leagues-general

[long trail]

how 2 level cooking fast?

[tranquil pond]

oh god bless, tecpatl on 36kc

[long trail]

i got transmute no hotfoot and nothing past karamja

[old tapir]

endless harvest though?

[long trail]

yes

im just like

cooking swordfish so ass

or no

i need 80 for shark

[hazy anvil]

You can buy a bunch of grapes on Aldarin or w/e the place is called, and make wines

[old tapir]

find somewhere close to a bank and 1 tick them

[long trail]

oh shit there is grapes?

[little saddle]

how are people keeping track of items with EH?

[hazy anvil]

You have to deposit box run them

Turn your filter on @little saddle the game chat filter - put it on

[pulsar wigeon]

with mage? feels like itd be slow as

[little saddle]

oh thanks do you know if theres a plugin that gives you a number?

[tawdry carbon]

wait

[hazy anvil]

I used range

[tawdry carbon]

you can basically take no damage at echo amox

hes just super punishing if you lag or mess up

[unreal crane]

Anyone know the pest control world on leagues?

[acoustic sigil]

anyone know if people are running TOB already?

[hollow garden]

Anyone got a link to a King's Barrage build?

[outer aurora]

ectophial pls jagex

like, this is insane

[tawdry carbon]

lets go

[long trail]

how do i get a supply of jug of water tho lol

[nocturne flume]

thanks everyone for helping me, i just got full eclipse for my mage/ranged build

[long trail]

no shops for that

[rain wharf]

Anyone playing the thorns build? How’s it going?

[unreal crane]

Theres multiple thorn builds

Mage/Ranged (xbow/thrown/darts), dinhs

[hazy anvil]

Buy empty ones and fill em up

[rain wharf]

Like the full thorns - justicar dhins etc

[hazy anvil]

there's packs of empties

[frozen gyro]

anyone know the BA world?

[long trail]

oh ok thx

[static arch]

So, looking at Faux's Thorns/powered staff build, would it still want/need Tiranwnn?

[unreal crane]

Not sure but i'm switcdhing my build to either xbow or thrown thorns

[static arch]

Didn't take larceny, so Tiranwnn kinda seems like it'd be an oof for me.

(want to do a magic build)

[hazy anvil]

I am using the xbow and it's not as fun as I hoped. Dopamine big hits take a while to get. I have kings crossbow and onyx bolts and hitting dual 35's

but I splash every second hit

[unreal crane]

I have the kings xbow with the healing frozen right now

[static arch]

ohhh, tiranwnn blessing works on powered staves

that explains a lot

lol

[unreal crane]

you're ranged thorns xrmd?

[hazy anvil]

I have 1 point in thorns to help train melee stats. I am going the healing xbow build mainly

[unreal crane]

Yeah thats what i am now, going to switch. I think full torva with strength bonus thorns with dragon knives will be fun

[tranquil pond]

if i only want one moons set, is farming just that moon better than farming all of them?

[unreal crane]

yes

[eternal pilot]

is amulet of the dambed affected by charge use reduction?

[small flower]

yea, no weird nerfed rates like barrows

[unreal crane]

Anyone know the pest control world on leagues?

[cloud basin]

would also like to know, need my void for all styles ;D

[covert wolf]

is it easier to get rare from huey from a lot of people or few people?

[hazy anvil]

Fewer

[covert wolf]

i feel like doing huey feels pointless

[hazy anvil]

but fewer is tough. I wouldn't camp huey tbh until late game masses

[nocturne flume]

guys im not an osrs player but is blue moon the best mage armor before zeah? My areas are kandarin wildy and then finally zeah for ancestral

[jovial tiger]

wanna duo lol?

[native crystal]

tried to do steel dragons as blind bag and got fuckeeed

[cloud basin]

perhaps if you need the hides to craft the armor

[tranquil pond]

virtus from the ds2 bosses is better

[kind vale]

Bruh im so dumb I've been farming a tecu salamander for a while not realizing the mature ones go to your bank

[nocturne flume]

isnt virtus from nex? Which is asgarnia?

[signal pecan]

but vardorvis is quite hard to do

[tranquil pond]

no, virtus is from vardorvis, whisperer, leviathan, and duke

[covert wolf]

nah i'll prob go fire cape now

[signal pecan]

no- nex only drops torva in osrs, there's a set of hard bosses that drop virtus

[nocturne flume]

ah dang, should i just get the blue moon armor anyway? I have like 95 st, atk blindbag build. Takes me like 30 sec to farm blue moon

[covert wolf]

need more gear so that i can solo huey

[cloud basin]

DT2 bosses drop Virtus

[signal pecan]

i wonder if we'd ever get pernix, but idk if that's really necessary

[cloud basin]

raid iv

;D

[signal pecan]

doesnt rly make sense

[tawdry carbon]

im sick of THESE boppers i want the RED boppers

[signal pecan]

pernix is ancient gear, raids 4 is themed mainly around guthix

[queen kettle]

has anyone done mage only fight cave?

[old tapir]

yes

[tranquil pond]

probably

[old tapir]

water surge everything

[queen kettle]

worth fishing for task or nah

[tawdry carbon]

nah. i did it with a yew bow and half of the pacts i couldve gotten

[old tapir]

but also i had the funny infinite prayer node so i was just chilling the whole time

[tranquil pond]

if you have culling spree, def

[tranquil pond]

it was such a chill time for me too, until i wondered why i wasn't casting anymore
i'd run out of air runes

[grand fable]

is only killing chickens best way for feathers?

[old tapir]

oopsie

[golden stag]

fishing shops

[nocturne flume]

u can buy thousands at fish shps

[latent oracle]

Best gp to get 250m crystal crown?

[signal pecan]

i got black dhide armour, but eclipse is proooobably better?

[grand fable]

haha ty

[desert rock]

where can i get ghommals hilt without unlocking asgarnia?

[nocturne flume]

100%. its basically like armadyl

u can do huey as a bridge between black dhide and eclipse

if u already specced out of melee

[golden stag]

also, if anyone is still farming echo amox, if you are confident in the timing of the last phase, you don't need prayer at all, she only throws teh avoidable bomb so if you dodge it you take no damage, prayer or not

brougth to you by someone who ran out of prayer during that phase

[nocturne flume]

yea u dont need pray at all in lastphase

[tawdry carbon]

yea but i have so many fuckin prayer pots i just camp it

[old tapir]

we shall curse instead

put on soul split

[tawdry carbon]

i overprepared

[tranquil pond]

huh, fun fact to know just after i finished the grind

[golden stag]

as someone who's considers themselves a striclty okay PVMer, learning this fight was extremely rewarding

[boreal imp]

i cant DPS the melee garg boss with range???

[tawdry carbon]

what droprate of the super boppers ?

[tranquil pond]

i was just home porting and using evil eye to get back

[glass sequoia]

Started mage echo Amox easy with mage or better to melee/range?

[signal pecan]

feel like tryna get huey is a bad idea,

[tawdry carbon]

yea its a fun fight.. im learning all these bosses, irst time ever seeing this shit

[golden stag]

1/60 i think

[tranquil pond]

i found melee easier honestly

[desert rock]

anyone know where to claim combat achievements without asgarnia?

[tranquil pond]

1/30

[signal pecan]

the rate cant be that good versus just running eclipse moon in mixed hide and bringing some stab weapons

[old tapir]

have you tried the guy in yama's lair

[desert rock]

I tried the league tutor and the sage in the cage

and yama

[old tapir]

hmmm, i recall having hilt 2 for barrows last league without asgarnia

but i don't remember where i got it from

[desert rock]

ahhh looks like potentially next to the inferno

[tranquil pond]

i was hesitant on if i picked correctly with evil eye, until i started farming bosses

wow this thing is really nice

[old tapir]

map do be good early though

[nocturne flume]

yea same, it kinda sucked for varlamore but now that im bossing, its indenspensible

[tranquil pond]

huey has a bank right next to him too

[tranquil pond]

map seems like a very solid sidegrade

depending on what you're doing

the bank tele one feels like overkill

[old tapir]

i don't really like the menuing of evil eye though

[tranquil pond]

oh, is map different?

[old tapir]

dunno

i dont have it

[tranquil pond]

ah

yeah, the menu kinda sucks

[desert rock]

its fun learning the wildy bosses

[tranquil pond]

it'd be nice if it only showed your unlocked regions

[zinc olive]

they forgot to give bg an animation for chopping ent logs lol

[tranquil pond]

is pvp enabled on league servers?

[old tapir]

i've been using the royal seed pod to bank just to always have the abyss fairy ring on the last destination option lol

because i dread the evil eye menu

[desert rock]

yes but there is no reason to kill another player, you cant pick up their items

[boreal imp]

is Dusk boss immune to range??\

[tranquil pond]

hol up, there's an evil eye port right next to a fairy ring?

that's huge news

[marsh jay]

How does one get to the Abyss in the league?

[old tapir]

yes, abyssal sire

[rocky osprey]

varlamore - abyssal sire is next to a ring

[tranquil pond]

omg, i wish i knew about that sooner, so nice though

evil eye keeps getting better

[lethal coyote]

Is there a faster way to level defense than just doing fun combat?

[marsh jay]

How do you enter abyss on league? do you require wilderness?

[tranquil pond]

i'm actively using the mythic cape because it can tele to the myths guild which has a spirit tree right there

so i've stopped carrying the seed pod

[eternal fog]

shades of morton is broken. anybody have a solution?

outdated content is literally impossible to do

[old tapir]

how is it broken

[oak trout]

lap counter not working with hotfoot for prif agility course?

[eternal fog]

cant do the quest

[old tapir]

why not

[tranquil pond]

isn't that what the whole minigame is about, repairing that tower thing?

[old tapir]

you can solo the minigame if you're good enough

[eternal fog]

you need to be ina world with people to help u

[austere ember]

what's wrong with the menu? I find it kinda simple doing "click 1 1" or "click 1 2" and so on

[eternal fog]

and its also boosted npcs so they att faster than normal

broken bugged content

[tranquil pond]

it does get a lot better if you just click teleport, rather than trying to use the little item menu thing

[old tapir]

get yourself 8 flamtaer bracelets and a shade dummy and it should be easy

[tranquil pond]

Anyone know how hard echo thermy is?

[marsh jay]

how do you get to abbys?

[old tapir]

dip fairy ring

[tranquil pond]

Thinking if i wanna farm huey for a wand, or if i should just skip to echo thermy

[iron gate]

light

[nocturne flume]

has anyoone farmed venetatnis yet in wildy?

[bitter wharf]

Are shields counted as "offhands"

[tranquil pond]

no

[cedar bolt]

for the throwing pact they are

[tranquil pond]

wait, really?

[cedar bolt]

yeah, when i put a shield on i get the boost on my character sheet

[tranquil pond]

oh, well then i'm wrong

honestly, that's preferred

i saw a lot of people saying they didn't, but i never actually checked myself

[bitter wharf]

Curious cuz of the "take 0 damage, heal for 2" node near thorns

[tawdry carbon]

woohooo

no boppers yet tho

for kourend->mory->flex, I guess the time has come...
U guys think I should grab culling or grimoire?

[tranquil pond]

you have mory, so it's not as vital

[bitter wharf]

I somehow managed to kill the echo nagua once like two hours ago, can't manage to do it again

[fallen fossil]

After I unlocked evil eye, I went to Vardorvis and survived 3 hits.

[tawdry carbon]

whats not as vital, culling?

[tranquil pond]

yeah, culling

since mory can get the slayer helm

[tawdry carbon]

right

[tranquil pond]

what would you want from grimoire?

[thorn marsh]

Yea, Vardorvis tends to do that..

[tight jay]

for blind bag I want noxious halberd which is just Morytania, which also gets me dharok's greataxe and TOB scythe eventually. So two noxious one for the bag and one for equip, that gets me three off one area. The soul reaper axe I can get all 4 pieces from Vardorvis in Varlamore if I read the league rules correctly, that makes 4 for my blind bag. What would be a good 5th. I still would have two more areas to work with and not sure on which ones I would go to

[tawdry carbon]

peity i guess is the only thing lol

[tranquil pond]

you survived 3 hits? impressive

[tawdry carbon]

and ancients?

this relic gives me the exp multiplier right

so i have to pick

[tranquil pond]

honestly, if you're going melee, that's a pretty good reason

[thorn marsh]

I've barely gotten to the point where I can kill normal Vardorvis maybe half the time..

[tawdry carbon]

yeah im hybrid melee + range

[thorn marsh]

Zero fucking chance I kill Awakened Vardorvis..

[tranquil pond]

if your flex is something like tir

then grimoire would be really solid for you i think

[tawdry carbon]

But last region is TBD -- i was wondering between tir or something else

but kourend gives me hespori bow

[austere ember]

I did 2 kc / 40 I took for slayer task and it's probably a lil cooked until I upgrade from obby set

[tawdry carbon]

so i wouldnt rly use bowfa right

[tranquil pond]

or you can just farm twisted bow

since you have a raid

[old tapir]

oh wow i just read something cool

[austere ember]

takes 2min, I wonder if melee void would do better

[old tapir]

you can give spirit seeds to the farming guildmaster for seed packs

[tawdry carbon]

tbow is still slow af tho right

[old tapir]

and you can transmute all tree seeds up to spirit

[tranquil pond]

yeah, it makes transmute infinite seeds

[tawdry carbon]

man i cant decide

they are both kind of milquetoast for my region choices

[old tapir]

question is whether i have any tree seeds

[tranquil pond]

grimoire would also give you access to thralls if you don't wanna go kourend

[tawdry carbon]

yeah but the thralls dont stack with the demon right?

and i was gonna pick demon

[tranquil pond]

ah

gotcha, yeah nvm then

lunars can be good exp

so maybe that's worth considering from grimoire

[tawdry carbon]

im 99 mage

[tranquil pond]

right

[tawdry carbon]

transmute is just constnat mage xp

its either anicents+peity, or ... slayer helm without a slayer helm

[tranquil pond]

being able to select slayer task is pretty nice too

[tawdry carbon]

what region unlocks peity, kandarin ?

[tranquil pond]

if you're gonna be doing slayer bosses a lot, that could be relevant

uh, i think so?

wait, that means i can get it

lmao, i didn't even think about that

[tawdry carbon]

do you have to do the quest

yeah

its unlocked apparently

[fallen fossil]

I took a steel pickaxe, evil eye, and my sneakers

[tawdry carbon]

fuck

[tranquil pond]

grimoire honestly seems like it frees you up to do a lot more different builds

but

culling spree is a lot of damage against slayer bosses

as well as makes slayer more fun

[thorn marsh]

Being able to take 200 Bloodveld tasks is so nice..

[tranquil pond]

i think the choice is obvious

eternal sustenance

[tawdry carbon]

lamo

[thorn marsh]

Especially since I don't have Transmute to solve money..

[tawdry carbon]

i have infinite brews basiccally atm

x.x

and since im going kourend for hepsori bow i can use it to sustain

[tranquil pond]

yeah man, jokes aside, i think it's entirely a personal preference thing

[tawdry carbon]

its basically peity vs. being able to pick slayer

[tranquil pond]

and damage against the gargoyle and araxxor bosses

since you get the slayer helm damage bonus while being able to wear an actually good helm

[pliant temple]

went and got one kill myself and then respecced into 1t mage waith 45% prayer pen for the rest of the grind but im proud of myself

that boss was hard!!!

[tawdry carbon]

thing is

Without peity my melee prayers are what 3 clicks

[thorn marsh]

Echo Hunleff counting as a Corrupted Gauntlet speedkill is silly..

[timid sage]

piety is stronger though

by a lot

[thorn marsh]

Since it doesn't have a prep phase at all..

[tawdry carbon]

yeah

whats in kandarin again

[pliant temple]

i went slayer relic bc fun

[tawdry carbon]

i dont remmeber kandarin being fun

[timid sage]

can always reload to take both

[tawdry carbon]

i was gonna reload butler or smth

[timid sage]

flow state isn't that great

[static arch]

Ahhh... I forgot the Thorns build needs Suffering for the big damages

That's why Tyranwnn is big

[timid sage]

honestly by the time ur able to reload i really don't think you even need butler anymore

[boreal imp]

has anyone done the echo gargs

[tawdry carbon]

or conniving clues

[pliant temple]

i was thinking of reloading into clue relic bc also fun

[tawdry carbon]

this my relic atm
and im going Kourend->Mory->????

I have no idea what to pick man

im agonizing lol

[pliant temple]

but piety is probably the smarter choice? not sure

[timid sage]

are u melee build

[tawdry carbon]

if i pick kandarin i get peity naturally + I can farm zenyte

[tawdry carbon]

yeah im doing halberd+blind bag

[timid sage]

zenytes are useless if you have mory

[tranquil pond]

probably, especially since they have mory for slayer helms already

[tawdry carbon]

And also some bow with the hespori

[tranquil pond]

suffering

[timid sage]

since rancour drops fully assembled

[tawdry carbon]

rancour is melee only tho right

[timid sage]

dawg

[timid sage]

yeah

[tawdry carbon]

fuck it

im going grimoire

[pliant temple]

i also have mory for slayer helm and went slayer relic bc i just wanted to have fun slayer time

[tranquil pond]

don't you DAWG me

[pliant temple]

well i dont have mory yet but i will

[timid sage]

but anguish honestly isn't that great

[tawdry carbon]

im doing it

grimoire

[timid sage]

for a region pick atleast

if you were doing full crossbow kandarin is fine because ballista is nuclear

but kinda ass otherwise

[tranquil pond]

yeah nah, i wouldn't pick kandarin just for zenyte unless i'm doing a dedicated thorns build

i picked it because echo thermy

[tawdry carbon]

grimoire gives the +XP thing right ?

that tier

its bug right

[timid sage]

yeah

[pliant temple]

im doing dogger+thorns but not gonna bother with the suffering

[timid sage]

oh shit you're true

[tranquil pond]

uh, doesn't look like it

[tawdry carbon]

yeah it does its bug

[static arch]

Nvm, thought demonic gorillas were there for some reason.

[timid sage]

maybe i should get my next tier before i farm fletching

hmm

[tranquil pond]

oh, that's odd, it's on the next tier

[pliant temple]

would rather have the crystal armor+blessing than the suffering

[timid sage]

more xp would be nice

issue with crystal blessing is that tir is a dead region

[tranquil pond]

i'd only specifically want suffering if i was going full meme dihn's justiciar, suffering, echo boots

[timid sage]

fine if u don't have anything in mind but tir has so little content

[tranquil pond]

i'll probably still get myself a suffering, just because it's a solid ring for the regions i have

yeah, tir is barely a region

even fremmy is better

[timid sage]

fremmy and tir fighting for last place

[tranquil pond]

if tir didn't have the crystal blessing literally no one would pick it

[pliant temple]

tir is dead past the armor and blessing but thats all i needed it for

so im fine with my choice

[tranquil pond]

but at least tir has an excuse, it has like 3 quests to it's name

fremmy has existed for so long

and has a TON of quests

yet it's still dog

[static arch]

lmao. finally chose Kandarin, only 51 tasks from the next area

[pliant temple]

fremmy last leagues was crazy and this year its so meh

[tranquil pond]

the ring will do that

[pliant temple]

only crazy bc the jewelery was nuts

[pure karma]

nice. i cant do lv 91 hunter rumors even though i have that +10 boost to hunter

[timid sage]

the helmest is good isn't it?

[tranquil pond]

i honestly still haven't fully decided on my final region

[timid sage]

idk actually

[tranquil pond]

maybe desert, idk

[pliant temple]

helmet is good if you dont have mory

[timid sage]

i might take wildy just to fuck with people

[tranquil pond]

based?

[timid sage]

blind bag elder maul and nuke their hp

[pure karma]

how hard is echo kbd?

[pliant temple]

my friend whos doing it right now just said its not crazy hard but its really bad

[timid sage]

man i missed last league

thunder khopesh and you find the people doing chaos altar and just farm anger

[pliant temple]

so far im not really caring for the slower pace of this leagues

[timid sage]

super jealous of the people that did it

[low tangle]

haha hey guys got dragon defender 2kc

[pliant temple]

i think the skill tree is really really cool but it takes a while for any build to come online

[timid sage]

I like the skill tree more because atleast this time there's a reason to build something other than range

and they can explore functional upgrades unlike the stupid magic thing from last year

[tranquil pond]

i like the design flexibility it gives the developers

but i also really like poe

so i'm biased towards skill trees

[timid sage]

i'm a sucker for a fun melee build

and blind bag is perfect

[tranquil pond]

i was almost gonna go bluetooth hally build with blind bag, but then i saw what mage was capable of

and it sounded so chill

[simple pivot]

how are people farming 150 lizardmen for Zeah?

[tranquil pond]

i do not regret my decision to pivot to mage

[pliant egret]

wat do u guys think is the fastest way to get league points?

[timid sage]

miserably

[supple minnow]

Transmute, buy 300k fire runes, autocast transmute, walk away

[supple minnow]

You can make divine pots, how is that hard to faceroll with ease of boosts

[tranquil pond]

hm, how much is moons droprate boosted, 1/224 per piece sounds like it'll still take quite a long time

even if like 5x

[supple minnow]

Me when im trying to farm obby aks and whatever else at 1/650

[simple pivot]

why tf is defeating 150 lizardman only 30 points too.

[eternal pilot]

150 barrows runs not 1 set lol

[supple minnow]

I mean, ive been farming amox

[zinc goblet]

Is there a nightmare world

[supple minnow]

Lizardmen would be so much better

[simple pivot]

amox is chill, echo i was getting 1min kc trips.

[supple minnow]

And tbh idk why im farming amox.

I mean I got prayer pots now so my trips go indefinite

[simple pivot]

theres moths outside, just catch those

[supple minnow]

Not sure what im even doing there

First boss ive ever tried on rs

[hazy anvil]

Anyone have suggestions or tips on how to get the prayer boost tasks? IE wearing gear with high pray bonus? Clues possibly? Don't have relic yet though.

[warped turtle]

Yeah i did mine with zammy robes and mitres i got from clues

[supple minnow]

Dmace, book offhand, boots, holy symbol/stoles

Dmace having prayer boost is crazy lol

[glad knoll]

they're aggressive so it's full afk
that's basically 30 points for doing a slayer task

[hazy anvil]

Where can I find the mace? Also which book? isn't that fremmy region only?

[supple minnow]

Thorns build would make quick work of them

[muted needle]

if i unlock a specific map will my clue steps add too??

[hazy anvil]

Yes

[supple minnow]

Uh, I think there are some offhand books that give prayer but if its only the deep quest that gives it gl

Arceus book

[muted needle]

i see. so it is easier to complete the tasks in kandarin? specially the hard and elite

[cursive glacier]

chat is there any use for the fletching knife or can i sell it to buy more spools?

[supple minnow]

Lowers fletch ticks by 1

Saves 1 inv space by wielding

[cursive glacier]

oh wait thats big

it speeding up fletching that is

cause fletching is annoying

[supple minnow]

Just keep farming spools.

[hazy anvil]

Your choice really if you want to delay opening other regions while doing clues - it's smart but slows progress

[supple minnow]

Tbh fetching is totems. Bis activity

[minor summit]

You can't use the knife on the logs if equipped though, right?

[cursive glacier]

wait yea how do you use it?

[supple minnow]

Ooooh

[tawdry carbon]

woooo

[supple minnow]

Forgot about that. Why wield when you cant use it

[minor summit]

Congrats!!

[cursive glacier]

ig its for like, needing to slash webs or smth idk

[tranquil pond]

grats, how many kc

[cursive glacier]

or maybe making the totems themselves

[covert wolf]

anyone know where to find rune longsword?

[supple minnow]

Oh there are variants to that boss drop? I got the blue ones. I was gonna keep farming blue ones

[muted needle]

i still have 34 tasks for my next region so i guess the tasks ill finish are the clues

[tawdry carbon]

the echo version of the boss

drops the super wep

[tranquil pond]

oh, bout the same as me

[muted needle]

thanks for your help @hazy anvil

appreciate you

[minor summit]

I need to get gear upgrade to kill regular amox. I am struggling against it

[supple minnow]

Get the obby fast tick slicy crushy weps

And have mage pray

[tawdry carbon]

omg theyre so strong wtf

wait

if i get a second pair

can i blind bag them

or are echo weps not albe to get dupes

[minor summit]

What

[supple minnow]

My idea

[minor summit]

Whoa*

[supple minnow]

Blond bag double hits with other hammers

[minor summit]

Blind bagging all the boppers

[tawdry carbon]

like if i get a 2nd one can i super-bop with two of them?

it works with the ice boppers

[supple minnow]

Yuhh

Ima do it

[austere ember]

amox echo wep kinda ass compared to 2t daggers tbh

[supple minnow]

All the double hits trigger more blind bag

[austere ember]

I was let down

[supple minnow]

Bruuùh

Whats the echo wep do

[austere ember]

10% demonbane and has stab/slash/crush

[supple minnow]

1.8s over a blind bag chance of 1/4, with blind bag retriggers no cap, you didnt full send

[tawdry carbon]

it also weighs 3.6

so it counts for blind bag

but can you get 2 echo weps or does it restrict to 1 perr acc

[supple minnow]

Shouldn't restrict

Daggers are 3t or 4t? 2.4s?

[austere ember]

they have to be unique tho

[tawdry carbon]

no i mean

[minor summit]

The cerb dagger is 2t

[supple minnow]

Right the echo should be separate

[tawdry carbon]

can i get 2 of these

so i can have 1 on me + 1 in bag for blind bag

[supple minnow]

Oh idk how unique items are considered based on held item

[torpid trench]

Held items are not considered

[tawdry carbon]

yeah they arent

i was using 2x ice boppers

[supple minnow]

Sweeet

[tawdry carbon]

but can yu drop a 2nd echo bosas wep or no

[torpid trench]

Its unique items IN inventory

not in general

[tawdry carbon]

i dont wanna farm this guy a bunch and its never dropable

[supple minnow]

Dont see why you couldnt

[torpid trench]

No idea, doubt anyone bothered to farm em

[supple minnow]

So it becomes 0.6s with the boost speed node?

[charred thunder]

how do i get to vardorivs without evil eye or kourend?

[minor summit]

No sorry it is default 3t

[tranquil pond]

i've just learned that the butler doesn't give snapdragon as one of the random herbs, that's it, his pay is getting docked

[minor summit]

Becomes 2t with pact point

[acoustic tapir]

Does anyone do cox in this league or am i too early?

[tranquil pond]

there's probably already people doing it, but likely too early for the average player

[torpid trench]

Think this (with sunlight hunter cbow obviously, ignore knives, im at crab) with 80 range will do a reasonable fire cape?

[tranquil pond]

yeah, probably
fire cape really isn't that hard, especially with the pact bonuses

[supple minnow]

Ok cerb dps going from base to 33% faster, while blindbag is between 15% - 25% chance to execute another attack, with more chances to blindbag off the triggers.

Id go with BB because the multihits if thats how it works, from the hammers

[supple minnow]

Make pots

[torpid trench]

See thats what I keep seeing ppl say, but I figured my build was ready for chaos ele and the wildy bosses that drop the shield shards for easy pact points, and I got annihilated, so now Ive been humbled and Im worried about pushing too far

[tawdry carbon]

I got it with a yew shortbow + rune arrows, mixed dhide, and only these pacts

[supple minnow]

Enchanted bolts?

[tawdry carbon]

no

yew shortbow + rune arrows

lol

[supple minnow]

Enchanted arr- fml

The thrown capstones...
Would be hilarious when jad healers hit, and the pacts just explode projectiles

[tranquil pond]

i wish the fire magic capstone looked stronger

blood magic with fire capstone sounds hilarious

[kind cairn]

Where can i easily get Death runes?

Do I just wait to unlock transmute?

[supple minnow]

Yeah, hit 1 thing, burn everything

[supple minnow]

Money, buy the runes in tek

The pyramid place

In varlamore

[small flower]

sounds incredibly fun, but there's just not many places where you could mess around with it :/

[supple minnow]

Uh... bandos?

[tranquil pond]

tal teklan or something iirc

[kind cairn]

they sell death runes?

[tranquil pond]

or in the dwarf city in varlamore

[supple minnow]

Bought them to sell to tzhaar for onyx

[kind cairn]

XD

[supple minnow]

Just take transmute. Ez

99mage in 8 hrs

[charred thunder]

anyone know how to get to vardorvis without kourend or evil eye?

[small flower]

yea, there's a few, but it's a lot to just goof off in gwd

[supple minnow]

Uhh, maybe uhh

Troll slayer task. All I got

[small flower]

XD

[covert wolf]

this step haunts me every where

it was the last too of my first elite

[supple minnow]

Doth thou lacketh robes?

[slim crag]

[supple minnow]

What did you craft

[slim crag]

eternal teleport seeds

[supple minnow]

Ah

Frigging this guy with the seeds lolol

The elves dont take kindly

[pallid moth]

I guess those work too, I didn't think of them because you can't break the product back down into the seeds

[torpid trench]

Is htere somewhere i can buy stews or other high healing food that leaves an item behind? Trying to grind chaos ele for the d2h is driving me nuts with sharks

[slim crag]

I was raised by dwarves. I don't care about elves.

[supple minnow]

If you are stacking fire deeps with blood, easily the fire rune regen buff to deal an extra damage per rune regenerated, would be massive

[small flower]

doesn't that not work at all with blood barrage? doesn't even use fire runes

[glad knoll]

can't remember
are teaks meta all the way to 99 / 50m? for EH

[supple minnow]

Oh oof

[small flower]

water and smoke get some use out of them, but not so much blood/shadow

[young osprey]

what's the method for sire? all wiki methods involve scobow which is not viable for obvious reasons

[tawdry carbon]

the amox boppers are demonbane

[slim crag]

Damn.

[pulsar lance]

Do slayer tasks taken into account abundance?

[small flower]

the dark demonbane spell should get a small damage boost from fire regen

[young osprey]

you can't melee vents though?

[slim crag]

I need 40 more enhanced tp seeds for 25m in crafting and smithing

[versed heart]

can you get slayer tasks you cant do in your regions? i only have kandarin unlocked and it gave me jellys

nvm, special type in varlamore

[supple minnow]

Smoke barrage though?

[young osprey]

chilled jellies in varla

[small flower]

yea smoke gets both air and fire, though not a ton

[supple minnow]

Yeah smoke barrage would be outstanding with the fire rune regen trigger. +1 per (any rune regenerated as long as one wad fire?)

And then you use a blood spell to cap the burn

And back to smoke. Just updating the burn stacks

[small flower]

it's specific to the rune

not total runes used

[supple minnow]

So thats +4 damage then

[rain wharf]

What regions you guys going if your doing the meta air/water mage? Kandarin is a given I suppose but what else?

[small flower]

yea

still good

[pallid moth]

I assume you're an iron? summer pies are pretty good, but I think aside from high tier clues you need to cook them yourself unfortunately. you could make curry(potato, cooked meat, spice or 3 curry leaves) or get them from gourmet implings at a 1/10

[long trail]

wat would a good offshoot be for a blindbag build, watermage?

[tranquil pond]

kourend or grimoire is a LOT of damage

[small flower]

and the maxhit in wildy with accursed scepter should be fun (making my mage air/smoke wildy tirr kand)

[long trail]

idk how2 add sustain

[torpid trench]

We are all irons, you are in leagues chat chief

[supple minnow]

Burn going with +4 damage perpetually added to hits is insane

[tranquil pond]

charged staff if you're going crystal blessing

[pallid moth]

oh oops lol

[small flower]

wait, smoke wont be a fire spell

[eternal pilot]

is there like a limit on barrows items a day? ive not gotten an item in like 40 runs?

[small flower]

it's still an air spell, just has bonus damage from the fire rune regen

[rain wharf]

Was considering kourend for sure - prayer scrolls and ancestral. 3rd region?

[supple minnow]

No use blood barrage to get the burn stacks up

[small flower]

ohh

i see

[supple minnow]

Yeah

[tranquil pond]

3rd region, dunno, i'm still torn myself

[rain wharf]

I hate decisions. lol

[small flower]

has anyone actually made a fire mage to capstone yet? idk what kinda damage the burn does

[pallid moth]

best bet is curry then, you can get infinite spice from the varlamore stall

[tranquil pond]

i'm leaning towards desert just for ancients and so i can do toa

[long trail]

no tiranwnn

[rain wharf]

Don’t need ancients at all for toa?

Oh

Misread haha

[tranquil pond]

ye

[supple minnow]

Take grimoire

[tranquil pond]

no?

[supple minnow]

Ok nvm then

[tranquil pond]

i already have cullingspree anyways

[supple minnow]

Fair

[tranquil pond]

i need to get high slayer for echo thermy

[rain wharf]

Anyone here not take forager or butler? What’s the herb solve if we don’t

[tranquil pond]

and grimoire is kind of a waste if i'm already getting kourend

it's not like my 3rd region is even all that useful

[tranquil pond]

transmute seeds and farm i think

[supple minnow]

Fire burn on hit bounce to 2 targets, with barrage would like, instastack

[rain wharf]

I was afraid of that lol

I also want soul harvest instead of larcenist if I don’t go priff lol

[tranquil pond]

larcenist is just good

[rain wharf]

Might just do priff for 3rd anyway for all that crafting and smithing

[tranquil pond]

don't specifically need mory or prif

[rain wharf]

If you don’t go priff I feel likes it’s wasted

Easy 200m crafting and smithing with priff

Other than some decent gp and clues

[tranquil pond]

what does prif have that makes larcenist so much better?

i thought it was just the shards

[rain wharf]

You can pickpocket teleport crystals and make crystal armor over and over

[tranquil pond]

ah

[rain wharf]

240k xp drops in smithing and crafting every like 2 ticks

[supple minnow]

Shoot id go fire mage just to instastack and melt whatever

[young osprey]

anyone done sire this leagues? what did you use against vents?

[rain wharf]

What region even unlocks sire actually?

Idk where that realm is located lol

[young osprey]

unlocked by default, accessed by fairy rings

[rain wharf]

Ahhh

Makes sense

[opaque knoll]

I’m gunna say it boys. I think they fucked up with the demonic pacts. They’re too hard to get early and the build decision you make can brick the fuck out of you for the next echo you might want to try and do

[small flower]

yea but is it like 5 damage per tick? or what
(at max stacks)

[kind cairn]

Where do i get blood runes?

[rain wharf]

What regions u got

Will depend on how you can get them

[kind cairn]

Just the first two

[supple minnow]

A stack is 1 damage per tick

[olive topaz]

Anyone having issues finding tiedache in shilo for karambwan vessel?

[small flower]

yea back to bouncing barrages sounding cool for aoe, but there's not really a practical aoe use case 🙁

[supple minnow]

5 damage per tick max. Treat it like, the damage you deal between spell hits is a part of the spell hit.

In 4t thats 20 damage

[small flower]

yea, i think it'd be great in gwd XD and multi slayer

[lament crater]

Recommende t3 relic? I cant choose

[young osprey]

down to personal preference

[small flower]

though i suppose 4 points up into it for any other mage would be a very good sub for those cases

[supple minnow]

Well, its better than 50% increased damage if you arent hitting max hit each time. Ots guaranteed, o ly limited by accuracy before you get the stacks up

You'd need to hit a 40, to get 20 more damage

News flash, you ain't hitting 40s

And the point investment efficiency is

[tranquil pond]

yeah, barrage is already enough aoe by itself

[supple minnow]

Enough but you still have to account for accuracy and enemy bonuses

[kind cairn]

Any tips on early game prayer leveling?

[cursive glacier]

big bones til 30, libation bowl forever after

[supple minnow]

Buffalooooo

Jk

[cursive glacier]

or take transmute

[kind cairn]

ahhh ye transmute

[supple minnow]

However I killed buffalo transmutting for dag bones until 65 all cb

[cursive glacier]

and just transmute to dag bones and then superior dbones and stuff

[small flower]

ye, i mean in regions where applicable it's a great 4 point jump to get wild kill speed in groups

[old tapir]

Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo.

[acoustic sigil]

any tob worlds?

[cursive glacier]

is it bad i actually know the meaning of this by heart as well

[tranquil pond]

oh really, they do? i didn't know that

[supple minnow]

Id take it just because I like the flag regen buff, and the stacking burn from single target

[peak aurora]

any zalcano masses?

[signal pecan]

neat. time to actually do tasks now

[tranquil pond]

i blame michael "vsauce" vsauce

[supple minnow]

Does he do a whole episode saying the word in the cadence of normal content?

[cursive glacier]

i learned it in 10th grade english lmao

[simple pivot]

whats the boss list for the areas?

[old tapir]

the forestry leprechaun hates the league

[simple pivot]

i only get assigned vard

[supple minnow]

There's also like, warped staff with earths. And the other powered staves with fire. Those could be interesting

[hasty ginkgo]

Should I respec for fight caves? Currently in a melee build...

[supple minnow]

Oof

[small flower]

pretty sure the power staves dont get anything beyond speed and the base 1-2 rune regen

[tranquil pond]

if you can get the hally capstone and a halbard, then it's probably fine

[small flower]

since they aren't spells, and they only specifically get that 1 rune to regen

[austere ember]

no, you can just do them normally

[supple minnow]

The speed and regenning fire runes tho. If they have a cost like that.

[weary drift]

friendly forager or woodsman for a KTM thorns mage build, idk woodsman seems weak but I might be not seeing how good it is

[supple minnow]

Lower max hit output, higher consistent damage

[small flower]

yea, still gonna be good i think

[bold yacht]

i forgot void needs you to have 42 range to buy it

[supple minnow]

Warped staff, brrrt to max bonus Def. Use sara brew, restores, then dragon baxe spec. Have a bazillion str. And then whack the enemy with melee

[small flower]

o right, void, i guess i should go do some PC at some point

[supple minnow]

Casually have 200def

[small flower]

yea the def stacking looked pretty fun for power staff, since they dont benefit from devils element anyway

[velvet hornet]

there an efficient way to ge 10k bow string for spool task?

[small flower]

easy to just focus on that and thorns

[supple minnow]

Massive pray/str % increase buffs

[smoky raft]

just witnessed someone die to a waterfiends slayer task

[young osprey]

sit

[supple minnow]

Down

[smoky raft]

[torpid trench]

Is rcb more accurate than hunter cb?

[wet meadow]

why wont these kids take my valuables for pay an urchin task? he said he normally charges 15 but its free? dafuq

[tired mango]

anybody doing pest control

[small flower]

you have to wait for it to cycle after the first time

[simple pivot]

Is it a bug that im only getting assigned vardorvis as a boss task with culling spree?

[wet meadow]

hmm ok

[small flower]

you're probably just getting unlucky rolls

[covert night]

should i have 5 heavy weps in my blind bag or should i remove some of them if some are weak?

[supple minnow]

The ability from regenning earths, could exceed the divine defense pot buff. So like, you never need def pots as they would be overriden by higher?.
If you have 120 defense total foem tree, they'd buff like flat 20 or w/e. Your earth buff would be 24? Unless base caps at 99, it would be 18, still not bad.

[young osprey]

vardorvis just has really high weight I think

[small flower]

the defense boost does not stack with pot buffs, and i dont think pot buffs even work when you've got 159 def

[supple minnow]

XD

[small flower]

but the earth buff and the defense pacts do stack

so you can still get a whole ton of defense

[supple minnow]

Good

[smoky raft]

max visible def is something like 189

[small flower]

depends how drastic the difference in weapons is i'd think

2% extra chance definitely wouldn't make up for 20% of that chance to be a terrible hit

[boreal imp]

what is drop rate for echo weapons

why am i always DRY

[timid sage]

sucks to suck

i got mine 1kc

[torpid trench]

Forget echo weps man, im dry on an rcb from crazy arch

[timid sage]

need to get 90 fletching before i can even use my echo weapon

[supple minnow]

15% is solid chance.
2% to 6% isnt bad. Having a duplicate main wep as unique item is free 2%. So you just need 2 more good ones.
If you take that into account, its 21%, 1/5 hits?

If they double hit does that double the chance to 2/5 chance?

[timid sage]

🥀

[torpid trench]

why?

[timid sage]

dragon arrows

[torpid trench]

oh

[timid sage]

I was thinking about it and i don't really wanna bother doing fire cape without em

[small flower]

blindbags are specifically on attack, not per hitsplat, the double hits do help for the range echos though

[boreal imp]

you dont have to lie to kick it

[timid sage]

nah i'm fr

[supple minnow]

Range echos trigger blinds?

[timid sage]

1kc echo hespori

[small flower]

so as long as you're not fighting something with a lot of flat armor, doublehits are good, until you start getting godswords and stuff

[timid sage]

in and out

[small flower]

no, the blinds trigger range echos

[torpid trench]

Man I just want this rcb so I can do kbd

[boreal imp]

whats crazy is nobody here thinks youre lying

[tranquil pond]

is the dragon hunter wand worth the grind?

[torpid trench]

Might have to give up and send it with sunlight

[supple minnow]

Ah so echoes arent attacks

[small flower]

yea the echoes are just hits

[supple minnow]

Thats whack. Pun intended

[small flower]

XD

[timid sage]

cause i ain't

[small flower]

it's also nice since the range echos take your melee stats into their damage, but not weapon effects or anything, so if my max with maca is 26, but 13/hit, the range echo still maxes a 26

[timid sage]

holy shit i never equipped it for the task until now

i forgot to

i got it and said cool guess i need to fletch

[small flower]

lol

[young osprey]

shibe you done any sire this leagues?

[torpid trench]

Aight, we go get a range pot and then send kbd. Pray for me champs

[sterile robin]

how are yall getting early clues? hit 80 wc and only ever gotten 3 clues

[supple minnow]

So 21% at least, isnt bad.
I would do it because in extended fights, like amox, for example, you reduce the time it takes by 28% or so.
I need an excel sheet but my guestimation is 28-30%. Vs not using blindbag boost.
It means, if youve done 1:15 fights. You go down to 0:52

[boreal imp]

oh its a guarenteed drop rate nothing impressive do a real echo

[timid sage]

?

[young osprey]

wealthy citizens are easy clue dispensers

[timid sage]

the orb is guaranteed

the bow is 1/15

[sterile robin]

even without the thieving relic?

[timid sage]

i have also gotten my tecaptl early

[young osprey]

yep

[boreal imp]

see how it doesnt say guaranteed mate

[supple minnow]

If using double hit hammers, rolling blindbag twice per instance, would be insane

[timid sage]

that's the orb buddy

[small flower]

i mean i'll gladly keep using 5 double hit weaps while i don't have really good options, but when i start gettin godswords and stuff i'll swap out, the damage per hit difference is where it'd matter

[boreal imp]

are you dumb lmao

[timid sage]

it's one click away

[boreal imp]

i am the dumb one bum bum bummm

[supple minnow]

Yee the flat nerfed enemies make it a melt mechanic, and with hammers having insane crush, ooh whee

[timid sage]

guaranteed weapon would be insane

[supple minnow]

Does amox take thorns?

[small flower]

my current bag, wearing macas

i need another maca, and some torag hamms

[supple minnow]

Bruh whats your time trial

[signal pecan]

runecrafting is so rough rn

[timid sage]

thorns probably not great at amox

since all the damage is avoidable

[small flower]

time trial?

[supple minnow]

You can mushroom to nature/laws

[supple minnow]

Amox benchmark

[smoky raft]

thorns procs on blocked/prayed hits

[signal pecan]

im only tier 6

[supple minnow]

You take 0s

[signal pecan]

but that is good to know

[zenith harbor]

I can't get yew logs from ents at 69 wc, must be a bug?

[timid sage]

really?

[supple minnow]

If thorns on amox makes you hit, you can use that to make the fight extremely quick

[timid sage]

interesting

[signal pecan]

only want to get 52rc for now, so its no sweat

i have evil eye so i can just sire tp to a fairy ring

[smoky raft]

yep!

[supple minnow]

Mushroom is like, t5 or something

[signal pecan]

i took culling spree, but i intend to take natures accord for reload

[smoky raft]

other recoil effects, like ring and echo boots, still require actual damage

[signal pecan]

my apologies

[supple minnow]

Welp

[timid sage]

interesting

having a shield kinda sucks tho

[supple minnow]

You can spirit ring to nature altar

[signal pecan]

ye

[smoky raft]

it's better for magic than the melee tree it's in lmao

[small flower]

not sure i follow, best time on amox is 32s, but i stopped farmin her after temotlis dropped

[supple minnow]

Ah yeah blind bag would be lackluster with throns. However, the fast acting obby things can be used as main, bagging out the hammers

[eternal pilot]

is there a pity on the echo orbs?

[smoky raft]

I believe both orbs and echo items have a forced drop at double rate

[supple minnow]

Im gonna try with all of them

What do the others have that ice doesnt?

[timid sage]

what were the bugged magic trees in varla again

it's the auburnvale?

[eternal pilot]

good atleast i know theres an end trying to do guardians witha dscim and no melee pacts kinda sucks lol

hate how one is arbitrarily immune to all non melee

[timid sage]

do echo ones still have 0 def

[covert night]

if i have the reqs to use a crystal halbard but not hard diary does it still work in my blind bag?

if missing hard diary*

so cant equip

[sterile pewter]

I think I found a bug with endless harvest and monkfish. It doesnt auto run to a new spot there like it does with everything else

[small flower]

it should? as long as you have the thing it should swing it, should be easy to test though

i was swingin a d-long at like 40 attack

[covert night]

so it should work then

[covert wolf]

nah i have no idea what's wrong...

[bold yacht]

you let your hp hit 0 before his did

[covert wolf]

i pray the right thing but still ttook damage

weird

[supple minnow]

Seems the tzhaar didnt leash their dog to the strongest stalagmite

[supple minnow]

The jad entered the cereal bowl and casually crushed a cornflake

[carmine comet]

Is there ANY way to cancel a task with 0 points? I landed a TzHaar task for my first slayer assignment, it offered Jad, I accepted, when it asked how many I assumed it meant TzHaar? I have to kill 199 more Jad....

[sullen heath]

anyone know why smoke devils and custodian stalkers are locked? i've asked the master to ignore my combat level and i have kandarin unlocked

[eternal pilot]

also any recomended places to get a weapon that beats dscim that not 100% melee focused (i have no melee pacts)

[supple minnow]

Actively crying rn

Both of us

[covert wolf]

i'll be back after i max ranged

[supple minnow]

Thorns and pray

[carmine comet]

YOU TOO?

[eternal pilot]

you may be able to make it fail? go into the arena then leave

[small flower]

if you're asgarnia you can

[eternal pilot]

normal jad tanks fail if you leave early

[supple minnow]

Crying, not bricking slayer progression

[small flower]

turiel will cancel tasks for free

[grand fable]

whats yall opinon on t4 relics? im semi afk and not great at the game

[carmine comet]

Maybe the challenge Jads count

[small flower]

maybe npc contact could work

[supple minnow]

What are the options?

Everyone say it with me...

My life could be bad, at least not as bad as 199 jad

Next grid unlock: I must beat jad 200 times to be worthy

[carmine comet]

"Weclome back guys to my Jad lock run-"

[cursive glacier]

Butler and transmute are both good

[timid sage]

before the projectile came out or before it hit you

[carmine comet]

I really screwed up- and for the record it was like "Enter 5 - 200" the minimum would have been 5 Jads then?? Yall watch out for them Jad tasks

[supple minnow]

Me personally, transmute everytime

[grand fable]

yeah im stuck between the 2

[cursive glacier]

Transmute lets you get certain things way sooner/easier

Its def far stronger immediately

[supple minnow]

Jokes on them im into it

[small flower]

try npc contact to turael, or just talk to him if you're asgarnia

[timid sage]

are you fr? LOOOOOLLL

[cursive glacier]

Butler gives you resources and xp that are probably better in tbe long run

[slim crag]

ready for jad

[timid sage]

200 jads is lethal

that has to be a bug

[carmine comet]

It won't let me paste the screenshot? Probable bcause new here, but yes 100%

[timid sage]

dm and i can post

there's a rank requirement

[supple minnow]

Ayyo turael, I have to do what before you cancel it?
Catch and eat how many burnt swordfish? But I auto cook on catch

[grand fable]

ty all i still got quite a few points to go

[golden stag]

i would like echo amox to drop the damn bops. I don't want to go on rate but it's getting there

[small flower]

XD, he just straight up cancels tasks for free, if you're in asg you get infinite free skips

[timid sage]

holy shit

😭

[sterile pewter]

https://tenor.com/view/pour-drink-pouring-alcohol-respect-gif-9283896756814937503

[eternal pilot]

did you try entering the arena then exiting?

[carmine comet]

RIP me

[hasty ginkgo]

is the jaguar task bugged?

[timid sage]

that's so fucking funny

[carmine comet]

I don't have NPC Contact at the moment for the one recommending that

[timid sage]

U have to be the unluckiest person in the world

[supple minnow]

Though they still have to spend the time collecting stuff that butler does and doesnt retrieve though

[small flower]

time to get 99 mage XD

[burnt sentinel]

can you go in and out like the main game

[carmine comet]

Good thing I have a big slayer task to grind out mage!

[cursive glacier]

Huh? I dont understand that sentence

[supple minnow]

Reroll another acc, or, dont slay for a while.
However, maxing slayer xp on jad is a huge flex

[supple minnow]

Like, mine 100 runite

[burnt sentinel]

going in and out of the fight caves acts as an attempt and removes one tzhar task in the main game

[supple minnow]

Chop a bazillion yews

[burnt sentinel]

worth a try

[cursive glacier]

Yea but thats true with transmute too

[supple minnow]

Nuuu dont tell him

[timid sage]

only have to do it 199 times

[supple minnow]

Yes, however, now, you can transmute uhhhh

[cursive glacier]

So since its not a factor in deciding between butler and transmute

[marble kestrel]

without thinking about other relics and region is larcenist gp making just parking at your best npc or gem stall selling gems inidividually?

[burnt sentinel]

you could also check if the jad challanges count

[supple minnow]

Forgot what it was i transmuted thst I didnt expect to be able to

[timid sage]

199 jads on the wall

[burnt sentinel]

you get atleasst two jads per attempts

[supple minnow]

Snape grass seeds

[carmine comet]

you a real one for that tho it killed the whole task

[timid sage]

o shit huge

[carmine comet]

sorry to disappoint all

[supple minnow]

Wrath runes

[small flower]

o nice

[burnt sentinel]

im happy for u

nice

[carmine comet]

but 1 was enough, not doing 199 more jads lol

[supple minnow]

Nuuu

[cursive glacier]

Dont you need 2 jad?

[timid sage]

happy u got freed but part of me wanted to see it

[supple minnow]

199 hours of no jad

[cursive glacier]

1 for inferno and 1 for city?

[supple minnow]

Boo

199 infernal capes

[shy ruin]

got all the way to wave 63 just for jad to FUCKING one shot me

very fun

[timid sage]

getting to city doesn't consume

& only have to show once

[shy umbra]

yo

im in deep

[smoky raft]

shoulda prayed, knucklehead

[shy umbra]

took two days off work

i need 2 weeks

[supple minnow]

Hey now pal, blindbagging flex on jad to make it pray melee for its own life

[eternal pilot]

any recomended weapons after dscim that wont take a melee build to get lol

[shy ruin]

i love when attacks land before their animation, a very fun and not horribly archaic system

[smoky raft]

jad's attacks land after the animation starts

you've got a good amount of time to react

[shy ruin]

like, 1 tick after the animation starts

[cursive glacier]

Thank fuck rs3 changed it so prayers are calced when the hitsplat actually hits

[supple minnow]

Oof, sounds like you missed by 1 whole cycle.

I quit rs for 2 years after dying twice with sweaty hands

[timid sage]

we have both

more content is projectile than is hitscan

[supple minnow]

I never understood how it saw the future

[shy umbra]

yeah leviathan threw me for a loop

[shy ruin]

osrs will never change to this objectively better system because muh we have to leave old shitty content exactly as it is

[shy umbra]

would that be runescape 3.5

[timid sage]

it would make the test of skill content too easy

[smoky raft]

this sounds like salt

[supple minnow]

Technically, thatd be on runelite if you werent on og client

[shy ruin]

the test of skill being... knowing the future

[timid sage]

if you can pray as things hit you inferno would be a joke

[cursive glacier]

Os skill expression is in clicking the right tile and clicking the right prayer on the right ticks

[errant crescent]

Whats a good way to get wrath runes if one does not have a runecraft specific relic?

[supple minnow]

Id like bigger buttons

[supple minnow]

Transmute

[shy umbra]

osrs is harder than rs3 combat tbh

[timid sage]

knowing when enemies attack and the speed, & how to manipulate line of sight to not get stacked by different styles

[supple minnow]

Rs3 is roleplay

[cursive glacier]

Overall id probably agree

[shy umbra]

have done a lot of the end game rs3, its a blast but just a little more attainable

[errant crescent]

I dont have transmute

[shy umbra]

anyway leagues dude

[supple minnow]

Welpppp

[shy umbra]

i am obsessed

[shy ruin]

yeah, i did all that perfectly (i made it to jad only using 1 sarodomin brew) but it fucked me over because i missed 1 tick and boom one shot shouldve known the future knucklehead

[shy umbra]

just respecced to 1t staff build

[spring mason]

No wrath runes for you unless you took Vorkath @errant crescent

[smoky raft]

now you're getting it!

[timid sage]

i'm fairly certain jad has the most generous tickeat window in the game fwiw

[supple minnow]

Hahaha it sucks when I screw up. Idk how youre taking it rn but do it again

[shy ruin]

nah its 1am im doing it tmrw

[supple minnow]

Tick eat stadium

[cursive glacier]

Jad also has very generous animations before you have to pray, for os at least

[shy ruin]

im bringing more prayer pots tho i used almost all of them and almost none of my heals

[small flower]

might spend my first respec on that to try it out before going back to blindbag, probably pick up the garg staff first or something

[smoky raft]

it's also leagues

you can very easily just put it off for another few pacts and come back overpowered

[signal pecan]

having done it in both games, i dont rly think rs3 jad is mechanically any different

[smoky raft]

I did my fire cape with 3t water surge in full blue moon with a dhw

[supple minnow]

The mej staff?

[shy ruin]

is it possible to brute force jad and ignore the healers? because i died from paying attention to the healers

[smoky raft]

have you done jad in the main game

[signal pecan]

jad still guarantees 100% protection with the right prayer

[supple minnow]

Mej staff is also 2h

[cursive glacier]

Not really no, just more time to pray correctly

[shy ruin]

no lol

[small flower]

what? gargoyle staff, the echo power staff

[signal pecan]

really? i swear it feels about the same

[smoky raft]

figured as much. Healers are usually dealt with in a specific way

[signal pecan]

is rs3 jad on hit?

[shy ruin]

this is my first time encountering jad

[smoky raft]

generally, you only want to aggro one healer between each attack. You may feel like you have time for two but it's not worth it

[cursive glacier]

Yes, like everything in rs3

[supple minnow]

Or, those taking food relic, easy life lmao

[signal pecan]

i ought to know this by now, my mistake

[shy ruin]

how do i get the healers on his other side without getting jad out of the safespot?

[smoky raft]

pray, tag healer. pray, tag healer. repeat until all are tagged.

In the main game you'd then usually pull the healers to another side of a rock while jad gets stuck because he is large

[supple minnow]

Run and pray right

[signal pecan]

ive done aod and wasn't aware of that

[shy ruin]

i do need to safespot jad right?

[supple minnow]

You can position, only focus on prayer.

[shy umbra]

yeah i switched to 1t staff for CG/Echo Hunleff...not going well

[supple minnow]

Which staff is it

[shy umbra]

the CG attuned staff

[supple minnow]

Ah

[shy umbra]

you basically have to do prayer pen build

[supple minnow]

Why

[carmine comet]

I've used Chins in the past to pull their attention with the AoE hit, but biggest thing is switch prayers and tag the healers off Jad, I usually just tank the healers* after that

[smoky raft]

it's generally a good idea to pick a rotation where jad spawns in the southeast corner. Rotation 5 is best for learners imo

[small flower]

one thing to note, that thing doesn't use charges, so basically the entire mage tree aside from speed will do nothing for it

[supple minnow]

If enemies dont have prayer what are you penning? I thought that was a kalphite spec

[shy ruin]

im just gonna watch avideo on jad later

[shy umbra]

yes i learned this the hard way 🙁

[small flower]

ah

[supple minnow]

2x attack rate seems better for blindbag. As long as your bag is all double splats

[small flower]

ideal build if only caring about CG is probably... something like this? for 20 points?

[supple minnow]

Whats pray pen specialization against?

[small flower]

hunlef

[supple minnow]

Cg has enemy pray im guessing

[small flower]

would also be useful for demonic rillas

[supple minnow]

Interesting

[shy umbra]

yeah looks good. i chose to hedge my bets and not fully spec into prayer but i regret it

[cursive glacier]

is there any point to using compost on a tree you've protected?

[shy umbra]

no