📼｜tpw-bkm-arg

[hallow acorn]

Damy, which numbers do we have so far in the doc?

Feel free to share what you discover here, but i doubt they would reuse a clue

[desert python]

what doc? seems like im a little bit behind. would u mind share it?

[lament sail]

@desert python its in the pins

@hallow acorn give me a few minutes working on something

[karmic breach]

check out the pinned message

[desert python]

ok i found it

[lament sail]

thank you again Hiyoko

ur on it

[clever pagoda]

hey guys I made a jamboard
Link🔗is
https://jamboard.google.com/d/1RnOCeNhItyPhXM-7MRK0so_0eyCGrq-pF-rwa7qJHTc/edit?usp=sharing

please open on a PC

thats based on the doc

[hallow acorn]

Dang, i wanted to use the positions to see if theres a clue for some sequence, but just 3 numbers are useless

And thx hiyoko!

[lament sail]

those jamboards are so small

o my god

[clever pagoda]

yeah kinda difficult to edit(

my bad

[lament sail]

lmao its fine

[clever pagoda]

feel free to make any changes!

[lament sail]

thank u for ur efforts

[desert python]

thanks! this is useful

[lament sail]

If my layer amount is to be believed were dealing with ~80 unique scrolls at the moment lol

im sorry about the chaotic sizing / organisation

just wanted to create a quick dirty sorting overview

[gritty sand]

To be honest, the placement of the two scrolls is not strictly symmetrical compared to the other achievement ICONS above. I wonder if there are other scrolls we didn't find

[lament sail]

that is something we are currently taking into consideration @gritty sand !

so far we've found a scroll after each cube livestream, so maybe we'll get a livestream per scroll kinda deal?

[clever pagoda]

no new stream announced yet

[gritty sand]

Haha, it depends on the wisdom of all of us

[gilded wing]

锈湖贴吧有一个汇总贴的

[sly imp]

To be fair yesterday it wasn't announced until the last moment either

[clever pagoda]

ha

[gilded wing]

post on chinese forum, tieba： https://tieba.baidu.com/p/8122507732

[desert python]

thx

[hallow acorn]

We are hoping to see smth new in 4 hours

But yeah, they just drop the stream without further notice

[lament sail]

we seemingly have all of those covered!

but thanks for sharing

[fickle palm]

what scroll will announce today~

and where is the hint too~

[desert python]

I agreed

[gritty sand]

What we need to do now is probably try to get everyone who owns the game to open the hidden scroll. The larger the sample, the more information we can get

[lament sail]

agreed! I made a post on the facebook group earlier aswell

[desert python]

I think there's more hidden scroll undiscovered

[lament sail]

there have to be.

[cinder pewter]

that was the plan

and it seems like we have more than 2 scrolls per person

just dont know how to discover more

[fickle palm]

at least 4, maximum is 8 i guess

[lament sail]

but granted we've seen repeats in the two scrolls too

[sly imp]

4 is still my guess

[lament sail]

so more scrolls for us also means higher chances:)

No.

[cinder pewter]

I put my guess on 8 or 9 cause there are huge spaces between the two scrolls we have

[gritty sand]

Based on the arrangement and placement of the patterns, I think there are at least four scrolls

[lament sail]

Cake = black cube???

[cinder pewter]

also, I wonder if the scrolls have anything to do with with the devices

[fickle palm]

when Real ARG begin, there is so Interesting will be

[lament sail]

I think 4 seems reasonable, 8 seems excessive

but whatevers the case its exciting

[clever pagoda]

agreed. The moon appeared three times already. think about that every icon appears more than once

[cinder pewter]

like Steam platform or iOS

[clever pagoda]

that would be A LOT

[fickle palm]

I wonder about inside of cube cake

[cerulean junco]

A small thing to be considered, do we know which type does this pigpen cipher borders (lines) follow?

[fickle palm]

it can be some letter's or scroll etc...

[hallow acorn]

Theoretically you could wipe all your save files but thats too much of a pain (and would ruin the collective effort!)

[hallow acorn]

Nope

[lament sail]

currently the top, we dont have any symbols that are completely squared in?

[fickle palm]

I remembered on last ARG, so I tried find some accounts on instagram.

[cerulean junco]

OK but just some ideas, maybe not relevant at all

[lament sail]

ye no please drop anything you can think about

like literally no wrong answers here

[fickle palm]

anyway, I don't know why rose vanderboom exist? just Fandom account?

[lament sail]

(ALthough I think we should b hesitant with going places irl right now )

@fickle palm of course!

people like using names like that bc theyre fans.

[cinder pewter]

you never know which ones are the devs

[fickle palm]

hmmmm. Okay.

[cerulean junco]

Is it in the phase of going somewhere irl now? lol

[lament sail]

No.

im explicitly stating we're not there

[cinder pewter]

tbh there is no sign of arg yet, atm its like advent calender style but a bit complex

[lament sail]

ye ive been hesitant with calling it an ARG

to me its just a big ol puzzle lol

[fickle palm]

and some pic on official, why RL uploaded mr.crow before?

[cinder pewter]

u mean the intern one?

[lament sail]

privacy, very likely.

[fickle palm]

yes.

this one

[hallow acorn]

Thats not pandoosia's head?

[cinder pewter]

yea thats the intern one

[hallow acorn]

I was lied to

[cinder pewter]

bruh

[fickle palm]

some spicious marks there

[cinder pewter]

thats for the demo puzzle

[lament sail]

@fickle palm that, too, was used for the demo.

[stray thistle]

What secrets did the demo have?

[hallow acorn]

Just a secret code

That led to [REDACTED]

[cinder pewter]

some hidden symbols in the posts

and u can use them

[stray thistle]

For?

[lament sail]

it was for a contest.

[cinder pewter]

for something

yea and the contest kinda ended already

it ended on 28th of Oct I think?

[lament sail]

ye

[fickle palm]

almost that, it is too late in normal

[gritty sand]

Are there any strange personal accounts doing strange things under official information? Just like the daughter of the last dead man.

[fickle palm]

hoorn heh

it was past

[hallow acorn]

Id say it would be noticeable if so, they wouldnt drop clues without making sure ppl would find them

[desert python]

I think this make sense, there might be more hidden scroll

[cinder pewter]

perhaps the best idea is to wait a few hours for next stream (I think there will one)

[lament sail]

I need yalls input on htis one

these frames, theyre different ones aye?

a square and a rectangle.

thats such a small detail lmao

[hallow acorn]

Yep

[cinder pewter]

lmao

bruh

[cerulean junco]

so true

[cinder pewter]

thats super sussy

[fickle palm]

I did say yesterday, It feels Nonogram

[hallow acorn]

Stray just reminded me to go back to reading manga, will be back upon big news

[fickle palm]

change black cube and White cube, then there is pixel art some letter remains in my imagination

[hallow acorn]

We would need a clue on how to place each grid, plus x=cube to EVERY symbol, and so far the info is so scass that i prefer to focus on gathering scrolls than theorizing how endgame will be

[cinder pewter]

I am a walking manga reminder

[livid haven]

Were there such scrolls?

[lean zealot]

I just found my scrolls, I played with 2 devices so I have 4 scrolls in total.

[lament sail]

No I think those are both new!

[fickle palm]

there is good

[cinder pewter]

is the second one bee = cube

[lament sail]

ye looks like it.

[cinder pewter]

EVERYTHING IS A CUBE

[hallow acorn]

Am... am i a cube?

[cinder pewter]

E

[hallow acorn]

Ye the E is speening

[lean zealot]

These are from the future

[lament sail]

I think we have both of those

but thanks!

[fickle palm]

a remaining letter will be turned and twist in my thinking

[lean zealot]

These from the past

[lament sail]

is that E one new?

no its not

we've got both of those too! thanks.

[cinder pewter]

rip

[lament sail]

yep and the bee = cube too

also if we assume that the completed grids we got are 'templates' of items we need to collect together to make a new grid

this would be an issue right

assuming the lines are for boxing them in.

[near turret]

I found these two and hope it will be useful

[lament sail]

both we've collected! but thank you sdo much for sharing

mhm

[cinder pewter]

I kinda dont get what we are trying to get with pigpen cipher, a key word, or new pattern? because pigpen cipher is usually for sentences I guess?

[lament sail]

Yep

[cinder pewter]

emmmm, so we are trying to get matching letters?

[lament sail]

I dont know. lmao.

[cinder pewter]

now we are just seeing everything = cube

and form a grid

[lament sail]

I feel like hiyoko may have been onto something w/ the connections theyve made

but the lines being the same have me back at square 0 basically.

[cinder pewter]

I guess so?

imagine someone brutally forced the pad

[lament sail]

you're right. but someone pointed out that there'd have to be quite a few combinations its odd no one found them on accident.

[clever pagoda]

btw we now have 4 Es in total

[cinder pewter]

I guess some sort of premade condition need to be met before opening

[gritty sand]

Is it possible that different countries and regions or IP addresses correspond to fixed scroll information? Because my friends around me got the same scroll information as mine seems to be

[lament sail]

we've considered this yes

[cinder pewter]

or simply the devs havent updated the right combination yet, thats what they did with demo

[lament sail]

also fair^

[lament sail]

https://tenor.com/view/ea-sports-e-ea-meme-gif-14922519

[cinder pewter]

but that would be kinda lame

[clever pagoda]

lmaooooo

[lament sail]

on the one hand I think we should be allowed to solve it with the limited information we have in case we have a eureka moment

on the other im glad taht that would bar dataminers from ruining the fun for us.

[cinder pewter]

indeed

[lament sail]

that's also something i considered. I dont know how "online" tpw is

[clever pagoda]

Jamboard updated!

[lament sail]

ideally not at all considering we dont need to connect in game..

thanks keeping the hjamboard updated

ill also just keep dumping new scrolls into the document.

[gritty sand]

I think positioning can't be ruled out because it does have precedents. Of course, it's also possible to categorize the game by where you buy it.

[lament sail]

yes.

[clever pagoda]

yeah

[gritty sand]

The different platforms purchased may also be the criteria for classifying information.

[cinder pewter]

I think it could be but then it would be complicated separating each users by platforms

[gilded wing]

It looks like there are eight scrolls but only two have been found so far

[hallow acorn]

Can someone check if my guide for the scrolls is up on steam?

Not the discussion

[lament sail]

O you also tried to publish a guide

I thought steam didnt let u so I tried too

(ill pull mine if both are up <3)

@hallow acorn what did you classify it as and is it in English?

[hallow acorn]

Secrets and yeah, in english

Im trying to use my pc but my internet died

[lament sail]

not for me ;-;

[lament sail]

ye that;s mine.. that's up???

[gritty sand]

is this yours?

[lament sail]

o my ogd how did I beat parrot to the punch??

[hallow acorn]

Thats mine

[lament sail]

did you hack into my steam account? 👀

[hallow acorn]

Nope but LMAO WTF

Oh wait, its just way similar

[lament sail]

its bc my steam profile is awesome

[hallow acorn]

Mines not out

[lament sail]

is there a reason steam is telling you no??

[hallow acorn]

under revision

[lament sail]

but??

[hallow acorn]

Dunno

[lament sail]

like this is my first guide ever

kinda silly Steam just says yes to me

[hallow acorn]

Nah i just decided to pain myself and write it on my phone instead of the pc and it worked

But it takes sometime to be checked ig

[lament sail]

ill still just axe mine if urs comes up lemme know!

[gritty sand]

Gyakuten Saiban！

[lament sail]

u deserve the spotlight

[gritty sand]

in your space！

[lament sail]

haha yes!

im quite the fan

but either way I feel like we're drifting very heavily off the secret topic

[hallow acorn]

Oh someone just replied my entry about the scrolls in the forum!

[lament sail]

I also responded with my scrolls to your post in the steam disucssion parrot, in the hopes more people will follow suit -

ye that's me lol

I also had someone respond on my facebook post but no new scrolls yet

Rusty Lake, mental health and Fishing for scrolls

[hallow acorn]

Ill prolly delete mine since yours is up and has 🌟images🌟, if you need any help editing it and stuff just add me and we keep it organized

[lament sail]

o can I add you as a creator?

shoot me a steam FR! ill add you immediately omg

@whole canyon adding you too considering ur a RL mod lol

[hallow acorn]

But yeah, lets go back to cracking our heads with the clues

[lament sail]

@grim nexus @crystal pecan if you wanted to be added too lemme know! I know y'all usually stick to being offline though(?) so I understand if you wanna stay more private haha.

got you added @hallow acorn !

lets do this 🤝

[hallow acorn]

I cant believe the reason my guide wasnt up was bc the mobile version didnt feature a publish button

Holy moly

[lament sail]

WAIT WHAT

LMAOOOO

O my god that's so terrible im so sorry

[gritty sand]

Sure enough, mystery lovers like the same games😆😆

[hallow acorn]

Imma translate my shit so we have a portuguese version

[lament sail]

sounds cool!

[whole canyon]

Of course! Would be lovely

[lament sail]

lets gooo

[warm zealot]

gays it's okay to spoiler in this chat right? since everyone's finished the game?

[lament sail]

Yep!

[warm zealot]

guys*

[lament sail]

O its okay im very gay too:)

[warm zealot]

haha okay

[clever pagoda]

gaaaaaay

[lament sail]

but ye no drop anything you've got!

[warm zealot]

about the hidden scroll what have you guys discovered?

[lament sail]

we've discovered two hidden scrolls

and are currently working with roughly 80 unique scrolls

[karmic breach]

you can check out the pinned message

[warm zealot]

okay

[fast portal]

i wonder how many duplicates people have gotten

[lament sail]

I feel like im starting to see an uptick in dupes now

but im honestly not sure.

[honest slate]

finish the game but didnt get scroll 😦

[lament sail]

that's because you need to use some secret codes to get the scroll!

[honest slate]

yeah i will try it next time...

[uneven pagoda]

got an eagle here

[lament sail]

I believe that's already in our collection! thanks though 😄

[honest slate]

i think the o/0 in the doc is actually O

[lament sail]

ye im honestly very unsure atm

[lament sail]

we should still try to maybe chase the font to see if we can get something out of that haha.,

aha

ye that makes it an O for sure.

[fast portal]

thats the only letter we have right

except for e

[lament sail]

no we also haev a K a W a bunch of Es

an H too

cant believe we're revealing the new Kingdom Heeeeeearts title

wait theres no W in there nvm

[honest slate]

（btw this is the namecard on albert's coffin）

[lament sail]

haha ye I spotted that, thanks for clarifying though

[fast portal]

and there is a w in there

[clever pagoda]

Side comment, it seems the RL team is confident that there will be enough players posting the results so that we can solve the puzzle

[timber rapids]

new？

[clever pagoda]

awww new ones

[karmic breach]

你这个是新的

[honest slate]

ohh

[timber rapids]

ok

[karmic breach]

the new one

[timber rapids]

哈哈

[karmic breach]

放到google doc 上吧

[timber rapids]

okok

[clever pagoda]

I'll also update them to the jamboard

[lament sail]

wowa

two new ones

[fast portal]

where can i find the jamboard?

[karmic breach]

https://jamboard.google.com/d/1RnOCeNhItyPhXM-7MRK0so_0eyCGrq-pF-rwa7qJHTc/edit?usp=sharing

[fast portal]

thanks

[clever pagoda]

Jamboard updated

[warm zealot]

我去有中国人啊，请问一下这个秘密卷轴怎么发现啊？我看标注消息里写的是两个办法是吗？一个是输入albert出生年份还一个是输入一串符号就只有这两个办法能获得秘密卷轴是吗

[karmic breach]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2883500098

[clever pagoda]

对的，目前就这两个，可能还有

[warm zealot]

哦哦，那是每个人解锁的秘密卷轴都不一样是吗

[lament sail]

O thats a very good guide

[karmic breach]

不一定 会有重复的

[lament sail]

props to the author

[warm zealot]

牛哇 狠狠看了

[uneven pagoda]

不好说，应该是按照地区来的，我和附近的朋友开出来是一样的卷轴

[lament sail]

we dont know that for fact^ but maybe

[warm zealot]

原来如此，话说在这个软件打中文没事吧家人们😂

[lament sail]

well I do ask you to keep extended conversation in English

but if explaining hints and stuff is hard in English by all means

[karmic breach]

better use eng

[warm zealot]

roger that

[lament sail]

like if you could please! just to keep everyone connected yknow

[warm zealot]

I'll try my best!

so what's the difference between the bee version and butterfly version of the game?

[karmic breach]

just the differences of puzzles

and the tree at the ending

[lament sail]

yep

[warm zealot]

I see. Thank you guys replying😛 Very useful guide by @karmic breach

for replying*

[lament sail]

O dang thats urs? thats awesome

i didnt check the author lol >,<

[karmic breach]

actually , I'm the author of that guide too

😆

[warm zealot]

👏

[floral charm]

Oh.

[lament sail]

I also believe the gem you find in the soup is different

which imo is one of the more interesting aspects of it but I dunno why im so focused on that lol

[floral charm]

Cool

[timber rapids]

did anyone find this？

[floral charm]

I noticed the bee tree is m the one outside Dale's house in Birthday

[lament sail]

wowah old up

@timber rapids howd you get there??

is that a bug??

[timber rapids]

wait a minute

[karmic breach]

how to access that

[grim nexus]

OMG what is THAT

[clever pagoda]

?!what is this

[cinder pewter]

Where is 0092 come from

[final wedge]

what？

[tropic nest]

Dunno if anyone found these scrolls, so here's my

[lament sail]

if google lens is doing its job it mentions this still being the memory year/

[lapis whale]

bug？

[lament sail]

@tropic nest we have both of those im pretty sure! but thank you ❤️

[floral charm]

Or hidden menu, still unknown rn

[timber rapids]

我问下，有人会翻译吗，我表达的东西有点复杂

[karmic breach]

你发

[final wedge]

兄弟细说

[clever pagoda]

发

[uneven pagoda]

细说

[lament sail]

ye go ahead, thanks!

.. listen I want in on this.

[timber rapids]

输入年份

9999

在除了第一个9的随便一个数字

再摁一些上

我观察是两个99是一组的

生成的新符号代表-100

可以和其他位数减法运算

233有点难解释

不如说99可以进一位

你们可以自己试试然后总结

i'm sorry for my poor ENG

[floral charm]

It's fine

[lament sail]

no its quite alright

[atomic summit]

is that really what rl wants us to find...?

[clever pagoda]

maybe a bug

[atomic summit]

wondering

[honest slate]

any other people try?

[floral charm]

Still unsure if debug menu or intentional.

[clever pagoda]

你用的什么设备

[lament sail]

I have an inkling that this might be a bug

[final wedge]

bug？

[clever pagoda]

I'll test on my device right now.

[final wedge]

我的可以，但符号会重叠在一起

[cinder pewter]

Same feeling cause this is weird

[lament sail]

I can trigger it

but especially the numbers overlapping make me think this is a bug

[cinder pewter]

Use bug report channel and ask the team I guess

[karmic breach]

well, I consider that it is a bug

[clever pagoda]

yeah its a bug

I got this

[floral charm]

Idk, I can't do it

Unless I missed something

[cinder pewter]

That’s really broken lol

[final wedge]

lmao

[floral charm]

Yeah, bug

[cinder pewter]

Break the cubical device let’s goooo

[grim nexus]

Lets no 😅

[clever pagoda]

I think maybe it's because 9999 add to 10000 there is one more digit

[lament sail]

forwarded it to Bug reports

[clever pagoda]

so the number got overlapped

[lament sail]

Im inclined to agree with bactriana

[honest slate]

try change the second 9?

[karmic breach]

yep

[timber rapids]

ok, so we find a bug

lol

[honest slate]

lol

[lament sail]

I love this for us tbh

Rusty lake mental health and fishing for scrolls [NOW INCLUDES BUG EXTERIMNATION]

just a heads up if there is another stream today it should air in 16mins

[floral charm]

Yep, looks like an overflow error on the graphics handling.
They spaced for 4 characters, did not lock the value to be 9999 >= x >= 0000

[lament sail]

yee

[honest slate]

want to find a hint but end up a bug 😆

[hallow acorn]

Holy moly i get out for 10 mins and ppl start breaking the game smh smh

[cerulean junco]

lol so is just a bug?

[lament sail]

Confirmed bug!

yep

[cerulean junco]

lol

[floral charm]

Unintentionally, and if you mess about on the date screen at the top of F1, you'll find it lol

[timber rapids]

waste a night find a bug

sad

[lament sail]

haha I think finding a bug is fun!

but i understand wanting it to be more

[honest slate]

sad but fun 🙂

[clever pagoda]

still no sign of stream(

[atomic summit]

maybe once every two days?

[lament sail]

mhm maybe? but I think so far we've had one each day since launch

[sullen fjord]

did the past scroll from the symbols box now, i got this one

[lament sail]

Yooo

new

[hallow acorn]

Albert!

[clever pagoda]

awwwww

[lament sail]

Glückwunsch indeed

[karmic breach]

another new one

cool

[uneven pagoda]

gooooooood

[ripe ice]

Is this new

[lament sail]

we have both of those

but thank you for sharing!

[hallow acorn]

imagine getting 2 clues for the same symbol

Im envious

[lament sail]

wild right

LOL

[fickle palm]

oh. already broadcast is done?

[lament sail]

mfw RL not live at 1pm

[bitter holly]

1 minute late smh

[fickle palm]

er....sorry. here is south korea, how different the time?

[sullen fjord]

from how the two already unlocked scrolls are arranged in the achievement menu my guess is that there will be eight scrolls in total
but thats just my guess, not fact based

[lament sail]

its 1PM RL time

[fickle palm]

Okay

[lament sail]

were thinking the same thing @sullen fjord

[sullen fjord]

nice

[bitter holly]

it should be at 8pm there

but they're late

[hallow acorn]

So, anything on another social media?

[sullen fjord]

trying to keep up with all the chats like

[hallow acorn]

And either way, arent we 1 hour early?

[fickle palm]

okaaay..? was it over the time.

[lament sail]

Ive got no twitter or insta notifications atm

[bitter holly]

i think it was happening around this time yesterday so idk?

[crystal light]

I found these four scrolls

[lament sail]

pretty sure i noted the broadcast at 1pm CET

IS THAT A NEW 3x3??

[bitter holly]

omg those seem new

and numbers

[sullen fjord]

oh boy

[bitter holly]

this is pretty huge omg

[lament sail]

Jackpot

I think those are ALL new.

[fickle palm]

hmm here is not start today. isn't it?

[clever pagoda]

ahhhhhhhh

[bitter holly]

wait the mustache thing isn't it one of the acheivements in cec

[sullen fjord]

dang i should do the secret scrolls on my bfs game too

[clever pagoda]

all new!!

[hallow acorn]

And was this checked? https://youtu.be/ciHSSEQsQvk

[clever pagoda]

finally we have 6

[crystal light]

I also updated them to the google doc 🙂

[clever pagoda]

I'm updating the Jamboard

Albert's head is on

[cinder pewter]

AirPods = cube

[bitter holly]

8 minutes late... are we supposed to have a livestream today?

[lament sail]

guess maybe not

[rain mist]

I havent seen anyone share this one yet

[lament sail]

we have that one! thanks for sharing though

[rain mist]

No worries! 🙂

[bitter holly]

91 scrolls + deer skull omg @@@

[nocturne flicker]

Maybe its sudoku?🤣

[bitter holly]

so many scrolls

[clever pagoda]

updated

[lament sail]

omg you turned the vase around?! lol

[ancient shore]

Anyone know why the clock one is a golden color?

[clever pagoda]

that's a photo not a screenshot

[lament sail]

this^

[lament sail]

I dont think we should be looking at the new game just yet

unless..

[night oriole]

What does this photo mean？

[bitter holly]

this is way too much info there has to be a thing that can link all of these but wth can it be 😭

[lament sail]

its a teaser for the new game @night oriole

[clever pagoda]

so we've got Albert's head, hand, ear, tooth, eye

[lament sail]

you could argue the bottles contain blood.

dropping the patch nots here

dont think they containin anything but LMAO

[whole canyon]

I came back from gaming to see a patch released
cracks knuckles

[night oriole]

Did anyone find this？

[hallow acorn]

Seems new

[karmic breach]

seems new

you can post it on google doc

[lament sail]

Ill paste it to the doc 07

[balmy yew]

Is the game updated? Is the content updated or something else?

[karmic breach]

bug fixes

[lament sail]

but they couldve sneaked something new in there

[fickle palm]

Well...time to diging again today. Heh

For example, some trigger added...?

[hallow acorn]

I would wait for 30 more minutes to see if theyll pull up a stream but ik theyre waiting for me to sleep so i lose the live

Either way, gm

[lament sail]

Ye i was about to ask Parrot

like had u slept at all

lol

[hallow acorn]

Yeah i took a good nap after dinner and ended up spending the night reading, but now its backfiring

[lament sail]

ahh makes sense lol

take care!!

[hallow acorn]

Gonna rest so i can pull up a stream myself later today 👀

[fickle palm]

Anyway, mobile version updated 300mb more..!

What is in...?

[clever pagoda]

…just realized that two 9s, one is actually upside down 6

[lament sail]

the rotations are so confusing ;-;

[clever pagoda]

???300mb

[cinder pewter]

Sus

[lament sail]

thats like the entire game lol

[fickle palm]

Yes. So sus.

[night oriole]

Is this new？

[cinder pewter]

The original game size is less than 300 mb

[lament sail]

that looks new??

[timber rapids]

new

[unreal chasm]

Is this the new password?

[lament sail]

I think we have that one.

[karmic breach]

already got that

[fickle palm]

there can be new ending and something add some trigger in my imagination

[unreal chasm]

Sad, I'm still too slow to find out

[fair oriole]

wassup everybody!

[lament sail]

[fair oriole]

any new progress?

[lament sail]

bunch of new scrolls

[fair oriole]

as usual

[lament sail]

but truth be told i personally staked a lot on a new stream and potentially new scrolls but alas nothing has come out of RL yet so now im feeling kinda lost haha

[karmic breach]

anyone who ever tried to get new scrolls?

i mean delete ur save file and enter the game again

[fair oriole]

look at the bright side, if they don't post anything anymore it means that we have all we need to find the answers

[lament sail]

Im not going to bruteforce anything personally

[lament sail]

this doesnt work.

[karmic breach]

you can get a new scroll

that works

[lament sail]

you must be talking about a clean install / wiping game files

[karmic breach]

I just turned off the steam cloud

[lament sail]

I see

that seems like it would defeat the point of the community puzzle.

[fair oriole]

true

[lament sail]

Id ask you to not share any scrolls you obtain with this method.

[karmic breach]

you're right

[fickle palm]

But I will enjoy the game, not the brute way

[karmic breach]

what we need is the cooperation around the world

[lament sail]

Indeed

[fickle palm]

Anyway where is new hint...?

[lament sail]

we havent found a new hint yet.

[slim vale]

Has anyone started thinking about the scrolls we already have?

[fair oriole]

yep, we have all the progress we've made in a google doc in the pinned messages

[fickle palm]

I know, I make the checklist today about 'What I try today on the past within'

[lament sail]

ye currently we have the completed grid is groupings of items we need to collect with the lines and the white and black cubes are patterns for a 3x3 grid code.

[fickle palm]

1. Matchbox's pic button pressing after update

2. Setting up the clock 2:00

3. There will be blood

[lament sail]

haha lets hope none of us have to bleed for this:)

[autumn cobalt]

omg i don't even notice there's scroll in the game

[lament sail]

theres two atm!

[fickle palm]

In additional, i imagine before about the past within will be great alike paradox when I did watch old trailer one.

[lament sail]

if you find em be sure to share them with us

[fickle palm]

Real albert grab the black cube trailer.

[lament sail]

o mhm i guess we havent used that.

[forest pendant]

is this new?

[pine isle]

futher

[lament sail]

lets see

that sun is new

[forest pendant]

woha!!!!!

yessssss!!

[lament sail]

and the hand I think too.

[grim nexus]

Ooo new scrolls 🥰

Thank you all for sharing!

[cursive wren]

the sun is a new one yes!

[fast portal]

the sun is on the chalkboard

[digital swan]

?? what I do here?

[lament sail]

ah this is the demo, your partner in the future should have an answer for you @digital swan

[digital swan]

Oh I hadn't understood that part, so the game is for two players? I do not understand English well

[fickle palm]

Yes

Demo and main game separated

[slim vale]

是双人游戏

[fickle palm]

Two mode.

[digital swan]

I understand

[fickle palm]

I wander about what will happen now bee mode and butterfly mode coop after update.

[nocturne flicker]

Sun???? O my god

[cerulean junco]

My friend opens a new shared canvas for updating new symbols (but unfortunately we dont have the Past/Future information), or you can just use it as a better layout thing to look up whatever you need :>

looks like this

https://magma.com/d/oLLEFJjqT6

[karmic breach]

wow great！

[nocturne flicker]

Very good) i love it

[lament sail]

O hey this is neat.

[cerulean junco]

but pls dont ruin the layout!

[clever pagoda]

！！

[cerulean junco]

actually i havent used this website before, if you find anything going wrong pls let me know

[night oriole]

omg

[floral charm]

Nice!!

[lament sail]

ye no we have a jamboard too

but those slides r kinda small

this is my personal PS canvas lol

[cerulean junco]

i understand that we have a jamboard but its not friendly to our chinese friends who cannot access google

[lament sail]

Oop didnt even think about that

[cerulean junco]

and we are trying to make thing more organized

[lament sail]

ye maybe we should stick to the magma then! dang

although I think its fine to have multiple options too just have all the links in here.

[cerulean junco]

maybe just using this as a tool to look up stuffs will also be fine

[floral charm]

Setting aside firewalls, I think the Jamboard is a good general "mess around" space while the magma is a more organized library

[lament sail]

Im okay with that as a concept sure

again; Ill keep feeding the doc with all the scrolls too

(and potential information if a new stream image clue whatever drops)

[clever pagoda]

I think we can keep a copy of the current magma page and edit on a new copy

[floral charm]

That makes sense.

[cerulean junco]

we have kept one

no worries

[solemn spade]

Does anyone know how to solve the achievement Victor (with the piano key)?

[lament sail]

@solemn spade play the piano a bunch

[cerulean junco]

we will try to backup the magma page as we remember this thing

[karmic breach]

just keep playing it

[clever pagoda]

maybe pin the magma page?

[fickle palm]

Anyway my wishlist was useless today

[bitter holly]

looking at this i saw 2 9s on 2 different 9-symbol scrolls with different positions too

hmmm

[fickle palm]

Anyway 02481 and 02715's meaning is what...

[lament sail]

@clever pagoda hold up.

[clever pagoda]

👀

[lament sail]

edited the pinned message i shared.

[floral charm]

Ah

[pine isle]

in the 2 chapter in past have something with black and white colоrs?

[lament sail]

now has my google doc, the jamboard and magma board

@pine isle Dont know.

[cerulean junco]

thank you!

[clever pagoda]

just bruteforced the 3x3 grid in future 2, still nothing happened

[lament sail]

good, lol.

[floral charm]

Ha!

[solemn spade]

does anyone know about the achievement "catch me if you can", I see the butterfly but can't catch it

[lament sail]

You can't catch it that's the point

[fair oriole]

flawless

[lament sail]

In part one past release the butterfly from the painting, chase it away from the vase, then when the vase shatters check the lanterm above the clock

[clever pagoda]

omg that hurts

[fast portal]

i feel like it might be a combination of the 3x3 and the chalkboard

[lament sail]

Ye the chalkboard seems fair

Bc that even has a scroll

But how.

[pine isle]

Maybe need represent symbols in cubes 3x3 at the immage with color cubes with an equal sign and write results in gird at future 2?

[karmic breach]

click the butterfly on the painting and check the flower in the vase after the vase is broken, check the lamp above the clock

[outer pasture]

I believe those can make few puzzles, I mean some of they even have frame already

[fast portal]

yeah but how

[fickle palm]

Wait.

[glacial island]

Is there a live broadcast tonight？

[clever pagoda]

it seems the RL team is busy with fixing bugs so that we have no livestream today

[fickle palm]

I found where use in

[clever pagoda]

not sure

[fickle palm]

Already known?

[lament sail]

The top; the demo

The bottom; unsure, feels like just a teaser

[fickle palm]

Okay it was founded top of right.

And there is marks on demo

[bitter holly]

yeah the top is for the secret ending of the demo

[fickle palm]

But it already founded.

Then two hidden ending on lite.

Is it correct?

[lament sail]

Yes

[fickle palm]

Okay. Pls forget that.

[forest pendant]

is it a new one too?

[night oriole]

yeahhhh

seems new

[forest pendant]

good！

[glacial island]

good！

[zealous stag]

just found out that the side matches an older one

[outer pasture]

Oh shit

Nice

[forest pendant]

woa

[zealous stag]

the maze theory might work

[floral charm]

Huge grid?

[zealous stag]

maybe 7*7

[night oriole]

omg

[sly imp]

HUGE

[forest pendant]

seems like it's a milestone?

[grim nexus]

I can try updating what I was trying to do w the maze 😅😅😅

[zealous stag]

but dunno how these work

[sly imp]

You can try rotating some grids!

So they match

[night oriole]

I think it's far from being gathered

just try and wait

[zealous stag]

just realized that the one on bottom is a rectangle and the one on top is square

so yeah it's likely an alternative maze

[lone fjord]

though that only works if the different rotations of the E are different symbols

[clever pagoda]

so maybe the 3x3 grids are pieces to form a larger board like the blackboard

[lone fjord]

otherwise there is a contradiction

considering the fact that there have been scrolls with two different E rotations they probably are different

[zealous stag]

I do think this is true just like all the different orientations of the hammer

where one of them is a mirrored image and cannot be rotated to become the others

[grim nexus]

I think they are

[cinder pewter]

This is something

Huge mazeeee

Hype

[grim nexus]

Though technically with overlapping parts maze-grid could consist of 9 3x3’s

[cerulean junco]

amazing bro

[timber rapids]

9 in the middle？

[night oriole]

omg

[fickle palm]

great job...!

[sly imp]

Moon also connects

[night oriole]

maybe you are right！

[fickle palm]

it is beautiful...!

[outer pasture]

But the E, I’m still confused

[timber rapids]

oh right

[floral charm]

That may come later

[night oriole]

but how abour that E

[zealous stag]

this rn still holds since it's no bigger than 7*7

[cerulean junco]

does the orientation matter?

[floral charm]

Dunno yet

[zealous stag]

but the other issue is even if this corresponds to a maze, what are we supposed to do with it

[lone fjord]

anyone else not able to move things in the magma drawing

[night oriole]

we need more information

[sly imp]

Honestly i don't think it's a maze

[clever pagoda]

thats not 9 thats 9 and 6

[floral charm]

How do you know?

[grim nexus]

If we have like some scrolls mentioning object = cube and we set it all as a maze we might see the path to go

[floral charm]

Could this be for the demo maze?

[karmic breach]

agreed since the fonts are different

[cinder pewter]

The only maze I remember was the one for flesh

[zealous stag]

nah I think it could be that one of them is a reversed "e"

[cinder pewter]

Chapter 2

[fickle palm]

I think it is not...that was 5x5

i did draw that before

[floral charm]

Ah

[zealous stag]

but there's no way it's a 6 placed upside down

[lone fjord]

at least in the magma drawing it just looks to me like one of them is lower res rather than different font

cause the other images in that 3 by 3 are also lower res

[clever pagoda]

try turn the 6 upside down and compare with 9

[lone fjord]

wait now that im looking at it i think it is different, but also not 6 either

[lament sail]

That overlap is a smart catch

But ye the rotation..

[boreal flax]

Hold up was my theory right 👀

The overlapping symbols would fit perfectly with the 7x7 maze

[lament sail]

Would we be short grids though?

[grim nexus]

kinda

[floral charm]

We don't have everything yet

[karmic breach]

sry to interrupt ,are these 2 new? My friend sent me her scrolls

[glacial island]

but the 9 is not sure

[nocturne flicker]

@grim nexus 👍

[glacial island]

it looks like different

[lament sail]

Hey darn

Looks like my deer skull theory is wrong

Those are both new yes

[lean jackal]

these 9s are different, i don't think we should stuck them together. the position is important, as we have a lot of Es

[lament sail]

Yes I do agree with this statement ^

Or well

[forest pendant]

mirrored “e”？

[lament sail]

I agree that rhe symbol is different, distinct

[forest pendant]

this “9”

[lament sail]

But the overlapping is a cool new possibility

[lone fjord]

yeah, we have a higher res version of the low res 9 and it has a sharp turn at the loop and the lower part curves up, but the other 9 has a smooth turn and no curve up. as a few other people have said, its probably a mirrored lowercase e

[outer pasture]

Guys Could they be some sort of code? Use in the 3*3 machine

[lean jackal]

it can be a little bit different skull, as we have two paintings or bottles

[lone fjord]

so we have two overlaps so far but they arent connected

[outer pasture]

Like in this one

[glacial island]

9 and a mirrored letter e？

[unreal chasm]

Based on existing clues

[boreal flax]

Welp guys I gotta survive an exam and spend the rest of the day on this arg, wish me luck lol

[lament sail]

Goodluck 07

[forest pendant]

good luck！

[glacial island]

good luck

[timber rapids]

good luck！！！

[lone fjord]

good luck

[unreal chasm]

good luck！！！

[nocturne flicker]

Good luck

[outer pasture]

U see, with enough information we can group a set of code

[pine isle]

good luck

[gentle fox]

good luck

[distant gull]

well i have exam in 5hrs too and i havent slept yet

[lament sail]

Ye this is still fair

[lone fjord]

it is possible that the squares and the lines are different codes

[glacial island]

we need more information

[lone fjord]

but with the same template

[lament sail]

Okay maybe maybe

Could the lines spell out a letter if we overlay it over the grids?

[lone fjord]

maybe but i think our best bet is to wait for another livestream or other scroll hint

[lean jackal]

i think these grids let us know which symbols we should group, lines tell us its place and cubes tell us should we press it on pad or not

[lament sail]

There's an issue with this^ the deer skull grid would have q double

But I agree it's agood theory.

[distant gull]

is it possible to hide this so the picture can be bigger on my screen

[lone fjord]

click the icon in the bottom left

the one that looks kinda like a film strip

[distant gull]

oh nice

[cerulean junco]

press "tab"

[lone fjord]

oh cool

[final wedge]

hey,guys what do these numbers mean

the past and future and main menu are different

[lament sail]

It's the game version

[unreal chasm]

Is it just the game version ?

[timber rapids]

good night everyone, hope more scrolls will be found tomorrow!

[lament sail]

See ya quest 0/

[night oriole]

good night

[nocturne flicker]

@timber rapids good night

[unreal chasm]

good night

[harsh raptor]

But it's maybe really useful numbers. Maybe we can't find another scrolls because there are no ones now. And new version = new scrolls

[balmy yew]

Have you tried on these two clocks

[final wedge]

idk,the past last two number is 42,future is 25,main menu is 22

[stray thistle]

Would that clock actually be a clue?

[unreal chasm]

Let me try it, is it in the bottom left corner of the game?

[stray thistle]

How easy is it to set it to a certain time?

[lament sail]

It wouldn't be the hardest to get to the clock in the past.

[night oriole]

I tried nothing happen

[stray thistle]

No i mean the physical clock

The times would have to already be in the game right?

[lament sail]

You can just wind it with a key or move the hands

Not really a big deal either

[stray thistle]

So how easy/hard is it to get the physical clock to match?

[fair oriole]

something new?

[lament sail]

Not quite

[fair oriole]

can i help?

[lament sail]

Dunno!

Got any theories?

[outer pasture]

Anything?

[frank heart]

Yes, i think this is qr code

[unreal chasm]

However, it is really a simple version number, everyone is the same

[lament sail]

No it's probably just a teaser

[lament sail]

Fascinating concept you might be onto something

[balmy yew]

@outer pastureWhere are you find the picture

[lament sail]

But what about the lines?

@balmy yew it's on the rl socials.

[karmic breach]

that makes sense

[sly imp]

That seems really probable in my head

[outer pasture]

Weibo

[frank heart]

Yes, I've thought about it, but I haven't had time to write yet

[lament sail]

Weibo doesn't really help me lol if anyone's on weibo could they share any cool information??

[sly imp]

Because 3 by 3 has been bruteforced and it didn't work, and for the maze you'd need a new arrow combination

[frank heart]

But if this is the case, then it is necessary, a lot of parts

[floral charm]

You know the ringed squares for a qr code? That might be for them.

[lament sail]

Mhm

[balmy yew]

But what does the clock represent in the game, a place to input time in the future

[unreal chasm]

我超，微博的预告片我都还没来的及看，让我看看去

[karmic breach]

没有区别

[outer pasture]

那個我看了，好像沒什麼惹

[balmy yew]

The clock is a constant element in the rust lake, and I think it must have something to do with it

[unreal chasm]

那就算了）微博不喜欢用，广告太多了

[frank heart]

ringed squares ?

[outer pasture]

Instagram the best

[unreal chasm]

But it is too troublesome to use vpn every time, which is sad.

[sly imp]

Like corners

[outer pasture]

I don’t need vpn lol

[floral charm]

The highline bit

[night oriole]

？ what is this

[frank heart]

or this not qr code, this binary code

[floral charm]

Wdym? The qr code or...?

[frank heart]

Where did you see this ?

[floral charm]

That's me speculating on what we have, idk for sure

[night oriole]

這個只是給中國玩家的信吧 應該和解密沒關係？

[karmic breach]

应该是没有联系的

[night oriole]

code

[glacial island]

对，但是图片之前推特好像发过，我没有找到

[lament sail]

Just an example seemingly haha

[floral charm]

That one I typed for memory
It redirects to a rickroll

Well, typed into the generator

[unreal chasm]

说实话在道歉信里塞这个完全无关的照片，我还以为是下一作的预告

[balmy yew]

Remember the Christmas 2021 puzzle

[cerulean junco]

June 29th

[frank heart]

https://tenor.com/view/rickroll-roll-rick-never-gonna-give-you-up-never-gonna-gif-22954713

[floral charm]

Yep

[balmy yew]

I think there are still some pictures that haven't been solved

[lament sail]

Nah pretty sure that's solved lol

[glacial island]

确实是预告，我猜是中国这边之前没有发过这个图所以这次一起发了

[lament sail]

We even reused the tpw trailer books

[night oriole]

我一開始還以為那個圖片是什麼和解密有關的東西

[floral charm]

Was this not the intended use?

[cerulean junco]

lol i think not relevant

[lament sail]

The books have been used twice now@floral charm

[floral charm]

Ah

[unreal chasm]

毕竟这边有墙，其他语言的都是discord，只有中国是微博，那只要微博和推特都发的应该就是重点内容了，好像中国这边的解密都是单独的

[glacial island]

that's it

[lament sail]

Which I'm actually kinda happy about lmao

[unreal chasm]

锈湖好用心啊）

[lament sail]

Cuss the books just used in the calendar kinda hurt

[balmy yew]

I think the diary is definitely useful, but it's not enough

@unreal chasm尽量说英文吧

[unreal chasm]

sorry, suddenly forgot

[stray thistle]

By cuss do you mean because?
Because cuss means cursing

[lament sail]

Because*

Lmao

Sorry

[outer pasture]

I noticed that every time they post, if there is a clock, it always stops at 2 o'clock

[lament sail]

Ye RL loves 2oclock lmaoo

[outer pasture]

Is they me being overthinking or it’s really sth

[glacial island]

https://twitter.com/rustylakecom/status/1542116022387458048?s=33

Rusty Lake 🚣‍♂️ The Past Within (@rustylakecom)

Sometimes a train is delayed, but then another one arrives on time 🚇 🌸

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[balmy yew]

I would like to ask you how these scrolls were solved and where they were solved

[lament sail]

@balmy yew where-> here

[floral charm]

And also pins

[lament sail]

How? Livestreams on the rusty lake YouTube

[balmy yew]

If you type in the year of birth on one scroll, what about the others? How do you get them

Is it just the date and the password to the box

[lament sail]

Yes at the moment.

[stray thistle]

You can only get two scrolls right now

[cerulean junco]

just invalid

[hollow lake]

How do you get the scrolls?

[balmy yew]

Everyone gets a different scroll the same way, right?

[cerulean junco]

go to the pinned google doc

[stray thistle]

Yes

It's random i assume

[lament sail]

Yed.

Yes**

[cerulean junco]

future: live stream 1 -> Year of birth -> Albert's year
past: live stream 2 -> books and symbols -> squares as the order

[glacial island]

people the same country maybe get the same

[balmy yew]

Oh my God.

[lament sail]

I don't really buy that right now

But it could be the case

[balmy yew]

Looks like someone found something new in the game trailer?

[lament sail]

Owh?

[sly imp]

What did they find?

[balmy yew]

I just heard about it

[lament sail]

Is it the spectrogram because we have that

Anyway share with the class! Haha

[balmy yew]

It looks like this one

[karmic breach]

not likely, we got many different scrolls from CN players

[hollow lake]

Where's the document?

[opal trench]

Hey, guys just got my piece of hint. Don't know if it will help.

[lament sail]

In the pinned messages

[lament sail]

That's from the demo, nothing new.

[karmic breach]

already had, still thx

[cerulean junco]

pinned

[opal trench]

np

[hollow lake]

Oh yeah, thanks!

[balmy yew]

I don't think it's new either, but someone said there was something in the box on the top right

[unreal chasm]

Speaking of which, the demo is almost completely different from the official version. Will there be clues in the demo?

[glacial island]

I and my friends get the same，maybe we are in same city

[night oriole]

Think of it this way？

[lament sail]

Probably not the demo has its own Secrets already

[karmic breach]

maybe you can get different scrolls in different time zones

[glacial island]

you are right

[unreal chasm]

My friend and I were in different cities in China and got completely different things.

[lament sail]

I don't think we should be too concerned about where the Scrolls come from for now to be honest

[karmic breach]

agreed

[lament sail]

It seems like a fruitless discussion that won't get us anymore at the moment

[balmy yew]

We also think there are some clues in the demo

[lament sail]

We just risk doxxing ourselves

I have completely written off the demo as useful but if you find anything by all means share

[floral charm]

2 copies, same time zone, different platforms, different scrolls

[balmy yew]

I found that the same game mode in different regions, some details of the game would be different, such as the blood machine

[glacial island]

We don't know how many scrolls are not found

[floral charm]

True

[lament sail]

This is a more interesting focus point yes:)

[night oriole]

I think there are still quite a few that have not been found

[lament sail]

Agreed.

[balmy yew]

I think there might be something the authorities haven't sent

[night oriole]

yeah

[balmy yew]

It's like a quadrangle on live TV

[night oriole]

maybe they just dont want us finish this so fast

[kindred oriole]

I don't know if it helps

[glacial island]

no live broadcast today，I’m boring😭

[night oriole]

already found

[cerulean junco]

haha so they just dont open the livestream at the time

[balmy yew]

This was found，but thank you

[kindred oriole]

sorry thanks

[lament sail]

Nah don't be sorry!

Thanks for jumping in really

[night oriole]

When did the official do things on time？

[balmy yew]

Someone tried to clear all the progress and pick up the clues again. Will there be different clues

[lament sail]

Apparently if you properly wipe yes

But honestly I'd like to ask you all to not do that.

Let's try to solve this the intended way as a community:)

[sly imp]

I'm sorry for the initial bruteforcing btw, i honestly didn't expect something to happen

[lament sail]

No it's fine

That's like a genuinely very minor thing

[floral charm]

It's cool and a logical thing to check

[lament sail]

It's just that if one person "generates" all the scrolls

We lose a big community aspect of this

[sly imp]

Yea i agree

[cerulean junco]

thats true

[boreal flax]

remember when we bruteforced the secret elevator in the white door and the devs weren't even ready for it

[lean jackal]

previously i said that lines can be like positions, but as you can see, two symbols with the same line can't be at the same position. so just let you know😅

[lament sail]

I think they've learned from that.

[balmy yew]

I think so. I'm just curious haha

[amber stirrup]

can anyone share information about white cube?

[lament sail]

@amber stirrup mhm?

[glacial island]

i remember the DOGS

[lament sail]

Yes this is an issue

[night oriole]

？what

[amber stirrup]

i found chalk=white cube, and key=white cube