leagues-general

[hasty ginkgo]

Do you know the combat style you'll be choosing?

[small flower]

yea feels like t5 and t7 are given at t4/6

[torpid umbra]

Oh ok so no need to rush t7 anymore

[cursive glacier]

ive never done rumours before but ive gotten 3 levels so far and no drop

[small flower]

but think of flow state!

[cursive glacier]

not really dry yet but was just double checking in case i was wastin time

[karmic oracle]

Not really, I'm absoltely lost. I'm leaning towards melee or mage

[hasty ginkgo]

So at least in my opinion if you go mage you'll want tranmutation for easy runes, but if you go melee which I am, I've been enojying the bell myself

[ripe turtle]

where are people getting the dragon shield from?

[small flower]

it might be affected by the drop rate at t4, idk for sure, i got all my drops after hitting t4, but i suppose i also didn't do as many rumours before it? 🤷 , i definitely got way more excess pieces by the end, no concern about not getting the outfit

[cursive glacier]

any slayer master

[light hazel]

I'm having the same dilemma. Taken in conjunction with my other planned perks (EH, Hotfool, and Soul Harvest), Butler only solves planks, bowstrings, and unf potions while Transmute only really solves magic, crafting (which is easy already with gems and Priff), and farming.

[dusk cedar]

i've changed my tactic. the quest helper thing told me to buy tuna and swordfish for the task. but other tasks are catching the fish. so i'm doing that instead.

[karmic oracle]

Thanks! Bell might also might get 50m passively for some skills throughout the duration of the Leagues or is it wishful thinking?

[small flower]

not really something that even needs "solving" transmute gets you unlimited tokkul tho

[dusk cedar]

hopefully it doesn't take too long.

[hasty ginkgo]

Ummm you could get close most like in one or two skills, but at least xp wise I noticed its good, but not great. Again I am being very casual with this league, and I am up to 5500 points.

[jovial tiger]

i got a jellies task with just morty unlocked.... what?

[cursive glacier]

bell is pretty nice, but so is transmute. I dont regret bell but i think transmute is very cool too

[karmic oracle]

Are you getting butler?

[karmic oracle]

I believe there's jellies in ice dungeon in Valramore

[small flower]

yea there's odd variants

varlamores got some funky guys

[light hazel]

Haven't picked yet, still agonizing over the desicion.

[steady cosmos]

Would anyone happen to be here in leagues doing gotr right now?

[twilit halo]

hey does any one know many tasks it takes to unlock each of the 3 regions?

[karmic oracle]

So I'm just overthinking lol?

[steady cosmos]

doing it solo is super painful

[small flower]

80 for karamja, idk for second cuz i waited so long to unlock karamja that i already had second ready to go, and 300 for second region

[jovial tiger]

is there a perdue variant somewhere?

[hasty ginkgo]

For the lower point racks yes, obviously if you want to go dragon tier its better to have a plan for everything, but I am just going with my choices and having fun lol

[twilit halo]

im just unlocked my first area, but idk if i should pick kandarin or zeah first? opinions?

[small flower]

zeah is probably the more comprehensive first pick, got a whole lot more choice on what you wanna do

you'll have kandarin by the time you have slayer for thermy anyway

[cursive sparrow]

just unlocked mory and can't get ghostspeak ammy lmao gg

[old tapir]

yeah you get tier 6 and region 2 about at the same time so you can jump straight into kandarin slayer

[karmic oracle]

I might do that and not sweat it so much, I could've gotten the points already if I wasn't having analysis paralysis

[twilit halo]

i barley started any combat yet tho

[light hazel]

Counterargument, Kandarin has so many layup tasks that you could get your second region quickly

[small flower]

yea, dont sweat it that much, if your goals are lower anyway just pick for what would affect what you wanna be doing

[lethal coyote]

I have no idea what my goals are
What should I be doing?

[low tangle]

anyone found a general route for the wildy area?

[small flower]

whatever you wanna do

[cursive glacier]

my goals are to have fun and get 40 pact points

[cursive sparrow]

anyone know the fastest tp to an altar? got mory unlocked

[pure karma]

yeah but i still need something to alch/transmute

[timid sage]

fire runes

[lethal coyote]

I've never really interacted with Members content, so I do not know what will be fun
I just want to blast magic everywhere and look cool doing it
Right now I don't even have magic armor

[timid sage]

fire->chaos->nature and u 20x ur money at rune shops

[sudden flicker]

anyone know if there is a mass callisto world anywhere

[timid sage]

stock up like 30k runes and let it ride

[timid sage]

isn't easy diary inpossible currently?

[small flower]

what relics? there's a pretty good one with the quetzal whistle

[light hazel]

If my goal is Dragon, should I be picking Butler or Transmute if my regions are KT(Z or W), I have EH and Hotfoot, and I plan on getting Larcenist, Culling, Soul Harvest, Minion in that order? Combat focus is probably mage or whatever is easiest for baby's first PvM

[cursive sparrow]

barb/forager/eye/transmute

[small flower]

if you had hunter for moonlight moths, you can basically refill prayer at amoxliatl

[cursive sparrow]

also, have any jmods said anything about the inaccessible ghostspeak ammy?

[light hazel]

Phosani teleport maybe? just looking at a map so I don't have full context

[small flower]

oh, did say mory

[low tangle]

is there a mass huey world at all

[cursive sparrow]

oooh yeah that looks like a good shout ty

[timid sage]

666-668

666 is usually packed soi did 668

[low tangle]

didnt even realise huey was a demonic pact point until now 😭

[timid sage]

brah...

no way u did echo moxy down a point

[low tangle]

tbf

moxy is really easy

[timid sage]

true but the lack of dps is so cancer

no pots no piety

rawdogging the boss with rune mace

[low tangle]

im using the obby mace

[warped turtle]

how do you get a skull in wild

[timid sage]

isn't obby mace worse dps even

[small flower]

poke someone

[timid sage]

unless blind bad proccin

[violet dome]

does hotfoot "100% success rate on all actions for agility" mean you can cheese no-fail hallowed sepulchre?

[low tangle]

idk

[timid sage]

oh shit i need obby mace for blind bag

truth

[low tangle]

i was trying to buy obby armor but i couldnt so i got the mace lol

[low tangle]

no

[light hazel]

I'd argue most of the challenges in Sepulchure are movement and not agility so I want to say no cheese

[low tangle]

projectiles in sepulchre arent an agility check

[timid sage]

the only cheese for sep is last stand

and they removed it

[violet dome]

i miss gridmaster

thank you for the info

[timid sage]

man i need to farm some points

like 700 of t5

and then i can start farming and making pots

[smoky raft]

20 blue moon kc still no drop

[low tangle]

pft hueys a joke

[lone bloom]

most are already t8 by now lol

[low tangle]

i would be further in the league but my internets been so shit recently

[timid sage]

not even rank 1 is t8 yet 💀

[smoky raft]

pft, you're still on T8? catch up, loser

[timid sage]

u cannot ragebait me

Also i have barely played

[spring cipher]

yay demonic pack gained

[timid sage]

mage build

[smoky raft]

🎉

[timid sage]

u make me sick

[spring cipher]

LOL

im going full machine gun

i did melee last leagues anyways

[low tangle]

the game doesnt even let me hop worlds 💀

[timid sage]

melee is bis this time

blind bag > all

[low tangle]

melee is not bis this time...

[timid sage]

nothing beats blind bag 5x elder maul

[low tangle]

is there even 5 unique elder mauls

[small flower]

for potential sure

but that's pretty low chance

[timid sage]

u can stack the same weapon

[cursive sparrow]

nah use 5 unique weapons then as many of the weapon you want more hits from

[small flower]

theres no point to 5 elder mauls

[low tangle]

i thought they said it has to be unique

[small flower]

it has to be unique to increase the chance

[cursive sparrow]

5 elder mauls will show up on hits more than 1

[small flower]

if you have 5 elder mauls

tis the exact same damage as if it was 1

[cursive sparrow]

nope

5 unique to increase proc chance

[timid sage]

ahh right

[cursive sparrow]

then that proc chooses a weapon in invent

[small flower]

5 elder mauls is 1 unique item

[cursive sparrow]

dude read again

5 unique weapons + 20 elder mauls

elder maul will be used most

[small flower]

ok... sure

[cursive sparrow]

someone literally posted a video earlier doing it

[small flower]

you're indeed right on that lol

[cursive sparrow]

with obby mauls

[small flower]

but kinda pointless

[low tangle]

oh god ive left the stupid british worlds i can play the game again

[timid sage]

the entire league is pointless man

[small flower]

i guess if you wanna run around with 25 weapons in inventory it would certainly boost it very slightly

[timid sage]

let the fun havers fun have

[small flower]

ain't knockin it, he's right, just a lot of work for it

[timid sage]

c'est la vie

wait omfg

[small flower]

if you love cox go for it

[smoky raft]

5 more kills and I'm swapping to dragon mace + dragon sq. It's 75% of the DPS of glacial temotli on paper but with how many ticks I'm losing to eating and blue moon's curse passive I'll probably end up with the same or even better damage lmao

[low tangle]

also is there a way to stop the level pop ups

[bright juniper]

am i missing something about how moons works, the infernal tecpatls on stab did like negative damage to eclipse

[smoky raft]

addy plate is NOT doing it for me rn

[timid sage]

Do dh axe bling bags use the set effect?

[small flower]

if you're wearing the armor yes

[smoky raft]

eclipse has positive flat armor

[timid sage]

eclipse moon has hella flat armour iirc

like +7 or smth

[bright juniper]

brutal

didnt know that

[timid sage]

dude... fuck yes

20 dh axe for the turbo bomb

[peak dagger]

anybody have any recommendations for what area to pick first for light melee/thorns?

[small flower]

so wearing armor and just mainhanding a scythe or w/e

[smoky raft]

you want to use single hit weapons. Alternatively, bring a very slow, very strong 2h weapon and absolutely nuke the bastard during clone phase

[small flower]

the axes in inventory still proc with boost

[timid sage]

that's so fucking fire

[small flower]

if you watch the bb animation it basically literally has you attacking with the weapon

[timid sage]

u never know with jagex spaghetti

[small flower]

tru

that was confirmed tho

[timid sage]

i maxed a 15 with addy scim from blindbag a while ago and was so lost

[low tangle]

just got larcenist ill see u fellas at 200mil xp later

[timid sage]

ball

im prob doing zeah mory and undecided

[small flower]

clutch leo pushing me last 10 points to t6 😄

[late helm]

Guys should I go larcinist or natures accordion?

[scenic creek]

it feels criminal to be downgrading ranarr seeds to guam seeds

[small flower]

are you kandarin or tirranwyn?

[scenic creek]

but it must be done

[timid sage]

i'm really good at toa so desert would be a good pick but i'm like 100 dry main game so i cba

[low tangle]

nvm i keep getting kicked from the game 😭

[timid sage]

also blazing tombs fucking sucks

[wary needle]

wooooooooooooooooooooooo

hows thwegrind biys!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

boys

n gals

enjoying>?????????????

pretty fun huh

mage is nuts

hahahahahaha

🙂

[scenic creek]

[timid sage]

i was so excited to try blazing tombs last time for some shenanigans and i was crushed when i found out it's just +200 invo with no mechanics

[late helm]

Haven’t decided yet - if I am going Bluetooth nally build mory last, is it trolling to go wildy? Or should I just go tirawin?

[low tangle]

oh rip i cant even do most of the thieving tasks

[late helm]

Also if people go larcinist, how do they solved farming and herblore?

[timber sluice]

My thoughts process is wild + desert for xbow & masori, but then I have to do toa

[small flower]

tir is technically gonna get you best armor for damage, but i'd just pick what you think you'd have fun in

[low tangle]

lamps or transmutation

[late helm]

Oh right! I have transmutation

[timid sage]

desert and tir are dead picks for me i would rather do slave labour than cg or toa

[late helm]

But does transmutation solve herblore?

[low tangle]

u can transmute seeds

[small flower]

kinda where i'm at with cox, dclaw specfest sounds fun, but i just can't

[late helm]

Is tir best first pick? What are most people going for regions for blue tooth nally build?

[low tangle]

ok i think im gonna have to close discord everytime i open it my game disconnects

[smoky raft]

well, desert has Tourist Trap, so you could always do toa AND slave labour

[late helm]

But does that speed up herblore? It feels so slow rn

[small flower]

idk, i'm a weirdo and gonna be trying to do tecpatls as primary

[late helm]

What’s that?

[small flower]

the amox echo item

[late helm]

Ooooh

Which regions are you going?

[small flower]

tir mory asg

[late helm]

Ooooh!

[small flower]

probably taking tir last

[late helm]

I might try tir->mory

Is wildy only good for a first region? Like if I am going tirawin

[small flower]

uhh, it would be a good first or second, lotta supplies available throughout ,is fine whenever really

[west needle]

does anyone know if rumour blocking is working in leagues? ive got red chins active on a lower tier but get them from wolf

[sick owl]

Does woodsman straight up just not work?

[small flower]

it definitely works, what part of it doesn't look like it to you?

[smoky raft]

yes. Woddsman is unemployed

[sick owl]

Traps not giving seeds, failing traps etc

[small flower]

box traps definitely only have like a 99% success rate

just dont stand on them

the seeds should be going to your bank though

[weary drift]

am thinking if I should go clues or larc, regions are ZWA and crossbows, larc would just be for gp and some crafting/thieving but gp is also my main way to solve constr, idk is transmute will give enough to solve it without it being a giant pos

[sick owl]

wait

is this true

[small flower]

yes

[verbal mica]

i already unlocked karamja, should i just skip the hunter rumour to 99 hunter meta?

[sick owl]

Hugely possible I am the fool here

[small flower]

yea just check bank you should have a whole bunch

[west needle]

you should be able to block graahks and its be fine

[sick owl]

Thanks man I appreciate it

[mighty zodiac]

locked out of slayer forever because hill giants ;-;

[toxic vortex]

Bruh

[small flower]

my relic picks definitely overlapped a lot

[toxic vortex]

There are hill giants in varlamore @mighty zodiac

[sick owl]

Just go kill hill giants? what

[small flower]

larceny-woodsman-transmute covers more seeds than i can imagine

[west needle]

getting chins when i have them on a lower tier -- i mightve hecced it up though ill double check,

[late helm]

What are the benefits of going Kandarin vs wildy vs tirawin second?

[mighty zodiac]

The problem isn't that there's no hill giants. The problem is there's only 6 hill giants lol

[toxic vortex]

Okay?

[mighty zodiac]

it's competition

[sick owl]

just tag them

its multi

[toxic vortex]

So you aren't locked.

[small flower]

uhh, honestly grant had a pretty good point, worth picking what you could push for tasks with to just go ahead and unlock the next region as well

[covert wolf]

blindbag went crazy a bit

[mighty zodiac]

doesn't count towards slayer

[sick owl]

It sure does

[toxic vortex]

It does

[small flower]

i think my answer just always comes down to, "what do you wanna do right now, pick that region"

you'll get the other 2 soon enough

[mighty zodiac]

wait i thought slayer as an ironman was that you couldn't get credit if someone else had helped

[small flower]

yes

[toxic vortex]

You don't get drops

And with all of the world's for leagues you shouldn't have much trouble finding one with a couple of free spawns

[sick owl]

you get half exp and no drops but it does work thankfully

[steady cosmos]

anyone doing guardians of the rift

[mighty zodiac]

gonna have to revisit the hill giants then for slayer lol

[steady cosmos]

or else

know how i can find a group

[mighty zodiac]

afking at gem rocks rn anyway lol

[static arch]

gout tuber 2nd bush, pog

[willow isle]

getting a ket shield in 4 kills is good right?

[supple minnow]

almst had it we, we seent ya

[small flower]

ket?

[supple minnow]

ob xil

[willow isle]

toktz-ket-xil

[small flower]

o

[tawdry carbon]

is there a quest helper in the game

[supple minnow]

always can do better

[tawdry carbon]

im struggling with reading the quest scorll and then doing the steps

and the wiki tabbing is rough

[timid sage]

do you have runelite

[tawdry carbon]

yea

[timid sage]

there's a quest helper helper plugin on there

[tawdry carbon]

i have it on

[willow isle]

lol i just got another one gime the cape god damn it

[weary shadow]

on the right side should be an icon

looks like the quest icon

[agile apex]

can you get a rev task in leagues? ive skipped like 20 times and havent seen a single one in the selection of 3

[tight jay]

two questions, for flow state it just makes those actions happen faster and doesn't have any benefits otherwise. So it is a relic for people who don't have a lot of time to play and get more done in there limited time. Then if I skip larcenist and go soul harvest, is there a solve for thieving or just find the best xp per hour

[supple minnow]

imagine mining rune ess, at 1.2/s

[cyan cobalt]

It's finally time

Relic4 unlocked

Big decision moment

[timid sage]

i'm a big transmute fan

basically get everything you want

[cyan cobalt]

See this is the dilemma for me. Transmute or Butler

[timid sage]

from what i've gathered butler is good for afkers

ppl without a lot of time to play

[cyan cobalt]

I want to take transmute, but butler would be great for construction, herblore and me working a busy job

[timid sage]

transmute is good for herb too

can change your seeds at will

[dreamy sand]

so transmute spells aren't consuming natures?

[cyan cobalt]

You can hold the off-hand book for transmute

infinite nature

[dreamy sand]

it says it costs 1 nature but i've just made about 50 death runes from natures and didn't cost me anything

[dreamy sand]

wait offhand book gives infinite natures?

Good to know but i don't have it equipped

[cyan cobalt]

Yeah whatever that is, the ledger?

[dreamy sand]

neat.

doesn't explain why i have inf natures though when i'm not holding it

[shy ruin]

how does the butler work when you ask him to process herbs? does he just clean them or does he make unf potions?

[old tapir]

nature talisman from a hill giant?

[shy ruin]

and do you get herblore xp from it?

[dreamy sand]

unless i've regenned literally 100% of the time out of sheer luck?

[supple minnow]

kill buffalos while transmuting 10 at a time, then bury and pickup whats on the ground you didnt transmute

[supple minnow]

transmute item is natures

like tome of natures basically

[old tapir]

it works from the inventory

[supple minnow]

yup

fairymushroom also op too

tele to tool leprechauns, pocket-fairy ring (no need for staff anymore) and spirit tree tele in your pocket

its no longer farm runs, it's just, squish the mushroom

[tawdry carbon]

is there a way to check my current rumour

[tranquil pond]

the whistle

[pliant temple]

right click quetzal whistle

[dreamy sand]

i'm not holding it

it's not affecting me(or it shouldn't)

[tawdry carbon]

what whistle

[pliant temple]

quetzal whistle

[tranquil pond]

quetzal whistle you get for doing rumours

[tawdry carbon]

i didnt get one\ from the quest

[pliant temple]

anyone know of a good bones to bank spot in varlamor or tir

[tawdry carbon]

this guy told me go catch tropical wagtails ive never done these before

[toxic vortex]

He can do either

[tawdry carbon]

do i ahve to do rumours till iget the whistle

[tranquil pond]

what's the best way to get tokkul, selling gems from gem stall or rune ore i assume?

[toxic vortex]

He can gather grimy herbs at 10/min, or process them in to unfinished potions at 5/min

[worldly stream]

is it worth only killing one barrows brother for a certain set instead of all 6 of them?

[small flower]

larceny+transmute, definitely the ore stall

[tranquil pond]

assuming no transmute, then what

[small flower]

larceny still tho?

[tranquil pond]

yeah

[small flower]

ore still i think

it sells for more per unit

and if you're only getting 10 per steal anyway

seems a win

[tranquil pond]

gotcha, so either way i'd need to beat jad

[small flower]

well if you've got a cash fix there's always just funneling chaos runes into the guy in the upper part of tzhaar

[shy ruin]

does processing them give herblore xp?

[remote cove]

when does runelite log me out? I set it to 30minutes, but what constitues 30 minutes? do I just gotta move my camera or reclick the ore? just afk mining to 99 now

[tranquil pond]

how does it compare to just selling the uncut gems from something like the ardy stall though

selling the gems for money, then buying chaos, then selling chaos seems like a lot of work

[small flower]

i think chaos wins out there too?

[tranquil pond]

hm, fair enough

[small flower]

well

idk the cash conversion you got going for gem to cash to chaos i guess

[toxic vortex]

It most certainly does

[tranquil pond]

honestly, i'm just trying to not kill my fingers or my mouse

[small flower]

XD

[covert wolf]

dam

[small flower]

that's fair

[tranquil pond]

god bless butler

[shy ruin]

huge

[small flower]

a chaos sells for a lil less than an uncut ruby

[toxic vortex]

Pretty much. Move the camera, re-click the rock. Both would work

Type in chat

[small flower]

(i'm assuming gloves here, they're easy enough to get)

[remote cove]

ok cool got it!

also uh, any discord or chat I can join for size 8 shooting stars

[small flower]

ok yea, 100%

selling cut gems, buying chaos

selling chaos for tokkul

at like... 10:1, it's a fair bit more efficient

[weary shadow]

Is Elemental Workshop 2 possible?

[tawdry carbon]

im freaking out cuz i dont know if my hunter rumour is active lol

[small flower]

if you go talk to the guy who gives it he'll tell you

[toxic vortex]

Or if you have a whistle

[tawdry carbon]

whats thea vg rate for the rare hunter item

dont have whistle yet =/

like i thought he said embertail

but ive caught 50 now

[glass hornet]

If it's the Jeroba it's 100

[tawdry carbon]

ok ill stay to 100

i dont know why tehy dont give u the whistle off rip

slayer gives u the gem

[glass hornet]

You do get it automatically after 10 rumors

[tawdry carbon]

should i leave to check if i have the rumour afte r100 tails

[thorn marsh]

With Endless and Hotfoot, how viable is, like, selling platebodies or whatevs to the blacksmith for making money..? I'd have to process the bars, but I can just make a few hundred AFK mining and then just use the anvil in Auburnvale..

[grim veldt]

anyone know if its possible to get a ghost speak amulet in mory?

[visual berry]

dont the diary legs act as one

[timid sage]

only at t3

[glass hornet]

After you turn in your tail, there should be a game message to tell you how many rumors you've done so far

[cursive glacier]

Its fine, but probably worse than cutting gems tbh

[thorn marsh]

Oof..

[cursive glacier]

Until you got high level metals at least

But also mining high level metals is kinda slow

[dense perch]

Well im up 13 hours in 2 days and I still haven't got my 4th relic

[small flower]

my 25k steel bars will sit in my bank and rot

[thorn marsh]

I've got the smithing level to process Mithril bars into goods..

[dense perch]

Grandpa gamer

[thorn marsh]

I could just sit at a rock for a few hours to get the smithing from Hotfot, though..

Cutting gems is so fucking slow.. ;_;

[dense perch]

I just mined until I had 5k bone shards and went crazy

Im thinking mory after karamja

Then just afk barrows for 40 days

[small flower]

who knows, if you're lucky you'll finish a set

[old tapir]

what a slog

[cursive glacier]

Each ruby is 600 profit. A mith plat is what, like 3k?

[dense perch]

Im stuck at fire giants

[thorn marsh]

I have to process platebodies, though, which is slower than just spam buying and selling gems..

[visual berry]

echo orb and echo weapon pity is 50 kills each?

[dense perch]

Adamant 2hrs stole all the safe spots

[cursive glacier]

Yea, at addy its probably better than gems tho

[thorn marsh]

Yea, I'm considering just going for it..

[dense perch]

I just need 1 dragon knife

And then I have effectively infinite dragon knife ammo

[cursive glacier]

Its not all about gp, you get smithing xp doing mith too which is nice

Vs crafting xp for cutting gems

[timid sage]

crafting xp >

since u need for shit like fury

[thorn marsh]

I get smithing exp from Hotfoot just sitting on an Iron rock, and I get Crafting from the butler..

[timid sage]

and regen

[thorn marsh]

Both skills are already solved for me..

[small flower]

crafting probably more useful early? just cuz fury/regen?

idk

up to you really

[thorn marsh]

I can just buy an Onyx in Mor Ul Rek, right..?

[small flower]

yes

300k tokkul

or w/e the discount is

[supple minnow]

over abundance + hotfoot or whatever gives you agility exp for moving, would be hilarious because every step you take.. (i'll be watchin', jk) you print gp

[thorn marsh]

I have Endless Harvest, not Abundance..

[supple minnow]

right js

[tawdry carbon]

for butterfly rumor do i need jar

or can i barehand and let it fly

[timid sage]

can barehand

jars r nice if it's a good butterfly tho

[tawdry carbon]

what is rate

[timid sage]

1/100 i'm pretty sure

[tawdry carbon]

its a snwoy knight

what makes a good butterfly

[timid sage]

snowy knight isn't bad

functions as a 1 dose brew

[old tapir]

so does a shark

[timid sage]

stuff like moonlight moths that can be used as prayer pots

[tawdry carbon]

ah i have lots of prayer pots

[timid sage]

shark has eat delay

Snowy knights are huge for speed tasms

no stat drain no eat delay

[stray dove]

what special weapon are people using for task the dragon dagger

[low tangle]

is there a specific chest im supposed to loot for rogues?

[spring cipher]

idk

also

[spring cipher]

hi

😃

[covert night]

whats best new region after karmja for blidn bag meele build?

and why

[timber sluice]

unsure if its a bug but it requires medium diary, which you can't complete due to no access to edge dungeon

[lapis flax]

does anyone know where to get vyre noble clothing from? its not in the chest in old man rals house

[timid sage]

zeah is nice if u wanna grind slayer

[covert night]

????

[timid sage]

fero gloves, cox (eldermaul+scy), lizardmen if ur a psycho for dwh

[old tapir]

tirr, especially with larcenist, because having full crystal with blessing for when you jump into morytania afterwards makes mory far less of a slow pain

[timid sage]

regen to feros is like

+8 str and accuracy

[lapis flax]

nvm sins of the father isnt auto completed

[old tapir]

tempted to make a ring of wealth just for the coin pickup

i hate seeing like... piles of 37 coins everywhere

[supple minnow]

does it need to be charged for that effect?

[old tapir]

no

[light hazel]

Took transmute, did I just blow it? My ores come pre-smelted, my fish come pre-cooked, and it seems like every single interaction in the game stops the auto transmute. Doesn't matter that I could theoretically boost seeds some tiers and i don't currently have a source of those

[old tapir]

we could argue transmute vs bell all week given this and that choice lol

[livid slate]

Just stick with transmute and reload into bell

[shy ruin]

can anyone explain why larcenist is good? i see some streamers have taken it but idk why, thieving seems already really easy?

[tawny plover]

stupid question -- what's the point of leagues? What do you get rewarded with/for when it's over?

TRying to decide if it's worth investing my time in or not.

[old tapir]

bell is probably better if you're not going for a magic build

[shy ruin]

for fun bro

[spring cipher]

it also comes with free 99 crafting

[shy ruin]

bro has no whimsy

[old tapir]

games are played for fun

[small flower]

it does somewhat depend on regions, but it makes a couple things incredibly fast

if tirr, it's stupid easy 50m smithing/crafting

if mory, it's effectively unlimited bloodfury charges, it can also be a replacement for fishing if you're also transmute and have fish stalls

gets you easy tokkul as well

[old tapir]

i hope we get another gridmaster with the league 6 relics

it was really fun seeing how far you could push the game when you had basically every relic instead of just one from each tier

[timid sage]

give us a league with 0 region locking

[slim crag]

Good lord.

[timid sage]

get an interesting gimmick for oncw

[south knoll]

can you get combat achievement rewards without asg for warriors guild?

[old tapir]

you'll like the rs3 league if this is what you want

[spring cipher]

didnt a league like that exist and failed

[timid sage]

no because rs3 is an mmo

[old tapir]

and osrs is a single palyer game, we know

:p

[timid sage]

The only reason i play this game is because every other mmo has fucking awful combat

[timid sage]

no just the combat

ppl who say it's singleplayer should be fed to wolves

I hate ironmen

[old tapir]

well actually there's an osrs combat mode you can turn on

and its alright

[timid sage]

meh

doesn't work properly because the game is just fundamentally different

[old tapir]

valid

most of the bosses also somewhat expect you to hit abilities you don't get with that mode on also

but its not too bad to learn

[timid sage]

it just had a worse gimmick

[ripe turtle]

yeah having ignored perilous moons since they were added in the main game

[old tapir]

you can start with the game just firing off every ability for you except ones you need to do in response to mechanics

[ripe turtle]

i will now never be doing them ever

[old tapir]

and then slowly press more buttons yourself as you get comfortable

[timid sage]

there must be a sweet spot for a gimmick that isn't uber cancer

[timid sage]

it's not about learning it's just genuinely not fun gameplay

[young goblet]

did they move the makeover mage?

[timid sage]

wow ff14 all those games are just unplayable

[ripe turtle]

shattered relics league sucked because you didn't have to make any committments ever

got rid of what makes leagues fun, which is the hard choices and weird methods

[smoky raft]

goraks lowered my fuckin fishing level

[timid sage]

But those aren't fun is the problem

[ripe turtle]

sit n00b

[timid sage]

this is a game against fomo

[ripe turtle]

then leagues isn't the gamemode for u

[timid sage]

wyd making unique content for every region then letting people only have 3 regions

[ripe turtle]

[timid sage]

Also jagex is weird for not making new echo bosses this year

strange choice

[old tapir]

perhaps not enough time

[livid slate]

They did? Amox?

[ripe turtle]

something something $15

[timid sage]

1 boss of 9

[tawdry carbon]

if i unlock kourend will i start to get hunter rumours there?

[timid sage]

they had the time to make brand new weapons for all of them

[old tapir]

fire giant task lets goooo

[timid sage]

had the time to make an entire arg with their new poster boy

[old tapir]

love things with big elemental weaknesses

[timid sage]

[timid sage]

it's not

[tawdry carbon]

anyone know?

[timid sage]

but i want to advocate a better experience for the leaguers

[jovial tiger]

They invested all our $15 into leagues, while the main game drowns it's fine

[timid sage]

Bare minimum karamja should not count as a region pick

[livid slate]

I don't know about you, but this experience is pretty solid

[timid sage]

because holy fuck LOL

[small flower]

it's been a freebie guarantee for a while

they just pushed it out a little bit this time

[manic prairie]

is it better to transmute maples up to yew for total xp or cut yews?

[timid sage]

yeah but maybe just turn it into a starter region next time

or add a piece of content

[small flower]

it is?

basically

[tawdry carbon]

next league : no areas, only sailing

https://giphy.com/gifs/crazy-johnny-depp-jack-Efi4MpChuhHtm

[timid sage]

one that doesn't take away a pick

[livid slate]

The point of leagues is to change the existing experience and add a twist

[old tapir]

next league is a sailing league for sure

[livid slate]

Not add new content that we haven't seen before

The fact they made the echo bosses at all is above and beyond to begin wtih, since last league

[small flower]

i mean there was no assumption at any point that we'd be getting 4 regions

[jovial tiger]

Cut yews if you want wc exp, cut maples if you want to transmute to burn/fletch

[timid sage]

i'm aware, but don't pretend karamja is an unlock since it's forced

[livid slate]

It's less than 30 minutes of effort

I don't know what to tell you lol

[timid sage]

you're not understanding my point

[small flower]

imo it's just them getting people to trot around varlamore for a little longer

which is fine

you'd be happier if it was "unlocked" through a different menu?

i'm definitely not getting your point

[timid sage]

just remove it

[jovial tiger]

Can we all just agree that tai Bo wanna kill myself if I have to do this quest again

[timid sage]

4 region unlocks or have karamja + whatever else unlocked at the start

[livid slate]

They literally added an entire skill tree that is customizable and has respeccing

And you're upset you have to pick karamja

[timid sage]

A step in the right direction but it's not enough

[slim crag]

[livid slate]

A step?

[timid sage]

yes

[livid slate]

Brother there is no pleasing you

[robust fern]

It's like three extra clicks, very unreasonable

[timid sage]

dude

[prisma goblet]

Hi everyone, I’m looking for someone one black arm gang for my quest on mobile

[timid sage]

LOL

[small flower]

wrong channel my guy

[timid sage]

no pleasing = "make something new and stop reusing the 5 year old gimmick"

[livid slate]

You play OSRS

It's a 25 year old gimmick

What is your point?

[manic prairie]

is rune axe from tree spirits still a thing?

[timid sage]

They revamped deadman entirely (even if the changes they made were shitty)

[jovial tiger]

I think the point they are trying to make is karmaja as the second unlock is stale as the place has been overused

[tawdry carbon]

yes

[manic prairie]

whats code?

[tawdry carbon]

bkq i think? cant remmeber

/wiki enchanted valley

[timid sage]

the point is that region locking is stale, But if they're intent on keeping it stop foricing karamja

[tawdry carbon]

yeah bkq

[livid slate]

The point is to force planning and solves

If there is no region locking then everything by default is solved

Defeating the entire purpose

[timid sage]

i'm sure jagex can find a different idea

[livid slate]

Totally, it wouldn't be leagues though

[timid sage]

maybe a point cap that you hit and it unlocks everything

novel idea

[livid slate]

It would be something else

[jovial tiger]

They did it was grid man mode

[timid sage]

what about leagues pre trailblazer

were those not leagues

[supple minnow]

dragon battle axe + defense nodes + pots = crazy str stat

[timid sage]

grid was test content for the bingo system

[manic prairie]

im not on endless or barbarian tho .-.

[timid sage]

which they still haven't added actually what's up with that

[livid slate]

If we're talking semantics, sure

if we're talking actual turnout to play the mode, no

[fierce heron]

can you mass corp for leagues and what world are people doing that if so, friend picked wildy and is wondering if thats basicly a free demonic pact

[timid sage]

the turnout is people grind for a week then make one bad relic choice and go back to main game

[small flower]

have they published playercount for league stuff? that'd actually be kinda interesting

[timid sage]

or follow a faux guide for 2 weeks

[livid slate]

Not explicitly, but it's via peak population during play times

[jovial tiger]

Cut willows in Auburn place and bank since it's right there

[livid slate]

Last league and this league have had higher peaks iirc

[timid sage]

u cannot

corp is instanced for ironmen but also only top damge gets kill credit

[sterile robin]

anyone know a good way to get protection prayers fast? only got varla and karamja

[balmy verge]

tecu salamanders dont seem to go to bank with woodsman? I have it active..

[small flower]

they do

[timid sage]

have u done any hunter

[small flower]

oh the immature ones dont

[cursive glacier]

Libation bowl after 30

[balmy verge]

Hmm, good to know. I'll try a different net trap? Or are they all immature

[small flower]

the actual ones are pertty rare

just keep at it

it's like 1/200 even with boosted rate

[balmy verge]

sheesh. I assume the contract makes progress with the immature ones regardless

[small flower]

yea

that would be FOUL if it didnt lol

[balmy verge]

cool cool. Guess it's time to lookup if there's a use for the immatures or if I can just drop them lol

[small flower]

just drop em

the equippable ones are a task too

200 points i think?

[remote cove]

anyone knows if butler has a softcap? and if exp is retroactive or i can get to x12 before collecting

[sinful island]

Anyone know at all hwy drakans medallion and ivandis flail can't br found in their locations w/taste of hope complete in league?

[small flower]

you have x12 at t4, the label for passives is wrong

[balmy verge]

This is great to know! Thanks for the extra info on that 🙂

[remote cove]

oh dang, cool lol, good to know, thank you!

[small flower]

there's a buncha weird lil things this league XD

[remote cove]

is there er a masterlist of bugs? and if the fishing endless is fixed yet?

[small flower]

idk, i hope it gets fixed soon, my alts almost 99 mining, gotta put him back to it

[hexed sphinx]

jagex forgot perdu doesn't exist unless you take asgarnia/kandarin

[silver sundial]

bro magic is so bad omg

i can barely take down a rev pyrefiend with lvl 74 magic (84 magic after boost)

[cursive glacier]

Mage just really need every accuracy node in existence

[silver sundial]

how am i supposed to get a twin flame staff...... like god

magic spells not gonna work on royal titans..

or moons, its all melee shit

[gaunt zodiac]

Hello, Im not sure if this is the right section to post this, but im stuck on the giant dwarf quest in leagues. it says im supposed to talk to Reldo in varrock, but theres no misthalin. any suggestions on how to get around this?

[small flower]

just not gonna be completable unless they update it

[gaunt zodiac]

damn

ok thanks

[muted needle]

how to go to misthalin

[timber sluice]

that's the good part, you don't

[muted needle]

is it locked?

[small flower]

yes

no one gets to go to misthalin

any of you guys with earth warrior tasks ever figure that out? XD

[timber sluice]

hotfixed fortunately

[small flower]

ahh, good

[silver sundial]

worst league yet magic is way too weak

wtf am i gonna do with fire blast upgrading staffs

these early pacts do nothing

[spring cipher]

yea thats the theme of this league, yama torched mistalin

so we cant go there

[weary drift]

do you get brimstone AND larry keys if doing tasks for konar in wildy?

[spring cipher]

aint no way ur saying that

when its one of the strongest brain off builds

infinite healing, overheal and ur basically using a machine gun

[silver sundial]

bro i can barely kill a rev pyrefiend

[weary drift]

bro isnt even using anything from leagues

[silver sundial]

what do you mean machien gun dude its same attack speed as normal

this shit is trash

74 magic and i do no dmg

[solemn kiln]

hey guys, which tasks did you block for rumours?

[silver sundial]

like what dude

[muted needle]

maybe your gears are shit

[spring cipher]

mage build is kinda giga strong

i got firecape 2 days in

lmao

[silver sundial]

how am i supposed to get this gear bud...

[small flower]

to be fair you have no mage acc from armor at all

[muted needle]

the bonuses is a multiplie of what you have so if its 1x1=1

[livid slate]

Funny enough, by not picking wildy first

[small flower]

idk, wildy wouldnt be bad

elder chaos to start

[warped turtle]

wildy first was amazing

[small flower]

go for malediction ward

[livid slate]

For a mage build over K?

[weary drift]

just doing some of the leagues content, getting some points before rushing revs, would say smth like 6-8 points would be where you start really seeing dps increases

[small flower]

well, yea free mystic wins

but it's not bad

[silver sundial]

dont i need 43 prayer....

[livid slate]

You do, but varlamore has a ton of prayer solves with a combination of relics

[silver sundial]

guess ill go safe spot green dragons

use on chaos altar

[robust fern]

Just kill dragons

[muted needle]

bruh kill black demons using water spell under brimhaven it will take you 30mins or less

[sterile robin]

praying shortest path drops a lil hotfix and syncs the bankers briefcase

[spring cipher]

are u doing ur demonic pac tasks

ur eventually gonna machine gun

just not yet so u have to find ways around it

[warped turtle]

yeah im at revs with a guy who is 1 ticking water surge it goes brr you just gotta get there

[muted needle]

im using the prayer one lol using monks robes kek

[weary drift]

how are yall getting slayer masters?

[spring cipher]

oh im going that for my final build i think

[spring cipher]

the free one u get is in zanaris

[silver sundial]

i just got a point

where do i go

[weary drift]

nah i got a couple areas but getting to them is kinda long

[silver sundial]

probably overhealing

[spring cipher]

well im just following a cookie cutter build from a guide but im running water first for free heals

im prob respsecing later

[muted needle]

brimhaven dungeon safespot some demons and kill steeldragon after you get 43 prayer stand side by side while using antidragshield so it wont fireball u

[weary drift]

if you see those two in the middle from the small one you got, aim for one of them and overhealing for air and water which is higher damage and sustain but mostly mage, right is for defense with off hand and thorns

[muted needle]

2 demonpacts

[spring cipher]

oh yea for people who have alot of cash and dont know this
brimhaven dungeon unlock is 1m gp for like 200 points

[muted needle]

easiest karamja demonpacts

[stark mist]

how are you guys training farming without the nature relic? doing a farming run every 10 or 20 min leaving whatever you were doing seems so ass.

[spring cipher]

and if u have 43 prayer u could also kill a tzaar

i havent done any farm runs yet

personally

[small flower]

trees mostly, and checking on them more infrequently

[spring cipher]

im waiting on tree seeds and gonna only do trees

im getting most of my pots

from forager

[small flower]

though even trees growin pretty fast

[spring cipher]

🤣

[remote cove]

whats EH people doing for beeg GP?

[outer hazel]

with the nature relic

[muted needle]

are the echo boss' mechanics same in the normal game?

[spring cipher]

no they're far harder

[small flower]

?

[stark mist]

I really want to get my farming up quick but this shit so ass man. specially the early levels

[muted needle]

it adds some new mechanics to it?

[small flower]

i just sat around doing bank skililng stuff in between allotment/herb patch growth for the first 60 levels

[outer hazel]

yea its a total dif fight

[small flower]

cuz yea it sucks with low seeds

[spring cipher]

i would say like@muted needle mechanically they would be 5-6x harder at least compared to the base boss if u put it into the main game
but because its leagues its whatever

[muted needle]

ohh i get it

thanks

[spring cipher]

yea like i dont think its that bad

[silver sundial]

couldnt i get protect prayers off green dragons, then leech a huey kill

i might need prayer potions though...

[warped turtle]

anyone else rocking never miss crossbow build

always max hit

[livid slate]

Is it never miss or always max when you hit?

I was gonna go that as my placeholder build until I can get mage online

[warped turtle]

yeah it felt slow at the start but once i unlocked that capstone now its going off

[spring cipher]

if u didnt take forager ur gonna have to pickpocket master farmers and kee up ur prayer potion runs granted once you get like blighted super restores ur kinda set in the wild

revs drop blighted shit like its candy

[livid slate]

If you take woodsman you can do moonlight moths

[spring cipher]

yea that also works

[stark mist]

i took the thieving relic mainly to get 200m while afking

[willow isle]

how are people using evil eye to refresh prayer?

[spring cipher]

prayer should be free as fuck in the wild tbh, have u tried safe spotting lava dragons and just burying the bones

[silver sundial]

lowkirk i was hoping to get some pray pots for huey... gonna have to figure this out

[shy ruin]

ngl.... amoxliatl kinda sucks

[livid slate]

I believe you can reload into BB and gain farming from gathering herbs?

[spring cipher]

i was gonna take wildy for the free maxed out prayer but i chose kand cause its better

[outer hazel]

i might reload it

[spring cipher]

really? my friend was doing the awakened one and he was having alot of fun

doing like stepbacks and whatnot

[stark mist]

Another big main reason for not taking farming relic is the no level requirment. Idk if I'd enjoy doing a skill if i have access to max tier since level 1

[willow isle]

i'm doing barrows don't wanna burn pots

[spring cipher]

are u mage or another build

cause u could probably tank through barrows with like

a water spell build

[silver sundial]

i need to start using blood runes

[bold yacht]

im gonna be a dagger build

[silver sundial]

wave spells should help me out a little

[spring cipher]

if u arent going for the long term maxing out points shit or dragon rank, transmutation is kinda goated

[willow isle]

melee

[livid slate]

Since you took wildy, you can get the regen pact and use a surge spell at fountain of rune to make wrath runes and then have infinite of them

[spring cipher]

ah

[livid slate]

Or you can take transmute

[indigo nimbus]

butler vs transmute? 🤔

[spring cipher]

depends

churing

do u work alot

i think butler is worth it if u do

[cyan cobalt]

Butler is WILD

[indigo nimbus]

im leaning towards butler yeah

[spring cipher]

and even if u take transmute u could just reload into butler

[livid slate]

I took transmute, but I'm gonna reload into BB, they're both great

[spring cipher]

yea

thats what im also doing

im doing butler on the reload

[bold yacht]

wait i thought reload didnt affect the big relics only demonics

[spring cipher]

it affects the relics only

[bold yacht]

oh

[livid slate]

Not respec, the reload relic it lets you pick one relic prior

[spring cipher]

anything before the reload u can choose

[warped turtle]

after i saw what people got overnight this morning in potions butler seems real good

[bold yacht]

im going full herbs then bb just get all the pots i need all league early

[indigo nimbus]

does the butler hold the stuff till you take it from him or does he bank?

[bold yacht]

he holds it

[indigo nimbus]

taking butler

[bold yacht]

im not sure if its like forager pouch where it has a 100/herb limit though

[spring cipher]

reloaded basically means this in this league

u can pick another relic

from any of the tiers before 7

so im taking transmute into reloaded for bb

[silver sundial]

lmfaoooo

[spring cipher]

ye

its so fun tbh lol

[silver sundial]

11 dragon bones got me lvl 16 through lvl 49 prayer

at chaos altar

[livid slate]

That is wild lmao

[spring cipher]

depending on what u wanna do u could also bury lava dragon bones on the lava isle as u get the bone

but i do think yea

bones at alter is prob better

[livid slate]

I'm tempted for KTW, not sure if I want Mory or Wildy for my last region for a mage build

[spring cipher]

hear me out

spamming volatile nightmare spec

[silver sundial]

steel dragon weakness?

to spell element

[spring cipher]

[[steel dragon]]

[obsidian bluff]

Wiki links found:
https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Steel_dragon

[silver sundial]

earth

[spring cipher]

ye

[timber sluice]

my 2 cents better to have a raid to do than not

[spring cipher]

yea

having a megarare is fun

[livid slate]

That is 1200 points after all

[spring cipher]

and raids gear is fun to use

[timber sluice]

having content is fun

finishing in wild is what... calisto etc

after like 50 clears

[spring cipher]

yea and also

testing out broken shit in raids

is like half the fun

[covert wolf]

almost same as mine

except 3 and 4

[little jetty]

So if a plant dies, ur just fucked

[timber sluice]

I don't suppose anyone has put any thoughts into light melee have they?

[winged pine]

How are yall leveling slayer somewhat fast? Any specific tasks?

[little jetty]

Cuz u cant shovel it out

[spring cipher]

i havent started slayer yet

[small flower]

where? i've had no problems removing dead plants

[spring cipher]

im waiting on slayer perk

[little jetty]

cavitt

[spring cipher]

i wanna see if i can make 2500 points for culling spree

[winged pine]

Idk what im doing wrong but slayer is slow even in leagues with slayer perk so im wondering what task meta is out if theres any lol

[spring cipher]

im going comfy mage build tbh

[late helm]

Is mory good for a mage build? I thought mory was a melee place

[livid slate]

Not really, but TOB is my preferred raid because COX is the worst because purples aren't guarenteed and it has the hardest pact tasks

[late helm]

Purples are guaranteed at tob?

Didn’t know :0

[livid slate]

In HM ToB

[late helm]

Isn’t challenge mode cox guaranteed?

[livid slate]

65%

[late helm]

Ah

[manic prairie]

do you need 70 prayer to bless superior bones?

[tame flax]

yes

[gilded totem]

Is the cut Dense Jungle task broke?

[late helm]

Everyone going mage builds while I am excited to try melee 🙁

[spring cipher]

i mean if u do cox they prob need a meleer

most people are running mage/range

so ur pretty needed there lol

[covert night]

ke-om or steel halbard with blindbag?

[gilded totem]

I'm doin melee/magic

[hollow swift]

no it just breaks if a gout tuber spawns

[late helm]

True - but I don’t think I’m going zeah

[gilded totem]

Well I haven't gotten that for the medium or light jungle, but no task complete

[covert night]

ket-om or steel halbard should be equiped?

[hollow swift]

only dense jungle completes task

gotta do start to finish

idk worked for me

[gilded totem]

Oh there it is

They're far away

[manic prairie]

do you have to transmute raw hides or tanned hides?

[gilded totem]

raw probablt

[shy ruin]

is soul harvest good?

[gilded totem]

for rc, yes I believe

[boreal imp]

im at moons an im only cooking 2 fish then stopping and keep having to click why is this

[shy ruin]

i think thats just how the moons stoves work for some reason

[marsh haven]

does aco vs teco matter

[late helm]

Why steel?

[void jewel]

Does anyone know how much kill credit u need for kill huey 1 time

Can u just hit him once?

[late helm]

Definitely not just once

[gilded totem]

2 for 2 on gout tubers. just chop down lol

make that 3 for 3

[late helm]

I tried with naked earth blast and didn’t get credit. Once I spammed earth wave, I had enough for kill credit

[void jewel]

Alright

[timber sluice]

going blindbag or light melee?

[weary drift]

all slayer masters can give revs as a task right?

[late helm]

I speced into both bc im a dummy

[timber sluice]

hang on a sec

[late helm]

But I’m going primarily blind bag

[timber sluice]

ree I need to find a single other person doing light melee so I can bounce ideas off

[late helm]

I think you just need the earth nagua weapon?

[spring cipher]

maybe its based on cooking levels

[primal lintel]

are trouvers used for anything in leagues? i just got 2 doing wildy slayer

[shy ruin]

i love how most of the bosses in the game just give a huuuuuuuuuuuge middle finger to ranged, really makes a third of the game useless 😁 👍

[tawdry carbon]

is the rate for rumour same across all targets? i.e. antelope is 1/100?

[timid sage]

deadfall and pitfall are 1/30 box trap is 1/50 butterflies 1/100

[cursive glacier]

Feel like mage gets a bigger finger personally

[timid sage]

actually pitfall may be 1/15

[cursive glacier]

Is there a rumour block list floating around anywhere for if you have karam unlocked?

[boreal imp]

IF i have my butler set to get me logs only not process them is that woodcutting xp?

[cursive glacier]

No

[remote cove]

no, only processing gives exp

[zinc goblet]

Do I go wilderness or desert?

[spring cipher]

ive seen people running the kbd ranged setup

[boreal imp]

so wuld that only give construction xp?

[remote cove]

yessir

[cursive glacier]

No

Fletching

[boreal imp]

planks give me fletching xp?

[remote cove]

wait its fletching not cons?

[late helm]

I unlocked karamja early - honestly, once you get 3 different hunter rumor dudes, at least one task is fast

[uncut steppe]

where are the crimson swifts in auburnvale?

[timid sage]

ok maybe i'm a little dumb, but where the hell do i catch salmon lmfao

[boreal imp]

flax into bowstrings sounds like fletching ya?

[cursive glacier]

No

[supple minnow]

but its crafting

[remote cove]

thats crafting

[timid sage]

did 30 fishing on the junk pool

[boreal imp]

so planks fr give fletching xp wth

[cursive glacier]

You really need to look at the wiki page my bwana

[late helm]

Bwana

[boreal imp]

but then you wouldnt have the satisfaction of help out a young bwana like me

[supple minnow]

karambwana

[hollow swift]

is there a certain world for tempoross

[shy ruin]

i feel like ranged is pure unfettered garbage unless you have like, one of 3 super rare and difficult to get items

[spring cipher]

isnt it good with kbd crossbow or am i crazy

[remote cove]

im going for kbd build but thats me

[supple minnow]

thats the item

[spring cipher]

ive seen ranged being really strong but u have to work towards it

[remote cove]

wanna try blindbag and kbd

[late helm]

You really pulled out the “unfettered”

[shy ruin]

i have 81 ranged, mixed hide armor, and adamant crossbow with ruby bolts and i genuinely got 3 hits in the entire huey fight

[late helm]

Dude his ranged defence is hella high

[timid sage]

range is always bis for leagues let melee have this one

[shy ruin]

no shit, every boss has high ranged defense because fuck ranged i guess???

[late helm]

Try using ranged at perilous moons if you think that is bad

[supple minnow]

inb4 that sloppy melty earth sapper tank build comes in, max acc nerf debuf on enemies, bing bap bam all the enemies

[primal lintel]

plenty of content ranged is OP at lol

[timid sage]

because ranged is the strongest combat stat and they're not range bosses

[near merlin]

what regions do i pick if i want to do a thorns build?

[cursive glacier]

Turns out that the boss with a 60% earth weakness is weak to melee

[shy ruin]

yeah if you have the best ranged gear in the game, if you dont its hot garbage

[supple minnow]

any?

[late helm]

Even the best ranged gear is bad at huey tho lol

[supple minnow]

if there are echo items you want, you specialize with those areas ig

that tormented ring or w/e for stacking recoils

[cursive glacier]

For thorns some things that come to mind are kbd crossbow, ring of suffering, the echo boots, whatever good shields you can get, and the door

[late helm]

Why do you think echo hits and ammo regen with addy bolts would hit hard at a 350 range def boss????

[shy ruin]

what the fuck else can i use? im not farming 90 smithing for a rune crossbow for a marginal upgrade

[supple minnow]

crossbow ain't close to thorns optimum, all those points. the offense of the build would be geared to whatever they feel they would want tho

[old tapir]

ring of suffering isn't affected by charge regeneration is it

[late helm]

… not ranged?

[timid sage]

you know whats crazy, it still hits hard because rubies skip accuracy roll for 100 damage

unfathomable combat style

[shy ruin]

well fuck me then for having the absolute gall to choose one of the options given to me

i put all these points into ranged but fuck me i guess

[late helm]

If you go to olm, you literally do 0 damage to his hands with ranged

[supple minnow]

the wep, you'd intend to take the cbow capstone, that's a ton of travel nodes

[late helm]

You can just use earth spells or come back later when you have a good mage or melee side weapon. Then use range elsewhere

[supple minnow]

@shy ruin the option is open though, as you get the best of both worlds

[cursive glacier]

Me when an addy scim does more damage than my mage pacts earth spells at heuy

[late helm]

Varlamore is not a ranged favourable zone

[bold yacht]

iron ore being 1m xp/hr should be like main game.

[late helm]

Melee excels in varlamore

[supple minnow]

thorns/melee hit utility + abundance goes harrrrd

for xp gain

[cursive glacier]

Getting 1.7 at t4

30 min afk too

[supple minnow]

get 99hp just sitting in aggro zones with prayer on

and insane xp across 4 stats with shared combat mode

[thorny nacelle]

What is the plan once karamja is unlocked I feel stuck

[remote cove]

I get the qualm with wanting to main a combat style and getting shat on, but this IS a game with multiple styles so... if you wanna do the bosses, you gotta do the time

[spring cipher]

not to mention when u hit the near finalized build it is pretty strong tbf

[shy ruin]

except this is the mode where you specifically have to choose a path and use it otherwise ur points are a complete waste

[cursive glacier]

Respecs: am i a joke to you?

[supple minnow]

i hate the slow pace of the game, but it's a good balance between PoE and WoW trees

[shy ruin]

i need a good build to get respec points, ranged is not a good build

[bold yacht]

plus you get a ton of free herbs or smithing xp

[remote cove]

ye I do understand that, but Im sure you could kill an echo with no or little pacts

with other styles

[timid sage]

build like 2 points into melee and blindbag amox

[shy ruin]

i feel like the ONLY way to make ranged good is to not use ranged until you have enough points to respec into an already complete ranged build

[supple minnow]

thorns + the defense nodes and dragon b-axe goes hard with the str stats tho...

sap your own def/att/mage levels to get a whacky str buff

[remote cove]

thats why im playing melee until I get kbd c:

[shy ruin]

all the good ranged pacts are backloaded, meanwhile both mage and melee have quite good stuff you can get really early

[cursive glacier]

How many points do you need to get a build online? Like 10?

[timid sage]

yeah but tbf the later melee stuff kinda blows

[shy ruin]

ok but melee gets infinite prayer and a ton of regen

[timid sage]

10% extra blindbag chance being treated like it's on par with crossbows always maxing 😭

[supple minnow]

wait until you see claw attack spam

[timid sage]

but then u have to farm out claws

[supple minnow]

just make or hunt your own rune, and grind for d claws

[late helm]

I didn’t have a single point in mage and I don’t intend to go mage this leagues. I got my Huey kill using mage

[old tapir]

isnt amox weapon just better claws

[timid sage]

no way u said rune claws

brother

😭

[supple minnow]

build enabling, not BIS upfront

youre there for the min 6 double hits

[timid sage]

claws don't double hit

[spring cipher]

damn you didnt have to hit him with the skill issue