GrubStomper29's Project Thread | Graphics Programming | Page 3

prisma otter Dec 19, 2025, 5:09 AM

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find a game you like and almost copy it

worldly acorn Dec 19, 2025, 8:41 AM

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Cave story

prisma otter Dec 19, 2025, 8:53 AM

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True he does bring that one up every 5 seconds KEKW

raven halo Dec 19, 2025, 1:36 PM

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Cave Story

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maybe i should have a playthru to refresh my mind

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i never did complete the no health upgrade run

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probably because the latter half of the game becomes a one-shot bullet hell without health upgrades

raven halo Dec 19, 2025, 2:05 PM

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i got to the final phase of the final boss though

raven halo Dec 19, 2025, 4:10 PM

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GrubStomper29's Project Thread

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so we dont have to continuously hop threads

prisma otter Dec 19, 2025, 4:42 PM

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Cave Story clone then?

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Obviously with your own story & style

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Will you use OpenGL? The best API as always

raven halo Dec 19, 2025, 5:57 PM

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actually considering sdl

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is not also good for 2d?

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if not, then gl

hushed crescent Dec 19, 2025, 5:59 PM

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with 2D it's hard to go wrong, just use what you like/what seems interesting to you

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vblanco's been looking at writing some sdlgpu tutorials so you can probably snoop his thread on that https://discord.com/channels/318590007881236480/1448776770542375064

raven halo Dec 19, 2025, 6:01 PM

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i thought sdl gpu was meant to be sort of like a simpler vulkan clone

hushed crescent Dec 19, 2025, 6:02 PM

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idk if that'd necessarily be wrong

raven halo Dec 19, 2025, 6:02 PM

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but probably wrong for my use case

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I was more referring to the more basic sdl 2d functionality

hushed crescent Dec 19, 2025, 6:03 PM

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oh, I don't know what they have

raven halo Dec 19, 2025, 6:03 PM

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but since I'm most familiar with gl, i'll probably use that

hushed crescent Dec 19, 2025, 6:03 PM

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do they have a library for GDI/canvas esque 2D painting

raven halo Dec 19, 2025, 6:03 PM

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interesting

hushed crescent Dec 19, 2025, 6:03 PM

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no I'm asking, I don't know

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that might be something you want for 2D potentially

raven halo Dec 19, 2025, 6:04 PM

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idk

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actually i wouldnt mind trying out some digital painting program to see if i can make "hand painted" backgrounds

hushed crescent Dec 19, 2025, 6:07 PM

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do you have an idea for what kind of 2D you're going for

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what you might need

raven halo Dec 19, 2025, 6:09 PM

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probably sidescrolling if thats what youre asking

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so id likely be starting out with a tile engine

hushed crescent Dec 19, 2025, 6:09 PM

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I mean like pixel art, live2D/spine, baked renders, some other thing

raven halo Dec 19, 2025, 6:09 PM

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no clue there

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for characters, maybe hand drawn

hushed crescent Dec 19, 2025, 6:09 PM

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that would motivate your rendering stack more than anything

raven halo Dec 19, 2025, 6:10 PM

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i have an artstyle, see my pfp

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check the hand on that last one, unironically good

prisma otter Dec 19, 2025, 6:18 PM

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Is it all gonna be monochrome?

raven halo Dec 19, 2025, 6:19 PM

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no idea

prisma otter Dec 19, 2025, 6:31 PM

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I mean thats probably something to think about before you start

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since if you need to colour in these drawings its gonna change everything

hushed crescent Dec 19, 2025, 7:03 PM

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greyscale can look really good

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tho it seems you mainly draw with pencil so you're gonna have issues with contrast and touching up your scans

worldly acorn Dec 19, 2025, 7:16 PM

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Pencil line drawing and then overpaint/watercolor in krita

raven halo Dec 19, 2025, 8:24 PM

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pencil draw, light, capture with 12mm film

prisma otter Dec 19, 2025, 8:28 PM

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12mm film? do you mean 16mm?

raven halo Dec 19, 2025, 8:28 PM

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probably

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idk anything about that stuff

prisma otter Dec 19, 2025, 8:28 PM

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12mm doesn't exist to my knowledge

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the is 8mm, 16mm, 35mm or 70mm

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It would have looked better if the lighting was more even

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do you have a flatbed scanner?

raven halo Dec 19, 2025, 8:41 PM

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prisma otter

was this some digital traceover?

raven halo Dec 19, 2025, 8:42 PM

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prisma otter do you have a flatbed scanner?

yeah i think

prisma otter Dec 19, 2025, 8:42 PM

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Basically just adjusting contrast in gimp and cleaning up some lines

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Also trying to compensate for the perspective

raven halo Dec 19, 2025, 11:13 PM

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dmb's crash might be about the 5 stages of grief

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more on this theory later

prisma otter Dec 19, 2025, 11:17 PM

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Ok so cave story clone with soundtrack by DMB

raven halo Dec 20, 2025, 3:46 AM

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raven halo dmb's crash might be about the 5 stages of grief

this could not be less true, nvm

raven halo Dec 22, 2025, 1:52 AM

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actually I wanted to make you all aware of this project https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/1002151600/

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just a meme but also I think its a pretty nicely designed boss fight

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pretty fun when I made it 4 years ago

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heres a comment someone left on the original

raven halo Dec 22, 2025, 4:42 AM

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big things are brewing

raven halo Dec 23, 2025, 12:45 AM

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does anyone have any experience with geany?

winged ruin Dec 23, 2025, 12:45 AM

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please dont

raven halo Dec 23, 2025, 12:45 AM

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well

winged ruin Dec 23, 2025, 12:46 AM

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just use vscode or clion

raven halo Dec 23, 2025, 12:46 AM

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vscode is a no

winged ruin Dec 23, 2025, 12:46 AM

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how is it a no?

raven halo Dec 23, 2025, 12:46 AM

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its ms

winged ruin Dec 23, 2025, 12:46 AM

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vscodium then

raven halo Dec 23, 2025, 12:46 AM

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i dont wanna download it bc i dont agree with the download page's privacy policy

winged ruin Dec 23, 2025, 12:46 AM

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you can use zed

raven halo Dec 23, 2025, 12:48 AM

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I'll give that a look

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but yeah, whats wrong with geany?

winged ruin Dec 23, 2025, 12:49 AM

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geany or qt creator is brain damage. Its just bad

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you dont have many options if you dont want vs, vscode. Only clion, vscodium, zed, neovim, emacs are left

raven halo Dec 23, 2025, 12:51 AM

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alright

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youd think out of all the foss out there, one of them would be a decent code editor

dry basalt Dec 23, 2025, 1:16 AM

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raven halo youd think out of all the foss out there, one of them would be a decent code edi...

Kdevelop

winged ruin Dec 23, 2025, 1:16 AM

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brain damage

hushed crescent Dec 23, 2025, 1:27 AM

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devcpp

raven halo Dec 23, 2025, 3:48 AM

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isnt that also brain damage

dry basalt Dec 23, 2025, 3:56 AM

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kdevelop is not brain damage if you use c++ and cmake

raven halo Dec 23, 2025, 4:24 AM

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-- SDL_OPENGL (Wanted: on): OFF

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hmm

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alright i deleted all the cmake stuff then restarted and that's fixed

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Could not create GL context: GLXBadFBConfig

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oh

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only gl 4.5 on linux? what?

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alright so i updated my graphics driver to the recommended and now my keyboard and wifi dont work

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lsusb shows both keyboard and dongle, so what gives?

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fortunately i had a system restore point

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@prisma otter make sure you set these up to restore very often

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yeah for some reason, installing the nvidia driver reliably breaks my keyboard and wifi

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wack

dry basalt Dec 23, 2025, 5:24 AM

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raven halo lsusb shows both keyboard and dongle, so what gives?

maybe the dongle is showing up as a hub or something? idk

prisma otter Dec 23, 2025, 5:05 PM

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raven halo yeah for some reason, installing the nvidia driver reliably breaks my keyboard a...

Shoulda used arch KEKW

raven halo Dec 23, 2025, 5:13 PM

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alright i got the driver updated successfully

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but I still only have gl 4.5 compatibility

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maybe that's why ASO wouldn't work? Do you require a core profile? @prisma otter

prisma otter Dec 23, 2025, 5:16 PM

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I do ask for core

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Dunno why your driver is so borked

raven halo Dec 23, 2025, 5:20 PM

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I think I figured it out?

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Despite all my installs, the reported driver is some mesa device

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so I used driver auto update via the terminal and now I have the proper nvidia driver with gl 4.6

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ill check if aso works

raven halo Dec 23, 2025, 7:23 PM

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raven halo Dec 24, 2025, 3:17 AM

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hellotriangle time

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looking at debug vs release builds with cmake and if I understand correctly, cmake handles that automatically right?

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the end user will just specify debug or release when calling the cmake command

prisma otter Dec 24, 2025, 4:03 AM

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raven halo the end user will just specify debug or release when calling the cmake command

End user? I sure hope the end user never has to touch cmake

dry basalt Dec 24, 2025, 6:02 AM

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raven halo looking at debug vs release builds with cmake and if I understand correctly, cma...

Yep, cmake will automatically switch preprocessor macros and compile flags for debug vs release

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And the different types of builds it offers, ex. Optimizing code size (minsizerel)

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Or release with debug info (relwithdebinfo)

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You can define custom ones but those should cover most scenarios

raven halo Dec 24, 2025, 5:24 PM

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ig since I'm using cmake's fetch content for the larger libraries i dont need to include their licenses since I'm not really distributing their code?

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gpt says otherwise and brings up the fair point that the build process still requires downloading those libraries

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wouldnt hurt to include the licenses then

dry basalt Dec 24, 2025, 5:31 PM

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raven halo ig since I'm using cmake's fetch content for the larger libraries i dont need to...

If you distribute binaries and those libraries are under MIT or Apache, they usually require the license to be distributed along with the software

prisma otter Dec 24, 2025, 5:36 PM

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The above copyright notice and this permission notice shall be included in all copies or substantial portions of the Software.

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That's what MIT says

raven halo Dec 24, 2025, 8:40 PM

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which means i should probably go and tweak Green Hour lol

dry basalt Dec 24, 2025, 8:55 PM

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If your pulling down mit libraries at compile time/you dont distribute them it's fine to leave it out

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Like cmake fetchcontent will have the person who clones the repo get the code, you aren't distributing it

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So if it's MIT licensed, you dont need to distribute the mit license

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But if you distribute binaries, your distributing that code that was pulled from cmake fetch content now and you have the include the mit license

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Idk what licenses your dependencies have, I typically stick to mit licensed stuff so thats just what I know

hushed crescent Dec 24, 2025, 9:23 PM

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if/when you ever distribute something you can probably just write a little cmake routine to grab and concat all the license files and dump them in your binary

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or alternatively just point to the license in the github repo in some links thing somewhere

raven halo Dec 24, 2025, 10:07 PM

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the readme maybe?

raven halo Dec 25, 2025, 4:05 AM

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yk i had a weird dream

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4 "people" like 9 feet tall killed some people, took their guns, and occupied some warehouse esque building

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and the local townspeople found out and tried killing them but couldnt win the ensuing battle

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and more and more people joined the mob eventually comprising of 2.2 million armed citizens trying to kill the 4 hyperboreans or wtv they were

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1.2 million of those were killed in the battle and 4 didnt lose a single one

worldly acorn Dec 25, 2025, 6:55 AM

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Agartha: the last stand lmao

raven halo Dec 25, 2025, 6:28 PM

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demongod been watching insta reels

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Merry Christmas

raven halo Dec 26, 2025, 12:58 AM

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@prisma otter

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look at what i got

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+a huge arduino kit

prisma otter Dec 26, 2025, 12:59 AM

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raven halo <@430230566814744577>

Nice kalimba

worldly acorn Dec 26, 2025, 1:03 AM

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raven halo demongod been watching insta reels

Nah lol my friend showed those to me though

raven halo Dec 26, 2025, 1:15 AM

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prisma otter Nice kalimba

Obviously I could use it to record or compose quick stuff but I wonder what the point of the instrument is besides novelty

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imo it sounds the same as a xylophone but cant play sharps or flats without specific tuning

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ig it is very portable

worldly acorn Dec 26, 2025, 1:17 AM

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I'm sure there's some genre of music that it's made to play specifically

raven halo Dec 26, 2025, 1:20 AM

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yeah its called Cmaj KEKW

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not complaining tho, handheld xylohpone is still dope

worldly acorn Dec 26, 2025, 2:20 AM

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It probably has limited utility overall but it might be good for a little game soundtrack or something here or there

raven halo Dec 26, 2025, 2:21 AM

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absolutely

raven halo Dec 26, 2025, 4:00 PM

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I'm still a little peeved at that driver error

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updating a graphics driver from the gui should not have different results from updating from terminal

raven halo Dec 27, 2025, 1:24 AM

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wow make sure to enable LDAC if you can

raven halo Dec 27, 2025, 3:57 AM

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I have obtained the Crash flacs

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BTCS is next

raven halo Dec 27, 2025, 4:58 PM

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well I just beat cave story with no health upgrades

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that puts me in the top 1% of players

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pretty cool

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theres some extra really hard stuff I can do without the health upgrades that would put me in the top 0.02% that i might get started on shortly

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hopefully i wont go insane trying to do it

prisma otter Dec 27, 2025, 5:40 PM

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raven halo hopefully i wont go insane trying to do it

Instead go insane trying to recreate cave story froge_love

raven halo Dec 27, 2025, 7:24 PM

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i gotta make a tile engine

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ig I'm start with the easiest tileset texture: one tile

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how about this lol

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nah lets avoid copyright infringement

raven halo Dec 29, 2025, 2:56 AM

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@prisma otter are you aware of flams

prisma otter Dec 29, 2025, 2:57 AM

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Like on a drum?

raven halo Dec 29, 2025, 2:57 AM

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yeah

prisma otter Dec 29, 2025, 2:58 AM

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what about them

raven halo Dec 29, 2025, 8:24 PM

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just if you were aware

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they're useful

worldly acorn Dec 29, 2025, 8:24 PM

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I forget what they even are lol, two nearly simultaneous hits?

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I haven't done rudiments since I first started learning drums

raven halo Dec 29, 2025, 8:37 PM

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worldly acorn I forget what they even are lol, two nearly simultaneous hits?

yeah

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thats like the first one lol surely you used it enough to remember the name

worldly acorn Dec 29, 2025, 8:38 PM

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Not really the single paradiddle is like the quintessential warm up rudiment

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Flams aren't all that frequently used ime

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I guess maybe in concert band they were used a bit

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Not in my set playing though

raven halo Dec 29, 2025, 8:40 PM

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interesting

worldly acorn Dec 29, 2025, 8:40 PM

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But I haven't really done that structured stuff in ages I just pick up the sticks and play

raven halo Dec 29, 2025, 8:40 PM

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i hear it a lot in set playing

worldly acorn Dec 29, 2025, 8:40 PM

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maybe in the kind of music you listen to more

raven halo Dec 29, 2025, 8:41 PM

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perhaps

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litterally the first thing you hear in the BTCS album is a snare rimshot lol

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but Im certain i could find other tracks in other genres

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there a bunch in aqualung

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which is british prog rock lol

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one in the first 30 sec of Any Colour You Like by Pink Floyd

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There's one near 0:59 of Chop Suey by System Of A Down

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(idk why they capitalize Of A)

raven halo Dec 30, 2025, 4:25 PM

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oh i guess i should remove my vulkan role

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It's nice to be back

winged ruin Dec 30, 2025, 4:43 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/i-love-you-binh-gif-6142726653922245520

Tenor

prisma otter Dec 30, 2025, 6:20 PM

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raven halo It's nice to be back

OpenGL best API once again

raven halo Dec 31, 2025, 3:31 AM

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winged ruin https://tenor.com/view/i-love-you-binh-gif-6142726653922245520

dont fret

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in 10 years all our gl code will probably have to run on a vulkan translation layer

raven halo Jan 1, 2026, 12:02 AM

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alright the

[save all]
make
../2D_Game

is getting old

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vscode really needs a save all button or shortcut

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and maybe i can streamlike the build and run with an extension or script

worldly acorn Jan 1, 2026, 12:18 AM

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You can script the make/run part

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Idk about the saving

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I use vim so I sort of always have files saved

prisma otter Jan 1, 2026, 12:41 AM

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raven halo vscode really needs a save all button or shortcut

can I offer you some clion?

winged ruin Jan 1, 2026, 12:52 AM

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raven halo vscode really needs a save all button or shortcut

enable auto save

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it will make your life easier

raven halo Jan 1, 2026, 3:13 AM

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dont wanna jinx it but this is the first in a long time where ive coded a lot today and still want to do more

worldly acorn Jan 1, 2026, 3:13 AM

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What are you working on again

prisma otter Jan 1, 2026, 3:17 AM

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worldly acorn What are you working on again

Cave story clone with soundtrack by a dmb cover band

worldly acorn Jan 1, 2026, 3:17 AM

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Unironically can't tell if joking or not but cool if so lol

raven halo Jan 1, 2026, 3:18 AM

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not a clone and idk how the music will be

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but a 2d game

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making a tile engine right now

prisma otter Jan 1, 2026, 3:20 AM

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Will it be a metroidvania though?

raven halo Jan 1, 2026, 3:20 AM

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itll be what i make of it

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bc i honestly dont know what metroidvania really means lol

worldly acorn Jan 1, 2026, 3:23 AM

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It basically means you have a game progression that consists of a process of exploration by which you unlock a sequence of tools or weapons that give you access to later parts of the game

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Like in Metroid Prime you're running around and there might be some hole in the wall that you can't fit through, but eventually you find the morph ball upgrade and suddenly have the ability to bypass a barrier to the next area

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In a basically open world

prisma otter Jan 1, 2026, 3:29 AM

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I would say interconnected rather than open but yeah

worldly acorn Jan 1, 2026, 3:29 AM

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Open in the sense that you roam it freely not in being like a big open flat terrain

raven halo Jan 1, 2026, 3:29 AM

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yeah that sounds vaguely along the lines of what im thinking

prisma otter Jan 1, 2026, 3:30 AM

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Well you need the upgrades to access large portions of the map so it's not really open is what I mean

worldly acorn Jan 1, 2026, 3:30 AM

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Ah I see

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Yeah I guess so

prisma otter Jan 1, 2026, 3:32 AM

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Castlevania sotn my beloved is another great example

raven halo Jan 1, 2026, 3:32 AM

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I'm thinking a bit far ahead, in terms of story maybe a city like Austin is completely quarantined due to a lethal airborne disease and you're sent in with some cbrn guys to investigate that

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because otherwise the gov will napalm and raze the city

worldly acorn Jan 1, 2026, 3:35 AM

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Tangential but every gamedev should play Metroid Prime at least once in their life

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Masterpiece

raven halo Jan 1, 2026, 3:35 AM

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Thanks, a valid excuse to buy a gamecube

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nvm my wii can play gc games 😞

worldly acorn Jan 1, 2026, 3:36 AM

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You'd want to do it with a gc controller though

raven halo Jan 1, 2026, 4:29 AM

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prisma otter can I offer you some clion?

mentioned in White & Nerdy!?

worldly acorn Jan 1, 2026, 4:36 AM

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Lmao

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Maybe you noticed this since you're younger but I remember going back and watching that music video in like 2016 and being blown away to see that some of the gangsters are Key & Peele

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I first saw the video in like 2008 or something before they were famous

raven halo Jan 1, 2026, 4:38 AM

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Yeah LOL

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i havent seen the video in a long long time and rewatched it today and thought "hey its that comedian"

worldly acorn Jan 1, 2026, 4:47 AM

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And then another weird thing I didn't notice until years later was that one of the guys in the original riding dirty music video also plays the president in The Fifth Element

raven halo Jan 1, 2026, 2:53 PM

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Happy new year guys

raven halo Jan 1, 2026, 2:53 PM

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winged ruin enable auto save

this is lovely, I have it set to autosave whenever I click the terminal

raven halo Jan 1, 2026, 3:46 PM

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I wish there was a way to publish my stuff without AI training on it while still being FOSS for humans

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maybe I can append something to MIT license or something

prisma otter Jan 1, 2026, 7:01 PM

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raven halo maybe I can append something to MIT license or something

I guarantee you the AI scrapers will not listen to it

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They blatantly violate copyright all over the place

raven halo Jan 1, 2026, 7:52 PM

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yeah I'm cooked either way

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the real solution is to not upload to github but im too lazy for that

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to the public domain it is

worldly acorn Jan 1, 2026, 8:15 PM

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If it's a private repo they claim to not train on it I think

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Whether or not that's true is another matter

prisma otter Jan 1, 2026, 8:42 PM

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raven halo the real solution is to not upload to github but im too lazy for that

codeberg is also a thing https://codeberg.org/

Codeberg.org

Codeberg is a non-profit community-led organization that aims to help free and open source projects prosper by giving them a safe and friendly home.

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It's only for open source though

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otherwise I would be using it

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ASO is hosted on sourcehut

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which is not free, but extremely cheap

raven halo Jan 1, 2026, 8:57 PM

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worldly acorn If it's a private repo they claim to not train on it I think

but then you can't see it

raven halo Jan 1, 2026, 8:57 PM

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prisma otter It's only for open source though

I'm thinking gnu gpl3 so that might work

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dont I need a separate license for media/data files? gnu seems to only cover source code

prisma otter Jan 1, 2026, 8:59 PM

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GPL is a bit of a sticky licence I'm not sure I would use it

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But it is your code its up to you

raven halo Jan 1, 2026, 9:03 PM

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prisma otter GPL is a bit of a sticky licence I'm not sure I would use it

what about it?

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forcing derivatives to also use gpl? I'm fine with that

prisma otter Jan 1, 2026, 9:04 PM

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Also things that link with it

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but I suppose you aren't making a lib

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so that part doesn't matter

raven halo Jan 1, 2026, 9:12 PM

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Actually, you have a point Jake

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my own derivatives might be required to be gpl3

prisma otter Jan 1, 2026, 9:16 PM

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You can tack stuff on to the MIT or BSD if you want

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all of these licences are legally tenous anyways

raven halo Jan 1, 2026, 9:17 PM

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yeah i think mit was what i mostly used previously

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that still leaves the media question

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i probably have to include a separate license file for that like cc

prisma otter Jan 1, 2026, 9:18 PM

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Creative commons is probably what you want yea

worldly acorn Jan 1, 2026, 9:18 PM

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CC-BY-SA if you don't mind people using them

prisma otter Jan 1, 2026, 9:19 PM

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https://creativecommons.org/share-your-work/cclicenses/

Creative Commons

About CC Licenses - Creative Commons

Creative Commons licenses give everyone from individual creators to large institutions a standardized way to grant the public permission to use their creative work under copyright law. From the reuser’s perspective, the presence of a Creative Commons license on a copyrighted work answers the question, What can I do with this work? The CC Licen...

worldly acorn Jan 1, 2026, 9:19 PM

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Also technically not consumable by AI

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But I'm sure they would anyways

prisma otter Jan 1, 2026, 9:20 PM

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Yeah they don't care if they break the law

worldly acorn Jan 1, 2026, 9:20 PM

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It's the BY part specifically since the models are unable to perform attribution

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So unless it were ruled that listing every single author whose work ended up in the corpus in one big blob of attribution were legal, it's probably not

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But nothing will happen

prisma otter Jan 1, 2026, 9:21 PM

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Oh its definetly illegal

raven halo Jan 1, 2026, 9:22 PM

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shhhh i dont like mods in my thread

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critters

worldly acorn Jan 1, 2026, 9:23 PM

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Lmao sorry

raven halo Jan 1, 2026, 9:23 PM

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youre good lol

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kinda weird that im bound by the licenses of my own work even though i own the ip

worldly acorn Jan 1, 2026, 9:24 PM

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I'm not sure that you are

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If you own the original copy in private on your computer, all rights are reserved

prisma otter Jan 1, 2026, 9:24 PM

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Yeah I think people change licences pretty frequently

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SDL used to be GPL iirc

worldly acorn Jan 1, 2026, 9:25 PM

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You can release a new version with whatever license you want since it's your own property

raven halo Jan 1, 2026, 9:25 PM

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okay

worldly acorn Jan 1, 2026, 9:25 PM

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It's only the end user whose rights are granted by the license who is subject to it afaik

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But I'm not a lawyer

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So idk what I'm talking about

raven halo Jan 1, 2026, 9:26 PM

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cc by sa looks good

prisma otter Jan 1, 2026, 9:27 PM

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Are you going to try codeberg?

raven halo Jan 1, 2026, 9:28 PM

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i think I'll look into it

raven halo Jan 1, 2026, 9:29 PM

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raven halo cc by sa looks good

non-sa might work too

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btw @prisma otter ive been very happy with bluetooth audio over the LDAC codec

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I'm using technics az80 and imo it sounds as good as or better than sennheiser hd 280 pros

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oh the buds are twice the price that makes sense

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still its a shame apple doesnt seem to support ldac. I'm very fortunate to have an android

prisma otter Jan 1, 2026, 9:42 PM

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I'll stick with my wired headphones

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I don't trust bluetooth

raven halo Jan 1, 2026, 9:42 PM

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wired headphones in the gym?

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or what if you get in a swordfight? itll be a liability

worldly acorn Jan 1, 2026, 9:49 PM

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I just don't listen to music in the gym personally

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I leave my phone in a locker so I don't get distracted

raven halo Jan 1, 2026, 9:52 PM

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doing that is awesome especially in a home gym

worldly acorn Jan 1, 2026, 9:52 PM

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When I work out at home I get endlessly distracted by my phone lol

raven halo Jan 1, 2026, 9:52 PM

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but i just ripped these CDs and got these earbuds so i gotta put em to work lol

hushed crescent Jan 1, 2026, 9:54 PM

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raven halo wired headphones in the gym?

I just tuck my wired earbuds into my shirt

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not full headphones tho

prisma otter Jan 1, 2026, 9:54 PM

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Yeah I don't listen to music outside of my house most of the time

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I prefer to be able to hear things when I'm outside

hushed crescent Jan 1, 2026, 9:55 PM

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more and more these days I just wear earbuds while working out so people don't talk to me

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not always in the mood for music

raven halo Jan 1, 2026, 9:56 PM

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sometimes i do it because im doing some chore while my parents are watching tv

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if I'm going to hear something distracting, id like it to be on my own terms

hushed crescent Jan 1, 2026, 9:56 PM

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yeah vacuuming is also a great time to listen to music

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having a loudness war with your vacuum is probably not great for your ears but whatever

raven halo Jan 1, 2026, 9:58 PM

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noise canceling baby

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I'll have to test these buds for lawnmowing and potentially buy foam tips for that

raven halo Jan 2, 2026, 1:48 AM

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I'm having trouble with reading files in binary

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the file is .bin and in hex reads 00 00 00 05

worldly acorn Jan 2, 2026, 1:49 AM

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Are you explicitly opening them in binary mode

raven halo Jan 2, 2026, 1:49 AM

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yes

worldly acorn Jan 2, 2026, 1:49 AM

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Hm

raven halo Jan 2, 2026, 1:49 AM

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i use fstream::read((char*)&uint32Var, 4);

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and i get some nonsense like 50000

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which i believe is a result of the data being read/interpeted with some offset i never asked for

worldly acorn Jan 2, 2026, 1:50 AM

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Endianness issue mayhaps

raven halo Jan 2, 2026, 1:51 AM

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so should i try 50 00 00 00

worldly acorn Jan 2, 2026, 1:52 AM

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Yes that would be the number 0x50

raven halo Jan 2, 2026, 2:46 AM

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now it reads 80

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before, it read 83886080

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when it's 00 00 00 00, it reads correctly as zero

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when its FF FF FF FF it reads 4294967295

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which seems correct

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so I'm thinking the bytes are reversed but not the byte order

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which is weird. how do i make it not do that

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so 01 00 00 00 appears as 1

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oh well I think I can work with it

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alright guys here's what I have so far

#

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I drew the tile in gimp. The tiles are rendered stupidly but it works for now. The level is stored in a .bin file and ghex is my level editor

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now to add a guy who can move, then i think I'll work on engine structure

worldly acorn Jan 2, 2026, 3:17 AM

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raven halo now it reads 80

80 = 0x50 so that seems right to me

raven halo Jan 2, 2026, 3:17 AM

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yeah i got that fixed

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this has been fun so far

raven halo Jan 3, 2026, 1:12 AM

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man i forgot about this track

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https://youtu.be/mahfDsJubiw

YouTube

SOIL&"PIMP"SESSIONS - Topic

Monad

Provided to YouTube by The Orchard Enterprises

Monad · Soil & “Pimp” Sessions

Man Steals the Stars

℗ 2019 Victor Entertainment Group under exclusive license to Red River Entertainment

Released on: 2019-12-04

Auto-generated by YouTube.

▶ Play video

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this is the band that invented death jazz

raven halo Jan 3, 2026, 4:47 PM

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I just realized my entire rendering code was inside the SDL_PollEvent() loop bleaker_kekw

raven halo Jan 3, 2026, 9:52 PM

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alright guys we have collisions now

prisma otter Jan 3, 2026, 11:06 PM

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Just need some gravity now froge_love

raven halo Jan 4, 2026, 12:22 AM

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i wonder how tile positions should work

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imo it makes the most sense for a tile's origin to be its center and not one of its corners

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idk about the player though, I'm torn between his center or at his feet

prisma otter Jan 4, 2026, 12:34 AM

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raven halo idk about the player though, I'm torn between his center or at his feet

I put character origins at the bottom center

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I did this when I was doing 2D as well

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so like between their feet

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it is up to you however

worldly acorn Jan 4, 2026, 12:35 AM

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Just try it one way and decide

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Placing tile origins at the center is going to make for a lot of ±h/2 factors in your codebase

raven halo Jan 4, 2026, 12:36 AM

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worldly acorn Placing tile origins at the center is going to make for a lot of ±h/2 factors in...

didnt we used to have a true emoji?

prisma otter Jan 4, 2026, 12:36 AM

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Either way will make some calculation simpler but others more complicated

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So just do whatever seems most intuitive

raven halo Jan 4, 2026, 12:37 AM

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anyways yeah, but for some reason if its a corner i always spend a while looking at a coordinate and wondering "is it this tile or that tile?"

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so I'll go with center for now

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and for entities, bottom center

raven halo Jan 4, 2026, 12:38 AM

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raven halo

also i love how ripped the guy looks 😆

worldly acorn Jan 4, 2026, 12:39 AM

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Personally I would just standardize on the origins being the bottom left corner of the tile but up to you

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Because then the fractional part of the position like 3.2 also tells you that you're 0.2 of the way across the tile which has useful implications

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You can just fract/floor/ceil your way back and forth between coordinates and stuff

raven halo Jan 4, 2026, 12:40 AM

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yeah

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i think the pixel art will be temporary

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i do wanna explore other means

raven halo Jan 4, 2026, 4:34 PM

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man this album was weird as flip but then theyll randomly drop some crazy solo like whatever this is https://youtu.be/iKLMgM5NWW4?t=2m40s

YouTube

SOIL&"PIMP"SESSIONS - Topic

Galaxy Lady

Provided to YouTube by The Orchard Enterprises

Galaxy Lady · Soil & “Pimp” Sessions

Man Steals the Stars

℗ 2019 Victor Entertainment Group under exclusive license to Red River Entertainment

Released on: 2019-12-04

Auto-generated by YouTube.

▶ Play video

raven halo Jan 4, 2026, 10:16 PM

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time for engine structure

raven halo Jan 4, 2026, 10:58 PM

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i should probably implement a garbage collector or deletion queue a la vkguide

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im too lazy for RAII and i always forget to manually delete gl objects

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well, I probably wont need to manually keep track of that much stuff since most things should hopefully be an unordererd_map

prisma otter Jan 4, 2026, 11:23 PM

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raven halo im too lazy for RAII and i always forget to manually delete gl objects

RAII is quite easy lol

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Its good for laziness

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it cleans things up almost automagically

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without the need of GC

worldly acorn Jan 4, 2026, 11:30 PM

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I don't delete anything lol

prisma otter Jan 4, 2026, 11:31 PM

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I don't call delete either froge_love , I use RAII instead

worldly acorn Jan 4, 2026, 11:32 PM

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I just don't really consciously delete resources lol I do have some RAII for some things but I generally just load everything I need at startup and it stays loaded until the program dies

prisma otter Jan 4, 2026, 11:32 PM

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Yeah problem is when the program dies you have no idea what order things get cleaned up in which can be a problem

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Also you may find that you need to load and unload things in the middle of the program, which is what I realized when I implemented save files

worldly acorn Jan 4, 2026, 11:33 PM

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I have an explicit order for my systems I just don't really pay attention to the graphics resources much

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Yeah for sure if I needed that I'd need to

prisma otter Jan 4, 2026, 11:33 PM

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No save files in SRS I take it?

worldly acorn Jan 4, 2026, 11:34 PM

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No ofc not

prisma otter Jan 4, 2026, 11:34 PM

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lol

worldly acorn Jan 4, 2026, 11:34 PM

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But even if I did I think the resources would be the same regardless

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The save file would be scene content

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I just load everything rn

prisma otter Jan 4, 2026, 11:35 PM

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I guess you don't have alot of highres textures KEKW

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so it works

worldly acorn Jan 4, 2026, 11:35 PM

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It's all terrain which needs to be loaded regardless

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My terrain and foliage data is multiple gigabytes when loaded so 100MB of textures is basically irrelevant

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My cooked Jolt terrain collider cache is nearly a GB on its own

prisma otter Jan 4, 2026, 11:38 PM

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Why did you design this monstrosity KEKW

worldly acorn Jan 4, 2026, 11:38 PM

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Mental illness

prisma otter Jan 4, 2026, 11:39 PM

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the terrain data in ASO is < 100 MB

mystic kettle Jan 4, 2026, 11:47 PM

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worldly acorn My terrain and foliage data is multiple gigabytes when loaded so 100MB of textur...

That can't be right, your foliage was not that far from programmer art irrc. What are you storing even?

worldly acorn Jan 4, 2026, 11:47 PM

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The foliage data doesn't exist on disc but once the instances are placed it adds up in vram

prisma otter Jan 4, 2026, 11:47 PM

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mystic kettle That can't be right, your foliage was not that far from programmer art irrc. Wha...

Oh but much more was happening under the hood

mystic kettle Jan 4, 2026, 11:48 PM

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Of course, but surely it's not couple gigs

worldly acorn Jan 4, 2026, 11:48 PM

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No that's everything in total

mystic kettle Jan 4, 2026, 11:48 PM

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Ah

worldly acorn Jan 4, 2026, 11:48 PM

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Foliage data is probably a couple hundred MB but it all adds up

raven halo Jan 5, 2026, 12:26 AM

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worldly acorn I don't delete anything lol

what

worldly acorn Jan 5, 2026, 12:26 AM

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Why would I delete anything, I loaded it for a reason

raven halo Jan 5, 2026, 12:27 AM

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do you leave it to the os garbage collector?

worldly acorn Jan 5, 2026, 12:27 AM

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When the process dies the graphics context and all resources die with it

raven halo Jan 5, 2026, 12:27 AM

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intresting

worldly acorn Jan 5, 2026, 12:28 AM

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I have shutdown routines for most of my systems and some of them probably do clean up graphics resources explicitly or implicitly idk I just never really thought carefully about it

raven halo Jan 5, 2026, 12:29 AM

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fair point lol

prisma otter Jan 5, 2026, 12:51 AM

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worldly acorn Why would I delete anything, I loaded it for a reason

So to load another map you have to restart the program KEKW

worldly acorn Jan 5, 2026, 12:52 AM

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So far lol

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I haven't had more than one map at a time since I switched to the new terrain system

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Since making terrains is a bit laborious

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But in principle it wouldn't be hard to do since all systems just start up and shut down with a function call so in principle I could destroy most of the game and rebuild it without restarting the program

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I'm sure it wouldn't work out of the box but wouldn't take more than a few hours to get working I'm sure

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There's always some gotchas in that stuff, like there's a big difference between making your system parameters work for everything you'd generally enter manually, vs be robust enough that you can plumb it into an imgui menu and arbitrarily twiddle the values and create/destroy stuff and have it work seamlessly

raven halo Jan 5, 2026, 1:48 AM

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alright so this is what I have in my readme

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License
This project's source code is distributed under the terms of the MIT license. The licenses for this project's various included libraries can be found in the third_party folder. This project's data and media files, which can be found in the assets folder, are distributed under the terms of the CC BY 4.0 license.

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i chose a weird thing to bikeshed

raven halo Jan 6, 2026, 3:42 AM

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alright so

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i have a cpp file that corresponds to a .hpp file

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and it sorta goes like

namespace Graphics
{
  aBunchOfHelperFunctions();
  //...
  implementationsOfHeaderFunctions();
}

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im not terribly thrilled with that, it's a little messy imo. I'm thinking of having a helper cpp and hpp file for all the helper functions. What do yall think?

prisma otter Jan 6, 2026, 4:09 AM

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raven halo im not terribly thrilled with that, it's a little messy imo. I'm thinking of hav...

Now is not the time to be concerned with such meaningless trifles

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get your boi jumping

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you can refactor it later

raven halo Jan 6, 2026, 4:27 AM

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alright

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something i dont like about linux is how involved it is to install an app

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if sudo apt-get install doesnt work you gotta download it, stick everything in the right dir, setup a .desktop file, and in a lot of cases, extract the icon file

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ig thats more the distro's fault

prisma otter Jan 6, 2026, 4:30 AM

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raven halo ig thats more the distro's fault

It's not really the fault of any one distro

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Its the fact that on linux binaries are not neccesarily compatible across distros

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so it makes it impossible to provide a package that works across distros

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Well not impossible, since valve figured out a way to handle it

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Also the situation on arch is a bit better since alot of things are available on AUR

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I use arch btw

raven halo Jan 6, 2026, 4:34 AM

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i still am not 100% sure of the correct place to put .appimages

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i keep mine in ~/.local/bin

dry basalt Jan 6, 2026, 4:44 AM

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prisma otter Well not impossible, since valve figured out a way to handle it

steam uses essentially a sandboxed distro https://github.com/ValveSoftware/steam-runtime

GitHub

GitHub - ValveSoftware/steam-runtime: A runtime environment for Ste...

A runtime environment for Steam applications. Contribute to ValveSoftware/steam-runtime development by creating an account on GitHub.

prisma otter Jan 6, 2026, 4:44 AM

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Yeah I'm aware

dry basalt Jan 6, 2026, 4:47 AM

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ok seems like its just a sandboxed ubuntu lts

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interesting

worldly acorn Jan 6, 2026, 6:07 AM

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raven halo and it sorta goes like ```c++ namespace Graphics { aBunchOfHelperFunctions(); ...

Are these like templates

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Why do you need to define functions in the header

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Oh this is the cpp

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Nah just do it like that

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I recommend changing your IDE formatting to not indent the content of namespaces

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Most everything will be in a namespace which results in basically wasting the entire first indent worth of columns on the screen

raven halo Jan 6, 2026, 4:51 PM

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https://youtu.be/e8Oxf10q21w

YouTube

Marioaddict3

Me and the boys when Stardust Speedway Bad Future starts playin

oh heck no

(hue hue hue)

▶ Play video

raven halo Jan 6, 2026, 5:36 PM

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THE DRUMS ARE ANIMATED ACCURATELY TOO 💀 @worldly acorn

worldly acorn Jan 6, 2026, 5:40 PM

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Lmao

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A little mechanical looking but definitely accurate

raven halo Jan 7, 2026, 1:20 AM

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i think i should make a level editor next

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which means i probably need imgui

prisma otter Jan 7, 2026, 3:48 AM

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raven halo which means i probably need imgui

You always need imgui froge_love

raven halo Jan 7, 2026, 3:49 AM

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wordington

raven halo Jan 8, 2026, 5:52 AM

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level saving works

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though it feels like im doing some incredibly dangerous stuff here ```c++
std::ofstream oStream{ fileName, std::ios_base::binary };
oStream.seekp(0);

std::filesystem::resize_file(fileName, fileSize);

raven halo Jan 8, 2026, 6:12 AM

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alright im switching to copy initialization for basic types

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and should probably do the same for all types really

raven halo Jan 8, 2026, 2:26 PM

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raven halo alright im switching to copy initialization for basic types

brace init is a pain to type and forces you to cast types if theyre slightly different

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i am not casting from unsigned long to unsigned int bruh

raven halo Jan 9, 2026, 3:13 AM

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boy do i hate cmake

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"Let's make a build generator. Give it the worst syntax possible, make it useless, and ensure it has no mildly popular competitors."

raven halo Jan 9, 2026, 5:49 AM

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beginning to write the level editor

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anyways glad.c is so large that github thinks my project is primarily written in C

prisma otter Jan 9, 2026, 6:46 AM

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raven halo anyways glad.c is so large that github thinks my project is primarily written in...

You will just have to write more code then froge_love

worldly acorn Jan 9, 2026, 7:09 AM

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raven halo anyways glad.c is so large that github thinks my project is primarily written in...

If you become fetchcontent pilled you can remove it from your repo but yeah I usually just include it directly

mystic kettle Jan 9, 2026, 9:34 AM

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There are also git submodules if you don't like fetchcontent

hushed crescent Jan 9, 2026, 11:37 AM

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I think deccer has a sample on how to do it, I remember it being surprisingly annoying because only one branch of glad had convenient cmake integration

raven halo Jan 9, 2026, 2:37 PM

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absolutely not

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i wanna stay away from cmake for the time being

worldly acorn Jan 9, 2026, 8:31 PM

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# GLAD Configuration
FetchContent_Declare(
    glad
    GIT_REPOSITORY https://github.com/Dav1dde/glad.git
    GIT_SHALLOW TRUE
    GIT_PROGRESS TRUE
)

MESSAGE(STATUS "Fetching glad...")
SET(GLAD_PROFILE "core" CACHE STRING "OpenGL Profile")
SET(GLAD_API "gl=4.6" CACHE STRING "API Version")
SET(GLAD_GENERATOR "c" CACHE STRING "API Binding Language")
FetchContent_MakeAvailable(glad)

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and then just target_link_libraries(project PRIVATE glad)

prisma otter Jan 9, 2026, 8:47 PM

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Also CPM (cmake package manager) is worth looking into

hushed crescent Jan 9, 2026, 8:49 PM

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I need to give it a quick look over but I'm pretty confident submodules and/or fetchcontent can give you everything you need

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they've made good strides

keen forge Jan 9, 2026, 10:20 PM

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worldly acorn ```cmake # GLAD Configuration FetchContent_Declare( glad GIT_REPOSITORY ...

CPMAddPackage(
    NAME            glad
    GIT_REPOSITORY  https://github.com/Dav1dde/glad
    GIT_TAG         v2.0.6
    GIT_SHALLOW     TRUE
    GIT_PROGRESS    TRUE
    SYSTEM          TRUE
)
if(glad_ADDED)
    add_subdirectory("${glad_SOURCE_DIR}/cmake" glad_cmake SYSTEM)
    glad_add_library(glad STATIC REPRODUCIBLE EXCLUDE_FROM_ALL LOADER API gl:core=4.6)
endif()

or

FetchContent_Declare(
    glad
    GIT_REPOSITORY https://github.com/Dav1dde/glad.git
    GIT_SHALLOW TRUE
    GIT_PROGRESS TRUE
)

MESSAGE(STATUS "Fetching glad...")
SET(GLAD_PROFILE "core" CACHE STRING "OpenGL Profile")
SET(GLAD_API "gl=4.6" CACHE STRING "API Version")
SET(GLAD_GENERATOR "c" CACHE STRING "API Binding Language")
FetchContent_MakeAvailable(glad)
add_subdirectory("${glad_SOURCE_DIR}/cmake" glad_cmake SYSTEM)
glad_add_library(glad STATIC REPRODUCIBLE EXCLUDE_FROM_ALL LOADER API gl:core=4.6)

raven halo Jan 10, 2026, 5:49 PM

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i should probably test a windows build soon

raven halo Jan 10, 2026, 10:15 PM

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i wish dear imgui had some better documentation

keen forge Jan 10, 2026, 10:16 PM

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the _demo.cpp contains all the controls and how to use them | https://pthom.github.io/imgui_manual_online/manual/imgui_manual.html

mystic kettle Jan 10, 2026, 10:17 PM

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raven halo i wish dear imgui had some better documentation

There are alternatives like nuklear and whatnot

keen forge Jan 10, 2026, 10:18 PM

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indeed

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RmlUi too

raven halo Jan 11, 2026, 2:33 AM

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I change my mind, im going with the tile's origin being its bottom left corner

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here it is so far

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dull osprey Jan 11, 2026, 2:49 AM

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noice

prisma otter Jan 11, 2026, 5:36 AM

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raven halo here it is so far

You are honestly mogging 90% of this server by having gameplay in any capacity

prisma otter Jan 11, 2026, 6:43 AM

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raven halo

Honestly I can't wait to see some of your drawings in there now

raven halo Jan 11, 2026, 12:19 PM

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prisma otter You are honestly mogging 90% of this server by having gameplay in any capacity

splendid

raven halo Jan 11, 2026, 12:20 PM

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prisma otter Honestly I can't wait to see some of your drawings in there now

patience, I'm probably going to work on more gameplay first

raven halo Jan 11, 2026, 4:33 PM

#

Also in commemoration of Green Hour, i wanna name this game's engine after it

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Green Hour Engine/GHX

#

the game itself is still, naturally, untitled

dull osprey Jan 11, 2026, 4:38 PM

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what is green hour?

raven halo Jan 11, 2026, 4:40 PM

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originally what this thread was for, a 3d game i lost interest in making because i dont like 3d modeling

raven halo Jan 12, 2026, 2:35 AM

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how do yall separate your level editor from production builds?

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do you just leave it in hidden?

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I'm considering making mine debug only and gone from release builds

prisma otter Jan 12, 2026, 2:39 AM

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raven halo how do yall separate your level editor from production builds?

It's an option in the settings file

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I figured I would leave it in release builds in case people wanted to mess with it

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No reason to remove it

worldly acorn Jan 12, 2026, 2:40 AM

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raven halo how do yall separate your level editor from production builds?

I don't have an editor froge_love hope that helps

prisma otter Jan 12, 2026, 2:41 AM

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Also you may want to be using the editor in release mode, for performance reasons

#

Nothing more annoying than a slow editor

worldly acorn Jan 12, 2026, 2:50 AM

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If you're a mad scientist you can probably set your build up to compile core engine systems in release mode while leaving gameplay code in debug mode for development

raven halo Jan 12, 2026, 2:52 AM

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prisma otter No reason to remove it

save a few kb of code and fonts

prisma otter Jan 12, 2026, 2:53 AM

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Up to you but that doesn't seem worth it to me

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Just leave it in with a command line switch or something

raven halo Jan 12, 2026, 2:54 AM

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sure

raven halo Jan 12, 2026, 4:41 AM

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man I cannot get imgui menus to work

#

if (ImGui::BeginMenuBar())
        {
            if (ImGui::BeginMenu("File"))
            {
                if (ImGui::MenuItem("Open..."))
                {
                    std::cout << "0";
                }
                ImGui::Separator();
                ImGui::MenuItem("Save");
                ImGui::MenuItem("Save as...");
                ImGui::EndMenu();
            }
            ImGui::EndMenuBar();
        }

#

afaik something should be happening when I press that menu item but nothing is

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actually it seems to print all the 0s when the program closes 🤔

dull osprey Jan 12, 2026, 4:58 AM

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do you need to flush

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is that actually stdout

#

try a new line

#

are you using SDL?

#

it has SDL_Log

raven halo Jan 12, 2026, 5:03 AM

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well ive also tried using imgui functonality in that if statement and nothing seems to happen

prisma otter Jan 12, 2026, 5:07 AM

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raven halo actually it seems to print all the 0s when the program closes 🤔

yeah it sounds like you need to flush

#

put a breakpoint in there and see if it gets hit

raven halo Jan 12, 2026, 5:15 AM

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breakpoint? ha ha

dull osprey Jan 12, 2026, 5:15 AM

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how are you opening windows?

raven halo Jan 12, 2026, 5:17 AM

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dull osprey how are you opening windows?

idk what you maen

dull osprey Jan 12, 2026, 5:18 AM

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I don't know how to say that any different :/

#

on win32 you can use WinMain, with SDLyou create a window, you know

raven halo Jan 12, 2026, 5:18 AM

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I use ImGui::Begin()

dull osprey Jan 12, 2026, 5:18 AM

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no I don't mean imgui

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I mean the application window

raven halo Jan 12, 2026, 5:18 AM

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ah yeah I use sdl

dull osprey Jan 12, 2026, 5:18 AM

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oh ok

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so SDL_TriggerBreakPoint();

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SDL_Log();

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you get those

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are you using SDL3?

raven halo Jan 12, 2026, 5:19 AM

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yeah

dull osprey Jan 12, 2026, 5:19 AM

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great

#

they handle all this stuff for you

raven halo Jan 12, 2026, 5:20 AM

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raven halo breakpoint? ha ha

well I said that because I dont have any debugging tools setup lol

dull osprey Jan 12, 2026, 5:20 AM

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you don't have gdb?

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maybe lldb?

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sudo apt-get build-essentials or whatever that is for your distro will get you all that stuff

raven halo Jan 12, 2026, 5:22 AM

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dull osprey you don't have gdb?

oh ig i do

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gotta figure out how to use it

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all this so I can show an imgui menu

raven halo Jan 12, 2026, 5:45 AM

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ah it appears the popup id is popped out of the stack along with the menu

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I'll need an explicit id

prisma otter Jan 12, 2026, 5:51 AM

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raven halo well I said that because I dont have any debugging tools setup lol

I dunno how you are surviving without a debugger lmao

raven halo Jan 12, 2026, 5:52 AM

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not having bugs

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i should probably pimp my gui code out into functions before I spaghettiefy the editor

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how cursed is using std::optional<std::filesystem::path> to represent the current file being edited

prisma otter Jan 12, 2026, 6:07 AM

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literally not cursed at all

raven halo Jan 12, 2026, 6:13 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/lebron-dunk-lebron-james-levronjame-gif-1038771198631298897

Tenor

keen forge Jan 12, 2026, 12:11 PM

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raven halo ```c++ if (ImGui::BeginMenuBar()) { if (ImGui::BeginMenu("Fi...

you need a mainmenubar too, check imgui_demo.cpp

raven halo Jan 12, 2026, 2:02 PM

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keen forge you need a mainmenubar too, check imgui_demo.cpp

i think thats for the parent window

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which i dont want

keen forge Jan 12, 2026, 2:02 PM

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then you asked the wrong question again

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but check demo.cpp anyway and be on the right branch docking

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i believe multiwindow is merged into that one, if thats what you want to do?

raven halo Jan 12, 2026, 2:17 PM

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I'm not using any docking or multiviewport features at the moment

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i only have one window with no desire for it to have a main menu bar

keen forge Jan 12, 2026, 2:27 PM

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then what are you actually trying to make

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if you want a typical "File" "Edit" etc menu bar then you need that mainmenubar thing

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like jake has in aso editor

raven halo Jan 12, 2026, 2:45 PM

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keen forge if you want a typical "File" "Edit" etc menu bar then you need that mainmenubar ...

right now the imgui editor is constrained to one imgui window, so the menu bar being in that window is fine

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mainmanubar would put the menu bar on the sdl window

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this crap is so precarious to word

prisma otter Jan 12, 2026, 3:30 PM

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I think the imgui part is working but grubbi doesn't have a debugger so is getting confused

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Get your debugger working lmao

raven halo Jan 12, 2026, 3:40 PM

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any recommendations?

prisma otter Jan 12, 2026, 3:41 PM

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What ide are you using? It should just work

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Like I assume you have lldb or gdb installed

raven halo Jan 12, 2026, 3:42 PM

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vsvodium

prisma otter Jan 12, 2026, 3:42 PM

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I assume you are using an extremely jank ide since that should work out of the box

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Maybe you need some plugin?

raven halo Jan 12, 2026, 3:43 PM

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probably

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i will say visual studio had great debugging

prisma otter Jan 12, 2026, 3:44 PM

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Yeah it was good

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One thing I miss that it had was natvis files

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Made it much nicer to look at stdlib types

keen forge Jan 12, 2026, 3:52 PM

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raven halo right now the imgui editor is constrained to one imgui window, so the menu bar b...

ah 🙂 i see

raven halo Jan 12, 2026, 4:53 PM

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keen forge ah 🙂 i see

yeah sorry for the miscommunication lol

raven halo Jan 13, 2026, 2:47 AM

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this was the meme i saw several years ago that inspired me to create "Defend Your Home from the HOA" on roblox

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and i think its a decent premise for this first game i make

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remember your roots

raven halo Jan 13, 2026, 3:40 AM

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anyways heres a demo of the level editor thus far

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i wonder if I should come up with an extension for level files since I use my own format

prisma otter Jan 13, 2026, 3:53 AM

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wait you place using the character?

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why not place with the mouse?

raven halo Jan 13, 2026, 3:59 AM

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im lazy

prisma otter Jan 13, 2026, 4:03 AM

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The beauty of editor tools is that, the more effort you put in now, the lazier you can be in the future smart

raven halo Jan 13, 2026, 4:07 AM

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i definitely need to work on safety features first

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problems ive identified so far:
-user is not notified if opening a file fails
-user is not notified if creating a file fails (due to existing file with same name)
-user is not warned of unsaved changes if opening a new file
-user is not warned of unsaved changes if closing the program

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the last two I'll probably tackle while I implement editing history, which will also give me undo/redo powers

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first two are fixed

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oh, and it probably shouldn't segfault if i open a file

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that'd be cool

raven halo Jan 13, 2026, 4:46 AM

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all fixed

raven halo Jan 13, 2026, 5:21 AM

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next I wanna add undo/redo

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automatic backup creations like blender does

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why the reactions

worldly acorn Jan 13, 2026, 5:22 AM

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Undo/redo is quite nontrivial

prisma otter Jan 13, 2026, 5:22 AM

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Undo and redo is a massive can of worms

raven halo Jan 13, 2026, 5:23 AM

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i already have a vector of edit history that will probably get several gigs long

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i should put it to good use

prisma otter Jan 13, 2026, 5:23 AM

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It seems simple now

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but as your editor gets more complicated there will be...

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edge cases

raven halo Jan 13, 2026, 5:23 AM

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do you think undo only would be any simpler?

prisma otter Jan 13, 2026, 5:24 AM

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Undo is not easy

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I'm just saying its something you could end up spending a long time on

raven halo Jan 13, 2026, 5:24 AM

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interesting

prisma otter Jan 13, 2026, 5:25 AM

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so be prepared and don't get discouraged

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don't let it derail you

raven halo Jan 13, 2026, 5:25 AM

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maybe i wont then lol

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im just trying to idiot proof this as much as possible

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i think my level file format will be called ghxl

worldly acorn Jan 13, 2026, 5:28 AM

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The sanest way I've heard to do undo/redo is to have every control/UI interaction be represented by a command struct that can be rolled forward or back to reconstruct the world state at every point

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But even then that's not easy if you do something like delete an entity that has a bunch of sub components and need to be able to roll it back

raven halo Jan 13, 2026, 5:28 AM

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lol

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dont have super high expectations for this level editor btw

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i just want something rudimentary

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a step above level editing via a hex editor

prisma otter Jan 13, 2026, 5:34 AM

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I haven't implemented mine yet, but I decided to do it by just serializing the entire map after every operation KEKW

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its dumb, but it should be pretty reliable

dry basalt Jan 13, 2026, 5:35 AM

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you could also maybe not reimplement a level editor - create a importer for tiled or ldtk

prisma otter Jan 13, 2026, 5:36 AM

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Has anyone actually made a game that uses tiled? everyone keeps talking about it but nobody seriously seems to use it

raven halo Jan 13, 2026, 5:37 AM

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dry basalt you could also maybe not reimplement a level editor - create a importer for tile...

theres less chest hair with that choice

prisma otter Jan 13, 2026, 5:37 AM

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I think a level editor is something you should really write yourself

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Since you are writing the game you already have half of it already

raven halo Jan 13, 2026, 5:38 AM

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prisma otter I haven't implemented mine yet, but I decided to do it by just serializing the e...

yeah but "operation" implies you can at least do stuff like insert and move around assets, which by my defenition, is an editor

prisma otter Jan 13, 2026, 5:38 AM

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I mean my undo

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I have an editor

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you have seen it on stream

raven halo Jan 13, 2026, 5:38 AM

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oh okay

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apparently Cave Story was made with no level editor

prisma otter Jan 13, 2026, 5:39 AM

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that sounds like pain

raven halo Jan 13, 2026, 5:39 AM

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i have no idea what hell that man put himself through because he didnt write an editor

prisma otter Jan 13, 2026, 5:39 AM

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like was he writing it in a hex editor?

raven halo Jan 13, 2026, 5:40 AM

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no clue

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he DID make the music creation software he used for all his games

dry basalt Jan 13, 2026, 5:41 AM

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prisma otter Has anyone actually made a game that uses tiled? everyone keeps talking about it...

from what i can see, mostly small indie or game jam games

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ldtk (from my experience at least) is very good tho, and comes from dead cells

raven halo Jan 13, 2026, 5:41 AM

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raven halo he DID make the music creation software he used for all his games

without knowing music theory. We'll never be him

prisma otter Jan 13, 2026, 5:41 AM

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You could simply learn the theory

raven halo Jan 13, 2026, 5:42 AM

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i already have

prisma otter Jan 13, 2026, 5:43 AM

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Ok so you will be him

raven halo Jan 13, 2026, 5:48 AM

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perchance

dry basalt Jan 13, 2026, 5:49 AM

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raven halo

also this gives VVVVVV vibes for some reason

raven halo Jan 13, 2026, 6:13 AM

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never played

raven halo Jan 14, 2026, 2:39 AM

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i wonder if i should add a basic compression algo or worry about it later

worldly acorn Jan 14, 2026, 2:57 AM

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Nah

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You can always do it later

hushed crescent Jan 14, 2026, 3:00 AM

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very interesting phrasing

raven halo Jan 14, 2026, 3:01 AM

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yeah i have no clue what you mean lol

worldly acorn Jan 14, 2026, 3:01 AM

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Lol sorry I'm listening to something at the same time as texting

hushed crescent Jan 14, 2026, 3:01 AM

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I assume you mean you can always do it later

worldly acorn Jan 14, 2026, 3:01 AM

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Always*

hushed crescent Jan 14, 2026, 3:01 AM

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which is true

raven halo Jan 14, 2026, 3:01 AM

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hopefully some vibraphone jazz

worldly acorn Jan 14, 2026, 3:01 AM

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No Rupert Lowe interview

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I can't type and listen to words at the same time

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Autocorrect makes it worse

raven halo Jan 14, 2026, 3:02 AM

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ah yeah

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no clue who that is

worldly acorn Jan 14, 2026, 3:02 AM

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dw about it

raven halo Jan 14, 2026, 3:03 AM

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im not lol

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im worried about a visual error

hushed crescent Jan 14, 2026, 3:03 AM

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I don't think compression would help that

raven halo Jan 14, 2026, 3:03 AM

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no this is a separate topic

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a line appears under the dude sometimes

hushed crescent Jan 14, 2026, 3:04 AM

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I think that's fp error with the UVs, give a little padding in the texture

raven halo Jan 14, 2026, 3:05 AM

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oh yeah absolutely

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i was just about to say how I thought that was the case but setting clamp to edge didn't fix the issue

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however, it doesn't look like I ever actually set clamp to edge?

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oh I did but only in one function

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i appear to have a createTexture() and loadTexture()

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odd

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fixed now

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alright I want an automatic backup system

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so I think ill have a ghxl1 (like blend1) that changes are automatically saved to every 10 or so edits

raven halo Jan 14, 2026, 3:37 AM

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done

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hmm

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i cant imagine naming both a struct and the namespace its in a is good idea

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namespace Level
{

struct Level
{
  // ...
};

}

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Maybe the namespace could be called LevelUtils? But imo that undersells its integrality and makes it sound optional

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namespace YouNeedThisForLevels is a bit long

raven halo Jan 14, 2026, 2:33 PM

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thoughts?

prisma otter Jan 14, 2026, 3:48 PM

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You don't need the namespace

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You can put static functions in the level struct

raven halo Jan 14, 2026, 6:09 PM

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anyways i got bored and wanted to install arch on my pi zero 2 but accidentally did this

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dry basalt Jan 14, 2026, 6:10 PM

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raven halo

yikes

raven halo Jan 14, 2026, 6:11 PM

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fortunately nothing important was on it

dry basalt Jan 14, 2026, 6:13 PM

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my pi 4 can do usb boot, could you do that with a zero 2?

raven halo Jan 14, 2026, 6:15 PM

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i think thats a lot to ask for considering the only io is a single micro usb

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I'm sure i could get something working but ill just buy another card

raven halo Jan 15, 2026, 2:22 AM

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anyways funny story

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i fell asleep listening to music last night and woke up at 5 or 6 am, and at that point autoplay had taken over

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playing this absolute banger https://youtu.be/xz5sJbAhp0U

YouTube

Reservoir Recordings

Spyro Gyra - Dancing On Table Mountain

Reservoir Recordings is a label division under award-winning independent music company Reservoir. The division markets and distributes a variety of the Company’s recorded assets, including labels such as Philly Groove Records, Amherst Records, AVCO Records, Jamdown Records, and Easy Street Records, as well as recorded music from artists includ...

▶ Play video

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this is one of the best sounding snare drums ive heard in my life

worldly acorn Jan 15, 2026, 2:35 AM

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Neat album art

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I woke up at 3am from a fever nightmare froge_love I would have preferred to wake up to this

raven halo Jan 15, 2026, 2:44 AM

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rip

raven halo Jan 15, 2026, 3:09 AM

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fever dreams are awesome but I'm terrified to imagine what a fever nightmare is like

worldly acorn Jan 15, 2026, 3:11 AM

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I dreamed that I had overheated and received brain damage from cooking my brain with the fever and was screaming for help but could barely hear myself or orient myself since my senses were all confused

raven halo Jan 15, 2026, 3:11 AM

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must be bc of the spinal injury

worldly acorn Jan 15, 2026, 3:12 AM

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I think it was because I fell asleep wearing the hood of my sweatshirt

raven halo Jan 15, 2026, 3:12 AM

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ah yeah

worldly acorn Jan 15, 2026, 3:14 AM

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The most exciting fever nightmares I've had preceded vomiting, when you're asleep and on the path towards vomiting your brain comes up with a post hoc explanation for the cause of your nausea

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On 2 occasions I've dreamed of seeing eldritch horrors or looking into hell and the sight immediately causing me to wake up needing to vomit even though most likely I was going to be sick anyways and the dream was just back-explaining why

raven halo Jan 15, 2026, 3:15 AM

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i feel like mine are closer to this

worldly acorn Jan 15, 2026, 3:16 AM

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Lmao cruelty squad flavored fever dreams

raven halo Jan 15, 2026, 3:17 AM

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theres another video i could send but it contains clips of that russian severed dog head experiment which might break the rules

raven halo Jan 15, 2026, 9:58 PM

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I am proud to report that main.cpp has no raw gl calls

hushed crescent Jan 15, 2026, 9:59 PM

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only raw vulkan init calls, right?

prisma otter Jan 15, 2026, 9:59 PM

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Time for 800 lines of render.cpp froge_love

raven halo Jan 15, 2026, 10:01 PM

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prisma otter Time for 800 lines of render.cpp <:froge_love:1105211408255295624>

less than 300 actually

prisma otter Jan 15, 2026, 10:01 PM

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For now

raven halo Jan 15, 2026, 10:01 PM

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this is an unoptimized tile renderer after all

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the editor has all the features I want for now so I guess it's time to add another tile type

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probably a sloped tile

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this looks good https://www.danjb.com/game_dev/tilebased_platformer_slopes_2

raven halo Jan 15, 2026, 11:05 PM

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some weirdness

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std::find_if(result.begin(), result.end(), 
    [](std::vector<int>& v){ return true; } )```

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this doesn't compile. result is an std::vector<std::vector<int>> and for some reason the error is that the iterator type can't be converted to bool

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oh nvm its talking about the function return in my if statement 💀

mystic kettle Jan 15, 2026, 11:14 PM

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Bruh, I went to check cause it seemed completely right to me

raven halo Jan 16, 2026, 1:30 AM

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trying to find something in a 2d list kinda sucks

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especially if you want indices over iterators

raven halo Jan 16, 2026, 2:47 AM

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windows is hell

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spending the last hour installing updates on my nvme?

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Just a moment...

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Just a moment...

dry basalt Jan 16, 2026, 2:49 AM

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raven halo windows is hell

install linux

raven halo Jan 16, 2026, 2:50 AM

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dry basalt install linux

already my main driver

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i think i just accidentally bricked my windows install so I'm gonna delete the partition and install windows to my other tiny ssd

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ill probably have to physically remove the main drive tho bc the windows installer cant seem to comprehend the existence of multiple drives

dry basalt Jan 16, 2026, 2:59 AM

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raven halo already my main driver

delete windows

raven halo Jan 16, 2026, 3:32 AM

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doing all this wild stuff without making a single backup

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oh its a glorious sight to see

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kinda disturbing that grub still reports finding windows

dry basalt Jan 16, 2026, 3:46 AM

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raven halo kinda disturbing that grub still reports finding windows

Grub just has what's in its config

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If you run something along the lines of "grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg" it should remove the windows entry as it rescans the operating systems

raven halo Jan 16, 2026, 3:49 AM

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well, its finding the windows boot manager

dry basalt Jan 16, 2026, 3:50 AM

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You can probably just remove the /boot/efi/Microsoft folder?

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And use efibootmgr to remove the entry from your bios

raven halo Jan 16, 2026, 3:51 AM

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dry basalt And use efibootmgr to remove the entry from your bios

thats the thing, I did, and it keeps coming back bleakekw

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this is the closest thing to a virus ive ever had

keen forge Jan 16, 2026, 11:10 AM

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that always reminds me when i update uefi keys, because those involved strings always have "KEK" (key exchange key) in it

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uefi people know their memes

raven halo Jan 16, 2026, 2:15 PM

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right

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i need an exorcist

raven halo Jan 16, 2026, 11:49 PM

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pain programming slopes

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i think the problem is with the collision detection

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yup\

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for some reason my algo isn't detecting a tile unless the player's top is under the tile's bottom

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and its somehow not an issue with the aabb vs aabb algo

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well whenever im no longer too tired too look at code ill finally setup a debugger and figure out why

keen forge Jan 17, 2026, 12:07 AM

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i wonder if you could use box2d

raven halo Jan 17, 2026, 12:12 AM

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I'm terribly uninterested in using third party physics

prisma otter Jan 17, 2026, 12:23 AM

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probably not necessary unless you need full rigidbody physics

worldly acorn Jan 17, 2026, 12:29 AM

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yeah I was about to say for this kind of game you probably don't need full blown physics

keen forge Jan 17, 2026, 1:41 AM

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yes, yes

raven halo Jan 17, 2026, 5:24 AM

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welp i went thru the painful process of installing windows again

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its now on my extra sata drive

keen forge Jan 17, 2026, 10:44 AM

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to be able to implement slopes? 🙂

raven halo Jan 17, 2026, 2:12 PM

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no

raven halo Jan 17, 2026, 2:50 PM

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man gdb really giving it to me straight

raven halo Jan 17, 2026, 3:46 PM

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raven halo Jan 19, 2026, 4:20 AM

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raven halo Jan 19, 2026, 4:55 AM

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this code im writing sucks

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horizontal collision spaghetti code

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just to fix one bug

prisma otter Jan 19, 2026, 9:19 AM

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raven halo horizontal collision spaghetti code

It's OK it can't be that bad. Get it done then come back later once you understand it better and refactor it

raven halo Jan 19, 2026, 5:37 PM

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deccer skincolor dox

raven halo Jan 20, 2026, 5:33 AM

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i have just seen 2001: A Space Odyssey

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https://tenor.com/view/sonfys-gif-2540652325955471116

Tenor

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ridiculously ahead of its time

worldly acorn Jan 20, 2026, 5:43 AM

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Some people find it boring but I think it's great

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Like yeah it's slow, but that's part of why it's cool

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You don't need to be some 400IQ philosopher film critic to appreciate it, if anything it's tapping into very basic emotions

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It just requires patience to pay attention to, it's not something you throw on for a quick movie night

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The ending is weird I have zero idea what it means and I don't really care

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When I watched it with my friend it didn't bother me that I didn't understand the ending, whereas it made him furious lmao

raven halo Jan 20, 2026, 6:03 AM

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worldly acorn The ending is weird I have zero idea what it means and I don't really care

evangelion for star wars fans

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i really love media with endings that are impossible to understand

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like a plot twist but the twist is that you're stupid

worldly acorn Jan 20, 2026, 6:21 AM

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How would you end a movie like that anyways

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I'm sure there are a variety of ways but endings are overrated

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Requiring every story to have a concrete Hollywood ending is an unnecessary limitation

raven halo Jan 20, 2026, 6:25 AM

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yeah

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i loved how the movie started with 2 minutes of a black screen too

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apparently they predicted the neccesity of dopamine detoxes

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and yeah i wholeheartedly agree that too many movies have far too much diologue, especially unnaturally sounding millenial slop diologue

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games too by extension

raven halo Jan 20, 2026, 6:29 AM

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raven halo i really love media with endings that are impossible to understand

I guess that's postmodern art? idk too much about art

worldly acorn Jan 20, 2026, 6:35 AM

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Having no dialogue for the first 30 min is neat too

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Like I wouldn't want every movie to be like this but as a novel experience it's excellent

prisma otter Jan 20, 2026, 6:44 AM

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raven halo i have just seen 2001: A Space Odyssey

One of my favourite films, I have it on laserdisc

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The effects are so good

raven halo Jan 20, 2026, 2:05 PM

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yeah

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I highly recommend 12 Angry Men

mystic kettle Jan 20, 2026, 3:53 PM

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Peak kino mentioned

raven halo Jan 20, 2026, 4:02 PM

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mystic kettle Peak kino mentioned

i do not understand

keen forge Jan 20, 2026, 4:07 PM

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kino is a cool russian band

raven halo Jan 20, 2026, 4:10 PM

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i know that, but when was it referenced lol

hushed crescent Jan 20, 2026, 4:13 PM

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it just means a really good/cinematic movie

raven halo Jan 20, 2026, 4:14 PM

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oh sick

mystic kettle Jan 20, 2026, 4:30 PM

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keen forge kino is a cool russian band

"Kino" is "cinema" in a some post soviet countries

keen forge Jan 20, 2026, 4:36 PM

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mystic kettle "Kino" is "cinema" in a some post soviet countries

that was given, didnt know grubbi lacked that much of information hehe

prisma otter Jan 20, 2026, 5:20 PM

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Isn't Kino also Cinema in german?

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@raven halo Have you seen Lawrence of Arabia?

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Since you managed to sit through 2001, I think you can handle it now

worldly acorn Jan 20, 2026, 5:37 PM

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Also Ben Hur, must-see

raven halo Jan 20, 2026, 9:44 PM

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both added to the list

raven halo Jan 20, 2026, 9:45 PM

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keen forge that was given, didnt know grubbi lacked that much of information hehe

yeah I know zero things about other languages

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except spanish unfortunately

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i think ive said it before but Heat is a favorite of mine @worldly acorn @prisma otter

worldly acorn Jan 20, 2026, 9:49 PM

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I've only seen the bank scene I should watch the whole thing

worldly acorn Jan 20, 2026, 9:49 PM

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raven halo both added to the list

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