it was more southeren..XD
#🤔｜theories
vague imp
weak patrol
THe flower could be white orchid as well
covert wyvern
Actually Rainy,
spice frigate
call it Mountain Albert
covert wyvern
an artist designed a blueprint for a fake mountain
to be build in the netherlands.
spice frigate
REALLY??
weak patrol
wait what?
spice frigate
I literally pogged
vague imp
oh yeah.. think it was Switzerland
weak patrol
A fake mountain?
vague imp
this is getting off topic im gonna move..XD
hollow comet
was it because they had no place to ski?
ocean flume
oh yeah.. think it was Switzerland
Yeah and they have big lakes too.
uneven flicker
I just received one of my friend's theory that it's not the flower but the branch(twig?) of this tree.
ocean flume
Ooooh why not
uneven flicker
I don't know, but maybe?
spice frigate
huh... interesting
uneven flicker
She said that these two looked a bit similar.
uneven flicker
Also devs would renew the designs.
vague imp
oh that actually makes sense now that you say it..XD
uneven flicker
😆Well but anyway, we don't really know what kind of flowers Emma used in Roots so that flower might not be classified in the exact category.
vague imp
smth like this according do google?
weak patrol
that's the pictrue i'm trying to send
uneven flicker
Could you tell me what kind of the flower is it?
weak patrol
orchid
delicate terrace
thats a white orchid
weak patrol
white orchid
vague imp
White orchid
weak patrol
No matter what color, orchids have a universal meaning: “I will always love you.”
uneven flicker
aha
weak patrol
That's what I found in a website
delicate terrace
No matter what color, orchids have a universal meaning: “I will always love you.”
@weak patrol thats beautiful
weak patrol
I know
weak patrol
from the flower design, i think it could not be rose
spice rampart
Yeah, probably Rose
vague imp
mayhaps..XD dude i bet the devs are "offline" but laughing at us theorizing rn
weak patrol
I didn't notice the capitalization
mayhaps..XD dude i bet the devs are "offline" but laughing at us theorizing rn
maybe
let's just say this
Devs, if you are seeing this
Hi
uneven flicker
You mean Albert?
azure bay
Both
weak patrol
wdym bob is mirrored?
azure bay
In theatre he keeps the gun in right hand, in TWD in left one
weak patrol
that's a good eye of detail
azure bay
I was thinking that it was a mistake
weak patrol
could be a mistake
covert wyvern
(ive met them)
vague imp
maybe it's his memories getting twisted or maybe he can use both hands..XD
azure bay
I think Theatre is just altered inside memories
ocean flume
Theater looks more like a dream that resume RL lore than anything.
ocean flume
See ya
alpine atlas
all of theatre is completely literal and should be seen as perfectly serious
azure bay
Theater looks more like a dream that resume RL lore than anything.
@ocean flume it takes Dale's memories as a foundation
vague imp
Of course you mean fish don't fly in your countries :o?
uneven flicker
I received another theory from my friend: that the portrait of Albert has some odd lines... which could be because that he maybe a corrupted soul or smth
alpine atlas
like the tv
azure bay
A fish was somehow caught by Rose in a beartrap
uneven flicker
Yeah
alpine atlas
when i first saw the lines i thought it was a mugshot lol
ocean flume
A fish was somehow caught by Rose in a beartrap
And by Dale in a mouse one but I think it’s just for the sake of being odd
uneven flicker
mugshot loll🤣
vague imp
Albert goes to the shame cube for his crimes..XD
that's it that's the ploti connected the dot's, i've connected them
you all can go home now..XD
alpine atlas
howd u get such a high quality image??
ocean flume
Black magic
uneven flicker
well my friend just posted it on sns. She might put some edit:3
uneven flicker
loll🤣🤣
alpine atlas
so one puzzle of the game will be collecting candles?
theres an empty candle holder
uneven flicker
I thought that too, Blubble.
This one
It reminded of me the puzzle in Samsara Room
ocean flume
Five like the five animals in hotel/ paradise.
vague imp
eat the candle holder
uneven flicker
Five like the five animals in hotel/ paradise.
Oh my
alpine atlas
idk maybe its just some candles haha
uneven flicker
interesting
ocean flume
idk maybe its just some candles haha
Could be as well
azure bay
Maybe that is somehow a mirror. I'm catching deja vu
alpine atlas
i thought that too
uneven flicker
Yes. And we rearrange each piece in the mirror...
And then...
||We can see his corrupted soul||
ocean flume
Yeah but the name tag thought
azure bay
So Albert becomes a CS?
vague imp
i can see Albert's corrupted soul being like
uneven flicker
could be?
alpine atlas
idk why albert would become corrupted
alpine atlas
he’s perfectly sane apart from being insane
azure bay
idk why albert would become corrupted
@alpine atlas idk y Bob would, but still
uneven flicker
Well he's a murderer
alpine atlas
bob was depressed
hollow comet
he’s perfectly sane apart from being insane
what
silver anvil
Why would Albert not be a corrupted soul?
Look at all he did in Roots
azure bay
Albert was also not sane
uneven flicker
And I also think that's the portrait, not a mirror like the one that shows Dale.
vague imp
i think they are messing with us..XD
ocean flume
idk why albert would become corrupted
Well maybe he is a CS so he kill people.
uneven flicker
Has name tag.
ocean flume
i think they are messing with us..XD
Or are they ?
vague imp
XD
alpine atlas
the part that makes me most nervous is the table
the curtains gonna have a body under it, i just know it
ocean flume
Why ?
alpine atlas
what
vague imp
that's some good body horror..XD
weak patrol
The same happened if you tap William's portrait in the attic
It became corrupted
ocean flume
Oh
alpine atlas
wills the original corrupted soul right
uneven flicker
Albert's body...? I guess he would lie in the cuffin but yeah, it's RL so who knows....
weak patrol
We got a body in a grandfather clock, so...
ocean flume
wills the original corrupted soul right
He’s Mr Owl ?
alpine atlas
its gonna be legs fish in that coffin
vague imp
we could argue the OG corrupt soul was the mammoth
hollow comet
Albert was the only Vanderboom to have a slab over his grave. They must've been scared of him coming back from the dead
uneven flicker
He’s Mr Owl ?
No Mr. Owl was ||Jacob Eilander||
ocean flume
Albert was the only Vanderboom to have a slab over his grave. They must've been scared of him coming back from the dead
Who wouldn’t
azure bay
& have broken that very slab afterwards °ω°
vague imp
i think you mean nephew..XD
alpine atlas
omg rusty lake is going to become a zombie franschise
vague imp
niece is a female
vague imp
it's okay it happens im sorry for laughing it was just a funny mental image ig
uneven flicker
The biggest thing I wonder is... the reason why Albert suddenly comes out again. Because in Roots we can clearly see how he ends up his life. I wonder why now, why him.
vague imp
the wicked don't rest
weak patrol
Maybe deepen the lore
alpine atlas
its not going to be a very long game so
ocean flume
Or it’s because of Rose ?
weak patrol
Same as Robert
hollow comet
they've been planning on bringing him back since at least 3 years
uneven flicker
hmmm
vague imp
lmao ik it's off topic but go to cabin for a sec j
uneven flicker
Oh, since 2017
ocean flume
they've been planning on brining him back since at least 3 years
Oh ?
hollow comet
yeah, they did an interview
uneven flicker
Yeah I also saw that interview
azure bay
They want to review his fate in details
hollow comet
hold on I'll link it
weak patrol
I mean
It's a3d have
alpine atlas
the past is never dead and neither is albert
weak patrol
Game
uneven flicker
Alright so it was planned...
weak patrol
Surely it's gonna take a while
alpine atlas
they wouldnt make a teaser for it without it coming out in like a month or two right?
weak patrol
Imma read that now
Brb
I think they made a teaser in 2018
About a 3d have
Have
azure bay
They have already teased an Albert game twice.
hollow comet
was just thinking about that lmao
hollow comet
"3D-ish project"
azure bay
- a demo on Gamescon
ocean flume
lmao ik it's off topic but go to cabin for a sec j
Oh wait you’re right. The ||corrupted soul is some kind of a deer||
weak patrol
That's mr deer
alpine atlas
this game still has arrows, i dont think its 3D
azure bay
That's mr deer
@weak patrol agree, but would not before seeing official Roots poster
weak patrol
I think I'll read the article lateer
ocean flume
Yes but in roots ||it’s also Albert||
azure bay
Albert is just impersonating deer.
weak patrol
But remember hotel
alpine atlas
i think zombie albert is the most plausible theory ever
uneven flicker
"3D-ish project"
And I found that the working title is "The Past Within" while I'm anaylizing the pictures taken from that game conference.
ocean flume
mmmmmh you’re right.
weak patrol
The only thing that doesn't have an answer is the crow looking corrupted soul
azure bay
The cow is also zombie since the update
i think zombie albert is the most plausible theory ever
@alpine atlas
alpine atlas
yep albert is a cow and a zombie
weak patrol
I hope yhis new game about Albert answers that
azure bay
Ok but jokes aside now plz
ocean flume
The cow is also zombie since the update
Which game ?
vague imp
lmao..
azure bay
The Mill
Which game ?
@ocean flume
weak patrol
Ce collection @ocean flume
vague imp
ig the collection?
alpine atlas
its just an achievement from mill
vague imp
lmao wait it becomes a zombie?
vague imp
like it moves?
alpine atlas
it does technically still make milk when its headless
ocean flume
||It kinda mooses||
weak patrol
I don't have a screenshot
vague imp
anyone got a screenshot?
weak patrol
You caj check the steam achievement
Not a full pic but you van see the vow
That's a poor typing
hollow comet
And I found that the working title is "The Past Within" while I'm anaylizing the pictures taken from that game conference.
very interesting. The title gives off Paradox vibes
alpine atlas
within my brain??
azure bay
anyone got a screenshot?
@vague imp
azure bay
It requires an effort 😩
alpine atlas
havent you played mill boo?
azure bay
Free on phones
alpine atlas
its free haha
ocean flume
Mill’s free on phone
alpine atlas
and on cubeescape.com
azure bay
and on cubeescape.com
@alpine atlas there is no zombie cow
vague imp
XD...wait the collections free on phones? XD
azure bay
Yep
ocean flume
Yup
ocean flume
All nines
vague imp
why'd nobody tell me!
vague imp
i been waiting for ajob like an idiot
ocean flume
Only RLs TWD and Paradox chap 2 are charged
vague imp
spooky
uneven flicker
within my brain??
lol might be?? Or within 'mind'
covert wyvern
yes, we know.
stuck lynx
I think it will be like a samsara room
About what is happening in the head of Albert, who has gone to another world
Which will allow the studio to better reveal him as a character.
stuck lynx
Moreover, Albert is a character whose actions are not entirely clear, and his image is very interesting
vague imp
so Albert has the scar on the wrong side so..what if like uh he's like..what if this is how his corrupted soul sees him everything like..mirrored in their P.O.V
stuck lynx
Perhaps this is just a mirror, albeit with the specified name.
azure bay
CS could see its portrait as a mirror but the fact of death is not yet percieved
astral frost
I think you're overthinking guys lol
stuck lynx
If we thought too little, then the lore of the game has lost its color. This is the point, to think out everything on your own.
sonic vapor
New game about Albert Vanderboom
@stuck lynx I think it s about Rose
azure bay
@astral frost as I remember, Albert's game is exploring memories. Either his own or the ones of someone who was watching him (William's CS did).
@stuck lynx I think it s about Rose
@sonic vapor the game specifically about Albert has been teased for 1.5 years
sonic vapor
@sonic vapor the game specifically about Albert has been teased for 1.5 years
@azure bay hmm
but I thing that would be one of the memories of golden cube
cause in the cave achievments we saw rose timrpiece and a golden cube card
azure bay
We don't know yet properties of the golden cube. Only its connection to enlightenment
cause in the cave achievments we saw rose timrpiece and a golden cube card
@sonic vapor that could be a completely different game
sonic vapor
We have to wait for the game to come
astral frost
@azure bay are you talking about that trailer with the black cube on a table?
azure bay
Yep, & the last year halloween image with Albert wearing the pumpkin presumably inside that very room
astral frost
I think you're overthinking guys lol
Btw I was just saying sometimes we should base our theories on facts to prove them, even if RL games are so misterious
sonic vapor
Yep, & the last year halloween image with Albert wearing the pumpkin presumably inside that very room
@azure bay but I thing we are going to play as Rose
astral frost
@azure bay but I thing we are going to play as Rose
@sonic vapor even because of the hints about Laura's childhood in Samsara Room and the Collection
sonic vapor
@sonic vapor even because of the hints about Laura's childhood in Samsara Room and the Collection
@astral frost yeah
I think maybe it s one of the golden cube memories
azure bay
How do you know that the golden cube contains memories?
sonic vapor
But we have to wait for the game trailer
How do you know that the golden cube contains memories?
@azure bay
Just a guess😆
azure bay
I'd like to extract everything we've got for now
@azure bay
Just a guess😆
@sonic vapor a bad one, as for me. The blue cube does not contain any memory, for example.
sonic vapor
I'd like to extract everything we've got for now
@azure bay the story continues achievments and the photo
sonic vapor
@sonic vapor a bad one, as for me. The blue cube does not contain any memory, for example.
@azure bayI'm not a good theorist by the way 😁
sonic vapor
Do you want to learn being a good one?
@azure bay I don have much time for learning
sorry
azure bay
You don't have to
sonic vapor
🙂
azure bay
I separate Albert's game & young Laura's one because they are teased separately
We don't have any sign of Laura in old teasers
& no sign of Albert in SR & CEC
azure bay
As far as we know
But she could explore his memories or smth
I heard that this game is a sequence of entering different cubes. Perhaps we'll have something Inception-like
When we enter a memory while already being in one
covert wyvern
You're more informed than us;) what's your source.
sonic vapor
Also Albert never met laura, right?
@covert wyvern but maybe rose show the body of his grandfather
covert wyvern
I suppose exploring the idea of exploring others memories is fascinating.
azure bay
But I know the translator
covert wyvern
Ah fair.
azure bay
I've just asked him. He was quite inactive recently but he could probably share the source
I've probably found one
It was on reddit & It's deleted
Comments show that there was info on TWD & the 3D game
covert wyvern
Ah interesting.
azure bay
covert wyvern
Neat.
azure bay
I've got the original text, but I'm not sure whether I have rights to propagate it
& you may not believe it since it was originally deleted
astral frost
I think the first comment is enough
https://www.reddit.com/r/rustylake/comments/cu3k72/my_experience_at_rusty_lakes_little_booth_at/
@azure bay
Assuming the original idea was maintained
azure bay
Alrighty then
There was also a small demo of a 3D game featuring Albert, simply called "Albert" in the tablets home screen. There is a table in a room with a weird mechanical cube on it with tubes and gears all over it. Inside the cube stands Albert next to a table. The goal is to fix the tubes and gears to get a small cube from the outside into the inside. You can rotate the cube and zoom in on stuff. You have to actually drag the item from the inventory. The cube lands on the table inside the cube and Albert looks at you. The game zooms into it and the game restarts (?). When talking to the other guy from Rusty Lake (I don't know if it was Maarten), he told me this implies that we are now looking at this new cube and we go deeper and deeper, y'know. He also told me that this game will show what made Albert the killer we know and love. Apparently, the bees weren't enough.
covert wyvern
Interesting
azure bay
I'd assume that this time we are to look at memories from the outside thus at the projections on cube's sides (that would explain a mirrored image), but the text is not mirrored + we've already seen how it feels to look inside the cube (Paradox movie). So I'd be incorrect here
@covert wyvern is QuantumCrow ok with pinging? I have a question for him
azure bay
I'm confused with your contradicting answers
covert wyvern
As mentioned; It's okay to ping.
azure bay
Ok. Thx
covert wyvern
😉
azure bay
Ha-ha
azure bay
And I found that the working title is "The Past Within" while I'm anaylizing the pictures taken from that game conference.
@hollow comet where is it from?
stone summit
So did guy guys saw newsletter?
||I think a second Vanderboom is going to get resurrected.||
azure bay
||I think a second Vanderboom is going to get resurrected.||
@stone summit nah, It's more likely to be like Inception, but with cubes instead of dreams
stone summit
Hmm, possible 🤔
upper drift
Which newsletter btw?
stone summit
azure bay
it's duped here as well
in fact, it's the only thing we r talking about since yesterday
upper drift
:OOOOOO thanks!!!
Also I do know about the picture so...
And is what I thought about the sneak peak
Also as we noticed there's smth off about that picture (his scar)
azure bay
yep
no idea with a strong foundation how that happened
the easiest guess - a mistake on the deb's behalf
upper drift
Yes which is most evident
..
Or it's some thing else.
My second guess was that it's a mirror and the nametag is there bcs why not 😏
azure bay
there is never strong enough evidence about mistakes untill they are corrected
upper drift
True.
azure bay
BCS?
upper drift
Because*
upper drift
Hm
azure bay
but it could be percieved as one by the protagonist
somehow
We've noticed some suspicious distortion on the portrait
azure bay
do you know much about the previous teasers?
azure bay
vague imp
Wonder if Edd is still watching twin peaks, would really like to know if its better or worse than rusty lake 🤐
azure bay
Watch it yourself
vague imp
I dont have the time 🙄
azure bay
there are 3 films only
vague imp
The reason I wanted to ask because I think RL is a great concept and it has series/movie potential
Its a series?
azure bay
people call it a series
but as for me, the films are low in quantity & are too long for me
- the time span between films being released
vague imp
Which is exactly why I dont have the time to watch it
azure bay
so don't you have never free 2 hours a week to watch a single movie?
vague imp
I'm just saying, what if RL is better than twin peaks?
I would defs want to watch a RL 📺 series
I have 6 hours of classes everyday and the weekends we have to study and do preparations
Plus I have to take care of myself which isn't easy either 🙄
covert wyvern
is this still about theories? if it's not I suggest moving to #🛖｜the-cabin
vague imp
Apologies - this was in response to the video @azure bay sent (which has to do with theories)
I guess we just got carried away. Sometimes it happens and I forgot.
covert wyvern
that's what I'm for 😉
astral frost
Wonder if Edd is still watching twin peaks, would really like to know if its better or worse than rusty lake 🤐
Just finished the last serie
azure bay
verdict?
astral frost
It's clear RL universe was inspired by Twin Peaks essence
But I can't compare Twin Peaks to RL universe
There are some references to it indeed
covert wyvern
quick reminder that this is #🤔｜theories 😉
astral frost
Sry right
azure bay
no, go on
astral frost
To another channel maybe
azure bay
this info can be usefull here
astral frost
Exactly
vague imp
If its theory based
covert wyvern
@azure bay I advise you stick to the channels topic, before you find yourself timed out.
azure bay
the parallels found can be used for further theorising
Twin Peaks is potentially a great source for understanding RL
pure rose
Means you could be back in here with this further theorising, but not with the discussion itself please
azure bay
ok
hollow comet
@azure bay I think J answered your question. The name showed up in one of their pictures from last year's gamecon.
azure bay
yeah, but the deleted reddit post mentioned just "Albert" as a temporary game tittle
hollow comet
interesting. The comments indicate that the "3D-ish" going to be about Albert's background, but the latest teaser doesn't look very 3D. It's still one picture, so who knows.
azure bay
As far as I understand there will be 2 stages on every level
- unlocking a 3D cube
- entering a 2D memory
- I don't believe that Albert that is to be seen inside the 3D cube while unlocking it will be also 3D
(I'm refering to that deleted post)
hollow comet
heh, I guess it's 3D-ish for a reason
hollow comet
nice, looking forward to reading it
azure bay
hollow comet
it's showing up as [removed]?
hollow comet
covert wyvern
aint showing up.
hollow comet
are you sure you haven't saved it as a draft
azure bay
I'll check
azure bay
covert wyvern
@stuck lynx please, explain how that's a theory of any kind related to RL?
azure bay
Alchemy
covert wyvern
I'm looking at skulls?
stuck lynx
The four stages of creating a philosopher's stone that leads to enlightenment.
Black
White
Blue
And gold
The analogy is obvious.
azure bay
Sorry, but you always have to explain everything no matter how obvious it may seem to you
What is more, I can take a concept from Rick & Morty anime short & announce that it explains how memories work in RL
It really could, but the connection is questionnable
I'm still interested in your theory though
so could you please explain it for me?
stuck lynx
Explain? Good. You asked for it yourself.
covert wyvern
@stuck lynx allow me to explain; you stick to the channels topic, or you get timed out. it's that easy. You cannot post a random image and expect us all to get it.
that clear to you?
azure bay
@covert wyvern is it enough that I percieve his image as a possible evidence for his theory for him to stay?
stuck lynx
The first stage of the creation of the philosopher's stone "Nigreto". It implies that in every darkness there is truth, and therefore a share of light. It is with her that the preparation of the elixir begins. Second stage "Albedo". A symbol of cleansing from blackness in favor of light. The emergence of consciousness. Citrinitas is the third stage. Literally it translates as "yellow" (gold). A symbol of the experience of life, complete purification and the maximum approach to enlightenment. A mixture of past, present and future. (however, this refers to the blue cube). And finally the fourth stage of "Rubedo". The symbol of the merger of all of the above and the achievement of enlightenment. (this is just a golden cube)
We see the rubedo process at the bottom of the lake, when three Cubes merge into one.
Gold cube
azure bay
but what to do with the 3d stage being "yellow" & the golden cube being the 4th stage?
stuck lynx
These are most likely changes by the developers themselves. Conventionally, the golden stage is the blue cube.
stuck lynx
OU. This is all explained in great detail in the video, which is in my language.
Russian
azure bay
I speak russian, no worries. But the video is not good enough format to be a source
could you find the source used for that video?
stuck lynx
@stuck lynx allow me to explain; you stick to the channels topic, or you get timed out. it's that easy. You cannot post a random image and expect us all to get it.
I apologize. There was a hitch here. Damy
😣
stuck lynx
...
azure bay
covert wyvern
Ah fair! Glad to see it's fixed.
azure bay
but without the link :c
alpine atlas
oh dude that 3D shot scared me for no reason
hollow comet
it's basically everything known about the albert game in one post. I didn't even notice the wallpaper in TWD. Great job!
azure bay
thx
vague imp
Everytime I see this channel name bolded. I just know nowherecrafter is here lol
azure bay
I was inactive back then
wise crow
Hi
azure bay
hey there
sonic vapor
aint showing up.
@covert wyvern that s for Dale s date of birth
18 years I think and 12 months
but i dont know where we can find the day
covert wyvern
That was in response to the Reddit post not showing up, lol?
azure bay
a misclick I guess
sonic vapor
That was in response to the Reddit post not showing up, lol?
@covert wyvern oh😅
@covert wyvern that s for Dale s date of birth
18 years I think and 12 months
but i dont know where we can find the day
by the way where we can find the birth day(except for the paradox and rusty lake roots)
azure bay
It's been added to Mr. Owl's letter
covert wyvern
Aye^
sonic vapor
It's been added to Mr. Owl's letter
@azure bay I know but the year and month added
where is the date?
sonic vapor
oh tnx
azure bay
he was asking a way without Paradox or Roots
astral frost
Oh ok sorry ahahah
polar warren
Dale's bday is the same day as my mom
azure bay
your-mom-is-Dale-theory confirmed!!!11!!!1
polar warren
XD
ivory girder
question: do u guys think the next game is free or not?
ivory girder
i just wanna ask
covert wyvern
And I want you to use the right channel.
ivory girder
if i interrupt u guys
covert wyvern
if you're planning to stay.
ivory girder
ok i'm really sorry if i hurt ur feelings
covert wyvern
you didn't.
ivory girder
i'm new
azure bay
just kidding
covert wyvern
you shouldn't be breaking rules,
now move to the correct channels, read the #✅｜rules or face a timeout.
ivory girder
i forgot them sorry
azure bay
@ivory girder relax, you are just continue spamming with your apologies 😂
azure bay
alrighty then
ivory girder
if it's albert it's too obvious so i think it's not
azure bay
It could be Albert's next form, It could be any Vanderboom alive (including Laura), it could be Williams's corrupted soul, it could be the lake crew
ivory girder
laura has albert's brain right?
azure bay
I have weak evidence for it being a reborn Albert, but It's too weak & probably far-fetched
ivory girder
yeah and it's too obvious
azure bay
laura has albert's brain right?
@ivory girder a difficult question
astral frost
Laura has also other parts from other Vanderbooms
So this fact would imply those other parts were as important for our theories
astral frost
But I doubt Mary's teeth are so important XD
azure bay
So this fact would imply those other parts were as important for our theories
@astral frost Laura is not likely to be a Vanderboom frankenstien monster. For example she is expected to have Frank's brown hair, but she is blond
ivory girder
yeah
azure bay
so I think that sacrifices are not the substance to create a new body, but an idea or example
astral frost
so I think that sacrifieces are not the substance to create a new body, but an idea or example
@azure bay I agree with you, I mean I think the fact Laura has Albert's brain isn't important
It doesn't mean they share the same mind or something similar
ivory girder
who knows :)
azure bay
I will still consider that cause the brain is more important for personality than teeth
a good question indeed
👏
covert wyvern
i suppose the brain is justr another organ, in this universe?
like
I assume
the soul houses the personality.
ivory girder
ok will the new game happened right after albert die or when?
azure bay
the soul houses the personality.
@covert wyvern the story implies that memories house the personality
Dale needs to change them to suit his future role
astral frost
Just remembered in Cave Laura is called "The reborn mind"
But I don't want to jump to conclusion
Laura is still a confusive character
azure bay
I know for sure that Laura actually contained William's memories
but seemingly with no access to them
astral frost
that's proved
even if I don't know why
for this reason I'm reluctant to bring up Albert in Laura's stuff
astral frost
Guys
I'm re watching Paradox and I noticed the address on this postcard
Is someone playing TWD? In that case, can you check if this address is in the map of Day 3?
Vanderboom st. 56
azure bay
there is no Vanderboom st as far as I remember
astral frost
😦
azure bay
Maybe just a different district?
azure bay
I have a suspicion that the lake crew has a greater control over human society than we think
Eilander street is the thing if I'm correct
And mr Owl is present on currency in TWD
astral frost
TWD seems to kidnap some people in order to extract their memories
Idk if they are special people or not
Bob was special because he contained memories about Laura
(btw I don't know why Mr Owl was interested in them)
vague imp
Maybe they expanded their facilities?
astral frost
I mean, in TWD basement there are trapped people
azure bay
I think there are at least 3
astral frost
We rescued them in the ARG
azure bay
I mean, in TWD basement there are trapped people
@astral frost this is a common practice for mental facilities
To secure special patients
astral frost
But we know TWD isn't a common hospital
vague imp
Maybe their facilities are spread out to prevent them from being tracked / linked to one another
azure bay
TWD needs to coexist with human society
astral frost
And those people don't look like dangerous patients
vague imp
The more people with traumatic and bad memories, the better it is for the facility/ Mr Owl
azure bay
And those people don't look like dangerous patients
@astral frost what do their personal files say?
astral frost
Well guys, I'm italian so I can translate for you the audio file from Giulio Trentino
Which was one of those patients
azure bay
Nice
astral frost
Now I can't find the file, but I remember he was talking about someone dangerous who wanted his memories. That dangerous person/ group would have done everything to obtain them
I think he was referring to TWD
Do you know where the patients' files are?
azure bay
In the dadabase
astral frost
oook
I do not want to replay it now ahaha
But I'm sure those people knew TWD wanted them
uneven flicker
Yeah the doctors in TWD facility seems like they wanna investigate more about cubes and memories.
hollow comet
My first ever theory in this server is relevant to the current topic:
This is related to The White Door:
I think we can all agree that the manager of the White Door (the mental facility) is Mr Owl (he appears many times in person too).
On Day 4 we can access to many accounts on the machine and one of those accounts is simply named 'O', which I think is short for Owl.
Upon entering the password to this account, we get an achievement as well as access to two emails, one from Sarah (the nurse) and the other from Dr Hoorn.
Dr Hoorn's mail is almost certainly in reference to Sarah, as it mentions 'a staff member's other intentions with the patient'.
Later, I don't know in what year, Dr Hoorn ends up dead.
The point of all this is, is Mr Owl an established crime boss?
azure bay
(I still doubt Mr. Owl being the manager himself but consider that)
astral frost
Just login
@azure bay do you remember the credentials?
uneven flicker
Oh yes, I also thought it's most lilkely that he is Mr. Owl. And now I can add something here: considering TWD is the 'spinoff' version of Rusty Lake series. I think TWD universe is like, putting some IF: Rusty Lake universe but in the modern time.
astral frost
Oh yes, I also thought it's most lilkely that he is Mr. Owl. And now I can add something here: considering TWD is the 'spinoff' version of Rusty Lake series. I think TWD universe is like, putting some IF: Rusty Lake universe but in the modern time.
@uneven flicker remember TWD is setted in 1972
during Dale's journey, more or less
astral frost
thanks
azure bay
Need to check the google doc
vague imp
I think Mr Owl is doing what is necessary for the lake. He needs dale to continue his work thus hinting his retirement
azure bay
I think Mr Owl is doing what is necessary for the lake. He needs dale to continue his work thus hinting his retirement
@vague imp agree here
uneven flicker
Yep, but I mean in TWD ARG we, living in 2020, investigate old files of 11 patients and find their cubes ||to help Sarah to let patients escape||. So... TWD puts an slight possibility that can communicate with nowadays, I think?
Just a suggestion:3
I might be wrong, of course.
hollow comet
I remember reading "the outbreak of 1972" somewhere
so the ARG definitely took place in real time
but TWD was in 1972
azure bay
Yep, but I mean in TWD ARG we, living in 2020, investigate old files of 11 patients and find their cubes ||to help Sarah to let patients escape||. So... TWD puts an slight possibility that can communicate with nowadays, I think?
@uneven flicker 2020 is to retrieve the lost cubes
vague imp
Laura's death was in 1972 or was Robert in the facility in 1972? Just want to re-confirm
uneven flicker
Yes I know and I also said that I might be wrong. I just wanna point out that because of ARG TWD puts an possibility that the past and the present can interact than other series. And...that's all.
astral frost
Well guys I was wrong about Giulio Trentino's recording
It just says Giulio left something for someone (maybe Dr Hoorn) in a certain place
azure bay
Can you say why you remember it being paranoid?
uneven flicker
17th Octorber 1971, that's the day of Laura Vanderboom's funeral I guess. And Robert was in TWD facility since 13th August, 1972.
azure bay
Since 13th
uneven flicker
Oh right, 13th.
astral frost
Can you say why you remember it being paranoid?
@azure bay I remember something about the ARG (probably a file) saying TWD group was dangerous
I could be wrong
azure bay
I'll need a bigger team to reanalyse the whole ARG
astral frost
Another point about Paradox
The only 2 endings that let Dale to escape from the loop are the Elixir one and the Golden Cube one
Do you think they are opposed?
covert wyvern
One must die for the other to become enlightened
either dale dies, or laura does
😉
astral frost
Exactly
And, if the Golden Cube is something different from the "normal" elixir (which we saw in many other situations), could that mean the Golden Cube enlighten both the 2 people involved?
covert wyvern
I have no clue.
astral frost
It's a total mistery right now
The cool thing is we know Laura will do something in the future from the beginning of the serie
Cause one of Season memories is setted in 1981
Right now the storyline comes up to 1971/1972
If the Golden Cube is related to the future, Laura could have used it to travel to 1981
Totally random thougt
astral frost
What we know right now is: at a certain point Laura manages to return to Human stage
While enlightenment means something more powerful
Like becoming a DemiGod or a God
No wait
Even in Samsara Room William calls his transformation to Laura an "enlightenment"
So enlightenment is a passage to an upper stage
Nothing so specific
vague imp
But how are these cubes formed? Through memory extraction?
And then one uses a cube to time travel?
astral frost
First, we see many black cubes in the serie: in fact they are physical manifestations of the memories of everyone.
The Golden Cube is a particular Cube which needs:
-One Black Cube from Laura (about her death)
-One White Cube from Laura(about her travel to Rusty Lake, we do not know everything about it)
-The Blue Cube (used by Dale and Laura to "time travel": we assumed the blue cube let you change/fix your memories, not changing the "real" past)
We also know (from Cave) that Mr Bat is somehow involved in Laura's travel to the Lake
And the Golden Cube was made by that machine under the Lake
azure bay
We also know (from Cave) that Mr Bat is somehow involved in Laura's travel to the Lake
@astral frost how is it so?
astral frost
When you rescue the white cube in the lake, you can see what happens in that memory
And you can see Laura visiting the Lake with Harvey
And Harvey sounds like Mr Bat
azure bay
That could be a mistake. A wrong sound that is also used for the bat
the real bat
with no confirmed connections to Mr. Bat yet
azure bay
I ask you to be more humble in this case spesifically. With so little info It's just a speculation for now
I have more reasons to doubt that than to support
The sound is not associated with Mr. Bat specifically
There was no Mr. Bat seen in any game about Laura's lake trip
even in updated ones
azure bay
but you are making brave conclusions
concerning Mr. Bat specifically
& not any other bat that can populate the lake
astral frost
I say that because there are a DemiGod and an Animal with the same voice and face
I didn't formulate any theory, I've just remembered that point
Which could be useful to consider when playing next games
Why should Harvey have that voice in that scene?
azure bay
either he has heard ANY bat or it's a sound misuse by developers
astral frost
either he has heard ANY bat or it's a sound misuse by developers
@azure bay definitely not the second
azure bay
why so sure?
astral frost
I can understand some errors or contradictions from the first games, but The Cave was created when most of the plot about RL already existed
An error at this point wouldn't be acceptable in that story
azure bay
that's not a good enouph point to deny a human factor
astral frost
If so, I would never try to formulate a theory
azure bay
I'll check the original cave sounds
astral frost
Consistency of the fact/events shown is necessary in my opinion
azure bay
if there is Harvey's usual 'squeak', the version about a sound misuse is more probable than it is by default
if not, I propose another version
this could be for the optimization sake
harvey is potentially able to produce any sound
astral frost
harvey is potentially able to produce any sound
@azure bay exactly
azure bay
so there is no need to include his usual sound if there is already something to replace it
for example he only caws for the entirety of Roots
astral frost
for example he only caws for the entirety of Roots
@azure bay which is his own sound
But, for example, in Season he cries like Laura
And we can justify that event
I agree with you not to jumping to conclusions :)
azure bay
so
astral frost
But I also observe what happens
azure bay
there is no Harvey's usual squeak
@azure bay which is his own sound
@astral frost no he is impersonating a crow
or smth like that
the cases have a big resemblance
& the games are released closely in time
astral frost
@astral frost no he is impersonating a crow
@azure bay oh you mean his appearance in Emma level?
azure bay
but I don't clearly remember if Mr. Crow & his regular counterpart sound similarly there
astral frost
Mr Crow always had an eye on the Vanderbooms
So maybe Harvey worked with him also after the accident in the Hotel
OH
WAIT
INSTANT REALIZATION
azure bay
Mr Crow always had an eye on the Vanderbooms
@astral frost the possible differece in sounds can oppose that
astral frost
Why Harvey was with Laura?
azure bay
probably to spy in her
astral frost
EXACTLY
That was so simple
Harvey worked with Owl and Crow
@astral frost the possible differece in sounds can oppose that
@azure bay we should replay it
azure bay
I'm looking for a walkthroug
so
there are 4 pretty similar sounds & the 1 used in Hotel
every caw is from the 4
at least the ones we are interested in
so he could impersonate Mr. Crow
astral frost
It's enough to prove his collaboration with Mr Crow
Right now
Knowing everything could change with next games
vague imp
I thought harvey is innocent in all of this
Why would they kick him out in that cut scene
?
azure bay
in birthday?
astral frost
Harvey worked for Mr Owl like Mr Crow
stuck lynx
Of course
stuck lynx
But it was the revange, wasn't it?
azure bay
is it important?
astral frost
I was answering to Cranberry 🙂
astral frost
I agree ahahaha
stuck lynx
Lol
azure bay
CS are usually agressive with no reasons. I'm not sure if guest have recognised Harvey
stuck lynx
Quite possibly not, because if they understood what was happening, they would have run into Mr. Owl
astral frost
You mean when Laura came back to the lake and Harvey was attacked by that winged CS?
azure bay
Laura, Harvey, the police officer & probably Dale were attacked
You mean when Laura came back to the lake and Harvey was attacked by that winged CS?
@astral frost the timeline image sais that there was an only trip
astral frost
No no I was saying about this
CS are usually agressive with no reasons. I'm not sure if guest have recognised Harvey
@azure bay
stuck lynx
Another old woman from the mill and a cow from the same place> Laura, Harvey, the police officer & probably Dale were attacked
@azure bay
astral frost
What event are you talking about?
azure bay
Another old woman from the mill and a cow from the same place> Laura, Harvey, the police officer & probably Dale were attacked
@azure bay
@stuck lynx yeah
What event are you talking about?
@astral frost what do you mean by "came back"?
stuck lynx
Only they weren't just filled. They were sent to the next world
stuck lynx
Rose even talks about it in Easter egg
azure bay
ah, I see. Let's indicate her return as a trip or a contest trip
astral frost
CS are usually agressive with no reasons. I'm not sure if guest have recognised Harvey
@azure bay what do you mean there dude?
azure bay
what does confuse you?
stuck lynx
A little misunderstanding
azure bay
the escape
stuck lynx
Nice
astral frost
For example, Caroline seems to have conscience
azure bay
William seems too
astral frost
And Mr Rabbit kills Dale's parents for a reason
azure bay
just keep in mind that he may be not a preta
stuck lynx
For example, Caroline seems to have conscience
@astral frost It seems to me that within a rusty lake, conscience is a relative concept
astral frost
just keep in mind that he may be not a preta
@azure bay why?
@astral frost It seems to me that within a rusty lake, conscience is a relative concept
@stuck lynx I mean, they know what they're doing
stuck lynx
I'm sorry. Linguistic misunderstanding
azure bay
@azure bay why?
@astral frost he does not look like one. But some other indications tell that he could be never the less. & until we get some more info, I won't give a conclusion
astral frost
oh ok
stuck lynx
Agree
azure bay
& the one in the Hotel window is between them
stuck lynx
Look similar> this is from Birthday
@astral frost
azure bay
He has grown whiskers
astral frost
And this is from Paradox
azure bay
@astral frost take a screenshot of the main menu of ce collection
stuck lynx
Perhaps these are just different forms of his rebirth.
astral frost
Okok wait
stuck lynx
I'll go to bed. Good luck everyone and bye
astral frost
Good night 🙂
azure bay
GN
astral frost
astral frost
What is this sizes mean?
@stuck lynx what?
astral frost
you mean why i sent this image?
azure bay
my guess - a code for the future game
hollow comet
spoilers, man 
stuck lynx
Hah
vague imp
Please ping me next time. Sometime I go somewhere and I forget I asked.
Idk harvey doesn't have a very precise role in this. I thought he was the good guy
stuck lynx
my guess - a code for the future game
@azure bay maybe
azure bay
we've got the same thing in Paradise for Paradox
stuck lynx
And in hotel for birthday. But there were numbers
stuck lynx
But this is quite possible as an old practice.
azure bay
there is unused one for Roots "communication" level
astral frost
there is unused one for Roots "communication" leve;
@azure bay ?
that could also be a mask
@azure bay In that case he would have been already a Human
azure bay
& needs to get even higher
but agree
with info given it's more likely to be preta
even though he does not really look like one
stuck lynx
Ye
astral frost
even though he does not really look like one
@azure bay In fact other CS didn't attack with a machine gun, wearing a suit
He's different from the others in that sense lol
there is unused one for Roots "communication" level
@azure bay Sorry but I didn't understand again 😅
solid haven
Other CS also don't tend to clutch their wound after getting shot. Question, can we see him bleed after Grandpa shoots him?
azure bay
I'm looking for an image
Other CS also don't tend to clutch their wound after getting shot. Question, can we see him bleed after Grandpa shoots him?
@solid haven I don't really understand his will to escape his state if he is not preta. Plus, I don't understand what the chest writings indicate then
astral frost
@solid haven I don't really understand his will to escape his state if he is not preta. Plus, I don't understand what the chest writings indicate then
@azure bay agree
azure bay
@azure bay Sorry but I didn't understand again 😅
@astral frost a rabbit mask for young Rose
still hidden in game files
astral frost
Oh ok a cut content
that's why I didn't remember it
Cool!
Other CS also don't tend to clutch their wound after getting shot. Question, can we see him bleed after Grandpa shoots him?
@solid haven btw CS seem to be "physical" in some situations
solid haven
It's possible that it was only made possible in Dale's memory so that he could alter it and could not actually happen in reality.
azure bay
what's made possible?
astral frost
It's possible that it was only made possible in Dale's memory so that he could alter it and could not actually happen in reality.
@solid haven right
solid haven
Killing a CS by shooting it.
azure bay
ah
astral frost
that would fit in Dale-couldn't-change-his-past theory
azure bay
how exactly?
astral frost
It's just a possibility
btw if you remember we discussed about what happened in Birthday
and the fact that Dale didn't change his past
but only his memory
azure bay
I'm participating at this discussion for ve-e-ery long :з
astral frost
yes sorry ahahah
astral frost
It's so beautiful
azure bay
banhammer?
covert wyvern
I don't know. ¯_(ツ)_/¯
astral frost
just to be sure ahaha
azure bay
u've seen nothing!
astral frost
By the way
about Birthday
the main theory is: the Blue Cube doesn't let you time-travel, but only change the memory about it
astral frost
It seems more "possible" and consistent with the RL stuff about memories: in fact the process of fixing memories requires the Blue Cube, and there's no specific reference to a real time travel. Dale and Laura are reliving past memories (probably in the Room under the Lake), not using a time machine
that's pretty it
azure bay
what is about the time visibly going back both in Seasons & Birthday?
& other evidences that the blue cube is associated with the time
solid haven
It's still used to rewind time in memories.
astral frost
for this reason, this theory is based on the assumption that Dale and Laura are reliving memories
azure bay
no, I understand that
just wanted to hear the thing Schlock said
but the statement "the time cube works" is simplier than "the time cube works in memories only" if I'm evaluating correctly
& otherwise I don't really understand why the blue cube exists outside memories if it's useless there
astral frost
I understand
& otherwise I don't really understand why the blue cube exists outside memories if it's useless there
@azure bay right now, it was used by Dale and Laura
to fix their bad memory
to fix their bad memory
"face your demons"
azure bay
so you enter the black cube
find there a blue cube
use it to rewind the memory
& change it in acting in a different way?
astral frost
That's what Dale and Laura apparently did
They relived entirely their memories
and, at the end, they used the Blue Cube
to rewind and fix
azure bay
if these are memories why not just change it right away?
solid haven
Perhaps Dale needed to actually relive them.
astral frost
Talking about meta-narration, CS have to relive their bad memories (facing their demons) in order to become stronger
solid haven
Or changing the actual continuity of a memory is more difficult than just changing some of its elements.
From the outside.
astral frost
Enlightenment is literally an expansion of your mind
So you have to understand more things in order to become something higher
azure bay
let' not talk about a narration & hindu concepts
these are even more vague
subjective
astral frost
if not, everything could be right or wrong
astral frost
ok
azure bay
I see that it would probably be enough for Dale to find a coin & give his grandpa the pistol right away
unless he did not know what was coming
solid haven
Presumably not since he was reliving his memories. But after rewinding time he had acquired knowledge about the future in his memory.
azure bay
which future?
astral frost
everything happened in memories
solid haven
His parents being murdered.
azure bay
ok, fair enough
he became a past-himself with no knowledge about anything
rediscovered all the events
astral frost
Yes
astral frost
First, he remembers
Second, he relive the memory in a different way
(next game is about time travels and this theory will become useless)
solid haven
Ah yes.
azure bay
First, he remembers
Second, he relive the memory in a different way
@astral frost actually he already relives it in a different way. If he was able to obtain the cube back in 1930 there would not be any reason to return there from 1972
thus someone has put the cube there
probably alongside with a whole machine
exactly
astral frost
So we reached a compromise ahahaha
azure bay
not yet