#What European universities would you recommend for a graphics-centered master's degree?

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median turret
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Hi everyone :)

A straightforward title if there ever was one, but I wanted to ask here if anyone has any suggestions on unis in Europe that are known for their good computer graphics / visual computing master's programs? I have a preliminary list that I want to start applying to (completed a Bachelor's degree in computer science and have a couple of years of work experience in rendering different material models). My only limiting factors I guess currently are tuition fees and moving opportunity (in a non-EU country) as sadly some options' visa requirements are extremely strict.

The current list I have is: Uni Bonn, TU Wien, Saarland University, Karlsruhe Institute of Technology, Uni Freiburg. I know there are others like Leuven, TU Delft, TUM, ETH, but these are sadly very outside of my budget.

Would you happen to have any other recommendations for unis that would fit into these categories? I've happened on these through searching on Reddit and generally from stalking conferences. I also understand that a graphics centered degree is somewhat of a rarity, but what I mean mostly is a degree program that has multiple graphics subjects and professors in the field.

Thank you for even reading this far frogeheart

torn geode
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BUas?

median turret
# torn geode BUas?

Hm I looked at BUas but it has only this Master of Game Technology program, which I think is a bit more applied than the theory I feel like I'm missing personally, and the field I want to advance in. But it does seem like a good programme

open ingot
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TU Wien is a good one

median turret
lime mulch
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TU Wien is very good yeah, KIT also

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it really depends on what you wanna do, for rendering PBR i think the best maybe EPFL with the realistic rendering lab

median turret
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To be honest just focusing on graphics in general, either real-time or offline rendering techniques, analytic or neural materials, etc. So pretty broad requirements from my side, as I can't really be picky. My biggest missing piece in my knowledge is my higher level math knowledge, which I run into like a brick wall time and time again during my work. So I guess most master's programs cover that missing math knowledge. EPFL sounds amazing, but it's expensive for a non-EU if the numbers from the quick search I did are correct (~2200 CHF per semester)

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Although I do love the work that I do currently, which is mostly conversion between different "standard" material models like UE Substrate, OpenPBR, Blender's material model, etc. But I would love to also learn more about different domains before just picking a domain to specialize in (as material models were the thing that I could readily find a job for, not inherently what I would've loved to start off with if I had the choice).

final pumice
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EPFL sounds amazing,
If you speak French, the ID3D Master’s program at UCBL1 is a good choice too.

median turret
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Hm sadly I don't know French at all froge_sad

strange sail
median turret
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Thank you for the recommendation! The program looks good, although it is a bit too expensive for me currently. I might apply regardless and see scholarship opportunities :)

rocky plinth
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Maybe EPFL is also a good choice?

lime mulch
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EPFL is good

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most of deadline cloing soon

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recommand to aim for KIT or TU Wien they are big on rendering

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Bonn uni is good, most uni in germany are great actual for rendering. France you will need to speak french.

best best for you if you need english Delft is the best, Breda also is pretty good.

median turret
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Yep EPFL looks to be a great option, but yeah as I mentioned it's pretty expensive when compared to the other options. I will apply for scholarships of course but the chance of getting any of them is pretty slim I think.

median turret
median turret
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floral scaffold
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For Sweden both Linköping and Chalmers are pretty good when it comes to graphics and rendering, might be worth checking out.

lethal pelican
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Be aware that if you're interested in TU Wien, the Austrian visa process involves some pretty inconvenient timelines if you're outside of the EU and it may take longer than you might expect.

median turret
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At least the way I understand this...

lethal pelican
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Yeah, that sounds about right. If you're doing it that way, make sure you get your appointment as close to entry as possible because to my understanding they're pretty slow in Vienna and while they try to get you sorted out within 90 days there are no guarantees.

median turret
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Yep, thanks for the tip 🙏 💚

strange sail
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@median turret oh hey another really cheap english masters from polytechnique is IGD

median turret
vale schooner
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They have a lot of overlap, I recommend the "Extended Cinematography" one because it is free and you even get a monthly salary, since you work part time in a partner company

strange sail
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wait I have a feeling we've already talked about this masters lol @vale schooner

vale schooner
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Yea we talked about IGD before !
I did start it, it's great but sometimes a bit messy, since it's the first year it opens

median turret
granite robin
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I'm in the last week of my bachelor's thesis at the computer graphics chair of the Friedrich Alexander University Erlangen-Nürnberg.

For anything other than computer science it's pretty meh but computer science is getting all the funding. The computer graphics chair has a bunch of cool lectures and in the thesis seminar there's lots of people working on cool computer graphics things. Last I was there somebody held their presentation about their master's thesis: DirectX work graphs vs traditional path tracing

median turret
rugged mist
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I've been briefly to TUGraz in austria and they have a bunch of rendering and CG nice courses (but not always easy)

median turret
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Update: I've just finished my german scholarship application and if I get it it would make most sense to pursue it in germany. But I'm still applying to other places as well

lime mulch
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are you applying to bachelor or master

median turret
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Master's program

echo thunder
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median turret
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Yes I can confirm there's a stark difference between EU and non-EU tuition prices across Europe, with the exception of Germany from what I've seen. It's sadly a giant filter for anyone :/ but it is what it is

echo thunder
median turret
echo badger
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These ary my recommendations, They all have a solid graphics department.
I'am currently enrolled in Charles and so far i really enjoy it here.

Saarland - Germany
Tu Wien - Austria
Charles University - Czech republic
EPFL - Switserland

median turret
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I just found out about charles, thank you 🙏

lime mulch
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Ok but Charles uni deadline is past

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And you have a entrance exam

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Czech uni are pretty hard to get uni, but they are very very good

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Look at CTUV also

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I am almost going a PhD over there

open ingot
lime mulch
# open ingot Under whom?

cant say much because i am wait on the decision but maybe jiri filip if they accept me, it will be for material rendering and perception

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so no officially at a CG lab but still

open ingot
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Hmm I see I see

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good luck!

median turret
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Maybe you were looking at the phd application dates?

echo badger
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# floral scaffold For Sweden both Linköping and Chalmers are pretty good when it comes to graphics...

I would second LiU and Chalmers if Sweden is doable.

I'm currently taking my masters at LiU. It's split over 2 cities, with the graphics courses in Norrköping and the rest in Linköping.

The Norrköping campus has good graphics courses with pretty open-ended projects thanks to their swedish civil-engineer media tech track.
Specifically Mark E. Dieckmann's courses focus a lot on the math behind whatever the course covers, theyre tough but really good.

The uni has pretty strong industry connections too.

median turret
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Sadly as Saswat above mentioned, a lot of these options are gated with extremely high prices for non-EU peeps like me :/ But I'm very glad to hear great praise from your side 💚 💚

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I will keep these on the radar :)

median turret
echo badger
median turret
echo badger
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They changed some stuff recently

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Just dm me if you want more info

median turret
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Sure! Thank you 💚

echo thunder
echo badger
# echo thunder What are the chances of getting jobs and stuff? How's academia in Czechia?

i Don't really think i can answer that, i've only been there for half a year. But some papers that came from Charles are really really really good they have pushed path guiding a lot in the past. Now its more things about spectral rendering / uplifting, and realistic 3D printing in color, that uses monte carlo rendering to improve it as far as i know, But again i've only been there for a few months so i don't really have a clue yet.

open ingot
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You can also get cooperation with ČVUT who do rt research (A bunch of stuff around acceleration structure building etc...)

lime mulch
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vale schooner
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I'm not sure if it's taught in English, the master itself seems decent

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If you are looking to study in France, you can't go wrong with these 3:
https://www.ip-paris.fr/education/masters/mention-informatique/majeure-interaction-graphique-et-design-igd
https://programmes.polytechnique.edu/master/parcours/science-technology-in-extended-cinematography-excin
http://master-info.univ-lyon1.fr/ID3D/

Teachers are very talented, and there are great internship opportunities in research and industry, especially in the second one (EXcin).

Institut Polytechnique de Paris
Majeure - Interaction, Graphique et Design (IGD)

Programme Informatique

Master 2 informatique : Image Développement et Technologie 3D - Un...

Le département informatique de l'Université Claude Bernard Lyon 1 propose un master spécialisé en image. Ce master a pour objectif de former des informaticiens au métier d'ingénieur dans le domaine de l'image et de la modélisation 3D. Une des particularités importantes de cette formation est de traiter simultanément de l&...

sturdy quest
vale schooner
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Haha

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I know because I'm enrolled in the first two 🙂

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They are from the same institution which is number one in France, so it's a good choice if you are after employability

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And of course classes are interesting. You will have teachers like Tamy Boubekeur (head of Adobe research in France) and Samuel Boivin, who founded "ncam", later aquired by Zeiss

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A lot of the staff publishes on Siggraph etc so good research opportunities also ! If that is your thing

austere rampart
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I am trying to apply for Bonn Masters on my 2nd attempt this summer. So if you have any success, please let me know

median turret
lime mulch
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bonn research lab for computer graphics is insane

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they have connection with netflix eyeline studio because of the ligthstage they have

echo thunder
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Can't believe there's a chance that 3 people from this thread may go to the same uni for graphics lol

austere rampart
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The deadline is tomorrow for summer applications.

median turret
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Read through it and do every optional thing they recommend

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I'm aiming for the winter semester

echo thunder
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austere rampart
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ah, I think it's for German/EU residents only anyway

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My application failed last year... so I am doubtful

lime mulch
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because in germany if you want to work in the lab you need a research project (at least for post graduate)

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and the can tell you what they are working one

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I applied for a phd no funding so i got canceled lol

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go accepted a Inria graph deco so it is fine, while work on neural rendering in the end

echo thunder
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Do you know French?*

vale schooner
echo thunder
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Is anyone here trying Chinese universities?

echo thunder
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So when do winter deadliens end? I feel like english tests aren't that hard for me to pass, so I wanna do it really quick but they're pretty expensive

cold rune
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I have a doubt regarding tu wein admission do we get our documents apostilled before sending them or is it something we can before enrolling to the university

lime mulch
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Not the question here tho

echo thunder
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Anyone have any updates on which unis have opened up their winter semesters' admissions?

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/applications

median turret
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Uni Saarland, Germany
Charles Uni, Czech
TU Wien, Austria

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Soon Bonn, Germany as well

lime mulch
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France application are opening soon also

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You could look into TU delft maybe

austere rampart
median turret
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I have a DAAD scholarship interview on Wednesday so studying at the moment

echo thunder
median turret
# echo thunder What are u studying

Just for the interview, I had a representative reach out to me and mention that it's a pretty difficult interview. They try to see if you have a good reason to study there and if you have a good 2-3 year plan before they give you funding

limber loom
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University of Helsinki

echo thunder
median turret
# echo thunder How did it go

Eh okay, I don't have my hopes up. They mostly asked technical questions but I messed up the culture / politics question at the end. Here's hoping

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There are 6 people from my country so the chances aren't that bad

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How's your applying journey so @echo thunder?

echo thunder
echo thunder
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Professors at my old uni just igonring me with like recommendation letters. It's really annoying

median turret
echo thunder
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@median turret what unis did u try till now?

median turret
echo thunder
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Ooo nice nice

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Did u ask for recc letters from ur previous professors or

median turret
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Where are you applying?

cold rune
echo thunder
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Zheijjiang and in the future Shenzhen. They got really good Graphics lab

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Maybe will try Nanjing as well. Their deadlines are closer. I will then try Delft, Graz, Saarland, and Wien

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Finland and Sweden have great unis but too expensive. France, don't know french. Sad stuff

median turret
lethal pelican
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Anyone thinking about Wien, get your applications in ASAP. I sent mine in September and it took almost 5 months to get my letter as a non-EU applicant.

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Snail mail will eat a lot of time

echo thunder
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I have a cousin in Germany. Can i ask them to mail

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I could send them stuff through gmail... Tbf

median turret
median turret
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Where did you send your application from? (It's okay to not answer for anonymity reasons, understandable)

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Balkan mail is super slow so I expect such delays for me as well

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But wasn't there some clause on the site that if the mail takes too long they can retry it via email?

lethal pelican
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US, was able to get it there fast because of some relatives nearby + fedex, but the return trip took about 3 weeks, one of which was it being stuck in customs. The actual review process was a little bit over the 3 month estimate that they give for that, and it probably got slowed down by the holidays. I think if you tell them that your visa situation will be impacted they'll provide you an email copy, but I didn't have to test that.

median turret
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Yikes, sorry that happened 😢 At least you finally received it!

echo thunder
cold rune
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No no you can send a certified copy of your original document.

median turret
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Yes^ sorry

echo thunder
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But seriusly though. TU Wien should modernize man. Every other uni is so much easier.

median turret
# echo thunder What woul da certified copy entail?

Depends on the country, they have legalization requirements by default (which usually means if you don't provide the original document you need a copy done by a notary office of some sort). They're not required for some countries with which they have some agreements, but for most it's required

cold rune
echo thunder
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Ahhh man it's never done lol. Constantly having to do so much stuff just to apply for further studies

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So much beurocracy

echo thunder
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u have a bachelors thesis? Did u apply to bonn

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I don't get this at all. Also login portal is so annoying

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median turret
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From these deadlines, you still can't apply. If you go to the login portal, it will show you only programmes that you can apply for. So the Computer Science program will show only from 15th April

echo thunder
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Did you do gre

median turret
median turret
unkempt jungle
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@lament beacon are you in this thread already ?