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small flower
slim shadow
Bro you are going to 5 hit Vardorvis lol
small flower
hm, they still haven't put the tecpatl spec into dps calc
slim shadow
I almost wanna take larcenist just because I feel like blood fury upkeep is going to be a hassle
toxic vortex
small flower
well, i doubt i'd 5 hit him, but 30s kills sounds alright to me
https://dps.osrs.wiki?id=SpyologyIronBond is mya ctual plan
slim shadow
Yeah you’re going to eat through blood fury charges since blind bag will likely take charges too
stiff hinge
can't wait to make five thousand sapphire rings for suffering charges
stiff hinge
it probably won't
small flower
yea, probably not
small flower
Yeah you’re going to eat through blood fury charges since blind bag will likely ...
good thing larcenist is 10x loot
slim shadow
It says weapon charges so I doubt any worn items
twin ermine
Bro I can’t decide on my third region
small flower
whatcha plannin
twin ermine
Clock is ticking lmao
small flower
eh
you'll still have like 4 or 5 days after launch to actually figure last region out
unless you're one'a them speedy boiz
twin ermine
I think I’m going with the dinhs blindbag shenanigans, and I want at least zeah and mory
small flower
i mean kand is a pretty clear boost to that gimmick with suffering
gets you triple reflect
and a good chunk more defenses
grizzled dove
if your doing ele mage build, and you use a steam rune for casting a water spell, do you regen a steam rune and then get the bonus of regening a water and fire rune?
small flower
ah, tir definitely gives you more versatility outside of the dinhs
small flower
if your doing ele mage build, and you use a steam rune for casting a water spell...
i think you regen the steam and get neither bonus because you didn't regen a water or a fire
stiff hinge
if your doing ele mage build, and you use a steam rune for casting a water spell...
Regeneration just looks at the cost of the spell, not whether or not you actually used the runes
from husky
that was in regards to wrath runes from fountain, but still
twin ermine
ah, tir definitely gives you more versatility outside of the dinhs
I was also thinking just going TZM and dropping the thorns slot, haven’t decided if I think it’s the most fun yet
grizzled dove
> Regeneration just looks at the cost of the spell, not whether or not you actua...
oh so you get the water bonus from casting water surge but nothing else
stiff hinge
i mean, you get the water and air bonus since it uses both water and air runes
small flower
oh so you get the water bonus from casting water surge but nothing else
no, you get teh pact bonuses based on the runes regenerated
hold on
he did answer this specific question, lemme find it
grizzled dove
no, you get teh pact bonuses based on the runes regenerated
yes but he just said regen looks at spell cost lol
twin ermine
Bit since I’ll mostly be raiding it’s a thing of do I even care to have crystal? I can just shield bash everything and hally things like zuk
stiff hinge
Regeneration happens once but takes into account how many runes the spell cast regenerated. Infinite rune sources still trigger regenerations
Spells which use both a water and and air rune for example, can trigger two different regenerations, one for the number of air runes you used and one for the number of water runes you used
Combination runes trigger both of the regenerations but regenerate into their separate runes, so regenerating a mistrune will proc both but return you an air and a water rune
Regeneration only triggers for runes that were actually required by the spell. So no using combination runes to trigger regeneration effects from earth/fire for a water spell (air/water)
small flower
Bit since I’ll mostly be raiding it’s a thing of do I even care to have crystal?...
ye just comes down to if you wanna have some other styles in the bag or push the main build to its limit
stiff hinge
that's really funny though, since it means combo runes just shit up your inventory for no reason
being able to double-dip combo runes for all the effects would be hilarious though
small flower
yea everyone would just use either the fire or the water combo
stiff hinge
cast fire surge, get the effect of 10 fire, 10 water with steam, and 7 air, 7 earth with dust
small flower
lol
stiff hinge
fair and balanced
small flower
or air with smoke runes, really push that constant maxhit
stiff hinge
also i just realized something really annoying, you need fremmy or grimoire to make aether runes
since you need lunars for magic imbue
small flower
do we need aether runes?
stiff hinge
no but it'd be a nice way to do RC later on
small flower
ah
grizzled dove
also with the quadrent staff, if im casting water surge, and it "auto changes" to fire for weakness, it still considers me casting water surge and giving me the water and air rune buffs correct?
small flower
oh isee
stiff hinge
also with the quadrent staff, if im casting water surge, and it "auto changes" t...
yes
small flower
i guess that's not bad for going grim yea
stiff hinge
quadrant just makes you always benefit from whatever the best available weakness is, while still casting the spell you're actually casting
small flower
they may have overcorrected with thermy lol
the combo of the 2 effects is busted
XD
wispy grotto
why isnt smoke barrage better than wind surge with the smoke spell pact?
small flower
because of the 40% boost from shadowflame
stiff hinge
nah dude mage fucking sucked in basically every league except for 4
small flower
only place smoke comes out ahead is in wildy using accursed
stiff hinge
and that was just because you could abuse berserker forcing max hits with slow projectiles, and get three max hits for free
small flower
ye
wispy grotto
because of the 40% boost from shadowflame
so the shadowflame only affects regular spellbook even with the pact that makes smoke spells count as air?
stiff hinge
yes
small flower
yea it doesn't make it a standard spell
it just makes it air elemental
you're choosing aoe vs single tho
so ancients may still have utility somewhere
well, and in wildy
wispy grotto
aoe will be useful for slayer
small flower
yea
stiff hinge
is it even better?
stiff hinge
shadowflame is 15% and 40%, accursed is "just" 50%
although i guess it's accuracy too
small flower
plus fire regen
wispy grotto
well you benefit barraging slayer tasks
mint stone
so ancients may still have utility somewhere
Inferno? Won't it be incredibly helpful in there?
small flower
i mean what else am i doing with autocast inside a wildy zone
small flower
i'm gonna count it as a slay task XD
wispy grotto
Inferno? Won't it be incredibly helpful in there?
nah, youll just air spell
deft plover
You still gain the cooking/smithing exp from the auto processing of hot foot boots right?
stiff hinge
yes
deft plover
Noice ty
mint stone
nah, youll just air spell
So air surge until a bit lower hp and then water surge?
small flower
Inferno? Won't it be incredibly helpful in there?
ice barrage turned water for inferno sure
stiff hinge
no actually degrading raises a good point, hitting smoke barrage and oneshotting the nibblers would be really good
wispy grotto
youll just chin nibblers and stay on regular spellbook for the run
small flower
that would be better
small flower
sure
wispy grotto
uh
stiff hinge
not really no
wispy grotto
sure if you dont wanna get vey far
small flower
just don't skill
heady estuary
I just wanna boss
small flower
you can play the game however you want 😄
heady estuary
And try new items
small flower
i bet you could get to T4 witout skilling
heady estuary
And path of exile combat shit
heady estuary
I clearly remember how I stopped playing last league
stiff hinge
Is there a way to play leagues without doing all ahh stuff
this isn't tiktok you are allowed to say ass i promise
you won't get banned
heady estuary
I was doing farm run and I had like post nut clarity
Just said dont wanna do this shit
small flower
yea just dont farm then
wispy grotto
take friendly forager dont farm if thats ur issue
heady estuary
this isn't tiktok you are allowed to say ass i promise
My zoomer partner caused this
I didnt even have tik tok before
wispy grotto
"partner" is a very tiktok thing to say
heady estuary
Now I am braindamaged
stiff hinge
i think all the pacts are tied to combat related tasks so i guess if you're a god gamer and you can just do all the combat tasks available without bothering with food or herblore or w/e you can get all your pacts
small flower
not like you have to push points or rank or any of that, just start however
small flower
yea, you'll probably be doing some skililng at the start
heady estuary
I dont care about rank
small flower
uhh, if that one site is to be believed, t7 for last area? but idk where he got that info
heady estuary
Just wanna try items and that whole combat skill tree
small flower
or if he just put it there randomly until info was actually found
heady estuary
I kinda see no point in mega grinding leagues or any temp accounts
small flower
Just wanna try items and that whole combat skill tree
some combat pact points are tied to skill levels
like crafting
wispy grotto
Just wanna try items and that whole combat skill tree
if you wanna do the whole combat tree youll have to get all 3 zones, its gonna be impossible to avoid playing the game
small flower
yea you don't have to max or anything
wispy grotto
yeah just get enough points for t8 and unlock all the zone
and do the skilling for pact tasks
and then u can chill
heady estuary
I would like to do more colo
Maybe somehow learn something and try it on normal later
stiff hinge
oh i guess you do need to do skilling for some tasks
small flower
yea like the equip a blowpipe one
heady estuary
I also like clues but I see not much help with that
small flower
there's a couple
heady estuary
Leagues before made clues better I remember
stiff hinge
80 smithing for godswords, 89 crafting for zenytes, 57 thieving for grubby chest, 55 crafting for slayer helm, 90 crafting for bfury, 78 fletching for bp
heady estuary
57 thieving thats like fast
heady estuary
A lot of crafting
small flower
Leagues before made clues better I remember
the clue relic this time around sorta combines the 2 from last league, but it's not infinite teleports for it, you get the tele's as you do more clues
stiff hinge
the clue relic means that you can just teleport to the majority of your clue steps
small flower
a few of the relics this time are sort of a mash-up of previous similar ones
small flower
overall buff, but part of the utility got removed from the really strong one
stiff hinge
the average is slightly fewer teleports than you need to do steps to finish the clues
small flower
EH-hotfoot-??-butler-larcenist-??-??-Minion is pretty lazy, and effective
stiff hinge
actually easies give more than, huh
fickle pine
I know it is a meme, but is the sage axe an autocast execution or does it need to be equipped?
stiff hinge
has to be equipped
small flower
equip
fickle pine
lame
stiff hinge
yeah
small flower
you could, technically , just mainhand the thing
with the 80% melee str to range str
lol
heady estuary
I remember during leagues or gridmaster
stiff hinge
it just sucks since it has zero stats lol
stiff hinge
yeah that sounds right
small flower
probably last leagues, the 10x10 pickpocket aoe was nuts
you dont get aoe this time, but pickpocket loot is 10x
which is probably stronger on elves/vyres
fickle pine
I like that the rougues outfit bonueses off the 10x
small flower
can always reload back into butler at t7
stiff hinge
conniving clues gives you 10x increased clue drop rates, 1/15 clue drop on kill, and larcenist gets you 10x clues
mint stone
probably last leagues, the 10x10 pickpocket aoe was nuts
I think the new relic is better, you don't need 10 npcs, just 1.
small flower
i agree
stiff hinge
yeah
small flower
new relic is by far better
stiff hinge
it's worse in some specific situations but much stronger in general
small flower
ye, not like you ever got more than 3? elves in one spot anyway
unless there was some weird shenanigans someone pulled off
i'd much rather not carea bout that, sit on one guy and know that every crystal drop is 10x
blood shards too
heady estuary
Gonna go trough all relics need to think
Even first one I am not sure
This knapsack seems weird but maybe good
mint stone
I am wondering about agility, I am going to pick Endless Harvest and Woodsman, and I was thinking to level agility by fishing at barb fishing spot at the outpost, but checked the xp rates and they are abysmal D:
Hope I won't end up spamming rooftops
fickle pine
I am wondering about agility, I am going to pick Endless Harvest and Woodsman, a...
you will be spamming rooftops
small flower
or sepulchre
heady estuary
First relic means unlimited fishing, woodcutting and mining
But do I even care for that
wispy grotto
But do I even care for that
we don't know, do you?
heady estuary
I just want whatever helps with pvm or clues
mint stone
I have the day off tomorrow, gon be so lit. Get me some pizza and coke zero and game all day 😮
mint stone
end up just endless harvesting some rock for 5hours lol
small flower
it's not tomorrow
stiff hinge
i hope by tomorrow you mean "wednesday because it's currently 3am on tuseday"
mint stone
I also wonder about Abundance
Are you going to pick Larce?
stiff hinge
at this time of day or night most people would describe "tomorrow" as being, like, 14ish hours away at this point
small flower
abundance speeds everything up a little, gets you cash and lets you do things with less skilling
mint stone
Abundance imo isn't worth taking if you take larce
fickle pine
abundance > Friendly Forager > Evil Eye > Transmutation > Larcenist > culling spree > reload woodsman > minion
small flower
EH with a reload back to abundance would probably make barb fishing decent agil xp
mint stone
abundance > Friendly Forager > Evil Eye > Transmutation > Larcenist > culling sp...
Friendly Forger? what regions are you taking
stiff hinge
abundance is very strong for what it's good at, which is giving you money and buffing high frequency, low drop exp sources/skills
small flower
ye
heady estuary
With friendly forager I can ignore farming right
small flower
for potions yes
mint stone
With friendly forager I can ignore farming right
I wouldn't say you need it... Farming is insane xp alone
fickle pine
Friendly Forger? what regions are you taking
asgarnia kandarin kourend
mint stone
plus you are taking transmu
small flower
he's looking to just not skill if possible
heady estuary
I dont wanna farm or do herb runs
mint stone
I got 99 in main game from basically just checking health on trees
fickle pine
my regions give me 5 trees
mint stone
the xp is high
heady estuary
Wanna shoot myself if I need to do herb run on iron
small flower
if he wants to do clues, would have to reload back to either conniving or transute to get it
stiff hinge
I got 99 in main game from basically just checking health on trees
literally everybody does that lmao
stiff hinge
that's just the least effort involved to get exp
mint stone
take woodsman imo
fickle pine
I can region lock myself to Varlamore and get the 25 clue tasks done relatively easy. grind for 75 later
mint stone
hunter is a b of a skill to train
small flower
again, if his point is skipping skilling where possible
heady estuary
Woodsman doesnt look useful
small flower
well
fickle pine
abundance and butterflies, leave the 99 for the reload
small flower
that means less other skilling in order to unlock new tiers
heady estuary
I can just leave fishing or wc for hours
stiff hinge
hunter is actually pretty nice in varlamore, and yeah, it makes fletching insanely fast
fickle pine
i need the points later, herb skill bonuses better if chosen at tier 2, more skilling as you climb
heady estuary
Free herbs
small flower
eh, early on yes, if you wanted to 99 herb yes
but if you're just leveling to make some pots to use
you'd probably get the herbs as boss drops
tho idk what regions you even want
fickle pine
I want 50 mill herb just like everything else
mint stone
When they say the fletching process is done at once, does that mean I can make 50k arrows with 1 click? I am prob daydreaming
stiff hinge
no, it says stackables are 10x the regular amount per action
small flower
it's limited to like 10x one action
stiff hinge
so you make 150 per two clicks
small flower
^
mint stone
ohhhh that's still amazing
heady estuary
Good potions still require higher levels
stiff hinge
yeah
small flower
yea
small flower
Good potions still require higher levels
true
stiff hinge
Good potions still require higher levels
it depends heavily on style tbh
mint stone
less carpal tunnel syndrome
stiff hinge
like mage can just get away with not doing herblore at all i think
heady estuary
I am just thinking
fickle pine
how are you going to solve super combat, the pots that you all built your damge output on in the dps calcs?
heady estuary
I will need agility anyway right
small flower
oh right, yea mage gets both defense and magic levels for free
heady estuary
I cant just ignore it
small flower
if you dont care about shortcuts we all have infinite run
and agil levels for any weird rando quest will be easy with the xp rates
fickle pine
I will need agility anyway right
when you get to 16x points, then do agility, get the levels you need to progress along the way
molten sleet
for thrown weapons on the pact tree, is "melee strength" at all based on the strength stat, or just weapons and gear?
stiff hinge
if you just want to pvm you could take evil eye and just not have to use shortcuts
mint stone
What are you guys going to spend your xp lamps on?
small flower
for thrown weapons on the pact tree, is "melee strength" at all based on the st...
gear stats
fickle pine
What are you guys going to spend your xp lamps on?
skills
molten sleet
gear stats
sad :(
heady estuary
Would love bloodbound pet
small flower
sad :(
there's the melee node that gives melee str half of prayer value, though idk how useful taht actually is, it might be worth 2 or 3 range str XD
heady estuary
But clues are kinda tied to pvm anyway
stiff hinge
bloodhound is such a pain
small flower
But clues are kinda tied to pvm anyway
larceny in kandarin would probably get you all the clues you ever want
: but idk what style you want, so regions depend?
fickle pine
abundance, also solves tasks faster, higher levels for lowered xp.
Woodsman is not needed right away, as you get more tasks dones, instead of hyperfocusing a few
molten sleet
there's the melee node that gives melee str half of prayer value, though idk how...
yeah but that's a stretch, especially cause it's easier to build str bonus than prayer bonus, for the most part
heady estuary
Can you not pick regions
small flower
you can yes
heady estuary
Like to do clues easiest less regions less variety I imagine
small flower
but what style of combat you wana go for would influence what regions you went for gear
heady estuary
Or something
stiff hinge
you can but it makes more sense to pick your regions around what combat style you want to use or what content you want to do
heady estuary
I wanna do colo but thats unlocked
small flower
ye
stiff hinge
like if you want to go mage you want to pick kandarin because it literally just gives you everything you could possibly need
small flower
wildy or desert or asg are clear picks
heady estuary
Need to look what echo items there is
small flower
kand is still decent for anguish
small flower
wildy for kbd crossbow is solid, zeah has echo hespori dropping a bow
fickle pine
I defintely need kandarin and zeah, asgarnia will give me the best 200 mill combat xp build in the dogger
heady estuary
Can I just use melle
small flower
sure
heady estuary
Ignore range and mage
small flower
you can use anything XD
stiff hinge
melee is a bit more complicated in terms of what you want to pick, you've got different options
you want mory in almost every case for melee though
small flower
there's prayer pen on the tree, so yea you could go pure melee and do akkha/warden fully with melee
heady estuary
But I mean is focusing single style possible
stiff hinge
yeah
small flower
or use a halberd for zulrah etc
heady estuary
Maybe I would go full melle
small flower
you can melee zuk this league
heady estuary
Morytania
stiff hinge
^
small flower
hally can have 7 range
heady estuary
Fremmenik
small flower
wut
heady estuary
What else
small flower
i was not expecting frem
fickle pine
Morytania, is the only region with melee life leech items
small flower
why fremm for melee
stiff hinge
tbf bfury is 6% life steal
heady estuary
Helmet
stiff hinge
it's not a compelling reason to pick for bfury, more the fact that it's a raid zone and has nally+rancour+justy+inq
small flower
w/e, if you like duke go for it, he's fun
hollow thicket
stupid question: we can't get barrows gloves since no misthalin?
stiff hinge
the downside of doing fremmy for v's helm is that it means having to actually do echo dags, and echo dags were so fucking awful to fight in leagues 5
correct, no barrows gloves
small flower
stupid question: we can't get barrows gloves since no misthalin?
yep! get ready to wear a regen brace, or granite gloves
fickle pine
I wish the Techpaddles had better synergy with the combat pacts
mint stone
you can melee zuk this league
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VyxQMM5PZ6I&t=183s
0:25second, insaneeee
ashen arrow
yo for leagues, could I go KTM and go early melee build, reset, go mage for awhile, then swap to blindbag halberd later? or will i hit a wall somewhere? im pretty sure you have 3 resets
mint stone
he does 600 damage in like 2-3seconds
hollow thicket
yep! get ready to wear a regen brace, or granite gloves
kinda funny this is the best str bonus
small flower
kinda funny this is the best str bonus
i mean there's fero gloves if you go zeah i suppose
small flower
yo for leagues, could I go KTM and go early melee build, reset, go mage for awhi...
yea, that'd work just fine, can have a tree set for prayer pen power staff and just burn CG grind easily, grab zenytes while you're at it and respec back to melee
ashen arrow
heck yeah, gives me 2 very different playstyles too for more fun
sucks not getting D for ancients tho
stiff hinge
Maybe I would go full melle
full melee setups are like, tirannwn+mory and then... i think just something you like the sound of the content in, for third region?
heady estuary
Why tiran?
lapis flax
ye or like kandarin for easy task completions
stiff hinge
tirannwn lets you get crystal blessing that applies the crystal armour effect to any melee weapon
ashen arrow
crystal armor
stiff hinge
which is really really really strong
lapis flax
Why tiran?
crystal set with echo blessing
heady estuary
But I wanna use nox anywa
heady estuary
But nox isnt crystal
stiff hinge
tirannwn lets you get crystal blessing that applies the crystal armour effect to any melee weapon
stiff hinge
i worded that less clearly than i should have; it means you can wear crystal armour and it applies the damage/accuracy to any melee weapon as if it were a crystal weapon
it doesn't give you the whole bonus for free just for having the blessing
but it is a very large bonus and definitely worth using crystal armour over even like, torva, oathplate, inquisitor
heady estuary
Is there stuff with Dihns this league
small flower
yes
fickle pine
he does 600 damage in like 2-3seconds
it also is when the 25%x25%x25%x25%x25% proc'd
stiff hinge
there's a thorns build that scales its damage based on your total defenses
small flower
there's pretty major buffs to thorns/recoil
and scale with total defense bonus
so justi+dinh is a build again
heady estuary
Cox unlocked auto?
stiff hinge
you have to take zeah for it
stiff hinge
you go mory+zeah and then one other, not sure what since i'm not looking at it
small flower
you could do both
heady estuary
Morytania is no brainer
small flower
would be a few points out of the way
for hally distance
but could easily have a tree that you can swap weapons and do that with
stiff hinge
with justy and dinhs and all the rest you can get it to deal 33 damage every time you get ATTACKED, not hit, so you can damage things even while praying the damage
heady estuary
Cant you just fully max melle path
fickle pine
downside is the raid regions have harder combat achievements, meaning that you need a 20 point build as well
if you take more than 1 raid region
small flower
fickle pine
let me show you
lapis flax
These combat perks
they are tied to leagues tasks
not combat achievements
so it depends on your regions what you need to do
heady estuary
https://tools.runescape.wiki/demonic-pacts/?n=1-11-134-135-136-139-140-141-145-1...
Why range?
small flower
melee node can trigger ranged echoes on melee hit
extra damage
wouldn't need to ever pick up a range weapon, it'd just work
fickle pine
these are the tasks in asgarnia that give you points
Asgarnia
Defeat a Troll in Asgarnia (10 Points)
Defeat the Royal Titans solo (80 Points)
Equip a Dragon Defender (80 Points)
Defeat Awakened Whisperer (200 Points)
Equip a Godsword (200 Points)
Equip the Bellator Ring (200 Points)
Defeat Nex Solo (400 Points)
https://secure.runescape.com/m=news/demonic-pacts---overview?oldschool=1#points
this is the article that describes what tasks give you points (total max is 40)
lapis flax
notably that node that gives your melee attacks ranged echos acts as if you have all 3 ranged styles equipped so you benefit from all 3 of the initial ranged nodes
small flower
kandarin for suffering is sorta in the theme of the thorns/recoil, but really anything beyond that is fine
you don't really get anything else from kandarin
so skipping it works too
heady estuary
Yeah boring region
small flower
well, you get clues from thieving there
lapis flax
suffering is great defence bonusses in the ring slot for thorns builds
but yeah there are other options
heady estuary
I dont even know I need to think
small flower
well, non-dinh melee
lapis flax
yea
small flower
they don't care so much
lapis flax
full thorns tank buiuld doesnt need it
but thats not REALLY melee
like its technically melee but its not really the same thing
heady estuary
Both dihn and this crystal build wont include V helmet
small flower
correct
lapis flax
v helmet kinda meh
heady estuary
Wonder what could I do with that
small flower
you'd be in full justiciar ideally
but it'd probably work with torva/fremmy helm
or something
lapis flax
v helmet stats are only as good as the bis for each style in that slot
you do get the dmg mitigation but its only 5%
it does act as a slayer helm but most people taking culling this league p sure
small flower
the V's helm doesn't have battlehat stats
heady estuary
I wanna do 0 slayer
lapis flax
if you arent taking culling or tirn for crystal then v helmet prolly pretty good
small flower
it's basically a slayer helm with extra defenses
if that's why you wanted to take fremm
it's not what it was in gridmaster
heady estuary
I just need to focus on one thing
lapis flax
I wanna do 0 slayer
need 92 for nox hally if you wanted that
lapis flax
it's basically a slayer helm with extra defenses
it does give str bonus in all styles but its only as good as the best opption for those styles as you say its not battlehat so its a little underwhelming
lapis flax
if vs hat was battle hat stats then youd prolly see a lot more fremmy pickers
small flower
good helm for range
small flower
thieving
mint stone
What about clues?
Gnomes, Hero, Paladin, etc
small flower
the hero/gnome/paladin have high clue rate
heady estuary
Maybe it is good then
mint stone
take larce and you are golden for clues
small flower
echo thermy also gonna require slayer level, but the items it drops are mage stuff, so you could probably skip it
lapis flax
2 raid regions is a lot of content so taking kandarin that doesnt have a lot but has some nice stuff for your build is prolly ideal tbh
lapis flax
echo thermy also gonna require slayer level, but the items it drops are mage stu...
needa do at least once for max pact points
small flower
oh, right
well, i guess if you gotta do slay for araxxor anyway it works out
not like you gotta farm it for drop
lapis flax
mmhmm
heady estuary
Tbh none of echo items look exciting
small flower
the melee ones are neat but probably not gamebreaking
heady estuary
Even drygore is back for like 3rd time
small flower
the mage ones are real nice
lapis flax
the best ones are definitely the thermy ones
small flower
and the KBD drop is different, but really really good again
lapis flax
but they only benefit standard mages mainly
toxic vortex
Tbh none of echo items look exciting
What
lapis flax
this leagues definitely placing a lot less emphasis on the echo items and mostly on the pacts tree
but they are very good still
heady estuary
I was more excited for stuff during gridmaster
cerulean flint
hey guys sry if this is a noob question! if i start a new char as a league char, once it ends can i still play that char in regular servers as an iron man account? or is it just gone
small flower
but they only benefit standard mages mainly
actually the second passive on shadowflame does work for ancients, so it's a pretty solid pick even then
and it can autocast anything
lapis flax
hey guys sry if this is a noob question! if i start a new char as a league char,...
you can
toxic vortex
hey guys sry if this is a noob question! if i start a new char as a league char,...
Just gone
cerulean flint
eh LOL
lapis flax
actually the second passive on shadowflame does work for ancients, so it's a pre...
you dont get the 40% bonus hit tho im not saying you cant use it for ancients it just benefits standard spellbook more
small flower
yea but it will still treat an ice barrage as being affected by earth weakness
toxic vortex
It's certainly the fastest
heady estuary
Or just farm elite clues and get it
lapis flax
i mean youll have so many clues if you are taking larcenist
so yeah
youll be able to spam them with watson
no need to do elites
heady estuary
Gnomes give medium clues
toxic vortex
You can get mediums hards and elites from kand
lapis flax
larc gives you 10x loot so when you get a clue you get 10 of them
fickle pine
guards in Civilia also give med clues
heady estuary
Yeah
lapis flax
ye pally gives hard
fickle pine
hueycoatl give hard clues
fickle pine
dragons in the dragon caves
lapis flax
yeah but with larcenist you get 10x looting so 10 hard clues per time you get one from pickpocket
fickle pine
earthen nagua
lapis flax
only need to hit it 10 times for 100 masters
fickle pine
actually all naguas
small flower
sulphur naguas worth it for RC anyway
heady estuary
I also wonder about step themself
small flower
good mix
heady estuary
Oh you dont need items with relic
lapis flax
ye
small flower
yea, skip item reqs
lapis flax
the clue relic is insanely good for completing clues
fickle pine
Oh you dont need items with relic
do you want the Varlamore only clues steps?
lapis flax
but thats all its good for
fickle pine
I made a google doc, as the wiki cannot filter
heady estuary
I probably will focus on clues with Kandarin anyway
lapis flax
people really focusing on the drop rate increase for the clue relic but this is why you take it not the drop rate enhancing
small flower
then yea, larc+kand and just combining a ton of 'em is probably good
pet rates are not boosted at all right?
lapis flax
you should prolly get conniving then or at least reload into it, max reward rolls is huge for that unless bloodhound works differently to how i think it does
small flower
though i guess it's indirectly boosted by having max rewards
heady estuary
What about teleport relic
small flower
alacrity probably?
i would guess that'd get you around to more obscure areas clue steps might be in
lapis flax
alacrity has the most places to tp to usually but
you should look at a map of where you can tp to with the clue relics
and decide with that
small flower
i'm sure someone's done the numbers somewhere, but it ain't me
lapis flax
heady estuary
Well for harder steps I would just use those things you get
lapis flax
this shows you all the spots you can tp to with each relic
small flower
yea
lapis flax
nope
small flower
correct
heady estuary
Kinda ass
lapis flax
get out of here
small flower
gee i wonder if that's a phish or not
zinc olive
i agree it is also legit
small flower
that's OFFICIAL
lapis flax
i deleted it cause dont want people messaging him
🤣
but yeah that bio plus picture combo is funny
small flower
took me a minute to find the report button
can't report accounts apparently, just messages
discord is weird
delicate vale
has the release time been announced for this year?
analog moat
any sage axe builds lol
frail hollow
What time does leagues start on the 15th
small flower
any sage axe builds lol
like maining the thing?
vagrant sedge
What time does leagues start on the 15th
<t:1776078000:t>
molten gust
Start time is usually around 6-8am est. there is official times but I don’t got it off the top of my head.
delicate vale
<t:1776078000:t>
uk time?
molten gust
Thats auto converted
small flower
i keep hearing 11 am UTC
analog moat
@small flower yea lol looked like on the video they were using it as normal range wep
delicate vale
Thats auto converted
oh damn, I didnt even know that was a thing
small flower
https://tools.runescape.wiki/demonic-pacts/?n=1-100-101-11-12-134-135-136-139-140-141-16-162-163-17-18-19-2-22-24-25-32-33-34-38-39-5-71-8-81-82-84-85-86-92-94-95-96-97-99 or something? full torva, dfs, fury... ultor ring?
maybe drop some side nodes and grab the 1h speed/str/hit nodes for a cerb dagger swap
idk
molten gust
Yeah its neat. Uses unix time stamps to set the time for whoever is viewing it. Like for me it says 7am for est
stiff hinge
pet rates are not boosted at all right?
they're not, no
well... i guess technically in a sense they can be, because anything you can do faster or with higher success rate you can get more pet rolls on
but not directly
molten gust
The only ones which are technically not boosted but become more common are raid pets.
Well besides maybe tob one.
stiff hinge
they don't have higher rates than normal but they are easier to get because of how leagues is
molten gust
Cox is rolled when you get purples which are more common. And toa get more common with higher invo. Which allows the chance to be higher.
stiff hinge
you could never get and do masters as fast in main game as you can in leagues for example
vagrant sedge
Any suggestions on zone choice? I'm pretty inexperienced, like very few quests ever done, no real pvm. planning to do water magic+thorns just to see content
stiff hinge
kandarin is mandatory for your pick
past that it's kinda vibes and what content you want to see
small flower
probably wildy or desert for a proper mage shield that helps with thorns
molten sleet
for those who've done raging echoes desert. is Echo KQ a pain? i think that was one of the harder ones if i recall
frail hollow
<t:1776078000:t>
Est?
vagrant sedge
yeah, I was thinking kandarin, maybe asgarnia or tirra, and kourend or desert as final choice. but I really don't have anything to base it on
small flower
for those who've done raging echoes desert. is Echo KQ a pain? i think that was ...
echo kq was easy and fun, but it may not be a 1:1 this league
late oyster
think that time he posted auto adjusts for time zone
frail hollow
There's an announcement haven't seen it lol
Im thinking Koreund asgarnia and morytania
small flower
KTD gets you a nice shield, a pretty good midgame mage set (crystal) until you get virtus(if you do go for it) and pretty good gear all around
stiff hinge
for those who've done raging echoes desert. is Echo KQ a pain? i think that was ...
if the fight isn't changed, echo KQ is very easy if you're at all comfortable with reactive prayer changes, think similar to jad
quasi wharf
Does thorns count as "attacking with a melee weapon" or is it just melee damage?
stiff hinge
thorns is probably not "attacking with a melee weapon"
small flower
oh
stiff hinge
since it doesn't require having a melee weapon equipped
small flower
i see the question
yea it's not gonna be an on melee attack thing
it seperates the 2 with the healing node anyway
so it's definitely not going to count as such
smoky raft
I'm personally curious if it'll count as melee attacks for things like enemies swapping prayers to the most recent attack they took
molten sleet
if the fight isn't changed, echo KQ is very easy if you're at all comfortable wi...
i see.
then i guess i can get that pretty early. shame that the strongest thrown weapon isn't a thrown weapon >:(
frail hollow
Okay it's 6:30 est
stiff hinge
lol, yeah
frail hollow
Waking up at 6 then lol
frail hollow
Like last time
stiff hinge
actually i don't think leagues 5 or grid had that much delay
maybe like half an hour tops
small flower
yea, think i got on for start and it was like 4 hours later that i could log in? XD
frail hollow
Nah leagues 5 had a 3 hr delay
stiff hinge
ah rip
small flower
or was last league not quite that bad
molten gust
Yeah I usually wake up at 10est. Around 3-4 hours from launch. Giving it plenty of time to not have the servers backed up for miles.
small flower
i think i had lunch before i was on tho
delicate vale
what do you guys recon for last region after kandarin, wilderness?
small flower
for mage?
smoky raft
I like to wake up an hour or two before leagues is supposed to launch (6 AM for me, so I wake up at 4-5). I take the whole day off anyway (the rest of the week too, usually) so I can afford to fuck up my schedule a bit. I take a short early morning walk, drink my coffee, and watch chaos unfold in this discord
delicate vale
I was going to do some mage and Cbow
stiff hinge
what do you guys recon for last region after kandarin, wilderness?
along with what else
smoky raft
it's something of a tradition for me
small flower
desert gets you ancients without grimoire and also masori
stiff hinge
kandarin and wildy is two out of three regions
smoky raft
kandarin and wildy is two out of three regions
yeah that would be why they're asking for a third region
small flower
tho grimoire is probably the way to go there if you were thinking air mage
stiff hinge
oh
delicate vale
kandarin and wildy is two out of three regions
yeah bro I am asking what do people think I should pick as 3rd
stiff hinge
i took the wilderness as part of the question
small flower
tirr would be a hybrid armor you could use
smoky raft
ah I see the confusion
stiff hinge
like "what do you reckon for last region after kandarin? wilderness?"
delicate vale
ahh I see
stiff hinge
i think KW is a "pick the zone you want for content" angle
i'm doing the same with zeah
smoky raft
for earth mage w/ thorns I'm goind K/D/W but honestly I don't really need desert
small flower
or just pick a region you wanna do stuff in, like one of the raids
sharp oasis
I’m debating going KTM to basically get to try water mage and some Hally melee with resets, or do you reckon it’d be cooler to just go zeah and rip full air build?
Also feeling fomo about the wildy crossbow/ice combo
delicate vale
I picked tyrannwn and desert a few times in the past leagues so Idk if I want to go them again but they seem to have the best synergy in terms of unlocks
small flower
eh, nuke hits sound fun, but do you wanna be at a 7t attack rate
stiff hinge
but think about all the time you'll have for activities
small flower
XD
stiff hinge
do you have any idea how much shitposting i could get done with 7 ticks between attacks?!
smoky raft
eh, nuke hits sound fun, but do you wanna be at a 7t attack rate
it's gonna be great for (some) bosses and wack for slayer
sharp oasis
I’ve done desert too many times in the past lol
But yeah the nukes are cool and then I can take a nap between attacks
stiff hinge
that's about twice as long as the gcd in ffxiv and when i played that game i was tabbing out during combat to shoot the shit in discord
small flower
though with Kand in the mix you could easily just slap on mage gear and ice barrage for slayer
sharp oasis
The degen in me also knows I’m going to like rolling the odds on 1 or 2 times just hitting a jackpot blind bag echo bs hit
stiff hinge
i wonder if high hp targets are worth hitting up for slayer compared to chinning/barraging
smoky raft
The degen in me also knows I’m going to like rolling the odds on 1 or 2 times ju...
"I have a max hit of 10k and a 1 in 10 million chance of hitting it" type shit
small flower
2shotting cerberus? undoubtedly
sharp oasis
I’m either gonna hit a 5 or a 500 and we’re about to find out
small flower
well, 2 or 3
the echoes are going to be a big part of that crossbow i think
so some rng in there
the "i hate rng" build is just air mage
stiff hinge
i just realized abyssals and nechs are the only enemies in wildy slayer cave without a pretty solid elemental weakness. very nice stuff
sharp oasis
It really is but I also don’t know if it’s going to be a satisfying build to play
Stuff will melt but it’s still pretty normal combat
sharp oasis
I think air build is gonna be cool for people to be able to mow down stuff they normally don’t get to do. That’ll be satisfying
small flower
the more fun ones will definitely be echo or blindbag related yea
randomly 1 shotting something cuz rng
stiff hinge
air mage might have the highest potential actually consistent dps than anything we've seen in leagues before, barring maybe stacked berserker mage hits in L4
sharp oasis
Air build is basically for accessibility and the rest of us are just gambling
small flower
even then you only got the first (or first few cuz travel distance) hits being taht high
this is just.... guaranteed forever
stiff hinge
yeah it was like 2-3 hits
small flower
well, if you hit
stiff hinge
tbf if you're looking at 50dps you're on something with a huge weakness so you're probably gonna hit no matter what
small flower
i'm going on both ends of the spectrum, an air mage and a bb/echo melee XD
no middle ground
sharp oasis
Let em choose how they wanna die lol
stiff hinge
i wonder what mage you need to be able to kill the average wildy slayer mob without wanting a lead lobotomy
everything has 1 mage lmao
small flower
huh... yea pretty much all of 'em
cept revs
and black drags?
wildy mage start should be pretty easy
stiff hinge
basically everything except bosses, green/black dragons, revs and spiritual mages has 1 mage
and a ton of stuff has weaknesses
weary drift
do we have confirmation that things like antler guard wont count for thorns?
lapis flax
I like to wake up an hour or two before leagues is supposed to launch (6 AM for ...
leagues opens at 12am for me, its gonna be a long day 🤣
stiff hinge
do we have confirmation that things like antler guard wont count for thorns?
antler guard is a shield
i think?
weary drift
antler guard is a shield
I know its in the shield slot, but so are defenders and the devils element, do those count?
stiff hinge
now that i look at the stats i would assume it doesn't count, but wiki says it's a shield as opposed to a defender or other "off-hand"
or well no it's a "shield-slot" item...
stiff hinge
probably not then
lapis flax
this is the only thorns confirmations we have i think
devils element is not a shield
antler is a shield (according to wiki)
stiff hinge
i think the answer is no we don't have confirmation
lapis flax
ye
stiff hinge
wiki says it's a shield-slot item
lapis flax
based on wiki entry antler guard is a shield so it SHOULD work
stiff hinge
but so are defenders and those are explicitly excluded
lapis flax
but
stiff hinge
it actually doesn't say it's a "shield" as opposed to a "shield-slot item"
stiff hinge
so i would imagine it, books, and other weird things like amy(off-hand) don't count
lapis flax
i think its safe to assume that only squares rectangles and squares with a triangle on the bottom count
stiff hinge
odium ward wielders in shambles
lapis flax
because we know via confirmation that DE and defenders dont count
stiff hinge
or tbuckler
lapis flax
odium ward wielders in shambles
LOL
okay
maybe theres a few shapes
t buckler is rectangle passing
stiff hinge
"anything with a name explicitly describing it as a category of shield, such as a buckler, ward or bulwark"
stiff hinge
with our good friend the tokz-ket-xil as a special case
lapis flax
ask yourself
stiff hinge
"do i think this is a shield, or do i want this to be a shield?"
if the answer is the latter, it's probably not a shield.
lapis flax
"could i put this item in front of my face and defend against a rock thrown at me"
defenders are by design parrying daggers which though they are used as a shield like item they are in fact daggers not shields
lapis flax
"anything with a name explicitly describing it as a category of shield, such as ...
but also by that logic antler GUARD seems like it fits
stiff hinge
guards can be all kinds of things that aren't shields though
lapis flax
but maybe guard is more synonymous with defender than somethign like ward or buckler
ye
stiff hinge
like armed guards, or shin guards, or fire guards
lapis flax
its werid that some entries state off hand and some that are offhands and not shields like defender say shield slot
like we can all agree that a book is in fact not a shield
but is a breifcase a shield?
🤣
it is rectangular
small flower
obviously
lapis flax
i do think that thinking about it from the perspective of, anything with shield ward or in the specific case of dihns bulwark in the name counts as a shield
well but then theres also buckler
and TECHNICALLY obby shield doesnt have shield in the name
or maybe it does its just a different language
honestly after looking at the list of off hand items, the only one that has contention is the antler guard and the briefcase 🤣
everything else is very obviously either a shield or not a shield
what did jagex mean by this
solemn kiln
Are you guys picking Abundance or Endless Harvest? 
lapis flax
Are you guys picking Abundance or Endless Harvest? <:Hmm:1043294475000225872>
abundance for me for early task rushing, im not in the need of afk time
small flower
barb gathering 😄
solemn kiln
abundance for me for early task rushing, im not in the need of afk time
is it a lot of points?
molten sleet
endless if you want to afk, abundance for rushing to the end but worse for point gathering, barb gathering i think is best for overall points
small flower
EH also for alts
lapis flax
is it a lot of points?
it gives you a permanent +10 boost to all non combat skills, so you can do a lot of tasks like, chop a redwood, or fish a shark barehanded etc quicker
not the best examples but you get the point
tasks that need 90+ levels in to do outside of actual level tasks, can be done with like 30% of the xp
good for rushing to the endgame
molten sleet
also if you're not going for points, means you can stop most skill grinds around 80s instead of 90s
molten sleet
like me. i play for content, not points
i'll get my nice relic 8 and all my raid gear and stuff
but i ahve no desire for the 50m experience tasks
lapis flax
same
molten sleet
so i'm going abundance, cause that also resolves economic concerncs
lapis flax
i might send 200m fletching just cause with abundance and woodsman its super free and 0 time, and helps me get to t8 quicker
molten sleet
get me that tokkul
lapis flax
but outside of that
maybe 50m hunter eventually if i need the points for t8
but once im t8 i dont care so much about points
just cause hunter is 32x at t7
with woodsman
smoky raft
alright fellas
provided I have 80 defence by this point, do yall think I will be able to reliably kill the blue moon with this gear and no offensive pacts
ebon hearth
addy skirt 😭
stiff hinge
what's the gloves?
ebon hearth
regen bracelet
stiff hinge
ah
stiff hinge
alright fellas
provided I have 80 defence by this point, do yall think I will b...
shouldn't you use obby if you're already going for onyxes
small flower
can get onyx before jad if that's the goal
though what kinda tree if no offensives? early thorns?
smoky raft
obsidian mace is actually weaker agaisnt blue moon than rune
stiff hinge
oh right duh the shop is after jad my bad
smoky raft
though what kinda tree if no offensives? early thorns?
early earth mage. I'll have some offensive pacts but none that apply here
small flower
ahhh
you could definitely do amoxliatl
could do that first for either the temotli's or just try for echo first
smoky raft
eh
small flower
probably could do blue fine tho
smoky raft
I'd rather avoid amox for now
smoky raft
yeah I just don't really like the amox fight
small flower
ah
stiff hinge
amoxicillin fight...
granite bluff
Is it a bad idea/really inefficient to pick two regions with raids? I wanted to do tob for the first time, but the kourend echo bow is also cool...
small flower
nah, if you wanna do it do it
chrome sand
I think it's fine, kourend has so much other stuff anyway
small flower
if you're more into doing things than chasing points, go for what you wanna be playing
cursive edge
alright fellas
provided I have 80 defence by this point, do yall think I will b...
Blue moon is free as hell. Blood is a bit more awkward. You’d want sulphur blades
smoky raft
I only plan to fight blue this early
cursive edge
For his spear?
smoky raft
armor
cursive edge
Just get obby if abund tbh
smoky raft
it's my bis all the way until virtus
small flower
blue is solid
smoky raft
I'm looking into getting higher stats quickly
small flower
amox would speed things up considerably, but if you don't wanna, then that's fine
cursive edge
Need some cooking + hunter or fishing too
small flower
rune mace should do
smoky raft
my current plan is to get to T3 for the x12 total combat xp mult
then do Fight Arena, Tai Trio, and Knight Waves
cursive edge
Also I mean, getting glacial temotli would humongously speed up blue moon kills
smoky raft
that'll also give me piety which should help plenty
small flower
1/250 if you go for it before t4 tho
smoky raft
I'm actually something like x5 dry for glacial temotli in the main game lol
tacit oyster
im also probably doing amoxliatl/naguas at t3, unless t4 is lowered to like 2k points
smoky raft
I already have boppers I jsut want em for clog and ca
molten gust
It was the day before leagues, and all across the world.
All the players were stirring, including the mouse.
The monsters were set by the desktop without care.
In hopes that the servers would be there.
The leaguers were nestled all badly in their chairs.
With visions of mega-rares drops in their heads.
(I can’t come up with anymore but did it for lols.)
glass sandal
DPS was calced instead of going to bed
tacit oyster
oh wait i do want t4 before amoxliatl/echo version. probably not getting overheads before transmute
tacit oyster
my current plan would reach 1.8-2k points with hardest combat being fighting a buffalo 
smoky raft
have you considered safespotting the buffalo
tacit oyster
i guess you do start with 25 bronze arrows so could be possible
i just put it further down the list so i have str levels from barbarian gathering
smoky raft
there's a staff shop in auburnvale and a rune shop in tal teklan
I plan to hit up both within the first 15 minutes
tacit oyster
tal teklan is like 5min walk 
smoky raft
bird
quetzals are unlocked immediately
one of the autocompleted quests is the one that unlocks the quetzal network
tacit oyster
wont have money at start either i guess
smoky raft
I've got a plan for that too
tacit oyster
my plan just barely gets 150gp at start to buy things i need for tasks
smoky raft
12 pickpockets, 20 clay, and 44 flax is all I need to start the sapphire value engine
tacit oyster
later going back to thieving which would get enough gp to do 1k gp cost tasks
im skipping crafting training and just completing death on the isle at 34 thieving
silver sundial
do we have an official time for when the league is dropping? dont tell me its gonna be 3-4 am pacific US west time on wednesday
smoky raft
uh
I have some bad news
it's going to be launching at 3:30 pacific
it'll likely get delayed though
tacit oyster
update would be at <t:1776249000:t> (local time), leagues probably starts 1 hour after that + potential delays
no, have to complete it yourself (agility potion)
smoky raft
nope
silver sundial
gotta get up for a tattoo appointment 10 hours later
guess ill just try to get up early
stiff hinge
obsidian mace is actually weaker agaisnt blue moon than rune
very late but i don't think that's true? even with just the berserker neck and regen bracelet, no other gear, it comes out in favour of the obby mace, despite the slower attacks
smoky raft
oh right, berserker neck
but... I don't think that would be a safe option against moons in addy armor lol
stiff hinge
and if you're making one onyx, what's two, amirite
smoky raft
I'm gonna need all the def bonuses I can get
stiff hinge
yeah that's fair
pliant temple
eh is definitely what im planning on taking but abundance is really tempting
+10 boost to all non-combats is way more enticing than i first gave it credit for
but i also really like afking lol
tacit oyster
abundance gold is also very op early
pliant temple
that too
but being able to afk for 30 minutes to play other games or go shower or make food or do anything but play runescape sounds nice
stiff hinge
wait the only way to do TBWT is with an irit for jekyll and hyde, skeletons from desert or mory, or mixology for potion packs
oh wait
actual toads not listed as a source
you need A, K, D or M to do tbwt without relying on a random event or doing mixology lol
brisk mauve
Oh shame, salamanders don't benefit. They should've added like 2 items that buff salamanders or something at the very least, like while you are hunting salamanders you have a chance to get a salamander tail and if you use some wool on it, it turns it into a necklace. When wearing it, every pact point you got increase the Salamanders Accuracy and Damage by 2% And Heal you for .5% of the damage done per pact point.. Then also some other drop that can only drop from Tecu Salamanders that you can turn into a ring that increases Salamander Attack Speed by 2 Ticks. And for every pact point you have applied gives a .5% chance to proc a special effect depending on what style you are using. Like .5% Per Pact point to Proc 2 burn can stack 5 times when using Magic(Can apply to Burn immune creatures) .5% chance per pact point to proc venom with Ranged(Can apply to venom immune creatures.) and .5 to Proc Poison(Whatever the highest poison is. Also applies to Poison Immune Creatures.) when using Melee.
So in the end with 40 pact points assigned. You have a 20% chance to Proc 2 burn up to 5 stacks. 20% chance to proc the strongest poison. And 20% chance to inflict venom. All these effects can proc on immune monsters. Then 2 ticks faster, is 80% more accurate and deals 80% more damage. And heals you for 20% of the damage dealt.
Basically you would just farm minor pacts in the tree's, while ignoring most of the majors if not all of them. Then the playstyle is just attempting to proc posion, venom and burn, then focus on whatever style it's weakest against. The njust make sure the 25% damage increase when attacking with a different style works with them. Then Salamanders could've been effective. Probably not as crazy as other builds, and would require taking up a few gear slots where other things could go, but it'd work.
crude flower
Must I got Desert or get grimoire for ancients. can I just grind out 99 mage and use mage cape for ancients?
brisk mauve
Yeah. You need either Desert or Grimiore
You dont need to use mage cape, I dont think
crude flower
I don't want Desert or Grimoire
brisk mauve
Well then dont use ancients lol
crude flower
DTII is autocompleted so i figued DT1 being complete means i can switch with cape
brisk mauve
Taking desert completes Desert Treasure so you can cast ancients. Grimiore effectively does the same thing
crude flower
DTII complete without DTI
holy moly
brisk mauve
Yeah DT2 is completed but not DT1
crude flower
this changes everything....
brisk mauve
It'd be nice if just get 99 magic let you cast from any spell book. But that'd defeat the purpose of selecting area's exclusively for using magic, and effectively make grimiore half way pointless.
I could be wrong though.
crude flower
desert yucky
brisk mauve
You may want to check. But I feel like last league you had to take grimiore or desert
To use ancients
crude flower
last league I took grimoire, this one I was thinking i might, but idk... culling spree beckons me
brisk mauve
So yeah I think you need do need desert or grimiore
I think it auto completes DT2, but doesn't complete DT unless you pick desert or grimiore
static notch
Thinking of doing a water mage + thorns melee setup, not decided on regions other than K
https://tools.runescape.wiki/demonic-pacts/?n=1-10-100-101-11-112-113-114-122-139-140-141-142-145-146-163-44-45-46-55-56-58-59-60-68-7-71-72-74-79-8-82-85-86-87-92-93-94-96-99
deft plover
Are there more channels than news and general for leagues 6? Or just those 2?
tacit oyster
there is also leagues 6 discord server which has a lot more topics and more active. That one also has jmod information section for clarifications on relics/pacts/echo weapons. Can find link in #affiliate-communities
pseudo mantle
Is there any interruptable actions we could use to get access to a gorak's full drop table? I have a friend with a meme build idea.
deft plover
there is also leagues 6 discord server which has a lot more topics and more acti...
Legend, ty
blissful fiber
dunno if im doing this right ngl
stiff hinge
don't do that it makes mustard gas
shadow badger
Endless barb
unkempt terrace
I'd recommend doing Zeah 2nd or 3rd. Kandarin would be a great first option
blissful fiber
im not taking elf region so i do think i need barb
and endless is just for convenience
unkempt terrace
What build are you going for?
stiff hinge
you don't need barb
stiff hinge
i mean if you're going for 50m all or something maybe
shadow badger
I would just pick barb and flow state
stiff hinge
right
blissful fiber
so i dont really know what ill do
stiff hinge
basically expect that by the time you get to t7, the only reason you will have to do skilling is for its own sake, like to knock out 99s for points, or go for post-99 tasks
credit where it's due, EH+BG+hotfoot would be a fantastic combination for getting 50m or 200m in a bunch of skills
but if that's your plan i would imagine you would already know that
verbal gyro
dunno if im doing this right ngl
Personally i would flip the order of the regions you chose
stiff hinge
eh+bg+hf is extremely fast, what, mining, fishing, wc, cooking, smelting, and the best you can get for agility
...when i put it that way it's actually pretty shit lol
"only" 6 skills for 3 relics
inner zenith
why do people think EH is so good
theyre afk skills
why have them more afk it confuses me
stiff hinge
click game walk away for half hour
inner zenith
like u do normally? cool
stiff hinge
they're afk (runescape) which is to say not actually afk at all
inner zenith
idk i dont get it
inner zenith
for eh?
its the 3 most afk skills
im not hating, it just confuses me how over-rated it is
shadow badger
How are you afk mining