📼｜tpw-bkm-arg

[fickle palm]

Conclude Iphone 6s.

[floral charm]

Ok

[kindred gorge]

whats the secret for the demo

[balmy yew]

I want to know too

[kindred gorge]

i got a random bronze key from the sky when i was oplaying with the clock

and i opened the third one it was a white mask

i put it on the lady in the mirror and nothing happend

i didnt know what to do

[balmy yew]

Don't you think there's something missing on this watch, because I always feel like those two dots on the dial should be little hands or something

[kindred gorge]

yeye

[balmy yew]

@kindred gorge from sky?

[kindred gorge]

yeah

[grim nexus]

If your partner follow a certain order of meeting characters in the maze in the future - they would have ended up finding a clock. Saying you time to get that bronze key

[kindred gorge]

i was playing with clock and id dint see what time i did

[kindred gorge]

i see

[kindred gorge]

what pattern?

[grim nexus]

And there should have been a sort of an animation or smth, I dont remember honestly

[balmy yew]

The official picture shows a clock with many small hands

[kindred gorge]

ok iu foinud the time again

i was retoying

9:10

[kindred gorge]

i found the thing

[night oriole]

Roots?

[grim nexus]

@kindred gorge also the animation appears if you finish the demo normally after finding a mask I believe

[kindred gorge]

i alreayd tried that

i finished the demo normally nothing happend

ill try again

[grim nexus]

And it’s kinda interesting bcs I dont remember having this symbol there when the demo was only out? Lol

[kindred gorge]

nope nothing

[kindred gorge]

hmm

[balmy yew]

I hope the authorities hurry up and send something new. The diary is useless yet

[grim nexus]

I mean like

|| https://youtu.be/B1z2OCcnkdE ||

[kindred gorge]

have u finished the demo yet

yeah the video showed the same thing that happend to me

but when i did it without the mask it showed the same animation

[balmy yew]

@grim nexusw what's this

[kindred gorge]

ima try doing it normally now

[grim nexus]

That’s pretty much what the title says, secret in the demo

[balmy yew]

oh,i know,thanks

I'll try the diary again

[kindred gorge]

yeps same thing happend

i did it again

everything starts floating

[night oriole]

Did anyone thinking about the chalk part

[grim nexus]

Okay and so the symbol also was always there if you clean a mirror w the cleaning rag

Yeah I just forgot everything completely lol sorry

[night oriole]

Does anyone have any ideas?

[balmy yew]

I think there must be something on the blackboard, I tried for a long time, I'm trying the diary now, I'm going to try again later

[night oriole]

Ok

I think that box can drop off like the key and the awl

[lofty bloom]

ve been played blackboard for almost a year

no idea

[lofty bloom]

Hi rick

just try it before you get the hammer

[balmy yew]

I also think there's something on the board, but I don't really think it's this on the air, I think it could be a diary on the air that would give us some clues

I wonder if those scenes on the first live TV show are telling us that there are scrolls in those places?

In the original work, there were very few places where you had to enter a password or have a unique solution, but this time there were almost everywhere

[night oriole]

Yeah yeah

I already tried so many ways

Did anyone get any new ideas?can you share with us?

Hi jerry

[lofty bloom]

not found yet

[lament sail]

Well it seems like we went in circles while I was asleep

But we got new scrolls though!

[lofty bloom]

whhhat

[lofty bloom]

the third one?

[lament sail]

The crystal ball A and the coffin

No not like that

New scroll content*

[balmy yew]

I am curious to know when the official post something new lol

[lament sail]

Well it's currently 7;10 am in the Netherlands

Granted they can schedule posts but so far they've been dropping stuff in the middle of the day for us

[balmy yew]

When is the official time for Posting

[lament sail]

The streams were posted 1PM CET

[balmy yew]

well

[night oriole]

If there are 4 scrolls, I think the RL must have put some new scrolls in the ones we haven't found yet

Because it has been a long time since a new scroll has appeared

[lament sail]

That is correct yet

Yes*

We currently lack the knowledge to do so

[floral charm]

Current distribution hypothesis, a pool of clues shared between scrolls and pools for each scroll, so you could get something from the specific pool or the general pool.
This does not account for same clue, multiple pools

Seeing as how there was duplication between future and past

Or the devs could be evil and have 4 pools with duplicate clues

[lofty bloom]

guys

has anyone tried the chess?

[night oriole]

Maybe there's a box on the lower right side of the board that can pop up?

[lament sail]

Not unlikely

But we'd need new chess clues

[floral charm]

Maybe a broadcast will have the clues?

[night oriole]

Is it time for the official release？

[lament sail]

We don't know.

[winged shell]

maybe I mean

these are keys for roots?

[lament sail]

Where in Roots, though m

Though.*

[winged shell]

I am downloading

try to play it again

but roots is not It's not updated

[lament sail]

Ye that's fair

I wasn't expecting it to be but you never know

[timber rapids]

guys，Is it cheating to delete the game and then download it again?（google translate）

[lament sail]

@timber rapids we ask you not too

It's no fun.

@solemn spade thank you!

Not a new scroll but thank you for sharing

[solemn spade]

I’m very new here, what is that gift thing??

[winged shell]

a key to next new key

they always do that

[plucky falcon]

how do you get this scroll it doesnt open

[winged shell]

ur year

1867

and enter

[plucky falcon]

thank you

anyway my scrolls arent new ones

[slim vale]

I just learned that the Chinese version of the way of taking blood is different, so how do you take blood there?

sorry，I clicked it wrong

[grave merlin]

Can white squares and black squares form a chessboard?(From machine translation

[night oriole]

new？

[clever pagoda]

new

[fickle palm]

Good...

[frank heart]

Yeeees

You very good

[night oriole]

wait

[frank heart]

?

[night oriole]

all new？

[frank heart]

Minute

[frank heart]

Yes 🥸

Brooooo

where you found this ?

[bleak oriole]

How many scrolls have we found?

[clever pagoda]

around110

[bleak oriole]

what

no I mean per save file

[clever pagoda]

more than 110 already I think

ah

two

still two

[bleak oriole]

Do we know if there are any more

[clever pagoda]

I think there should be more

[bleak oriole]

Well did we use the rl social media

Cause those things had symbols in them

[clever pagoda]

still waiting for the stream

[frank heart]

Yes, this Looks how true

[clever pagoda]

this can be a huge map of icons

[plucky falcon]

I feel like we should be overlaying the other symbols on top of each other, the ones with the lines

[night oriole]

all new

[clever pagoda]

no

some already exist

[night oriole]

all right

i

going to find more

[clever pagoda]

We really need to reorganize the info

[plucky falcon]

Like this last one
On top of its matching symbol in the grids

[clever pagoda]

cause theres A LOT of symbols

[night oriole]

I made a post collecting

ture

[plucky falcon]

In a doc, they should be separated into categories
Like Grids, Lines, Standalone and Equals Black/White

[night oriole]

new？

[frank heart]

yes...

[frank heart]

Bro... you legendary

[night oriole]

new？

[clever pagoda]

? where are these come from

are they stand alone

[night oriole]

A credit to everyone

[clever pagoda]

or you crop them from the 3*3 grid?

[frank heart]

RAMPAGE

[frank heart]

Solo way

[night oriole]

of course not

[clever pagoda]

nice!!!

[ebon cedar]

Is that a bug?

[clever pagoda]

yeah its a bug

[lament sail]

@night oriole where are you collecting

@opal turret did you pull that from the game giles?

.ban @opal turret datamining

[grim sphinx]

MURLOC617#2539 was banned

[lament sail]

let that be an example:)

[fickle palm]

Rest in piece...

But it is bad.

[lament sail]

that's why you get banned if you share datamined assets;)

[fickle palm]

Here is the blood heh

[night oriole]

red book

[lament sail]

red book?

[night oriole]

A Chinese social app

[lament sail]

okay

thanks.

[unreal chasm]

Seems like there are two different systems with some duplication in many places

[clever pagoda]

and we organized some group chats in Chinese so that it won't interrupt the main chat on discord

[lament sail]

Sure

aslong as you keep relaying information!

could y'all maybe share those 3x3 grids? im missing some of those on my canvas.

@clever pagoda I'm going to trust you on this; please do not relay any datamined information.

(or anyone whose shoveling information back and forth)

[lament sail]

the consequences speak for themselves

[clever pagoda]

? where do you get these green ones

[lament sail]

green ones?

[clever pagoda]

this one

[clever pagoda]

i'm not quite understand the colors

[lament sail]

we got that one! but thanks

[zealous stag]

is this a perma ban?

[lament sail]

that it is.

[bleak oriole]

Any idea what this thing is? Found it on the Laketober week1 winner presentation

[unreal chasm]

green？Only blue, yellow, red on this?I think you're talking about blue, the blue ones come from those *items=blocks

[lament sail]

they're free to reach out after the secret is solved to appeal though. but they will not be seeing the server while the secret is not solved

[lament sail]

used in a demo secret

[bleak oriole]

really?

[lament sail]

Yep.

[bleak oriole]

so are all the social media secrets for the demo?

[lament sail]

so far with the exception of the livestreams

[balmy yew]

@bleak oriole？？？

[bleak oriole]

what?

[balmy yew]

Where were you find

[bleak oriole]

the Laketober week1 winner presentation

[night oriole]

I added and sorted this out on top of the original

Hope there is some help

[lament sail]

tahnks!

[balmy yew]

my god

[unreal chasm]

Great!！

[clever pagoda]

omg

GREAT

[uneven pagoda]

gooooooooood

[fickle palm]

Ohhhhh

Great job

[unreal chasm]

我想问这个有清晰一点的吗？这个在软件里打开噪点已经不容忽视了（不知道怎么翻译）

[zealous stag]

he's asking if there is a clearer version

[clever pagoda]

链接在置顶里

可以去网页看

[lament sail]

the pins in?

this is the magmaboard right

[clever pagoda]

link pinned

[lament sail]

ye thanks y'all

[unreal chasm]

thank you very much!

[lament sail]

hey we got an overlapping 3x3 again?

[clever pagoda]

yeah!

many overlapping

[fickle palm]

But it is much bigger than I expected.

[lament sail]

Yep

[fickle palm]

But it looks like become some maze too

7x7...?

Or much bigger.

[half tusk]

maze or qr code guys

or maze AND qr code

maybe 5x6

5x5*

[boreal flax]

if it is a qr code, it has to be 21 x 21 minimum, which requires 10 grid images for one side, so we'll have a total of 100 grid images?

I'm thinking there might just be multiple 7x7 mazes

[lament sail]

That'd b a shitton of Grid images

[fickle palm]

(Literary brain explosion)

[boreal flax]

all that work for a tiny qr code

[lament sail]

Video links to Albert rickroll

[boreal flax]

perfect, just as Albert would've wanted

[nocturne flicker]

O my god

[lament sail]

This is why he wanted to be revived in rhe 80s

[boreal flax]

it all makes sense now

[nocturne flicker]

@night oriole legend

[fickle palm]

It makes me remind to Kaizo trap's trauma....

(Why it is not correct!! Why!)

[night oriole]

🫡

[astral token]

did the symbols you got from ce collection mean anything?

[twin plank]

Hey guys! I found a scroll. Is this a new one?

[clever pagoda]

yeah!

new one

[nocturne flicker]

I think so

Thanks

[clever pagoda]

where is this file?

[twin plank]

GREAT!

[lament sail]

the magma linked in the pins

[clever pagoda]

the magma page is not updated

[lament sail]

O its not

oop I thought it was.

[ornate sentinel]

the scrolls?

[lament sail]

ye?

[ornate sentinel]

how did you find the scrolls?

well, let me check the chat history

[lament sail]

check the pinned document!

[night oriole]

wait i send it to you

[frank flax]

someonw please what is the closest to the heart of Albert vanderboom💀

[lament sail]

@frank flax check the breast pocket.

[frank flax]

wdym breast pocket? you mean the one in the past should check?

[nocturne flicker]

Yes

[uneven pagoda]

yes

[lament sail]

not a file extension I know!

[night oriole]

can you open it？@clever pagoda

new one？

[lament sail]

seems like it?

also when sharing scrolls would you mind just sharing the entire screen instead of the cut outs?

[night oriole]

My pictures are those that others have shared with me

but i ll note that

[lament sail]

Ye I sorta suspected that

like if you cant its okay its a minor thing but I prefer to see the entire scroll 😅

[night oriole]

ok

[orchid valley]

it seems that there are lots of icons from this pic that haven't been shared in discord or google doc before , could u plz share a clearer version of each of them? then I can add them to magma. thx

[lament sail]

Ye I've been trying to play catch in the doc

the Chinese community is racing! (complimentary)

[night oriole]

I just shared a document, can't open it？

[cerulean junco]

no file extension？

[orchid valley]

sry, i havent seen this kind of file. i cannot open it

[orchid valley]

maybe the file extension is [.prodrafts]

[night oriole]

I'll try to transform it

[cerulean junco]

lol totally no idea

[orchid valley]

thx, that will helps a lot

[night oriole]

Can only be converted to PDF

Can it be opened this time?

[lament sail]

I can open the PDF yep

[orchid valley]

yep, thx

[nocturne flicker]

Thank you very much

[night oriole]

No thanks necessary

[clever pagoda]

Almost 140 icons

[lament sail]

Jeez

[clever pagoda]

139

wonder how many left

[pliant cedar]

Will rusty lake release more hints today？

[sly imp]

Who knows?

[lament sail]

we dont know aye

keeping my eye on the youtube incase a broadcast drops at one. but haha

[tepid marten]

I don't know,but there may be two other reels.

[sly imp]

maybe at 13.00

[lament sail]

@tepid marten there probably are more scrolls yes! we just dont know how to grab em.

[tepid marten]

there may be live broadcast.

I guess the reel may be in the second chapter

[lament sail]

I think it would make sense to have something in the second chapter yes.

[fickle palm]

I hope special streaming today....

[tepid marten]

However,compared with the first chapter,the second chapter has fewer operable mechanisms,so I don't know where the reel is.

[foggy pine]

I don't know whether this will help with decryption.
Of course if this isn't useful, you can ignore this picture.

[pliant cedar]

Maybe the blackboard has something hidden

[bleak oriole]

You know I kinda expected that to be a secret puzzle but I couldn't find any way of entering a code like that

[lament sail]

its good to bring up, but im unsure what to do with it.

[tepid marten]

This puzzle looks so difficult

I have no idea

Finding clues in two-player mode is a little more complicated than finding clues in single-player mode, and you have to get past the previous levels first... You have to memorize the answer without the other one.

[slim vale]

I'm curious about this place, I think there might be something hidden here

[lament sail]

well normally the tooth comes out of it but maybe theres an alternative solution!

[slim vale]

I don't know, I'm just curious, it would be great if it could help solve the puzzle

[lament sail]

No you're right!

[pliant cedar]

Agreed. It looks like a good place to hide something

[lament sail]

I think stuff like that ^ the blackboard the little wooden box maybe the piano puzzle

all prime real estate for secrets haha

[bitter holly]

will we have another livestream today?

[lament sail]

we dont know

i have youtube open lol

[fickle palm]

I hope, but...we don't know...

[lament sail]

we might need to wait till after the weekend 😅

[bitter holly]

well 😭

[pliant cedar]

And the size seems to be more suitable for a scroll

[bitter holly]

the first livestream was at 1/11, second one was at 3/11 and today is 5/11 so maybe there's one??? i hope so 😭

[lament sail]

mhm fair point.

[sly imp]

We also had the release trailer inbetween

[bitter holly]

well this was the time that the other 2 livestreams started and nothing happens today

[lament sail]

Indeed

[bitter holly]

no livestream 😭

[silk wraith]

has anyone mentioned these seemingly morse code mark already? (Future Ch. 1)

its blurry as hell yes but if you go ingame you can probably see it clearer

[lament sail]

No I have not

I wanna say tis stylised "dirty glass"

[clever pagoda]

omg

[lament sail]

but who knows.

[silk wraith]

if you look at it ingame it definitely looks like morse code

[lament sail]

Ill have to take a lil look later.

[lofty bloom]

gonna try

[lament sail]

note tthat this is in the future

I made the mistake of starting in the past and was like huh I dont see anything

all clean! haha

[lofty bloom]

yep, didn't see anything

[lament sail]

ye i do see it in the future

but theres no way thats legibile lol

good shout though!@

[floral charm]

Lemme yeet it up on a 4k display..........

[lament sail]

Efadd out here FLEXXING

[floral charm]

. .. . I think I found a bug, lemme open the game bar....

[peak sparrow]

I don’t know whether they are useful? They are the new ?

[lament sail]

I think we have both of these but thank you for sharing

[restive minnow]

hi guys I got this shap and didn't see it in the atlas above.I guess this a new one？

The hour hand is between 9 and 12.

[lucid parrot]

Did you hear morse code when the butterfly flew out of the box

[lament sail]

No I didnt, is there? canyou translate?

[lament sail]

I have it documented! but thank you for sharing

[restive minnow]

OK

[lucid parrot]

When the butterfly is in the box, it makes a sound, then flies out and disappears

[floral charm]

Just looks like window smudge, then my laptop cooked itself

[tepid marten]

I just got a new idea. Maybe we can look for clues in the audio of the game

[lament sail]

Ye if what Guabao is saying is true maybe

but I wouldnt know where to look

[tepid marten]

The audio from Rust Lake Live was generated as a text, maybe even in the game

We might explore in-game sounds, perhaps Morse code, or some other form of clue

[autumn bloom]

then bee users cannot get the morse code

i personally think it is not morse

[lament sail]

@past fog datamine and get banned for the remainder of the ARG.

[blissful aurora]

how many symbols have been found now?

[clever pagoda]

140

[tepid marten]

about 140

[blissful aurora]

woooo

where i can got the collection

[lament sail]

there's a few helpful links in the pins

[lofty bloom]

check the history

[tepid marten]

Maybe you can scroll up, someone posted part of it earlier, though it's a little far away.

[lament sail]

and I believe im mostly up to date

[blissful aurora]

thx

[lament sail]

my ordering is a mess, though.

[tepid marten]

These are my scrolls

[lament sail]

both have been documented! thanks for sharing though

[hard ravine]

what are the scrolls?

[grim nexus]

They are the hidden secrets which brings us some weird symbols and grids

[lament sail]

theyre hidden items containing a mystery wer-

yep

[hard ravine]

how do u find them

just so u know i've completed the past (butterfly)

[lament sail]

check the pinned document!

[hard ravine]

wtf that is so confusing 😭

[lament sail]

thats probably the point.

[tepid marten]

Try this one

[hard ravine]

the previous games weren't this confusing

[lament sail]

id disagree ¯_(ツ)_/¯

the white door ARG was quite something

[grim nexus]

Well it’s a bit more than just a game, it’s a whole event and that’s prolly why)

[hard ravine]

well yeah twd was a bit confusing but I still understood the basic plot of it. apart from the secret endings

[hard ravine]

fair

[tepid marten]

Enter 1867 (Albert's birthday) in the future device year and swipe the device to 2, 4, 4

[velvet osprey]

omg i can’t figure it out 🥲

[amber swift]

Does anyone know when the next live stream will be? I didn't know what to do after checking the scrolls, it was mine and my friend's, and it had all been found🥹

[lament sail]

I believe we've found all of those

thanks for sharing though

no ETA on the new livestream.

[blissful aurora]

I got the same scrolls

[amber swift]

thank you！！！

[lament sail]

ah thanks for sharing!

[amber swift]

Have we already collected all the scrolls for this stage?🤔 Or is there a probability that these scrolls will appear?

[serene snow]

Hi I got these scrolls,, are they new ???

[lament sail]

that grid is new!

both of them are I think!

[fast portal]

Great

[bitter holly]

how many symbols do we have so far? probably like 100 or sumn 💀

[floral charm]

Literally 1 message later, nope!

[amber swift]

😂 I guess I was just out of luck

[tepid marten]

What if there is no new broadcast? Does that mean we have to look for clues in the game (after all, the previous Easter eggs are in the game)?

[lament sail]

@tepid marten maybe?

[amber swift]

Will it be related to the symbol that appears on the top right of each level after the Cube Escape Collection has all achievements?🤔 Just guessing

[bitter holly]

we're not sure

right now we have so many symbols but little guidance to understand what the symbols mean

[nocturne flicker]

Yeees its new, thank you

[unkempt glen]

Is there clues to this pic?

[lament sail]

Unlikely.

[crystal pecan]

I mean
There's a time...

[lament sail]

2PMs everywhere

[floral charm]

It's 5pm somewhwere

[bleak oriole]

Maybe 2-4-4 refers to April 24th, which while not exact, is quite close to his canon birth date of April 26th (source:wiki)

[mild panther]

I don't know if they were or not, but just in case I 'll throw

[lament sail]

I think we have both of em but thank you!!

[unkempt glen]

What about these pics?

[lament sail]

whats a jfif extensis file?

extension*

not one ive seen before lmao

o those are the laketober lists

no as someone whose helped compile those i can attest that there is nothing odd about them.

[unkempt glen]

Oh,thanks

[gilded gull]

Does anyone know how to get the scroll from the chalkboard in the future, chapter 2？

[lament sail]

No.

that one eludes us

[crystal pecan]

I have been staring at that spot for a full day now

[south phoenix]

I got these
But it seems that they are known items

[lament sail]

they are! but thanks for sharing 😄

[tepid marten]

This is the first official trailer for Rust Lake, but it's not actually in the game

[lament sail]

omg that pumpkin heaed

[crystal pecan]

Interesting to see the candle and mirror in place, and something with a painting

I know it's been 5 days, but Halloween update when?

[tepid marten]

That's probably because the photo was released just in time for Halloween 2019

[lament sail]

https://tenor.com/view/halloween-the-nightmare-before-christmas-mayor-gif-12805942

• 5, I guess.

[crystal pecan]

Need me more halloween content. Surely that will lead to a scroll

[lament sail]

I think that coffin might be new

and the glass ball!

two new ones.

[lean jackal]

no

we have these

[lament sail]

then why are they not in the document?

[lean jackal]

they are

[lament sail]

ah ye

im blind.

then why are they not in my document*

[nocturne flicker]

Can anyone add this in magma?)

[past oriole]

well my scroll icons are duplicates :/

[lean jackal]

sure

[nocturne flicker]

Thanks

[lean jackal]

oh, we have that already

[blissful aurora]

who has the new clues document

[lament sail]

What new clues document?

[blissful aurora]

collection of symbals

[lament sail]

everything is collected in the pinned documents you'll find.

[blissful aurora]

okay

[lean jackal]

can i delete this from magma? it is unusual, as we stuck grids in another drawing and have all of scrolls in another

[open flame]

when should I change the slider puzzle? It doesn't work in future bee

[orchid valley]

okay, i will remove it

[lean jackal]

thanks

[lean jackal]

you can look at doc at pins

[open flame]

well I did

I'll try one more time

[lean jackal]

when you start a future chapter, you need put year of birth, then cubical device shows that it's time to go to slider puzzle

[open flame]

Can I put slider right after the 1867?

[lean jackal]

that is fair way

[open flame]

ok!

I did it! and It is on the doc...

[tranquil dock]

I just came looking for help on achievements and you all look way deeper in the secrets than I knew there were, is someone able to catch me up with the secrets please?

[lament sail]

@tranquil dock Rusty Lake livestreamed two weird streams of cubes

secrets in the stream revealed ways for us to access hidden scrolls.

we've got a 100+ scrolls right now, still collecting more trying to make sense of them

[tranquil dock]

Is there a list of how we've got the current scrolls?

[onyx coral]

ummmm, I find this scroll and not sure if it is helpful

[lament sail]

we already have this, but thank you

@tranquil dock check the pins!

[slow parcel]

does it have a high quality version?

[tranquil dock]

Omg this is deep in the sauce

[lean jackal]

you can export it, but that is what we have

[tranquil dock]

So every player has the same method to get their scrolls? But the scrolls are different?

[lean jackal]

yes

[slow parcel]

yes ,i think so

maybe there is more to be find

[tranquil dock]

Does bee or butterfly matter?

[onyx coral]

No matter. I think one account only can have two scrolls

[lament sail]

yes.

at the momentt

there may be scrolls we cannot reach.

[opal mist]

does the = being solid or empty matter?

[lament sail]

eventually.

right now we dont know

[cinder pewter]

so, it seems like the mobile versions already have 4 scroll options right?

[lament sail]

No?

[cinder pewter]

I mean 4 options but only 2 unlocked?

[lament sail]

O

ye likely.

[cinder pewter]

I remember seeing a pic about it

[lean jackal]

have one question. there is one W in grid and one at symbols. can you take a look if they are similar or is one uppercase and the second is lowercase?

i think they are different

[lament sail]

I think theyre the same

each item in the grid has an = cube and a line form, likely.

[opal mist]

but there is 9 and reverse e

[lament sail]

(the line form can also just be the item)

[opal mist]

so i think we can keep this question open

[tranquil dock]

I found this one from chapter 1 future

[lament sail]

weve got that one! but thank you

[tranquil dock]

I got this one too, but I think you already have that one. And there's only 2 scrolls per person?

[lament sail]

currently yes

thank you for sahring!!

[grim nexus]

For now we thing yes, only 2 for a person. Maybe there will be more later

[lean jackal]

so much different symbols in details

[lament sail]

yep!

[ancient shore]

if you delete the game and reinstall on mobile it resets the scrolls

easy way to find multiple per person

[lament sail]

WE ask that you do not do that

it defeats the purpose of this being a community event.

[lean jackal]

try to organise everything and think: maybe only grids have some value for arg and devs just put as many variations as they can just to confuse us

[tranquil dock]

My partner just tried and they got nothing new

[ancient shore]

Yeah that’s a good point

[orchid valley]

i think they are the same. the right one's original pic may have a very low resolution, the resize process will lead to a sawtooth edge result

[cerulean junco]

lmao

[orchid valley]

• sigh

[cerulean junco]

dont tell you re-illustrated it from some phone shots

[lean jackal]

so hard

[winter idol]

anyone trying out scrolls that might be on butterfly P/F?

[cerulean junco]

maybe next time try to use some up-scaling algorithms like bicubic or trilinear

😂

[hallow acorn]

Bee and butterfly scrolls are the same

[orchid valley]

i dont think magma provide this kind of function

[cerulean junco]

never mind, good enough

[daring marlin]

waiting the secret ending is so long😫😫😫😫😫

[orchid valley]

[stiff dagger]

is there somewhere a summary which secrets were found and which weren't? or I must read all messages from the start of the conversation?

[lament sail]

@stiff dagger check the pins

[stiff dagger]

okay, thanks

[lament sail]

The google doc explains how to find the current secrets and has the symbols

[pliant cedar]

Will rusty lake release more hints tomorrow? Or the new hints only will be released if all the scrolls have been founded

[lament sail]

I don't know

Wr don't know

[stiff dagger]

i have found only one script at the moment but I assume it was found by the others already

[lament sail]

It could be a monday thing, when the weekend is done

[pliant cedar]

Just can't wait to know the hidden end

[lament sail]

@stiff dagger it's increasingly likely but we really appreciate you sharing regardless

[stiff dagger]

this one

the books from the cabin

[twin light]

I made a google sheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1f12itYCio9_KC9TwGwqowjLvCStxCoB7MYOVNcOrEP8/edit?usp=sharing

I figured we could use it to assemble everything once we have it

[open flame]

great!

[twin light]

Thanks

[lunar sapphire]

Damn this is so great

[lament sail]

I'll add this to my pinned messages when i get back from dinner

[autumn cobalt]

may i ask what's these black cells means?

[open flame]

I think that's the sign=cube code

[twin light]

Yes, exactly

[lament sail]

Ye I won't pretend I know what anything in the sheet means

But it looks Awesome

[autumn cobalt]

ok, thx

[twin light]

Similarly, the lines under “Maze” indicate symbols with borders, the upper left category in the Magma. Question marks are unknowns

[cerulean junco]

good job!

[pliant cedar]

Awesome

[tranquil dock]

I'm sorry if I'm being stupid, but how are you all grouping the symbols?

[stray thistle]

Wow you guys have been busy

[twin light]

Some of the ones in the 3x3 clues overlap

[tranquil dock]

Do you mean maze like the one you have to guide the future around?

[twin light]

I don’t know, I just have a feeling that we’re going to have something resembling a maze in the end

[lament sail]

That's actually a super mean thing to say that diminishes the work of a lot pf people

[twin light]

It doesn’t sound mean to me

[lament sail]

We've been constantly busy

[stray thistle]

I wasn't intending to be mean? I just meant that you've done a lot of work

[lament sail]

Just dropping that bc someone dropped a spreadsheet just hits me the wrong way

[twin light]

It just sounded like an earnest comment

[balmy yew]

@twin light What this?

[stray thistle]

I didn't?

[lament sail]

Fine then.

[twin light]

My theory is that the clues are instructions for making two grids using the same symbols: a maze of lines and a set of black and white squares (possibly a QR code). The 3x3 sets of symbols are overlapping puzzle pieces, and the other clues are keys for filling in the result

[lament sail]

That makes sense.

[open flame]

That's great theory but then what will the maze does?

[twin light]

I feel like we’ll know once we have everything

[lunar sapphire]

Isn't the minimum grid for QR code 21x21? that's 441 icons we have to get, right now we are only have a quarter.

[open flame]

oh ok

[lament sail]

I have a running theory that the "maze" may also just be letters

Like we'll end up with words / a sentence

[twin light]

Also plausible

[lament sail]

But I don't inow.

Know*

[lunar sapphire]

I have a wild theory that just doesn't lead anywhere but I think might be interesting

[twin light]

Well we don’t know exactly how many secret scrolls there are

[ancient shore]

the maze would likely be the puzzle from future 2?

[open flame]

that makes sense!

[twin light]

Go on?

[lament sail]

Honestly just drop it ye lol

[lunar sapphire]

just all the 3x3 grid and you know the xyz123 passwords in the game

what if this is gonna be a 3d image instead of 2d

like a rubix cube

[twin light]

That would be very interesting

[lament sail]

Something we'll have to print and fold over?

Would b cool.

[lunar sapphire]

yeah, I mean in game you get a cube machine and you have to examine different sides of it

[open flame]

that's quite interesting

[lunar sapphire]

the "xyz123" just seems like a 3d coordinate to me as well

[tranquil dock]

Wait, did the 3x3s come as they were, they weren't put together by y'all?

[lament sail]

Ye I've pondered it that

[tranquil dock]

Because I've been trying to work out how you made the 3x3s 😅

[lunar sapphire]

some 3x3 come as a whole I believe

[crystal pecan]

Some people get 3x3s, some people get an Icon=Cube and some people get just an icon

And some icons have lines next to them

That's the gist of it

[lament sail]

My favourite scroll is sammy = cool mod

[crystal pecan]

😄

My fav is the hug icons surrounding damy in a 3x3

[lament sail]

[crystal pecan]

But yeah, we've had plenty of full screengrabs to show that this is simply what the game is putting out

[lament sail]

Albert no

[stiff dagger]

there was a moment in the game where like someone from the past in 3D had a 3x3 square with black or white smaller squares and the person from the future needed to use it somewhere, is it possible that we will must to use them there??? sorry if I explained it badly, English is not my first language and it's kinda hard for me to write it in English

[lunar sapphire]

QR code looks like is the most doable theory. but we still needs another 300ish icons....

[stiff dagger]

I'm talking about this moment in the game

i don't know if it makes any sense

[ancient shore]

ive been thinking the same thing

plus the cubes in the scrolls look identical to these

[lunar sapphire]

guys, we need to figure out a way to collect more icons, can we maybe post about it in the steam game discussion board?

[crystal pecan]

You could put out a call to action

[lunar sapphire]

I believe a lot of people don't even know that there is a secret in the game.

[winter idol]

doesn't work on past bee 1

[crystal pecan]

The current main theory is indeed that the Icon=cube ones refer to the 3x3 block puzzle/this. We just need to figure out what it actually means in the context of the game

It's such a fun community puzzle

[ancient shore]

yes

although the maze/qr theory is entertaining as well

[crystal pecan]

We'll find out eventually 😄

[lament sail]

We've put out feelere in Reddit steam and Facebook

Tweeting will just get lost

[lunar sapphire]

I am Chinese so I will try to message some of the streamer or content creator. see if they like to put a word out there

[winter idol]

I hope there are two groups, one to figure out scroll icons and to find out ways to get other scrolls from what we know

[karmic breach]

The fact is, we haven't got new scrolls since yesterday

so i tend to believe that we should focus on another 2 scrolls

*or "way much fewer scrolls"

[open flame]

so now we don't know will there be scrolls in chapter 2?

[winter idol]

I agree on that too

[karmic breach]

I think there will be one

[boreal thicket]

Here's mine. Don't know if these new one or just repeated

[karmic breach]

If you check ur achievement page

It's quite obvious that

[open flame]

both are alreay on magma

[winter idol]

I think there will be two based on the positions of scrolls on achievements

[karmic breach]

these 2 scroll icons are asymmetric

[karmic breach]

agreed

if only 2 scrolls exist, that makes no sense

[open flame]

mmm

[karmic breach]

and we can actually find the scroll icon

on ep.2

the blackboard

It just lies there

[winter idol]

maybe we dig on that

[lament sail]

@karmic breach yep!!

[boreal thicket]

Maybe these symbol will finally fit together and make a QR code?

[karmic breach]

idk if someone succeed in bruteforcing it

[boreal thicket]

Just like the puzzle, take all the pieces together

[uneven pagoda]

maybe it will get out from the blackboard just.like.thekey

[karmic breach]

totally agreed

so, the question is, which icons should we circle to get the scroll

and no result so far

[uneven pagoda]

we need to find another order of the icons

[open flame]

if the future ch2 blackboard is to get a scroll, it must not use symbols that we found. right?

[tranquil dock]

What came of the Instagram captions? Where RL asked if we noticed anything different?

[karmic breach]

we dont know

[lament sail]

@tranquil dock what caption?

[uneven pagoda]

player of thepass use a story with underline to get the key out

maybe there is another story？

[karmic breach]

unlikely

[tranquil dock]

In the first laketober, there were a couple of odd symbols (on day 2 and 5 at least), idk if the caption refers to anything else too

[crystal pecan]

The underlined words puzzle leads to the chalkboard, and there is a visible scroll on the chalkboard

so who knows

[lament sail]

@tranquil dock it was for the demo secret

[tranquil dock]

Ohhh ok thanks, I didn't play the demo so I didn't get spoilers

[karmic breach]

and, no sign of hidden scroll in the ep2 of the past

[ancient shore]

does anyone remember when golden symbols were revealed at 100% in ce: collection?

[lament sail]

@karmic breach it could b hidden in like the piano puzzle or whatever

[ancient shore]

idk if they were ever used

[karmic breach]

yea I think so

[stiff dagger]

there are hints in a RL community's box (? i don't know how to name it in English), were they used already?

i think

they are hints

[karmic breach]

if you refer to the pic posted on ins

it was just a cake

not a cube

[stiff dagger]

something like this for example

[stray thistle]

rusty lake made a tweet on twitter that said ios got a new feature

[karmic breach]

personally I doubt these 3 puzzles in ep2 :the red, black and white ; the piano and the 123XYZ one

[stray thistle]

does anyone know what they meant?

[tranquil dock]

What about the images in the cube on the livestream? Can they be translated to blackboard symbols?

[stray thistle]

we used those images to find the second scroll

[whole canyon]

the intern image is surely a thing
because in the cube cake image the l with dot is gone
(unless we solved it, then sorry)

[lament sail]

@whole canyon we did

For the demand

Demo***

[floral charm]

I have a save of that, idk if they were used yet

[whole canyon]

OH
Okay okay mb

[lament sail]

@stray thistle could you maybe share a link or screenshot?

[stray thistle]

of the tweet?

[karmic breach]

I think there're more livestreams

[lament sail]

@stray thistle yes please.

[tranquil dock]

Thank you, sorry, still catching up 😅

[lament sail]

@karmic breach maybe starting monday ? When the weekends is over

[karmic breach]

every livestream we get a hint of a scroll

[stray thistle]

https://twitter.com/rustylakecom/status/1588583547480453120?t=iY_oPC8wp5ISpBRU8vg0hw&s=19

Rusty Lake 🚣‍♂️ The Past Within (@rustylakecom)

The Past Within got a big feature today @AppStoreGames 🎉🎉🎉

Likes

330

Twitter · Nov 4, 2022, 5:26 PM

[karmic breach]

possibly

[stray thistle]

oh wait is the tweet saying the game is available on the app store?

[karmic breach]

cuz we cant get any other useful info of the remaining scrolls

[lament sail]

Ah I think it's just a celebration tweet

Ye apple featured them so they're more visible

[stray thistle]

got it

[tranquil dock]

Is there anything on merch maybe?

[lament sail]

Hahaha I don't know

[stray thistle]

merch? 👀

[ancient shore]

Have these been used for anything yet?

[lament sail]

Ye there's rl merch!

Nope

[tranquil dock]

Idk, I was just watching RL ig story and they featured someone who had some related items

[crystal pecan]

The icons from the Collection haven't been used in anything, but several of the scroll icons are identical to Collection achievements (just blacked out)
So uh, fun fact?

[tranquil dock]

Could we perhaps mess up the Frankenstein differently?

[karmic breach]

then you cant go on to the next step

[ancient shore]

Maybe some of the undiscovered scrolls will be those symbols

[karmic breach]

if making a mistake, you're forced to do it from the first step

[stiff dagger]

i think there is a scroll in a chess game

[tranquil dock]

What about relating the order of the achievements to the blackboard?

[karmic breach]

these icons dont match the ones on the blackboard

[stray thistle]

how many moves did the chess game take?

[karmic breach]

in my theory, we can get 4 scrolls from EACH episode

and we've got the scroll from ep.1

[winter idol]

5

[stiff dagger]

white 5
black 4

[ancient shore]

Could the chess game relate to the one in roots

[karmic breach]

no update on old games

[stiff dagger]

chess in the roots are 6x6 too

maybe making a sequence from roots in tpw

will work?

[karmic breach]

you can try it

[stiff dagger]

cerebrum sequence

[stiff dagger]

i will, but i need to get to the point where I have chess figures

[karmic breach]

i remember that RL uploaded the walkthrough

[karmic breach]

already got but thx

[midnight blaze]

Here's mine.

[lament sail]

thank you all for sharing!!

[stiff dagger]

unfortunately it's not this

[lunar sapphire]

If there are two more scrolls in the second chapter, there might be another two lives

or there is just something that we haven't figure out yet in the existing two live videos

[stiff dagger]

there is a box sequence in a rl's community YouTube thing

this sequence doesn't work for bee and I don't know if it's good for the butterfly

if it doesn't work on neither, maybe it will work somewhere else? like here

i haven't played as the future yet, but I will do it today so I will check it

[ocean arrow]

yeah tpw has a lot of these puzzles with the 3x3 square

it could fit pretty much anywhere

[sly imp]

This one is for the demo

[stiff dagger]

oh, yes, you are right

thanks

[lament sail]

None of those are new! but thank you for sharing:D

[subtle imp]

❤️

[lament sail]

hey someones adding abunch ofg scrolls to the documents and I have no idea where theyre coming from

could anyone enlighten me?

\

[glass agate]

Not sure if they’re new

[lament sail]

we have both of those! but thank you very much

[glass agate]

Np!

[lament sail]

weve got both of those but thank you!

[lament sail]

wevegot those too! but thank you!!

[slim vale]

I have an idea if the order of the mazes we walk in the demo can correspond to the pattern ordering of the blackboard

[lament sail]

got that one! thanks tho!

[agile escarp]

is there any chance I could get a short summary of what we know? Thanks

[lament sail]

@agile escarp weird livestreams leading usto secret scrolls with a bunch of content

each scroll is different for us if you havent opened ur scrolls yet please share them here!

we've got a few running theories about what the scrolls could lead to

[agile escarp]

ok I have this one

[lament sail]

we have that one documented! but thanks!!

[frank heart]

Okey, one very cool person ( This ➡️ Simple ) he give VERY many scroll

[lament sail]

actually wait a min

@frank heart explain some more?

where are these many scrolls coming from?

[frank heart]

Nobody know

but

he solo way

[lament sail]

that sounds really suspicious

so he either owns a lot of copies

or he's datamining.

[lament sail]

wait is that fan one new actually?

i dont see it in the doc but im also really tired.

[frank heart]

Yes, but this correct

[lament sail]

ah no its there

just spotted it as I said it lmaoo

[frank heart]

because fit

[stray thistle]

Didn't they say it was others'?

[frank heart]

I think no

[frank heart]

If he had been a dataminer, he would have leaked more data. I think he just worked hard

[lament sail]

Sure.

[frank heart]

or he use pirate copies and bot

[lament sail]

I'd still heavily discourage that

but its all fine for now

[frank heart]

But I think it doesn't matter

[lament sail]

well I think that it does

this is supposed to be a community event, datamining / grinding scrolls defeats its purpose.

[frank heart]

oh...

yes

[lament sail]

either way I'm still not sure where the new scrolls come from

and I trust y'all to be "legit" so to speak

so it's fine

just wanted to ask if anyone knew.

[frank heart]

You're right

Because this can be how in "The binding of Isaac "

you remember how be in "The binding of Isaac " Lost ARG

[lament sail]

No. No I really do not

[frank heart]

One dataminer ruined ARG

[lament sail]

ah ye it happens

[frank heart]

He found new hero

[frank heart]

Good job bro

[frank heart]

One new scroll

[lament sail]

Ohey news!

lets gooo

thank you for sharing

[frank heart]

yes

[frank heart]

Thank you

[clever pagoda]

simple collect the results on chinese social media

[lament sail]

is this a reply to my question @clever pagoda ?

if so; thank you.

[clever pagoda]

yesterday we set up a group and now its over 500 people(

[lament sail]

O my you're growing rapidly! haha

any major breakthroughs there or mostly scrolls?

[clever pagoda]

not much, we are trying to put together the maze and it seems someone also did it here in discord

and we almost confirm the type of scrolls has to do with time and time zone

[lament sail]

okay

[clever pagoda]

also this, confirmed there will be new release of clues for new scrolls

so much for now

[lament sail]

Fair enough

[clever pagoda]

the only thing I'm worry about is that what if the RL team won't release the new clues until we collect most (if not all) of the symbols of the first two scrolls?

[lament sail]

people will get impatient and start datamining?

[clever pagoda]

yeah

[lament sail]

if they do they get banned, simple as that.

[clever pagoda]

lmao

I understand that the team want to call for the effort from a global community

[lament sail]

Absolutely

[lament sail]

both ones we have! but thanks for sharing

[stiff dagger]

can someone do it? it would be easier to read I think

[near crypt]

Here are my two:

[lament sail]

Tnank you!

[rigid drum]

wat in tarnation

[lament sail]

Yes!

we've had that one documented but thank you for sharing!

[lament sail]

Thank you for sharing!!

[pliant drift]

🧐 🧐 🧐 🧐 📜

[finite cliff]

how did you get the scrolls ?

[lament sail]

There's currently two we can access

We discovered them by deciphering clues left in livestreams discovered on the rusty lake YouTube channel

[finite cliff]

1867 i know but :/ i cant open

[lament sail]

Each person has found that their Scrolls contain different content

[stray thistle]

Did you set the sliders?

[lament sail]

The slider puzzle was bruteforced, it's 2 4 4 left to right top to bottom

[finite cliff]

😦

[finite cliff]

oh txh

i found this

[lament sail]

Thank you!

I'm a bit too sleepy to tell if it's new or not but we really appreciate you sharing either way

[finite cliff]

where is the second scroll?

[lament sail]

It's in the past

The coal box, you need certain symbols to open it

[finite cliff]

for each unique?

[lament sail]

I'm unsure what you mean with that

[lament sail]

thank you!!

[lament sail]

Thank you for sharing!!

[finite cliff]

what do these symbols give us?

[floral charm]

Dunno yet tbh

[lament sail]

Neither! But I'm excited to see the sheet come together more

[finite cliff]

Where is this labyrinth from?

[lament sail]

O wait I see

They're three 'versions' of the 3x3 grids

So our current theory goes; the 3x3 grids have unique items in them and some rows are the exact same leading us to believe that those rows must overlap

Then each item has a cube state either white or black, on or off

And a Line stare

State*

Left line bottom line top line right line corner piece or no line

So if we collect all the grids and overlap the lines on grid A and the cubes on grid B we'd get

*something "

[hollow oasis]

Tbh I don't think the grids linked only by one symbol in the corner are correct

[finite cliff]

hese three
in the future there is a 3x3 touchpad
maybeee????

[lament sail]

That's what I'm currently also agreeing with

People have tried to brute force the touchpads no dice

(we do discourage bruteforcing)

[twin light]

I think the moon is right, but not the 9/backwards e

[hollow oasis]

Also, I've seen in the doc that there is a secret message in the spectrogram of the official release trailer. So, I've tried the same thing on the "live action" trailer and the two 1h videos, but there are no secret messages.

[lament sail]

Good try!

[hollow oasis]

I agree, pretty sure they are two different symbols: a 9 and a mirrored e

[nocturne flicker]

Thanks

[tepid marten]

I wonder if the current scroll is saturated with clues. In fact, I have a feeling that the blackboard in Chapter 2 might actually hold the clue, because it has the scroll symbol, and maybe you can find the scroll.

I had a dream last night that I found the scroll, which I must admit is fascinating. Ha, ha, ha

[tepid marten]

Thank you for sharing

[hallow acorn]

We are aware of the blackboard scroll, but since we dont have a single clue on how to get it its better to not worry

[boreal oak]

Here are my scrolls

[hallow acorn]

Thx icey!

[lunar sapphire]

guys, make sure you don't mixed up the "9" with the "e"

[past oriole]

flipped 'e'

[lunar sapphire]

I fixed it

[rich wadi]

I do think it is mixed. one is number 9, or 6. the other one is flipped 'e'

[dense quiver]

Still no reasonable answer for brute-forced future part 1 scroll?

[lunar sapphire]

nah... I tried to look into everything

the live gives a hint that lead to another video for the future part q scroll

so I looked for all the trailer and videos they posted. found nothing

but maybe I just missed it

[tepid marten]

It's time to solve the case by brute force again

I'm going to try a few more times on that board

[lunar sapphire]

no need, since it is already announced that there will be future clues~~

[tidal sail]

And we also dont condone bruteforcing as it ruins the fun of discovering the puzzle!

[lunar sapphire]

first live was on 2nd, next one was on 4th. maybe there will be a new live today. you can look forward to that~

[dense quiver]

they did? where?

[lunar sapphire]

you mean the older live?

[tepid marten]

Ok 😂 then I won't break it violently

[dense quiver]

I mean announced there will be more clues via..what?

[crimson vigil]

how many time of scrolls could we get?

i mean, if I clean all the achievements, could I get a new scroll?

[dense quiver]

Nope

[lunar sapphire]

I believe someone posted a screen shot of the creator of the game said something like that in discord

but I can't really located the message now

[gilded edge]

kinda late but this is new

[lunar sapphire]

damn that is new! Thanks

[nocturne flicker]

Wooow, thank you

[gilded edge]

I just played the second time (not expecting I'd have something new at this point) sorry about the late upload!