#AGM-154 JSOW

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timber trench
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One of the cluster variants : A or B (preferably A variant imo). Functionally a heavy, GPS-guided, cluster glide bomb. Flies over it's target and dispenses it's submunitions in a line over it.
Would make fore a great tool in DEAD. Although it's raw size and weight means few can be carried, just like the cruise missile.

https://youtu.be/KapgbVRPjaI

The AGM-154 Joint Standoff Weapon (JSOW) is the product of a joint venture between the United States Navy and Air Force to deploy a standardized medium range precision guided weapon, especially for engagement of defended targets at ranges outside that of standard anti-aircraft defenses, thereby increasing aircraft survivability and minimizing fr...

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kind ferry
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YES.
YES.
YES.

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limit it to the 24 and 45 since the 26 and 55 along with 42 can use CBUs?

timber trench
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it makes a lot of sense for the 24 since it's often used as a SEAD/DEAD wepon IRL

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it's one of the few weapons availible to the EA-18G

kind ferry
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Yeah

balmy stag
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This would be GODLY

onyx egret
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NOT A DUPE but this is another bomb that I would like to see in VTOL

kind ferry
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So I've been thinking, the JSOW2.0

Rough estimate range in game: 40 Mile Range (30 Mile Burn, ~10 mile glide)

it could cruise at near Mach 1.5 speeds similar to the AGM161 does

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wouldn't it be so fun to just send this over an airfield and watch it DECIMATE it?

timber trench
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so a cruise missile, not a glide bomb

kind ferry
wanton torrent
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Having it be a glide bomb would be pretty interesting, especially if you’d have to lob it. Would be even cooler if you could have it drop several munitions over different targets too! Would for sure be more expensive, but would lead to many interesting playstyles.

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Would probably need a new MFD page if you’d need to designate where waypoints are versus targets, kinda like the decoys

timber trench
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JSOW can’t fly over different targets

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it can choose attack bering like the GBU-39

wanton torrent
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Oh ok

kind ferry
wet timber
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CAGM with a cruise stage

kind ferry
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but with a lot more submunitions

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And GPS guided instead

wet timber
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$20,000,000 weapon

kind ferry
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😭

wet timber
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is an optical targeting system more/less expensive than GPS

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i think GPS-INS would be cheaper

balmy stag
wet timber
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yikes

timber trench
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multiple target cruise missile (i.e a bomber drone lol) reminds me of this : https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supersonic_Low_Altitude_Missile

The Supersonic Low Altitude Missile or SLAM was a U.S. Air Force nuclear weapons project conceived around 1955, and cancelled in 1964. SLAMs were conceived of as unmanned nuclear-powered ramjets capable of delivering thermonuclear warheads deep into enemy territory. The development of ICBMs in the 1950s rendered the concept of SLAMs obsolete. A...

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Giant nuclear powered cruise missile that would drop nukes on 16 targets

wanton torrent
kind ferry
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I want a stand off missile

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:(

timber trench
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JSOW has incredible range

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(given launch altitude ofc)

kind ferry
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(We have to limit its range in game)

timber trench
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i think it can be quite good, because it’s big you can’t carry many

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so really it’s more of an alternative to the 161

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less range, but cluster

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and no terminal guidance

wanton torrent
kind ferry
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No tf I dont

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💀

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I loiter at 20-36500

balmy stag
timber trench
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this is from the 50s tho, pre ICBM

balmy stag
timber trench
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i don’t know how respected that is you know

balmy stag
# timber trench rules no-one can enforce don’t matter

Treaties do matter people wouldn’t bother if they didn’t and it seems to be included under the new start act not specifically but the limit or warheads is pretty close to the limit of ICBM’s not giving much space for many warheads per icbm

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Okay to be more specific we are allowed 2200 nuclear warheads no limits on how many ICBM’s but there are limits on how many launchers if I understand this properly

timber trench
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well i simply don’t know
i just remeber hearing the whole "this sub has 20 ICBMs, each loaded with 5 warheads, so that’s 100 nukes , and we have 10 submarines …"

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could be outdated

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doesn’t really matter, end of the world is end of the world