GrubStomper29's OpenGL Sandbox

[gilded shell]

i mustve posted this video here a dozen times but the drum tune is still astounding

[gilded shell]

after some years of service my beats studio buds are starting to fall apart

mostly my fault since i drop them on hard floors all the time

which is unfortunate because id love whatever i replace them with to be white but white scuffs too easily

I gotta invent scratch proof white plastic

I really like sennheiser headphones so I'm sure their buds are great but the difference between a model with and without active noise canceling is like $90

is it really that expensive?

[plain mantle]

Do you need active noise cancelling?

[gilded shell]

i would say so

[gilded shell]

if I make a game about a frog i would have to call it Green Hour

whay do you guys think about that

[plain mantle]

I think we would all love that

[gilded shell]

Diasuke Amaya worked on a game called Pink Hour and it reminds me of the "finest hour" term

so Green Hour sounds nice

[gilded shell]

I believe I have fixed rsm but its still much darker than before it broke

here's irradiance, looks weird

Even though the code seems identical to what I had before

lovely

[junior sparrow]

absolute classic

[gilded shell]

yeah im at a loss at what to do

maybe my light direction is cancer

[junior sparrow]

[gilded shell]

First day of college

i think i wont be needing a laptop for now but I imagine i will once cs classes start

i wonder how powerful of a laptop i would need

[junior sparrow]

I will be buying a macbook Air m4
I am not a huge apple fan but it's the best what you can get

[gilded shell]

mac os for computer science?

better hope you dont have to actually code

iirc you have to sign up to some apple thing to access C++ compilers

[junior sparrow]

Nah we have to code

At worst I will have to remotely connect the desktop at home

I just need something that survives being plugged into life support and is 13"

You are basically left with MacBooks...

[plain mantle]

I don't know what things are like now, but I certainly wasn't expected to code in class on my own laptop when I went to uni

Maybe they don't have computer labs anymore

[gilded shell]

if I have to buy a laptop soon itll probably be a $200 web surfer

[plain mantle]

Tests were done writing code on paper, which I thought was stupid at the time. But in retrospect I agree with it fully

[echo token]

I got a lenovo thiccpad for college

[gilded shell]

i want to hold off on it since i need to transfer to a uni for graduate classes anyways

[echo token]

I still use it and love it

did you take your desktop to college with you?

[plain mantle]

I really hope so

[echo token]

I didn't take mine and that was the right move tbh

[plain mantle]

Otherwise he can't bikeshed

I took mine lol

[echo token]

lenovo thinkpads are pretty solid and I could do anything I wanted, didn't play too many games though

[plain mantle]

I dunno maybe 2014 was a different time 💀

[echo token]

even more people take their desktops now but being antisocial is an epidemic

covid hit right as I was graduating so idk how bad it is now

[gilded shell]

i think when i do go to uni i will take my desktop

[plain mantle]

Are you living in residence? Or off campus?

[gilded shell]

im attending community for undergrads right now so im still home

[echo token]

you should just get a mid grade laptop if you live on campus, enough to do whatever you need programming wise but not to get sucked into the draw of sitting at your battlestation

[gilded shell]

yeah

ill probably look at refurbished

i hate laptops so no need to spend $1000 on something ill use sparingly for 4 years

[echo token]

I don't take mine anywhere since college but I like having it next to my desktop

since it dual boots linux I basically only ever use it in linux

[gilded shell]

my home desk is not physically large enough for that 💀

[plain mantle]

I use an MS surface when I'm not at the desktop

[echo token]

I have a big L made out of 2 desks, and it's got 2 monitors from my desktop, my laptop, + my work laptop and another monitor for that

• a littering of other stuff

[gilded shell]

this isnt it

i have yet to debug the cpp side but im not sure what about it could be causing this

there are also these bright spots in corners

I think its somewhat fixed

I just needed to mess with parameters

rMax just needs to be rediculously high

I NEED to replicate this or i wont be happy

[plain mantle]

You will exceed it im sure

[gilded shell]

im just back to not understanding why everything is so dark

[plain mantle]

Multiply by pi

[gilded shell]

i just realized im not doing gamma correction in my shadow shaders. Not the problem, but I should probably do something about that

actually, even without rsm everything is still pretty dark

i wonder if theres some srgb error somewhere

I think it is! If I just output the pre-lit color, it's extremely dark. What's causing this?

ill have to look into this

[plain mantle]

did you glEnable(GL_FRAMEBUFFER_SRGB);?

also check your textures are using an sRGB format

[gilded shell]

yes and i manually decode textures

[plain mantle]

Manually decoding textures is a bit sus but OK

[gilded shell]

i cent remenber exactly why

probably more oit legacy junk

i think this is somehow related to framebuffer shenanigans though

especially since thats really all thats been changed between now and the working rsm

[haughty shoal]

what does manual decode textures mean?

where are you doing that?

are you storing the textures in an uncompressed format?

[gilded shell]

ig the right word is conversion

when i run my shaders i convert the textures from regular to srgb

[gilded shell]

i dont do this for fxaa since i dont use srgb in that at all

i replaced fxaa with a blit and nothing changes so imagine thats fine and dandy but i could be wrong

something i wanna test is just output rgb(1, 0, 0) from my lighting pass; the results could easily confirm somethings wrong with framebuffers

[plain mantle]

Try 1.0, 0.0 & 0.5

1.0 and 0.0 are the same regardless of srgb

[haughty shoal]

oh that's not that unusual

[plain mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/tomjones-itsnotunusual-gif-21382061

[haughty shoal]

I don't understand 😅

ohhhh

it's that song

now I can hear it

I like that song

[gilded shell]

minecraft credits poem is awesome

[gilded shell]

heres 0.5

uh

0.5 converted from linear to srgb, then written with gl_srgb enabled

so effectively linear 0.5

and heres 1.0

and heres the color of some random internet rgb slider up halfway, assuming its linear as well

[gilded shell]

seems noticibly brighter than this, but my methods are admittedly questionable

it would be awesome if i had a working debugger...

[gilded shell]

and heres a very FASCINATING shade of RED

if I bind framebuffer 0 instead of the aa staging fb, the darkness issues go away

perhaps my fb format doesnt support srgb writes

yeah thats the problem

solved!

were back

[gilded shell]

heres fxaa

i think i need to tweak some parameters

they're about as good as I can get them

welp 🙂

here's GrubStomper29's OpenGL Sandbox

Let me spend the next few days cleaning up a bit then the project will be finished for now

[gilded shell]

by the way, I recently saw a Southern Leopard Frog swimming in a pool so I think he's gonna be our little protagonist

[plain mantle]

It's beautiful

[plain mantle]

How does it differ from the Northern leopard frog?

thats the kind we have around here

[gilded shell]

in a few ways

most obvious one is that the southern has a white dot on its ear drum

[gilded shell]

nvm i underestimated how much homework id have on day 2 of college

[kind sparrow]

Yep

Welcome to the last 80% of your education, compressed into 4 years

[west trail]

Last 80%? Don't you have like university after that

[kind sparrow]

Same thing

[plain mantle]

It's OK grubbi, you will breeze through the homework

[gilded shell]

I better

my college accounts are all locked down like fort knox

im already being driven insane by the constant 2 factor authentication each time

and having to login again whenever i close my browser

[plain mantle]

Just wait until you work as an actual software engineer, it gets even worse

[haughty shoal]

it's not at startups until we start "maturing" or "moving up market" as they say

it starts with everyone has access to everything and there are no rules

well we always had 2 factor because that's just smart to do

I use 2 factor for my personal accounts also

[gilded shell]

well im fine with 2 factor

but 2 factor 10 times within the hour on the same device is rediculous

especially when said device is my phone, which houses the mechanism used to perform the authentication

[haughty shoal]

yeah

I only have to do that with critical production access

and it is reasonable in that case to always ask for it

[gilded shell]

perchance

[gilded shell]

Code is cleaned and pushed to github

yall can play a bit if youd like

I also finalized the readme

So unless you guys have readme criticism or a terrible bug, this project is officially temporarily permanently finished!

[plain mantle]

I'll give it a look

The screenshots look genuinely quite good

[gilded shell]

it gets a lil nasty when you take a closer look

[plain mantle]

Well yeah, you aren't using glorious MSAA, so there is a limit to the quality

[gilded shell]

if youre running a more powerful gpu than my 3050 you can turn up the rsm samples to 300-500

you gotta do that in the lighting.frag shader

just a global var named "samples"

[plain mantle]

Would love to see LPV. But I take it you wanna be done with the project

You wanna make frog games

[gilded shell]

yeah

i wanna come back someday, rewrite it all

probably follow the age old opengl tradition of switching to vulkan

[plain mantle]

What about frog game

Whats the plan for that?

What kinda environments are you thinking about?

[gilded shell]

daxa vk abstraction and entt

GameCube style graphics

funny gameplay idea i don't care to explain rn

[plain mantle]

EnTT is very sick

[gilded shell]

in not sure what the level would be

[plain mantle]

People think they need an engine, all they need is ImGui + EnTT

[gilded shell]

torn between pool and jungle

i think id enjoy making the game take place at a pool more

[plain mantle]

I see dead frogs on the road in Ontario all the time 😭

So not the road

[gilded shell]

final boss is a steam roller

long story

[plain mantle]

Would love to see a frog defeat a steam roller

[gilded shell]

but there are thousands and thousands of dead baby frogs paved beneath my neighborhood road

[plain mantle]

Music is DMB style jamband music?

[gilded shell]

no clue

[plain mantle]

You should make the music yourself

I know you can do it

[gilded shell]

alright I'll make a single track

[plain mantle]

Then another after that 😉

[gilded shell]

i wonder how you go about making acoustic sounding stuff from a daw piano roll

i know for drums you have to drop $100-300 on a vst

[plain mantle]

Keyzone classic vst is what I use

[gilded shell]

did you do that yet?

[plain mantle]

No lol, that was late last night

[gilded shell]

oh okay

[gilded shell]

im not exactly breezing thru the homework but I think i've made a lot of progress today

I'll read a chaptor of my bio textbook and be done for the day

[plain mantle]

what are you studying now?

Maybe the math stuff can be difficult

Are you taking linear algebra?

[gilded shell]

i dont wanna ring my own bell but im awesome at math

i dont have that this semester though since they wanted to wait on my ap calc score

i have english, communications, health, and bio

[junior sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/cillianmurphygun-cillianmurphy-jazmincoded-gif-3811002643797340103

[plain mantle]

Oh I had assumed you were mostly doing Math & Programming stuff, with one or two electives

That was my first year Uni experience at least

I had like Calculus, Discrete Math & Linear Algebra

[gilded shell]

nah

[gilded shell]

I think I should seriously consider engineering as a job

i dont have much doubt for graphics programming, but i think engineering is something i would be pretty good at

making bridges sounds fun

[plain mantle]

If you decide to do an engineering degree you don't usually need to decide which discipline to go into until year 2

The tech industry looks like it might be about to implode so building bridges might be a good call

[echo token]

yeah civil also seems like the best kind

afaik the market is pretty rough for basically every other kind

[gilded shell]

lol

I'll make a bridge that can hold 1 lb with a safety factor of 200,000

[gilded shell]

alright guys time to learn cmake

[plain mantle]

I still haven't learned it

[gilded shell]

whats your build system?

[plain mantle]

Msbuild for ASO

At work its something so unspeakably jank I dare not mention it

[gilded shell]

ah i see

Alright guys time to move https://discord.com/channels/318590007881236480/1409688484675063829