Yeah, it does not say per 5 on the board so it seems way too OP rn lol
#leagues-general
kind viper
shadow badger
Same but I'm going Asg instead of wildy and picking barb and flask of fervour
kind viper
I REALLY don't want to go do gauntlet
potent quail
Yeah, it does not say per 5 on the board so it seems way too OP rn lol
may be 10
may be 1
may be 99
kind viper
Its the only thing keeping me from tirannwyn
potent quail
I REALLY don't want to go do gauntlet
gauntlet is chill af with combat masteries
kind viper
Which is sad, since the halberd build looks really cool
shadow badger
To the prison you go!!!
kind viper
Though you could still do it with noxious ig
shadow badger
Crystal needs tiranwnn and kandarin
potent quail
nah i found the most broken build
kind viper
So you could spec into it early
potent quail
you all see it?
sick ledge
you all see it?
na
shadow badger
you all see it?
Nope
sick ledge
what you mean?
sick ledge
knife in ammo slot?
wanton arrow
Knives are in the weapon slot no?
potent quail
oh
shadow badger
bowfa with knifes in the ammo slot
Don't knives go in the weapon slot
kind viper
The crossbow build looks really good too
shut copper
Knives are indeed in the weapon slot.
potent quail
nvm then e,e
shut copper
I like your excitement though. Go find another one!
kind viper
I just wish they atleast gave us the max amount of points we get
shadow badger
Just pick the melee relic that gives you ranged echoes and pick all 3
sinful swallow
The crossbow build looks really good too
Im looking at heavy balista 9 tick slug shots
kind viper
That seems fun too
Yeah... no way I pick Kandarin
Seems like the ultimate no fun zone for me
shadow badger
Seems like the ultimate no fun zone for me
You WILL do BA and you WILL like it!!!
kind viper
lmfao
potent quail
btw i changed my mind
potent quail
its most likyl 30 skillpoints instead of 25
30 just feels nice
shadow badger
its most likyl 30 skillpoints instead of 25
30 just feels nice
Yeah
kind viper
Honestly, wouldn't surprise me if it was even more than that. Since there is so much extra filler on the board as well
old tapir
there's so many nodes that are like "pacts can overheal you" but the only thing i see actually being able to heal you is water spells
kind viper
Like all the prayer branches
smoky raft
I'm thinking of going earth mage with a bit of thorns if possible. Not settling on anything until we find out how pacts are unlocked though
sick ledge
like i said earlier, most likely the bad ass pacts will cost 5 pts or smth like that and the lower pacts will only cost 1, you would be able to pick pacts in multiple combat styles but might end up with not having enough points for bad ass pacts
thats the most logical
potent quail
there's so many nodes that are like "pacts can overheal you" but the only thing ...
melle also has one
kind viper
Yama boss prob gives quite a few points, since they made so much anti cheese in the normal relics for him
kind viper
two-handed shield? So just Bulkwark?
potent quail
or an off hand^^
smoky raft
I do think this specific pact is a lot better than I've seen people give it credit for
potent quail
if you dont take accuracy at all on the tree
its insane
smoky raft
that's a 0 resource fight caves right there on its own
potent quail
oh yeah
kind viper
Go full Thorns and just pray the Leviathan to death
potent quail
idk i really like the air thematik
smoky raft
Leagues 6 Pacifist Speedrun
potent quail
big focus on infinite prayer here
kind viper
Oh god, that is gonna be series ain't it?
swift oyster
do we know is soul shards are stackable and if they count as pure ess is that a massive rc xp dump all at once?
smoky raft
they are stackable, and only a certain amount are used up per action
kind viper
Fuck soul shards, Im picking hte farming relic for sure
potent quail
do we know is soul shards are stackable and if they count as pure ess is that a ...
soul shards are supposed to solve rc
smoky raft
so it's very fast but not quite "all at once"
swift oyster
rip so no 200m xp drop
shadow badger
soul shards are supposed to solve rc
Just pick kourend or desert
kind viper
Yeah going desert for sure for gotr\
Well not for that, but it solves it for sure
And pray is already solved with our spawn
Anyway Im off to bad, gn lads
smoky raft
honestly now that whole tier just comes down to "do I solve RC or thieving" because I don't really like training either during leagues
potent quail
i think rc can be solved with transmutation and map
smoky raft
I mean you can get essence that way but it's still gonna take a while
shadow badger
i think rc can be solved with transmutation and map
How
potent quail
How
infinite rune essence in every region from transmutation
map to agility shortcut near altar
shadow badger
infinite rune essence in every region from transmutation
map to agility shortcu...
Which regions are you picking
sick ledge
if taking kourend, you will have enough pure essence from cox
if taking endless harvest - simple afk pure ess while shitting
shadow badger
if taking kourend, you will have enough pure essence from cox
If taking kourend, just do zeah rc
smoky raft
Anyway I think my tier 5 choice is really going to depend on what the other T7 is
If it's banker's note, that's RC solved
If it's something bad, I can Reloaded into the one I didn't pick
smoky raft
if taking endless harvest - simple afk pure ess while shitting
assuming you pick a region with access to the rune essence mine
sick ledge
If taking kourend, just do zeah rc
even better
slate hollow
Soul seems cool but it doesn't trump Larcenist. Just going to transmute and Larcenist this league 100%
smoky raft
What's your draw to Larcenist
slate hollow
It's a replacement for abundance gp solve
smoky raft
it seems... fine, imo? Better than the farming one, but not by much
shadow badger
What's your draw to Larcenist
Crystal seeds for smithing and crafting
smoky raft
what do you expect to need the gp for?
slate hollow
Construction
smoky raft
smithing and crafting are already stupid easy
and, on that note, crafting is a gp solve
shadow badger
smithing and crafting are already stupid easy
What's the crafting solve
smoky raft
buy uncut gems -> cut them -> sell em back
same as every league, but now we start in a region that has a gem seller already
shadow badger
Great way to get carpel tunnel
shadow badger
Steal seeds -> make stuff for smithing and crafting xp -> alch for money
shadow badger
Larcenist also gives 20x clue pickpockets.
Does it?
shadow badger
Found this in pinned:
For clues they DO get multiplied 10x and we will make sure the relic description and blog are updated before launch. If you have the rogues outfit it will not further multiply clues to 20x.,
smoky raft
suppose there is that
I'm definitely not picking conniving clues over transmutation lmao
slate hollow
I'll be reloading to it
shadow badger
Yeah clue relic is for point cappers
slate hollow
Collect mass clues until reloaded then clue and spam fill col logs
Obv deps on the number of points in those clue related tasks this league
sick ledge
assuming you pick a region with access to the rune essence mine
larrans chest drops massive pure ess, cox does, brimstone chest - just sayin , but yh youre right
wanton arrow
Wonder what the drops from echo dks will be this time..
potent quail
oh damn thats kinda crazy
hit with cbow for guaranteed max hit
then 35% extra damage on halberd spec with potential of 5 extra sack hits
slate hollow
Wonder what the drops from echo dks will be this time..
I don't think they changed it. Didn't mention changing that one.
potent quail
mhh no overhead prayer build?
you switch between cbow and air spells for insane damage
If you need healing you cast water spells
no this is crazy
nvm
old tapir
can't help but notice the crossbow nodes don't have an atlatl disclaimer like bow and thrown
does that mean it works or that you'd have to be stupid to confuse it for a crossbow
steep dawn
unique smelt
Yes, but even if it did work 3 tick to 5 tick is horrifically bad, so it’s really just the other 2
potent quail
does that mean it works or that you'd have to be stupid to confuse it for a cros...
manXD
unique smelt
3 tick to 5 tick but 70% more damage is a 4% buff right?
potent quail
Yes, but even if it did work 3 tick to 5 tick is horrifically bad, so it’s reall...
then dont take that node
guaranteed max hit atlatl sounds already busted
unique smelt
Really really sad they didn’t just let Atllatl go hard.
It probably already goes hard with the right stuff though.
potent quail
like everyone can get it
so i do believe they said
no synergie at all with atlatla
as it would solve ranging way to easily
unique smelt
Everyone’s already getting an echo melee weapon that presumably beats main game scythe
potent quail
btw not many people mentioned it
but a spec spam build seems really nice
so you take the <1kg spec note to charge it up
and spec with your best weapon with a weapon switch
old tapir
i wonder if you get soul fragments from tithe farm
old tapir
did not expect i would pick the clue relic but its looking like that now lol
slate hollow
I'll be going back to clue relic probably with reloaded if there's a lot of task points for clues this league
old tapir
still can't really plan properly without knowing if banker's note is the other t7 or not
slate hollow
My bad. I forgot to refresh
old tapir
soul harvest does lessen note value tho
copper gorge
Im going butler for herbs
old tapir
my gut tells me i need to just forget about note and then reload into forager
copper gorge
And then larceny with reloaded and get farming relic
old tapir
but i can't commit
slate hollow
Yep. Agreed
I'm moving towards woodsman and 50mil XP hunter rush
Around 3k+ points likely there
Think it all depends on the zones you pick though. They did a good job diversifying this year
wanton arrow
Anyone think the cerb daggers will weigh more than 1kg? Lol
tired lily
is it me or does melee seem busted this league
potent quail
does someone have a list with all Echo weapons?
tired lily
mage looks interesting but im not sure its going to be strong.
range is always good i guess
potent quail
mage looks interesting but im not sure its going to be strong.
range is always g...
mage is mainly for support stats
damage wise 1t powered staff will be busted
and earth with flat damage has potential
gaunt creek
do we know how many cb mastery points we get to spend?
brisk mauve
I'm interested in that too. I got a build but I need atleast 63 points to achieve it, ideally like 68
I'm going earth spell tank build
with thorns and minion
potent quail
do we know how many cb mastery points we get to spend?
no idea
theory as of now is 30
potent quail
I'm interested in that too. I got a build but I need atleast 63 points to achiev...
68??? thats every build
brisk mauve
68 isn't every build, That's a little into mage and a little into melee.
I couldn't see less then 60 points if you want to be as strong as last leagues
gaunt creek
Last year was 24 choices with us getting to pick 10? Iirc. This year 1789 choices and we’ll still get to pick 10.
potent quail
potent quail
68 isn't every build, That's a little into mage and a little into melee.
I can make that build with 30 points
old tapir
40 seems likely
brisk mauve
So 132 and you can get everything
potent quail
40 would be luxus
brisk mauve
Yeah but 30 points and you might as well go tumekens shadow max mage gear
potent quail
I think 30 is a solid sweetspots
brisk mauve
Cause it will always be better
potent quail
35 and you can grab a bit more utilit
40 you grab prayer pen
swift oyster
i like the water thorns build atm for 30 pts
potent quail
Yeah but 30 points and you might as well go tumekens shadow max mage gear
I dont think so
I have a infinite health and prayer build
So no resources neefef for combat
Except runes and anmo
minor summit
Damn I wish I could look at the skill tree at work. I can on my phone, but it is a little wonk-fest.
swift oyster
geckos league planner goated for picking
minor summit
Is that the countdown that's pinned?
swift oyster
nah, but its whats everyones ss are from
brisk mauve
I'd assume it'd be over 30 points, considering last league you picked 6 things, and could pretty much do all content while ignoring most mechanics
brisk mauve
I could see 40, i'd have to skip out on some thorns, but it probably wont mesh will with like 150 defense anyway
though it sucks have to skip out on water to switch the two
I wont get much prayer pen which means i'll actually have to play the game as if it was main game.
swift oyster
last year we pickd 10/18 thats 55 percent, 55 percen of 130 is 71.5 so maybeeeeeee
brisk mauve
Yeah last year we got to main a full style and get half of another style
This year each weapon type has a different build. So I'd expect more points
swift oyster
true
brisk mauve
Maybe like 45-50
It may also be something like a set amount of major and alot more minor points
But probably not cause it seems it goes minor major minor major you'd eventually get trapped
inner zenith
30 seems to get you pretty solid builds
copper gorge
I can almost guarantee you will either have to respec or use more than 1 type of combat. I think they dont want people going for an op echo weapon and cheesing it.
tired lily
feel like im going to go melee. just some cool concepts based on weight/inventory.
Just not sure about regions.... probably MT... not sure what else though.
fierce heron
if its 25 you can do some amount of builds but you are trading a lot of the utility for damage ones, being able to pcik up blindbag halberd with b etter ranged echos is 25 but who knows
tough finch
Please jamflex let respeccing be reasonable so I can try all kinds of weird builds. Like let me try thorns water mage and just eat damage, reflect it, and heal it pleaaase
tired lily
t7 relic will be infinite respecs
respec vs reloaded
or you can have 2 specs at a time
2 relics vs 2 saved skills trees
or maybe uber yama will have a chance to drop a respec scroll
brisk mauve
I doubt they'll limit to 1 spec, I could see you being able to half max a full style and get alot of minors points around the place like prayer pen
They're trying to get people away from using stuff like twisted bow and tumekens.
And let more meme builds, niche builds work.
fierce heron
They're trying to get people away from using stuff like twisted bow and tumekens...
i doubt that with 2 tick shadow being only a 6 point investment and the only staff in the game to not get a lowered max hit from that pact
brisk mauve
But thats all tumekens get
You can build around elemental spells and do much better then tumekens
If htey dont limit the amount of points
inner zenith
twinflame > shadow
brisk mauve
By a crazy amount
Im assuming this new echo staff will probably let you choose which element you use or something
By right clicking it
inner zenith
ughh please
fierce heron
the fork of the sea as im calling it
brisk mauve
I assume they'll let you get like 50 points, and maybe a little more with some more difficult tasks
fierce heron
id say like 30 max
brisk mauve
30 max you'd get almost zero accuracy or prayer pen, you'd be playing the main game.
inner zenith
1t ayak is the main game btw
back to reddit u go
30 is all one style, or a nice mix
my moneys on 30
brisk mauve
but there is accuracy, prayer pen, regen spread around the entire tree
inner zenith
like 5 poiints?
brisk mauve
Just to get the same amount of prayer pen from the last game you got to put like 15 points
inner zenith
i now want it to be 20, just to spite you
brisk mauve
That's fine.
I don't care, If I don't like the answer I'll just keep playing the main game, and not waste my time, and you can keep catching feelings.
But I know when I play leagues in other games, I do it for the huge power, and speed. I don't feel like i'd be much more powerful with only 30 points.
tired lily
with regions being more balanced around not needing raid regions, I am inclined to think the echo items will be more comparable to BIS than raid items this time around
plus this skill tree benefits a lot of different weapons and playstyles
brisk mauve
Not enough for me to warrant playing another game. Last league I could AFK vard and most other bosses.
Without having to do mechanics, or switching styles, that's what i'd be expecting power wise from this leagues.
old tapir
do we know if the barrage part of the wildy crossbow counts as an ice spell for the purposes of triggering all those water nodes
fierce heron
i highly doubt it
fierce heron
but there is accuracy, prayer pen, regen spread around the entire tree
30 points gets you 2 capsone abilities on top of 65% accuracy of all styles and 75% prayer pen
brisk mauve
Yeah, but i'm comparing the points to to last leagues power scaling.
shut copper
I could see them making capstones cost more?
minor summit
Crossbows taking a 2 tick penalty for 70% damage and having crossbows always max hitting seems kind of cracked and worth the penalty yeah?
toxic vortex
It would be
brisk mauve
Or you could go around and ignore the 2tick penalty
Though you'd lose the 70% damage buff
fierce heron
you can but i dont see why you would
minor summit
1.2 seconds isn't crazy compared to the damage output.
I dont see the dps dropping, really
fierce heron
if you were going a crossbow ranged echo i could potentially see it but also if you are doing range echo just go bow instead of crossbow
toxic vortex
It entirely depends on if you take wild or asg
brisk mauve
Donno echo crossbow could be busted. 70% damage decrease, but when you hit that 4 echo max hit
Guess depends on if you like to gamble
minor summit
70% decrease?
toxic vortex
Maybe if you get dhcb from Cox too?
brisk mauve
I meant increase
toxic vortex
Like you wouldn't run that build if the best crossbow you could get is rune
brisk mauve
Well it'd be a decrease if you didnt pick it
You'd skip the 70% damage increase and go around to the max hit, grabbing the chance for up to 4 echos
minor summit
Isn't there one that reduces max hit by 8?
fierce heron
i dont see a world where the 70% guaranteed damage is better than having a slightly higher chance of ranged echo
toxic vortex
For powered magic weapons yeah
fierce heron
Isn't there one that reduces max hit by 8?
the poweered staff outside of the shadow
minor summit
Ah okay
old tapir
i dunno, i can't help but feel like this is weaker than raging echoes, all the random bonuses doesn't make up for not having attack speed
and you'll notice all the stuff that does have attack speed doesn't actually have that many bonuses
fierce heron
overall this leagues is lower power at least thats what i felt with the relic reveals
old tapir
that's like the one thing it shouldn't be unfortunately
brisk mauve
and you'll notice all the stuff that does have attack speed doesn't actually hav...
Mage has two attack speed ones, one for combat spells and one for powered staves
old tapir
Mage has two attack speed ones, one for combat spells and one for powered staves
i'm not seeing the one for spells
minor summit
GM, we were very stupid powerful
brisk mauve
It's in the middle
Of the mage one
But yeah last leagues we were busted, we had echo's, attack speed, accuracy boosts, and damage boosts.
and prayer pen just built in
shut copper
I still miss the khopesh
minor summit
RIP Khopesh.
brisk mauve
I was using full guthans and a blood fury, and was just unkillable, and absolutely decimating things
fierce heron
yea i dont know how to feel about the echo items the crossbow seems strong but overall im less interested in them than last years echo items
brisk mauve
I could only imagine if I went for max strength with a scythe
fierce heron
i think max mage strength 2 tick shadow is going to be insane just wish it had a bit more healing
brisk mauve
But it does seem like they want people to go away from powered staves, and go with combat spells this time, unless they give each powered staff an element
zealous whale
Anyone know if Larcenist 10x the clues or not. Been seeing mixed things about the reveal being incorrect by saying that it doesn't
brisk mauve
I like my earth build, but until we know how many points, I don't know if it'll be worth it, compared to just going tumkens, with max damage, accuracy and prayer pen.
wanton arrow
Anyone know if Larcenist 10x the clues or not. Been seeing mixed things about th...
I saw 10x clues is confirmed, but rogues outfit doesn't give it 20x
left spire
Hey gamers, I have friends that are interested in trying out the league to see what raiding is like. Anyone have a ballpark estimate of how long would it take to get minimum stats/gear for raids if you're rushing it?
brisk mauve
A day or two
wanton arrow
Hey gamers, I have friends that are interested in trying out the league to see w...
Depends what you mean by rushing lol. Really sweaty could mean 6-12 hours
fierce heron
assuming new players to osrs like a week max
brisk mauve
Also depends on the relics you grab
left spire
Totally new to OSRS, but I'd help them out
brisk mauve
I plan to get abundance, to speed up leveling as much as possible
fierce heron
also depends on what raids you want to do, not sure which one is easiest but ToA is generally considered the easiest raid to get into
brisk mauve
I can tell you this, atleast from last raid, my buddy that has never done a raid in his life was soloing ToB with minor issues the first couple times on each boss, and then he had no problem
Said he couldn't recreate it after leagues ended.
fierce heron
yea attack speed made the nilo room braindead to solo
brisk mauve
So while leagues is good for learning mechanics, it really only works if you limit how strong you make your character
sleek wraith
With reveal of 3 new relics anyone that chose EH+HF did this change your stance?
fierce heron
HF is really the only good way to do agility but i might just wait and to it at brimhaven once i get a higher xp multiplier, taking an entire relic simply for agility seems kinda eh
brisk mauve
Gonna grab HF and abundance for the infinite gp
fierce heron
Golden god: Look what they have to do to mimic a fraction of our power
fierce heron
i mean boot slot isnt an exactly easy upgrade to get to begin with
brisk mauve
Yeah and i'm going mage
fierce heron
yea you will be 50mil before you have eternals or avernics
brisk mauve
Probabyl alot more than that lol
Since i'll be getting gold for every XP drop x multiplier
fierce heron
i was meaning agility xp
brisk mauve
oh gotcha
Yeah agility is just an extra benefit lol, I'm doing it more so for gold.
In the end it'll be for agility
cause I wont be wanting to run through courses
fierce heron
yea dont need HF to get money with abundance
brisk mauve
Just extra money, since we dont know how much XP you get for running around yet
Hopefully it's a decent chunk at higher levels
fierce heron
i could see it being aglility level per tile moves
brisk mauve
I'll take it 99 xp before multipliers, then extra 2xp per xp drop turned into 2x gold at 99 would be nice
fierce heron
i wonder what the theoretical max magic strength you can get this leagues
sleek wraith
I still don’t know what I wanna do now. I do want to go melee
But I really don’t wanna grab mory again
At this point I’m going ZTA
brisk mauve
Donno, I was originally going tumeken shadow with the highest mage damage, but I was expecting masteries like the last league, so it changed everything.
sleek wraith
The range stuff looks interesting for crossbow too tho
So now I kinda wanna try that out lol
And the relics for me second guessing myself too
cosmic pumice
The melee recoil and defense build seems really cool to me
No clue if it will be good though
brisk mauve
Oh I just realized I got like 6 ancient totems
brisk mauve
No clue if it will be good though
This was my first idea, but then I was like what if it's just garbage lol
You'd need something to keep you healed up
sleek wraith
Depends how much we recoil. Will it recoil full hits? Like if I go zuk can it reflect all damage?
cosmic pumice
there's a pact that adds 1% of your total defense bonuses to all recoil damage
brisk mauve
There is one that can recoil full hits, there is another that just recoils a little damage every time you get ahitspalt
cosmic pumice
I did some math and it should be pretty easy to get it to like 15 or 16 damage
sleek wraith
At that point will need dinns for the 0 hitsplat one
brisk mauve
I thought about going full tank build. But you are pretty much required to be a dinh bulwark build to maximize
cosmic pumice
My hope is that it would apply to the unique Thorns passive, ring of recoil, and echo boots
sleek wraith
So it can proc as much as possible lol
cosmic pumice
so every hit you take is like 50+ damage recoiled back at them
cosmic pumice
Region choices seem hard though, I feel like you would really want kandarin for the ring of suffering
brisk mauve
I think with all the defence perks on the board it's like 15% chance to reflect all damage back to the attacker.
sleek wraith
Man I really don’t want to grab kandarin just for jewelry
cosmic pumice
but there doesn't seem like too much more other than ring of suffering and piety in kandarin for melee
Unless I've missed something
sleek wraith
I don’t want to be stuck with BA and monkey lap tasks
I’m kind of set on taking ZTA as my areas as melee
cosmic pumice
zeah tirannwin asgarnia?
fierce heron
but mory is goated content, dont you want to do barrows brothers?
sleek wraith
Lol
brisk mauve
Go tank build and get minion, and let minion kill everything for you while the boss kills itself from attacking you
cosmic pumice
How would echo boots work in leagues? Would you be able to get them just from colo?
fierce heron
i believe most upgrade materials just drop the item but there are a few exceptions
cosmic pumice
It's just strange to me since the echo crystal adds charges, so would you have to merge copies of the echo boots to add charges or would they still drop as crystals?
fierce heron
not echo item boots
cosmic pumice
If they are another source of recoil they would probably be mandatory for the tank build
sleek wraith
Yeah got me wondering as soon as you said echo.
Thinking yooo they bringing echo armor too???
Lol
cosmic pumice
I do wonder if there's going to be an echo tank item
Maybe an echo boss will drop a shield?
languid mauve
Can someonr help me confirm something
sleek wraith
All echo bosses were revealed and none drop a shield
Unless we get last minute surprises
languid mauve
What is an off hand thats also not a shield?
sleek wraith
Defender ?
languid mauve
Thats not for melee
sleek wraith
Book?
languid mauve
Well i saw one of demonic pacts and it immediately popped out to me
As being super broken
“ Whenever an attack deals 0 damage to you while either a two-handed shield or an off-hand is equipped, you're healed for 2 and restore 2 prayer points”
The anount of times things hit 0 on the player means u would nearly have infinite hp and pray
cosmic pumice
That's part of why I want to go for a melee tank build, could go into multi with an overhead up and recoil them all down with the special leagues thorns that trigger even on a 0
languid mauve
Wish there was a way to confirm if its items named shield or what
languid mauve
That's part of why I want to go for a melee tank build, could go into multi with...
Yeah i thought about that too but grind for door would be hell
cosmic pumice
To me it reads as "any off-hand, or a two-handed shield"
lone bloom
2 handed shield? thats dinhs bulwark and what else
cosmic pumice
Pretty sure it's just Dinh's bulwark
cosmic pumice
Do we know how many of the pacts we'll be able to take yet?
languid mauve
I assume 1 in that line u choose
Or maybe a certain amount of points
For 2nd branch
cosmic pumice
I hope there's enough to at least splash into a second combat style, since a tank melee build would have trouble reaching some bosses
languid mauve
Im just happy magic didnt get 100% flogged
But also sucks im forced down water rune oath
cosmic pumice
I went magic last league and remember it not going well
languid mauve
Which could be worse that does mean i can use ice barrage
Ive played every leagues and play with 8-12 accounts
Magic was screwed over passed 2 leagues
cosmic pumice
I wanted the 2-tick casting to go crazy with undead grasp and the blue moon set but it didn't work properly
languid mauve
I wanted the 2-tick casting to go crazy with undead grasp and the blue moon set ...
Depends on what you used it on i had a 7 second duke kill
cosmic pumice
I was finding that if the set effect procced twice in a row it just wouldn't do the free melee hit
minor summit
I do like the pacts that the Ancient spells count as regular elementals
cosmic pumice
maybe there was something i was missing though?
languid mauve
I do like the pacts that the Ancient spells count as regular elementals
I thought i saw on scritic video im watching now that u need to pact into them working that way?
languid mauve
maybe there was something i was missing though?
What staff were you using
cosmic pumice
blue moon spear so the set effect could trigger
languid mauve
Yeah im not sure if these are passive or have to be unlocked
minor summit
I thought i saw on scritic video im watching now that u need to pact into them w...
I'm sorry, I was trying to fix my original message but someone came up to me at work. Yes, I did mean that. Per pact
I think unlocked
languid mauve
I'm sorry, I was trying to fix my original message but someone came up to me at ...
Ahhh makes sense
Now that im scrolling down further it does look to be magic gets really good towards end of the line
minor summit
For instance, if I go to the tree, and click smoke it says I used 8 points
languid mauve
Water bounce literally means unkillable
minor summit
I am at a loss which combat to start with.
minor summit
Well, true but
languid mauve
Or 7
minor summit
Lol
languid mauve
Whos counting
minor summit
My wallet
languid mauve
Yeah i spent 200m on bonds a few days ago
minor summit
I may just choose 3 regions that give me 3 different echo items to play with
languid mauve
I have to wait for 100% reveal before i can start to plan
minor summit
I main a GIM, I'm not able to do that lol
languid mauve
Because relic plus region will matter which areas i go
minor summit
I never knew that
languid mauve
Neither did i someone told me a few days ago
minor summit
Aren't they over 12m now though?
languid mauve
Yeah
languid mauve
Man they havent been 8m in like 5 years lol
minor summit
🙃
languid mauve
What tier 1/2 relic u going
minor summit
I am torn. I want EH to be able to AFK at work. But, I like the idea of BG.
So, probably EH and HF or BG and Woodsman
languid mauve
I want Eh for that exact reason so i can afk all day at work and get free xp
Im thinking eh into hotfoot into evil eye
How do i access the demon pact’s interactive map thing
languid mauve
Planner?
minor summit
Go to the pinned messages look for the link that ends in "io"
That will blow your mind, it is really helpful
lone bloom
its on the osrs home page
minor summit
It's a great a site. Also, when you pick your regions, all the info shows you based on those selected regions
So you aren't cluttered with too much info
languid mauve
I got it figured out
First playthrough is water mage, 2nd playthrough is thrown weapon ranger
All because of this
Biggest issue with thrown is the acc but now also hitting 2 targets? Crazy lol
Do they count blowpipe as thrown?
old tapir
should, since its just a dart holder
minor summit
It does blowpipes are considered thrown
languid mauve
Desert with drygore sounding like a good spot for that thrown ranged range build lol
Im so fricken excited
minor summit
Lol
The crossbow build has me intrigued. Before the skill tree release, I waa going full Melee. Idfk, I may have to play 3 accounts
toxic vortex
Do they count blowpipe as thrown?
It was confirmed that yes it is
languid mauve
Yeah i saw this too and got excited
languid mauve
It was confirmed that yes it is
Thank you
Always max hit double accuracy + the one that increases damage by 70% and slows crossbow speed by 2 ticks
sleek wraith
It’s got me wanting to choose range as well.
languid mauve
U will easilly hit 100+ with heavy crossbow
sleek wraith
But idk…I may still go melee
languid mauve
U can pick em all!
sleek wraith
Welp
minor summit
Ballistae are crossbows
languid mauve
The who
minor summit
Oops
minor summit
I am at work and have to type quickly between people coming in. So I am making so many typos
minor summit
Lol
languid mauve
What is kanderins echo?
minor summit
Devil's Element and a staff
1h staff
But. I think the Devil's Element may have an additional benefit?
Or was that just the Crystal Blessing?
languid mauve
Inf ele runes and doubled npc weakness to a specc
Spell*
Do u think they will fully reveal/release stats of echo items before 14th?
minor summit
Yeah, but I remember reading one of the Echo items they brought back had an additional effect
languid mauve
Oh im not sure
minor summit
I think all the relics/echo stuff will be released beforehand. But, they may not release all the tasks until day of like before
It was the Crystal Blessing that has a new power it says
languid mauve
Hmm i just want to be able to read them all
minor summit
I so hyped for this League.
I am going to attempt to take it slow though this year. I got so burned out so quickly last year. I think Golden God did it for me
languid mauve
yeah i get that makes sense to take your time
empty pagoda
I gotta go fast since I probably can only play for a monthish of the League.
minor summit
Lol reminds me of Mario in Super Mario RPG. In the beginning when you go into Bowser's castle for the first time. He does the running in place for a moment, then runs in
languid mauve
yeah lol
atomic mist
As someone very new to pvm in osrs, I was hoping to use the upcoming league to get some pvm experience under my belt
Does the relics trivialize the difficulty of pvm too much?
minor summit
Sometimes it completely skips phases and mechanics. But, mostly it just makes it easier to learn them, depending on which content you're doing
languid mauve
As someone very new to pvm in osrs, I was hoping to use the upcoming league to g...
no matter how easy actual boss encounter gets, the experience you gain from learning mechanics will not be dulled
minor summit
Grid Master was hilarious, skipping whole phases completely
Taking down some bosses in less than 10 seconds
languid mauve
Grid Master was hilarious, skipping whole phases completely
I'll be honest... evil eye not looking the greatest compared to other teleports
minor summit
Seriously?
atomic mist
Nice! Will be the first league I actually catch. I play on and off, and somehow always played in the league pauses.. not during leagues 😛
languid mauve
just the map of alcarity alone looks insane
so many more teleports, that and the mushroom teleport
minor summit
But, all those choices, would that be menu hell?
Annoying to navigate and take too much time?
Doesn't evil eye take you right to Doom? Map wouldn't?
languid mauve
i think it depends on which regions u want to go, will determine what teleport
but right now, the mushroom teleport and map of alcarity have 2-4X more teleports than evil eye
snow patrol
very curious what the third one will be
minor summit
Honestly the map one took me by surprise
I can't think of another one that is unique enough
languid mauve
hmmmm
atomic mist
Will they reveal all the relics before league start?
minor summit
Most likely
They always have I think
We have 4 relics left. I can see them revealing either 2 more then the other 2, or 3 then 1, OR 1 each day
languid mauve
it's really tough because evil eye can teleport to chest/or up above barrows. which typically required last recall and higher level construction/magic to do that
i think it depends what that 3rd relic is, and also task list
the 3 new relics from today are super confusing
I dont really understand any of them
old tapir
soul harvest in the same tier as farmer's accord is pretty mean lol
but going and doing 70 to 99 farming would give you 3mil shards
gotta use 2.2mil of those to get matching prayer xp
throw the rest at runecrafting
good solve for the skills it affects
feelling like the only skill i don't have a grasp on now is construction
maybe just mahogany homes in hosidius
toxic vortex
theres a stonemason shop in varlamore
old tapir
issue is money
languid mauve
do we know many points we have for the demonic pacts
toxic vortex
No
old tapir
and i don't know if i'm taking hotfoot because i can't if banker's note is there
but i could also do a pact build that doesn't really need the note
but i really don't wanna mage again
urgh
outer aurora
minor summit
Okay. So, with Transmutation: You can toggle an active effect where your High Alch and Low Alch spells transform into two new spells. Alchemic Divergence: Upgrades up to 10 of a resource to a higher tier (Logs into oak, or iron into coal, etc) or Alchemic Convergence, which does the opposite, up to 10 resources from a higher tier to a lower one.
wanton arrow
Earth magic flat dps route looks pretty busted if they don't nerf it lol
old tapir
born to tbow, forced to shadow
dim crystal
What do we reckon odds are that the combat perks are different point amounts based on size of perk? Like 1 for small, 2-3 for medium and 5+ for the big end ones?
toxic vortex
Extremely slim
wanton arrow
Either way, what matters is how many we can end up getting lol
old tapir
Earth magic flat dps route looks pretty busted if they don't nerf it lol
depends on how many defence levels it is per increase
wanton arrow
depends on how many defence levels it is per increase
Yeah haha but if they leave it at per every level... >:)
languid mauve
Okay. So, with Transmutation: You can toggle an active effect where your High Al...
wait.. so technically, i can mine iron ore, with endless harvest, and hotfoot, then use transmutation to convert them up to rune bars>??
wanton arrow
wait.. so technically, i can mine iron ore, with endless harvest, and hotfoot, t...
Bars are not included only ores
languid mauve
and becausd they would be noted, they would auto recast to upgrade
ok im sad again
lol
toxic vortex
But once you get to 85 mining with endless and hotfoot you are making your own rune bars
languid mauve
but that works with bones then?
toxic vortex
but really the sweet spot for that is probably mith
wanton arrow
but that works with bones then?
Yuhh
minor summit
Superior Dragon
wanton arrow
how high would they go
Superior far as we know
minor summit
Or whatever
toxic vortex
dragon?
Bones: Bones -> Bat -> Big -> Baby Wyrm -> Baby Dragon -> Wyrm -> Dragon -> Drake -> Lava Dragon -> Hydra -> Dagannoth -> Superior Dragon
minor summit
There's a list somewhere
languid mauve
what about butlers bell thing
toxic vortex
What about it
old tapir
hespori bow might end up being my main weapon
languid mauve
mining ores 8 per minute? what ores?
minor summit
Butler's Bell will automatically gather resources for you
toxic vortex
It varies
old tapir
if its 3 ticks base and can be taken down to 2 ticks
minor summit
Variety of resources tier
toxic vortex
Its spread out across all available resources
languid mauve
do i get to pick if he mines or fishes, or is it randomly across entire list
minor summit
You only get experience per process (ores into bars) not gathering and processing is half the rate as gathering
sleek wraith
Butler idk aboutZ still on fence to get that
minor summit
No, you pick the "skill"
sleek wraith
Or the converter one
old tapir
yall think we'll be able to respec? this seems like a big system to throw at a playerbase not used to it
minor summit
Butler can either: Mine ores for you, Catch fish, chop logs, pick flax, or farm herbs
toxic vortex
yall think we'll be able to respec? this seems like a big system to throw at a p...
theres "something" in pace for it
languid mauve
transmutation into rune ore, butler into rune bars if u picked reloaded?' am i overthinking?
old tapir
i know league choices are usually permanent, but this is just.. alot
minor summit
transmutation into rune ore, butler into rune bars if u picked reloaded?' am i o...
That is possible
Also, Narth.
languid mauve
yes
minor summit
Butler works while you are offline
sleek wraith
Relics will be perm so are areas
old tapir
Relics will be perm so are areas
talking about pacts specifically
latent magnet
it looks like they're taking ideas from leagues 3, which im really excited about
leagues 3 was a cool idea with weird execution
languid mauve
thats 3840 of a resource
latent magnet
this might end up being a lot more manageable
languid mauve
for 8 hours of afk work
sleek wraith
For ones that are choosing endless and hotfoot
minor summit
And you get experience through the butler processing BUT, making butler turning logs into planks give fletching xp and unfinished pots give herblore exp
old tapir
im glad they're trying new things with the leagues, i just don't know if this is what i wanted
sleek wraith
Y’all changing it up after they revealed the 3 newest relics?
old tapir
gonna have a great time regardless, i'm sure
minor summit
Y’all changing it up after they revealed the 3 newest relics?
I am stressed!!
sleek wraith
I think I’m still wanting to go endless and hotfoot but idk lol
languid mauve
I am stressed!!
me too, but also excited
old tapir
i think you'd only take butler if you picked abundance
latent magnet
an eoc league would probably be the funniest but most interesting idea they could do
but would require insane enginework
toxic vortex
an eoc league would probably be the funniest but most interesting idea they coul...
rs3 had their own league a few months ago
manic prairie
is the answer to the clues avaiable?
toxic vortex
is the answer to the clues avaiable?
what specifically
latent magnet
rs3 had their own league a few months ago
it was good
old tapir
respect to you if you're trying to solve them yourself for fun
manic prairie
not have it given to me
old tapir
but yeah the thing at the end is just what eggman linked
languid mauve
i'm guessing u get between 15-25 pact points
old tapir
doesn't it feel like these have the wrong names
languid mauve
cost 10 to get to a final point, i'm guess maybe not enough to do a 2nd end point
sleek wraith
Watch final relic in t8 be…choosing a second tree in combat mastery
old tapir
like they should be swapped
old tapir
Watch final relic in t8 be…choosing a second tree in combat mastery
you get another 20 points to play with
languid mauve
doesn't it feel like these have the wrong names
yes you would think material being gathered would create something new of a higher tier by converging the materials
minor summit
doesn't it feel like these have the wrong names
No Divergence means a rate of flux expansion (positive)
Could also mean contraction too though
languid mauve
yes
minor summit
But, Convergence is just two or more things combining to make one.
minor summit
Makes me think reduction because with 2+ things coming together, you reduce numbers
minor summit
Divergence often moves toward infinity, which would be an increase
languid mauve
latent magnet
no bluetooth whip?
old tapir
no
minor summit
It's calculus lol
languid mauve
i'm going to wait until we get more info on pacts because without knowing our max points theres no point in planning
manic prairie
seeing a web makes me hope that a respec is at least available
minor summit
Bluetooth whip?
minor summit
seeing a web makes me hope that a respec is at least available
There's rumor of there being respec maybe involving Yama (maybe Echo) nothing at all confirmed
old tapir
the halberd thing seems annoying to minmax
old tapir
like you have to keep yourself exactly 7 tiles away to get the most out of it
languid mauve
and be forced to make another acc when i'm unhappy with build lol
minor summit
I think respec if possible...can only happen a finite number of times, or each respec requirements increase exponentially to discourage "free" respec
Lol you do you Narth. I suffer from FOMO
So, I don't really want to pay for more accounts
minor summit
I'm a broke ass GIM
latent magnet
how many mastery points do we get
languid mauve
how many mastery points do we get
thats what we don't know yet
latent magnet
im assuming like 30
minor summit
My GIM bud has progressed much faster than me and basically funds me lol
old tapir
30 or 40
latent magnet
yeah
old tapir
i think 30 is probably a bit too restrictive
minor summit
How many do they use?
old tapir
0 
minor summit
my plans dont even use 30
Can you use the tree and share it with me? There's a "share" option.
I need other people's builds to copy
latent magnet
at a glance i'd like to choose 50 caliber crossbow, bluetooth nox hally, hespori smg
minor summit
Lmfao Bluetooth is that the joke this year
latent magnet
7 tile hally
old tapir
it would be nice to know if the wildy crossbow works with water spells because that just sounds like such a fun build
just every hit you hit for like 70 and heal for 50
minor summit
What?
I can't easily play with the tree right now, so I am going off of your brains
And what I am reading makes me happy
old tapir
the wildy echo item is a crossbow that also ice barrages
if that ice barrage counts as an ice spell, you could take the node that makes ice count as water, and then get all the water goodness
minor summit
Omg
old tapir
while also having a crossbow that hits like a truck
minor summit
but we don't know if it actually works together
And that node that says "water spell hits bounce back to you healing 60% of damage" that what you mean?
old tapir
yeah
languid mauve
this build is based as of right now, it does not include any changes i'll make depending on echo items
minor summit
I'd lose my everlasting mind
manic prairie
15 points feels very restrictive, id say at least 20 points
minor summit
Have you asked that in Q&A Chrono?
minor summit
this build is based as of right now, it does not include any changes i'll make d...
Ty!
languid mauve
water has the most survivability over any other spell type
remote cove
hello friends.. casual rs3 player here, been a fan of season style leagues in mmos (cough poe), got a few questions regarding leagues c: (goal is to push as much points, no racing)
- is osrs leagues accessible to someone with little to no osrs knowledge?
- do I need a separate membership?
languid mauve
hello friends.. casual rs3 player here, been a fan of season style leagues in mm...
yes you need an osrs memebership, unless you have a jagex membership
then you would be able to access both
minor summit
Especially starting in Varlamore an unfamiliar area
languid mauve
your jagex membership will tell you if it allows osrs
old tapir
the overheals are really funny
manic prairie
https://i.imgur.com/zzXqQ9T.png
filling 2 whole branches feels wrong imo
probably 1.8 branches at most
1.5 is what im assuming
remote cove
Ok cool, I got a Jagex membership, thanks guys! I just found out about leagues recently, and looked fun watching older videos, but had 0 clue what was going on
latent magnet
https://i.imgur.com/zzXqQ9T.png
is this optimal hp regen
minor summit
probably 1.8 branches at most
Yeah, for Raging Echoes they gave us 1.666666
remote cove
looking to have fun and push points for cosmetics so all good
minor summit
looking to have fun and push points for cosmetics so all good
Keep in mind. Cosmetics for only OSRS, cannot carry over to RS3
remote cove
yessir, looking to start osrs too
manic prairie
you can seel the osrs cosmetics for bonds that unlock membership for both games tho
old tapir
Yeah, for Raging Echoes they gave us 1.666666
tbf this was far less involved
and these nodes are quite weak individually
minor summit
Chrono did you already ask in Q&A about the synergy for KBD Xbow and water spells?
True
old tapir
did not, but i doubt it would get an reliable answer
languid mauve
why would they synergizr
minor summit
why would they synergizr
We can dream 😢
The KBD crossbow shoots an ice barrage effect
languid mauve
yeah but it's not shooting ice barrage
ice barrage is a spell
only things that can cast can create ice barrage so it wont work
minor summit
I know pouting
manic prairie
i kinda wish they woulda done the 6 rows in stead of a poe web
languid mauve
wait.. how do u know crossbow has that effect
minor summit
You are making a 37 y.o. pout..hope you're happy
languid mauve
was there a reveal
manic prairie
poe web is anxiety for me
minor summit
Yes
KBD crossbow hits twice, one hit has "ice barrage-like effects"
I got all that from the Wiki
languid mauve
i'm happy with my build and hope it doesn't change much based on echo items
latent magnet
40 point wifi build
latent magnet
get free wifi anywhere you go
languid mauve
i think 40 is too much
latent magnet
30 point wifi build
minor summit
Wait, 7 tile dragon claws exists!
toxic vortex
How so
latent magnet
naw it only modifies weapons with a range of 2 or greater
so hally, scythe ( i think )
but whip is a no go
minor summit
Ohhhh
minor summit
Lmfao
latent magnet
1 x 2 = 2 sorry im sleepy lol
toxic vortex
correct
minor summit
Hold on, meme incoming
toxic vortex
so you can get 2-tile claws
latent magnet
so 2 tile claws
languid mauve
minor summit
Okay
latent magnet
languid mauve
remember, thats a different pact
toxic vortex
languid mauve
so original is 2 is doubled to 4, then 4 is increased to 7
weary drift
do we have a full map of all the nodes?
languid mauve
u can hit zulrah from relekka
languid mauve
5 tick chally if that means anything
thats the part that makes it equal
is yes u go from 4 range to 7
but ur hally gets slower
minor summit
u can hit zulrah from relekka
How many tiles is it from one point of Zulrah's arena to the other point?
I mean across, not around
latent magnet
nox hally is already 5t
languid mauve
anyone know what that extra 3 tile range would actually help with
weary drift
do we know howmany points we are getting?
languid mauve
How many tiles is it from one point of Zulrah's arena to the other point?
not 7 tile l0l
maybe 6
weary drift
zuk prob
minor summit
Holy fuck
languid mauve
6 or 7
minor summit
Damn better than wifi
latent magnet
this the shit orion is using
minor summit
Wifi can cut out and be interrupted
So, for Crystal Blessing it does say there is a "new effect" do you all think a brand new one, or new as in additional new effect?
Because, if original effect stays, that's a lot of damage!
latent magnet
tried to optimize this the best i could, assuming zeah/mory/fill
latent magnet
fill meaning idk what my 3rd region is yet
minor summit
Oh lol
latent magnet
but im locking in zeah and mory
ik its weird having two raid regions but i like tob and cox
i always pick zeah for every league
minor summit
Ugh, I wish I had access to an unrestricted computer to plan the skill tree lol
I picked Zeah for L4, was NOT disappointed, I chose the farming relic and had fun getting 50m exp in like hours
latent magnet
tried to optimize this the best i could, assuming zeah/mory/fill
my ideal build is hespori bow for regen, dhcb sniper rifle, wireless nox hally, 5G free roaming
$29.99/mo
latent magnet
tried to optimize this the best i could, assuming zeah/mory/fill
30 point build still hits +80% accuracy while getting 6t bow, 3t whip, 7 tile hally, and sniper cbow
snow patrol
I'm also kinda wondering how you get the points
latent magnet
40 point build makes the bows go crazy with +110% accuracy
minor summit
That is pretty impressive
snow patrol
same system as before or something else
minor summit
I wonder if they will borrow the Sage's Renown system from L3
latent magnet
likely the same system from leagues 5 with a twist. get a contract from yama, complete for points.
e.g; go kill jad
minor summit
Ahh more points for harder tasks
latent magnet
likely
latent magnet
at most you'll just need a zuk kill for your last mastery
leagues 5 masteries werent too hard
what made it really great was how frontloaded it was
minor summit
I essentially locked myself out of my last Combat Mastery in L5. I picked Varlamore and never had done colosseum before. Did it in Gridmaster, but I was OP and took about 30 attempts to get to wave 12
I abused Total Recall
latent magnet
i went Z/F/A but got burnt out by asgarnia so never got to echo cerb
not that it was a part of my build anyways
i just wanted it for void and gwd
minor summit
Echo Cerb was challenging. Did that on an alt for melee build
I mained VTD Range T6. Alt, I did WA(forgot) Melee T6
WAM I think?
I wanted to do WTF for the meme
smoky raft
I know I said "I'm not going to commit to anything until we learn how the pacts are unlocked" but I was bored
latent magnet
50 point wifi build with the justi dream
smoky raft
so here's my vision board for a 30 point build
latent magnet
kicking my feeties in the air dreaming about it
smoky raft
mage tank my beloved
latent magnet
mage cheese tank everything with confliction gauntlets/
limpid lava
did some one make a interactable thing for the builds already ?
smoky raft
limpid lava
ty
latent magnet
so here's my vision board for a 30 point build
im gonna puke
would laugh if its 1 min hit per 10 defense
1 min per 5 would make this nutty
smoky raft
min hit and max hit are both great but flat damage is just straight up "roll your damage and then add this number"
it's notably more dps than either +min or +max
smoky raft
min hit and max hit are both great but flat damage is just straight up "roll you...
it's also added per hitsplat so twinflame gets it twice
latent magnet
i thought flat damage is effectively min hit
wait no its better
min hit is just clamp
smoky raft
it's better
smoky raft
flat damage is basically shifting all your damage numbers up by X
latent magnet
flat damage can increase min hits yeah
aw damn i would need asgarnia for this
idk if thats worth now
i wonder how karils crossbow will go
legit worse than an rcb
or wait
i forgot about echo ggs
50% chance of hitting twice with one attack. The second hit will deal half the damage of the first hit.
that
sounds very good with the max hit relic
i will become sliske's wight
drifting quail
latent magnet
30 point wifi build
karils w/ gloves of damned
-crossbow always maxes
-crossbow almost never misses
-50% chance to deal 50% of max hit
-dhcb/rcb probably better who knows
whip & noxious hally w/ oathplate
-7 tile wifi distance on hally
-2 tile 3 tick whip
trusti justi hespi smg
-tank shit and heal
-nothing bad ever happens
molten gust
Que the power pole extend or Extend! Hōzukimaru!
molten gust
I think they are thinking of the necklace since the gloves are not in this one from what we have seen.
shadow badger
We are sure Hespori Echo Bow heals?
Heal and prayer restore
molten gust
Unless it was confirmed by mods. Its mostly a decent guess since it has stones which show both the hp and prayer icons on them in the first image of the bow.
shadow badger
If a blindbag effect triggers another blindbag effect, does it occur with the same weapon or can it proc another weapon?
smoky raft
it was in the reveal tweet
molten gust
If a blindbag effect triggers another blindbag effect, does it occur with the sa...
Makes me think of the echo hits you could have last leagues.
old tapir
If a blindbag effect triggers another blindbag effect, does it occur with the sa...
some folks were theorizing that cuarged and uncharged scythes with different ornament kits all counted as different weapons
shadow badger
some folks were theorizing that cuarged and uncharged scythes with different orn...
Only time will tell...
old tapir
so you equip one scythe, and then have the other 5 scythes in your inventory
and it just goes crazy
but needing 6 scythes and 2 of each ornament kit from tob is a significant grind
shadow badger
I'm not picking mory so scythe kits are off the table
old tapir
yeah you need mory to do it
even though scythe is getable from all raids you need the kits
assuming they even work
would be hilarious
molten gust
If going melee def want mory. If just for nox. Heh.
old tapir
you can probably settle for crystal hally too if you're going down that path
might even be better than nox
since it has a spec
shadow badger
you can probably settle for crystal hally too if you're going down that path
Chally needs tiranwnn and kandarin
2 regions for 1 wep
old tapir
oh well
molten gust
Kandarin just being a little turd sneaking in there
old tapir
sure is
manic prairie
would echo hits make a double hit hit twice?
would echo hits have double chance at a second echo?
old tapir
multiple hits roll echo chances individually
smoky raft
official or community?
community, we don't REALLY know how it works yet either so any builds are just speculation
but here:
https://www.osrsleaguescountdown.io/tree
ebon hearth
ah okay
manic prairie
im hoping for 120 points as a starter :)
molten gust
At most we know is there is an option to respec. How much that costs and how many times you can do it is unknown.