Meta: A More Central Devblog

[wild gale]

This community needs to change its collective underwear every time Baha so much as teases the implementation of a new idea. Let me put it this way: I would willingly subscribe to a patreon if it meant more insight into the machinations of Baha's mind. The recent introduction of #1243593308152791151, #1241384011113173162 , and #1241385856518848573 has led to an explosion of ideas, excitement, and engagement, and through the "in progress" tag Baha sparsely applies, is a step in this direction. People tell their friends, their friends go "damn I miss VTOL", and the number of players palpably increases.

A devblog, with no particular dates, but with an outline of Baha's favorite thus-proposed features or immediate / ongoing intents or progress, would be immaculate.
This ALREADY exists in the form of the discord query "from:BahamutoD" and several minutes of piecing together scattered messages. I am not asking for more work from Baha. I am asking for centralization. Too often do veteran discord members resurface ancient baha quotes to clarify information for other discord members. Let us forego this issue, and drive engagement that reaches not just VTOL VR discord veterans but less engaged discord members or even the VTOL community at large through steam.

I.e.:

"Hey everyone, this week I've (Baha) been investigating modern HARM features implemented to make sead a bit less point and click than it is now. I tested out some stuff. It didn't work, but, I'm considering trying X sometime next month when work lets up. You might not hear from me for a bit as a result!"

"The Logistics Update"
"Next week I'm looking at starting an overhaul involving new logistics truck, the AV42's soldier/supply-ferrying abilities, and a more granular supply system for mission creators to use, as well as the downed pilot system to give the AV42 more life. No promises on any of these!".

Baha once did this through youtube. Baha also used to maintain his website. Understandably, these mediums are too big a burden for frequent quality content. All I ask, is that steam or a new channel on discord gets more central communication of developer intent. A couple sentences, every so often, sharing not necessarily future plans or even ongoing work, but summarizing the already scattered thoughts Baha drops in this discord, and bringing them to a wider audience.

An immediate thumbs down, oh boy 😭

Understandable

Meta: A Roadmap (or more centralized communication of dev intent)

[plain raven]

I like the idea but also having a roadmap may make it like "oh how long is this going to take!!" etc..

(Even with no dates, knowing up comming updates may make people impatient and annoying)

[dim trail]

This is solved by reading #faq

That is as much of a roadmap as I think is appropriate

[wild gale]

The FAQ is a rather direct "Hey, things will be added"

[plain raven]

Its not really a roadmap. Its just saying The newest aircraft and that weather is being tested

[wild gale]

Baha himself via the discord query: "From: BahamutoD" is the real roadmap

[dim trail]

If you read it it's pretty clear about future features

[wild gale]

not at all

[plain raven]

I could go either way btw

[wild gale]

not compared to the discord search

the fact is Baha's intents and thoughts as a developer are very very decentrally communicated

[dim trail]

That doesn't really answer what you're talking about

[wild gale]

and propagate via rumor and quotes from more active members

"Oh actually baha said he was considering this three weeks ago >link"

[dim trail]

It's not really a rumor if he said it directly

I don't think this is necessary is my point

[wild gale]

right but you see my point though

its very decentral but exists rn

[dim trail]

Sure it's nice but a lot of people don't work like that

[wild gale]

it would be nice to have it central

[plain raven]

All FAQ says about future updates is that:
A: No HOTAS Support
B: The fact that new aircrafts bring new features
C: Weather is being tested

[wild gale]

Im saying lets get more central / frequent Baha announcements of intent

[dim trail]

The fact that new aircrafts bring new features

This is why far the most important thing

[wild gale]

again Id literally pay for a patreon devblog

[dim trail]

I just don't think that this is a feature request, if that's what the developer wants or how they operate than they can, but not all devs work like that

[wild gale]

heh hence the "Meta:" and "other" tag

[dim trail]

And it brings up other possible issues such as being impatient or if it doesn't work out disappointed

For a 1 person team it's a large ask

And frankly just unnecessary in my opinion

[wild gale]

The unturned dev is in a similar position as Baha

his devlogs garner much attention

Generally, devlogs do a lot for early access games

[plain raven]

Agree with him here, While a roadmap would be cool it has issues (Impatient / Disappoitment).

[wild gale]

or games in agressive development

[wild gale]

yeah thats valid

Not much to say there, Im just betting on this community being so rampant with goodwill to be able to tolerate some gentle announcements from baha

[plain raven]

If baha wanted to roadmap he would of prob already made one

[dim trail]

A roadmap is not at all the same as a devblog

And what you're describing in your feature request isn't really a devblog imo

[wild gale]

this post serves as an opportunity for the community to attempt to sway him with their votes

[wild gale]

alright Im gonna adjust it, one sec

[plain raven]

ye true

[dim trail]

Don't

[wild gale]

Meta: A Roadmap OR Central Devblog

[dim trail]

If you think that's best keep it imo

It's not a bad idea

I just don't think it's a good use of time

[severe estuary]

We do have a central devblog

#public_testing

[wild gale]

I wouldnt call that a devblog, its a chat ordained with occasional very sparse responses from baha

[severe estuary]

I more meant the pins

[wild gale]

ah sure yes, a dev... log.
I want to hear his thoughts man, not just the patchnotes

"Today I worked on this, here's why."

"Last week I and the test pilots quietly tried out this. Its not fun. Wont be adding it"

[severe estuary]

This would be awful lol

[wild gale]

accessing these insights currently is a 2-step process

[severe estuary]

Tell people what they nearly got but didn't is the quickest way to generate animosity

The whole reason teh test pilot branch exists is for that not to happen

[wild gale]

thats a sweeping claim, idk if its true

[dim trail]

I just don't think this is a good use of time unless it's something baha is genuinely interested in

[wild gale]

writing up a few more sentences a week is surely not some profound burden. Baha already frequently leaks some insights

discord search --> from: bahamutoD
Lets take those insights, and centralize them somewhere

[dim trail]

Right, but your suggestion is making it structured not just typed out thoughts

[wild gale]

not just scattered about this discord

hmm :/

I wont debate further as I agree with your concerns for the mooost part. In closing I think Im just slightly more optimistic about this community's tolerance.
I don't necessarily want MORE information from Baha. I just want to see it communicated more centrally and clearly. The small fraction of this game's community which frequents this discord, contains an even smaller fraction which checks in daily for that sweet sweet "From:BahamutoD" discord query, and then pieces together the scattered replies to understand what's coming next.

I have seen, in the last 2 weeks that I've heavily engaged with this discord, at least 10-15 occurrences of veteran members like @severe estuary quoting ancient Baha statements, to clarify someone else's question or concern.

"Yeah baha said he's working on it, see here"
"Baha said a long time ago he wouldn't do this"

Again, thats a discord veteran informing a VTOL VR enthusiast on discord (which itself represents only the small most enthusiastic fraction of this game's most engaged community). By better centralizing Baha's intentions as a developer, progress, and personal interest in features, we could better engage the larger community that less intensely interacts with this discord, IF AT ALL (surely discord is at most the top 15% engaged VTOL owners).

I hope that makes sense

Meta: A More Central Devblog

[dim trail]

This seems like a personal matter between you and whoever quotes baha to find the source of the quote

[wild gale]

LOL

nah I swear

[severe estuary]

I don't know about baha, but I defo wouldn't want every one off comment I made compiled into a youtube video and then shown to thousands of people.

Its why whenever I quote something old, I always make sure to mention that its an old message and that its caveated

And I really think a video that's just a list of thing's that won't be added would be bad lol

[wild gale]

:(
When did I say anything about compiling ancient comments into a video

thats not in my suggestion nor in the statements made in this thread so far

But I do see your point

Just, thats not what we're asking for

[severe estuary]

?

[dim trail]

Trust me anything said by a developer of a massive game like this will be taken and used and interpreted in hundreds of different ways by people speculating

[wild gale]

I feel misunderstood :((

which

[wild gale]

is ironic

heheh

alright guys alright

[plain raven]

I think he is saying that it would be cool if we could get a public list of possible features and NOT random baha quotes that are old

[tired zodiac]

Never publicly commit to anything you can't make happen now, unless you can't avoid it.
No good from this suggestion I think

[wild gale]

Browning for what its worth I want you to know that I appreciate you as an arbiter of realistic cynicism and preservation of the status quo

I see you shooting down both bad and mediocre ideas left and right

and I respect it a lot

o7

Id classify this one as mediocre at worst

[plain raven]

like:
"Is xxx feature planned?"
Check #[channel-here]

not:
"is xxx feature planned?"
Well baha mention that he wanted to add it a year ago [link to message]

thats what this summs down to i feel like

[wild gale]

^

thats closer yeah

[royal spoke]

IMO baha keeps engagement really well by releasing intermittent update packages, and he has said that he wants to avoid getting hopes up for features that dont make it, to the extent where he makes NDAs for his testers

i'm fine with how it is now

[dim trail]

But we currently have that, with #faq for major features that are asked for, #public_testing pins, and sorting this channel by the in progress tag

[royal spoke]

but some more info on plans for the next update, before PTB comes out would be great

like a "possibilities for next update/PTB"

and things to look out for

[plain raven]

(im still against this suggestion kinda cause i feel like cause baha is a solo dev its just makiing promises he might not be able to do as fallen mentioned above, im just helping w/ clerity)

[royal spoke]

no promises, just hypotheticals

[tired zodiac]

A better idea might be an unofficial community newsletter. Who wants to make that happen?

[dim trail]

This would be cool

[tired zodiac]

Make it happen if you want

[plain raven]

Not really..? Cause the existence of example B being said in my mesage above still happen.

[wild gale]

If I may:
"Im fine with how it is now" is the prevailing sentiment of those of you commenting:
@severe estuary
@royal spoke
@dim trail
@tired zodiac

However, you all share something in common, unlike Remy who is noticeably more ambivalent:
Loloris: 2.5k messages
Strike Eagle Chase: 89k messages
Fallen | CAW: 174 messages but a member of CAW
Browning: 2.7k messages

Remy: 608 messages

It is naturally the veterans who DO so frequently engage with this community who might fail to see the shortcomings of the status quo. I think we all underestimate the several hundred thousand VTOL VR owners who have no idea this discord exists.

It is those who would never see this post at all, who would most benefit from this idea

[royal spoke]

that is a very fair point

TBH, didnt think about that

[dim trail]

Probably yeah

[royal spoke]

but at that point i think it falls on us to spread the word

[tired zodiac]

I mean... It's disgusting with suggestions for reasons.

I guess that means in supporting the status quo in a way, but that's just a side effect

[wild gale]

So far you're downvoting, Im just asking for empathy for the outsiders

[royal spoke]

i've been spreading info through my main MILSIM, but a more general news thing would be cool

[wild gale]

Community newsletter is a cool idea

[royal spoke]

but like, where would it go to

[wild gale]

A sentence or two each week from Baha on steam is also a cool idea

[royal spoke]

just an image that gets spread around by hand

[plain raven]

This is was michaels suggestion is about basicly. Spreading word via one centerlized place and not through random links to old messages.

[wild gale]

^^

[dim trail]

The suggestion was a lot more than that

Hence the downvote, I just don't agree with what was written

[wild gale]

Read it again Ive made adjustments 😅
Im done touching it now I promise

[dim trail]

But that's only my opinion

There are thousands of others here

You don't need to win me over

[wild gale]

<3

[severe estuary]

But for the people who don’t know the discord exists, do they really much care about knowing that x y z features won’t be added? Or do they care that “15 niche bugs that have never effected you are now fixed, that’s it for the week!”

[plain raven]

hes made changes to it i think, and i was boiling it down ALOT

[royal spoke]

there's always more than that though

how about we leave this as a non-dev thing

and if we wanna spread the word around, we can do that separately

[plain raven]

Im not voting cause it would be cool but I also see why baha has not done it. (I dont think theirs no middle option)

[wild gale]

so cynical!

My claim: some of them might want to know
your claim: most of them don't

Do either of us really know?
And would the investment of a few sentences on Baha's behalf in return for, say, 3 more % of the like hundred thousand VTOL VR owners, really be a poor ROI? how may new engaged members would have to get involved for you to consider it worthwhile? genuinely

[royal spoke]

i think the PTB is enough of a statement

so many less people are on PTB than you might think

[plain raven]

I feel like constant updates and PTB are good enough ROI ngl, I know a bunch of developers who release a game then leave it

[severe estuary]

The problem is it’s not “only a positive”, there’s negatives as well

[wild gale]

Ill accept that yeah

Id love to see this tried for a brief bit

see what happens

but

im done, I appreciate you all for listening though

I no longer feel misunderstood heh

[wet solstice]

I guess there’s a chance there’s a developer who wouldn’t find this stressful, but I know I would

[plain raven]

^

[royal spoke]

@wild gale imma quickly throw together a sloppy review of the last week, and throw it together in paint 3d

[wild gale]

LOL

[royal spoke]

gotta get a font

typewriter

[wild gale]

And then screencap while you bounce around the mspaint

upload to youtube

"hi guys Loloris with the week in review"

"Solar eclipses are now in game!"

[wild gale]

"That logistics truck? coming soon"

stick figure with soflam

"JTAC is here to stay!"

[royal spoke]

gonna get milsim propaganda tabloids

[wild gale]

"The question on everyones mind. Will the av42 be able to deploy them??"

Man I'd drop manpads on mountain tops in PVP strike mission so fast

I digress.

If the community needs to summarize Baha's words for him, I guess we can

it really is low effort

people code dev trackers up all the time

see tarkovdevtracker

and the whole devtracker.com network

[severe estuary]

For what it’s worth I thought it would be good for baha to release a quick teaser for the stuff that’s on PTB, but not like a “dev log” but just a teaser for everything that was coming

[royal spoke]

i kinda agree with that

just stuff to look forward to

[wild gale]

See that feels like way higher effort than a few sentences on steam

[royal spoke]

i think he means like, screenshots, not really full teaser trailers

[wild gale]

I actually disagree with that lol like even ptb stuff is perhaps unconfirmed

[royal spoke]

like the ef-24 teaser

[wild gale]

huh

okay yeah

[severe estuary]

It’s extremely unlikely anything implemented on PTB would be removed

[wild gale]

reeeally

[severe estuary]

Just changed a bit of anything

[wild gale]

I suspected some work with weather might be undone given the concerns I hear about weather and Baha's use of "its being tested"

[severe estuary]

In the history of the game I can’t think of anything that was entirely removed from ptb

[wild gale]

Like I genuinely, as an avid reader of this discord, thought weather might not make it and this is just the second serious test of it in this game's history (it was, as Im sure you know, tested in the past, though perhaps not as openly)

[severe estuary]

To me that just reads that he’s figuring out what level of enabled it will be, and if additional measures have to be made for low perf users

Clouds were on test pilot to tell if they were viable at all first

[wild gale]

🥴
the case for for more direct communication of intent makes itself

[wild gale]

I see

[wild gale]

pog

[royal spoke]

not gonna log this in this channel, ill make a thread in https://discord.com/channels/319915885575798785/319915885575798785

[severe estuary]

I have been tempted to create “everything new in” videos for updates

Could be fun

[plain raven]

oo

I would watch those

[royal spoke]

you should

you have a better picture of whats going on

[spice lichen]

Now for a completely different rebuttal: this channel is for game features, not Meta Discord changes 😛

[wild gale]

“Other” tag do exist heh

[spice lichen]

This forum is for general VTOL VR feature requests relating to gameplay, weapons, equipment, playable aircraft, singleplayer and multiplayer.

[plain raven]

Theirs no discord suggestion channel

So close enough

[spice lichen]

I'd argue #vtolvrdev is closer 🤷‍♂️

[bronze summit]

idk ever had a journal or a diary?
its hard man

especially considering he would have to be careful to cause hype about this that may not work out

[white hatch]

When you compare a vr dev like Anton Hand and BahamutoD the difference in communication is day and night.

[tired zodiac]

Exactly how much time would you like Baha to switch from making new stuff for VTOL, over to making blogs or videos?
How much less VTOL content do you want so that there is more media?

The question is irrelevant anyway. VTOL is very clearly a passion project for Baha. He works on what he wants to work on and that's not dev blogs or videos.

[severe estuary]

Also there was a great recent example of it. Nebulus Fleet Command has pretty regular dev-log videos (its the type of game that they work well with), but those videos included a large feature that had been hyped up for awhile, and now is canceled. There was huge backlash to it being canceled.

The backlash was so bad they were basically forced to release the dev branch as an opt-in beta lol

Imagine if baha decided today to cancel clouds lol

[wild gale]

Baha can still cancel clouds, your point is moot

The point of pte is to be a test environment

[severe estuary]

My point is that it would be really bad in the community lol

[wild gale]

The community growing attached is a perhaps unfortunate reality but he “cancelled” clouds before, way back when they were a toggle for a tiny bit, and he still can today

[wild gale]

So he shouldve never communicated about clouds at all?

:/

[severe estuary]

He shouldn't have communicated them until he was very sure they were going to work

Which.. is what he did

[wild gale]

Did he?

Are you sure Baha is sure they’re going to work?

Is there a 100% chance theyre being introduced?

Or is it 99%

[severe estuary]

[wild gale]

??

I can do emojis too

My point is very valid

[severe estuary]

You are completely missunderstanding my point

[wild gale]

I think you fail to see the independence of your point from the underlying argument

[tired zodiac]

@wild gale
How much time would you like Baha to move from development to making media about development?
Enough so updates are delayed by days? Weeks? Months?
Dev time is zero sum.

[wild gale]

Communication good.
Balancing expectations and communication are not the same thing

This post has thoroughly

[severe estuary]

Your argument is "99% isn't 100% therefor everything you said was wrong"

[wild gale]

THOROUGHLY dissected this notion

[severe estuary]

Which, completely misses the point

[wild gale]

Bruh

Okay alright Ill accept we’re perhaps both confused, bear with me

My argument

Is that baha communicating clouds despite their arguably still not wholly certain inclusion

Is evidence of a risk with some reward

PTE has never been so active

And the community is blowing up

But clouds have some risk

[severe estuary]

PTB has been activen plenty of other times

[wild gale]

They may yet be removed

[tired zodiac]

Baha talked about cloud inclusion for more than a year before implementing it

[severe estuary]

That's extremely unlikely

[wild gale]

Just like the cancellation of nebulous’ conquest mode?

And thats apples to oranges btw, conquest in nebulous was half the gamplay loop

[severe estuary]

Your argument is that there's a 1% chance of something not being included, therefore baha should reveal things with a 90% chance of being not included and somehow saying they're the same

[wild gale]

It would be like baha cancelling radar and a2a combat

[wet solstice]

only if those weren't already released

[wild gale]

No no, YOUR argument is that things with a tiny risk of non inclusion are reason enough for reduced communication

And you bring nebulous to your defense

[severe estuary]

No my argument is a major risk of non-inclusion is reason

[wild gale]

Your argument hinges on your perception of nebulous

Perhaps thats where we fail to see eye to eye

A gameplay feature teased for over a year

Mentioned in several devlogs

And approaching a bugfix state

Youre telling me had major risk of non release

[severe estuary]

Yes?

[wild gale]

But clouds, introduced for no more than a few weeks now adter sparse mention for years

Is in fact far more guarunteed

Thats what youre saying?

[severe estuary]

I know plenty of the testers for nfc that said the same lol

[wild gale]

Okay

Look

[severe estuary]

Yes! Because baha did private testing first! It wouldn't be on PTB if it was unlikly to go live!

[wild gale]

Your involvement with this other random community and personal knowledge of the dev

[tired zodiac]

There was absolutely no guarantee that the technical obstacles clouds present could be overcome

[wild gale]

^^!!!

And yet it has been discussed!

And people love playing with it!

[severe estuary]

Only after those technical obstacles were over come????

Without getting murdered for my nda, clouds were tested tons before the public even got a whisper

[wild gale]

Are they? There are numerous complaints of ~40fps from the computationally poorer members of the community

[tired zodiac]

It was only discussed in the framing of "I don't think there is a way to do this" before PTB

[severe estuary]

If the technical challange was not over come, there would never have been a word of it

[wild gale]

This communication is still communication

Guys I think we are fully understood on clouds and nebulous

I dont agree with you but

Moving on

[wet solstice]

can slow mode be enabled so people can take a moment to think and write? It just feels like shouting at at the moment

[wild gale]

The point is communication is great

[tired zodiac]

Move on to my question

[wild gale]

Including “clouds are so hard but im working on then rn” communication

[wild gale]

Was about to :)

The answer is 10 minutes a week is a drop in the ocean

[severe estuary]

The <1% of users that say its not playable seems like the challenges are over come

[wild gale]

To aggregate the scattered commentary and thoughts of the public testing channel into a cohesive 3 sentence paragraph

[wild gale]

Oh lovely

[tired zodiac]

Baha already spends more time than this communicating with the community

[wild gale]

And yet its scattered and decentralized

And only beterans of the community follow it closely

[tired zodiac]

Ok, so you want more than 10mins?

[wild gale]

By using discord search queries

[wild gale]

No?

10 more minutes

[wet solstice]

those that want it will seek it out

[tired zodiac]

Straight up one query. Search with from:

[wild gale]

Im sure thats why the entire field of advertising was never invented

[wild gale]

If its so easy then surely Baha can gather his thoughts in a cohesive sentence here and there

[tired zodiac]

Searching with from: user ID the centralised place for everything baha communicated

[wet solstice]

development notes are not a product

[wild gale]

And put it outside discord

[wild gale]

They are in early access titles

[tired zodiac]

Why?

[wet solstice]

this is not an early access title, Baha is not trying to encourage pre-purchase with hype

[wild gale]

Because it would engage more than the miniscule fractioj of this community

Which uses discord

The larger VTOL community is disengaged

[tired zodiac]

What platform do you think would have more visibility than the discord?

[wild gale]

Steam

The little update patch notes? Just a little “hey guys heres whats up”

Once a week? Twice a month? Still better than the 4 months of silence between cool updates

[severe estuary]

I think its extremely facetious to make the claim that more users hidden read steam forms than would read discord. Look at the activity on the game forms vs here

[wet solstice]

also there is such a thing as too much noise - the PTB channel is already full of off-topic shit (I too am guilty), having more of the community involved noisily may not be a good thing for getting useful feedback

[wild gale]

I think its facetious to think that steam engagement and discord works the same

Just because a post on steam diesnt have the same upvotes as a discord forum

Or spawn 42 scattered sub discussions (and probably four new a-10 request threads) doesnt make it bad

In fact it makes it good

As @wet solstice points out

[wet solstice]

... I was suggesting that perhaps the current level of engagement was the right amount as far as Baha was concerned

[wild gale]

Im saying noise is bad i agree with you

[lyric loom]

I would say that a very very vague roadmap that focuses on general ideas might be worth it. Anything too specific leads to people begging for a release date

That said a supporter qna could be cool

[wild gale]

It really surprises me how much people disagree with this. In the time it takes me, a human, to gather one iota of argument, one measly little paragraph in this thread, so too could BahamutoD type 5 cohesive utterances into steam and hit post. I ask for so little.

[lyric loom]

Basically just what GHPC does

[wet solstice]

I absolutely love reading developer insights about their decisions and processes. I seek them out for a lot of my favourite games and have done so for years.

I recognize that this takes work in the short term and has knock-on effects such as community expectation and rudeness.

[lyric loom]

It’s not that it’s an insane amount of work for him to say anything, it’s just annoying for him and frankly everyone to deal with the ___ when??? Spam that will happen

Imo a more vague and long term thing would be better

[severe estuary]

What im mostly against is revealing canceled or upcoming features, just collecting whats said in discord is probably more-ok, though I struggle to see the benefit

[bronze summit]

Are you under the impression baha has bad communication with us???

anton is mega based tho

[white hatch]

from:bahamutoD has to be the top search query in discord by now

[bronze summit]

bro just like talk to the dude if you got a good question

[white hatch]

pinging the dev is arguably more obstructive IMO

[bronze summit]

yea don't ping him just like talk to him when you see him

[white hatch]

once in a bluemoon

[bronze summit]

anyways he's giving a plenty updates in public testing

[white hatch]

to be fair he has periods of time where he's really active

but then it's darkness for a month

[bronze summit]

but idk i don't find any issue with him just popping in to tell us whats going on in the public test then talking for a bit then popping out

actually i really disliked that point so i deleted it its true but also obnoxious

[lime jasper]

it does kinda suck when people pull out old baha quotes and you're like "damn i didn't know that"

maybe add some more points in https://discord.com/channels/319915885575798785/756543573608104098 and call it a day

[cunning kettle]

I understand the desire for a blog but I don't think it will work well for me. Most of the time, the moment I'm ready to talk about something I'm working on or is upcoming is the moment it gets posted on #public_testing or in a trailer. A lot of the time, I don't know how much time I have over the next week or month to work on VTOL VR and often have to cut back on or delay a lot of things I have intentions to work on. Just follow public_testing if you want to see what's going on.

Also, I spent 20 mins organizing my thoughts for this reply, so it would take a lot more than 10 minutes to decide what to put in a dev log. It's just not something I'm geared for I guess

[lime jasper]

fair

[white hatch]

from nuclear option

(i'd forgot baha had already responded to this but I'll keep the message in here to avoid confusion nevertheless)

[distant rivet]

(reminder that Nuclear option has an actual team of several people working it, not a single person)

[eternal pumice]

Isn’t their entire team like 3-5 people.

[stable copper]

thats still 3-5 times larger of a team than baha

[fading canyon]

^

being able to work on stuff in parallel is a massive boost