#Give aircraft newer USA equipment

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glossy wraith
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Examples:

AIM-260
Specific Aircraft radar modes
Ex. (SRC HDN)
Hypersonic missiles or weaponry
Augmented Reality Equipment
Auto throttle system without speed lock
Better datalink (It works like shit in game)
Auto GCAS (F-16 inspired)
Auto countermeasure dispensary.
Increased Radar Range
LWR
Equip able RWRs that are way more effective than standard ones. (ALQ-218, for example)
You can list more if you'd like.

viscid tiger
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Wait till you learn VTOL datalink and rwr’s are already impossibly OP

pliant pilot
glossy wraith
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The datalink system is honestly piss poor ngl. (It is bugged for me)

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You may have different opinions.

pliant pilot
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reminiscent of the -218 as well the asq-239

glossy wraith
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But I think it could be ALOT better.

glossy wraith
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Still no SAM missile detection range.

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Which is a pretty bad issue.

pliant pilot
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how lmao, its literally impossible to get range from ELINT without triangulation and the vtol elint has very good azimuth resolution

glossy wraith
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Considering how may get thrown at you.

pliant pilot
glossy wraith
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Yes.

pliant pilot
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bang

glossy wraith
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Does NOT fix nothing.

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It is an RWR issue.

pliant pilot
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its a UI issue not an rwr one lmao

glossy wraith
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Only thing saving you is the ARAD that is also piss poor with detection.

pliant pilot
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dawg what how is the detection bad 😭

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what capabilities do you THINK are available irl that we dont have in game, ELINT wise

glossy wraith
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Inaccurate for missile defense.

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Talking about the FA/26...

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F-45 and EF-24 are pretty decent with that.

pliant pilot
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the Anti Radiation Attack Display is not intended for defensive use

glossy wraith
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Can be used as one.

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And the F-45 and EF-24 are pretty good examples of that.

pliant pilot
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and im still confused, how exactly do you want it to be improved?

glossy wraith
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Give improved range detection.

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So the RWR can SEE.

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The missiles range from impact.

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Which the F-16 mod shows well.

pliant pilot
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so you want threat rings okay

glossy wraith
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With its own RWR like system.

pliant pilot
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the ARAD cant give that since it has no way of determining range to the target

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RWR cant do that either for the matter, you need to triangulate off of another sensor

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you just cant get very good, if any, range resolution with ELINT

junior night
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ELINT/RWR range indication is a mixed bag, depends on the plane. IRL very few can do it well.

tight junco
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good change imo

viscid tiger
junior night
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Really not big on these suggestions tbh

glossy wraith
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For what reasons?

pliant pilot
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not realistic to start off with lmao

junior night
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Mixed reasons, if you value my opinion for some ungodly reason I can list them

glossy wraith
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Quite a real missile.

pliant pilot
tight junco
glossy wraith
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"Improved radar range."

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Custom maps.

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AIM-260
Specific Aircraft radar modes
Ex. (SRC HDN)
Hypersonic missiles or weaponry
Augmented Reality Equipment
Auto throttle system without speed lock
Better datalink (It works like shit in game)
Auto GCAS (F-16 inspired)
Auto countermeasure dispensary.
Increased Radar Range

pliant pilot
glossy wraith
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Can still be pretty big...

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It does have about a 150 mile range.

tight junco
glossy wraith
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But that can be quite subjective since it isn't fully known about it.

tight junco
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it works pretty well

glossy wraith
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Might be just my end.

pliant pilot
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trust me i think long range missiles are cool, i literally stood next to an aim174b, but they just wouldnt be fun in vtol

tight junco
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like what

tight junco
pliant pilot
glossy wraith
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In multiplayer.

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Like literally doing 360s mid air.

pliant pilot
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wait how is that a DL thing...

tight junco
crude loom
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Me getting destroyed on spawn from 120nm away (I should’ve been prepared to dodge missiles on the runway)

glossy wraith
tight junco
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that is not a DL thing that is an internet thing

glossy wraith
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I have good internet.

pliant pilot
glossy wraith
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By USING Datalink.

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THATS how.

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It just flipped.

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And has done it like 16 times.

tight junco
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genuinely never seen that before

glossy wraith
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Huh.

tight junco
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in my decent amount of time playing this game

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and I play pvp a lot so I fire a lot of 120Ds on datalink

glossy wraith
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I have about like 500 hours poured into this.

tight junco
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I have double that

glossy wraith
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Just started recently.

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A month ago.

tight junco
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good lord

glossy wraith
pliant pilot
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i mean you have a DL confidence bar, dont shoot on low confidence tracks? thats not a "DL is bad thing" thats a "I am not getting onboard sensors on the track and/or triangulating with another platform" thing

junior night
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AIM-260 - Idk I think it'd be boring, VTOL's maps are balanced around shorter ranges.
Radar modes - I do like this, I'd love to see some technical configuration like frequency bands, LPIR vs Pulse Doppler toggles, that sort of thing.
Hypersonics - Maybe
Augmented reality - We kinda have the extent to which this exists in current jets
Auto throttle - why
Better DL - While it's possible better DL exists behind classified stuff, I'd rather we not speculate on classified tech for a game.
Auto GCAS - Idk could be fun
Auto CM - These systems are more annoying in the games I've seen them
Increased radar range - The distance you're spotting a stealth jet is already impressive, deal with what you've got
LWR - Sure
Equippable RWRs - Our current ones are unrealistically good
More powerful engines - Our current ones are unrealistically good

tight junco
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500 hours in a month is a little ridiculous

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that's like 16 hours a day there's no way you're playing that much

junior night
glossy wraith
glossy wraith
junior night
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I don't believe someone with 500 hours could be this uninformed

glossy wraith
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Don't really care for your opinion.

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Just thoughts.

pliant pilot
glossy wraith
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Engines are pretty piss poor tbh.

tight junco
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gotta be 🎣

glossy wraith
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EF-24 is the only good engine in the game.

tight junco
glossy wraith
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F/A-26 could have a bit more engine power.

glossy wraith
tight junco
glossy wraith
glossy wraith
tight junco
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it doesn't need an engine buff it needs a drag rework

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the thing has ridiculously powerful engines

glossy wraith
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It is an F-15 based aircraft so it should have a bit more thrust.'

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Could be a drag thing also.

junior night
glossy wraith
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1.36 is above average in VTOL VR.

junior night
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Are you doing that thing like DCS Flanker players who insist on putting a missile on every pylon then complain that they're heavy

glossy wraith
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Don't play DCS so don't follow really.

junior night
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Your plane is carrying too much, you don't need to fill all your pylons every mission

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TWR listings online tend to be clean

glossy wraith
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I don't..

tight junco
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maybe less fuel

glossy wraith
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Typical TWR for the F-22 on a full load ATA mission is about 1.17

grim tinsel
tight junco
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something like that

glossy wraith
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May be different because we still don't have everything known about the F-22.

glossy wraith
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Who brings no weaponary?

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To a mission.

grim tinsel
glossy wraith
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True.

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3k fuel would also get ran through quickly

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I'm just saying, some new stuff would be nice.

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All I've gotten so far is disagreements so.

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:/

grim tinsel
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According to google eurofighter has 1.22 twr at combat load with half fuel which is crazy

glossy wraith
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Damn.

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Why autothrottle?

It could help in dog fights, giving perfect thrust for maneuvers, and can pull back when an IR is detected instead of having to pull back.

junior night
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Or you could just hold the throttle and use it

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I wouldn't trust a machine with that lol

glossy wraith
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Note: The game does use real machinery wow

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I mean, give the F/A-26 like 5-10 percent more power and fix its horrid drag system.

tight junco
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it does not need anymore power

pliant pilot
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Yeah the wasp has insane power

glossy wraith
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Did a bit deeper looking into the power thing.

pliant pilot
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It can literally supercruise at like 25k

glossy wraith
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And yea you guys are right.

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Just airframe issue probs.

stable parrot
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But also, against this, I do not think that it should be 1:1 real AIM260 because that would imo ruin every PVP lobby it’s in, and would probably opt for an AIM174 (phoenix on crack + bathsalts)

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Mainly because it would be a fun missile that shrimply wouldn’t buff the 45

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Because if the 260 was added I would rather kill myself than fight a 45

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Also as far as triangulation goes I’m down with it EXCLUSIVELY outside of like 10 miles because otherwise it would make notching an absolute bitch I feel

stable parrot
glossy wraith
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Had 4 people against me.

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And had a long day.

stable parrot
glossy wraith
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But thanks for actually agreeing with me.

glossy wraith
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I thought the engine was just weak.

stable parrot
glossy wraith
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Yea…

gentle laurel
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dude this has got to be bait

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💀

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the EF24 has WEAKER engines than the FA26B

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🥀

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this HAS to be bait

glossy wraith
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If you’d read, you’d see I didn’t realize it is a CFD thing.

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Not an engine thing.

gentle laurel
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also you do nawt have 500 hours whilst only having been playing for a month

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I do not believe you've been spending 15 hours a day in vtolvr

glossy wraith
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Talking about the datalink issue.

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Typed it at the wrong time.

gentle laurel
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so

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you spent 500 hours

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researching datalink

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whilst only having been playing the game for a month

glossy wraith
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No.

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I’ve had issues with it while playing.

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I have 500 hours playing.

gentle laurel
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and you have 500 hours within a month?

glossy wraith
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No.

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I MEANT the issue has been going on for a month.

gentle laurel
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also 500 hours, and you know so little of the game

glossy wraith
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With the datalink being buggy.

gentle laurel
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is just wild to me

gentle laurel
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at all 😭

glossy wraith
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Must be my end.

glossy wraith
gentle laurel
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the datalink in game is absurdly powerful

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because it runs off of magic

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the 4th gens are kneecapped by datalink to make them better brawling, meaning you can slap on more weapons and such, and be better at defeating missiles or whatever, but you won't have the tech to always know where the enemy is, unless you know how to use what's given to you

glossy wraith
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I know how to use it.

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The missiles just go dumb and do random flips on my side.

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Probs my end.

gentle laurel
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or the enemy defeating your missile

glossy wraith
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Radar holds lock.

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Done it about 100 times.

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Did it in multiplayer

vague gorge
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No it's just losing lock

junior night
mossy sigil
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radar range is shit and needs buff
the 4th gen need proper datalink display (HSD / SA page)
HTS pod would be cool, our RWRs do not curently have the same capability as dedicated SEAD pods

noble hornet
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Nav is pretty good for SA. Maybe an altitude indicator could work

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But datalink is perfectly fine overall

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It used to be way too good for 5th gen before RWR triangulation

grim tinsel
noble hornet
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Yeah its annoying having to rely on 5th gen to make callouts

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(also annoying that 5th gen get target ID even though 4th don't on TWS)

grim tinsel
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If nav is soi’d we already have slew in the game, so displaying target info would be very nice

sturdy hamlet
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bait used to be believable bruh

glossy wraith