leagues-general

[toxic vortex]

But yeah I would hope that maybe there is some sort of debuff/countdown/indicator to show you that the spec thing is active

[lilac sleet]

na in osrs rng

5% is like 40%

specially on anything attacking often, or multiple attacks

[lilac sleet]

like inferno

ur gonna trigger it so much getting infernal cape

[analog moat]

why you get pet drops that are 1/1000 like 1/4000 lol

[lilac sleet]

or 6 jads

[scenic creek]

hopefully

[wary egret]

Just want to honor my water mage kcb build

[toxic vortex]

Probably not banned but at least name changed

But also, lmao

I can't believe that name was available

Or not blacklisted

[small flower]

I hope your name remains unmolested for the entire league good sir

[wary egret]

lol haven’t logged in since last leagues. Is this like 40m main scape?

[small flower]

uhh, probably a decent amount, dunno exactly

[formal gulch]

What’s a good relic to reload into?

[small flower]

that very much depends on what you're doing for both regions and other relics

and combat, and what you want outta playing

:/

[formal gulch]

[small flower]

anything not T3? i guess?

[lilac sleet]

flow state

[winged trout]

Is there any point in doing point max vs dragon cup?

[copper gorge]

https://www.osrsleaguescountdown.io/map

For those that wanted one found an overlay of all teleport options

[lilac sleet]

well if you're rushing them yes. beyond bragging rank and more points = more points to buy stuff that could sell for a lot in main game

[formal gulch]

What’s flow state good for?

[winged trout]

Not rushing just have a bit of a completionist complexe

[minor summit]

Smithing cannonball faster /sarcasm

[lilac sleet]

well bragging rights, make yourself feel good since it is an acomplishment to get all points and complete all tasks in your region

and u will be able to buy every item

[small flower]

secret hidden sailing tech

[lilac sleet]

with points*

[smoky raft]

guess what motherfuckers

tornado warning means I get another free break

I may die though. Bummer

[small flower]

not sure that's entirely a W

[toxic vortex]

Currently the best gp/point is the shattered teleport scroll

[copper gorge]

Note these are not heavily bought and sold.

[toxic vortex]

GE price of just a smidge under 698k, 1k points to buy it

[small flower]

assuming the trade volume is high enough to dump, otherwise kinda spread it around

[copper gorge]

I bought something last league that should have net me 30m i got 14.

[toxic vortex]

Assuming you actually sold them all at 698k you'd get like 55.4m after ge tax

But yeah idk if you'd actually sell all of them

Best to wait until this shop opens up

[lilac sleet]

okay going water mage, Mory/kanderin are first two regions, i really need help finding a reason not to pick Fremmy as my 3rd

any suggestions are appreciated

[small flower]

if you were considering it for gear, wildy would be an alternate upgrade with cape, and would similarly get you wrath runes

[dull imp]

Fremmy is low content. Prif is crafting smithing solve with larceny, and larceny is good with kanda cuz you get infinite clues

[wary egret]

Do they actually sell though

[small flower]

probably under listed value, and in low quantities

or at least that's the safe assumption to make in all cases

[toxic vortex]

Oh yeah, no

The actual GE price is closer to 400k

[grizzled adder]

is conniving clues pretty much a required pick with reload if you want to get max point cap?

[small flower]

probably not required

[toxic vortex]

@wary egret

The cannon kits probably sell well

[lilac sleet]

but prif doesn't really have much content i can use and larceny is infinite money/resources almost anywhere else and solves crafting. Hotfoot solves smithing. and it's not a joke i am really looking for first good reason not to pick fremmy which is why i'm responding like this

[small flower]

as long as you have a good source of the clues you'd probably be fine just burning through 100 by dropping the gear steps

[dull imp]

The echo item is dog. But do what you want if your mind is made up

[small flower]

what's the main thing you're getting out of fremmy that you feel you need then, cuz wildy was a straight answer

[dull imp]

Asgarnia/wildy/prif/zeah/desert all have way more fun stuff than a helmet

[tranquil pond]

Are you grabbing grimoire? If so, then theres less reason for kourend or desert

But if not, then kourend gives a LOT

[wary egret]

Man found an avernic on the account but can’t dismantle. RIP

[lilac sleet]

So i'll give my relic choices to make it easier

[lilac sleet]

in reality it's lack of other content in other regions (besides maybe asgar) that make me feel forced to pick it

[toxic vortex]

So the lack of content in other regions is driving you to....frem?

[small flower]

wel if it's purely because you like fremmy bosses or something just go for it?

fremm isn't exactly king of quantity in general there

[lilac sleet]

endless harvest > Hotfoot > Map of alacrity > transmutation > Larcenist > Culling spree > (not sure but likely flow state > Minion

full water mage build

[small flower]

if you're not interested in doing clues, asg or wildy will also be easy upgrades for the minion

[smoky raft]

power outage! I might get to go home early if the tornado warning clears lmao

[toxic vortex]

@smoky raft

[lilac sleet]

well Fremmy has magus ring and V helm,

[toxic vortex]

Wife's cousins car from just a bit ago

[smoky raft]

yeah we've been getting hail too lmao

[molten gust]

Well done

[small flower]

wildy has mage cape, and kand already has suffering for a nice tank option

[smoky raft]

you're central, right? Midwest?

[small flower]

so it's not terribly worse off there

[toxic vortex]

Yes, but he is in Madison

[smoky raft]

yeah I've heard Madison got hit hard

[lilac sleet]

well i'm not sure i just kind of actually feel like now it's just magus ring and V helm which has substantial stats is the reason

[toxic vortex]

He was out driving when that happened

[tranquil pond]

No grimoire means desert gives the most chill slayer experience possible
Zeah gives the robes, mage prayer, as well as is a really good zone for skilling, especially slayer

[small flower]

nothin wrong with fremmy ,if you like the bosses (big fan of muspah myself, but he probably won't do a ton for you)

[toxic vortex]

Wasn't muspah broken last league?

[small flower]

how so?

[lilac sleet]

i dont need prayer, and wont be changing from standard spell book and i already got a rage regon and hate cox

[tranquil pond]

Fremmy has great bosses, love vorkath, muspah, and duke

[small flower]

i guess you'll also get heart upgrade with muspah

[lilac sleet]

i was debating asgarnia over fremmy though

[toxic vortex]

Something about the massive damage was breaking the phase transitions or something

[lilac sleet]

heart's a bonus

not really counting that

[smoky raft]

I stg if a power outage causes me to miss the three days I took off for leagues I'm gonna be pissed

[small flower]

oh, yes you could absolutely instagib him before the shield phase

[tranquil pond]

Augury does a LOT

[lilac sleet]

4% tho

[lilac sleet]

hmm

[tranquil pond]

I might be wrong, but arent prayers % multiplicative applied after mage strength, meaning it makes your mage strength stronger too?

[small flower]

eh, it's pretty minimal for augury tho

is good yes

[dull imp]

I think they’re just set in fremmy so just let it ride lol

[tranquil pond]

Ancestral is also better than virtus for pure elemental builds

Yeah, like fremmy isnt bad in any regard

Especially since everyone has virtus from vardorvis

[dull imp]

I haven’t seen a great reason FOR fremmy

[tranquil pond]

Helm and ring mostly it sounds like

Also, it just has some fun bosses

The only real required zone for ele mage is kandarin

[radiant gulch]

Will the new Infernal tecpatl work with blood moon armor passive?

[small flower]

i don't think i've seen anything anywhere suggest this

but i do wish the wiki calc had the spec for it included

[tranquil pond]

Itd be sick if it worked for every armor passive, but i doubt it

It'll probably just be used for people's early moons farm

Then dropped unless you need demonbane

Like for skotizo if youre going zeah

[small flower]

i'm fully intending on using it all the way to the end

[tranquil pond]

Really?

[lilac sleet]

cox is terrible, i may be convinced to go another region but it wont be zeah

[small flower]

I will likely be disappointed, but i will try

yes really XD

[tranquil pond]

Thats entirely fair

Ive never done it before, so im excited to try it

[lilac sleet]

it's literally hardest raid

and takes longest

[tranquil pond]

Cool

[toxic vortex]

Really doubt it

[small flower]

I am fully onboard with your dislike of CoX, though i'm not sure i agree with your reasoning XD

[tranquil pond]

Only raid ive done is ToB

Because of the quest

[small flower]

ToA is a blast

[lilac sleet]

I love toa and tob

[tranquil pond]

Ive heard its generally considered the best

[lilac sleet]

so i want to go tira, but crystal armor useless to me part of me really is thinking asgarnia might be my best bet

if i'm not going fremmy

[stiff hinge]

i don't know if i would say cox is the hardest raid

[radiant gulch]

Toa is fun, but the area rewards are just so bad for a mage build

[tranquil pond]

Only reason im getting desert is because i want ancients

[lilac sleet]

for me personally, comparing 5 man cox, to 5 man 550 toa, or 5 man Hmt, cox to me is much harder

[toxic vortex]

Crystal isn't completely useless to you

[lilac sleet]

it's not as good as virtus though

[tranquil pond]

If theyre going pure ele mage, it is

[lilac sleet]

which is my reasoning

[toxic vortex]

The crystal blessing still gives +2% magic damage and +20 magic attack

Per piece

[lilac sleet]

+20 magic attack TOTAL

for all 3 pieces

[tranquil pond]

Worse than virtus, isnt it?

[winged trout]

Yeah I agree, any decent guides on that thought process? My current plan is to go hard during the weekend then I'll need to go back to work next week

[tranquil pond]

Total? Thought it was per piece

[lilac sleet]

Husky confirmed it's +20 total due to crystal -magic attack

[tranquil pond]

Ah

[scenic creek]

friendly foragers REPRESENT

[mint stone]

Isn't pure mage really really difficult at start? Cuz of many enemies being highly resistant. Anoxliatl being one of them

[toxic vortex]

Still +6% damage

[lilac sleet]

virtus is 2% too

[small flower]

it's a solid early-ish option before you actually get to farming virtus

[toxic vortex]

Again, not completely useless

[small flower]

has more defenses and prayer too

[toxic vortex]

And you'll get the staff from GG that would work with it

[lilac sleet]

ur really gonna think it's tough since i'm going mory first too lol

[tranquil pond]

Seems that way, melee seems the safest early

[toxic vortex]

You missed the session we had here earlier about comparing early amox builds

[mint stone]

Haha well barrows are ok for maging

[toxic vortex]

Comparing fire bolt/blast to just bonking with a fire staff

[lilac sleet]

this is part of why i wanted fremmy, because yeah it's not a great region but that V's helm is nice, but you're all right, seems to be a waste to pick fremmy just for items when i got nothing to do in that region

[mint stone]

Oh sorry, yes probably

[lilac sleet]

cause vorkath is not it

[toxic vortex]

Bonking with a fire staff was way superior

Like, not even worth trying to mage

[tranquil pond]

Thats actually hilarious

[small flower]

if you want it for gear and you like the bosses go for it, but if it's just for gearand you don't really care about the stuff that's there, yea pick somethin else

[tranquil pond]

Even with amox having a huge fire weakness?

[mint stone]

I am currently trying to figure out which build will have the highest dps

[toxic vortex]

+100 magic defense though

[tranquil pond]

True..

[toxic vortex]

So in reality, no not really

[small flower]

air mage

like not even close

[tranquil pond]

I wonder if its worth skipping amox and moons and trying to farm huey for a dragonhunter wand

[small flower]

air mage

[toxic vortex]

Literally bonking with a fire staff was like 80% accuracy vs 30% casting fire blast

[tranquil pond]

Since honestly, theres not even anything id want from moons or amox i dont think

[lilac sleet]

wait a minute

Maybe i should go Tira, since i plan to respec into powered staves

at some point

[small flower]

tira will definitely do that

[lilac sleet]

but i suck at Cg

[tranquil pond]

Oh, if you are planning, then 100%

[small flower]

and swamp stick is quite nice with the set

[toxic vortex]

No better time to learn

[mint stone]

Hopefully people will post their tested builds and gear to ease the process for me

[scenic creek]

dw you can just force cg in leagues

[small flower]

go into power staff speed and pick up 90% prayer pen

[toxic vortex]

Echo CG skips the prep phase too

[small flower]

and.... that's it

[tranquil pond]

i've heard the -3 tick powered staff node will make CG a joke

[toxic vortex]

Well

Kind of

[lilac sleet]

maybe unlock everything, then when i'm actually ready for CG, i can respec fully into powered staves which is the plan and then cg for that

[toxic vortex]

You have to move around a lot of CG

Which means you'll lose out on damage

[lilac sleet]

wont cg hunliff be immune to that

[tranquil pond]

but it's better to have -3 tick than to not have it, even if you lose some attacks to moving

[small flower]

you could do it last league with the prayer pen part of t6

[toxic vortex]

^

[small flower]

idk why it'd be nerfed now

[toxic vortex]

No reason it would be

[small flower]

cept now you can have 1t power staves

[scenic creek]

i never even switched weapon last cg doing hunllef

last league*

[lilac sleet]

hmm

[mint stone]

Full mage?

[scenic creek]

aye

[toxic vortex]

Also doesn't take much to get the node for the 1 tick faster bows

So you can get a 3t bowfa

[lilac sleet]

thats true and my mage build is only like 29 points

so plenty of points to get there

and since i'm not taking ice spells are water

thats extra stuff

[toxic vortex]

It's only like 5 nodes for the faster speed

[lilac sleet]

thats a good point

[tranquil pond]

blood spells are fire combined with the fire spells bounce node sounds like it'd make bursting kinda silly

but like

there's no reason for that level of aoe

it's gross overkill

[small flower]

would be fun to look at numbers doin monkeys or somethin but that's it XD

[lilac sleet]

can you have multiple quad flame staves

[scenic creek]

btw its very likely the start tomorrow is delayed
so if you've set an alarm, just move it back an hour or so

[lilac sleet]

or can only get 1 as a drop?

[copper gorge]

Im getting ready to do sote on my GIM so its right into cg after. Gunna be doing plenty of cg in leagues to get used to "mechanics" and feel of game

[copper gorge]

Why would you want multiple?

[lilac sleet]

easier to use different spells by 1 clicking on the weapon

in pvm spells dont get unselected by changing weapons

[small flower]

might be worth just doing hally/bow spec into it then so you aren't just brute forcing it

[lilac sleet]

so if i can have 2, i can go water/fire mage, fire for clearing and water for healing

since fire has great aoe

if i can have two staves it'll make it easier than constantly changing the auto cast spell

[smoky raft]

pretty sure autocasts are kept between similar staves anyway

[proper wave]

Does blindbag damage scale off of the melee strength on the weapon or like tick speed? Like 7 tick weapons do more blindbag dmg than 5 tick weapons etc.. or are we just looking for max str bonus on each weapon?

[small flower]

just stats

[smoky raft]

just str, but slower weapons tend to have higher strength anyway

[toxic vortex]

https://www.reddit.com/r/2007scape/s/8OONAt7OPt

[proper wave]

hol'up so the slash/crush matters too? It rolls stats against the defense of the enemy?

[small flower]

can confirm, even 2 different staves will save the autocast spell you set

[stiff hinge]

yeah you made me check lol

[small flower]

same XD

was like... i can just log on and see

[stiff hinge]

you have to either manually change the autocast or just, manually cast a one-off water surge or w/e

[lilac sleet]

well damn

[stiff hinge]

gj inventing a totally believable mechanic though

[small flower]

XD

[lilac sleet]

well it spawned from pvp

[scenic creek]

barbarian gatherers represent

[lilac sleet]

ew

[scenic creek]

do not let the endless harvesters sway you

[dull imp]

I’d rather be awake and ready in case it’s on time vs sleep through and miss an hour or 3

[lilac sleet]

yeah ill be awake at 6:30AM lol

regardless of delay

[dull imp]

5:00am for me(cdt) need time to fully wake up

[small flower]

as much as i'd like to be there sittin around waiting, too much else to do in the mornin, will have to see how things go

[lilac sleet]

man going Tirawin sounds so good specially that I want to go powered staves after i get everything, but it also kinda makes me want to just make my 3rd or 4th account be powered staves only

[copper gorge]

If anyone wants to add me in game - gimsocrates otherwise been real theorycrafting plans and builds with everyone. Have fun good luck.

[scenic creek]

grug punch tree

grug get xp

[fervent atlas]

Does the v's helm spec perk proc if you take fire spell self burn from the cerberus dagger?

[copper gorge]

Gotta rush kids and wife out the door so i can get some tasks done before i leave for work. Smdh

[proper wave]

do we know how exactly to get pact points right now?

like what tasks specifically give a point

[small flower]

yea there's a task list

https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Demonic_Pacts_League/Demonic_Pacts

[proper wave]

ohh the 40 its showing are the 40pts i can get for the pact tree?

[smoky raft]

correct

[lilac sleet]

grug sad cause grug only punch stuff and grug never relax to go watch movie grug always force fish in pocket

grug wants endless harvest

[proper wave]

ah shit ok sorry thanks.. i thought it was showing me the league points i'd get from it lol

i was literally looking at this list lol

[scenic creek]

truly enlightenend: barbarian gathering and then reloaded to get endless harvest

[lilac sleet]

oh my god it's jason bourne

[small flower]

they're league point tasks too, they just have dual purpose, like the kill 1-3 echo bosses will also get you a respec point

[stiff hinge]

i wonder how hard echo amoxicillin will be

[small flower]

as long as it's fun i'm good, they did a good job with 'em last time around

even the easy ones

[smoky raft]

I didn't like echo DKs tbh

[scenic creek]

im thinking barbarian gathering + friendly forager

endless harvest gives you similar XP to barbarian but 2x less resources roughly

[lilac sleet]

i've heard a few people say it's likely to be a challenge but not really hard. like a "how hard can it really be in starting region"

[smoky raft]

I'm going endless + forager myself

[smoky raft]

does this take into consideration the fact that endless gives you double resources (and xp) per harvest

because honestly I feel like most people are ignoring that part of the relic entirely

[lilac sleet]

yeah

[scenic creek]

🤔 it depends how it's coded I suppose

[small flower]

i'm going endless-endless-endless-endless-endless-endless-endless-endless, if i stop playing an account and start a new one to go endless again that counts as being t8 by my 8th one right?

[lilac sleet]

even with rune tools, Endless harvest is very close to speed of Barb

[scenic creek]

if it gives 2x ore at same time then you'll only get 1 herb probably

[lilac sleet]

and soon as u hit dragon tools and 50+ on that level

it's over barb

[scenic creek]

whilst barbarian gets 2x ore in the same amount of time but in 2 actions so should be 2 herbs

[smoky raft]

oh you were talking about herbs lmao

[scenic creek]

aye haha

i just want unlimited prayer pots

[stiff hinge]

non-mages needing prayer pots, lmaoing @ u

[scenic creek]

im larping as a barbarian so NO MAGIC

[random sky]

will zulrah drop the completed swamp trident?

[smoky raft]

FUCK the tornado warning is over

I have to go back to work :(

[stiff hinge]

yes

[scenic creek]

im thinking i go full barbarian build

thorns

just sit there taking hit after hit

i did some thorns build in diablo4 as a meme and ended up really high in the leaderboards somehow

[cloud basin]

Anyone has some minor tune ups for the demonic pacts in this? Going wildy desert and most likely asgarnia (might change to kandarin along the way)

https://dps.osrs.wiki?id=FeverAsgarnianLinum

[scenic creek]

now im thinking dinhs bulwark..

full tank build using thorns, justiciar + dinhs lmao
i'm going to do it

[random sky]

if you go thorns, I think suffering (kandarin) is pretty mandatory?

[small flower]

seems solid to me, question is mostly whether you wanna do stuff in asg or kand, the gear is similar, though asg does get you void for something else to play around with

[cloud basin]

I mean just walk around with all the recoils 👍

[cloud basin]

Also fortified masori, kand gives anguish and potential for mage swap

[small flower]

thorns + recoil is oddly counter to itself, unless you're zammy brewing down to 1def

[small flower]

yea it's all kind of w/e you wanna do at that point, though I suppose you're already going grimoire for rigour, so yea kand wouldn't be a bad switch

[scenic creek]

holy shit one of the pacts is "whenever an attack deals 0 damage to you whilst either a two-handed shield or an off-hand is equipped, you're healed for 2 and restore 2 prayer points"

im doing it guys lmao

full tank build, ive decided

[small flower]

yea, thorn tank is very very real

should be fun

should be more fun if you say to hell with dinhs, and just do mory/asg/kand and go for a dogger primary attack

[lilac sleet]

it's whenever you get hit, or hit by a 0

[small flower]

but that's just me hating on CoX

[lilac sleet]

considering how much npc's hit 0s on players it's a requirement of a perk for tank builds

[scenic creek]

how many regions can we unlock this time, ik we start with varlamore and karamja is free

[small flower]

3

[cloud basin]

Ye so I'm going wildy first zone, kand/asgarnia second, desert last. But I wornt be fast at the start anyway so I'll watch other people fuck up for me and I'll learn 🙂

Just curious as to how I'll do the 6 Jads task... I feel like I can do it with water tank mage... But that's the only point that makes me welp hope I can

[lilac sleet]

well with water mage, assuming u dont know the tick cycle of jads attack (yes there is one) or u want to cheese/easy mode it. Just turn on 1 style of protection and kill them 1 at a time

they wont be able to outheal ur damage

assuming u have staff/offhand from kanderin

and have decent gear

[cloud basin]

I don't however I have kbd cbow 😅 so idk how that scales up and I might skip kand for asgarnia that's my toss up

Wildy, desert and then kand OR asgarnia

[lilac sleet]

if ur not using water magic, or powered staves for fast attack, or really mostly anything else ur gonna have to pray switch

6 jads were designed to attack in repeating cycles to give player time to pray switch between them

they dont all attack at once and random

[cloud basin]

Should be doable for me then got through 5 last league with mage build

However that felt like a gamba

As in just 30 tries and I hit 1

[lilac sleet]

easiest way is to ensure u can kill each jad within 10 seconds of healers coming out and just power down the jad. the time itself i guess doesn't matter, but faster u can kill them after healers come out easier it will be

soon as 1 dies it's just easy from there

specially after u get down to 3

[cloud basin]

Well there will be instances where my kbd bow just echos one to death

So i can fish those out

[deep basin]

what kind of a build would be absolutely highest dps against single targets? air mage? kings barrage? hally blindbag? thrown torva?

[cloud basin]

Air mage

Afaik

[deep basin]

even against things that aren't weak to mage?

[cloud basin]

Probably not... But that goes for any build

[small flower]

barrage does quite well too, with a bit more rng on how high it can get

[deep basin]

i mean - when we had 100% ranged accuracy... everything was weak to dragon darts xd

[cloud basin]

There's a reason why it's now a double accuracy roll 😂

[deep basin]

yeah haha

[small flower]

for what it's worth bow echoes can't miss? XD

[deep basin]

so if i'd do kandarin, morytania, tirannw - does air mage make sense?

[proper wave]

as far as i know, the air mage build is using thermy staff to force things weak to the e lement you're casting, +30% on top

[small flower]

so while using a bow, something like 55% extra damage that can't miss

that isn't reliant on even hitting since the echoes are spawned on regening ammo

[proper wave]

yeah but crystal blessing doesn't give mage accuracy to shadowflame quadrent since it's not a powered weapon

[deep basin]

so zeah instead of tirannw?

[toxic vortex]

Not necessarily

[small flower]

bow is probably really good, and people are just ignoring it cuz crossbow has sugh potential

[toxic vortex]

Are you just doing mage?

[deep basin]

tbh - i'm not a huge fan of tirannw - too little bosses to actually have fun there

[toxic vortex]

But also you could spend 1 point and get the 1t powered staff buff

[proper wave]

yeah i'm doing mory kand tiran as well and using 1t gargler

[deep basin]

honestly no idea yet - i just want to nuke things that aren't nukeable in maingame 😛

so highest dps against a single target

[proper wave]

as for air mage, best i know is kand/zeah whatever else you want

[cloud basin]

Friend of mine is going wildy to have fun with the cbow too

[proper wave]

you need hydra neck for 12 prayer bonus, pray gear from colo (free region) can get zeah blessing, ardy cape, thermy weapons for what i mentioned earlier, conf gaunts

[cloud basin]

He's going the cap stone of style switching

With +25%

[scenic creek]

recoil only deals damage if I take damage right

[proper wave]

then you need some luck from clues iirc. but the goal is 50 prayer bonus for "50% chance to max hit with air spells, doubled if they're weak to air" then you force them to be weak to air with the thermy weapons

then you pray 8 things and do 56% bonus dmg on a 3t autocast wind surge

[cloud basin]

Sol head + virtus top is same stats as clue items

[toxic vortex]

That sentence is just wacky

[cloud basin]

But better defensives

[proper wave]

yeah but devout boots i believe instead of treads

[cloud basin]

Could be don't know the specifics saw the reddit post

[mint stone]

I think people don't realize how boring crossbow will become... 7tick attacking is soooooo slowwwwww

[small flower]

yea i immediately ignored it because of that XD i'm sure it'll be great but i dont wanna do 7t

[mint stone]

Like sure you hit a 120(for example), but then you stand there with your bbc in your hand... waiting for sooo long

[mint stone]

Big black crossbow btw

[toxic vortex]

I just hate standing there holding my BBC in my hand

Just waiting

[mint stone]

I am full on mage and then melee this leagues

1t and 3t spells so fun. And maybe 2t shadow if it is strong enough

[toxic vortex]

2t shadow with crystal blessing

As if it needed more damage

[small flower]

starter cbow tree for sunlight and keeping it 3t is kinda tempting tho

[toxic vortex]

This is the reach around build

[mint stone]

I think I will calculate a few melee points so I can still 40/40 my build. Since melee is required for some bosses

Amoxliatl in particular

[toxic vortex]

Someone put max air mage in against amox

[near dock]

who do I need to talk to to get to get Diango or just the beach boxing gloves moved to Varlamore for the league. I want to square up with all the bosses more than anything

[mint stone]

Love that. I wonder if it will be available

[near dock]

we need to promote this idea. It's not too late

[acoustic mural]

hey guys i might be blind but curious if they've said launch time anywhere, gonna be my first league so not familiar

[toxic vortex]

#game-news message

yes you are blind, but its okay

[acoustic mural]

thanks a bunch!

[astral sigil]

So I need some input. Long time noob 🤣 clueless about the newer gear metas.

I'm thinking water mage barbarian harvest>FF or woodsman> map of aclarity

With zeah, kandarin wildy?

Not nessecarily in that region order. Again long time noob lmao

[vestal shuttle]

Barbarian Harvest is peak

Idk what I'm doin but I got two fists and I'm boutta start swingin

Bot hates me cuz I'm too good at punching things

[astral sigil]

I'd consider endless but I really don't wanna be playing afkscape in leagues lol

[smoky raft]

according to my neighbors the local power grid never went down so I should be fine

🎉

[smoky raft]

the afk is one thing but it's also double resources and xp per successful harvest

It'll outpace barb gathering on a lot of lower tier resources, and if you have transmutation you don't really need to gather the higher ones anyway

[astral sigil]

Frem fornlunara? Npc contact but I don't think you can access shops lol

[astral sigil]

I was thinking butlers bell for that tier I think.

I'm aware early game it will seem op. But it will also make all of the early game just a click and come back on 30

[smoky raft]

only if you choose to play that way lol

[astral sigil]

🤷 I don't mind skilling I think barb will be better suited for my play style

[smoky raft]

I don't plan to actually afk anything til 41 mining when I go for bone shards while I make myself lunch

[astral sigil]

I got tomorrow off all day but Thursday/Friday I got a feeling I'm pushing snow all damn day

[dull imp]

Time for bed

Gl tomorrow yall

[lilac sleet]

bed what

[dull imp]

Gotta wake up at 5am cst lol

[lilac sleet]

oh true lol

[dull imp]

Get like 4.5 hours before work starts for me

[lilac sleet]

did they confirm what time full reveal is

is it 2 hours prior?

[supple briar]

Im surprised given the leagues theme and t8 relics stating “cannot be used in Yama” that there’s no echo Yama or something. I was kinda expecting a giga Yama end game fight to take on once your build is finished

[latent magnet]

whats the move for early crossbows

[supple briar]

Infact I was even expecting it to be a surprise “one last thing” announcement today lol but guess no luck

[lilac sleet]

woah

did u see they confirmed

tier 2 is 600 points

thats like an hour

[loud cypress]

Hey everyone do we know what time the update drops?

[lilac sleet]

supposed to be live at 7:30 Eastern Time

but i've heard to expect delays

i've also heard full release of all info is 2 hours prior

but i got no confirmation on that part

[loud cypress]

Okay so I'm MST so 5:30 I'm assuming?.

[lilac sleet]

should be yeah

[loud cypress]

All info release at 3:30 AM?

[lilac sleet]

thats what i've heard

2 hours prior

[loud cypress]

So 2 hours to theory craft. Got it

[lilac sleet]

i'm doing that right now

trying to really finalize stuff

honestly knowing how many points we need for tier 4 and 5 is important to my build

because it could change first regioin choice

guess it's not urgent though

[latent magnet]

locking in wildy -> zeah -> mory

wildy is gonna be a big power jump

[smoky raft]

launch is 6:30 eastern, not 7:30

so mountain is 4:30

[lilac sleet]

post from husky which shows local time, shows 7:30AM for me

i also have random goldfish memory from a motorcycle crash

[lilac sleet]

so i'm sure you're right

[timid oak]

im assuming ur using the wildy crossbow, what are your plans for range armour? i was thinking wildy asgarnia and zeah

[smoky raft]

it's a hot launch too, so delays are much less likely

[warped turtle]

oh dang 6:30 est i thought it was 8am

[smoky raft]

I plan to wake up at 4:30 so I can have an hour before launch lmao

I plan to

but they're currently keeping me at work for yet another severe weather warning

[warped turtle]

same ill be up 30 mins before to get the coffee going

ohh wow stay safe. first leagues start where i have a few days off im hype

[smoky raft]

I took 3 days off lmao

If I can't play because of a fucking power outage I'm gonna start throwing hands with the weather man

[lilac sleet]

so then 4:30am is full reveal?

[smoky raft]

I don't know if a full reveal has been confirmed at all, let alone a time

[lilac sleet]

well dang

[smoky raft]

they usually do a full reveal 2 hours before though yeah

[lilac sleet]

i see they started releasing point values

for relics

or at-least tier 2

[smoky raft]

(grid master got a full reveal like 10 minutes before launch lmao)

[lilac sleet]

that wasn't there earlier

[cloud panther]

hmmm

[smoky raft]

this was in one of the vids iirc

so a lot of people were just assuming Karamja at 80 and T2 at 600

[lilac sleet]

i still cannot verify all 3 of my regions

and it's bothering me

[old tapir]

seem to be looking at 9 pact points to start with

[lilac sleet]

that was a struggle too, which is why im going mory first region

at-least i can hit 10 with that

[smoky raft]

I'm trying to hit 11 before fight caves this week

[lilac sleet]

thats easy

whats ur first region

[smoky raft]

Kandarin

[old tapir]

https://i.imgur.com/AlE9FAu.png

[smoky raft]

I'm planning those and then working my way up to demonic gorilla and zenytes

[old tapir]

11 would be cool, could add air rune gen and prayer regen to the warped sceptre starter

[lilac sleet]

thats a tough one, u gonna have to cheese a demonic gor

[old tapir]

doing one gorilla might also be doable

they were kinda tough in the quest i did a few days ago

[lilac sleet]

but if you do a lot of damage on ur main style, or u have prayer pen

even 15% prayer pen

u can cheese it

[smoky raft]

I plan to brute force one demonic gorilla and then farm the lower tier ones for a Zenyte. Shouldn't take more than 1-2 hours with the gear I'll have

[old tapir]

really difficult to grab prayer pen so early

[smoky raft]

I'm getting 15% prayer pen early just by coincidence

I'm rushing the HP and prayer Regen on blocked hits, it's free slayer and fight caves

[old tapir]

would have to do something like this https://i.imgur.com/3vpiWB9.png

[lilac sleet]

oh i can't post my pictures yet lol

I'm rushing 3 tick spell casting

then water mage bonus at 10 points

[rugged cedar]

can someone help me build cheese infernal cape method without eternal sustenance

[old tapir]

become a water mage

[rugged cedar]

i wanted to do range but i think its mage this leagues?

[lilac sleet]

learn how h2o works

all styles have great builds

[rugged cedar]

do I have to take asgarnia then?

[lilac sleet]

even 4th style

of standing and doing damage

[old tapir]

you're only doing ranged this league if you're doing the king's barrage stuff unfortunately

[rugged cedar]

hmm

[latent magnet]

karils all the way

genuinely because its my favorite looking armor and no other reason

[rugged cedar]

i dont want crossbow

[smoky raft]

I think huey is better stats wise but it does suffer from ugly pants disease

[rugged cedar]

actually h20 will be good cause I can reset the pacts after getting it

[old tapir]

the kandarin warped sceptre start is looking pretty good, but i do wish i could find another pact point somewhere

[latent magnet]

huey suffers from having to do huey disease

[smoky raft]

I like huey

the drop rates are my only problem with the fight

[blissful saddle]

I haven't done many hunter rumors before. Does anyone know where I can find what hunter creatures to block to make rushing with woodsman before unlocking karamja viable?

[old tapir]

i think you block snowy knights on the novice guy to only get jerboas from corvus

[lilac sleet]

1 sec

[cloud panther]

Huey isn't bad esp since in league you will ahve an army of overpowered lunatics doin it

[smoky raft]

drops are scaled though so you may be better off running solos

[cloud panther]

tru

[smoky raft]

at least if you're going mage or have some two hit weapons

Range solo is a bit bad

[old tapir]

force one kill for the pact point and come back later

when you have the quadent

[smoky raft]

I plan to grind huey at some point

Wanna get a dhw before I slog up to 93 slayer

[lilac sleet]

Video by Chemie on youtube. called OSRS] DETAILED Hunter Rumors Beginner Guide | 2025, Pause video at 9:09. Thats the exact block list you need for optimal xp

they show what needs to be blocked on each hunter

[smoky raft]

that list is going to be different when you only need to worry about Varlamore

[lilac sleet]

i'm still up in air about 3rd region

but i'm going to just play and see hwo things go

and i'll know by the time i unlock 3rd region

[old tapir]

regenerating weapon charges doesn't trigger elemental rune effects, does it

[lapis flax]

if you get the pact for it you get 1 rune regen

theres 1 for each elemental rune type

[old tapir]

yeah but that's ontop of it

[lapis flax]

so with 1 tick powered stave and the water node you can heal 1hp per tick basically

[old tapir]

i was thinking, trident needs fire runes to charge, when you regen a charge, you technically regen a fire rune

but not really

[lapis flax]

no

powered staves dont regen runes

[old tapir]

okay

[lapis flax]

you need the pact to allow for it

this one

powered staves normally just regen their own charges you dont regen the runes required to charge

but yeah its only 1 rune per regen

[blissful saddle]

Yeah, it's not really relevant. I guess I just need to know what hunter animals in varlamore give fast xp though and I can set it up

[old tapir]

i think you have the right idea with this, but it does appear to involve doing fight caves at 9 or 10 points depending on if you did the gorilla

so base speed warped sceptre or something else

and then afterwards maybe triple jad is also something that can be one

if you really try

and you'd have the 1 tick sceptre at that point if you did the gorilla

[smoky raft]

Worst case, I just have to wait for my next region lol

[old tapir]

yeah i was trying not to, not that i wanna rush either but that's a long time to wait for any combat at all

[cloud panther]

has anyone figured out the hunter blocklist for Varlamore only?

[lilac sleet]

oh i was in a different channel

So on youtube, find Chemie channel

then search OSRS] DETAILED Hunter Rumors Beginner Guide | 2025

go to 9:09

and pause

thats the hunter block for each master

for optimal list

[smoky raft]

for the base game, yes

[cloud panther]

that is for base game

[smoky raft]

it can be more efficient in leagues

[lilac sleet]

well unless someone is going to make a leagues only guide for block list

[cloud panther]

if you haven't unlocked any other area you can focus wholely on varlamore limiting it down to like 1-2 choices

[lilac sleet]

i'm sure thats better than none

[old tapir]

like i said, block snowy knights on gilman, and ornus will only give you jerboas

which are right outside the guild

[cloud panther]

ty

but wouldn't you also need cervus to block red chins?

guess that won't be needed till 63

[smoky raft]

By default, Wolf (Master) will only assign Red Chinchompas, Sunlight Antelopes, Tecu Salamanders, Moonlight Moths, and Moonlight Antelopes

Pretty sure you could block any 4 of those to only get the task that you want

It's more work input but in the end you'll be getting master tier rewards

[old tapir]

by the way it seems like ornus will continue to be jerboa only even with karamja

so you can grab that safely

[smoky raft]

Wolf's task list gets fucked up if you get kandarin. There's one more target if you take Tir but that can also be blocked

[somber meadow]

is KwD like the best region choices for the kings barrage build?

[smoky raft]

wait nvm I was reading it wrong

why K

[fickle jasper]

I wonder if task blocking will even work for rumors

I vaguely recall that not working last league

[smoky raft]

rumour blocking has always been a bit fucked up, mostly because it seemingly isn't intentional

Jagex really needs to just make it an actual thing

[somber meadow]

kandarin gives anguish and balista super easy region for points for the most part

[old tapir]

just high slayer reqs

don't underestimate that

[somber meadow]

yes but im not there early for the echo boss

[smoky raft]

I think Rigour is a bigger upgrade than Anguish- are you taking Grimoire?

[cloud panther]

so for wolf you need Gil blocking Moonlight Antelope, Teco blocking sunlight antelope, aco blocking tecu salamander, and cerv blocking red chins

that would leave moonlight moth for wolf

[old tapir]

rigour is big especially with the pact that boosts it

[somber meadow]

Abundance
Woodsman
Evil Eye
Transmutation
Larcenist
Culling Spree
Reloaded - Endless Harvest
Minion
this is my relic choices if i go kwd

im just so undecided because of going mage sounds fun and if i go mage im going into air build and rushing dragon skipping raids

[smoky raft]

If you feel comfortable running CoX I'd suggest Z over K

ah skipping raids

wait then what's the point of Desert if not Masori

just Venator ring?

[somber meadow]

but thats the thing im not looking to go mage im looking to all in the kings barrage that was my question on thoughts/opinions of Kand wildy desert

[smoky raft]

oh I read it wrong I think

[somber meadow]

masori venator ring rc solve without forcing soul harvest

so kand gives me anguish/balista for spec wep wildy gives me the bread and butter cbow and desert gives me bis armour

[smoky raft]

Hm.

Maybe Asgarnia instead of Kandarin, honestly. Fury isn't terrible, and Asgarnia would give you access to fortified masori, ZCB, and Deadeye

[cloud panther]

I got a solve for all but agil and partial herby

[smoky raft]

regions?

[somber meadow]

but thats also the thing tho is kandarin will give me that staff for when im doing toa which im going the water build with the king's barrage

[cloud panther]

Kand-Priff-Mory, Eh-Wood-Evil-Trans-Larc-Cull-Reload into soul

[smoky raft]

• Kand

You have solved agility

[fickle jasper]

Transmutation will in part help with herblore

[smoky raft]

seers village and ardy rooftops

[cloud panther]

tans and wood will partly help with it but it will still be fairly annoying

[smoky raft]

even without Hotfoot you'll be getting good xp

[cloud panther]

trans not tans

as for agil ye, im just gunna power through it

[smoky raft]

wait FUCK I just realized a hole in my plan

[cloud panther]

maybe when I need to afk for a while I will drop by barb fishing for a bit of xp

?

[pallid prism]

Krystilia will still be accessible from wilderness correct?

[smoky raft]

I was going to do some quests to get my melee stats up for blue moon but Fight Arena is autocompleted because it's a prereq for DT2

[smoky raft]

doesn't matter, all slayer masters act the same during leagues

You'll get larrans keys whenever slaying in the wilderness regardless of who assigned it

[pallid prism]

Ahhh true tyvm

[cloud panther]

that's not a huge hole, you will just need to take time and lvl it by beating the crab

you get 1.5x boost at I think t3 or t4 so it won't be that bad

ye t3, so that will be a x12 boost in combat skills

[plain glacier]

idk u should ditch your entire plan and start from scratch

[smoky raft]

I think you're right

I've still got time to start over

[plain glacier]

exactly

[cloud panther]

what all are you aiming for

[lapis flax]

i dont think fight arena is auto completed

dt2 is auto completed yes but thats just for vard access

its pre reqs arent auto completed

otherwise everyone would have ancients without desert

[plain glacier]

i think only the regions that say mm2 and all its pre reqs are actually like that

[cloud panther]

no the pre-reqs are also completed. But you need to be able to enter the desert to switch spellbooks without grimoire

[lapis flax]

so at 99 mage anyone can access ancients?

wait

cant get mage cape can you

nvm

[plain glacier]

any1 can get max cape

so just max and yes

[lapis flax]

isnt max cape asg?

[cloud panther]

it is sold by the league helper guy in league

[plain glacier]

they said they are making max cape at leagues guy

[lapis flax]

ahh

ic

[unique smelt]

Does Corp have to be soloed for the pact point?

[lapis flax]

i think as long as you get kc in chat box its fine

[lapis flax]

doesnt say it auto completes

you should be able to do it

[cloud panther]

anywho I got stuff to do, cya

[lapis flax]

if you look at the blog post it doesnt say the pre-reqs will be auto completed only the quests

but if you take desert it auto completes dt2 prereqs

so yea you can do fight arena just fine when taking kandarin

[ashen arrow]

can you GWD with others in leagues?

[merry veldt]

Is their a discord channel for leagues to voice talk?

[lapis flax]

leagues disc

not this one

[merry veldt]

U got a link sir?

[lapis flax]

#affiliate-communities

[lapis flax]

should be able to

everyone is an ironman though so unless you do the most dmg you wont get the drop

[ashen arrow]

my friend said you cant do it as ironman which is leagues right

[lapis flax]

wait

[ashen arrow]

which makes sense

[lapis flax]

maybe you cant actually

maybe just nex

prolly not the other 4

[merry veldt]

TYVM

[fickle jasper]

Pretty sure standard gwd is solo only

Only nex can be done in a group

But the pact task requires a solo kill

[lapis flax]

yeah makes sense cause irons lose loot access if someone else hits

[fickle jasper]

The same probably applies to corp too

[nocturne flume]

Guys is hunting fast in osrs? I’m rs3 player and I don’t have hunter solve.

[fickle jasper]

That said, with how powerful we will be, soloing them will be trivail

[fickle jasper]

Everything is fast in leagues

[lapis flax]

hunting is pretty quick

even in base game

[nocturne flume]

Nice

[fickle jasper]

But it is also one of the faster non-buyable and non-combat skills to train even in the main game

Just will require a decent bit of attention and constant clicking

[ashen arrow]

can do rumors before you even unlock karamja for faster xp too

thats how the laef guide is doing it atleast

[fickle jasper]

Gl doing rumours on day one

[nocturne flume]

I don’t mind active play I just don’t wanna be doing 5 box traps for 6 hours

That’s how hunter was when I played back in the day lol

[lapis flax]

then save hunter for when you have 16x xp

hunter rumours makes it a bit better

but if you dont like hunter then its not like its any different

[hexed sand]

Hey there guys hope we are all excited for the leagues tomorrow!
I made a simple web app to visualize the routes better, posted on reddit about it! If you don't like white background for your early routes maybe check it out, or not idk
https://www.reddit.com/r/2007scape/comments/1slswhq/comment/og93ck5/
Doubleshine, Faux, Mahzar and Wiki's Laef route are all included
(I hate light mode routes so that's why I made it)
If it's useful to you all at all please do use it!

[nocturne flume]

Nice I will save that link

[smoky raft]

6 and a half hours left chat

I will see you all when I wake up at 4 in the fucking morning

[boreal imp]

If I don’t want to wc mine or fish is abundance the better relic?

[smoky raft]

I mean

you're gonna have to do some of all of those eventually

[boreal imp]

is slayer considered a noncmb skill?

[smoky raft]

slayer is not a combat skill

[boreal imp]

so abundance would increase slayer xp ?

[smoky raft]

but abundance is considered the best choice for getting to the higher tiers

[smoky raft]

it owuld increase slayer level by 10

this will let you slay monsters early but will not let you get assigned tasks for said monsters

the boost provided by abundance follows all the same restrictions as regular temporary boosts

[boreal imp]

do we need a torture to craft a rancor

[smoky raft]

no

[boreal imp]

perfect

ty

outside of rumors is there an early method for hunting

[analog wren]

I'm going with the King's Barrage build and taking Wilderness, Desert and Asgarnia.

anyone knows what's the best region order?

[lapis flax]

prolly what you put

[analog wren]

never went any of these last league and don't want to struggle with tasks early

[lapis flax]

wildy is usually a pretty easy/quick area task wise

and asgarnia has a lot of boss tasks and difficult ones at that

so thats prolly better for last

[analog wren]

yeah I feel like wildy first is definitely the play

it would be better if I get to revs early

[austere mango]

Hey I’m a rs3 player so I’m new to this new area we start in. Anyone has a vid they suggest on the new area? Like that shows the basics and like how to get around?

[unique smelt]

Transmute doesn't work in the background right>? It's not like GG from last leagues?

[mint stone]

Open youtube and write: "Faux leagues day 1"

Pretty much a walkthrough of what you need / can do

[mint stone]

From what I've seen on videos it even works during combat, but I need to see it personally ingame to be sure

[molten gust]

Actually I think they confirmed it does.

[unique smelt]

Hell yeah

[molten gust]

Though sadly its only the transmut version of high and low alch. Regular high alch will not.

[obtuse moat]

The special new spells it comes with are automatic as long as the same item is in the same slot. High alch no auto cast 🙁

[unique smelt]

With barbarian gathering, do I have to stop to drop things?

[wary egret]

should go to bed but too excited to sleep

[unique smelt]

Or can I toggle the knapsack to destroy certain resources?

[weak current]

You’ll get a pouch that’ll carry the items listed

[unique smelt]

Yes, but if I wanted to go afk at bwans

Can I stop it from actually getting the bwans into the knapsack?

[unique cedar]

"We're not ready to reveal this just yet, you shouldn't be looking here... naughty, naughty!"
dad jagex forget this rule

[unique smelt]

with the destroy option

[winged trout]

I'm looking for point cap, any guides out there on a good build relics, regions etc to go for?

[toxic vortex]

https://www.reddit.com/r/2007scape/s/muFT5E3K5I

For you transmuters in the chat

[unique smelt]

Wilderness is going to be insane, even with 30 league worlds that's 30 people in the world doing crazy arch or chaos ele at a time??????

[flint cape]

anyone confused about why we must cry near children? 😭😭😭

[stiff hinge]

i don't understand why you would ever transmute runes for money

the biggest value difference between runes is 250

[flint cape]

lmao is that what people are doing for money?

[stiff hinge]

i fucking hope not

[flint cape]

i mean at least you can do 10 runes at a time ig?

[stiff hinge]

everybody gets karamja

[flint cape]

im just happy transmute gives me infinite seeds in zeah

[glossy niche]

how many hours from now is leagues release?

[flint cape]

5

[glossy niche]

goat ty

[stiff hinge]

you can buy iron ore for 22 tokkul and sell runite for either 1120 tokkul or 2240gp

[unique smelt]

Yes but runes are 1 stack in your inventory @stiff hinge , so go live your life with a stack of 40000 runes in inventory, and make insane profit

We don't have noting from shops

So the general strat is buy fire transmute to Chaos while you go play for 4 hours, then profit

Iron would be active

[stiff hinge]

the ore shop is like 20 tiles from a bank

[unique smelt]

Yes, 12000 items per hour though.....

I don't wanna buy and note 12000 iron ore

Gems are already gonna be a pain to shopscape, but those are insane money too

Go to aldarin and cut gems, then sell straight back

Stand in that one spot and get 80 crafting in 2 hours without any relic

Also make roughly 12 mil

(This is with 12x, It's longer with less xp)

But anyway, if you pick transmute, early on in your leagues journey go buy 12000 fire runes

Transmute to chaos and get roughly 40x your stack size in gp

Roughly 500k an hour profit

[mint stone]

Endless harvest, take note out of bank, trasmute afk.

Ofcourse it depends if you take these 🙂

Otherwise... suffer

[mint stone]

Personally, larcenist at tirannwn, won't ever have gp worries

[flint cape]

how likely is it you get a tree seed from a tier 5 seed pack

[molten gust]

For money the best to transmute is either gems or ore to its highest levels.

[daring thunder]

Do chinchompas regenerate from pacts?

[unique smelt]

Yep!

[languid lintel]

water mage into clue relic into giga buffed imp nod

[pale kernel]

so, is butler actually worse than the xp on the wiki longterm? he can only process his own resources, so you'd have to do a 1:2 ratio of him gathering:processing. That means for ~50 days it's really only ~34 days of processing since you'd need the other 16 or so days to gather. Someone tell me otherwise pls

[stiff hinge]

no he just creates shit out of thin air, he doesn't actually process existing materials

[flint cape]

The probability of getting at least one of these 7 tree seeds in a single Tier 5 pack is approximately 53.7%.

nice

[frail condor]

When leagues starts and we are on the leagues world and the accoutn settings are all set to default, is there any easy way to copy the ones from main game over into the leagues world.
(Not asking about RL profiles, I mean the literal in game settings)

[flint cape]

if you have transmute and zeah as soon as you get one acorn you have infinite seeds

[torpid trench]

If I link my current pact builder, will it share my choices?

[pure karma]

what time do leagues start exactly?

[stiff hinge]

4 hours

[torpid trench]

Front page of wiki has a countdown

[eternal pilot]

how does one craft wrath runes in kandarin??

[lapis flax]

general store has wrath talisman

[eternal pilot]

isnt the altar locked behind ds2

[lapis flax]

kandarin unlock gives you myths guild access

you get ds2 completion

[eternal pilot]

oh sweet baby jesus my builds alive

[lapis flax]

🤣

[eternal pilot]

thoguht i couldnt get those runes

im trying to go air/fire mage primarily, dont really have a good way to get anient spells to need fire for aoe

[torpid trench]

https://tools.runescape.wiki/demonic-pacts/?n=1-10-100-101-11-112-113-114-12-123-133-15-16-17-18-2-21-24-29-30-31-4-44-45-55-59-68-7-8-87-92-94-96-99

So Im planning to take Wildy for the crossbow, Zeah for Cox, and Desert for ToA (its just my fave raid). Ive only got a few points left, if Im going raiding, I assume scythe will end up being my melee weapon? Or is there some league weapon I can get?

[stiff hinge]

one of scythe, fang, nally as is appropriate for content probably

[lapis flax]

there is the echo boppers from varlamore but they wont compare to scythe

[lapis flax]

he cant get nally in his regions

[supple minnow]

the theories and plans channel is quite empty... is that right?

[lapis flax]

fang is a good shout tho

[torpid trench]

Kinda overlooked it tbh, so big ty for the fang

So if my regions have me going fang/scythe content dependant, any tips on how to split my remaining few points to help them? Or should I just sink em into random crap?

[lapis flax]

are you aiming for a tribrid setup?

i assume youll be using like dfs with the fang

could go the thorns build

[torpid trench]

Not really, my main focus was min-maxing my crossbow, which resulted in me taking almost all range and then the whole water magic tree, and then I just had a few points left so I figured Id round out some melee since idk where else to put

[lapis flax]

could also go down thew blindbag path

something like that with the remaining 6

would be nice if you could get tothis node if you wanted to use the fang instead tho

[ebon hearth]

will our god and savior woox return

[lapis flax]

maybe somethign like this

you cant get thorns tho with that

so idk

[lapis flax]

sure that could work

more dmg on fang and access to blindbag though not boosted so will be worse

the other option would jsut be more accuracy and regen chance and forgo melee altogether

https://tools.runescape.wiki/demonic-pacts/?n=1-10-100-101-11-112-113-114-12-123-133-15-16-17-18-2-21-24-29-30-31-38-39-4-44-45-55-56-57-58-59-60-68-7-8-87-92-94-96-99

something like this

[torpid trench]

https://tools.runescape.wiki/demonic-pacts/?n=1-10-100-101-11-112-113-114-12-123-139-140-141-145-15-17-18-2-21-24-29-30-31-4-44-45-55-59-68-7-71-74-8-81-84-87-92-94-96-99

[lapis flax]

the off hand equipped node in the ranged tree seems a little troll since the kbd xbow is 2h

[torpid trench]

Oh I just saw your link

lemme open that

[eternal pilot]

kinda wish i could designed 2 differnt autocasts on 2 differnt staffs

[lapis flax]

i would prolly take the other tick reducer in the mage tree not the powered staff one

well

actually

you only go down water for kbd xbow right

[torpid trench]

Planning to go range then ayak/shadow

Yeah

[lapis flax]

you arent actually using ice spells

[torpid trench]

nope

and the kbd cast doesnt regen runes

[lapis flax]

i tdont think you need this node

kbd xbow is 2h right

[stiff hinge]

it is

[torpid trench]

i assume so

[lapis flax]

yeah so that doesnt really do anything

[lapis flax]

fair

as for the thorns path that you posted idk if that really fits either cause you need to use a shield for thorns to proc

ig it would work with the ayak

[torpid trench]

oh true

[lapis flax]

but, doesnt really seem what you are after

[wary egret]

Kandarin or wildy first unlock. You guys decide

[lapis flax]

either are good picks

[eternal pilot]

im doing moritainya

[lapis flax]

kinda depends how you want to do your route

kbd is prolly easier to do than thermy since thermy needs aslayer

[stiff hinge]

i flipped a coin and it came up kandarin for you

glhf

[eternal pilot]

go for quick easy barrows gear if i get a amulet its some of the BIS gear IMO

[torpid trench]

Yeah with 2/3 of my main weapons being 2h, 3/3 if I manage a scythe, I really wont use shields often

[eternal pilot]

decent slayer master aswell

[stiff hinge]

all masters give exactly the same tasks in leagues

it's just a question of what mobs you have access to

[wary egret]

https://tenor.com/view/hmm-undecided-jeff-goldblum-speechless-i-cant-gif-16009127

[eternal pilot]

ijm talking location

hes close to his slayer tower

[lapis flax]

if you wanted to mainly range stuff you could opt for some prayer pen, i dont really know if much stuff prays ranged in your regions though. does warden pray against ranged at some point?

[torpid trench]

P2

[stiff hinge]

akkha prays against everything in total

[torpid trench]

and akkh as well

so prayer pen could be bigly

[lapis flax]

1 sec

https://tools.runescape.wiki/demonic-pacts/?n=1-10-100-101-11-112-113-114-123-133-15-16-164-17-18-2-21-24-29-30-31-38-39-4-44-45-55-56-58-59-68-7-8-87-91-92-94-96-97-99

this gives you 60% prayer pen

its more of an all in kbd xbow build ig

lose 30% regen chance and 15% accuracy bonus in exchange for 30 prayer pen but you already have 115% in both regen and acc bonus plus the xbow capstone for accuracy so i think its probably better like this?

[stiff hinge]

i wonder if 1 node of prayer pen will be enough for demonbane to kill doom bugs

[coral basin]

If im planning on playing like a solid 16 hours this weekend alone would you guys recommend BG or EH

[lapis flax]

endless harvest gets you twice the resources and allows you to afk later on when you arent playing as much, BG will harvest stuff much quicker but youll have to switch nodes and is more active

just depends on whether you think youll want the afk later or not ig

you get a lot more resources from both options

[coral basin]

I don't know how afk ill be in like, a month from now

[lapis flax]

the other thing to consider is, what do you think will be more fun for you personally

barb gathering also gives a little bit of agi tho not much

are you a hotfoot user?

[pulsar wigeon]

How long does the league go for?

[lapis flax]

58 days

about 2 months

[coral basin]

I will be hotfoot yes

[lapis flax]

so maybe barb is a bit less valueable then

since your agi is already good

[coral basin]

Yeah

[lapis flax]

the agi from barb really is kinda the last reason youd pick it

but it might sway your decision at least

[coral basin]

Whats the tool solve then

I guess i just need to make / buy what i need

[lapis flax]

why do you need exceptional tools

if you cant get dragon or crystal in your areas you just use rune

runes fine

[coral basin]

Yeah rune should be easy enough to get

[terse heath]

can buy rune pick at cam torum

[lapis flax]

axe from tree spirits through fairy ring (assuming they are accessable) and pick axe from cam torum in varla

prolly wont be crafting a rune axe

🤣

unless you rush smithing before wc

[coral basin]

I wonder whats good crafting xp early

[lapis flax]

you can get to 20 with molten glass from charter ship east of likely spawn point then go to the gem shop in aldarin and buy gems cut them and sell them back

also makes you a lot of money doing that

you only need like 13 molten glass and blowiung it for 20 crafting

somethign like that anyway

well, the materials to make molten glass at least

[coral basin]

Ah yeah

[lapis flax]

cause most shops should have infinite stock

never decaying also you cant oversell, like the stock always stays the same

so selling the gems back is huge profit

[torpid trench]

If I take Kourend and Desert regions, Ill have access to thralls and ancient magicks, right?

[lapis flax]

you go there with like 100 gp and come out with 500k and 60 crafting

🤣

[lapis flax]

yep

[torpid trench]

Do I take flow state for insane afk gains on mobile while im working, or do I reload into grimoire, letting me drop zeah since I dont need prayers anymore?

My only goal for pts is to make sure my iron account gets access to the imp override for his thralls

[lapis flax]

do you not want zeah for any other reason than rigour?

[torpid trench]

Thralls until T8, i dont think theres anything else

Gonna take the summon at T8, so after that thralls are deadge

[stiff hinge]

also i just realized that doom is going to be the saddest content for mage lol, trapped casting demonbane instead of your chosen element

unless your chosen element is fire

[lapis flax]

at least kandarin pickers can autocast it with shadowflame staff

[tacit oyster]

why do you need to cast demonbane? you can kill grubs without it too

[lapis flax]

its prolly more dps to just use surge spells 🤣

with all the pacts

[torpid trench]

If I drop zeah by reloading into the book, I guess I would take Asgarnia and send nex for vambs/spec wep?

[lapis flax]

if you take asg i wouldnt even bother with grimoire

you get deadeye

flow state prolly better than grimoire overall

but also its up to you

if you really wont be making much use of flow state then by all means

[coral basin]

With EH, im almost assuredly taking flow state

The only thing i would reload into would be soul harvest and i dont think i care about RC that much

[stiff hinge]

doesn't doom shield up and kind of fuck you over if you don't have demonbane

does the shield expire?

[lapis flax]

just kill it before he uses it

[stiff hinge]

🤔

[bleak thicket]

prayer penetration

and the overhead melee punish doesnt require demonbane

[torpid trench]

So Wilderness, Desert, Asgarnia, in that order, gets me a range build with the bigger blacker bow, my prefered raid+range armor+melee weps, and then finally Asg gets me giant prayers, zaryte bow and vamps, GWD access for fun... That doesnt sound too bad, and afking will be bigly for me since I can afk like 6h/day at work in "0-time" gains

[lapis flax]

you can also fortify your masori

which doesnt matter much but its somethign

[stiff hinge]

it's not a prayer, it's a shield that only takes damage from demonbane

[torpid trench]

How do you even fort maso?

Ive never done it

[lapis flax]

you feed it armadyl pieces

[stiff hinge]

you can blow larvae up on him instead i guess

[bleak thicket]

The Infernal tecpatl is a two handed echo weapon that can be obtained from Echo Amoxliatl in the Demonic Pacts League.

The weapon can attack in all melee styles and will hit twice when attacking. The infernal tecpatl also has 10% demonbane, providing increased accuracy and damage against demons

[stiff hinge]

right and if you're not taking melee pacts it will be much much worse than your actual preferred style

[bleak thicket]

damage dealt with ur demonbane weapon doesnt matter on shield phase even on maingame

[stiff hinge]

fair enough

[half moat]

How many hours til it drops? Any ideas?

[lapis flax]

3.5

[tired quiver]

no full task list yet?

[lapis flax]

no

will either be released with the league or maybe like 30 minutes before

[tired quiver]

but i like planning goddamnit lol

[tired quiver]

but it is launch day xD

[lapis flax]

yep

[tired quiver]

atleast give us 3 hours goddamn

[lapis flax]

and it will be launch day after it launches too

[stiff hinge]

just look at them in game :)

[lapis flax]

i mean, the most important part is the start, its not like you can really plan a whole lot afterwards, a lot of the tasks will be the same too, like level tasks etc

[stiff hinge]

sense of pride and accomplishment :)

or something

[lapis flax]

im sure you wiull have some downtime whjile skilling early that you can look ahead

[stiff hinge]

half an hour after clicking an iron rock

[pure karma]

do i lose anything if im not there on launch?

[lapis flax]

not really

time to play i guess