#leagues-general

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languid mauve
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trying to rush blowpipe is a good starter weapon to help u with other stuff, but if ur new, no real wrong choices

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plenty of youtube videos and people here willing to help, just take it with a grain of salt and choose your own path

lapis flax
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i didnt have much experience with high level pvm until raging echos (last league) and gridmaster. you get so op that its not a problem, you can very easily complete the content youve never done before with all the buffs and perks

golden token
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Mostly melee, pacts is alot of info for my smol brain so ill probably follow condor because theres just so much

languid mauve
dusk wharf
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I only did TOA in entry mode so GL to me 😄

languid mauve
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just take it at you're own pace, plenty of people in here will start dropping dps calc numbers and have complication conversations on mechanics but you don't need you worry about that just enjoy it 😄

lapis flax
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^

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gloomy coral
lapis flax
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unique smelt
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Big agree. Asgarnia alone is like 100+ hours of bossing.

lapis flax
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you also dont really have any good first region picks with mory/asg/zeah. those regions arent know for their easy tasks

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tir is pretty decent as a first region

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unique smelt
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Tir is pretty decent as a first region*

*With Larcenist or Woodsman

lapis flax
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especially if you are good at gauntlet but even if you dont have much experience with it its not that bad

lapis flax
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good thign to specify

languid mauve
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i think Tir will be overwhelming for new players as a first region

unique smelt
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Keegz is right though, unless you've got insane hours to play you'll have a much better time with a smaller" region like Kand or Tir to start out

lapis flax
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lapis flax
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so you get a lot of easier tasks completed sooner to unlock more regions

unique smelt
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It depends what you want to do in the league; learn bossing, get OP, get a dragon cup or a max cape

lapis flax
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but if you start asg or zeah or mory then theres so much stuff you have to do and not a lott of overlapping points (comparitively)

unique smelt
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@golden token What would you say is your goal?

languid mauve
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you also want to make sure your starter regions can help you get 7-10 points, as that's roughly the amount you need for pact points to get a nice big surge in damage/attack speed

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lapis flax
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what narth said, im personally takign tir as my first region, and planning on these 11 tasks before doing echo bosses or anything

Defeat a Hill Giant
Complete the Leagues Tutorial
Open the Leagues Menu
Reach Combat Level 50
Use the Protect from Melee Prayer
1 Hueycoatl Kill
Defeat a Steel Dragon on Karamja
Defeat a TzHaar
Equip a Fire Cape
Kill a Black Dragon in Tirannwn
Defeat Zalcano

languid mauve
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i actually based my region choice order in terms of what i could actually do rapidly to get to 10 points for water heal

lapis flax
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seem like pretty easy tasks anyone can do and 11 points is more than enough for any style to take out some echo bosses

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tho only 2 of them are tir

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most regions have 2 fairly easy tasks

unique smelt
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Is there a reason for Tir over Kand?

lapis flax
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crystal blessing with crystal armour for melee buoild

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BUT

unique smelt
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Ah, perfectly fair

lapis flax
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my current third region is fremm i have been considering kand or asg instead of that

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since i dont relally need anything from fremm

unique smelt
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My only problem is I'd LOVE to take Tir and wildy for the echo items

But I just got my voidwaker on the iron and am stuck at CG

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So I'd put a cactus up my ass before I take either

lapis flax
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LOL

languid mauve
lapis flax
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well, cg is quick with the buffs and 5x drop rate

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also you can farm echo cg which if its the same as raging echos, then you dont need to prep

languid mauve
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yeah someone said earlier max drop rate is only tier 4

lapis flax
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so very quick

languid mauve
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which is crazy

cloud panther
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hum

unique smelt
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As part of a trio who is the designated ranger, Tir doesn't really help me though right?

lapis flax
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yeah not the best

languid mauve
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unless you're going Fae bow build

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then what 2 tick fae bow ?

unique smelt
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Recurve heads to 2 ticks and I think it beats out crystal in most situations with black dhide

languid mauve
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with crystal armor?

lapis flax
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yeah bofa in this league seems a little troll

unique smelt
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2 seconds

lapis flax
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ddepoending on your other regions

silent hamlet
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Does anyone know with Flow state and farming, if that is applying to growth rates happening at two ticks, or just harvesting?

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unique smelt
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Yeah, looks like Nature's Recurve is about 1.5% worse than Bowfa with full crystal, but you get the healing and prayer stuff too

lapis flax
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thing about kandarin over fremm is that kandarin also doesnt really have anythign for my build, although if i reload into infinite food instead of grimoire it does give me piety which is nice

unique smelt
lapis flax
unique smelt
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Do you have inferno cape in main @lapis flax

silent hamlet
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Thanks.

lapis flax
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LOL

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too poor for good gear and too bad at the game with bad gear

unique smelt
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Then don't discount grabbing the stuff from Thermy for a free inferno

lapis flax
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ive only done inferno in leagues and griddy

lapis flax
unique smelt
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Fair fair!

lapis flax
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but

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they definitely could help

unique smelt
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Using one of your respecs to go full mage for all your one time achievements like Infernal isn't a horrible option

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I'm planning on an early 9 point 1h melee build for moons and Vardorvis, then heading to mage for a bit before finishing range

lapis flax
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im not planning on doing it until like 33 pact points anyway (if i take kand) so ill be super strong for it at that point

unique smelt
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Did you finish the grid?

lapis flax
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yes

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awakened whisper beat my ass

unique smelt
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Then you'll be fine, f the rest

lapis flax
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that was the hardest tile by far for me

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lmao

unique smelt
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Not levi?

lapis flax
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levi i did in like 3 tries

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but that was also tough

unique smelt
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Ah nice

lapis flax
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i just got lucky

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with last stand

unique smelt
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Really wish we had gotten a better loot boost this leagues

lapis flax
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but whisperer is harder to brute force

unique smelt
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Everything except mage is wayyyy weaker

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We're gonna spend a lot more time farming bosses and doing slayer

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Also Mage is insultingly strong, 9 point mage dip is doing comparable damage to 33 points in range or melee

lapis flax
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i made a concept for a sunlight hunter 3 tick reach around build that alternates between air spells and the crossbow every 3 ticks to max hit every time gaining 25% dmg on every hit

https://dps.osrs.wiki?id=TimeLeagueTrails

the problem is it requires a 7 way switch for range and 6 way switch into mage 🤣

DPS Calculator - OSRS Wiki

See how your gear stacks up against Old School RuneScape's monsters using the OSRS Wiki's damage-per-second calculator.

unique smelt
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Fuck that, absolutely not

lapis flax
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but the air spell side of it being at 50 dps is crazy

unique smelt
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I like my hands like they are thank you

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*with only Minor RSI

lapis flax
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especially since that 50 dps is without the style swap bonus

unique smelt
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But you go champ

lapis flax
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so like the builds probably just better if you forget about the range tree and just do air

lapis flax
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i was jsut theory crafting

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im pretty set on bluetooth nally blindbag even though its quite weak dps wise

copper gorge
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Chins gunna be strong as an early game

lapis flax
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i think it will be lots of fun, and my goal is to get the most echo/blindbag triggers in 1 attack as i can

copper gorge
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But mage will easily clear

lapis flax
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i wanna 1 shot (1 attack) some tanky boss if possible 🤣

copper gorge
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Ill give my full strat tomorrow after final t8 relic comes out.

lapis flax
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true

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if t8 relic is infinite potions i might take that over minion

unique smelt
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7 points give infinite chins

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Very very good for smashing out an early 99 range

lapis flax
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minion is better for people who are good at the game obviously but infinite pots and food in grid master made everything so free

twin ermine
unique smelt
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Esp if you have Kand

lapis flax
dusk wharf
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I know demonic pacts is the name of the leagues but when it says Healing with Demonic Pacts overheals you, what does that mean?

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Like healing through the perks?

lapis flax
dusk wharf
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Ok thank you

twin ermine
unkempt hollow
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Ancients aren't unlocked by default, correct? DT2 is auto, but from what I can see, Ancients is only from Desert or Grimoire

lapis flax
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the main problem with having so much defense (bulwark justicar) is your echo boots and suffering wont trigger very often

lapis flax
lapis flax
mint stone
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Planning to go for mage build before 1st reset. Kandarin, Tirannwn, Desert.
Would you guys advise taking Wilderness / Asgarnia instead of Desert, for more PvM fun?

I am not sure if I want to take an entire region like desert just for a raid I enjoy and tas bout it, not much pvm in desert.

Asgarnia and Wildy seem a lot of fun. Maybe a raid isn't so important during leagues specially cuz of the fun echos?

golden token
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What do we think the next 3 reveals will be??
Obvi 1 more relic but what could the other 2 be?

toxic vortex
mint stone
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Asgarnia has nex and 4 gwd bosses, which is cool

languid mauve
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I cant believe you made me read that

mint stone
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Wilderness obviously looks realy interesting

toxic vortex
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But are you wanting to reach a certain rank?

mint stone
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so not really aiming for anything, probably rune-dragon will be achieved passively

toxic vortex
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What was your character name

languid mauve
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Go for #1 ranked

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200m all

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First to max

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All points

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Im exhausted laying down thinking about how much effort that is

dusk wharf
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Is it worth building into prayer penetration if you're focusing one style

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With high enough accuracy you wouldnt need a switch right?

languid mauve
small flower
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i't's been a while since i was able to stay awake 20 hours a day doing dumb stuff

languid mauve
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Im going water only mage with high acc and about 50-75% prayer pen

dusk wharf
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Ok

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I got 90% prayer pen with 150% accuracy for a ranged build

languid mauve
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Yeah u wont have any problems

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@desert tide yes it does count

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You can go full Kbd range crossbow build and spec into water mage and get full effects of water with the “ice spells are water” pact

dusk wharf
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I was building around the drygore BP

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will be nice for chinning slayer tasks too

small flower
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the burn does seem neat both from that and fire

sleek finch
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Does Blindbag work with light weapon attacks as the primary weapon? Assuming we pickup the pact:

"For each unique heavy melee weapon (>=1kg) in your inventory, your chance of a blindbag trigger is increased by 2% up to a mximum of 10%"

small flower
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would love some more details on it, are there bosses immune to it? if not, how long does a stack last, if forever, could you stack it on like... kephri? would it keep ticking as she's in the invlun phases?

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you'd have to have the initial blindbag pact first i think

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so you still have to use a heavy weapon,

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it could be a 1hander though

sleek finch
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Thats what I was thinking, but hoping thats not the case

languid mauve
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That nokia 6400 quality

small flower
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if you want a decent option for triggering blindbags with faster weapons

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full blood moon is an option

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you do have to deal with the "clackity clack" of the maca's forever though

unkempt terrace
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I would assume that a lightweapon could trigger a bb attack however, it would only be limited to 10% max with 5 heavy weapons in invi

small flower
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it words it as "your chance of triggering is increased"

unkempt terrace
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As you need to be using a heavy weapon and have the pact that enables the 15%

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Yeah

small flower
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not "you have a 2% per weapon chance"

unkempt terrace
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That was another though

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Althought to be fair

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Chance starts at 0

small flower
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XD

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well, i'd say chance starts at null

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taking the pact brings it into existence

sleek finch
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100% depends on how its coded. If it starts at 0, it should work. If null, then no. I think I agree with Perma that its more likely you have to have the initial blindbag pact, but who knows

unkempt terrace
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However, with thorns, it says you GAIN it when you take that pact

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It doesn't say you GAIN the BB ability when taking the Pact

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Just that you get a 15% chance.

small flower
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nothing else would suggest it works as 10% on light weapona ttack, the only real mild discrepency for any pact with the wording and how it works

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is the power staff charges triggering the initial nodes

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but those have seperate nodes in the first place that does enable it

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so it's at least pointed to

unkempt terrace
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Which initial node?

small flower
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the "when your spell regenerates fire runes, deal 1 additional damage for each rune regenerated this way"

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or whatever it says

unkempt terrace
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IMO No it doesn't

small flower
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it does

unkempt terrace
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I don't think it's going to

small flower
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confirmed

unkempt terrace
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Where?

small flower
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the leagues discord

unkempt terrace
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This is the leagues discord

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Is it not?

small flower
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oh hey, i can indeed post images

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i would forward that but i'm dumb with discord, i use this to talk shit and then leave a server so i stop getting pinged, idk anything else

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lol

unkempt terrace
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So isn't that saying "Whenever you Regenerate charges from a powered staff or wand, also Regenerate 1 water rune" triggers the Rune Regen?

tough finch
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Ayo what happens if I barbarian gather the fucking cox guardians with my crystal fists

small flower
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yes

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that's what i said

unkempt terrace
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That's what I said

small flower
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uhh, good question, i'd imagine it treats your fist as crystal pickaxe?

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take the light weapons attak 1 tick faster node

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your fists count as light weapons

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lol

tough finch
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I would break them with my bare fucking hands if I wasn't going eh, sounds sick as hell

small flower
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if i didn't hate cox and went zeah i'd try it

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that is not meant to be though

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same deal for the pillar in ToA I guess

brisk mauve
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That would be amazing. If they gave your fists the stats of a crystal weapon, and you could go a crystal light weapon build

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Of course it'd be very limited and weak against alot of shit

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Shame, Jagex should've made a naked build.

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If you aren't wearing armor or a weapon, Gain 150 strength, and you gain 10 strength every 1% HP you are missing. Then another pact. You can't miss with your fists.

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Or feet

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When you punch or kick an enemy, there is a 15% chance to perform a three hit combo. Each attack deals 25% damage more than the previous.

small flower
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double all damage taken, double prayer drain rate

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but -1 attack speed for every 10 ticks spent in cmobat?

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XD

brisk mauve
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When you kill a creature with the your fists or feet, the gods pray to you, giving them a 100% boost in their combat stats, and causing you to gain a 75% attack, strength and defence boost for 20 seconds.

small flower
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could probably make something derpy like that, but that's getting far closer to havnig an actual "class" in the game

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also would have to have some kinda use for loot

brisk mauve
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While wearing nothing, when you would die, ignore all damage and perform a desperate attack, dealing 3x as much damage(Combo Attack can proc on this, also gaining the damage boost). If you kill the creature with this attack you survive and heal for 20% HP

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And that is the naked build. Then it's just minor pacts you pick from there.

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Tough an echo boss could drop a prayer scroll that unlocks a prayer that only works if you aren't wearing anything.

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Prayer drains super fast, but gives you 1 tick attack speed, and changes your hair to spikey gold.

weary drift
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anyone got an air mage build?

brisk mauve
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I could make one real quick

weary drift
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and possibly a blindbag one? Im trynna show someone some dps, because they are not thinking this is real to have 40+ dps

small flower
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here's mine

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jumps up to 52 on task, or 56 on task in wildy using scepter w/ barrage

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i think most people don't go the tirranwyn route for and do ancestral/sunfire mix

brisk mauve
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I sent my friend a bluemoon blindbag build I made, let me see if I can find it

small flower
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my BB/Echo plan is a lot lower , the calc says it's only like 20-22 dps, i'ma still do it tho, looks fun

weary drift
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I thought blindbag had smth like 2k max hit? did new news come out?

small flower
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the calc fixed that

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it does still have like 500+ maxhits

weary drift
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so blindbag is kinda mid?

small flower
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ehhh, hard to say

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i think it's still good

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but it's not super crazy

weary drift
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considering the crossbow hits just as hard

small flower
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the wildy crossbow seems really good still though

brisk mauve
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Then just cast ice barrage and let everything else happen for you.

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Build around melee damage, and ice barrage is just used as filler to proc and heal. Any extra points can be used for whatever.

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Mainly prayer pen and accurayc

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And then the extra 5 points can go wherever

tough finch
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Idk if blue moon blindbag is going to be a real lategame thing like that, but maybe? I'd imagine by the time you're getting mega rare vouchers you've moved on to "realer" builds

small flower
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idk, i'll absolutely go for 3 scythes on my guy just for that

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just to keep them in inventory and use the echo tecpatl as my main weapon

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lol

brisk mauve
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It depends, tumekens shadow can hit like 105 or something like that max. If you build all damage.

small flower
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yea, that's kinda where shadow falls apart this league though

brisk mauve
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And that's assuming that it still can scale after 100% damage.

small flower
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it can hit 100's, max, at 2 speed

brisk mauve
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or well 100% ranged strength.

small flower
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while airwill hit 110's max, every hit, at 3 speed

brisk mauve
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I maen mage str

small flower
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shadow does stil lhave the wild accuracy benefit

brisk mauve
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I dono how that works after 34% mage str. It triples to 100. If any extra from other gear still effects it or if it's completely capped

small flower
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i dont think i've seen anything about it getting uncapped outside ToA

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but the crystal bonus shouldn't count towards cap

tough finch
small flower
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so you could probably get up there if you really like shadow

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yea the crossbow echo chance is kind of a must for any 2hand melee build

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i think echoes make up more of my damage than the actual blindbags

tough finch
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i also wonder if ice barrage's aoe is going to bounce back for heals

brisk mauve
small flower
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that would be silly, and i hope it does

tough finch
small flower
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though idk why not get both

brisk mauve
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Where is the 15% chance option

tough finch
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well just to compare those 2 points for "minimum viability" or whatever

small flower
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directly under the main ranged echo regen node

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in the range section

tough finch
small flower
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well, the 3 main ones do

brisk mauve
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Yeah but they all require you to regen ammo right?

small flower
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though yea i guess there's no other specifically rnage echo buffs

tough finch
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No, just the base ranged echo thing does

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and the +5% chance towards bottom

small flower
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just the main 25% and the little 5%'s involve regen

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ye

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the melee node says it acts like ranged weapons are equipped on triggering the echo

brisk mauve
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I guess you could get ranged echos trigger additional

tough finch
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Yeah that one is cool too

small flower
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and those 3 echo buffs state they are in effect while that type of range weapon is equipped

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it's intentionally synergistic

brisk mauve
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That's still what 2.5% chance to trigger them lol

tough finch
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brother, the crossbow +15% chance works on your 5% chance, making it 20% chance

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then the extra procs are 10% chance

lapis flax
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its additive not multiplicative

brisk mauve
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Even without a crossbow unequipped?

lapis flax
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so its 20% total

tough finch
lapis flax
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all 3 of those starter nodes on rtanged affect your melee ranged echos

tough finch
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it's ballin

brisk mauve
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Oh well there is still 5 points in the last build i sent.

lapis flax
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from the leagues discord from mod husky

"Two handed weapons which trigger ranged echoes can do so with just that demonic pact, but they will not get the "never miss", "20% chance to max hit" or "+15% chance to trigger the echo" unless you have those ranged nodes unlocked."

brisk mauve
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So yeah you could grab that too

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So there with 1 point to spare where ever.

lapis flax
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but yeah you spec more into water options without taking the hally path which is also fine

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you really dont need all that prayer pen

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it can be usefull if you want to 1 style everythign but by the looks of it you are hybrid on that build

small flower
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there's only a few things you even need/want prayer pen for

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if you're doing desert you want it all the time probably, cuz akkha

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otherwise...

brisk mauve
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I assume you equip a halbred then have bluemoon spear in your inventory? So when blindbag procs if it choose the spear it has a chance to melee attack with it.

tough finch
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yeah and if you have those other ranged/melee nodes, it's not very painful to swap off of ice barrage spam inside blue moon set

small flower
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tirranwyn for hunlef while you're farming him

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and probably demonic gorillas in kandarin

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maybe some other echo bosses

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DKs had overheads i think

brisk mauve
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I see alot of people grabbing the halred capstone not realizing that anything other then a halbred doesn't reach 4 tiles to get the 7 tile capstone.

lapis flax
tough finch
lapis flax
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yes i know its low dps compared to whats possible but i just think itll be fun

tough finch
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You have to have blue moon spear equipped to go for that angle

small flower
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yea , 7 range hally sounds fun, but there's only so many respecs i can waste on trying silly things XD

brisk mauve
lapis flax
orchid forge
lapis flax
brisk mauve
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Oh I thought you said bluemoon not bluetooth lol

lapis flax
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yeah bluetooth hally

small flower
lapis flax
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looks like a spellbook casting build not powered staff build

orchid forge
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Powered to clear prif early.

lapis flax
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sure but you can respec

orchid forge
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This is without any respecs. What would you put that point in?

lapis flax
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unless you are planning to respec into completely different builds latert and want to save them for that

tough finch
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If you wanted a "late game" blue moon blindbag spam build I'd probably consider taking a look at these kinds of options here. This is a 40 pointer you could just shave stuff off of, I just think these options are closer to an "optimal" blue moon build. https://tools.runescape.wiki/demonic-pacts/?n=1-10-100-11-112-113-114-122-123-150-151-152-157-161-165-17-18-2-3-4-43-44-46-5-55-56-58-59-60-68-7-73-74-82-83-85-86-88-93-99

Demonic Pacts Planner - OSRS Wiki

Plan what you will choose in Leagues VI using our Demonic Pacts tree.

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But this meme build comes online way sooner than 40pts

brisk mauve
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Do we know if you proc blindbag with a halbred equipped using the 7 tile range, and you proc a weapon that isnt a halbred, is it gonna keep your halbred range, or are you gonna run in and hit it with it's like 3 tile melee range?

tough finch
small flower
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think so, should just throw it at it

brisk mauve
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Alright cool.

lapis flax
lapis flax
lapis flax
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ice/blood instead of water surge and fire surge?

orchid forge
lapis flax
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ic just wanna have that option

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fair enough

orchid forge
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Im open for suggestiond

lapis flax
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cause

orchid forge
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Btw Kandarin - priff - morytania

lapis flax
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i was gonna say if ancients are your main options you dont need the fire regen pact

lapis flax
orchid forge
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Yea I am

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And reload to the slayer relic

lapis flax
orchid forge
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Yeah the primary pvm use case is, over heal with water surge. Then damage with fire surge until i need to heal again

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Since its increased dmg for all the extra hp with fire

lapis flax
orchid forge
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Transmutation for wrath runes

lapis flax
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👍

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just making sure you thought about how to get them without fremmy

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and you really only need 1

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with rune regeneration

small flower
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plenty of options now, wildy, kandarin, fremm, the relic

lapis flax
small flower
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the rune altar thing, go up there with someone, spells dont take runes, cast a surge spell on a guy, regen a rune, you're now set

lapis flax
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wiki says only sources are adamant/rune dragons, vorkath, and yama

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OH wait

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you can go abyss

small flower
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lol

lapis flax
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rc

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true

small flower
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you'd still have to have kandarin for the altar tho

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i mean the uhh

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true rune fountain?

lapis flax
small flower
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the thing you make eternal glory at

lapis flax
#

yeah no you are right

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with r 100% rune regen you only need 1 so easy enough

small flower
#

sort of a cheesy workaround

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but yea

lapis flax
#

it really is just those optiosn tho

small flower
#

what works works!

lapis flax
#

wiki kand fremm

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and zeah with yama too ig

small flower
#

oh right

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well

lapis flax
#

but if you are a mage buiold then you gotta kill yama and get a 1/95 drop from him without surge spells

small flower
#

assuming you can actually get something from his normal drop table

lapis flax
#

lmao

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and yeah because of 5x drop modifier on uniques that 1/95 is probably much less

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if its possible at all

small flower
#

it wasn't during grid, but i think we had 8x there?

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i forget

lapis flax
#

yeah we had more p sure

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it should be possible

small flower
#

yea, 8x

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so a bit less now

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though that conversely makes them even more rare XD

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but at least possible

lapis flax
#

technically possible highly unlikely

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better to think about other sources if possible

tough finch
#

assuming undead grasp over ice barraga

small flower
#

undead grasp just seems more reliable for the melee

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since it's got 100% bind chance

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yea, that looks perfect for 16 points

tough finch
#

it's a 50% chance to proc the set effect I thought compared to barrage 20%

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not 100%?

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barrage can let you hit a little harder with the blue moon spec consuming the bind but who cares

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20% so low

small flower
#

ward of arceuus spell

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or am i misunderstanding that

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oh

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mark of darkness

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derp

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wrong spell name

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"The bind chance of grasp spells is doubled, "

tough finch
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"50% chance to occur after successfully casting a Grasp spell from the Arceuus spellbook, even if it does not bind a target."

small flower
#

gotta recast it every 3mins or so

tough finch
small flower
#

ah

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I see

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well should still be good

tough finch
#

I gotta stop spamming my meme shilling in here lol. Someone talk about air bender mage or something.

small flower
#

weird dumb builds make the game fun 😛

#

probably want melee gear other than the set itself

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since a lot of your actual damage is coming from the blindbags and melee-stat scaled range echoes

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bloodfury, ultos, etc, probably still conflictions though

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something like that for a final tree

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cloud panther
#

All I know, is that I know nothing

lapis flax
#

do we know if the range strength increased by 80% of melee strength option affects the ranged echoes from melee hits? i know that the melee echos count for holding a thrown weapon but, its a little weird

small flower
#

no, the melee range echoes say they scale by melee stats

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so the range str shouldn't affect it

cloud panther
#

hm

lapis flax
#

okay good

brisk mauve
#

So they confirmed the crossbow ranged echo works with the 5% melee? It's just worded in a way that makes me think it wouldn't give the extra 15% increased, atleast not until after it procs with the 5% first.

small flower
#

that's a proper throwing node

lapis flax
#

cause i didnt account for taking that node in my build

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lmao

small flower
#

yes that's confirmed crow

lapis flax
#

go to the leagues discord and look at all the confirmation posts mod husky has made

brisk mauve
#

Alright ty

lapis flax
#

id screen shot it but i dont have steel

cloud panther
#

How long do you think it will take to get the 2nd relic

lapis flax
small flower
#

first 2 are pretty fast if it's the same as previous leagues

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T3 is reasonable on day1, T4 for sweaty people

lapis flax
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idk if ill be able to do all those tasks in 30 minutes some of them depends on how many people are also trying to do them at that time (mining nodes etc) but theoretically it shouldnt take long

small flower
#

or T3 if you play a decenta mount but have zero plan and like to wander around

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but yea, who knows scaling this year

lapis flax
#

if you take woodsman and do all the hunter tasks youll get t4 pretty quick

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first day easily

tough finch
#

Have they confirmed if the elemental rune regen nodes count your total runes regenerated for their effects, or just runes of that element? It kind of reads to me like it counts the total number of runes regenerated, not just the elemental ones. I.e. regenerating water runes, if you did a spell that was 5 water 5 air and regenerated all 10 runes, you'd get 10 heals not 5.

cloud panther
#

Think they will release a list of tasks before it launches?

lapis flax
#

if you arent a woodsman enjoyer then idk how long itll take

small flower
#

yea they usually do

cloud panther
#

ty

small flower
#

cuz dem sweats like to plan out every 3 seconds

lapis flax
small flower
#

i'm fine with "am i going east or north" ... south it is!

lapis flax
#

if you cast fire surge thats 10 fire runes and 7 air runes regened

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and if you have over 100% chance then the extra chance to regen that many runes again

cloud panther
#

what if you have 150% regen

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sweet

lapis flax
#

and all ndoes affected say "per rune regened"

small flower
#

oh, i missed that confirmation post

tough finch
#

That is actually so busted if it's true.

lapis flax
cloud panther
#

I love you guys

tough finch
#

Weaponized autism

lapis flax
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"Regeneration happens once but takes into account how many runes the spell cast regenerated. Infinite rune sources still trigger regenerations
Spells which use both a water and and air rune for example, can trigger two different regenerations, one for the number of air runes you used and one for the number of water runes you used
Combination runes trigger both of the regenerations but regenerate into their separate runes, so regenerating a mistrune will proc both but return you an air and a water rune
Regeneration only triggers for runes that were actually required by the spell. So no using combination runes to trigger regeneration effects from earth/fire for a water spell (air/water)"

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cant screenshot as i said before but thats copy pasted from husky's post

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first line is the important one here

cloud panther
#

question: Does anyone know if you have the butler's bell and have him smelt your ore if you need coal or just the main ore?

small flower
#

that doesn't read as 10 air + 7 fire = 17 fire damage and 15% chance for 17 prayer, that reads as 10 prayer 7 damage

shadow badger
languid mauve
languid mauve
small flower
#

yea that first line is just saying if you have 150% regen it doesn't try to regen each rune individually it takes it as a whole, so it either would regen 10 or 20, with a 50% chance of 20

lapis flax
lapis flax
#

but the pact nodes themselves say per rune regenerated

brisk mauve
#

Damn now i'm starting to think melee is absolutely busted lol. Originally I thought the halbred range would make you run up to the target and and make it alot of work to combo with blindbag unless you only had other halbreds. And then the ranged echo only has 5% chance. Those few confirmed things literally took heavy melee from decently balanced with every other build to being absolutely busted lol

lapis flax
#

so if you regen 10 fire runes your next spell will increase dmg by 10

small flower
#

his question was whether it tallies all runes the spell used and then applies both types of bonuses

tough finch
#

I read it as looking at the total number of runes regenerated for each regeneration effect, but I read the 15% chance as flat and the amount of prayer as scaling

small flower
#

so it's a no

languid mauve
small flower
#

you were right on the chance being static and amount scaling

lapis flax
#

thats totally on me

tough finch
#

This will be easy enough to figure out once this shit drops

small flower
#

true that

toxic vortex
lapis flax
lapis flax
brisk mauve
#

Well 2 handed melee is member build. Seems like every other build seems fairly balanced.

lapis flax
#

they arent over 2k anymore

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only like 500

toxic vortex
#

Oh?

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I'd have to look

tough finch
brisk mauve
#

Meme build*. One handed looks about in line with elemental magic, and some ranged builds I think crossbow might be the second most busted

lapis flax
#

thorns seems really nice

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and 1h is also okay

brisk mauve
#

I'm plannin on going earth water magic, but also able to respec into thorns

lapis flax
#

hally and blindbag will be one of the weakest builds but definitely fun sounding at least

brisk mauve
#

My area's will give me near bis magic str and near bis defence so i'll be able to try them both out.

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Then third respec to which ever I like more.

cloud panther
brisk mauve
#

Kandarin, Kourend and Mort

cloud panther
#

ty

tough finch
#

I'm also going those regions

lapis flax
#

the dihns suffering justiciar thorns build will be very afk

tough finch
#

kandarin and zeah for the gear and morytania for tob with the boys

brisk mauve
#

I really only lose out on magus ring for mage, and battle helmet but ancestral is same mage str, i'll just be losing defence bonuses.

cloud panther
#

I am in a toss up between Kourend and Mort. Mostly cus I hate CoX.

lapis flax
#

apparently (i think it was husky) one of the mods testing it was able to afk 5 jads challenge

brisk mauve
#

But i'm earth water

lapis flax
#

after a few attempts ofc

brisk mauve
#

I don't think defense bonuses is gonna matter a whole lot

lapis flax
#

but got good rng and afk'd it

brisk mauve
#

Especially not like 30 in each lol

cloud panther
#

not mort

lapis flax
cloud panther
#

I meant kourend and Wildy

lapis flax
#

with like 1900 total defense values

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for plus 19 dmg on all recoil and thorns dmg

brisk mauve
#

yeah all in thorns looks crazy busted

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Also blood fury to help heal ontop of the heal from thorns

lapis flax
#

yeah

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cause it also uses blindbag

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since dihns is a 2 handed weapon

brisk mauve
#

I think you can smack things for like 65

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I didn't think about adding blind bag lol

lapis flax
#

so the blood fury will heal up to 99 and then the thorns dmg will opver heal from pacts

cloud panther
#

hmm

brisk mauve
#

I'll have to work around with thorns before I go it, and decide if I want to go blind bag too.

cloud panther
#

can someone design me a good Dinh's setup in the pacts

brisk mauve
#

I was just gonna stand far away and let it heal me lol

lapis flax
brisk mauve
#

while they attack and kill themselves

cloud panther
#

I'm dum

#

ty

lapis flax
#

you dont need the blind bag in order to heal

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but like

brisk mauve
#

I got a thorns build I built yesterday, but I gotta remember where I put it lol

lapis flax
#

in terms of inferno for example, you will still heal from all the shit far away from you triggering thorns

brisk mauve
#

Yeah I grabbed a shit ton more defence points than the build you posted

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I think I grabbed them all

lapis flax
#

if you dont take the blindbag path tho with dihns you can also spec into more defense or like water mage tree and use a dfs with waterspells to heal

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but this one that i posted would be specifically with dihns as main hand weapon

small flower
# languid mauve

just noticed the earth regen pact scaling down at the bottom there, that is super nice, especially since potion boost won't affect defense with any of those

ebon hearth
#

is there gonna be pvp tourny in leagues

lapis flax
#

dont look at the dps it doesnt include thorns

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which is most of your dmg

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lmao

small flower
#

looks solid

#

no double melee range? it should count for door

lapis flax
#

but yeah thats 1980 total defense so assuming it rounds down its plus 19 dmg to all recoil and thorns

small flower
#

not that 2 range is that much of an improvement

lapis flax
#

just remove the 15% accuracy node in the ranged tree

brisk mauve
#

Yeah I still got 4 points left over, so I can still grab blind bag, just not the buffs to it

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I could get rid of some prayer pen, but I still might wanna smack shit that blocks melee lol

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Though if im smacking it for mad damage with blind bag, I don't really get to enjoy the point of a thorns build lol

lapis flax
#

the prayer pen nodes in my setup are only there cause you want the overheal node and the prayer/hp regen on getting hit a 0 node

brisk mauve
#

Standing around doing nothing while they kill themselves

lapis flax
#

you can also get rid of the nodes to the left of the blindbag tree

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they dont necessariually do too much

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i mean ig you should be overhealling permanently so the extra dmg on your dihn smack is somethign

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but its not the main dmg of the build to begin with so

brisk mauve
#

Yeah.

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But it'll be fun to hide behind fortis pillar and hit use spec to kill everything lol

lapis flax
#

honestly me putting points into blindbag and melee echos is literally just because the thorns function with just the thorn tree and dont really synergise with anything else, you could say defense levels for the higher chance to reflect dmg but then you get hit less so less dmg with suffering and echo boots

brisk mauve
#

It's a shame blindbag cant proc on specs

lapis flax
#

the same mod thjat tested thorns build on 5 jads also said he could afk up to sol heredit in collo lmao

brisk mauve
#

Yeah, I'm going defense, I'm fine with getting hit with 0's. My goal is basically be unkillable lol

lapis flax
#

fyi

brisk mauve
#

I want to be as unkillable as possible.

ebon hearth
#

6 jads while afk

lapis flax
#

so it definitely works as intended

brisk mauve
#

I wish min hit increase worked with thorns and recoil lol

winged trench
#

Anyone got a nice blowpipe setup?

rich rune
#

Anyone know if fang of the hound will have it's magical spell damage reduced against tekton and olm mele hand?

worldly stream
#

will ali morrisane rune shop in desert be available after unlocking desert?

languid mauve
#

Well im off to bed my friends 3 more days before leagues and maybe last tier 8 reveal tomorrow

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Good night

silver sundial
#

Anyone know if Jagex will release the relic teaser metal music?

ember wyvern
small flower
#

awkwardly... kinda, the spec doesn't seem to be included on the dps calc

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i think it might pull ever so slightly ahead with the spec?

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but with far more investment in order to do so

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so of course i think i'ma go for that as end-game weapon

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btw if you want to share that, you've gotta click the share loadout button on the top right of the site

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it'll generate a link

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like dat

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same dif though, blood moon beats out torva+tecpatl, but crystal+tecpatl beats out blood moon

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granted that's not including the tecpatl spec

lapis flax
small flower
#

it's probably still a practical main weapon, though i guess ti also depends on how the triggers for ranged echos are figured

wary egret
#

is there any way to get anti venom without mory or tira?

small flower
#

if it's actually per hit splat, i think i'll be happy with the tecpatl as my main weapon

smoky raft
small flower
#

for sure

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unsure how i'ma start out, may just start with water/power mage just because that'd be a ridiculously easy cape+hunlef grind

toxic vortex
somber meadow
#

So in the pacts tree if i select regenerate charges from a powered staff even if im using the kandarin echo bosses does that still regen me runes ?

smoky raft
#

technically yes

somber meadow
#

Technically isn’t that staff casting from the spellbook?

small flower
#

you can get as boss drops in kandarin/wildy/mory

smoky raft
#

the kandarin echo boss staff is not a powered staff

small flower
#

shadowflame is not powered, you will just regen rune from whatever spell you use

smoky raft
#

it is a powered autocast* staff, comparable to an upgraded twinflame without the slower attacks

wary egret
toxic vortex
small flower
#

XD, kill venenatis or spindel

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if you're gonig wildy anyway

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they drop 'em

somber meadow
smoky raft
#

oh that's mb

small flower
#

it is an autocast staff, it does not have charges

smoky raft
#

I just fumbled the whole ass opposite term

toxic vortex
#

In past leagues, even last league with varlamore, you needed T in order to get anti-venom

smoky raft
#

it is not a powered staff

small flower
#

oh?

#

like it just won't drop otherwise?

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or what

#

oh i was looking at the wrong potion, derp

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duh

#

ignore me

toxic vortex
#

One of the things that will be nice with taking T

somber meadow
toxic vortex
#

Having the max restore pool

small flower
#

those specific nodes will not affect it no

#

but if you're casting fire surge, you will get the effects from regenerating fire and air runes

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assuming you regenerate them

smoky raft
#

damn, I thought for a second "wait what about krakens"

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but that's antidote++

wary egret
#

wildy first feels like it has a lot of low hanging pact point fruit

small flower
#

yea i was just bein dumb lol

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wildy should be a very easy point chunk, voidwaker might take a bit? but max drop rate is early so even that should be easy enough

smoky raft
#

getting mal ward is gonna be annoying

toxic vortex
small flower
#

hm, depends on how many people farming the bosses I guess

toxic vortex
#

Without T or desert, no quick restore for boss fights

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And for those who don't take transmute, no ultra compost for you

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For the same reason

dull imp
#

Is there any sarasword blindbag setups? seems like a 4t triggering a bunch of slower weapons might be good(maybe also add in the ranged echo stuff)

small flower
#

defniitely one of the major benefits of transmute lol

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that's why i'm planning on the tecpatl

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is heavy, 2h, 4tick, spec is mini d-claws

dull imp
#

oh sick, dont need asgarnia then

toxic vortex
#

Nally is only 1 tick slower and gets the benefit of the longer range

dull imp
wary egret
small flower
#

that is true, if you want the range and dont care about spec, nally is a good option

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i wanna vomit out nonstop hitsplats though

dull imp
#

i think im gunna hunter rush and max out all the points i can in starting zone, then pick more stuff later

small flower
#

and the tecpatl fills that void

dull imp
#

hard to choose stuff/know whats gunna be bugged on release

small flower
#

true

wary egret
small flower
#

i have a feeling i'm gonna be going back and forth on what i want for third region all the way up till it's time to pick it

dull imp
small flower
#

eh, there's plenty of worlds, plus that

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plus woodsman if you take it helps speed that up immensely

somber meadow
#

So how the fuck does the mage build even work to go all the way to the end with like the water spells and adding the rune regen with kandarin because the more i think about it it doesn’t work together

small flower
#

?

#

why

#

you get the shadowflame staff

#

you cast water surge

dull imp
#

ez bank off cape as well

small flower
#

if you have 150% rune regen, you regen 10 runes, and have a 50% chance of getting 20 instead

dull imp
#

oh shit cape is in feldip

small flower
#

that's 10/20 hp every 3 ticks, plus another 60% of the damage you deal back to you in healing

dull imp
#

hmm

small flower
#

plus the prayer you gain back since the spell uses air runes too

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so you get the .. .~38% damage bonus, then *1.4 with the shadowflames second hit

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and whatever weakness the mob has (minimum 30% with devils element)

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puls whatever %magic damage you get from gear/tree

dull imp
#

prif/mory/x - Or kandarin/zeah/x. Those are the routes im leaning

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dunno what i want to make x

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prif mory for powerstaff tribrid, kandarin zeah for turbo elemental

small flower
#

prif/mory/x for melee and prif/wild/kand for mage ... it's a good thing i like CG

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(is my plan atm)

toxic vortex
dull imp
small flower
#

yea

toxic vortex
#

Yes

small flower
#

why kand on melee?

#

just cuz?

toxic vortex
#

For mage

small flower
#

oh, more of a hybrid

dull imp
#

i know im going hunter sunlight cbow off the start

#

5t dragon arrow 70% bonus damage gunna be strong with perma max hit

toxic vortex
#

Yeah Kand only offers piety for melee, which is nice but hardly a huge boost

dull imp
#

then probably respec into a mage or blindbag setup later

small flower
#

probably gonna go pure water mage and branch into 90% prayer pen to start, just rush CG, idk

dull imp
small flower
#

yea

dull imp
#

thatll probably be my respec into mage after first echo

#

prif will probably be my second unlock if i go that route

small flower
#

well, "rush" for me is a slow eventual start to combat lol

mint stone
#

In cg with 90% pen we can just camp the powered staff?

dull imp
small flower
#

ye, probably gonna pick something else first, and just run around doin stuff

dull imp
#

yea

small flower
#

yes

dull imp
small flower
#

just move around n pray

#

and he gets deleted

dull imp
#

will soul shards work where you stack up a bunch then just spam click the alter?

small flower
#

also a very relaxing way to farm zenytes

mint stone
dull imp
mint stone
#

Wonder if it's worth to afk with larce here

small flower
#

eh, you could also mine or thiev ores, transmute to runite, sell for tokkul

#

depends on how fast you want the onyx's

toxic vortex
#

You'd be better off stealing gems in varlamore then selling to the shop for tokkul

#

and buying an onyx

small flower
#

^

mint stone
#

oh didn't know you can sell for tokkul

#

sick

toxic vortex
#

yes

dull imp
#

with all the healing on the tree feels like eternal sustenance is kinda bait

small flower
#

idk which sells for most, gems or ores, but either one would be viable

mint stone
dull imp
#

unless you wanna setup a thorns autoclicker

dull imp
mint stone
toxic vortex
#

there are plenty of choices

small flower
#

yea

dull imp
#

endless punch tree for infinite strength and agil

mint stone
#

Honestly, since I am picking Kandarin, won't I be able to endless harvest at barb fishing spot and get agility that way?

dull imp
#

yea

small flower
#

yea

dull imp
#

itll double dip

toxic vortex
#

indeed

mint stone
#

So that means I can pick woodsman and not even think about it

small flower
#

yep

toxic vortex
#

that's my plan

dull imp
#

i think barb goes so well with kandarin

mint stone
#

sickkk, cuz I was worried about hunter and heard woodsman is good for that

small flower
#

woodsman is great for that

toxic vortex
#

woodsman is great for it

dull imp
#

i might do khanda mory prif

toxic vortex
#

plus the extra seeds

small flower
#

think i went the hunter relic both of the last leagues

#

it helps so much

#

and now you get seeds yea

smoky raft
#

leagues amirite

dull imp
toxic vortex
dull imp
#

after seeing how strong some of the stuff feels

mint stone
#

Endless Harvest, Woodsman, Eye, Transmutation, Larce, Culling Spree, Reload to Soul Harvest, Minion
1st Kandarin, 2nd Tirannwn, 3rd Desert

This is my current plan, cool D:

smoky raft
dull imp
toxic vortex
smoky raft
#

that assumes I reload into one of hte T1 relics

#

which is frankly silly

dull imp
#

oh yea

small flower
#

or you want bloodbark/barrows

smoky raft
#

I'm not going to reload into barb when I could drastically speed up my remaining skills with flow state

dull imp
#

what else would i reload into? i dont need conniving or more tps, or hotfoot, the only other option is soul shard

small flower
#

though i suppose both of those are a bit less in demand with us starting inv arlamore

dull imp
#

and then go endless harvest off the rip

#

and just barb fish

smoky raft
#

I'm not reloading at all

dull imp
#

hmm, that might be better actually, endless harvest into barb fishing kanda

small flower
#

soul shard does help you deal with runecrafting if you were wanting to max

#

but yea, agil is also a consideration

dull imp
#

barb speaks to me starting out cuz you have such an easier early game

smoky raft
#

the key to being able to afford league rewards is to realize that the incredibly overpriced outfits are just Kinda Ugly™

small flower
#

ye, gonna go BG-Wood

dull imp
#

no need for tools just go hit shit

toxic vortex
smoky raft
#

I don't think there has been a good leagues outfit reward since the original trailblazer

small flower
#

oh yea the outfits themselves tend to be kinda whatever

#

some of the cosmetics have been nice

dull imp
mint stone
#

Soul Harvest is the only good relic for runecrafting truly?

smoky raft
#

the orn kits go hard

toxic vortex
#

its certainly the relic that solves it the fastest

dull imp
smoky raft
#

regardless of your region choices it's very quick nature altar access

small flower
#

map is indeed prett ygood for some regions

#

ah, well yea there's that

sinful swallow
small flower
#

good for blood altar for sure

dull imp
smoky raft
#

and even before you have nature it's very quick cosmic altar access

mint stone
#

ic

dull imp
#

ok yeah fuck evil eye

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i can get to the bosses the old fashioned way

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if i go khandarin i get quick bank with hunters cape as well

smoky raft
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how often do you really expect to have to leave and resupply lmao

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I will gladly walk

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(well, run)

dull imp
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choice paralysis vs i need to go do this boss zoom zoom

toxic vortex
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it will reset the cooldown on flask

smoky raft
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map also has a bank in varlamore

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small flower
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eh, or if you're an air mage you can just attack like 12 times and it's reset

dull imp
dull imp
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map hotkeys gunna go hard

toxic vortex
dull imp
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map is it this season lol

smoky raft
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(this does put you outside the bank, you do have to run around, but still)

small flower
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(slightly exaggerating) lol

toxic vortex
smoky raft
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24

toxic vortex
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basically nothing

small flower
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if calc is right, my max in wildy doin' slayer is like 130 with smoke barrage

smoky raft
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yea

small flower
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so if i really wanna do slayer late-late game

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i could probably push it

dull imp
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oooo

mint stone
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I can't wait to test the water mage build nuking the inferno

dull imp
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agil map has true blood alter shortcut

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93

toxic vortex
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of course it does

smoky raft
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worth noting that anyone picking woodsman will also get the unlimited charge quetzal whistles which is another close bank

small flower
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oh right, i did indeed forget that was part of it lol

dull imp
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theres the runecraft solve, since endless harvest is infinite pure ess anyways

small flower
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gonan worry about relic specifics on launch

toxic vortex
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assuming you have a region you can mine ess

smoky raft
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  • assuming you have a region with access to an essence mine
dull imp
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khanda

small flower
smoky raft
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that works

toxic vortex
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still have to bank and repeat

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hella boring

dull imp
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kanda* im assuming im going since i plan on taking barb

small flower
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ye

smoky raft
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ardy guy and wiz guild

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... and the gnome guy too

dull imp
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if the last t8 relic is bankers note, rc is solved

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and ill just do it late

small flower
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idc what last T8 is, i'ma probably pick it regardless

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unless it's somehow bad? then i guess minion'll do

smoky raft
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they've confirmed bankers note will NOT be coming back

dull imp
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damn

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that shit was the best for rc

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maybe reload into soul shards 🙁

mint stone
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Minion feels like a no-brainer

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it is good dps + you get free auto loot

smoky raft
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currently I'm a minion fan, passive damage is an easy way to cheese a lot of encounters that I might not want to learn how to do properly

toxic vortex
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pending tomorrow

small flower
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true, just poke something to aggro and hide in a corner

dull imp
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minion with eternal sustenance would be troll

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you just triple eat non stop and chill

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with thorns or some shit

mint stone
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This league is too short, we need another month duration. This is too fun speculating

dull imp
mint stone
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amen

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and change zones

dull imp
smoky raft
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minion + eternal sustenance + thorns and 200+ effective def level

catch me chillin while the boss murders itself

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dull imp
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or someone would die nolifing every single zone in 60 days

small flower
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i think the limit is 178?

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err, 188?

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one sec

mint stone
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No prayer afk inferno build, imagine

dull imp
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188 max hp

smoky raft
small flower
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ahh

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then yea

smoky raft
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technically I'll have access to piety too

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thats a 25% boost

small flower
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so nearly 240 with piety

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189 if you're just an earth mage

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or something

fickle pine
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brothers they put shield hero build in this game fr

small flower
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power staff thorn tank?

fickle pine
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sheep's build

dull imp
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whats so good about transmutation?

fickle pine
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It has it ups and downs

small flower
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lol

dull imp
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like whats some busted shit you can do with it?

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i have the clue one picked right now, cuz clues are always a pita but tons of points

small flower
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gets you wrath runes, turn iron ore into runite, cowhides into black dragonhide, effectively gets you as much tokkul as you can imagine

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uhh

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ultra compost, prayer solve

dull imp
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oh damn

small flower
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you can make crappy pyre logs and upgrade them to redwood

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save time with the oil grind

fickle pine
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kill 1200 lvl 2 men, collect their bones, Transmute them to superior dragon bones wait til 8x league multiplier, then bless them at the alter/libation
congratulations, you have 99 prayer

dull imp
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ok maybe reload into clue one instead

small flower
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buy a ton of mind runes and downgrade to pure essence

dull imp
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whats everyones farming solve?

fickle pine
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plant seeds, hope they grow

small flower
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try to remember to plant trees when i can

dull imp
small flower
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no sadly

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downgrades are forced noted

dull imp
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damn thatd be easy solve for runecraft

mint stone
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i feel like farming is a quick one regardlss of relic

dull imp
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true

small flower
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you could buy potato seeds from shop and upgrade to snapegrass

mint stone
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the tree exp is high'

small flower
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then convert herb seeds to ranarr seeds

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target grow prayer pots

dull imp
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i guess i have tons of seeds from woodsman anyways

small flower
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ye that part of it's not quite as handy

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the runite ore, bones, runes, and gems are pretty nice though

dull imp
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just cycle the farming patch north of hunter guild constantly

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wait

fickle pine
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I am going to tithe farm, tree run, it will be the most passive one 99 is a cinch when you remember perils drops maples and yews

dull imp
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can i uncute zenyte transmute?

small flower
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no

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it stops at dragonstone

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no zenyte cheese

dull imp
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is there a pinned link for dev explanations

small flower
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though with tzhaar shops, onyx cheese is easy

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the wiki page for tthe relic has the entire list

dull imp
dull imp
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or y

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ohh

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if i click into transmute it has more details

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ty

small flower
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leagues discord faq has a link to a mod on the question about downgrading into noted items

molten gust
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Tbh wouldn’t be hard to get say rune ore or chaos runes with transmute.

small flower
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yea

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EH ? easy iron, now it's easy rune

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or just buy from shop or steal from stall and transmute it

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if you go larcenist too, steal from stall, it's 10x loot, plus you get it noted

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yo udon't even have to move to transmute the stuff and sell it to the shop

dull imp
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early prayer - light fire, take ashes, transmute up

small flower
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lol ye, faster to kill a cow or something than waiting for a fire to vanish XD

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it IS T4, so it's not like it's super early

dull imp
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im assuming ill have t4 with hunter rush before unlocking a new region

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since hunter is like 3k points

small flower
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i keep figuring i'll rush things, then i find myself wildly distracted doing weird nonsense that doesn't give points

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then on day 3 i finally get around to relic chasing

dull imp
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i cant remember, was last leagues relics were from task count and regions were from points or was it the other way?

small flower
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flipped

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regions are from amount completed

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relics were point total

dull imp
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ah

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yea points, let me look at last leagues point unlock threshholds

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t4 was 2500 points

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so easily doable with hunter rush imo

small flower
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assuming it's exactly the same

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but yea i'd figure it's at least close

dull imp
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im assuming itll be within +- 500 points

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a clean hunter blocklist is doing every task downstairs with no extra regions unlocked

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and if you can get mostly butterflies, youre doing like a rumor per minute at 16x xp multi at rank 2

fickle pine
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abundance > Friendly Forager > Moonlight moths (112K/hr)*Tier multiplier+(Herb acquisition)

dull imp
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im going endless for sure so i can afk at work

dull imp
fickle pine
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equally valid strat

dull imp
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i can kinda afk with barb as well, but not as well early

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so kanda unlock for sure for free agil

small flower
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EH makes sense on my alt, but i'ma e going BG

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alts going kand, yea, makes more sense there too

fickle pine
dull imp
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if i could actively play the majority of the league id be for sure doing barb and double dipping kanda

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but i know like 3 weeks into league, 6 hour logging is gunna be nice for the gathering skills

fickle pine
dull imp
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if some giga thorns afk comes out, ill respec into that

fickle pine
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sounds like it wont be hard to get Tier 5-6