leagues-general

[tranquil bronze]

Let's be honest only one pick 😆

[cyan shale]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/954388847469404170/1372966648981753876/squirtlespin-4x.gif

[old tapir]

depends on if there's something similar to golden god later in the relics

but yeah if there isn't, only one pick

[tranquil bronze]

Golden god was good, but dont need only good if playing like 2 weeks. Game mode 3 months.

Also with construction on last relic would be quick gp but would offset price.

[teal creek]

Agree barbing is the only right choice

[tranquil bronze]

More info out as blurred in video

[weak current]

||"By word decreed unspoken yet eternally binding, inscribed not in ink but in the weight of judgment itself, and carried upon the unseen currents that flow between realms both mortal and profane, it has been determined by the will and unassailable authority of Yama, sovereign arbiter of fate, warden of thresholds, and keeper of all final reckoning that you, who now stand at the precipice of forbidden knowledge, have not, in this moment, been found sufficient in merit, fortitude, nor essence to be entrusted with the veiled and perilous contents of the Demonic Pacts."||
Spoiler in ABOVE text

[edgy dune]

Barb is the one that jumps out to me cause free agility xp pog but I’m not sure it’s as clear cut as it seems. If there’s no alch relic abundance could be a banger

[short summit]

Abundance would go infinite with any buyable skills I suppose? Fletching being the most obvious

[maiden cliff]

Endlest Harvest = If you are gonna spend alot of time afk'ing at work, while making dinner, etc
Barbarian Gathering = way better if you are actively playing, and still decent for short afk sessions.
Abundance = Seems more like a speedrunner relic, for the youtuber who have to post the "I am rank 1 in leagues" video

[shell quarry]

Spoiler for hidden echo text part of the blog

||there were twelve in a bed and the [redacted] said roll over roll overso they all rolled over and one fell out there were eleven in a bed and the [redacted] said roll over roll over so they all rolled over and one fell out there were ten in a bed and the [redacted] said roll over roll over so they all rolled over and one fell out then nine then eight then seven then six then five then four then three but they didn't come back||

[strange solstice]

probably just means 12 echo bosses

[old tapir]

to me that means either 3 of the old 12 remain or 3 of them were cut for new ones

[hoary crag]

i used a substition translation and got this for the echo text: ||“Hear me, hear me, heed me all who stand before the veil, within and beyond the known. I am the hidden hand that guides the unseen currents between realms.

In shadow and silence I remain, yet all paths bend toward my design. None who seek the forbidden shall pass unchanged, and none who trespass shall leave unmarked.

Hear me again: the gate is closed, the path is sealed, and the knowledge you pursue is not meant for those who are unworthy. Turn back while you still remain whole. ||

[old tapir]

and you might say there wasn't 12 bosses last league, but technically there was if you count multibosses
kq, cerb, kbd, dusk, dawn, rex, prime, supreme, thermy, hunleff, hespori, sol

[strange solstice]

hmm maybe dks cut/replaced?

dks were a fun echo boss tbf

[short summit]

Replacing only dks would be kinda cheap ngl

[hoary crag]

we deserve echo kraken

[fallen schooner]

what's some popular area/content that we won't have access to because of no Misthalin?
stuff that comes to mind:

• Scurrius
• Zombie Axe
• Fossil Island (no Volcanic mine for Dragon Pickaxe)
• no guaranteed Essence Mine access
• Stronghold of Security
• RFD chest

[south gorge]

no birdhouse runs or underwater agility/thieving or seaweed farming

no herbi

no Sire

probably no tormented demons and tears of Guthix?

[hoary crag]

we should have sire because of abyss and fairy ring access

[cold prawn]

Players can enter the Ancient Guthixian Temple from the Chasm of Tears without While Guthix Sleeps completed

Says in the post that it will be possible

[south gorge]

did they also say how we'll get Siverlight? is Yama or someone in the lair giving it to us similar to the dramen staff?

[cold prawn]

Items that drop as components that require multiple regions to create a usable item will drop as the finished item

Also from the post

[hoary crag]

i expect the weapon store in civitas to sell it

[coral basin]

All these tier 1 relics seem pretty good to me

[manic prairie]

endless harvest seems sorta bad to me because its limited to 3 skills

but still strong

[vapid silo]

weird one but Rune Essence mine unless you take Kandarin

[manic prairie]

barbarian seems the best mainly because bonus combat xp and agility xp

[vapid silo]

also no imbues from Soul Wars, which Kandarin also solves 👀

[coral basin]

It means you have essentially infinite resources though because nothing ever depletes

[manic prairie]

moritania has the special essence mine

[fallen schooner]

I omitted Soul Wars because I assumed they'll let us either Minigame Teleport there or Fairy Ring

[south gorge]

how about GOTR? isn't that only accessible from Misthalin?

[manic prairie]

i hope soul wars isnt in

[vapid silo]

lowkey hope no Soul Wars, don't like doing it every league lol

[coral basin]

They could also maybe just put the soul wars imbues into nightmare zone

[manic prairie]

echo items probably kill imbues

[fringe bronze]

hey guys, anyone here tried cracking the cypher on the new Leagues announcement?

I think I might have it

[manic prairie]

is it alt codes?

[fringe bronze]

I think

[manic prairie]

i hope its not alt codes

thats so many alt codes

[fringe bronze]

i have the text translated, it's grouped in 5's, I just don't know if I'm allowed to copy paste it here

its about the demonic pacts

[coral basin]

Some people already have and spoilered it

[fringe bronze]

ohh nice! is it in this chat? I wanna check if mine is the same as theirs

[toxic vortex]

you'd probably have to break it up in to multiple posts

[fringe bronze]

somebody beat me to it apparently, they have my exact answer 👀

[coral basin]

Yeah

#unemployedpower

[fringe bronze]

gotta be unemployed for the hours I spent into this game

[hoary crag]

the first one is alt codes

[fringe bronze]

the echo boss & rewards one has me stumped

[coral basin]

They cracked the echo text too i think

[manic prairie]

the tldr from the echo boss text is 3 bosses are changed or 3 bosses are the same

its vague

[fringe bronze]

hmm, I'm having a hard time seeing it, could you tell me what gave you that idea?

[vapid silo]

just remembered Lunar Isle dungeon also has a rune essence rock

might end up mattering in some selections

[fringe bronze]

this is gonna be my first leagues so I wish I knew what all this meant

[south gorge]

Just been told on Faux's stream that the post is actually wrong and we won't be able to do that...

[vapid silo]

yeah Husky confirmed on Leagues discord that TDs can't be accessed

[south gorge]

so no demonbane... ouch

[toxic vortex]

lame

time to mpreg react husky

[high moth]

#leagues-vi-faq I dont even see this channel

[toxic vortex]

probably because it doesn't exist here

but there is #leagues-vi-faq

[high moth]

"As we begin to reveal more and more information, we'll try to gather the most frequently asked questions and update them here. So keep an eye on this section for frequent updates!

Head on over to the official OSRS Discord and add your question into the #leagues-vi-faq channel!"

[toxic vortex]

I mean I get that

But they also said that you'd be able to access the guthixian temple in the blog post

and then Husky came back and said that was wrong

[high moth]

I was trying to find huskys comment in here

but havent seen it

[toxic vortex]

I think it was on the reddit post

[high moth]

got it.

ty

[toxic vortex]

But its possible the channel does exist, just not enabled

Well that is interesting

[toxic vortex]

testing

[vapid silo]

how weird lol

[toxic vortex]

Shame on you I guess

you obviously did something to piss off discord

[vapid silo]

I can't tag myself even

[manic prairie]

@deft sigil @toxic vortex the question wasnt if there was going to be sailing, was if the fairy rings would be allowed

[toxic vortex]

Pretty sure all of the sailing content will not be in

[stone basin]

You reckon that means another way to get demon babe

Bane*

[vapid silo]

Could be a combat mastery for it or something

Combat mastery passives were also a thing

[old tapir]

barehanded mining looks quite silly

[runic fjord]

reckon they might try to get rid of golden god since they added abundance?

[edgy dune]

I reckon there’s a good chance it gets split up

It’s had its time

[toxic vortex]

Unknown

We've had multiple GP sources from relics in the past

And GG has been a very popular relic

@vapid silo testing

Oh good

[vapid silo]

😁

[toxic vortex]

@high moth the faq channel has been corrected

#leagues-vi-faq

[toxic vortex]

What was it

[vapid silo]

Just incorrect permissions I think

[coral basin]

Ok heres my pitch for a replacement to golden god: new relic that turns high/low alch into a combat spell and you throw items at enemies

[wintry veldt]

lol rude:

By decree unspoken yet eternally binding, inscribed not in ink but in the weight of judgment itself, and carried upon the unseen currents that flow between realms both mortal and profane, it has been determined by the will and unassailable authority of Yama, sovereign arbiter of fate, warden of thresholds, and keeper of all final reckonings, that you, who now stand at the precipice of forbidden knowledge, have not, in this moment, been found sufficient in merit, fortitude, nor essence to be entrusted with the veiled and perilous contents of the Demonic Pacts.

[wintry veldt]

is the new T1 relic not basically golden god?

[coral basin]

Yeah

[wintry veldt]

I guess it's a lot slower

[coral basin]

Its basically "ok your early game is just solved"

[wintry veldt]

true for barb relic as well tbh

[coral basin]

The cash will be nice with abundance

But im gonna barb it up i think

It will definitely depend on what the other relics are

[wintry veldt]

abundance is faster points in general, so probably faster everything else with earlier relics/regions

but barb seems like its cooler and more fun

idk which I want to do on my first account

I'm guessing they aren't doing a combat tree..? this time, that could be really interesting.

I say that bc the 1.5x combat stats at T3

Well call me impressed, this will be a super unique and fun league

[coral basin]

Varlamore is gonna be super fun to mess around in, too. I think it was accessible last leagues, right?

[vast epoch]

Yup

[toxic vortex]

barb relic will perform better at higher levels

because of the crystal tools + 50% chance to success when you fail

also has the destroy option for resources

[keen canyon]

where can i see the answers to the post they did?

like the echo boss's and all the jibrish text

[vestal shuttle]

has anyone translated the mojibake?

[solemn star]

Can someone explain abundance to me

I cant tell if they mean a drop of 100 is +2 equaling 102 xp or if its each xp is +2 meaning 100 is 300 xp

[vestal shuttle]

if so, what's the encoding?

I know how to recognize it but not what to do with it lol

[wintry veldt]

scroll up

[wintry veldt]

scroll up

[vestal shuttle]

What was the key?

[toxic vortex]

I found the post from him, it was in the leagues disc: #636001942773956609 message

[keen canyon]

@wintry veldtwant to see the echo boss's

dont really care about that jbirish lol

[mellow iris]

Anyone know where Krystilia will be located, since she’s referenced in the Wilderness section of the blog?

[wintry veldt]

oh the code was blocked

[wintry veldt]

Let me try again:

1. text = text.encode('latin1', errors='ignore').decode('utf-8', errors='ignore')
2. text = ''.join(c for c in text if unicodedata.category(c) != 'Mn')

1-1 outputs what I posted above

[pseudo gulch]

Ah man I cant post links

[wintry veldt]

oh, sec

[keen canyon]

ty sir

[wintry veldt]

||There were twelve in a bed and the [REDACTED] said roll over roll over
So they all rolled over and one fell out||

||There were eleven in a bed and the [REDACTED] said roll over roll over
So they all rolled over and one fell out||

||There were ten in a bed and the [REDACTED] said roll over roll over
So they all rolled over and one fell out||

||Then nine, then eight, then seven, then six, then five, then four, then three
But they didn’t come back||

explanation/key
||Convert symbols to digits using the UK shifted number row, then split the digits into 1–26 letter values.||

[keen canyon]

tyty

wtf is this

[wintry veldt]

riffing on the nursery rhyme “There were ten in the bed…”

[keen canyon]

was sure i will see echo boss's

[blissful fiber]

So like
People are really deciding on the viability of equilibrium purely based on golden god being present or not?

[wintry veldt]

gotta be ferox?

[mellow iris]

I could see that, yeah

[wintry veldt]

I think I'm gonna go for Abundance on my first account and just grind it all out

the +10 is such a huge speed-up when you get to later levels for instance in slayer/crafting/agility/etc

[blissful fiber]

The thing that bother me a bit

That +10 lose its value once you reach 90

Outside of the few stuff that scale past 99

[wintry veldt]

1. you're just getting gold at that point
2. the speed-ups from the other relics are restricted to a few skills that are mostly afk-able

oooooooh, fossil island

that's gone huh

so no underwater chests

[vestal shuttle]

neat

[wintry veldt]

it wouldn't let me paste python in code quotes e.e

[blissful fiber]

fossil island is at sea, its not part of mishtalin

(let me dream)

[wintry veldt]

which region will get you to fossil island again? AHEM

[blissful fiber]

we can surely get a digsite pendant at the digsite which... is... in mishtalin...

[wintry veldt]

since u can't tp to digsite with digsite pendant

[blissful fiber]

[wintry veldt]

no Edgeville, Draynor, varrock, lumb, barb village, pub, champion's guild, ava's

ooh ava's I gotta add that to my theory post

I wonder if they just turn vorkath into echo boss and reward is ava's (or replace ranged back-slot at col. idk)

either ava's is at the archery shop, or they're doing a relic that makes it moot

[blissful fiber]

we have coloseum doe

by extension that make ava redundant

[wintry veldt]

I guess

convenient that we still get Zanaris though!

[valid dock]

I think avas will be the item added to arcuani's archery supplies

[wintry veldt]

I wonder what the task list is gonna look like for varlamore?

gotta be WAY more detailed than last league

[unique pine]

Avas wont be very useful in this leagues though, early range combat mastery saves ammo and everyone can do colo for quiver

Dorgeshuun crossbow is likely, since it's a useful early range weapon

[hexed sluice]

Are we gonna get daily reveals from now on?

[hazy bluff]

Avas will drop from vorkath too and colo quiver will also have ava’s effect without having to talk to the npc in draynor manor

[wintry veldt]

https://discord.com/channels/324132423636090880/1485743710393335979

[wintry veldt]

Since there isn't a big calendar graphic this time, and since they didn't start 28 or 30 days before, I'm guessing it's moreso going to be on a non daily schedule

but who knows?

[minor summit]

They are going mostly with lore this time, so we have to abide by Yama's rules

[toxic vortex]

#1460597526498377985 message

[minor summit]

What is this channel? It says #unknown for me

[toxic vortex]

Its in a different server

the leagues server

[minor summit]

Damn I think I'm banned from that server, I have zero clue why, but I can't access it, or find a way to appeal it.

I think maybe because I was part of that certain emoji spam thing. Idk.

[toxic vortex]

yeah if that doesn't take you to the channel then you probably are

ah yes

the infamous husky mpreg reactions

[minor summit]

Lmfao yes

Tbf, it was hilarious

[toxic vortex]

🫃

It was

[minor summit]

☝️

Do you know any way to appeal the ban or get in touch with moderators?

[cyan shale]

#1391372405066301550 #support-centre

Oh for the leagues server. My b ignore that above

[toxic vortex]

Chardo said you can send him a dm

hes in this server

[cyan shale]

How great is DrButt

[toxic vortex]

Its almost like I've done this before

[cyan shale]

Right?? :p

[summer moss]

Is abundance actually going to be any gold?

Any goood*?

It seems so mediocre

[toxic vortex]

Eh

[minor summit]

Yo, you're an absolute legend! Thank you!!

[sleek wraith]

only way i see myself choosing abundance is if we dont get relic where we can high alch and 50% of not using the item isnt a thing. other than that ill probably be choosing barbarian one since it seems fastest way to get resources or will choose endless harvest for the afk aspect

[minor summit]

Barbarian is pretty dope sounding. Because, if we get a good teleport relic (good chance we will), the Knapsack holds up to 5 inventories of resources, who cares if we have to bank? Most early game resources are not far from banks, and by the time we get to higher resource content, we probably will have a Total Recall/Baker's Note relic (or something similar)

[vestal shuttle]

i just wanna rip rocks outta the ground with my bare hands

[sleek wraith]

10/10 league reward should give us ability to change animation of pickaxe to this

[manic prairie]

i dont know why i dont remember league rewards

have they even been announced?

looked it up

[vestal shuttle]

I would literally use PTO to guarantee I get this

[manic prairie]

i dont care for most of them .-.

[rocky basin]

Looking so far like we're getting some diff relics this time around, bit of a refresh going

At least based on the tier 1 picks anyways

Sort of split the perks from the echo tools into two camps (crystal tool quality vs teleporting items to bank). The other option will probably be a worst solve for money than a later relic imo

With the first two though the fact you get the buffs for everything and not just mining OR fishing/hunting OR woodcutting is really nice, makes those two look pretty good

[tacit oyster]

t1 options are active gathering, afk gathering or slightly worse active gathering but small buff to xp in all skills and +10 buff to all non-combat to make training them easier while giving passive gp

abundance will give you 26m gp every 99 you get pretty much

[rocky basin]

Yeah which would be great early game but I think gold will have a better solve later, but time will tell ofc

[tacit oyster]

it all really depends on what tasks there will be for each region

and ofcourse what other relics will give you

if you just want t1 relic for gathering xp and resources then endless harvest is always best

only time barbarian gathering is better xp is if you are tick manipulating at a high tier resource but those will almost always have long respawn times

[vapid silo]

I don't remember which league it was introduce in, but at some point they significantly sped up resource respawn times. would be nice to know if that stays in for this one

like runite ores were respawning faster than main game coal

[tacit oyster]

it was in leagues 5, but you still had pretty long downtime on stuff like runite rocks

without echo pickaxe saving rock from depleting you would have down time on 3 runite rock spots

[vapid silo]

I had echo pick yeah

wonder if infernal tools come back

[tacit oyster]

at lower tier resources endless harvest is actually the best xp/h when tick manipulating since it gives 2x xp

[edgy dune]

I think they just respawn as if the world is full no?

So it’s still a chunk of downtime

[deft plover]

As a guy who's gonna play actively, but not enough to max points or whatever, abundance would be the best choice for tier 1 leagues relic right?

[tacit oyster]

if there are not that many xp tasks post 99 then abundance could let you do level requirement tasks faster with the +10 boost and gives enough gp for everything except most expensive construction methods

[vapid silo]

I tend to care quite a bit about post-99 tasks so abundance loses a lot of value to me. if you don't do those it's pretty decent though

if the equilibrium portion was unnerfed I'd consider it, but it's quite a bit weaker than equilibrium was

[timber quest]

I've been tryna think of where that +2 xp from abundance will come in really nice, bone shards, crafting bolt tips and fletching arrows shafts is what I have so far

[tacit oyster]

the xp part doesnt really do much outside early leveling and very specific things like making mastering mixology paste

[vapid silo]

training on shared style to proc it 4 times each hit
it also in general buffs more the lower resource tier training methods that are already pretty good like iron rocks for mining or trouts for fishing
it triggers each time you craft runes, so you can technically trigger it on each essence separately during RC

but yeah I used eqilibrium last league and it was nice with those methods, but now it's like 1/4 as effective at max, so probably not worth targeting those methods specifically

there was a whole thread of methods for it on the leagues discord last time but it's been archived by now I think

[stone basin]

=== FISHING (XP/hr) ===
Leaping (Trout/Salmon/Sturgeon) EH: 2.21M | BG: 1.41M
Trout/Salmon EH: 1.92M | BG: 1.19M
Monkfish EH: 1.64M | BG: 1.56M
Tuna/Swordfish EH: 1.37M | BG: 1.59M
Lobster EH: 1.30M | BG: 1.19M
Shark EH: 0.68M | BG: 1.28M
Anglerfish EH: 0.67M | BG: 1.61M

=== MINING (XP/hr) ===
Granite EH: 2.73M | BG: 2.31M
Sandstone EH: 2.61M | BG: 1.89M
Iron EH: 2.24M | BG: 1.23M
Silver EH: 2.01M | BG: 1.05M
Mithril EH: 1.02M | BG: 1.68M
Adamantite EH: 0.62M | BG: 1.83M
Runite EH: 0.59M | BG: 2.35M
Amethyst EH: 0.66M | BG: 4.37M

=== WOODCUTTING (XP/hr) ===
Teak EH: 2.63M | BG: 1.82M
Mahogany EH: 2.09M | BG: 2.08M
Maple EH: 1.65M | BG: 1.66M
Willow EH: 2.23M | BG: 1.43M
Yew EH: 1.48M | BG: 2.52M
Magic EH: 1.03M | BG: 3.29M
Redwood EH: 1.57M | BG: 5.13M

Some preliminary XP RATES per hour @ 99 with rune tools for EH with x16 xp rates ^_^

[edgy dune]

Are these the mining rates that aren’t quite accurate for BG cause depletion + competition? Redwood xp rates look tasty though

[stone basin]

Yeah doesn’t account for downtime

So definitely a bit lower

Still on the fence between the afker life or barbarian

Though I think the passive agility and strength 99 sounds neat

[edgy dune]

Yeah it probably depends how much you can actively play ig. I think BG is probably best for max though

Being able to just skip the ability grind seems good

[stone basin]

Yeahh

It basically is a buffed agility boots

So can actually wear treads

[tacit oyster]

it only gives 10% of the xp you gain from wc, mining and fishing so it wont have that big effect unless you do all to 50m

like 4m agility xp from 99 wc, mining and fishing

[stone basin]

4m from all 9?

3*

Or each

[tacit oyster]

1.3m agility xp per 99

[stone basin]

):

[edgy dune]

4m skips you to 90 agility tho

So basically skips to fastest xp rates for agil

[tacit oyster]

if there is no other agility training relic and you want to max easier then it is good

[vapid silo]

this is assuming no tick manip for EH?

[tacit oyster]

no tick manip woodcutting rates at least for EH

[gilded epoch]

+10 on every non combat sounds very tasty too though

Can hit milestones a lot faster

[edgy dune]

https://tenor.com/view/umbrella-academy-five-vanya-gif-18069934

[edgy dune]

You’re not wrong

[timber quest]

What's the calcs for this?

[gilded epoch]

https://tenor.com/view/holding-down-the-fort-cat-gif-13479341940513108851

[stone basin]

https://discord.com/channels/636001942279159830/1485967597370474536

[timber quest]

Tastyyyy ty

[heavy kernel]

Will leagues teasers be posted here?

[toxic vortex]

The post will be shared to the #game-news channel

If you want to get a ping for it, go to #assign-roles and get the game news role

@heavy kernel

[heavy kernel]

Legend

[twilit hollow]

I'm thinking of taking wilderness as a region since I never go there. In previous leagues did the bosses have private instances? Just curious about competition over them

[toxic vortex]

i feel like they did but im not 100% sure

[cyan shale]

OSRS Leagues Server

[cyan shale]

[wary falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/salute-cat-cute-yessir-gif-17449845613192073437

[coral basin]

Go my minion!

[timber quest]

Another relic that has a toggle for noting items

.. Maybe no bankers note this year? 👀

[iron gust]

Have they said if the abundance plus 10 levels will work for the 99’ing a skill task? I assume it would but idk

As in do you really only need to get like 4.8m xp (level 89) to finish the task

[gentle rune]

So minions can stack forever

[edgy dune]

It’s probably a +10 boost like pots n stuff so I’d be surprised?

[toxic vortex]

previous leagues/relics it did not work this way

its basically just a permanent stat boost on the upper number

[iron gust]

Yea I wasn’t thinking about that it’s a boost

[toxic vortex]

you still need to get lvl 99

[iron gust]

Would have been a great points rusher relic but I just can’t see any reason to pick it now

[toxic vortex]

I mean it still is because it allows you to do some of the higher tier tasks much sooner

@clear ice #leagues-vi-faq message - do you mean a max cap for consuming the zammy items to increase the max hit?

[quick sigil]

the team really doesnt spell check the blog posts. Dairy tasks and Ava’s devices and all 😄

[minor summit]

https://tenor.com/view/let-me-in-eric-andre-wanna-come-in-gif-13730108

[tranquil nimbus]

Whats the best combat relic pick for this year's league

[toxic vortex]

Theres no way anyone can have an opinion on that because we know nothing about how it will all work

[tacit oyster]

Range since there is going to be 100% accuracy once again for sure

[vapid silo]

I kinda want 100% accuracy again but maybe on a different style this time

[toxic vortex]

It hasn't been confirmed there will be one or not

[sleek wraith]

I really don’t wanna choose range again but if it’s only relic with 100% accuracy then it’s hard to pass up.

[minor summit]

Was melee ever god tier during any league? Mage was during L4, L5 was Range

[sleek wraith]

Yeah it was good the first league when it was twisted league. No range weapon except for rcb then.

Until you got tbow

[toxic vortex]

Melee has never been bad

But range or mage have usually been better

[tropic mantle]

melee was awful when berserker was a relic

[toxic vortex]

@sleek wraith I think I saw someone on the leagues discord calculate the minion DPS at a little over 6

When you max it out

And what do you mean by the 'stack'

If you mean the max hit thing by sacrificing zammy items, no that was confirmed to be permanent

[sleek wraith]

If it’s 6 then it’s no different than the minion relic from last league except now we have to sacrifice zammy items to make it as strong as last leagues minion relic.

[toxic vortex]

Minion has a higher max hit by 7, is one tick faster

[sleek wraith]

Yeah idk. I still don’t think it’s worth it depending what the other one or two relics will be of tier 8.

Like if it’s competing with the immortal relic again then I’ll take the immortal one 100% lol

[toxic vortex]

It's two other choices

[toxic vortex]

This was the problem in t8 last time

[manic prairie]

Is the thrall relic that strong, doesn seem insane to me

As a last tier

It’s an average of 6 damage on 3/4 ticks?

Auto pickup kinda good but feels like small bonus in dps

[slow yoke]

3-20 = avg 11.5dmg/3 tick
Should have the items or close to having items to upgrade already if taking it

[manic prairie]

Especially since I assume the stone of jas relic is returning

Doesn’t it hit from a 3-10?

[slow yoke]

3-10 at base, but you can upgrade it to 3-20 with 5 zamorak equippable items.

[toxic vortex]

Depending on region picks, 5 zammy items can be pretty easy

[manic prairie]

depending on how many clues you do

also zamorak monks are in 3 regions

wildy chaos temple, wildy ditch chaos temple, uiiai altar

[molten gust]

I do hope they don’t have Yama’s drops like they were in gridmaster. You basically got a dos every kill. The only time I got oathplate shards was from a contract for them. Sure am fine with them being more common but yeah…

[toxic vortex]

Yeah I hope they fix that

[minor summit]

I think I was over 400kc for that stupid tile. I am not an experienced pvm'er, not even close to the end game content on main game, so I was needing that Yama drop for Last Stand to take down Sol.

[blissful fiber]

Ur much weaker in league than in gridmaster

Gridmaster was cracked everything

Especially with the multipliers and drop rates

And being able to equip all relics basically

[molten gust]

I meant drops. During gridmaster you only got dos for every kill unless you rolled a unique. Like it was impossible to get anything else. Thats the part I hope is fixed to not happen.

[blissful fiber]

I meant weaker as a whole

Combat and drop rates

[naive valley]

Am I dumb but is royal titans going to be in asgarnia? Didn't really see them in the blog for leagues 6 or am I blind also

[naive valley]

Oh didn't see that one but also mainly because the uniques in it aren't affected by the drop modifier

[tropic mantle]

yea that part surprises me as well

probably just missed it

[naive valley]

Thank you!

[stone basin]

I wonder if there’s any nice looking image map showing what each region has, similar to past leagues

[toxic vortex]

Theres always drops that are missed in the initial drop rate stuff

[timber quest]

Dude in the teaser has defenders on and it makes me wonder if that's what's been added to the blacksmith

Does it say on any blog that avernic hilt/defender is dropped?

[tropic mantle]

yeah

[timber quest]

Either that or this dude has taken K, W, A

[tropic mantle]

Items that drop as components that require multiple regions to create a usable item will drop as the finished item

[timber quest]

Oh yeah but I mean specically the avernic

I'll do some digging :p

[tropic mantle]

why would it be different for the avernic...?

besides, thats how it was last league

[timber quest]

Cuz I'm pondering if defenders are what have been added to the blacksmiths

[hasty salmon]

if youre gonna go wildy do you guys think abundance would be overkill?

[timber quest]

If you're going abundance for the cash then ye maybe, wildy is so good for resources

[hasty salmon]

thats what im thinking, like you already stack gp from revs, but the others just sound eh in comparison

[toxic vortex]

I'd be really shocked if they added defenders

[timber quest]

Yeah the more I ponder the more I lose confidence in the theory

[toxic vortex]

Defenders are at least a significant draw for asg

[timber quest]

Exactly that, the region doesn't seem to have a lot going for it xd

Here's a shitpost I made 2 days ago actually xD

[toxic vortex]

I like the slayer relic

[timber quest]

50% chance to spawn another super is both funny and awesome

Having to go get a task, opposed to last year where you were always on task, could make a potential grimoire relic more powerful for the quick change to lunar - npc contact

[blissful fiber]

i thought you were always on task in league, no?

oh wait im an idiot, u cant get slayer points without actual tasks

[timber quest]

Ye they nerfed it from last year, which is a shame imo

The shop was free so you didn't need em

It's free again this year so I assume any points will just be used to skip until you get something you want

[blissful fiber]

well, at least its good to know its a relic i can skip

(I hate slayer)

[toxic vortex]

Yeah that part is a bit of a nerf

but the other added stuff brings it back up

Also opens up slayer relic + void equipment

[timber quest]

Oo and moons gear actually good point

[toxic vortex]

You'd still need to take TKA to get elite void

But even just regular void in theory would be pretty strong

[timber quest]

Yee normal void with the right combat masteries and slayer helm is definitely something I'm gonna keep my eye on routing in, depending on what the other reveals give us

[toxic vortex]

Ive always taken the slayer relic, because slayer is cool and clues are lame

[timber quest]

There's a lotta points in clues tho

I also took slayer over clues last year tho xD

[toxic vortex]

Yeah but the slayer relic now guarantees 1-3 elites from each superior

[timber quest]

And then a 50% chance to spawn another and start the cycle again pogggg

[toxic vortex]

b2b2b2b2b2b2b2b2b

it'll happen

[timber quest]

That's so fun, gg jagex

Thank god aquanites and their terrifying supe won't be available tbh xD

There's gonna be some crazy logs of 15 rings 0 hearts

[toxic vortex]

That and clue rates are typically buffed for skilling activities too

Its not hard to get clue points without the clue relic, although the clue relic does make it noticably faster

But they've also been working on balancing the points between regions this league, so I wonder if maybe they are trying to even out the relics for clues this time around

[timber quest]

Iirc it was the 100% minimum steps that was appealing from last year

[toxic vortex]

And the teleport thing

[timber quest]

That's an interesting thought

[tacit oyster]

superior that punishes keeping protection prayer up for long is funny though

[timber quest]

Extremely

Until I'm in Lumbridge xD

[toxic vortex]

this was the RE clue relic

[timber quest]

Ohh yeah the buff to rollls were nice too

[toxic vortex]

And the emote requirement removal

That was big

[timber quest]

True true

[toxic vortex]

This was the entire tier that had the slayer relic last year, interestingly slayer relic was t5 last year

so it will be interesting to see what falls to t5 this year

[timber quest]

What's the tier with only 2 choices t7?

I'll go look

[toxic vortex]

t7 this year

[timber quest]

Ye

[toxic vortex]

t7 is the only tier with 2 relics

[timber quest]

Surely bnote vs something

[toxic vortex]

well you'd be on the right path, but last year bn/recall was t6

and that was just 2 relics in t6

but they'd have to make some significant changes to both of those to make them t7 relics

[timber quest]

I'm not confident in this thought but I do wonder, with 2 of the relics giving a toggle for noted drops, if we will see bn this year

[toxic vortex]

This was t7 last year

[tropic mantle]

theres a toggle for noted drops?

[latent magnet]

Bank relics at t7 would feel horrible

It should be t6

Or t5

Leagues v was so good because it front loaded so much stuff and made progression feel great

[latent magnet]

This was a good t7, although Pocket Kingdom really fell flat

If Pocket Kingdom had more going for it, it'd be a solid tier

[toxic vortex]

there is on endless harvest

BG has a toggle to destroy the item you gather

[toxic vortex]

I agree, BN/recall at t7 would have to be something bonkers

Even by leagues standards

[latent magnet]

It has to be t5/6 because there isn't much they can change to make it feel like a t7

[toxic vortex]

I'm guessing t5 because slayer relic is in t6

[latent magnet]

The only things they could change are like, making bankers note auto heal you (weird) or removing all restrictions from recall (very hard)

[toxic vortex]

Yeah I agree

[latent magnet]

Moving grimoire and overgrown down a tier to 6,and recall + bankers to 5,would be a cool move

[toxic vortex]

I just can't see banker+recall being t7 as we talked about before. t7 is a powerful relic, banker and recall are good relics, but I feel like its a waste of a t7

[fringe hare]

Leagues VI countdown website by @pseudo gulch https://www.osrsleaguescountdown.io/

[tropic mantle]

Where

[toxic vortex]

Its in the screenshot

'toggleable effect'

Well, so not a note but an auto-bank

Which is probably slightly better anyway

[tropic mantle]

So not 2 relics that note but one that just does something done before

Hmm interesting

[toxic vortex]

Yeah and really the one relic destroys not notes

[blissful fiber]

Why would you want to destroy items

Especially if u can note them

just realised there's no mining guild or motherlode mine, crap

[toxic vortex]

why

those are in asg

[blissful fiber]

Oh
I keep thinking falador and co is part of mishtalin

Guess I know my 3 unlock

Kourend, desert and asgarnia

[tropic mantle]

where at

[timber quest]

the t8 relic can autopick up loot and u can toggle it being noted

guardian or w/e its called

[tropic mantle]

thats just so irrelevant

im also not fully sure on if the minion notes it or picks up notes or not

because i assume you can set it to only pick up notes

[toxic vortex]

The relic page says "whether or not these should be noted"

I would interpret that to say it can note them for you

but who knows

[tropic mantle]

i wouldn't at all tbh

i'd read it as "if drop is noted, pick up"

like grimy herbs etc

[edgy dune]

Think this is the direction I’m currently leaning but I’m flexible on asgarnia

[toxic vortex]

as always, we need clarification from jagex

[tropic mantle]

actually looking at the vid it does seem like drops become noted

[toxic vortex]

the real question would be how does it pick them up

[tropic mantle]

the minion doesn't loot, it teleports them to your inv

[toxic vortex]

rs3 has a pet that can pick up items for you, but it has its limits

[tropic mantle]

it doesnt run over to them like legendary pets

items immediately appear in your inv

[toxic vortex]

yeah but can it handle multiple drops on the same tick?

[timber quest]

"and whether or not these should be noted is configurble on the whistle" lol

[tropic mantle]

yes and as i said that's quite ambigious

regardless it's irrelevant to the prior point lol

[timber quest]

[tropic mantle]

wouldnt see why not looking at the way it works in the vid

[toxic vortex]

see I wish they would have included the videos on the page on the website

and not a separate video posted to twitter

[tropic mantle]

theyre embedded on the page but yeah, linking to x is dumb

[toxic vortex]

at least put a link for the video on the description for the relic itself

I shouldn't have to scroll to a completely different section

or embed it directly below the relic

[blissful fiber]

Am I an idiot or 1 minute farming ticks still seem very slow?

[latent magnet]

Pretty sure it means all farming ticks are 1 minute

[blissful fiber]

No that's not right

"farming ticks update every 1 minute instead of 5"

5 is the normal farming tick timer no? The cycle at which relevant farming tick are updated

Unless they meant compared to previous leagues

[toxic vortex]

depends on the plant

[tropic mantle]

it depends on how they implement it

1 min farming ticks is "just" 5 times faster than normal

but if they make it so every plant grows a stage every min, that's muuuuch faster

[blissful fiber]

Yeah that's what I wanna know, cause the wording is ambiguous

"Farming ticks will occur every minute instead of every five minutes."

Does the farming timer run 5 time as fast or each plant stage happens a minute

[toxic vortex]

I can't recall how it worked last league

[tacit oyster]

5 times faster yes

[old tapir]

i assume you don't need sailing for max cape either if its excluded from the league?

[toxic vortex]

Correct

[sleek wraith]

should of been "always on slayer task" relic

[old tapir]

it does feel like it has some weird redundancies

[sleek wraith]

the only thing going for it is the 50% chance of getting a superior (which there is already a passive for them to spawn more often) and the 3 elite clues each kill....if you plan to do that many clues lolol. unless there is a 1 step per each clue relic that will be announced idk how this would be a good option for anyone to pick.

[dry nacelle]

slayer helm permanent is incredibly strong, definitely the best part of the relic

[tropic mantle]

its not worded the same as last time

[toxic vortex]

Tbf the best part of the slayer relic last time is that it worked in places where it wasn't supposed to

[old tapir]

indeed

it was crazy in raids

its nice that you can get the effect without picking morytania though

[minor summit]

Did you all see they are trying to bring Kandarin out of time out this leagues?

[pseudo gulch]

maybe I will get to pick Kandarin 3 leagues in a row lol

[sleek wraith]

kandarin is a dead zone. 1) minigame points wont affect tithe farming. 2) the echo boss item was trash so unless they change the item for the echo boss then its already a dead zone. 3) COX has probably worse rates for raid uniques compared to the other 2 raids and we get megarare vouchers anyway so why choose the one that is arguably the longest raid with the worse returns?

[toxic vortex]

How is cox rares being bad a knock for kandarin?

[ebon hearth]

so is this DMM without pvp

[toxic vortex]

Not exactly

[sleek wraith]

ahhh woops. im thinking about kourend lolol. woops

when it comes to kandarin there isnt any gain for that area. unless you wanna do barb assault tasks lol

[compact hare]

Did we find out if the Culling Spree relic is the imbued version of the slayer helm? I wouldn't think it would be the unimbued version but who knos

[toxic vortex]

we haven't yet

[lethal wedge]

do we know if we have access to max cape without asgarnia yet?

[cyan shale]

Don’t think there’s been an exception in any other league

[lethal wedge]

wasnt it the sage in last league?

[cyan shale]

For the max cape?

[lethal wedge]

ye

but with the sage caged yama gonna do it?

at least im pretty sure

[cyan shale]

Well I stand corrected

[lethal wedge]

ye just double checked

[cyan shale]

Yeah apparently you’ve been able to purchase the cape through the sage 🤦‍♂️

[lethal wedge]

just wanted to check to make sure tho this league with the sage not being avalible

i go for max cape every league and was really nice not being locked to asgarnia last league haha

[manic prairie]

it seems to me that we arent getting slayer master

since its such a late relic to give you slayer bonuses already

[old tapir]

i suspect there might be a demonbane relic

hard to see another way they could grant it

and you kinda need it especially since everybody is majorly funneled into doom

can do doom without it of course, especially with combat masteries

but it just feels right

[old tapir]

or maybe combat masteries have demonbane

[manic prairie]

They had said there will be ways to get demonbane

My guess is that synapse will be tradable for an ember light

Since the guthix cave is available for everyone

[full lodge]

That was a poorly written sentence apparently - the caves are inaccessible for everyone

[mental stream]

Bro thats cap

[full lodge]

It's true, we can't kill TDs this league

[toxic vortex]

It was confirmed in the leagues discord that TDs are off the table

[mental stream]

covered does not mean off the table?

it means its gonna be one of the teasers

it would be dumb to have a demonic pact league without demonbane (the synapse is a literal piece of a demons brain making it thematically sound)

really hope it isnt a lameass combat mastery where u pick between a type of creature u want to do extra dmg to

[toxic vortex]

#636001942773956609 message - this is from mod husky in the leagues discord

[edgy dune]

Ignoring everything else that’s been said, ‘covered’ doesn’t mean off the table but the answer to ‘with no TDs available’ not being ‘TDs will be available’ is pretty conclusive

[toxic vortex]

The inclusion of yama in that message makes me think that maybe yama drops the synapse?

Like they could have said "demonbane will be covered, but no TDs"

[old tapir]

gotta respect daddy when he puts his foot down, sadge

[toxic vortex]

#leagues-vi-faq message - for all the questions about slayer helm

Yes it is imbued, no it won't stack with the actual helm

Yes it does stack with other armor sets like void, crystal

[old tapir]

you think there's any reason to pick prif if you're not ranged

guess it depends on the echo item partly

[full lodge]

If we get Crystal Blessing then Crystal Armour is very strong

[latent magnet]

Probably a relic weapon

Oh my god

I just realized

Demons Reprisal

Or maybe TDS will be available in Yama's Lair... Lol

That'd be cool

[cinder remnant]

Hard to pick which starting relic is right one 😒

[toxic vortex]

I mean he said TDs are not available

[lavish ice]

The amount of times this will be reiterated is hilarious. Should just set up a bot that automatically triggers at the mention of TDs, to let people know they wont be available, otherwise they might think TDs are available

[toxic vortex]

wait

are TDs available?

[lavish ice]

https://tenor.com/view/bugs-bunny-bunny-no-nope-nou-gif-13480425249407915803

[toxic vortex]

https://tenor.com/bXZRW.gif

[lavish ice]

Its a rough life not being "can use a gif" cool

[toxic vortex]

https://tenor.com/jWZQS8VJ4e4.gif

[old tapir]

except its from echo zulrah

[tawdry junco]

This seems crazy

[fleet fractal]

Indeed, they need to update the leak video, when I checked they used the Culling vid for the Evil Eye reveal

[tawdry junco]

Will make moons extremely extremely fast

[pale thistle]

its up now

[toxic vortex]

Yeah I like this

the teleport animation is sick

and will most likely be in the reward shop afterwards

[coral basin]

Its very convenient for sure

[sterile lake]

For moons yeah but dont really need teles to bosses when you’re likely to be able to stay at them indefinitely

Hopefully this means no recall this league.

[toxic vortex]

at least we know that t3 is probably the teleport tier

[manic prairie]

Idk why I feel like the last 2 reveals are kinda weak

The first reveal was very good, the second was fine

[languid mauve]

Hey i got a question how come there is no passive unlocks for tier 6 and 8?

[manic prairie]

Not yet known, speculation is that there are separate combat relics that might slot in there

Mine at least

But it sounds more like official if I say it that way

[white patio]

yeah assuming we have the other typical teleport options that sounds good but it actually isn't good

they'd have to kinda nerf some of the older options for it to make sense

[manic prairie]

Bank teleport was so much better imo

Nature and fairy was better

Bosses are much less available than most other teleports

[white patio]

i mean thats still a ton of teleports but they're usually in kind of bad spots

and if we have things like bankers note again the travel time to bosses is usually irrelevant

since you can just setup shop and stay forever

[manic prairie]

I feel like the idea for the barrows line is to cover for the lack of recall

[languid mauve]

I think if it was just plainly “any” boss or raid might improve it instead of achievement diary only ones.

[white patio]

i mean thats very nearly the same thing

[manic prairie]

I assume it means combat tasks?

[white patio]

yeah its CAs

which basically means more or less every boss

[manic prairie]

That’s every boss other than like

Idk

Elvarg?

[languid mauve]

I for one know i will not be picking culling spree. The other two relics would have to be so atrocious that you have no option for me to pick it

[white patio]

ya theres usually like a new boss or some super meme boss somewhere that doesn't have a ca

but for the most part its like 99.9% of them

[languid mauve]

Yeah im slow its combat achievments not diary cape lmfaoo

[coral basin]

I will say the back to back superiors on spree sounds fun. I probably will also pick smth else though

[manic prairie]

The odds of getting 3 is like 12%

[white patio]

its really going to be about where we think we can go with those teleports

if we aren't intending to kill the boss

and i think a lot of those options are pretty bad

[manic prairie]

On average you are gonna get like 2.2 superiors per spawn

[white patio]

it has some upsides though too

[languid mauve]

This is also what i was thinking is even if we dont care about boss how else can we use teleport

[white patio]

like im assuming nex bank

could be really good

assuming it puts you in the bank room

[manic prairie]

Gearrdas teleport

[white patio]

if it doesn't they actually hate us but lol

[coral basin]

I think its fun to have to experiment with boss locations to figure out teleports that previously didn't exist

[manic prairie]

So I can get my 6th bandos boot in a row for all my league runs

[languid mauve]

Right next to nex lol

[manic prairie]

I’ve literally only gotten boots in leagues and gridmaster

[coral basin]

I guess whats really nice is you can pot at a bank and then instantly tp to any boss

Saves on inventory

[languid mauve]

I usually get bandos chest and boots and rarely ever tassets

[white patio]

you'll also get the raids banks

[languid mauve]

I kept getting godsword shards but no hilts

[manic prairie]

I bet we are getting infinite potions in a relic

They tested in in grid

[white patio]

so theres a decent selection of teleport to bank options which is usually pretty important

[manic prairie]

Is yama boss fight a free unlock?

Or do we need to go to his original layer

[coral basin]

Yama is almost assuredly free

[languid mauve]

Yeah i thought i finite shark and super restore was nice

[coral basin]

Honestly i wouldnt be surprised if fighting yama might actually be a core mechanic of league progression or smth

[languid mauve]

I dont think people have fully mathed out the minion relic. Unless the other two are god tier anything will be hard to compete, a minion that hits 3-20s with an attack speed of a blowpipe it will out dps most people without top notch gear

[manic prairie]

Oath plate for free seems too strong

Would remove too much value from grardad

[coral basin]

You dont have to have oath plate as a drop here though

[languid mauve]

In gridmaster yama was ez with t bow range relic

I feel like since he is the idol of this leagues he might be significantly harder or have an echo version

Something tells me there wont be just a “regular” yama available

[manic prairie]

Most likely will be echo yama

What was the echo boss in that region before?

[languid mauve]

We never had that region in last leagues

It was there for gridmaster but grid didnt have echoes

[toxic vortex]

zeah had echo hespori

varlamore had echo sol

[languid mauve]

Im so stupid my memory is bad

I forgot

[toxic vortex]

https://tenor.com/xNq9.gif

[languid mauve]

Yeah echo sol for the basically infinite healing gloves

[languid mauve]

This me the sammich lol

Who am i lol

https://tenor.com/view/president-stops-president-smiles-ominous-smile-ominous-no-answer-gif-78197234359887585

[manic prairie]

Echo heapori most definitely getting banished

[languid mauve]

I hope we get new echo items some of them were kinda dumb

Ill try to keep it under 6 accounts this leagues but no promises

[vast epoch]

Echo doom

[languid mauve]

That would be cool

[toxic vortex]

echo doom seems likely

maybe you could do echo moons as a whole

with a unique armor set dropped

full moon set. all three set effects combined?

idk, blood moon set is the only one thats truly good

[languid mauve]

That could be cool

[pseudo gulch]

SMH

[pseudo gulch]

Updated my site with new info! I've been trying to aggregate all of the relic specific tidbits and add them to the relic descriptions for easy lookup. If anyone notices anything I've missed please lmk!

[fringe hare]

[blissful fiber]

Eh, not too crazy about this relic

[manic prairie]

Doubt there will be an echo boss in the free region

But possible

[blissful fiber]

Surely the other relic of that tier warrant not taking a boss quick travel

[blissful fiber]

Echo sol heredit is likely, no?

Unless it's new bosses

[manic prairie]

I feel like the relics are all sorta weak, either combat masteries or a secret third option will be revealed

[blissful fiber]

If they add total recall or whatever equivalent

It would invalidate that relic

[manic prairie]

I don’t think the devs like total recall

And nerfing it would be worse than replacing it at this point

[toxic vortex]

idk, recall has been in leagues since tbl1

[toxic vortex]

we had echo sol last league

not saying we couldn't, but i'd think they'd do a different boss

[blissful fiber]

I see

Echo gem crab

Trust

[toxic vortex]

that would be the meme pick

[blissful fiber]

It would be really funny thought, think about it

A fight with 0 mechanic but an actual fight

Against a stat stick

Of an enemy

[craggy mantle]

it keeps digging away and the 'fight' is a sepulchre type obstacle course between the spots

[languid mauve]

Out of the ones i see without knowing the others i would pick minion and endless harvest.

No matter what the other relics are i will not be picking evil eye or culling spree

I think minion is very strong and would take something ridiculous for me to pick a different tier 8

[toxic vortex]

Why not culling spree?

[blissful fiber]

All my homies hate slayer

🖕

It's my least leveled skill alongside runecrafting, I'm just waiting on quests to unlock the last altars to do gotr again

[languid mauve]

Its just super weak, i mean compared to last league its not that exciting to me

[toxic vortex]

Well last league it was admittedly broken

[blissful fiber]

Last league it was outright bugged I heard

[toxic vortex]

It was

[blissful fiber]

You get slayer helm (I) to work on everything

Regardless of what it was

[toxic vortex]

The effect was applied to things it shouldn't have been

[languid mauve]

True and if im being honest i hated the fact bis helm was slayer helm because of that perk

[blissful fiber]

Tbf if you are seeking out a specific drop from a slayer monster

I could see the value of culling spree

[languid mauve]

Yeah it has its benefits for sure

Also being able to always have a boss task available out of 3 options is pretty cool paired that with the eye teleport relic

Could be useful

No matter what im happy regardless of relics i was getting tired of the copy and pasted relics

[toxic vortex]

I typically go with the slayer relic because its usually up against the clue relic, and I don't really do clues

[errant pebble]

When do you think we will get more then one relic reveal per day?

[toxic vortex]

So it remains to be seen

[languid mauve]

Probably towards the end

[blissful fiber]

There's still 2 weeks to the league so

[toxic vortex]

typically I wouldn't expect until the week leading up to release

but who knows

[languid mauve]

Not counting weekends theres 1 more relic then there is weekdays

Until 15th

[errant pebble]

But there's also combat masteries and tasks

[blissful fiber]

Masteries are gonna be the demonic pacts

We still have no idea what they are

[toxic vortex]

Indeed

[blissful fiber]

Still curious if the wording imply strong effects with notable downsides

Which would be cool

They said it's less linear than masteries

[errant pebble]

so far it feels like less powerfull league then the previous one

Wonder if they drop pacts as one day reveal or will be small drops each day

[blissful fiber]

Pact seems so much more important

Surely they'll drop them as a big drop

[errant pebble]

I hope so

[blissful fiber]

The more I see league (this will be my first one), the more I'm tilted about dropping gridmaster on day 2

[errant pebble]

Get min/max hit increased by +1 for each inventory space you forfeit

[errant pebble]

That one was fun. I want another one

Surely they will do one more

[blissful fiber]

I got the exp combat share scroll wrong which kinda killed my flow

[errant pebble]

Oh yeah, a lot of people picked wrong

I tied to my dodgy deals i think

[white pine]

why this latest teleport relic named after range prayers

[toxic vortex]

It's not?

[idle cipher]

Evil Eye is not Eagle Eye

[sleek wraith]

potato patato

[sleek wraith]

anyone else think this teleport relic is mid? like if we get the bankers briefcase again then im 100% grabing that instead. that with recall relic was insane to use for skilling and pvm

[toxic vortex]

It's not a bad relic, only bad when you compare it to what we had before

[sleek wraith]

true. not mentioning other relics in that tier its a decent relic.

especially if you choose wilderness

[vapid silo]

it's weak early but gets better once you have to grind bosses for points. kinda interesting

[edgy dune]

I really hope this is the case

I think we’ll probably see relics be generally less powerful and masteries more but come with debuffs

[old tapir]

does culling spreee have free task cancelling? it doesn't read to me as having it

actually having to do the tasks you pick even if they're only 5 kills, is a bit annoying

[full lodge]

No, but you get every other unlock for free and 5x point by default, so with the only thing to spend points on skipping should be easy

[timber quest]

Kinda hope the boss cap is removed with CS

I wanna see a screen cap of "you have finished your slayer of 200 zuk, you have gained 64m slayer xp" xD

[cinder remnant]

What starting relic should I pick

[full lodge]

It is

From Mod Husky

[timber quest]

Incredible news, thank for the tip xD

[full lodge]

Also means the minimum task is 5 Zuk

[timber quest]

Oh shit you're right so there'll be some disgusting screen caps regardless

[full lodge]

Sadly, due to a "bug" the exp gained message is capped to ~200k

It's capped to like 2^15

[molten gust]

I do hope we hear about the combat stuff soon. Masteries or if they change it up. Even a slight peak at it.

[toxic vortex]

#636001942773956609 message - husky posted this message in the leagues disc a little bit ago

its morse code, translates to
“STARTING TODAY YOU GET EXTRA REVEALS”

so, possibly some combat stuff today

[molten gust]

Sweet.

[toxic vortex]

they have said that the combat masteries will be different

with the demonic pacts

[cinder remnant]

When is the next relic revealed

[snow patrol]

prob 10 mins

[cinder remnant]

Wonder if it will be a brand new one again

Just saw it

[blissful fiber]

oh hell ye

woodsman looking good

[vast epoch]

Ez pick

[blissful fiber]

easy source of seed and herbs

[vestal shuttle]

Woodsman + Barbarian Gathering is a really funny image in my head

Just punching a tree so hard it instantly combusts

[amber gyro]

hell yeah

[vast epoch]

What tier is that

[blissful fiber]

tier 2

[vestal shuttle]

Hel yeah

[vast epoch]

Oh ye

[blissful fiber]

this is the most exciting reveal to me so far

beyond tier 1

[vast epoch]

Anything that makes Hunter free is an easy pick

[blissful fiber]

its really the free seeds and herbs

that im looking at more

[vestal shuttle]

Has there ever been a relic that makes all farming patches like Tithe Farm? I hate farming runs it feels so un-interactive lmao

[blissful fiber]

nothing revealed yet

beside the overall "farming tick every minute instead of 5 minute"

read: farming happens 5x faster

[vestal shuttle]

Oh true

[vestal shuttle]

But I meant in past Leagues has this been a thing?

[blissful fiber]

i remember gridmaster having an instant growth perk?

surely based on a relic

[mellow iris]

I’m just hoping this relic means wildy pickers can just instantly start black chins, the wording is odd between this and the in-game login tip about Hunter

[vast epoch]

Yeah

FAQ soon

[blissful fiber]

@vestal shuttleyeah trailblazer had the same perk as in gridmaster

so i'd assume we'd see something similar

[molten gust]

Well if we are getting reveals. Might get another thing in the next few hours or so.

[vestal shuttle]

Nice

[blissful fiber]

farmer's fortune and woodsman is gonna go wild

[old tapir]

woodsman good

makes abudance way better, takes care of fletching, firemaking, hunter on its own, sets up farming

probably picking it unless there's a very powerful herblore relic in same tier

also looking out for reloaded as usual since that adds a major wrinkle to any relic plan

[timber quest]

i can see the other 2 reics being auto smith a bar or auto cook de feesh but cant really think what support skill ties with each of those

lil scared its gonna be the theiving or the agility relic

[toxic vortex]

second leak in 28 minutes

[errant pebble]

@toxic vortex how do you know?

[toxic vortex]

the leagues discord

[errant pebble]

Nice

[toxic vortex]

https://x.com/OldSchoolRS/status/2037590794576494872

Old School RuneScape (@OldSchoolRS)

We're not done yet with reveals today...
Arm yourself with the combined stats of three weapons, fused into a single devastating arsenal. Defeat the Amoxliatl Echo Boss, and claim a new reward this Leagues. ⚔️

X · Mar 27, 2026, 6:01 PM

[errant pebble]

So just the first Echo boss revealed

[vast epoch]

Ye

[toxic vortex]

And a tease at what the reward will be, yes

Also leaves open the possibility that we will have two echo bosses per region

[errant pebble]

Sol second?

[toxic vortex]

unconfirmed but sol was the echo boss last league

[timber quest]

nice to have something for 2 of the moons, boppers will retire them so quickly tho damn

[old tapir]

not the most exciting item if its simply another nagua weapon with high stats

hopefully cool passive or spec on it

[timber quest]

the more i think about it, the more im kinda hoping it will be like thermy/devils element last year where you only have to kill the boss for a task and not actually equip the item

[old tapir]

was there an echo boss in misthalin last time

[timber quest]

no

[toxic vortex]

yeah its hard to judge without knowing more

[timber quest]

atleast as far as i can remember

[old tapir]

okay so we can cut this one some slack since its part of the starter region

[toxic vortex]

but a two hit-splat melee weapon that has high stats across slash/stab/crush would be cool

[timber quest]

theres nothing with a negative flat armour thats weak to stab, the tecpatl are really bad xd

[toxic vortex]

[timber quest]

i love them for this reason

[old tapir]

we live in a slash world unfortunately

[toxic vortex]

it seems the most likely reward

[timber quest]

but if rc xp is coming from sulpher nagua, then the blades from there gets you boppers from moons and theyll likely outclass these toys

[old tapir]

why would you get rc xp from sulphur naguas

[timber quest]

i think its how we are gonna have to start rc, they drop this essence that can be traded in for rc xp

[toxic vortex]

idk, the echo items were all pretty cracked

[timber quest]

hopefully the stats get buffed a lot, but i currently read it as its gonna combine the 3 t55 dual wields and mash the bonus' together

i like your reality more than mine so im also on your side xd

[old tapir]

if that was the case it would be a 82 accuracy 192 str weapon

not a totally outrageous statline, dogsword was 132/132

[timber quest]

oh is that if the bonus' are added together?

i worded it poorly, i expect the stab bonus from tecpatl, crush bonus from temotlis and slas bonus from blades

[old tapir]

hespori bagpipes were 155/103 also

[timber quest]

nice thats a good sign

reward aside, im super excited to see what they do with echo moxi, i think thats my fave of the learner bosses

[toxic vortex]

Yeah I don't necessarily expect just an a+b+c=d scenario

more so a weapon that has an equal but boosted stat line across slash/stab/crush, that happens to have the dual hitsplats

[old tapir]

it was kinda overwhelming for me to do with a rune crossbow tbh

but i was also going in blind

[molten gust]

I am guessing its a combo of sulphur blades, earthbound tecpatl, and the glacial temotli.

[latent magnet]

I'm gonna do the same monarch void build, I hope its good

[blissful fiber]

was golden god ever visible on the table?

cause im still looking at abundance with side eyes

it would just get invalidated by golden god

[molten gust]

I think its on the bottom right of the layout.

[river vector]

Hello, I’m tota new in osrs and leauge. If I’m really bad at PvM, what regions are the best?

[copper gorge]

Depends on what you want to do. Leagues has a very significant dps/health boost to where most bosses arent hard. For example, last year i went melee route and meleed fight caves in under 25 minutes.

[celest flare]

No idea at all if people have tried working out what the 3 weapons are, or if this is already agreed on, but after thinking about the shape of the weapon and the context of it I'm putting decent odds on it being this

Dual macuahuitl fits slightly nicer here than ice boppers imo, but sulphur blades and earthbound feel like such strong choices and it'd be really weird if the cycle was broken to exclude the weapon actually from this boss

[cursive field]

The handle kinda looks like a voidwaker
The tips kinda looks like burnin claws

[gilded totem]

Who else is spinning the wheel this year?

I get:
Varlamore & Karamja
Along with the unlocks of:

Morytania
Desert
Asgarnia

And Relics:
2 3 1 1 3 2 1

[toxic vortex]

Never

[sleek wraith]

I’m def choosing mory as one of the areas. If we get the relic where we can high alch and have a 50% chance of saving item then I’m 100% choosing prif. Idk about last choice. It all depends what the relics and new echo bosses are. As it stands by going by last league…kourend is a dead choice with its shit hespori echo boss item.

My opinion at least

[old tapir]

i think i'm mostly locked into kourend and fremmy, would have to be something very significant to shake me from that

dunno what third region is, definitely not morytania

good to have a flex pick to cover for missing items or training methods i suppose

[sleek wraith]

Only way I choose kourend is if they change the echo boss and item. The drop rates for raid uniques was a pain in cox compared to the other 2 raids as well. Not to mention the minigame 8x bonus will not work with tithe just like last league. Pretty sure the xp was nerfed there too.

[molten gust]

At least for cox they are making it have less chance for scrolls. Atm I am planning on Mory, with a maybe for kourend. Not sure for a 3rd yet. Will need to see the echo gear.

[errant pebble]

Varlaore has high alch items

[molten gust]

Hespori’s item was really good for basically mid game/early raiding. But yeah could be outclassed quickly.

[limpid lava]

Bis for zuk for melee builds lol

[molten gust]

True. Kinda hope the melee combat stuff has some thing to help with hitting far away stuff. Even if its at reduced damage.

[toxic vortex]

why would you need prif because of golden god?

theres a stonemason in varlamore

[sleek wraith]

with that relic you can get 99 craft/smith/farm/con/prayer easily to 99 in prif. hardly any effort

[snow patrol]

there's unlikely to be golden god this year

the relic ppl thought was golden god was evil eye

[sleek wraith]

if not then prif wil probably be the place anyone hardly chooses this league then. if that is the case then i may choose the gp relic in tier 1. like 60% chance ill get it at that point.

[formal gulch]

Do we get Karamja for free?

[sleek wraith]

we do

[toxic vortex]

it just wont be right away

[molten gust]

From what they have said. It will unlock after a few hours.

So probably a minor point milestone and you get it.

[sleek wraith]

wondering if we are getting the old echo bosses or will they all be new? or will we get all the old ones and new ones

[manic prairie]

theres a riddle in the page that some people have taken to mean that at least some echo bosses will be back

[plain pasture]

Food for thought....
What if these demonic pacts allow you to interchange your buffed combat style like shattered relics, like dmm sigils.
Meaning you no longer build your picks round combat/gear progression

[gentle rune]

I'm picking kourend for cox

[opal hornet]

I don’t have much knowledge on osrs so leagues will be so exciting, jhst scary to pick an area 😒

[versed stump]

Apparently echo thermy is back according to a leak

[stone basin]

Kourend has a lot of fun stuff, I’m gonna try get oathplate ^^

[cinder remnant]

Is there a reveal today

[tacit oyster]

should be every day at around <t:1774713600:t>

maybe multiple some days after that time

[sleek wraith]

i forgot about oathplate. mmmmmm maybe i will go for kourend...

[foggy flare]

Thats the most fun, cause you can pick things based on stuff you want to learn :)

[finite kestrel]

Clue relic

Its on the blog

[minor summit]

I kind of like the combination.

[old tapir]

those 1/3 and 1/4 rates probably came out of playtesting, but it seems.. bad?

most hidey hole steps are just gonna be instant drops too

[minor summit]

Eh. It seems like this League is Compensation League. We aren't getting the same relics, we are getting "new" ones, with combination effects of prior ones.

[old tapir]

i think i'll be playing enough that i can get the clue tasks without the relic, that was the case in last league atleast

[minor summit]

So, there's bound to be some bad effects, or at least some undesirable effects

[old tapir]

this seems like something you'd only pick if you're not playing much

[timber quest]

i like that they are showing all the meh relics first, will build hype as we get closer xd

[cinder remnant]

Not a permanent clue teleport

[old tapir]

yeah this does make me interested in the other teleport relics

[vapid silo]

https://tenor.com/view/akakichi-no-eleven-bro-bad-news-i've-got-bad-news-for-you-hand-on-shoulder-gif-4737126791591033318

[old tapir]

because i feel like they probably can't do mushroom or briefcase

so what other fancy ways are there to teleport

[minor summit]

Goose, I hope that's accurate. Because, I like some of them. I hope they don't think these are the meh ones and the later reveals are the "good ones" but turn out to be meh

[vapid silo]

t1 was most hype so far

maybe due to knowing the whole tier

[minor summit]

T1 definitely. But it is that

[minor summit]

Beat me to it

[old tapir]

t1 choice is still predicated on whether there's a golden god spinoff later on

i do like woodsman tho

[minor summit]

Doesn't Abundance seem like that's all the Golden God we are getting?

Also, based on the way T2 looks. We may not get a thieving relic?

[vapid silo]

im curious what will compete with woodsman. woodsman assists with a lot of skills

[minor summit]

Funny how WC relic was trash last league at least compared to the competition

The fishing relic was hard to pass up in the past two leagues lol

[old tapir]

its not exactly a woodcutting relic

[minor summit]

Well, true...

[vapid silo]

its fm+fletch+hunter and a bit of farming

[minor summit]

Then I wonder if one of the other two T2 will help with Thieving.

[vapid silo]

trickster could show up in that tier...

[minor summit]

I feel like Woodsman with the seeds is to compensate for not having access to Bird Houses

[timber quest]

i can see a auto smith ore/auto cook fish for the other 2 slots but what attaches in the same way im not sure

[vapid silo]

I think I only did birdhouses for the birdhouse tasks during any league

[minor summit]

Which makes me wonder....is Asgarnia going to be useless this League (Mole is good for seeds, right?)

[vapid silo]

auto cook maybe also assistance with herblore?

[minor summit]

Imagine if they did Echo GWD

[timber quest]

void will be really broken with the slayer relic whilst on task

[minor summit]

Didn't think of that. I've never gone after void

[old tapir]

eeehhh

[timber quest]

ye maybe not really, and only against slayer mobs is meh

[old tapir]

maybe earlygame but you're probably looking at oath, crystal or ancestral

for later on

[timber quest]

depending on what accuracy boosts are given ig

[old tapir]

i had my fill of nex last league

[minor summit]

Last time I went GWD was L3. Pissed me off L2 and L3 went over 600kc for hilt....