood Grove in Tai Bwo Wannai because I can't be bothered to get the trading sticks for it..

[cursive edge]

would give more healing than the thorns node

[potent quail]

mn blood furry is crazyXD

[cursive edge]

but i can always just grab both

yeah blood fury its 6% of my 18 thorns dmg healed on average

[scenic garden]

maybe the mystery box will have a rune sword

[cursive edge]

which is 1.08

[scenic garden]

20 nature runes

[kind quail]

I hate random event tasks, 4 bloody sandwitch ladies in a row

[potent quail]

could route over prayer pen to stuff
25% on them after update is nice

[cursive edge]

not sure if i need pray pen for anything at this point

[potent quail]

mory bosses dont have protection prayers though i think

[cursive edge]

the 15% i have is enough for doom which im grinding atm

ive finished CG

[potent quail]

yeah probably more of a desert thing

[cursive edge]

yeh

[smoky raft]

I have yet to get a single sandwich lady if it makes you feel any better

[scenic garden]

ooh that got me steel trophy

[cursive edge]

for awakened vardorvis ill need all of the accuracy still lol

not worth dropping any for that boss

if im done with it and just grinding tob, ill do a respec

[potent quail]

mhh and a second style doesnt make sense

because you are already so accurate

man powered staves are crazyXD

so few points needed

[amber gazelle]

are ring of recoils effected by the resource save?

[smoky raft]

they aren't weapons

so no

[cursive edge]

Might leave the tree like this, well see. The 5% chance to max roll accuracy per tile is super strong vs a lot of bosses that dont move

but maybe thats overkill

with +340% or so

[scenic garden]

[amber gazelle]

well says charged wepss as well and since they do damage they could vaguely be consider a weapon in a way

[smoky raft]

... that's a bit of a stretch

[thorn marsh]

It specifically says "Charges of charged weapons"..

Rings are not weapons..

[scenic garden]

the game doesn't work on semantics

[amber gazelle]

i mean if someone punched you with a ring on does it hurt more?

[smoky raft]

not in game, at least

in real life rings can very much be weapons

[kind quail]

I am yet to see a a second leo or mime and both of them gave emotes

[amber gazelle]

ik im just jking around now

[cursive edge]

yeppp. I truly think its the best build in the league lol. In terms of all around capability. Tons of DPS, tons of AoE dps from thorns + echo gg staff, tonss of healing from thorns blood fury, water regen, and eventual sang staff

[thorn marsh]

consume charges with a charged weapon

[smoky raft]

I

yeah

yeah I'm aware

[potent quail]

you are KTM?

[old tapir]

hey, ring of suffering is a deadly weapon

[cursive edge]

Nah WTM

[amber gazelle]

sad they didn't add avernic brass knuckles as a echo weapon. Lets you attach every ring to it for an insane buffed punch

[cursive edge]

Wildy is busted for it too, cause theres no good mage shields outside wildy

Maledication/Arcane is a huge boost, and then mage arena cape, and accursed sceptre for specs on tanky bosses

[potent quail]

ah ok
but wouldnt trident be very nice for the build?

[cursive edge]

and accursed itself goes insane in all wildy content lol

[thorn marsh]

Yay for me just completely misreading what you said.. Sorry.. I'm very tired.. ;_;

[smoky raft]

as far as I'm concerned the dragonfire shield is a mage shield

[cursive edge]

I already get toxic trident from Zulrah

but Sanguiinesti is BiS, once i get to tob

[old tapir]

ward?

[smoky raft]

just got a jar of dirt!!!!!!!!

[thorn marsh]

Congrats..

[cursive edge]

not sure your question 😛

[old tapir]

anyway, real mages are using devil's element anyway

[cursive edge]

elidinis?

[frank thistle]

dumb question: are people fletching their bows to get them? or is there like a shop somewhere to get them?

[smoky raft]

elidinis ward gives shit all def bonuses, which thorn REALLY wants

[cursive edge]

it has 0 defenses without wildy

so you'd rather a DFS probably

[timid void]

are the league changes coming on the update on the 23rd or is it like a hotfix

[scenic garden]

can also get them from clues, but fletching is easy with woodsman

[smoky raft]

most likely with the update

[timid void]

ty

[cursive edge]

but yeah i use so many powered staves lol. Accursed for specs + all wildy content, Ayak for specs on some bosses, Trident as my all rounder (sang will replace it), and lithe sceptre for AoE and some situations where you want typeless damage

[old tapir]

changes are making me pretty excited to go for amox as a mage

[scenic garden]

is ayak the only powered staff in varlamore?

[cursive edge]

Tumekens would also be good if theres a boss forcing you to move constantly

since you dont lose dmg for moving

[cursive edge]

i did amox yesterday and did 15-20s kills lol

11s record

tho with flask of fervour

no wait 10s record

[timid void]

was hoping the changes would be today to speed up my echo hunleff kills getting 1min kills but 185 kc no enh so far

[potent quail]

what was your early routing?
going thorns first and then later powered staves?

[cursive edge]

early routing was crossbows actually

[potent quail]

oh you respecced?

[cursive edge]

full crossbow tree, got KBD wep

to kill zulrah with that

[potent quail]

yeah makes sense

[cursive edge]

then once i got trident i respecced

otherwise i wouldve had to do zulrah with a bowfa and no ranged pacts and that seemed like hot ass

also crossbows get a ton of power very quick

worked out great

[potent quail]

its kinda funny my plan is the exact opposite with KTZ

start with powered staves, get warped scepter
Then later respecc into crossbow with heavy ballista

[cursive edge]

yeah if K you can go early powered staves

but since K didnt fit into my ideal endgame build

preferred to just go crossbows early and avoid the need for K

[potent quail]

still i am frustrated

my build is pointless because prayair mage alone is stronger then my dual build version

[cursive edge]

well

pray air mages have to cast water surge now and then right

wait nvm

youre not going KB

[potent quail]

yeah healing was not solved for me yetXD

[cursive edge]

my 2nd choice for build was max hit KB + air surge, but i dont switch every single attack cause that sounds like a lot of efort

so my plan was camp air surge, and KB swap is my heal swap

[potent quail]

https://dps.osrs.wiki?id=KarambwanHonourableWeapons

[cursive edge]

just swap when i need to heal

rather than casing a shitty water surge, i bang a 100 with KB

[potent quail]

idea was only use flask for healing

[cursive edge]

and then get a 25% buff to my next air surge

flask isnt enough

i mean

it is, if youre good

but like

generally more healing will def help

[potent quail]

solid burn

[cursive edge]

ahah im burning myself

i have flask

but still need the powered staff healing

and thorns healing

[covert wolf]

where to find small net?

[old tapir]

if you can't do 6 jads without overheads, your build doesn't have enough healing

[cursive edge]

when I get sang staff my healing is gonna go ballistic lol

[potent quail]

yeah may drop my crossbow plan and jsut copy faux and go prayair + thorns

[cursive edge]

and the extra 30% regen

faux is powered staff + thorns

[old tapir]

actually, didn't woox do that

[cursive edge]

similar to me, but with light melee offstyle and no wildy

[old tapir]

we can't all be woox

[cursive edge]

I do think my build is better 🙂 particularly with the upcoming accuracy changes

no need for offstyle, and wildy gives way more to the build than K

[covert wolf]

gonna run my way to port piscarilius to buy then

[old tapir]

glyphic attenuation stonks going up

afking radiant oathplate the build

[covert wolf]

i'm in danger

30 quetzal feed only for 40 rumour done

[scenic garden]

feeling that too

[covert wolf]

guess i leave it behind and come back when i need more points

[old tapir]

didn't praise yama enough for good luck

foolish ironman

come to beg at the altar of greed without a sacrifice

[scenic garden]

wonder what they had to offer him to give us a free pact reset

first borns?

[covert wolf]

people complaining is what some say

[old tapir]

they had to delay tempestus for another 6 months

we're never going to venicescape

[covert wolf]

i actually messed up because i though i can reset the pact everyday

but then i got one last chance from 3rd echo boss

[tranquil hound]

can you do faux's build with desert? i was going ranged but getting cold feet

[covert wolf]

fixed that and then another free pact come in clutch

[scenic garden]

you've already used 4 resets?

[covert wolf]

2 reset

i think it's 3 now probably

idr

[brazen chasm]

well were getting 1 more, and just got 1 for free so

[scenic garden]

that's 5 max, so over half done the resets for the entire league lol

[covert wolf]

lets just say i used up all the possible reset chance ever exist then another free one came in randomly

[scenic garden]

there's still nearly a month to go

[covert wolf]

i'm just bad at this it's my first league

also i haven't play this game for whole year yet

[glacial ridge]

fastest thieving xp? wildy-asgarnia-kandarin

[brazen chasm]

pretty much any build can do any content in the game because its all base game content outside of echo fights. You really dont need to reset that much lol

maybe reset for cheesing cg i could see if you hate the red prison

[scenic garden]

I have crippling skill issues so I'll probly need a couple

[near magnet]

where can i get addy platelegs only got varl/karamja

[old tapir]

tzhaar gem stall

with and without larcenist

[scenic garden]

think the smith near civ tele sells them

[glacial ridge]

what makes it better than ardy knight? and if i dont have larcenist why is it not goto in maingame?

[old tapir]

but without larcenist you'll have to trap the nearest guard on the opposite end of the stall

[boreal basin]

have people solved crafting yet? this one seems to be a pain

[smoky raft]

well that took forever

[old tapir]

because stall respawn times are massively reduced in the league even without larcenist

and that puts it over ardy knights

[scenic garden]

gems or get larcenist and do crystal singing

[glacial ridge]

oooooh ok

[old tapir]

i was pushing 3mil xp/h last league but it does involve alot of dropping gems lol

[glacial ridge]

nice xp

[boreal basin]

dont think im going elf land so gems it is...diamonds are getting pretty slow though

[thorn plover]

Are the perilous moons Best in Slot for each style before Karamja?

[covert wolf]

so what's the chance to get mature tecu salamander?

[smoky raft]

can technically get virtus in varlamore

[scenic garden]

if you have transmute you can turn those into dragonstones then sell to general store in civ (I'm told)

[smoky raft]

virtus is better than blue moon

[glacial ridge]

probably, but if ur going asgarnia id probably hold off gear until void

[old tapir]

they're bis until you start doing big scary endgame bosses

slash raids

[scenic garden]

~1/200

or whenever your rng wants to work

[boreal basin]

i may have to do this

[scenic garden]

I haven't tried selling to general store but I'm told they sell for ~4k each

[grand lotus]

I think with our extra membership money jagex should invest in a grammarly subscription

Grimoire isn't unlock certain spells (Ourania, NPC Contact, etc) TO BE COLDFIXED

Soul Shards aren't working when trying to creating Sunfire Runes. TO BE COLDFIXED

Reports of Flask of Fervour's cooldown not bein reduced with Blindbag or Ranged Echoes TO BE INVESTIGATED

Reports of Connviving Clues not adhering to the 'no items requried for emote steps' with the Sunfire Fanatic & Bow clue.

[mighty zodiac]

Do you use up the orb if you fight the echo boss

[cursive edge]

yooo got avernics! just need conflictions and im done

[scenic garden]

no

I'm told it's inf

[potent quail]

proof its handwritten and not corrected by ai

[smoky raft]

oh no! the medieval clicker game is not getting professional grade update notes

[scenic garden]

burn it down!

everyone start lighting fires

[limpid patio]

Its a paid service, its release date is irrelevant.

[glacial ridge]

fastest afk endless harvest mining?

[smoky raft]

what I'm trying to say is that it really doesn't fuckin matter

[glacial ridge]

if theres a spot that gives more smithing xp with hootfot better

[vagrant acorn]

Iron, and if glory charged then gem rocks

[latent oracle]

Is best slayer xp taking boss tasks and doing 5kc for xp lump?

[vagrant acorn]

If you want smithing then its iron

[glacial ridge]

ty

[toxic vortex]

unless you have asgarnia, which case I would probably say amethyst

although I wonder if iron is still better

[smoky raft]

assuming you can get to and kill the assigned boss quickly, yes

[grand lotus]

Proof it’s outsourced to Bangladesh maybe

[glacial ridge]

does it give smithing? got asgarnia, wildy and kandarin

[potent quail]

what

[toxic vortex]

Oh, I read mining not smithing

Sorry, early day for me

[old tapir]

huge https://i.imgur.com/dnkDwj6.png

[vagrant acorn]

Iron is much better with endless, barbarian is better than endless harvest on amethyst though

[glacial ridge]

nah all good, i wrote mining, but also got hotfoot so i want gihest smithing xp/hr

[toxic vortex]

probably iron tbh. maybe mith

[scenic garden]

I've known at least 100 people who make that many spelling mistakes regularly and their primary language is english, calm down lol

[vagrant acorn]

https://www.reddit.com/r/2007scape/s/9e84IU9i3U

Fastest methods for each skill with endless harvest or barbarian gathering

[fair swallow]

Wait did everyone get a free reset?

[undone crystal]

honestly the whole thing is silly anyway, limited resets to begin with is troll should allow people to try many builds and have fun

[vagrant acorn]

Yes

[fair swallow]

Sickkk

[glacial ridge]

do u know if barb fishing gives cooking xp with hotfoot? if not what should i fish

[vagrant acorn]

It does not. Karambwans give lots of cooking xp though

[covert wolf]

at least give me a chance for actual big tecu jeez

[glacial ridge]

81 fishing and 93 cooking, dont need high cooking xp, need fastest fishing that gives cooking

[scenic garden]

I would have preferred having a few pact presets with 3 resets, but I don't think most people will need all 3 resets. It might have been nice to have unlimited with most users not being used to the PoE style tree, but it's workable.

[vagrant acorn]

I assume flyfishing then, but I'm not sure

[glacial ridge]

ty boss

[covert wolf]

ok another tecu rumour

3rd one back to back

[noble robin]

what does kandarin bring for a crossbow/thorns build?

[undone crystal]

presets would be nice too 100%, maybe leagues 7

[toxic vortex]

I want bank/inventory presets first

and in main game

[buoyant bolt]

Anyone not getting slayer tasks related to kandarin even though the area is unlocked, no spectres, bloodveld, ankou ect, only jellies and cockatrice in terms of slayer mobs

[vagrant acorn]

Anguish for ranged, suffering for thorns

[vagrant acorn]

Get them occasionally its just a lot of shit tasks, takes a lot of skipping

[warped turtle]

does mortyania have to complete sins of the father?

[vagrant acorn]

Yes

[urban skiff]

does anyone know how huey drops work? is it still split between all the players so if you want a dhw you want to solo?

[buoyant bolt]

Pretty poorly designed tbh

[noble robin]

Thanks! what is the optimal locations to unlock for crossbow/thorn build?

[vagrant acorn]

I agree, dont like how they did the relic and how some tasks are randomly not there, like naguas

[scenic garden]

if you want drops in mass, you need to do enough damage for drops then hit the drop thresholds for uniques. probly better to solo.

[scenic garden]

known bug

[buoyant bolt]

Yeah the weighting is an issue to, cows, birds, hill giants at level 113 come on lol

[urban skiff]

i deal enough damage, but to my knowledge in main game it rolls for a unique, then rolls for the player who gets it, is it different in leagues?

[scenic garden]

shouldn't be

[urban skiff]

ah i had it slightly wrong

it goes off the base drop rate, then multiplies based on the damage you deal

[grand lotus]

Oh yeah? Prove it. Name all 100.

[scenic garden]

no

[urban skiff]

so if you do a 20th of the damage, you roll the base drop rate times your portion of damage, 1/(21*20) for wand

[scenic garden]

is that why I can't get leather with my fire battlestaff

[reef quarry]

I wonder if they will buff stuff like the Cerberus fang seems so underpowered compared to kandarin

[cursive edge]

the accuracy changes kinda buff it more than other builds

[pale fern]

hi guys I unlocked the 3rd region but I'm a noob at this whole leagues thing which region would be best to get gear for a mage build?

[cursive edge]

it needed accuracy badly

[vagrant acorn]

Its pretty good with the right build

[exotic cave]

what's a good way to get bolts for rcb? only got starting areas + Wildy besides smithing

[bitter quail]

(In league) : I am building a blindbag build with 2 hand (dual wield, macha, temotli, etc) weapons to proc ranged echo + blind bags.
I only speced into blind bags for now and i'm undecided to go for blindbag + thorns or full blindbag + ranged echoes.

for thorns I would need a 4 tick > 1kg weapon with good dps there aren't many ....
Have any of you thought about those options or have an opinion or where to go from there? 🙂

[urban skiff]

it seems like the maximum it is split by is 20, so if you want to get 1 hide drop in mass the actual drop rate is 1/100 XD

[scenic garden]

you won't be able to use thorns with 2h

unless you're gonna use a heavy 1h + shield

[bitter quail]

yeah for thorns I would switch with heavy 4 tick 1h + shield . that's what i'm undecided

[glacial ridge]

Can anyone help complete my list or change if anything is wrong for solving every skill? pref fastest methot if its not Butlers Bell
Areas: Asgarna-Kandarin-Wildy
Relics:Endless Harvest, Hotfoot, Evil Eye, Butlers bell, Soul harvest, Culling spree, reloaded inte clues relic

Mining: Iron rocks
Fishing/Cooking: Fly fishing
Woodcutting: Teak trees
Farming: Bagged plants in POH
Construction: Bagged plants in POH
Agility: just running around
Thieving: Tzhaar Gem stall
Smithing: Butlers Bell
Herblore: Butlers Bell
Crafting: Butlers Bell
Fletching: Butlers Bell
Prayer: Soul harvest
Runecrafting: Soul harvest
Slayer:
Hunter:
Firemaking:

[urban skiff]

where you getting money for bagged plants?

[glass hornet]

Only one that comes to mind is tentacle

[bitter quail]

tentacle is light weapon though :/

[glacial ridge]

is it that expensive? im alching, got atleast 20m

[amber gazelle]

is there a nex max world for leagues? or would anyone here want to nex

[bitter quail]

The best heavy 1h seems like cg blade but I don'T want to take that zone. 2nd best would be Arkan Blade .... that would be awkward as a endgame weapon haha

[scenic garden]

what have you been alching to get 20m?

[urban skiff]

50k each bagged magic tree, base xp is 223 in each

[marsh dust]

anyone want to do trouble brewing quickly?

[glass hornet]

OH. I thought you meant under 1kg mbmb

[bitter quail]

yeah finding good 1h weapon under 1kg is easier haha

[urban skiff]

3300 magic trees from 75 to 99 farming/con at 50000 each is... 165,000,000

[hazy anvil]

How are people training their off style combats? I'm a ranged user and so far I've just been at gem crab for melee

[urban skiff]

that's if you buy em 1 by 1 as well

[glacial ridge]

wildy drops, alot of bossing = alot of alchs

[wraith thorn]

anyone wanna do wildy bosses with me?

[pale fern]

are there alot of people pking in the wildy? I'm still trying to decide my 3rd region

[wraith thorn]

all wildy deaths are pvm deaths

[glass hornet]

Some include sara sword, bludgeon, zammy spear

[glacial ridge]

ive come across 1 only, been there for 2 days

[wraith thorn]

so even if they kill you all it does it annoy you for 10 seconds

[pale fern]

I just wanna get gear without getting griefed lol

[glacial ridge]

didnt really get this, can u explain what u mean

[inner zenith]

dya still need a task to use echo orb aginst thermy?

[pale fern]

oo ok

[wraith thorn]

you can also mass wildy bosses

which makes farming the drops much easier

since everyone gets a drop

[urban coyote]

Whoever said Gem Stall for Larc for Gold...

IMO Spices seem much better.

[glacial ridge]

nvm got what u meant now, sry im slow

[urban skiff]

3300 magic trees to get to 99 con, they cost 50k each from tree store, multiply that and you get 165m

[glacial ridge]

did u calculate with 16x?

[urban skiff]

yes

[toxic vortex]

why

[glacial ridge]

what if i use a lower tier tree?

[glacial ridge]

what if i use a lower tier tree?

[drowsy gulch]

Does the crystal bow have the echoes as well?

[potent quail]

is there a plugin to make the map of alacricity tps a bit easier to understand?

[urban coyote]

If you're not cutting, Spices seems to be higher GP/h.

[pure karma]

are slayer masters the only source of rune pouches?

[toxic vortex]

better teleport menu I think its called

[toxic vortex]

They sell for that much?

Never knew

[urban skiff]

i dunno, you can do the calcs yourself with the skill calculator plugin on runelite

[clever vine]

What kind of mage gear can i use with tirawynn/karamja?

[errant mulch]

any1 know which world for raids? or any1 wanna tob?

[urban coyote]

Spice sells for 161~ (According to Wiki)

Uncut gems are:
Sapphire: 17
Emerald: 35
Ruby: 70
Diamond: 140

You're averaging a lot more via Spices.

[glacial ridge]

ty

[hasty seal]

Can’t decide if I want to grind out 50m hunter or unlock my first zone

[glacial ridge]

Can anyone help complete my list or change if anything is wrong for solving every skill? pref fastest methot if its not Butlers Bell
Areas: Asgarna-Kandarin-Wildy
Relics:Endless Harvest, Hotfoot, Evil Eye, Butlers bell, Soul harvest, Culling spree, reloaded inte clues relic

Mining: Iron rocks
Fishing/Cooking: Fly fishing
Woodcutting: Teak trees
Farming: Bagged plants in POH
Construction: Bagged plants in POH
Agility: just running around
Thieving: Tzhaar Gem stall
Smithing: Butlers Bell
Herblore: Butlers Bell
Crafting: Butlers Bell
Fletching: Butlers Bell
Prayer: Soul harvest
Runecrafting: Soul harvest
Slayer:
Hunter:
Firemaking:

[potent quail]

but like cant you jsut use the vendor
buy gems
cut and sell?
crafting exp to 70 ez and like 500k cash

[hasty seal]

Doing the whole grind again seems like no fun lol. I could always just do normal hunter instead of rumors as well…

[wraith thorn]

dont steal from stalls for money if you have larcenist?

npcs give a lot more gp

[glacial ridge]

whats plugin called exactly? not finding it

[urban coyote]

I only have the first zone unlocked, and I'm AFK working.

I'd still need to open coin pouches AFAIK.

[pale fern]

oo okay prob will pick wildy cus I need a powered staff

[noble robin]

what locations would be best for a crossbow/thorns build?

[hasty seal]

Gems are completely afk tho

[potent quail]

you do some thieving for points beforehand

[urban skiff]

Skill Calculator, it adds a button to your sidebar

[wraith thorn]

If you can click once every 5 minutes you're making a lot more gp

[pure karma]

ty for this, gonna go buy 10000 bagged plants

[wraith thorn]

Even off wealthy citizens (720gp per)

[urban coyote]

Thats too much clicking when I have actual work to do. I'd rather AFK.

[wraith thorn]

Okay, you can afk for up to 30 minutes yes

So with spices (and having to sell them), you're earning 5x less than pickpocketing wealthy citizens (which isnt even the best option)

[thick palm]

is there a world for doing nightmare?

[wraith thorn]

So

If you can click once every 20 minutes, it's better to pickpocket than do stall

[pale fern]

oh snap did jagex listen to feedback

and provide a free reset?

[fleet jungle]

Echo Mox is basically a free reset but this is nice

[hasty seal]

Yama provided it, not jagex

[scenic garden]

didn't you just ask this like 10 mins ago?

[pale fern]

no I did not this is the first time I've asked this

literally just came on here 10 mins ago lol

[wraith thorn]

well there's another free reset coming, so one today and one later on

[scenic garden]

not free unless you already did the heuy kill

[potent quail]

wdym

[hasty seal]

Nope it’s another

[pale fern]

I didn't do any tasks tho since last night

I remember reading a reddit post last night too about ppl asking for a freebie reset

[noble robin]

what locations would be best for a crossbow/thorns build?

[craggy geyser]

does thorns work vs huey?

[scenic garden]

Secondly for later this week, we are also going to give another unlockable reset. This one will be everyone's first 'extra' reset as we're adding this onto the 'Defeat Hueycoatl 1 Time' task. Anyone that has already done this task will have the reset added after this week's game update.

[glacial ridge]

slayer question, got the relic: whats fastest slayer xp? is it a 5 boss task or a 200 superiour task?

[potent quail]

lol called it

[hasty seal]

That’s later this week

[scenic garden]

yes I know

[hasty seal]

They also added a free one today

[scenic garden]

it says later this week right there

[potent quail]

😄

[hasty seal]

Read before that part

[potent quail]

also 5000bone shards from mining

jump from 34 -> 65 prayer
nice

[pale fern]

time to look up a proper build now 😄

[scenic garden]

I wasn't referring to the free one today

[potent quail]

we all got a free one today

we all get a second one with that update.

[scenic garden]

can you guys please read the whole conversation

[pure karma]

can we solo tob with our endgame builds?

[potent quail]

a hue kill is free

but thats semantics

[hasty seal]

I see what you were replying to now

But also no

[toxic vortex]

yes

[urban path]

do they have any intention of making it so you dont have to do the mory diaries to get a "'ghost speak amulet" i cba doing all this stuff for it to get added later

[scenic garden]

you still need the gear to not die and deal enough damage to get the kill for the task, so not quite free

[wraith thorn]

ye

[toxic vortex]

they are trying to fix it, yes

[scarlet spoke]

any pest control world?

[potent quail]

mhh do you need to get participation rewards?

[fresh kayak]

I cant get the filling a spool with 10k bowstrings to work. When i do it, it doesnt complete. I tried checking the spool too.

[craggy geyser]

i just put 10500 bowstrings on it (10000 went on 500 remain) and it counted instantly

maybe u need to go 1 "above it" or sth

[noble robin]

what locations would be best for a crossbow/thorns build?

[scenic garden]

yes, you need to have qualified for any drop for the task to count

[potent quail]

wilderness has the echo crossbow weapon

[potent quail]

ok that sucks

wait isnt it like 50 damage

🤔

[hasty seal]

Is there a place to use thorns in varlamore or karamja

[craggy geyser]

noob question cuz i have pretty much 0 pvm experience: does thorns work against huey? i joined a mass for like 2 kills on my no-gear-blindbag-build and took very little damage (but also didnt deal enough xd yesyes selfreport) so idk if there is much to reflect if i respec

[fresh kayak]

that worked

[pure karma]

colo is free

[scenic garden]

feel like I did more than 50 damage and didn't qualify on some kills

[noble robin]

That crossbow is 2handed though. and doesn't allow for thorns to activate

[hasty seal]

Can you just afk it kinda like fight caves?

[pure karma]

as long as you have healing

[hasty seal]

I feel like gem crab is a waste of the air

Oh yeah I don’t lol

[potent quail]

then zaryte crossbow with onyx bolts?
or rune/dragon crossbow

[light nacelle]

Is the canoe system being broken in Kandarin a known issue? - I don't see it in the news post

[hasty seal]

I’ve definitely seen people mention it a lot so probably known

[light nacelle]

What would be the appropriate channel to report it in though?

[scenic garden]

yeah thorns isn't gonna work well for huey. go get some gear for blindbag

[drowsy gulch]

Sorry, for repeating my question, but does Crystal bow works with the echoe perks?

[craggy geyser]

tyty

[scenic garden]

does it use charges?

[hasty seal]

I’ll probably just wait on stuff I can’t do tbh. I can unlock 2 more zones already. Just saving for rumors

[covert wolf]

seems like not long

it's wood cutting time

also red wood doesn't offer forestry event right?

there's a task of getting felling axe

[limpid patio]

Correct

Are there any things i can claim when unlocking Kandarin and Tirannwyn?

[covert wolf]

50 rumour done only 37 quetzal feed

[craggy geyser]

forestry event bark wasnt multiplied when i tried, so going for that will take aaaages... you're better off getting bark from fletching totems

[covert wolf]

rest in peperoni

[limpid patio]

Did you do the highest tier rumours?

[covert wolf]

have around 3k now so pretty much doable before wc gone 99

[covert wolf]

apparently spamming teco one

[craggy geyser]

that surprises me, i was getting super little

[covert wolf]

because of fast rumour done

[craggy geyser]

have a few k now from doing totems to get 5 spools though

[storm mantle]

anyone ever have an issue where it doesnt let you telegrab items

? it keeps saying you cant do that right now

[dapper matrix]

At what kc is enhanced supposed to drop in leagues?

[clever vine]

What kind of melee/mage gear can i use before moons gear? have tirawynn

[wraith thorn]

1/80 on average, no dry mechanic tho

[dapper matrix]

ah ok 83 kc only 4 armor seed, was hoping atleast the armor seeds would be done zzzz

[wraith thorn]

buddy of mine got enhanced on 125 kc and finished armor seeds about 135kc

[cursive glacier]

And forestry basket

[wraith thorn]

had 14 weapon seeds lol

[void garden]

Does anyone know if you die at echo hespori you lose everything?

I have no gravestone and death has nothing for me

ahh nvm forgot to collect

[supple minnow]

lol

[covert wolf]

i don't like where this is going

[supple minnow]

what

[wary egret]

How do hotfoot boots not count as warm clothing? Tf

[craggy geyser]

they're only hot on the outside, duh

[supple minnow]

wuz dis

[covert wolf]

ttalk to the guy next to the cave

[covert wolf]

vale totem offerings

[void garden]

yeah i totally forgot lmaoo ty

[covert wolf]

actually i forgot these offering gives the anima bark too

a little boost there

[supple minnow]

how so mny

[urban path]

any tob worlds going?

[covert wolf]

i think i open like 20

actually not gonna open this for now

gonna focus on getting farming 90

probably gonna give me red wood seed latetr

[wary egret]

Is there a WT world that’s not 666?

[supple minnow]

accord 8 alotments, snape insta 90

[covert wolf]

i can actually max if i spend 1 hour in tithe farm

[supple minnow]

same

[urban coyote]

Right I did a test. I am fairly sure you're wrong.

Pickpocketing Wealthy I got around 284,000~ in 10mins.

Stealing Spice I am at 300k already in less then 4mins.

[covert wolf]

i mean

[supple minnow]

i took mory and asgarn for upgrades tho

[covert wolf]

it's because i have nature's accord

have 10x multi

[supple minnow]

they did the math ^

rigorous math

[urban coyote]

I was curious. :^)

I feely crafted that Spice was better vs Gems, and someone tried to tell me pickpocketing was 5x better if not more, and that felt wrong. Lol

[supple minnow]

handed out receipts

[covert wolf]

time to go tithe farm i guess

[supple minnow]

so when i was racing for top merch place in brighter shores

[covert wolf]

tithe farm then back to woodcutting + fletching

[supple minnow]

people were tossing out these numbers before doing merch routes

[covert wolf]

thatt's gonna be my route

[supple minnow]

and i was logging metrics for hours

hard objective data wins every time

[urban coyote]

Im pretty sure pickpocketing elves is obviously better.

But I dont have the area unlocked.

[covert wolf]

pickpocketing elves has additional benefit

of getting smithing and crafting exp

[toxic vortex]

and just tons of gp too

[urban coyote]

My crafting is alreayd at 95 from my butler.

[covert wolf]

tell your butler to max your herblore

[toxic vortex]

yeah but now you can focus butler elsewhere

[covert wolf]

that's what i did kinda

[scenic garden]

what's this red skull someone had?

[craggy geyser]

i wanted to go prif for the elves but i dont wanna do cg :c

[supple minnow]

i need torags for my 3rd bag wep

[rare hollow]

fight caves winner

[urban coyote]

I need to go do actual things that progress my pacts and stuff.

[rare hollow]

good move im suffering in echo cg rn

[toxic vortex]

fight pits winner

[rare hollow]

oh yes pits

[scenic garden]

yea I've never gotten that from jad lol

[rare hollow]

its just 10 steps away from the jad entrance

[wraith thorn]

you said spice sells for 161gp, wealthy citizens give 720gp per pickpocket (not including coin pouches)

[near magnet]

any tips for levelling rc quickly? i have varl/karamja and 8k pure ess.

[keen stone]

cry and walk

[shadow ibex]

I lost my echo orb when dying to Vardorvis (Checked all locations and its nowhere to be claimed)

Should i be able to re-obtain it or would the game think i still have it?

[fickle thistle]

Just beat my first echo boss

So happy

[scenic garden]

also what's the point of the red skull? is it more dangerous to do a consecutive fight pit after or smth?

[storm mantle]

huge gz

[fickle thistle]

Gotta grind it for the drop tho

[regal spindle]

Using water spells to heal but i need to use fire spells against zulrah. Any reccomendstions? Does a pact allow non water spells to heal? I know the kandarin echo items but not sure what else could help

[next dust]

wonder if theres enough casuals that picked bad Relics and theyll give 1 reset, or remove one lol

[regal spindle]

They did give 1 free reset

[next dust]

given they gave the pact reset

no for one relic hah

[regal spindle]

Ohhh

[wraith thorn]

Just use water spell

[urban coyote]

And you get 10x per steal so you're making 1,610 per action~

Feel free to test it yourself if you want :^) I just did it. I made 284k from Pickpocketing Wealthy in 10mins.

I got close to 5000~ Spices in the same time which would sell for roughly 800,000.

[wary walrus]

637 cave horrors for a black mask, ridiculous...

[scenic garden]

blood spells would be the only other option, or sang staff

[regal spindle]

Should i just hide during tanzanite phase or should i bring blue dhide and crystal bow? Gear is very bad

[scenic garden]

do you have overheads?

[regal spindle]

I have the prayer

[wraith thorn]

Imo people should just try and do as much non combat stuff as possible and tick off all regions + easy pact points

You are severely 'normal' powered for a long time, it's not like the other leagues

I only truly felt powerful once I had more than 20 pact points

[craggy geyser]

below normal i'd even argue, due to gear

[wraith thorn]

Yeah, forgot about the 10x 🙂

[wraith thorn]

definitely

[serene quiver]

unless ur melee build then u need more than 20 imo

melee so lackluster this league atm

[near magnet]

for someone like me thats super casual and wants to try end game pvm, with limited play time, this sucks

[wraith thorn]

I running crossbow build and it only all 'clicked' at 27

[wraith thorn]

you have 8 weeks, you can get there tbf

[scenic garden]

I couldn't help but think the entire melee tree seemed incredibly underwhelming, even before league started and we started to figure out how things worked

[craggy geyser]

depends which melee build? i believe thorns gets "good" way faster, but sth like blindbag relies hard on gear etc

[wraith thorn]

make sure you have the afk relics and you can easily knock out so many skilling tasks / points afk

[urban coyote]

So essentially.

Spice > Gems/Wealthy when you have no other region unlocked for Gold.

[serene quiver]

blindbag % needs increasing imo

[wraith thorn]

even my 27+ pact point crossbow build isn't THAT good

[keen stone]

i keep hearing people say this and its turning me off from hitting dragon this time. im already super annoyed by the bosses in varlamore being melee focused

[pale fern]

is thammaron's sceptre a good choice for my first powered staff?

[balmy shadow]

is morty region pick alone enough to justify taking larc?

[serene quiver]

im waiting for mass Nightmares to come about

[scenic garden]

15-25% is such a poor proc rate for it

[wraith thorn]

larc is good if you dont have any other money making relics

[serene quiver]

and Tob Zzzz

[wraith thorn]

i can do either if you want

[balmy shadow]

cause im stuck at which relic to reloaded into

[serene quiver]

literally; sometimes i go a full boss fight without it proc'ing

[scenic garden]

give us like 30-50% rate on blind bag so we can feel powerful for a couple months

[serene quiver]

i might be down later; just getting some tasks done

[wraith thorn]

boringgggggg

[next dust]

yh i am thinking i shouldve reloaded into natures accord now tho tbh

[craggy geyser]

i took larc for blood shards and elves, but i have decided to not go prif (cuz cg is poorly designed and most melee pacts wont work at all) so now i'm not sure if i just wasted my relic...

[next dust]

and taken the infinite secondaries*

[wraith thorn]

butlers bell sorts out herblore tbf

[next dust]

not for actually using them

[balmy shadow]

ahahaha im debating between reloading into butler bell or something else

[next dust]

i need to kill zulrah for example

herbs arent the issue

[wraith thorn]

if you didnt have a gp making relic then its still really good

[balmy shadow]

butler bell feels quite lacklustre if i can already gather my materials

[serene quiver]

ngl its a shame all i see is people mentioning range/mage; so i doubt they've noticed that Melee is dog this league (atm) - hopefully they buff

[wraith thorn]

butlers bell is very good for afk and it gives you exp too

[scenic garden]

melees have been loud about it being underwhelming as well

[balmy shadow]

it solves my smithing, construction and herblore

[wraith thorn]

i havent cooked a single piece of my own food or made an unf, im 85 cooking and 85 herblore lol

[scenic garden]

so they know

[covert wolf]

Hold on a minute

I think I'm about to test something stupid on tithe farm

[elder heath]

Blindbag feels super ass with invy space loss and low proc% and slow attack speed

[craggy geyser]

do you know a good way for pot secondaries, that isnt friendly forager? i got butler too but i'm kinda "stuck" with it, i'm debating just tossing it all in mixology...

[elder heath]

All of these compound each other hella

[wraith thorn]

depends on your regions really