#🤔｜theories

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high talon
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I mean i dont recall ever seeing the image in a devlog that looked like the one you spoke of

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Like cant for the life of me recall it

azure bay
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I'm speaking of a guy that has seen it on demo & wrote about it on reddit

floral mauve
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I wouldnt believe TPW will be 3D since thats not very rusty lake stuff. However, they might use some 3D tricks in Puzzles

azure bay
floral mauve
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I mean 3D is like a room with clear physical objects and more realistic stuff

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in a general way

azure bay
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I think someone misunderstands something

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I can't get what physical objects u are talking about

floral mauve
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nvm

floral mauve
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what was your theory

floral mauve
azure bay
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another idea shown during the demo is diving deeper & deeper into memories

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Inception style

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you find a cube and enter it to proceed to the next level

floral mauve
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samsara?

azure bay
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more like Paradox

floral mauve
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or seasons

floral mauve
azure bay
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in the ending you get a black cube

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inside it starts another level

floral mauve
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I think seasons is more alike in the case you describe it

azure bay
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not exactly

floral mauve
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you get a black cube

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in the end of each level

azure bay
floral mauve
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?

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I dont get it

azure bay
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in Seasons you seem to "escape the memory" with cube

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in Paradox, you enter it

floral mauve
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bruh

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hbt Samsara room

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you sort of enter the cube

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in each scene

azure bay
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in SR the cube is literally the room & not the memory so Paradox is still the closest one

floral mauve
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bruh

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I didnt think of it

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lol

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I still dont get whats the big deal behind it

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getting the cube

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in the end of each level

azure bay
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a cube inside a cube inside a cube & so on

floral mauve
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oh

azure bay
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that's Paradox

floral mauve
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perception

azure bay
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but the cube is the same

floral mauve
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I get it

azure bay
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& the Inception movie

floral mauve
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so TPW you believe it like that?

azure bay
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at least according to older ideas

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however

floral mauve
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I doubt the result is gonna change

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the death of Albert

azure bay
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& the logo is a cube inside a cube

floral mauve
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referring to multiplayer

azure bay
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this logo was mostly the same in 2018

floral mauve
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oh, they have this idea back in 2018?

azure bay
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alongside 20k BC

floral mauve
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I thought they were focusing on TWD

azure bay
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TWD became a thing (at least officially) much later

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the only thing that would tease it in Paradox would be Second Maze logo

floral mauve
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dont remember

azure bay
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idea, teaser & development are 3 separate things

floral mauve
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I wasnt focusing on RL community back then, I played from 2015-2016, then caught up in early this year

floral mauve
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teaser for 20k bc

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if the devs sort of cancelled it

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it would not be helpful if we interpret on it

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since the plot might be changed

azure bay
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I'm not interpreting on it, I just mention another teaser that got understood just recently

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And, as I think about it, 20k BC may be put away because of priorities

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  1. they needed TPW in order to launch Second Maze
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  1. they needed CEC to save the older games
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  1. they needed SR as anniversary gift
floral mauve
azure bay
floral mauve
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thats true

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since they are able to fabricate such dedicate work

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I appreciate it

azure bay
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I assume, they decided to focus on TPW because it's more interesting, it's more fanservice & it was teased more

slow ridge
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Hey guys, I wonder.. why Mr. Bat is completely a Bat in The Cave?

azure bay
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I see it just as an unrelated bat. But it's my personal opinion

slow ridge
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Well, it's a possibility, of course. Same with the Pigeon of Harvey's Box.

azure bay
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They are. But, as one smart guy said, possible & plausible are different qualities

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I'll wait for more substantial evidence before marking 2 bats (1 of which isn't cooperative towards employers) of 2 seemingly different sizes as one.

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And pigeon is more like deer's case here

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Yet it still acts way too strange

covert wyvern
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observations: laura dies in autumn 1971, when you play through seasons and interact with Harvey during autumn they imitate Laura's scream, this could imply Harvey witnessed the moment laura dies.

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thank you for coming to my tedtalk.

azure bay
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well

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for me it's not even a theory

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but fact))))))

covert wyvern
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LMAO I Mean

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fair

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but I felt like it was worth sharing here either way crowgiggle

slow ridge
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What I don't have very clear is that if Laura suicided or if she got killed by her CS, because I saw a reddit post some time ago about that Seasons is about suicide, and that Laura as the player kills Harvey as Laura. Its weird to explain. Let me see if I find it

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Found it

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floral mauve
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the way she died might be arguable

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but there is a certain fact

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She was dead

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the death is real

ebon aspen
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so... harvey is actually laura?

slow ridge
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In seasons maybe

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Also it has other look there, looks smaller, his (or her) gray is darker and the green too

slow ridge
astral frost
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Harvey died in Hotel, after the Guests' attack

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Mr Owl helped him being reborn into an Animal

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So he performed the transformation "Asura -> Animal" after his death

azure bay
azure bay
floral mauve
bronze prism
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Is it official in the game

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Like, the real name?

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I didn't knew that :o

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That actually sounds very good

bronze prism
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Harvey and Laura are the same person?¿

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I'm so confused I'm just going to forget it

ebon aspen
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the channel name isnt "theories" for no reason XD

bronze prism
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Sometimes I read the theories and I'm just like this: MitozaThonk Rosesweat

ebon aspen
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believe in what you want, its rusty lake after all, we have no truth here

bronze prism
astral frost
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It's the real name, often depicted in Sanskrit

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We could translate it "Demi-God"

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Something like super-humans who didn't reach the higher stage, the God one

slow ridge
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And iirc, it's based on de Indian mythology right?

floral mauve
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pls study samsara wheel for a better understanding of theories😂

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otherwise our conversation is like coded

azure bay
floral mauve
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William and Harvey cant exist in the same time can they?

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if they are the same person

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while we seeing William in the samsara

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Harvey is earning his wages

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in the hotel

azure bay
floral mauve
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employee of the year

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It is very unlikely

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for Harvey to be Laura

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since rusty lake already did the trick

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of revealing William is Laura

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in next life

azure bay
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& Harvey could be William-Laura's past or future life if we fetch this far enough

floral mauve
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however, I dont think this was the OP's intension

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of that post

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I think he meant the Harvey in Seasons is a reflection on Laura

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in Fall

azure bay
floral mauve
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Laura didnt kill Harvey in real life but killed herself

azure bay
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(meant)

floral mauve
azure bay
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k, I get it

floral mauve
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so basically Seasons is just Laura's reflection of her late life until Winter

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With symbols

azure bay
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but symbolism, imo, doesn't cancel possibility of that being also canon

floral mauve
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certainly

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but just saying

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this doesnt mean

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Laura is Harvey

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in reality

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this is a tecnique in literature

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she killed Harvey to foreshadow her own death

azure bay
floral mauve
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I mean

floral mauve
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to the player

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the author used this tecnique

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plus, this is the first official work of the studio

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except the ancient version of SR

azure bay
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The Lake came out earlier by accident

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but either way

azure bay
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another thing is, it's weird to see Laura's own CS killing her & then reviving

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such a consistent behavior :з

floral mauve
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Laura was likely to be partially corrupted like Bob

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Bob in the white door was taken over control by his corrupted form completely

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in day 6

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maybe in Laura's case its the same, but her CS did it in an extreme way

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probably also wanted to end the pain in Laura

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she was depressed anyway

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perhaps both murder and committing suicide

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they may not contradict

azure bay
floral mauve
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certainly

floral mauve
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her CS is much more extreme than Bob's CS

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at least Bob's CS is able to sleep on a bed and not floating around

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plus

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one part I dont really understand

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what is the state of Laura

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she isnt like the guests

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who are purely preta

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Laura is like a body switching between Human and Preta

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that also might mean that she is not dead completely??

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theoretically, her flesh body would be useless for the CS

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thats the part I dont get

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it makes it seems like the CS is rest in the corpse

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only the instable black cube memory can trigger it

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in the Mill

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I have two possibilities here:

  1. her body is from the family tree and it is special
  2. her CS is special
azure bay
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I assume, she just has a possibility of being revived.

But still, I don't get why you continue that Laura-Bob parallel.
Ok, she was partially corrupted earlier like Bob. Ok, her CS was more extreme. That still does not answer why the very same CS stopped being extreme & started doing productive things.

floral mauve
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I belive not all the CSs are the same

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even though the majority of the cases, the CSs are aggressive

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but we have seen some rational ones

azure bay
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you mean, the killing CS & the reviving one are different?

floral mauve
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?

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no

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I mean Laura's CS is the same

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but Bob CS, Caroline CS, William CS

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they are all different

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in terms of its behaviour

azure bay
floral mauve
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Laura CS is extra aggresive

azure bay
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it was self-destructive, I'd tell

floral mauve
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yes

azure bay
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but then it ceased being so

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why?

floral mauve
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I would say it wants to be left along

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want to rest in peace

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and possibly die

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no will to revive

azure bay
floral mauve
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you dont want to be dragged to a machine and started torturing when you just want to sleep and die like a normal CS

floral mauve
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which takes it in an extreme path

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ending her pain for example

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by killing her

azure bay
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but still, the problem stays the same

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it eventually revives Laura

floral mauve
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why though

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I think it wants to be left alone

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wait

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maybe

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yes

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revive Laura is better than left her in pain I would say

azure bay
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I'm starting being confused

floral mauve
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so basically her CS wants to end her pain and then maintain her body by becoming a sort of parasite in her corpse

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until idk, an opportunity to revive her?

azure bay
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I doubt the maintaining part

floral mauve
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she didnt become a skeleton didnt she?

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its either the tree did its part

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or CS

azure bay
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or Owl

floral mauve
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emmmm

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true

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too many factors on Laura

azure bay
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here we once again face The Mill paradox

floral mauve
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tell me

azure bay
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Was it a seamless time skip caused by narrative reasons or did the time actually stop, as it was in the old man story from Case 23?

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here are solutions for Laura's, let's say, freshness in both cases

floral mauve
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doubt the time actually stops

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otherwise why do they still need elixir fragment

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from the dog

azure bay
slow ridge
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Hihi how's the theorists doing? What's the topic now?

azure bay
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the same

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but from a different side

slow ridge
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Oh

azure bay
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we're talking about Harvey being a metaphor for Laura's CS killing Laura

floral mauve
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even fixed of the slit wound

azure bay
floral mauve
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also

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she was out of the Mill

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after

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escaped turning corrupted

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I didnt know how Owl captured her after

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but he did

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somehow

azure bay
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It's not important rn

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What is important for Laura in The Mill

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If the time actually stopped, Laura wouldn't rot

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If it was a timeskip, the clock woupd preserve her body

floral mauve
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either way

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its beyond Owl I think

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It is already impressive that Owl can control space

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it would be unbelievable if he can control time as well

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space and time

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you have to be Deva

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Speaking of clock

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its unexplainable

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beyond the logical understanding

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its like a damn fridge

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preserving William and Laura's body

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stored Rose

azure bay
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Either way, something seems to be stopping the time

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Both in The Mill & The Cave

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I see no reason for keeping Laura for approximately a year

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I also see Dale not growing his beard since descending down the lake

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For freaking months

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& telling who or what stops time is mere speculating

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Let's return to Laura

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I don't think her CS had a plan

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It was dorming or smth

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Until it was awakened

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& then it went mad

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Killing almost everyone around

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I tend to think that most of CS are agressive at first

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But later may calm down

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I see no reason for Laura's one being so pissed about its existence if it already existed before

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@floral mauve

floral mauve
floral mauve
floral mauve
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what do you think about the intension of Laura's CS of killing Laura

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I think its helping Laura by releasing her from pain

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what do u think

azure bay
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The only one I can imagine is ceasing to exist.
That would also be the case if it was Dale's CS because it would probably appear because of Dale dying for Laura.

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Or just not ascending because of her & evenrually dying

floral mauve
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fair enough

floral mauve
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spawn again

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so Laura's CS killed Laura just because it doesnt want to exist

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I have heard in Buddihism that Pretas are always in pain

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like suffering

azure bay
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Yeah, that's what my reasoning is based on

floral mauve
azure bay
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I've recalled another possibility

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The van Gogh based one

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Laura wanted to destroy a scary-self in the mirror & accidentally killed herself

floral mauve
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oh

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lol

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thats a funny one

azure bay
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Well... I made it sound funny

floral mauve
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just slit my throat because I wanna eliminate something inside me

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yey

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thats sort of reckless

azure bay
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It pretty much seems to be the case in Arles

floral mauve
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Van Gogh only cut his ear

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I think

azure bay
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You forget the gun part

floral mauve
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?

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thats after right?

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like a couple years later

azure bay
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Yes, he shot the corrupted guy in the mirror. (not sure about the timeline here. It was just after)

floral mauve
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even Dale sort of breaking the mirror

azure bay
floral mauve
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in theatre and Case 23

azure bay
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In Theatre he was flickering after The Cave

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In Case 23 nothing like that

floral mauve
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I know

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I am saying the mirror

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cracked

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with CS partly appeared

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when this happened

azure bay
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Theatre

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Roots in William's case

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BUT

floral mauve
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does that mean he sort of punching the mirror

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lol

azure bay
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not in Seasons, not in Arles, not in another Roots level

floral mauve
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?

azure bay
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I'm saying that CS don't always break mirrors & windows

floral mauve
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I know

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I mean

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Dale broke the glass

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like Van Gogh

azure bay
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van Gogh did not

bronze prism
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... what

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Oh

floral mauve
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I dont remember playing Arles (last time I play it, it was in April)

azure bay
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He basically shot himself

floral mauve
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like the last part

bronze prism
azure bay
bronze prism
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But the mirror is still intact

azure bay
bronze prism
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Hmm

azure bay
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van Gogh killed a corrupted-self, so Laura could as well

bronze prism
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Arles is right after paradise and much closer to hotel

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Hotel is next to Gogh's house

floral mauve
bronze prism
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Doesn't that mean we have a location?

floral mauve
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He killed himself

azure bay
bronze prism
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I mean-- we open the windows and we see the hotel--

azure bay
bronze prism
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Then that mean he visited the hotel

floral mauve
bronze prism
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Or saw it somewhere

azure bay
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Because there is no lakes & mounts in Arles' proximity

bronze prism
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Have you ever seen the other side of the painting...

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Maybe, who knows

azure bay
bronze prism
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The original painting

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Maybe he was painting a view from his house

azure bay
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Dude, van Gogh did a ton of paintings

bronze prism
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From the same place?

azure bay
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Which one do you mean?

bronze prism
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Arless

azure bay
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Ok so

bronze prism
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The painting at the window and the one at the end, I'm not an expert in the paintings

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The one in CE birthday

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At the card

azure bay
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The original Bedroom in Arles did not feature a distinct view through the window if any

floral mauve
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starry sky

bronze prism
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Huh

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YESS

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That's the name

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I guess

azure bay
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The Starry Night, on its behalf, was made elsewhere

floral mauve
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lol sorry

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not an expert

bronze prism
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How do you know that?

azure bay
bronze prism
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Hm

floral mauve
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bruh

bronze prism
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Impressive but I never learned that 😅

azure bay
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Van Gogh was held in st. Paul asylum when he drew the starry night

bronze prism
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Huh

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WHAT IF

floral mauve
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parallel

bronze prism
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The asylum IS the white door institute

floral mauve
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possibility

azure bay
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Agree

floral mauve
bronze prism
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Oh yeah

floral mauve
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its in 19th century

bronze prism
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When did it was created? I don't know the exact time

floral mauve
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TWD is in 20th century

bronze prism
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Ohh

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Ok

azure bay
floral mauve
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I thought 1960

bronze prism
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Maybe a new game about this?

floral mauve
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omgbobFacepalm

bronze prism
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That would be interesting

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Yes, I know 😅

covert wyvern
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Seems very unlikely.

bronze prism
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He's the kind of forgotten characters

floral mauve
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yep

bronze prism
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That's sad.

floral mauve
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they are from netherland

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the devs

bronze prism
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Where?

covert wyvern
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It's because he's just sorta there once.

floral mauve
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Holland

covert wyvern
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Probably because of the Dutch roots.

bronze prism
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Sorry I will have to go to Google

covert wyvern
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That's fair.

azure bay
bronze prism
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Ohhh "holanda" ok

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I thought it was nether from Minecraft, I thought it was a joke

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Sorry

floral mauve
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bruh

bronze prism
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I'm really sorry :/

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:I is better

floral mauve
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no problem

bronze prism
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So, back to the theory

floral mauve
bronze prism
floral mauve
bronze prism
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Like in birthday?

floral mauve
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like a lot

bronze prism
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Waht

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I'm in confusion

floral mauve
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the painting is in many RL games

bronze prism
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Oy

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Oh*

floral mauve
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thats what I would say

bronze prism
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Ohhhh that kind of easter egg

floral mauve
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mini easteregg

bronze prism
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Yes yes

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But maybe something to add to the history

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Like in CE birthday

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When the CS escaped the hotel

floral mauve
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Not really

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in Birthday, Arles didnt add anything in the history

bronze prism
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Maybe something that inflicted in the future?

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Something to add the poor Gogh

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He's cool

floral mauve
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Just like Damy said, Arles is only for dutch purpose

bronze prism
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;(

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That's sad, but still very cool

floral mauve
bronze prism
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So, Arles give us the proof that there are a lot of other Corrupted Souls around the world right?

floral mauve
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not the proof

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but a fact

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you gotta study samsara

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in order to understand many things

bronze prism
floral mauve
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pls do

bronze prism
covert wyvern
bronze prism
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Fact = fato, proof = prova (similar)

floral mauve
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its a fact

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if you see the core of samsara

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just go and look it up

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you will be enlightened

bronze prism
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Ok this is starting to get weird, but I will check it out

covert wyvern
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Welcome to RL crowgiggle crowgiggle

bronze prism
floral mauve
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preta is just a form of our soul

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so does human

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animal

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asura

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it is getting weird indeed if you dont know those terms

bronze prism
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When I entered the game I just thought it was cool because there was a killer rabbit Rosesweat

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What language are those?

floral mauve
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Damy

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answer it

bronze prism
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Damy?

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Ou

floral mauve
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I dont remember

bronze prism
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Oh*

floral mauve
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sanskit

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the language used in Buddhism

floral mauve
bronze prism
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Sanskrit maybe?

floral mauve
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yes

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that

bronze prism
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Oh ok

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Sanskrit... What

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They are polyglots

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Dutch gouda cheeese

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This make a lot of sense now

floral mauve
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those devs do do a lot of researches

bronze prism
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Yeah

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To give us the best experience LauraLove

slow ridge
azure bay
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Guys, I was wrong

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Maybe not completely

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But enough to question "van Gogh being to hotel" theory

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@bronze prism @floral mauve

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There are actually 2 starry night paintings by van Gogh

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The less popular one actually depicts Arles

floral mauve
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Wha

slow ridge
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@azure bay, you mean "Starry Night over the Rhône"? It depicts a Lake, so I guess it makes sense

slow ridge
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However, what's the "van Gogh being to the hotel" theory?

hoary lichen
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I think it’s about how if you enter a code in the door in Arles you get to see the hotel through the window

bronze prism
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What if it wasn't an illusion at all??

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The hotel is in the middle of a lake

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We can see that because of the boat guy easter egg

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That means we have a location

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If we know where are Gogh's house in the real life we can calculate the location of the hotel!

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Where would it be in real life!

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Ok I don't know how to write in English

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I know where Gogh's house is

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Ok I will try

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Wait a second MrcrowKnife

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WRONG TEXT SORRY

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Ok, location: Stockwell, London

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Another house was in: Paris, Rue Lepic n° 54

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Starry night: July 1889

grizzled bluff
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Arles takes place in Arles, seemingly

bronze prism
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Here it says arles was painted when we was in Paris

grizzled bluff
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The painting depicts van Gogh's bedroom at 2, Place Lamartine in Arles, Bouches-du-Rhône, France, known as the Yellow House.

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I think it's a very interesting idea to look at a real world location like that for more info

bronze prism
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But what about the window, that mean this was in arles after all?

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The house, it was in arles then?

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Thank you for giving me a "light"

grizzled bluff
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It might also have all been mental
So while the painting is still a rendition of the real world location, the window is purely in his mins

bronze prism
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Brazilian expression that I don't know how to translate sorry

bronze prism
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Not good

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I prefer to think it was irl

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It's a theory, there's still a possibility

grizzled bluff
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Lightbulb moment

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I think it'd be very interesting if it were real

bronze prism
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OK LOOK AT WHAT I FOUND

grizzled bluff
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Oh?

bronze prism
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The location of the yellow house

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I lost the Wikipedia location, but in maps it says 1 Av. Stalingrad, 13200 Arles, France

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Oh

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My

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Gooodneeesss

covert wyvern
bronze prism
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Look at this information that I found

bronze prism
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No, I mean-- the address I found in Google

bronze prism
grizzled bluff
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I think the address is 2, Place Lamartine in Arles, Bouches-du-Rhône, France
Is that what you were looking for? Cause thats what Damy meant and I'm confused too XD

grizzled bluff
bronze prism
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What if--

bronze prism
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And I found it in google maps itself

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The Wikipedia said the same thing

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I found wiki address and it's the same

bronze prism
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I searched it in maps but it asked me if the address was right

bronze prism
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It really is the yellow house

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There is even a street view

grizzled bluff
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"The building was severely damaged in a bombing raid by the Allies on June 25, 1944,[6] and was later demolished. "

bronze prism
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Yes, but it was restored

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That's why there is a building in there

grizzled bluff
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No? It was demolished

bronze prism
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And it's like that forever

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?

grizzled bluff
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Anything else build in its place isn't thr same building

bronze prism
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The river is still a good bet

grizzled bluff
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Demolished=totally removed

bronze prism
grizzled bluff
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That's true!

bronze prism
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The house no longer exists, but with this location we have the confirmation of the true location of the hotel in real life

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I know it doesn't exist

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But we can add a lot of context to the whole series!

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A location is really good

grizzled bluff
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A river isn't a lake tho XD

bronze prism
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At paradox map we can see a lot of those

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Oh no! Paradox map MitozaPensive

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Our theory is destroyed

grizzled bluff
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My own theory is that the RL world is simply one that runs in magical realism
The lake is wherever it needs to be

covert wyvern
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The paradox map is clearly fictional

grizzled bluff
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Not in the sense of real world writing
But literally
It teleports

covert wyvern
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I wouldn't look into that one too much

bronze prism
bronze prism
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Paradox map make sense after all

covert wyvern
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No it doesn't.

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It's just dale's memories in the shape of a map

bronze prism
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-_- thinking

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Got it?

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Ok got it

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Then it's dale memories

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But heyy

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Even if the memories are blurry there is still truth in the map

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At chapter one he wasn't corrupted at all, and rusty lake never said CS don't have their memories

covert wyvern
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Yes obviously some locations on the map are in fact locations visited by dale

bronze prism
grizzled bluff
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I think it's more like
If you had to draw all of the important places in your life ever
But you only got the map of your home city to do it
You can't, because some of those spaces were from a totally different section of the country/world
So they get a semi-random spot, while other things remain accurate

bronze prism
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Where are you taking those informations

covert wyvern
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from the games? we know Dale investigates multiple locations while trying to solve Lauras murder,

bronze prism
covert wyvern
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"Theatre" for example is on the paradox map and also a location he visits.

bronze prism
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In case 23 for example, the chapel is close to the cabin, that means the cabin is close to the mill

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There is sense

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In the map of paradox

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And it's the only real clue we have

covert wyvern
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no it isn't.

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lmao

bronze prism
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Another map then?

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Other that case 23 that don't give us any kind of measure

covert wyvern
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here's your map.

unknown.png
bronze prism
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In CE cave we also have a map without measure

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This is not a map

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Lol

covert wyvern
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not sure why it wouldn't be

bronze prism
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This is an image

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There is no measure in this

covert wyvern
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it clearly has landmarks around the lake visible

grizzled bluff
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We know how tall the buildings roughly are

bronze prism
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Ok, with this "map" we know the hotel is next to the roots house

grizzled bluff
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You can absolutely get semi accurate measurements and calculate distance

bronze prism
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That's all

covert wyvern
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no we see the lake is surrounded by mountains, the hotel is in the middle of the lake

grizzled bluff
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It has several locations

bronze prism
grizzled bluff
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Dale has never been there

covert wyvern
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maybe because the map isn't real crowgiggle

bronze prism
covert wyvern
bronze prism
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We cannot see

cerulean crypt
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About map

bronze prism
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Any of the other sides

cerulean crypt
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There is one in CE cave

bronze prism
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That means there might still exist some exits of the lake

bronze prism
covert wyvern
bronze prism
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This map really doesn't mean a lot of things

covert wyvern
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the lake is wherever it needs to be.

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it has multiple entries and exits

bronze prism
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I was talking about the lake itself, the location

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Not teleportation

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This map only give us a certain view of the hotel

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But we can't see what's beyond the mountain

covert wyvern
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im unsure why you're so deadset on the lake not being able to teleport

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it's magical, so why wouldn't it be able too.

bronze prism
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No one ever said it was magic, and it has never been confirmed it teleport

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Memories and parallel dimensions are real in RL

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However, I'm pretty sure a lot of RL happened in real life

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This map really doesn't give us any kind of clue about how long the lake is

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And another good fact

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Is that we can't see the hotel from the cabin

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That means the location in the paradox map is right

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At least for the cabin

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Paradox map is still the best clue we have for this, it give us the location of a lot of places

covert wyvern
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Except

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the cabin in the paradox map is located on an ocean, not a lake.

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the mill is on an island, not the main land.

bronze prism
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It was never said it was in main land

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Cabin neither

covert wyvern
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except it is?

covert wyvern
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im pretty sure that's the cabin here in the back.

unknown.png
bronze prism
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This may not be the mill we see in CE Mill

covert wyvern
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Except it is, because the mill has a view off the chapel.

bronze prism
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And the chapel is?

covert wyvern
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on the lakebed.

unknown.png
bronze prism
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Oh my goodness the creators should DEFINITELY give us a map with everything

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This is so confused

covert wyvern
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It's meant to be confusing 😉

bronze prism
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Why in cabin we don't see land in the windows?

bronze prism
covert wyvern
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because the two walls that would look out onto land are windowless.

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No

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no it really shouldn't.

bronze prism
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The story, they wouldn't be that careful with the history if it was meant to be confused

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I don't think that's what they wanted when they created the games

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They wouldn't want this to be messy, they are very careful with the story

covert wyvern
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and that's exactly why we don't have a clear map 😉

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it's meant to be mysterious and unknown.

bronze prism
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This really give a giant gap in the history

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A location is important, very important

covert wyvern
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No it's not.

bronze prism
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Ok then-- but it's still very confusing

covert wyvern
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the Lakes location, while a really interesting mystery, is one of the least important aspects of the story, if you ask me.

bronze prism
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Rusty lake might be kinda weird

covert wyvern
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Yes it definitely is.

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now, could the lake be in France? when looking at these mountains id say ye.

unknown.png
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but there's a giant inconsistency with that if you consider roots: the war uniform worn is not of French origin.

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and the French's blue garbs do quite stand out!

cerulean crypt
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Some people say that Canada is the place

covert wyvern
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aye.

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I personally believe that Rusty Lake is just wherever it needs to be.

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It's a really "boring" answers, all things considered.

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but it's what I thinK!

cerulean crypt
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Rusty lake is outside reality and had several entrances and exits

covert wyvern
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Ye!

real lantern
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Its like the wanderer's library

nocturne yarrow
bronze prism
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Thank you for the enlightenment LauraLove OKcrow

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That make sense thank you :)

azure bay
bronze prism
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Ok... Sorry

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This conversation is already over... No intention to be rude or anything

azure bay
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I'm not rude. I'm just cringing XD

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It's a thing I already told once or twice

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And it's a simple research

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Alright sry

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Got impulsive on seeing these mistakes

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So didn't bother to read the following deconstruction of their

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@bronze prism btw I've posted a long article on ALL imaginable locations of the lake

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Interested to read?

azure bay
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that seems to be associated with the hotel

bronze prism
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Did anyone tag me in here

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O

bronze prism
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I love to read interesting things

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If my messages take long to send it's bc my internet sucks outside

azure bay
bronze prism
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Okeh

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Exactly 1 hr later

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Noice.

azure bay
bronze prism
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Hyee

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Someone is still awake...

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Oh, and I rod you theory

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Read

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Rhod

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Omg Dale_Confused

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It's really nice

azure bay
bronze prism
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I saw every possible location and I didn't found nothing I could complain

bronze prism
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Oh timezones

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You must live in the opposite side of the world

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It's 2am in Brazil

hexed bough
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well this isn't the place to talk about that

bronze prism
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But this is theory branch

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:I

hexed bough
bronze prism
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We are talking about this AMAZING theory he made

bronze prism
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I'm still learning I have to change # sometimes

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But let's go back to the theory

azure bay
bronze prism
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Who's Jimmy?

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Jimmy Vandermeer

azure bay
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Idk

bronze prism
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Lemme search for a sec

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Ice hockey?

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Like 🏒🏑

azure bay
bronze prism
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No I was asking if he was in the story

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I think I didn't understand somethings very well

fleet haven
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Hey there, 6:15 here in France XD
I have a theory but I don't know if someone have thought about it before!

bronze prism
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Tell us pleeease

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We would love

azure bay
bronze prism
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  • I will read it again XD
azure bay
fleet haven
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Well I was wondering, what if Albert is the uncle AND the father of Frank? I mean, his father is unknow and Albert is pretty fucked up in the head enough to do such a thing for revenge, plus it's not like they are so far away physically

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Yeah I know it's gross, but we can all agree that it's more probable than a flower

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And that could explain why Albert didn't just let Frank starve in the well

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Or it was just to make fun of him like his mother did when they were kids X)

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After all we do hear him laugh (And it's not a pretty laugh)

azure bay
fleet haven
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I'm sure the flower is a metaphore, there is no doubt about that, but it's not like there is a lot of strangers coming in Rusty Lake, except Ida

azure bay
fleet haven
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It's hard to say in games what is a metaphore or a vision of the mind of a character, and what is real

azure bay
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Absolutely agree

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So there is always room for doubts

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@bronze prism talking about the map of Paradox

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It contradicts all the other maps & paintings

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What's more, it changes from chapter to chapter

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The locations & topology differ

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And they are also depicted in a certain order during respective puzzles

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In short, these are references to the games featuring Laura (ch1) & Dale (ch2) in chronological order

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Effectively, their lifepaths

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With origins & final goals

bronze prism
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Whoa I will read this tomorrow I promisse

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It's 3Am rn

floral mauve
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also, it is not possible for Owl just summon all of the materials from no where in order to build a hotel since he still talks with ppl (like being a manager in white door)

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so he might have hired ppl to transport material and build the hotel

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plus, I believe Ida comes to the mansion not only because she knew that she is gonna marry Samuel, but also about making fortune in the village I believe

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whereas Mary, I think she comes from the village

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a local, I would say

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also, the fishing man from the cave, and old lady from the mill

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they might be all from that village

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Eilanders arent the only locals

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since Eilanders camped in the island in the middle of the lake all the time

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and they must have married some locals from the village as well since no one likes incest

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Caroline

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yes, I checked the images, I believe, if you observe it carefully, Caroline and Mary have similar hair colour...

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obviously young Mary

azure bay
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o_O

floral mauve
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what do u think

azure bay
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taking wife from outside the commune is not impossible & may be expected.

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but the hair color?

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why???

floral mauve
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because same village....

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sort of mixing genes

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perhaps even relatives

azure bay
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dude, this seems to be a heavy speculation

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too many ifs

floral mauve
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what if

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there is only one

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there is a village next to the lake

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thats it

floral mauve
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other details I provided are just to support this idea

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maybe Caroline and Mary arent related at all

floral mauve
azure bay
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it's not a good support, these are certain branches on a huge tree of possibilities

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there might have been several villages

floral mauve
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tell me some counter argument about there is a village next to the lake or a few km away from the lake

floral mauve
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but there is village right?

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therefore, I dont see a problem in my assumption

azure bay
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likely. I'm debating on the support of yours

floral mauve
azure bay
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I won't bc it's not my point

floral mauve
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bruh

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you said that you are debating

azure bay
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read it once again

floral mauve
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what

azure bay
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there might be a village but not because 2 women sharing the hair color

floral mauve
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I dont care about those two

azure bay
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yes

floral mauve
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its just an extra useless footnote

azure bay
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I've got it

azure bay
floral mauve
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I know

azure bay
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then nothing to worry about

floral mauve
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all I want to prove is that there is a possible income for all coming strangers to the mansion

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include the one that impregnates Emma

azure bay
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She's already admitted Ida. For both of us it's already enough to introduce any stranger

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however, I still like the magic plant version more

floral mauve
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yes

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magical tree gives power to the plants nearby

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share the same soil

azure bay
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such a lovely assumption

bronze prism
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Hi

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What

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Oh noo, I lost a theory...

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;(

bronze prism
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Oh god, sorry for coming back for it

slow ridge
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What do you mean by "special properties"? I think it's a normal tree, used in a representative way

hoary lichen
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I think it’s about the final picture frame

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Where the roots trap the three

azure bay
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The seed obviously had some properties

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And I tend to see most events of Roots being at least approximately planned

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The alchemists knew one of them would die

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And prepared a backdoor ritual

floral mauve
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Normal tree doesn’t drink ppl’s blood

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And revive someone

floral mauve
floral mauve
azure bay
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where do you disagree tho?

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@floral mauve

floral mauve
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I doubt Mr Crow know Laura at the very beginning

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Know her as William

azure bay
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I'm not saying he did

floral mauve
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I think until the craziness of Albert

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Aldous was in control sort of

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But

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After that

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He lost the track I think

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Something happened in the hotel

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Don’t remember the event

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I had this discussion with you before

azure bay
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Well, he did much more after all Albert's misdeads

floral mauve
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?

azure bay
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Before that he appeared only once to comment on children

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but after he was giving William more instructions through stars & Leonard's flashbacks

floral mauve
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ohhhhh

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thats true

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then why the hell he didnt take care of Laura or at least do something to guide her

high talon
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Sometimes you can't interfere with faith i guess?

floral mauve
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I dont think the current situation where Laura is dead (?) is what Aldous wants to see

high talon
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who knows, lmao?

floral mauve
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according to Paradox

high talon
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exactly even if Aldous wanted to fix it (if being the main word)

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the universe would find a way to murk Laura

floral mauve
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bruh

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thats not an appropriate way of looking at things

covert wyvern
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it actually is.

high talon
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maybe not you really think the universe would care lol?

floral mauve
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as if I am saying I am gonna die anyway, why shouldnt I die now

high talon
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we all can't go before our time sadly..XD

covert wyvern
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there's a difference in mortality and your faith being sealed by a particular event

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some people suggest that events in the universe are simply meant to happen and you cannot run from them

high talon
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Pretty much

floral mauve
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why would universe care about it

covert wyvern
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the universe wants you dead? it will continuously try to murder you.

high talon
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It doesn't

covert wyvern
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well ye that's a whole theory on its own:

floral mauve
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its humanity arrogant

high talon
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lets not get into that lol

floral mauve
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true

covert wyvern
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is the universe a sentient being or simply a dormant entity in the RL verse.

floral mauve
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because I spent my past two years dealing with it and wrote an essay based on that

covert wyvern
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I personally think it's probably the latter crowgiggle

floral mauve
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which is depressed

high talon
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that is a question we likely will never get an answer for but i believe in some way its "alive"

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if you get me

covert wyvern
floral mauve
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and shouldnt be included in theory channel

azure bay
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I don't really see a reason for Crow to care about Laura since William's personality was pretty much gone

high talon
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if i recall

floral mauve
azure bay
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No idea

floral mauve
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I doubt Owl or Crow have the ability to actually know the future

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maybe foresee the future in an vague way

high talon
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idk they seem semi aware

azure bay
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I suppose, we'll see something in "the story continues" game

floral mauve
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boring

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a fixed fate is certainly much more depressing

high talon
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depends on the OG outcome ngl

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sometimes it could be better

floral mauve
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depending on the devs

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how they gonna explain it, even though I doubt they would

azure bay
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Depends on theorists))))

floral mauve
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yes

azure bay
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It's us who produce stories

floral mauve
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thats actually sad in Crow's perspective

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he didnt know who is gonna die when they drink the elixir together right?

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so

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if he changes the perspective

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imagine Laura is Aldous

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thats sad

azure bay
floral mauve
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it is uncertain

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since they were humans

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and humans, except trained fortuneteller, dont have the ability to know those mad stuff

azure bay
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His words of the seed holding the fate of RL bother me

floral mauve
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tbh

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what the hell is the seed

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that thing comes out from nowhere

high talon
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could be a metaphor tbh

floral mauve
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just randomly popped up after the damn corpse

azure bay
floral mauve
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we legit see it grown into a tree

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that sucks ppl's organs

high talon
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exactly a family tree