leagues-general

[placid flower]

Man, so excited for this league.

[tranquil pond]

right, but the wiki is fanmade, the blog is official

[dull imp]

Dunno what’s right

Blogs been wrong a lot as well

Maybe have husky clarify

[tranquil pond]

i hope it's 10

because it being arbitrarily shorter is gonna make it feel bad

[tacit oyster]

first 666 steps should be on yama's stepping stones

[lapis flax]

i might do kand instead of tirn first, a few extra pact points for gauntlet and i can do fight arena to kick start melee training, rune mace start 🤣

[tranquil pond]

kand is such a solid first region

[dull imp]

Yeah, and you can clue grind to be able to take soul shards

[lapis flax]

ill think about it more in the next couple days

[dull imp]

What relics were u taking again?

[tranquil pond]

i never even considered that unlocking more regions would make clues take longer, i might sit on just kand for as long as possible

[dull imp]

I had conniving for a while til I watched scritics video on why you don’t need it

[cursive edge]

Made a starting route that does 103 tasks, 1350 points, almost 0 skill levels required

[dull imp]

Yuuuup. Last leagues masters only at Poro poro was peak l

This league masters more annoying but easys gunna be greenlogged

[tranquil pond]

abundance? interesting, i've not seen many talking about it

[cursive edge]

how many tasks are needed for karamja?

[lapis flax]

well i was gonna reload for grimoire but then i decided on kandarin so ill get peity anyway and i dont really need to reload for anythign else

[dull imp]

It’s the zoom zoom route

[tranquil pond]

ah, gotcha

[lapis flax]

mainly for the giga early task clears from plus 10 boost

[tranquil pond]

for people rushing

makes sense

[dull imp]

I think you need soul for blood alter 50m rc and you can sell the bloods back for money

[tacit oyster]

no guaranteed info but images showed 80 tasks, could be placeholder number though

[dull imp]

But that’s just my opinion

[lapis flax]

also makes my money making passive, i could go cut gems but ye

[cursive edge]

oh, easy

[dull imp]

If you hate clues, then conniving is the way

[lapis flax]

my runecrafting might be level 1 after the leagues over

🤣

[dull imp]

I just wanna pickpocket so many that I can just drop shit steps

[tacit oyster]

not guaranteed to be like this but it was in blog

[dull imp]

Getting it to 99 is like 3k points if every other skill is above 90

[lapis flax]

i mean true blood altar is honestly not the worst option

if idc about 50m i dont really need soul harvest

[tranquil pond]

you talking so much about larcenist is really what sold me on it
i hadn't realized how flexible something like thieving really is, since i kinda hate it in the base game

[smoky raft]

I'm gonna set that as my goal for tomorrow. Getting a step-by-step up to Karamja & at least T2

[dull imp]

You stack up shards over a long time, then go to the alter once and spam left click

[lapis flax]

600 points for t2 is 150p earlier than in my route

🤣

[dull imp]

Yeah and with Prif it solves crafting and smithing. You can get it pretty early and green log easys in varlamore

[tranquil pond]

yeah, it definitely seems to get a lot better with prif

but even without, it beats out natures accord for me

i'm a little worried about farming with neither transmute or natures accord, but there's nothing i'd want to give up for it

i'm hoping that having access to the farming guild in zeah is enough

[lapis flax]

im assuming we cant claim ds2 xp in this league when we pick kand

[tranquil pond]

i doubt it, that'd make early kand WAY too good

[lapis flax]

like the special training xp you get after the quest

300k xp 4 times at t3

🤣

you would wait till t5 at least tho

but yeah i doubt theyll let us claim it

[unique cedar]

Theres still a secret thing in the rules page on the news post, what could they possibly still have in store

[dull imp]

So my basic route is varlamore (sit here as long as possible and pray we don’t have to unlock karamja) hunter 99, fletching 99, mage 99, prayer 99, fire making 99,Other skills probably base 70. Moons, amox, echo amox, hueyhuey, do herb, tree, grass runs. Green log easys.-> karamja - get full obby and fire cape, whatever easy pact points and tasks -> kandarin - finish clues. Slayer my ass off, (slayer might be done in varlamore will have to see) when I get whip, awakened vardorvis -> cg with powered staff 1t, morytania cuz at this point why not. Raid raid raid.

[smoky raft]

only about 40 hours left

[toxic vortex]

faux is currently putting together a starting route

[dull imp]

Faux isn’t doing sit in varlamore for a week

He needs content

[tranquil pond]

why wait so long to unlock karamja and kandarin if you're doing clues after kandarin

[toxic vortex]

I mean hes doing all of the varlamore tasks first it seems

[dull imp]

Easy clues and slayer minimizing

[lapis flax]

thats all he has access to right now

[toxic vortex]

obv not a week

[tranquil pond]

ah, i didn't consider slayer

[dull imp]

I have to test how early slayer will look

[tacit oyster]

oh they added more global tasks to wiki after i started making my plan

[dull imp]

If slayer sucks I’ll open up faster, if it’s chill and I can do 200 boss amox kills then it’s ez xp

[tacit oyster]

i need to add so many tasks between steps now

[dull imp]

But I won’t start combats til 5x drop rate

[toxic vortex]

too bad we cant get cg as a boss task

[tranquil pond]

i was mostly banking on culling spree to make slayer good

[dull imp]

Culling would make echo hunny with prayer pen 1 tick staff so free

[dull imp]

Yeah I can get to culling off skilling in varlamore

[tranquil pond]

how far do you have to go in just varlamore to get all the way to culling?

50m?

[dull imp]

Nah

[toxic vortex]

i'd be okay if it didnt work on echo

[dull imp]

99s for my easy ones listed above and then 50m hunter

When I get x16 I’ll go back for 200m hunter cuz rumors is my favorite gameplay loop

When rumors came out I went from 40 hunter to 93 in like a week

Can’t stand normal non rumor hunter, but the am I gunna get the drop into loot sack gamba bags just clicks

[tacit oyster]

I sure hope dragonic visage has boosted drop rate in all regions... i dont really want to kill 10k dragons

[dull imp]

It does

[smoky raft]

you still might have to kill 10k dragons though

[toxic vortex]

yeah its still a shitty drop rate

[tacit oyster]

well im probably only getting like 85% points after looking at all those tasks

and havent even seen region locked tasks

[dull imp]

Slayer in varlamore probably pretty chill. Naguas, custodias,zygomites(which you can block)

[shy saddle]

So never played a league, so is all progress and items deleted along with toon after league ends, and the entire point of this for the store items to buy at end?

[dull imp]

And naguas are good rc and combat xp

[dull imp]

The point is fun/cosmetics yes

Do shit you’ve never done before with crazy builds

[shy saddle]

@dull imp not against it just curious

[toxic vortex]

Yeah thats basically the gist

[dull imp]

Ya

[toxic vortex]

if you aren't an ironman in the main game, you can sell the cosmetics

[shy saddle]

Cool looking forward to it haha,

[toxic vortex]

At least some of them are usually pretty popular

[dull imp]

This league is turbo fun cuz of the new combat system so tons of theorycrafting like Poe/last epoch

[shy saddle]

I play both rs3 and osrs but getting bored on rs3 so figured I'd farm the s... Outta the league

[dull imp]

Rs3 might be interesting when they remove dailyscape

[toxic vortex]

its okay bro you can say shit here

[dull imp]

My wife said she’d play rs3 but not osrs so I’ll do it at some point

[lost herald]

i have 5000 hours in poe so this is the average league

[shy saddle]

We're getting a league on rs3 in fall this year too

[dull imp]

Thankfully no long ass campaign to do beforehand

[toxic vortex]

yall already had one

[shy saddle]

Yup getting a second one,

[toxic vortex]

rs3 leagues doesn't interest me that much

[shy saddle]

I love both games they both have things going for them there's no mmos out there I like more, hell I don't even really play other games besides project zomboid

[outer aurora]

Is Falo F or K

[toxic vortex]

K

[outer aurora]

God damn it

[tacit oyster]

better get your clue relic to auto complete falo steps

I'll remove the 100 Elite and 100 Master scroll tasks as part of this problematic task pass.

I thought I was reducing it from 150 to 100 from last league but instead I've increased it from 75 to 100. Must've got lost in the task spreadsheet craziness. So not really reduced from last league but at least it's not worse.

so clue tasks got increased by accident

[toxic vortex]

"not really reduced"

bruh

did husky forget how math works?

[potent quail]

75 is reasonable though without the relic?

How long does 75 masters take

[tacit oyster]

75 elites yes, 75 master not really without zeah

[potent quail]

Why zeah?

[tacit oyster]

can make masters from 1 of each clue

watson op

[toxic vortex]

huh

didnt know that

[zealous whale]

Does the oathplate slayer helm reward cost 1k slayer point also? Or just need the cosmetic?

[tacit oyster]

1k slayer points + the cosmetic item

[zealous whale]

Damn ok, thanks

[copper gorge]

Master contracts still suck to do.

Contracts ffs clues

Happy monday everyone

I will do clues for exactly 1 zammy item for minion and thats it.

Everything else i can get in kandarin.

Not doing leagues to do clues. Eff that noise.

[dull imp]

thats why thieving drop clues with larceny gunna be super op in kandarin

shit step = drop and move on

[copper gorge]

Just get stacks on stacks and call it a day.

Still not doing 75 caskets in each category. How sweaty do they want us to be

[tacit oyster]

i do think masters should be 35 or 50 caskets for people who dont have clue relic or zeah

[potent quail]

Ah yeah thats great

[potent quail]

Someone had the plan to only stay on varla and karamja and do all his clue tasks

Couldnt find a list of tasks that are only in these regions though

But maybe thats a dope list

No sherlock or farlo clues

[small flower]

would fishing or w/e give enough consistent higher tier clues for that?

i remember it giving a ton with the clue relic last league, but not without it

[potent quail]

Unless you are a speedrunner getting the clues isnt the problem

[small flower]

though in general staying in varlamore for as long as possible for some of these may indeed be ideal

[potent quail]

Except master

The problem is if there is 1 really hard or impossible master/wlite task in varla it may not be worth it

[small flower]

well as long as there's a couple easily do'able ones you could just keep dropping the bad ones and eventually get 'em done XD

[dull imp]

They removed 75 elites and 75 masters

[potent quail]

Wait really

I thought they lowered from 100 to 75

Mhhh a hidden game mechanic

Or something new league specific?

Oh nvm there is a silk merchant in civitias?

[tacit oyster]

yeah the one in civitas doesnt buy from chat box selection so that is why it got disabled

[dull imp]

How I read huskys comment was make it go bye bye

Lemme read again

[potent quail]

Gull context

These task stay

[tacit oyster]

oh so they either added dialog or just make it count when selling to shop

[potent quail]

Or zhere is something else

Something new and hidden

[delicate ivy]

Alright I think i figured out my final relics -> endless harvest, woodsman, evil eye, transmute, larcenest, culling, friendly forage, minion.

With wanting to do just bossing after unlocking all the in game rewards those relics make the most sense for supplies.

Any tips on pacts list or changes?

Thinking a water healing build with a few nodes in the melee branches and the bow/thrown branch.

[potent quail]

Wait everyone can get full virtus?

[lost herald]

yeah

vardorvis

[tacit oyster]

yeah better grind vardovis

[lost herald]

"looks at evil eye"

[potent quail]

Oh boy

[dull imp]

Looks like there gunna be elite master count but in a higher point their than easy/medium

[potent quail]

Alos we only need 50 mil in 3 skills lol

I thought it would be every skill

[potent quail]

They released all general tasks

[tacit oyster]

oh extra task for 3 different 50m. each 50m has separate task too

[toxic vortex]

so rc thief, maybe crafting or smithing for me

[small flower]

ye, each individual skill has its own as well

but a bonus one for 3 tradeskills to 50m is nice, fletching/hunter/?? should go pretty fast early

[toxic vortex]

thief will probably be my 200m task

[wary egret]

Why can’t we get region tasks

Just let us cook

[potent quail]

Like yeah i thought t was mandazory to get crafting smithing to 50 mil

But if i can find 3 other skills i can get to 50 i could take something else then T

[toxic vortex]

because they wait until day of

[small flower]

varl tasks are enough to get going early, seems good enough to me

[wary egret]

I’m neglecting work for theory crafting my theory crafting

Oh nice I’m steel now

[potent quail]

Looks like individuell is only 25 mil each

[small flower]

wiki wrong? i see 50m in each as tasks

200 points

[potent quail]

Also these 2 are fun lol

Seems like slayer relic is mandatory

[small flower]

hm

[toxic vortex]

ooof 300 sire is a global??

[small flower]

300 sire shouldn't be too bad idk

though it will push more people into it making getting an unused one a ilttle more tedious probably

[potent quail]

I see 25 mil each lol

I do like the change though

[small flower]

oh

it's 25, 35, and 50

[tacit oyster]

i see 50m each

[formal wasp]

Anyone have the tree setup for nox hally build?

[small flower]

all are 20 0eac

200*

ok pushing points will be very possible in some skills

[potent quail]

Ah yeah just saw

[toxic vortex]

yeah, combats are all ezpz

slayer is ez with superiors and boss tasks

[small flower]

600 points for 20 minutes of fletching? yes please

[toxic vortex]

endless solves all the gathering skills

endless in to woodsman solves fm

woodsman will make hunter stupid fast

fletching with woodsman as well

i plan on taking soul harvest, so prayer and rc aren't an issue

[small flower]

prayer gets a lotta methods ye

[potent quail]

Catch 200 Implings in Puro-Puro
Oh boy

[copper gorge]

Still on the wiki

[potent quail]

I thunk they will remove the 100 ones and keep the 75?

[tacit oyster]

wiki is slower to update

[copper gorge]

Idk but i still dont wanna do 75 elite clues in 56 days

[small flower]

XD

[tacit oyster]

you dont have to but it is pretty easy from all bosses

[copper gorge]

Nevermind master.

[small flower]

yea, not like it's actually required

just people pushing to point max

if you wanna pointmax there's probably other, way worse grinds than 100 masters

[copper gorge]

Oh i wont be believe me 🤣

[lost herald]

hey conniving clues makes them very easy

[copper gorge]

Do 100 master clues on mobile and talk to me

[dull imp]

I thought it was only easy/medium general?

[small flower]

i'm never installing any game on my phone tyvm

[copper gorge]

Only way i scape

[copper gorge]

They did all globals. Easy and med varlamores

[dull imp]

Oh clues on mobile only, f that

[dull imp]

Ahh ok

[copper gorge]

And then the pact ones from each region obvs

[dull imp]

Damn I don’t need much 50ms then

[copper gorge]

15 minute puzzles. Hardest of passes. Lol

[small flower]

curious which region mixes will lock people out of the combat achieve ones

[dull imp]

So my ez 50ms hunter, fletching, fire making. Fin

[tacit oyster]

probably wilderness + fremmenik + kandarin

[dull imp]

200m fletching or hunter

[dull imp]

Wildy has a ton of bosses though

[tacit oyster]

0 speed tasks and not that many combat tasks

[copper gorge]

200m rc and prayer honestly might be easiest with soul harvest

[small flower]

they're all kinda low/mid tier bosses though

[dull imp]

200m prayer is excluded on the task from both skilling and combat….

[small flower]

get wreck'd

XD

[copper gorge]

Even easier to do rc!

[dull imp]

Does it count as noncombat?

[small flower]

wait no it doesn't

[dull imp]

Since it’s excluded from the combat list?

[small flower]

the non-combats doesn't list prayer as an exclusion

Obtain 50 million experience in 3 different skills excluding Attack, Strength, Defence, Magic, Ranged & Hitpoints.

[dull imp]

Yea

I’m wondering how prayer slots in or if it’s oversight

[tacit oyster]

probably just mistake since 100m has player in combat

wait 200m doesnt say prayer either so maybe 100m is the mistake

[small flower]

100 is the only one that does

there's the lower ones too that don't have prayer on that list

odd

25, 35, 50, and 200 skip prayer

[potent quail]

Ok read trough most of them

Zhere is a metric ton of points just cooking each fish 100 times lol

[gloomy coral]

Been trying to cook something for the past few days. Iunno is smoke wizard with the dogger or mudmage with lithic scepter builds will be too great

[small flower]

yea, that's pretty normal, tons of "catch/cut/mine x" for 30 points

[potent quail]

These seem notable to me

Ranger boots alone may take forever to get from clues

And equipping 3 echo items forced you to do 3/4 of your echo bosses even if they have high slayer req

[small flower]

earth mage with anything sounds pretty fun, especially in group settings with big bosses, shadowflame with the defense reductions would make things go wildly quick

[wary egret]

Will 1t thammarons rush be viable or is it bait because of the max hit reduction and will be a 1t pea shooter?

[tacit oyster]

should be highest dps in wilderness

[potent quail]

Over echo crossbow?

[dull imp]

God group would be earth mage with executioners 3 air mages and 1 ranger

[gloomy coral]

Lmfao

[tacit oyster]

yeah thammaron has huge buff in wilderness as it is wilderness weapon

[dull imp]

Maybe cut a praiyer mage for a Bluetooth hally blind bag

[gloomy coral]

I wanna do something neato with earth I just need something to pair it with when I am solo

[dull imp]

Thorns

[wary egret]

Even with a max hit of like 6?

[small flower]

I think it's more likely to really start showing its weight with like midgame gear and 90+ magic

i thought about it early game but that does just sounds rough

sure you can rush a 1t warped scepter early

but it'd hit like 5's

[tacit oyster]

did you apply the "in the wilderness" setting?

[potent quail]

Thats still great for 1 tick

And gets better with each lvl up

[brittle hull]

have we confirmed the "craft 2500 essence into runes" is done with soul harvest relic?

[small flower]

great yea, i guess it's just coming down to sure it's conventionally great but there's all the other things that are equally greater

[wary egret]

Just mental math. (12-8)*1.5

[tacit oyster]

in wiki dps calc the flat reduction is done at end

[small flower]

it's probably worth going for them early-ish, and transferring to powerstaff when you start getting some damage gear and higher levels, with like 20+ pact points

so that you've got the water/fire/air regen bonuses gonig for it too, so that 1t isn't just like 8 max, but also giving you the utility

[wary egret]

Just feels like a waste of a respec since my end game is obviously elemental with shadowflame

But I guess we do get 3

[small flower]

ah, i suppose it also depends if you ever intend on using them for something too yea

[wary egret]

1t healing does sound hilarious

[small flower]

if going Tirr, a respec into powerstaves would make the CG grind way easier

[potent quail]

Like heal 1 health and prayer every tick

Is really great qol

[small flower]

ye, make that 1.5 if you get the regen nodes

[wary egret]

I’m also just terrified I commit to tham and get rng rekt and just never get it

[small flower]

or 2.5? i dont know if that was clarified

[potent quail]

[dull imp]

Can do with transmute air runes backwards as well

[small flower]

if the nodes make you *always * regen1, then does +100% give you 2? does the 150% give 2-3?

[old tapir]

duude, all the inferno monsters are weak to water too
that along with yama really takes the roughness out of radiant oathplate and the special 6 jad challenge

[potent quail]

They become noted

[small flower]

or is it 1 all the way through to 100%

[potent quail]

6 jad still kill you if you dont have the prayer flick skill

[dull imp]

Yeah you use map to go cosmic alter quickly

Just using transmute to get the 2500 base ess you need

[potent quail]

Ah yeah

But people with eye have problems

[old tapir]

not wrong, but having 190 max health allows for alot of mistakes

[dull imp]

Is evil chicken a boss?

[wary egret]

It might be okay if you just camp 1. 50% chance to avoid lol

[small flower]

I feel like map is kind of the stand-out winner unless you're in wildy

[dull imp]

Map is stand out in wildy as well

[small flower]

bank is pretty close because of the deposit boxes

[dull imp]

Crazy slayer

[potent quail]

Interesting i heard the opposite

Eye is best

And map only for rc solve

[brittle hull]

wait will we not have access to the entire queztal system?

i see a task for building a site

[dull imp]

You’ll have to build a few sites

[potent quail]

The normal one yes but you still need to build the extra sites

[old tapir]

i've also heard map is only good if you A, don't take harvest and/or B, pick wildy

[potent quail]

Very wasy to make

[dull imp]

I’m just assuming map will have some crazy tech with it that eye doesn’t have

[wary egret]

I feel like map has more than that. Slayer QOL, wildy QOL, revs, basically bank tele

[dull imp]

Though eye flask cg resets might be fun

[potent quail]

I am not taking wildy

[old tapir]

really would have loved assassin's insight over banker's briefcase

i think alot of people would have taken that

[small flower]

eh, that sounds like a lot of hassle, i'm probably going minion on my tirr/wildy guy

[potent quail]

I am so torn between flask and minion

I dont have a healing solve with my build and flask would do that

[small flower]

i mean healing doesn't really need a solve in that sense

[dull imp]

I’m going flask, I was gunna go minion, but I want maximum pact points and flask will let me cheese/skip more mechanics

I’ve never done inferno or colo so flask will carry me there

[small flower]

unless you're really looking to just punch things in the face without even remotely caring about mechanics

[barren dew]

The only way to get zenyte jewelry is to choose Kandarin, right?

[potent quail]

Will think og that everytime i need to bank to get more fish

[small flower]

yes

[potent quail]

Aka git gud

[dull imp]

My healing solve is sanguine staff with water rune gen for constant overheal and 3t whip also healing

[tacit oyster]

yes but doom will drop confliction gauntlets and araxxor will drop rancour

[potent quail]

Kandarin is so goated lol

[old tapir]

1 health every tick isn't actually that much healing

i guess sang passive heals too

[dull imp]

And no fremmy jewelry to devalue it this season

[old tapir]

but doesn't overheal

[potent quail]

My healing solve is the presumably highest max hit in the entire game and dodging mechanics

[limpid lava]

The upgrades to zenytes do drop fully built tho

[small flower]

sang wont overheal, but that 1-2/tick will

[weary drift]

Does the dps calc actually calculate the fang of the hound correctly?

[dull imp]

Yeah sang gets me up to full and then while at full on correct pray I’ll get some overheal

[potent quail]

Depends how much damage you take

But for notmal slayer stuff/grinds more then enough sustain

[old tapir]

i just wanna heal for like 60-70 every 3 ticks

let me afk everything

[potent quail]

It may not whats the problem?

[dull imp]

Yeah that’s water for sure

[potent quail]

Less damage though

Maximum afk on the other hand

[old tapir]

apparently dps is like 22-23 on most things

good enough

[dull imp]

I wanna tribrid crystal though at least to start so powered and whip gunna be my main early healing

[weary drift]

Noticing that ancestral is much weaker and piety is giving like 5 dps more than augury? Wouldn’t it be better to go more mage with it or am I tripping

[dull imp]

Crystal sang is 37 dps for me

[small flower]

most of your damage is coming from melee

the trigger is passively only 5%

it's 100% on spec

so if you're spec spamming you're getting more out of it

otherwise you're better off scaling melee

[potent quail]

Can you give me 2 screenshots witj direct comparrisons?
Can link it to the dps calc team

[small flower]

if you wanna build for the fire aspect, go into the spec regen (and probably go desert for lightbearer? idk)

[potent quail]

Also what perma said

[weary drift]

Oh, so that build is more using 1T mage to get spec with the relic then run in spam spec then back to mage?

[small flower]

yea

[tranquil pond]

Dont need healing if you dont take damage

[small flower]

it's more melee support for a mage than it is magic support for melee

[weary drift]

Yeah that’s weird

[small flower]

but it IS still quite nice on its own as just a tank melee weapon

2tick melee is always fantastic

add in the tank/thorns healing options

and you're just kinda slappin things

[old tapir]

too fly for the fashion police

[weary drift]

It is but I feel that build just doesn’t have too many options for before that wep

[old tapir]

virtus with ice barrage might be cool also

more damage

[potent quail]

Executioner meta?

[small flower]

i do wish my plan was more fashionable on the neck slot, stoles are weird

[potent quail]

Doesnt that dagger have crazy high dps

Just with the 9 skillpoints in the dagger mastery?

[old tapir]

ardy cloak does go really well with virtus

the purple monster

[small flower]

yea, it's a great weapon in general, it's just trying to build around the passive trigger is awkward

[potent quail]

Does crystal armor even have prayer bonus?

[small flower]

yes

that's 45 pray bonus

[potent quail]

How much?

Woah

[small flower]

uhh, like 3 or 4 per piece? plus 5 on blessing

[potent quail]

Mhhh tempting

And its for mage and melle right?

[small flower]

sorry, 7 for set total, puls the 5 on blessing

power staves and melee

but it's not bad for autocasting

[potent quail]

Ah ok unudable for my build then

[dull imp]

Nah just do hmt and everyone wins

[small flower]

the negative mage gets offset with the blessing

so it's similar to virtus with a lil more prayer

[potent quail]

Need 50 prayer bonus

Am using the blessing but no armor

[small flower]

eh, don't need it, 90%'s good enough imo

lol

[old tapir]

gotta take a dps loss for holy symbol i'm afraid

stoles are too uncouth

[potent quail]

It is not lmao

My build requires i always max hit

[small flower]

XD

[potent quail]

I have the switch node

[small flower]

ahhh

crossbow/air?

[potent quail]

Yeah

[small flower]

sounds fun

[potent quail]

Someone helped me with the missinh link

Always max hit all the time

And infinite prayer

Have a build for 13,21,30 and 40 points

No healing though

[small flower]

i dont think i can push 50 prayer with that setup

[dull imp]

I need to make a list of all the prayer mages going mory so I can get carried through hmt

[potent quail]

You really need sunfire armor

Or clue items

[versed heart]

has anyone put together a map with evil eyes teleports?

[small flower]

yea, and powerstaff is actually my healing

so i dont wanna drop the crystal

so 90% will do for me

[potent quail]

Its just very funny that i use crystal blessing

Just for the prayer bonus

[small flower]

heh

[potent quail]

T is just such a nice crafting smithing solve for me

Basicly a must take

[old tapir]

one on the wiki page

[small flower]

it really is

[buoyant notch]

Anyone know dps difference full torva versus full crystal and blessing? Deciding between A and T

For melee builds

[small flower]

the defense mostly, crystal is more damage

[wary egret]

What’s the best way to get 100% regen after this? Is it the branches to the right of range?

[versed heart]

ty ty

[small flower]

like 5%ish? scaling in favor of torva for dogger probably?

[potent quail]

I have basicly every skill solved

Farming will be slow but thats fine

Except herblore that will suck

[small flower]

i mean farming is always "solved" by just regularly doing tree runs

as lnog as your regions have the plots

[wary egret]

What are your regions?

[potent quail]

Many people like to take all 4 of the range nodes that gige general Support

So
Max accu chance
Regen and offhand strength bonus

[potent quail]

KTZ

Fought for a while with zeah

[small flower]

yea down into range part and on the right side too

[potent quail]

But cox rewards are so nice

[small flower]

can easily get you past 120

[lost herald]

the small nodes between the starting 3 are all 5% regen

[potent quail]

Also if you dont use valuable runes 80 is very fun for the beginning

Its only really important if you need wraths

[small flower]

^

[potent quail]

Or your damage is heavily linked to it

Looks at ranging echo

[small flower]

ye

[lost herald]

https://tools.runescape.wiki/demonic-pacts/?n=1-44-46-56-60-62-92-93 early water regen if you want

[small flower]

though the more you get the better healing

and for fire it's nice for damage

but air doesn't really need anything over 80

nor earth

well, air does later on

but not early

[potent quail]

Also can skip the earth regen rune gives defence

Unless you go into earth mastery not worth it i would say

[small flower]

i think it is later on

if you're going earth anyway you probably have some of the +defense nodes anyway

so the regen one will just have you at max def at all times

like 160+ depending on how much you went into it

[potent quail]

I really dont see it
You only get 1 ot 2 defence max

For 2 skillpoints invested

As it doesnt stack

[small flower]

should be a sizable boost, on top of getting the node that heals you for being hit 0's

oh for powerstaves

[potent quail]

Like does the earth regen node buff stack with itself?

[wary egret]

Yeah it’s only 3 points to get 110% if going down the crossbow tree so maybe drop 2 for earth regen and put them there

[small flower]

i thought it did, the mage level one is also worded like that isn't it?

[lost herald]

the regen bonus goes up to 20% of your base defense lvl

[small flower]

yea

[potent quail]

I do not know i assumed it didnt

[small flower]

it should stack up to the max value described

[potent quail]

Mhh

[small flower]

and then start resetting duration

[potent quail]

So 20 more def?

Still seems bad to me

But dont know the math here

[lost herald]

all triggers reset the duration

[potent quail]

On how good def lvls are

[small flower]

well, yea

fair point

i guess it depends on how multiplicative it is

200+ def is probably pretty substantial

[potent quail]

I think def lvls are super trash unless you take the earth mastery

Or are thorns

[small flower]

well, yea i wouldn't rely on it if you aren't actually going for earth+tank

but if you do i think it'd be really nice

since you'd want the full +60 def on tree for the earth damage boost anyway

so 159*1.2, throw in augury 25% boost

[potent quail]

Also worth considering if the fire rune one is worth it

It only adds 1/2 which may be a lot? Not sure here worth checking in the dps calc early

[small flower]

i mean it's per tick

for 2 points? sure

[potent quail]

255 is cap either way

[small flower]

yea, but getting to that point at all times with no degrade?

sounds fantastic

[potent quail]

Eh i dont know

Just dont get hit

[small flower]

XD

[potent quail]

#defhater

[small flower]

well, i feel ilke earth healing option is basically the tank heal on getting hit for 0 anyway

so it all kinda fits in

[potent quail]

Amzing woth the reflect node though

[potent quail]

Does that work with protection prayers?

[small flower]

idk

[potent quail]

Would be crazy good if it does?

[small flower]

not sure if that was asked/answered by husky or not, didn't see it on the faq list

[potent quail]

[small flower]

probably yea

if it counted you'd just about not care about even switching in full tank thorn setup?

just pray mage

wear full dumb tank gear

and poke things

sit in the middle of colosseum and camp mage pray? lol

[potent quail]

Afk colo would be fun

Like earth tank or water tank may be able to afk basicly every boss

Maybe even inferno? Besides jad and final boss

[small flower]

idk

face tanking zuk might be a tough call with a jad behind you even for water

[potent quail]

There will be some fun videos

Yeah

6 jad challange for sure is deatj

Unless 200 def and tank armor makes him miss a lot

[small flower]

probably not, jads got really hig hstats

[potent quail]

So do we all depends on the math here

[small flower]

XD

wiki clocks challenge jad at 1020 range 510 mage 750 attack

[potent quail]

Holly

Nvm then

[weary drift]

Torn between the tier 5 relics. Currently planning on taking WAZ going crossbow ice build, with zeah tithe farm should be okay exp and soul altar might be good enough? Is there any good thieving I missed?

[small flower]

i bet you could pray mage and do most of it in melee tank setup

but not as a mage

well idk

maybe try the reverse

[potent quail]

[small flower]

pray range and try to outheal it all with water surge XD

[potent quail]

Geckos league planner

In short besides the relic no true solve

[small flower]

well, yea, outside kandarin or relic you're basically just gonna do varl houses or something

[potent quail]

Ah shit i just realized i lost my agility solve because i am zeah over mory

[small flower]

just run termite course 200 times

[weary drift]

Wouldn’t taking wildy for rouges be good too without relic?

[potent quail]

Just 200? That seems crazy low

For 50 mil?

[small flower]

oh

yea ok a lot more for that

idk #'s

[potent quail]

I run thermite 800 times for 200 mil if thats on the table

[small flower]

probably would be fine, without relic i'm assuming you'd have to set up the mobs there to not attack you (assuming that the relic counts those as "guards" in that sense, otherwise i guess everyone has to

alternatively, the gem/ore stall in tzhaar wouldn't be terrible

[austere depot]

BG redwoods time :)

[potent quail]

But like

It will be a active grind

Between 10-15 hours probably either way

Without the relic

[small flower]

BG ftw there for me lol

[weary drift]

That is a money solve in a way, idk how good transmute is for gp

[small flower]

it should be great

[potent quail]

I cant really play active the firdt few days of the league

So plan was eh

[small flower]

rune ores are 2k alchs by itself* nvm

[potent quail]

But that may be it sadly

[tacit oyster]

sepulchre would be 1.6m agility xp/h and that is best rate you would get

[potent quail]

Yeah rune ore is crazy money

Transmute is a money solve

[small flower]

still good yea

other better sources depending on regions anyway

[austere depot]

Ah yeah fait enough, I also thought about EHing at work but redwoods and fishing should be AFK enough imo

[potent quail]

Sepulchre is the agi exp solve 100%

Also great to learn sepulchre for main game

[potent quail]

The league planner says sepulchre is better then hotfood

[tacit oyster]

wyrm course in varlamore is 650-700k xp/h

[potent quail]

Wrong picture

[small flower]

you forgot to do new image XD is ok i ahv site up too

[potent quail]

Wyrm course isnt listed

[small flower]

it doesn't even list BG redwoods 🙁

scam

[tacit oyster]

sepulchre should be like 8-9 on that, best is clearly running sepulchre with hotfoot passive

[austere depot]

The free XP from the boots is a bait imo, and the other effect requires a good course like Ardy

[potent quail]

Puts bg at a 3

[small flower]

o

[weary drift]

Hotfoot is just good for zeah since zeah solves fire making and fletching is easy with totems, the hunter would be the only thing I could think of unless totems are that bad for exp

[austere depot]

Ranking things like this never really works because it depends on so much

[shy cipher]

"whenever you regenerate charges from a powered staff of wand, also regenerate 1 water rune"

are there any wands that can regenerate/use charges? weird wording bc i can't find any on the wiki.

[small flower]

there are 4 pacts that specifically say they regen runes while using power staves

[tacit oyster]

i guess ayak could be seen as powered wand since it is short

[small flower]

so you can get 1 rune per use, that is further multiplied by regen chanec though

[potent quail]

Need to get 500 mil in total in wc fishing or mining

To get 50 mil agility

[austere depot]

I'll also have Flow State for example, so redwoods will be 1M agi/h

[weary drift]

The regenerate pacts do it with % chance

[small flower]

dats what karambwans are for!

[lost herald]

there are no powered "wands" just small staves

[potent quail]

You want to farm 400 mil exp at karambwans?

Thats long

But afk

[austere depot]

And I'd consider that better than Sepulchre even if it's like 60% of the agi exp/h

[potent quail]

[small flower]

i mean i'd be getting 50 in wc/mining anyway

so that's -100

[shy cipher]

am i misunderstanding what this node does then? why would it mention "or wand" in reference to regenerating charges specifically when there are no wands that use charges?

[potent quail]

Oh right flow state

I do need the reload though

[potent quail]

Do you ahve a herblore solve?

[lost herald]

just bad wording

[toxic vortex]

Yeah I agree

Because you have ayak and the lithic staff as 1h "wand"

[small flower]

my herblore solve is honestly probably zulrah, lol

[potent quail]

Eah thats why i said 400 mil

[austere depot]

I'll probably have Forager and farm relic and Butler

[small flower]

oh, i missed that 500 was the initial derp

fair

[potent quail]

Lmao i have none of them

[toxic vortex]

Me either

Lmao

[potent quail]

Could farm heron pet at karambwans though

[lost herald]

larcenist gaming

[potent quail]

Wait do we keep pets?

[austere depot]

I was actively trying to pick fewer Herblore solves lmao

[potent quail]

[small flower]

unless i convince myself that grimoire is a stupid reload exclusively because of piety, i'll probably have none of them

[wary egret]

Is that true? Sounds like you need to regen a charge to proc

[toxic vortex]

Yeah I plan on larcenist to transmute snape grass seeds

[potent quail]

It is a stupid reload

[small flower]

all power staves rely on charges

[austere depot]

But the butler is for smithing really because my BG approach won't leave me with much ore

[toxic vortex]

It's extremely stupid to reload to grim just for piety

Like, it's a boost sure but it's not that much of one

[small flower]

shhh, but my super minor damage bonus!

[wary egret]

Right but you need to regen the charge to get the rune, not on use

[potent quail]

How hard are the pet tasks?

[toxic vortex]

You are giving up potentially multiple skill solves for a small buff in damage

[toxic vortex]

I think it's usually just 1 pet task

[potent quail]

I rather solve a unsolved skill

If you dont need a solve then take the other one

[small flower]

oh, for my earlier thing, yea you're right there, so 1.5 avg at max assuming full regen nodes

[potent quail]

1 skill and 1 boss pet this time

[lost herald]

it depends how the wording is supposed to be, something like "regenerate charges from a powered staff or regenerate when using a wand regenerates x rune" would make it work

[toxic vortex]

Oh?

[copper gorge]

You keep pets year over year

[toxic vortex]

Damn

[toxic vortex]

Yes but they don't count for the task

Only new ones

[small flower]

realistically i'm good on everything else though, or at least good "enough"

[austere depot]

The Forager might get traded for Woodsman but firemaking relic in Kourend is kinda lol and I don't need much buff to black chins and Flow State is also 1t redwood shields

[potent quail]

Icsn i take the pet to my normal progresdion account?

[shy cipher]

my build idea with this was to use a powered staff with all 4 of these nodes and all four of the regen nodes but they say "combat spells" and i dont think powered staves count as powered staves

[small flower]

BG-Wood-Alacrity-Transmute-Larcenist-Cull-Reload-Flask : Tirr-Mory-Asgarnia

[copper gorge]

Leagues only

[lost herald]

no the are on your league character

[potent quail]

Well more then enoigh time to decide i would argue

[small flower]

indeed

[potent quail]

But flowdtste is a great node

Its just reload solves unsolved skills

[small flower]

i think i'd sooner pick up soul reaper than herblore if it came to that

[wary egret]

There’s 4 additional nodes that say get 1 rune whenever you regen a staff charge

[potent quail]

Same

But maybe thats a trap

[small flower]

but i'm fine with the blood altar shortcut

so i'm not really missing anything

[toxic vortex]

Im reloading to reaper

[potent quail]

And prayer you could afk at the mine

[austere depot]

I was gonna reload into Soul Harvest yeah, it's still tempting honestly

[dusk wharf]

Do we get access to fairy rings straight off the bat?

[toxic vortex]

Yes

[potent quail]

Whats reaper again?

[small flower]

yea, i'm not worried about prayer at all

[wary egret]

I’m so happy I got grotesque pet last league and not taking mory this league. Well worth it

[toxic vortex]

Sorry, soul harvest

[small flower]

soul reaper, the runecraft/prayer xp when farming/getting bone drops

oh

harvest

[potent quail]

Yeah many people do

[lost herald]

endless harvest into calcified rocks is all the prayer i need

[small flower]

ye, w/e

[austere depot]

I'm not going for point cap though so runecraft will stay at 99 and I'll take Map for Zeah runecraft

[small flower]

map works well there too yea

[potent quail]

I think its 17 hours for 50 mil prsyer with that

[shy cipher]

yeah and i wanted to see if you could get the benefit from "Whenever your combat spells regenerate x runes, ~~~" but i dont think staves count as "combat spells"

[small flower]

i love how this site puts al combats at 5/10 XD

[lost herald]

what multiplier

[small flower]

like they're a problem to train

[potent quail]

Idk that was the numbr someone gave me

[lost herald]

that has to be wrong

[wary egret]

I personally think doubling down on multiple pray solves is perfectly fine. It’s such a staple skill with multiple tasks including a pact for it

[potent quail]

Should be slower?

[lost herald]

faster

[shy cipher]

as in i was hoping to do this: https://tools.runescape.wiki/demonic-pacts/?n=1-133-166-167-44-45-46-47-48-53-54-55-59-68-69

[potent quail]

I doubt that

[small flower]

there's 2 good methods in varlamore alone for prayer

it's not a huge concern

[wary egret]

Yeah with powered staves seems like at most you can get 2 per cast, but usually 1. The trade off for them being 1 tick I suppose

Otherwise it’d be too busted

[potent quail]

Transmute id also a prayer solve

[small flower]

yep

[lost herald]

at T3 its 12x xp

[small flower]

transmute is a ridiculous prayer solve lol

[potent quail]

I think you vastly overestimate notmal prayer gain at the mines

[austere depot]

For prayer I'm counting on good dragon bone drops in Wildy + the Chaos altar of course

[wary egret]

I still can’t decide if transmute for the power spike or butler is a better t4 to take first

[small flower]

transmute+asgarnia especially, gonna be getting so many ashes while going for dogger -_-

[wary egret]

Transmute is also awesome for extended super antifire for kbd without fremmy

[tacit oyster]

main game you get 3k bone shards per hour at 99, 5.5k tick manipulating. so would be 550k or 1.1m xp/h with endless harvest

[toxic vortex]

Ugh EE or map

[small flower]

didn't even think about that, but yea

[lost herald]

you would only need 833,300 shards

[small flower]

that's huge

[potent quail]

Tick manipulating with eh?

[toxic vortex]

Gigasweat

[potent quail]

So 46 hours?

[tacit oyster]

you have to move to the flowing water anyway for the normal rate

[wary egret]

Do you have sustain? Sustain is the reason I’m going map instead of EE. I likely won’t even need to leave the boss

[small flower]

it's too bad the only shop with ashes in it is currently on fire and not available

[lost herald]

at 12x its 6k xp per 100 shards, multiplied by 5

[toxic vortex]

Definitely not taking sustain

[small flower]

woulda been funny to have purely buyable 200m prayer

[lost herald]

so 8,333 actions to 50mil

[wary egret]

I mean just burst somewhere with minion picking up all the bones

Should be easy

[small flower]

true

i didn't eve ncheck if minion banks stuff or notes it or just fills your inv

[wary egret]

Oh good point

Hopefully bank or note

[lost herald]

you would also need 2084 wines

[potent quail]

I dont think so

This reads to me as you can fully afk

[austere depot]

Multiplied by 5?

[lost herald]

i meant each shard gives 5 xp,

[wary egret]

Noted

[small flower]

oh, that's wonderful then

[dim crystal]

"The minion will try to automatically loot items from creatures you kill (including fired ranged ammo). A minimum value threshold and whether or not these should be noted is configurable on the whistle." for minion description. I'm more inclined to imagine that means you can have it pick up noted things or not-noted specifcally, not that it's noting it

[small flower]

and yea that makes transmute+minion really nice

[tacit oyster]

yes you can fully afk in main game too, you just get increased success rate if you are mining vein with flowing water

[potent quail]

Wines are free

[austere depot]

That's included in the 6k right

[lost herald]

yeah

[small flower]

1 gp isn't free, that's a massive drain, idk if that's affordable at all

[lost herald]

so in total you need 833,300 shards and 2084 wines for 50mil

[potent quail]

Can buy infinite wined on the varlamore island

Did that on my ironman when i started

Was my food for like 3 months, great time

[toxic vortex]

You'd have to spend 2 whole ticks getting that gp

How is that possible

[small flower]

yea, idk if i can manage taht

[dim crystal]

how much better are getting shards vs just making a g altar and doing it that way? Aren't certain bones only slightly better normally

[near summit]

does this mean at first echo kill reset availible if skipped reset after echo kill, then no more reset availible untill next echo kill or can we "redeem" first reset even after 3rd echo already have been slain and can still reset 2 more after? https://gyazo.com/030dde571b9d645d27637bd5cc3fd25d

[potent quail]

And 2084 splinters

But we can assume these are also free

[lost herald]

no

thats not fire wines

thats normal ass blessed

[austere depot]

That feels like a lot of shards even with all the Leagues mining boosts

[potent quail]

EVen without shards, bowl in varla is better then gilded altar

[toxic vortex]

I'm pretty sure it's just respec 'points' that are earned

And you use them when you want

[lost herald]

if you use fire wines its way faster

[potent quail]

Shards are free
Just do wave 1 in colo

[dim crystal]

yeah guess it's also a lot better if you can just do superiors with this so less time breaking it down

I mean the bone shards not sunfire

[lost herald]

time to calc fire wines...

[potent quail]

That lowerd the amount of bonedhards needed
Very worth doing with how trivial splinter gain will be

[near summit]

ok nice ty

[potent quail]

E looking at eh at the boneshard mine til 50 mil prayer

[tacit oyster]

it is like 10-20% better to make blessed bone shards with normal wine or 25-35% with sunfire wine depending on bone, compared to gilded altar with 2 herbs burning

[austere depot]

Yeah splinters will be basically free compared to 833k shards

[dim crystal]

I just more meant the time investment of bone sharding it vs g altar

[lost herald]

you would need about 120,000 less bone shards for 50mil using fire wines

[potent quail]

Also wave 1 colo can be done in rune gear in the normal game

So 610.000

[lost herald]

and only about 1736 wines

[potent quail]

Still a lot
But better

[small flower]

actually calc rocks does make sense for mining if i have smithing solved through larceny anyway

[lost herald]

hotfoot auto solves it

[austere depot]

Like even 700k shards seems like it'll be way slower than this

[potent quail]

And you need 500 mil exp anyways in mining/fishing

[small flower]

true!

lol

[potent quail]

[small flower]

that's when i'll pop over to the alt and move him to an oak tree

when i get to calc rocks

[potent quail]

What does hotfood solve?

[small flower]

think he meant smithing?

i'm going BG-Wood not EH-Hot tho

[lost herald]

smithing and cooking

you smith darts later on too for fletch

[austere depot]

Like you'd need >7k shards per hour to get that many in <100 hours and that's really pushing it

[potent quail]

I do not have a cooking solve

But everyone told me that its trivial either way

Even without s relic

Is that cope?

[small flower]

transmute sardines into dark crab

[austere depot]

You'll have transmute?

[small flower]

done

[potent quail]

Probably

[austere depot]

iirc you can 1t cook Karambwans

[small flower]

ye just flyfish or something for a bit and turn it all into anglers or something

and cook those

[tacit oyster]

can also transmute into karambwans

[small flower]

that, is very active

but i guess it's an option

[lost herald]

you cant fail cooking with hotfoot either

[potent quail]

Could also sit at karambwand till i hit 400 mil fishing exp

[austere depot]

Alternatively Flow State is 2t cooking

[potent quail]

I dont want to take hotfood

Thats why all the mental math on agility and cooking solves

[small flower]

what regions again?

[lost herald]

K/Z/D for me

[potent quail]

Ktz

[small flower]

so barb fish for a while

[potent quail]

Tempted to drop z for mory though

Need to check why i was taking z again

[small flower]

it's not gonna get you to 50m reasonably, but it'd be easier to 99, and make the courses easier

[potent quail]

I dont think you can barb fish without the training

[small flower]

K?

[potent quail]

Oh right

[small flower]

can you not do training in K/

[potent quail]

[lost herald]

you dont even need it tbh

[potent quail]

Well guess i will need to run roofd

[lost herald]

trawler for angler and just afk lobster or something

[small flower]

?

[potent quail]

For agility

[small flower]

talkinga bout agility

[lost herald]

oh

[small flower]

tho i def forgot about trawler lol

[potent quail]

Only leaved herblore

I think i will just bite the bad apple

And take either the herb relic or the farming relic

[austere depot]

Aw, there's a leaping fish spot in Zeah, but no barb training

[lost herald]

slayer is probably good enough no?

[potent quail]

Yeah

[potent quail]

Numbers game
How many herbs do you really need

Upside

Mastering mixology
For goating potions

[small flower]

i took the herb one on n alt last league, it was really fast for the levels

but it was very prompltly completely useless

[potent quail]

Also need to degrime per hand
Degrime service is in desert

[small flower]

which i guess is the point

[lost herald]

i would only really need prayers or restores

everthing else can just be turned into junk

[potent quail]

I dont need either just the exp

And i guess super combats

[lost herald]

you could just do stams for xp technically

[potent quail]

Back to hotfood

Is hotfood a herblore solve

[lost herald]

maybe

[austere depot]

Are you trying to cook herbs

[dull imp]

now that we dont have to 50m herb, foragers is a meme

[tacit oyster]

hotfoot can help you make more stamina potions i guess

[small flower]

that's actually not bad

[lost herald]

alchemist signets give you access to fungi without needing mori

[tacit oyster]

there is 50m herblore task though

[dull imp]

really? i thought the only skilling 50m were any 3

[potent quail]

I dont think hotfood multiplies the agi tokens

[dull imp]

shit did they update them again

[potent quail]

Also i was informed you need mort myre fungus

[small flower]

it increases the chance for marks

[lost herald]

it does autocomplete and give 10k tho

[potent quail]

Doesnt matter for herblore

[dull imp]

oh

50m all is still a thing

nvm

[tacit oyster]

i see 50m all and then extra for 3x non combat 50m

[dull imp]

yea

[potent quail]

Yeah i also got baited

[dull imp]

ima 50m all

[small flower]

be wildy and kill vetion once

XD

yea idk

[dull imp]

herb shouldnt be too bad with mixology

[potent quail]

I do have zulrah

[small flower]

it's still a decent amount of it

zulrah is good for... ranging pots?

[potent quail]

I think

[small flower]

I think that's my herb fix honestly

[tacit oyster]

easy to get resources for mixology just painful to do it for that long

[dull imp]

can make a ton of super combats

[potent quail]

Yeah zulrah is T

[tacit oyster]

mixology in main is like 80-90k xp/h at best

[potent quail]

Metric ton of aldarin for goading potions though

[dull imp]

ranging pots can be made in varlamore - custodia stalker drop alch key

[austere depot]

... I don't wanna 50m rc even with Zeah rc ngl, but 3x50m on the other hand is way too easy

[small flower]

zulrah+cerb gets me what i need in decent amounts

[potent quail]

Which is sweet af for slayer

[small flower]

that's probably not bad for me then

[dull imp]

so mixology at the end is like 1.6m an hour

[potent quail]

Need 50 mil in every skill

That other node is just a small bonus

[dull imp]

not the worst

[potent quail]

Uff
Thats like 30 hours

Thats a no from me bro

[austere depot]

That's really annoying if there's nothing between 3x50m and 23x50m

[blissful fiber]

im having second thoughts if i really want to grab kourend and desert ngl

but i would have to change my relics...

[dull imp]

i mean youll still have normal potions to spam as well

[potent quail]

I think herblore is the one skill that really teally needs the relic for the 50 mil solve

[small flower]

i'm absolutely not going for max points XD but it's nice to figure out which ones are reasonable to go for

[dull imp]

making pots for pvm youll passively get a good chunk done

[small flower]

eh, depends on how much of the materials you otherwise get normally I think

[toxic vortex]

Two raid regions is less than ideal in terms of tasks

[small flower]

butler could also give you both xp and materials XD

but not a lot

[austere depot]

Gonna have to rethink a few things if every 50m over 3 is pointless if not going all 23

[blissful fiber]

yeah i know...
its just that kourend has a ton of good stuff and desert im honestly only grabbing it for tempoross and giants foundry

this is what i have in mind rn

[toxic vortex]

I don't think desert is worth it just for those two things

You already have hotfoot. And you have BG for better mining success at higher tiers

Regular bar smithing is very high xp/hr

[blissful fiber]

i guess swap desert for kandarin? i heard a lot of things about it

i didnt research the other regions much ngl

[toxic vortex]

Which feeds in to other things like fletching supplies and such

[blissful fiber]

ive been locking these 3 since the start

im not doing morytania cause i just dislike the place and im not taking wilderness cause i dont want my blood boiling over people pvping when its useless

[small flower]

XD, absolutely gonna have to deal with people ragging for no reason yea

not super thrilled with that, but it was pretty chill last league, so i have hopes

[blissful fiber]

you just know theres gonna be people thinking its funny to waste peoples time

in wilderness

[austere depot]

Part of the reason I wanted to take Evil Eye to get back quick lol

[toxic vortex]

Depends on what your build looks like for combat. Kand is very mage focused

[small flower]

curious where we respawn, is there a natural spawn point in varlamore? haven't moved my spawn in ages

[toxic vortex]

I'd be surprised if it wasn't in yamas domain thing

[blissful fiber]

my original plan was going to be thorn/light/fire

to go with cerberus dagger

[toxic vortex]

Then Kand would probably be good for you

[small flower]

that'd be kinda nice, put you right next to league tutor in case you dont keep the tele item

[small flower]

not sure kand would help too much with that tbh, the thermy offhand wont be able to use thorns

but suffering would definitely help there?

so i guess it would give you some swap options that would be good

actually yea that makes sense, kand would be good

[toxic vortex]

No but the thermy offhand should pair well with the dogger itself

[blissful fiber]

+30% fire weakness on everything

[austere depot]

It will definitely be tempting to click someone and send them from 188hp to shadow realm in one shot but I will resist the temptation

[blissful fiber]

doe, i never did thermy so im hella worried for echo >_>

cerberus too in fact

yeah uh...

i didnt do much pvm

[toxic vortex]

Well, I'd imagine that the fights are at least somewhat similar to last year

So you could go find some videos on them from last league

[blissful fiber]

thats gonna be my first league so im a bit nervous

still debating over barbarian and endless

[old tapir]

i wonder how barb assault works with the quadent

[blissful fiber]

barbarian just look super juicy cause 1: im not taking elf region and 2: 50% success rate on fails help

[old tapir]

if you're an attacker

[small flower]

cerb was pretty hard last league, i think people said thermy wasn't as much hard as it was time consuming (i didn't do kand)

[old tapir]

because you need to attack with a specific element, but the quadent says whatever you're casting counts as that element

that they're weak to

[blissful fiber]

might have to swap out natures accord or soul harvest if im going kandarin doe

i heard larcenist is devious here

wait, if i dont take desert, im really gonna need soul harvest

since no runecraft

[small flower]

it's good for money, and clue scrolls, i dont think there's anything "extra" there though?

unless i'm spacing on something important

[toxic vortex]

Are you taking map or evil eye?

[small flower]

yea i'd keep soul harvest there

[toxic vortex]

It's the clues mainly, with larcenist at least.

[small flower]

he said evil eye

[toxic vortex]

Can pickpocket medium hard and elite clues in Kand only

[small flower]

though if you went alacrity in zeah that helps with RC a lot

orrr, is there a shortcut near wrath altar too? lol
: guess not

[toxic vortex]

And with the xp tasks this time around, thief is the easy option for that

[small flower]

true

will definitely help with all those, and if you're grabbing conniving clues anyway that's a really good mix

[copper gorge]

Echo cerb wasnt hard

[small flower]

in the grand scheme of things, putting the echo bosses on a scale

none of them were "hard"
some just took a bit more to learn

[blissful fiber]

i might swap to map actually

since i got hotfoot for agility

[toxic vortex]

Doesn't seem to be, but also you need 95 RC for wrath anyway

[small flower]

ye

[toxic vortex]

Wait

There is an agility shortcut in the basement

Still have to run a little bit

[tight bolt]

Hey guys. Is there a channel to check out league builds?

[small flower]

probably on the leagues discord

tho i haven't actually looked

[tight bolt]

Ahh gotcha. Ill go check it out

[small flower]

oh

[toxic vortex]

The exit on the bottom left is for the wrath altar

[small flower]

taht's good to know for zeah people

"Dossier drop rate issue from Grid Master is fixed. "

XD

and yea that's pretty big for kand rc

is even tempting to go alacrity with KTW

hm

[lone bloom]

leagues 6 tasks are out bois

[dull imp]

Not all of em

[lone bloom]

most of the varlamore and general tasks

[inner zenith]

where do u get early birdsnares

[lone bloom]

yanille or g.e.

[small flower]

bury 6 bones, pick 6 flax, pick 6 wheat, potatoes, cabbage, fire 6 arrows, eat food that restores at least 6 hp, i think i see a theme here

the general store will have bird snares and box traps

+1 more person to stand in a group of 200 around the 6 crimson swift spawns on day 1

😄

more chaos!

[inner zenith]

its the new lesser demon task

[small flower]

lol

[blissful fiber]

so apparently, motherlode mine is broken in league cause of the 3 golden nugget cap?

[tacit oyster]

The 6x lvl1 birds spawns in varlamore have also also been buffed to the game engine's limit for league start

If servers crash blame birds

[lone bloom]

bugged how? like theres 1000 bird spawns?