#*Simple* AWACS capabilities

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tropic pier
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I agree, a flyable AWACS would not fit into the game whatsoever. Slow and unmaneuverable aircraft would largely just lead to frustration and underuse.

What I am asking for is a spectator option for the E-2 and AEW-50. The interior doesn’t have to be complicated, just a big tube with like a desk and monitor.

The console wouldn’t be that different from the one in the Tower. The only significant differences would be the ability to see hostiles and the ability to manually mark ground units on the screen (via GPS for example).

It would be a relatively simple and intuitive addition to the game and could add some depth and additional immersion.

Let me know what y’all think

idle fossil
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Not sure if real AWACS could mark ground targets IRL

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I'd really like to see a way for Baha to make it believable and fun, but I'm not sure how that would work currently

marsh geyser
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More systems to help the AWACS operator(s) control an airspace would be really nice

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stuff like a lot of radios and a list of all active friendly frequencies could help

idle fossil
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Yeah! I could see that. Like a second screen which shows all active frequencies currently in use by the team

marsh geyser
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this might be a bit of a stretch but allowing pilots to set themselves to be ready for tasking from the AWACS, and have the AWACS give them tasking could also be another interesting command and control feature. I doubt it would be used much in PVE, but PVP could be fun with it.

tropic pier
marsh geyser
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ohh yeah

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im just now realizing that a command and control aircraft/dlc would go so hard

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idk if its what baha wants out of VTOL tho

marsh geyser
tropic pier
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I reckon it ain’t. Most players wouldn’t be up for it either. VTOL is not a milsim after all

marsh geyser
idle fossil
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If it had the same datalink capability that the 5th gens had to track ground targets / radars, maybe

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But the NAV page does that anyways

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The datalink in game is stupid OP

scarlet shuttle
# idle fossil The datalink in game is stupid OP

this is honestly why I don’t think gci gameplay would be that effective it would be cool no doubt but with how good datalink is, it’s not hard to find targets. Although having one person controlling/suggesting who does what could be impactful and interesting in gameplay provided people listen

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i think it could be neat

idle fossil
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Yeah, but with how flexible gameplay is now, and people either not being told what to do, or have a rough outline with small choice in weaponry / tactics is what makes the game fun. No need to "lock down" what people can / should do

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That's getting a bit restrictive, IMO

scarlet shuttle
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i feel like it could work given the shift to more complicated and planned missions; it’s a trend albeit small that i’ve noticed as of late

idle fossil
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I think the way we run OPs makes perfect sense, locked loadouts, mission objectives, limited timeframe, but not every single target needs taken out

scarlet shuttle
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agreed

idle fossil
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Open World missions with multiple objectives are also fun, just to fly with your buddies too. I could totally see spectator slots added to some, but not all missions for Tanker and AWACS.

scarlet shuttle
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problem is it would practically never work in pubs which is what the game is primarily aiming to design around although we’ve gotten niche features before so who knows

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spectators count towards the 16 player limit right?

idle fossil
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We have low tech stuff, which is dubya's niche. He's trying to develop a whole sub-genre of gameplay dedicated just to that. I think if the AWACS were CATOBAR capable, it would be more functional.

I think you can have people spectate and not have a full lobby

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Like, 16 player slots for Aircraft, but more spectators

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I might (probably am) be wrong

scarlet shuttle
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I don’t think it’s something dlc worthy as a tangent

marsh geyser
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slightly off topic but wasnt CAW able to get like 50 ppl or something like that into a single lobby a while back?

scarlet shuttle
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yeah

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it was not a good time though from what I heard

marsh geyser
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yeah i would imagine it was insanely laggy

scarlet shuttle
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I think being able to have spectators beyond the player limit could be interesting if it’s feasible and the limit exists like i think it does

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thought for another time though

swift kite
swift kite
marsh geyser
swift kite
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oh i see

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okay

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still good to crosslink

marsh geyser
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yep

odd rover
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And yeah the lag was real bad

marsh geyser
odd rover
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But shockingly it was playable

marsh geyser
odd rover
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Headless Server

marsh geyser
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ahhhhh

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ok

odd rover
marsh geyser
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oh really?

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interesting

odd rover
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All we managed to get was a non moving carrier

marsh geyser
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didnt know that but it makes sense

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well thats pretty cool, thanks for the clarification

odd rover
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Yeah np

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I think our peak was like 60 players

marsh geyser
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damn

odd rover
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We mainly focused on getting screenshots with a full flight deck

marsh geyser
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maybe one day we'll get dedicated server infrastructure that can handle that many players

marsh geyser
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it was pretty cool

rough sleet
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I really like this idea, but it would 100% have to be a spectator feature. I know you can do the same in DCS, which is always fun

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I think ecw has it? I cant remember

real rampart
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even just having the AWACS thats in game by default be operable by a person in spectator could be cool

rough sleet
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Yeah it wouldn't be a dlc plane

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Imagine a bunch of 12 year olds trying to compete to be AWACS 😭

real rampart
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That would be a nightmare and a half to hear them screaming at people about targets

rough sleet
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They prove Dunning-Kruger effect

regal flax
rough sleet
# regal flax What’s rhat..

When someone knows less about a concept they believe that they are smarter/better than they are in reality. iirc one of the big things that proved it was 2 guys in Canada that robbed a bank without masks because they thought putting lemon juice on their faces would block the cameras from seeing them

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It's why when learning something knew, you can feel like you understand the concept or are really good at it but you eventually feel like you get worse after a while

regal flax
rough sleet
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sure

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anybody who does ewo in a public lobby

regal flax
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i meant as in

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valley of despair

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💔

granite pier
rough sleet
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lmao

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half the time I dont run jammers because why would I

real rampart
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tbf ive had a few half decent ewo

regal flax
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As the pilot

real rampart
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thats impressive if you can pull it off well

regal flax
regal flax
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It’s easy

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😭

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You just need FRAZ and XMIT to jam effectively

real rampart
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true

regal flax
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And a little bit of EW competence in this game goes a far way

swift kite
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i don’t take jammers when i solo 24

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just speed

regal flax
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💔

swift kite
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the EF-24G experience

regal flax
rough sleet
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and 4 million taxpayer dollars an hour of fuel