OpenGL CMake Template (glfw+glad+glm+imgui+spdlog+tracy+cgltf+stb_image) | Graphics Programming | Page 2

brittle verge Nov 10, 2023, 12:53 AM

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ah oof

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being able to reuse the explanations and some of the code would reduce the work a lot I think

hazy anchor Nov 10, 2023, 12:55 AM

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yeah

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absolutely

unkempt ridge Nov 10, 2023, 1:02 AM

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LearnOpenGL: Remastered?

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LearnOpenGL: Definitive Edition?

hazy anchor Nov 10, 2023, 1:03 AM

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heh

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both perhaps

unkempt ridge Nov 10, 2023, 1:11 AM

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ok

brittle verge Nov 10, 2023, 1:13 AM

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2learn2opengl

unkempt ridge Nov 10, 2023, 1:15 AM

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i turned off ublock

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hazy anchor Nov 10, 2023, 1:16 AM

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cool

brittle verge Nov 10, 2023, 1:20 AM

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I did as well when I visited from my phone

hazy anchor Nov 10, 2023, 1:24 AM

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i noticed

fast kite Nov 10, 2023, 1:25 AM

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learnopengl2 is actually happening wtf

hazy anchor Nov 10, 2023, 1:25 AM

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accumulation seems to take time for some reason, i see italy and israel, but not us recent viewers (us, de and sg)

brittle verge Nov 10, 2023, 1:26 AM

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hazy anchor i noticed

what sort of data do you have about me now frogstare

hazy anchor Nov 10, 2023, 1:27 AM

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i can see the city where your internet comes out of the wall (where ISP/vpn has their node) what device you use and which sites you look at

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my location shows another city than i am currently

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every other day its a different city

fast kite Nov 10, 2023, 1:30 AM

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brittle verge what sort of data do you have about me now <:frogstare:1068891129287802910>

doesn't deccer live in the walls with you anyways

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he knows everything already

unkempt ridge Nov 10, 2023, 1:33 AM

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Black on black

hazy anchor Nov 10, 2023, 1:33 AM

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i live under the patio

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yeah it sucks quite a bit

unkempt ridge Nov 10, 2023, 1:33 AM

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i think i can follow LearnOpenGL: Remastered as my ogl is still stuck in 3.3 era

hazy anchor Nov 10, 2023, 1:33 AM

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i thought of drawing my own

unkempt ridge Nov 10, 2023, 1:33 AM

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I sometimes use a bit of DSA from the github post

hazy anchor Nov 10, 2023, 1:35 AM

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perhaps i should alo make up my mind what i actually want to achieve with this thing

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probably a learnopengl lite of sorts

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enought glisms explained to get you started, so that youa re able to write a naive deferred renderer perhaps

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or a pbr modelviewer

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that should cover all sorts of DSA isms, ubo/ssbo and computeisms too

unkempt ridge Nov 10, 2023, 1:36 AM

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that does sound good. kinda like how logl has this section

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ur version can have it be a 3D model viewer

hazy anchor Nov 10, 2023, 1:36 AM

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some proper grouping of things and not willy nilly nonsense like glUniformXy and VAOs

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but InputLayout, and how one can group all the state into Pipelineisms

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no printf/cout too 🙂

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fuck

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almost 3am again

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🇬🇳

fast kite Nov 10, 2023, 10:07 AM

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pls no VAOs

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spare everyone from the pain of managing that garbage

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do vertex pulling only

hazy anchor Nov 10, 2023, 10:12 AM

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ill explain vaos anyway, but not with mentioning "VAO"

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to lube the reader in

fast kite Nov 10, 2023, 10:13 AM

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the explanation: "VAO are legacy bullshit, don't use"

hazy anchor Nov 10, 2023, 10:19 AM

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noobs should still understand them

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in the hellotriangle part

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the whole thing is supposed to be a deterrent for stupid questions in #opengl

olive dew Nov 10, 2023, 10:20 AM

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fast kite do vertex pulling only

You use vertex pulling for everything in GL? Doesn't it have a performance cost?

fast kite Nov 10, 2023, 10:20 AM

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no

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there's a testing thread somewhere in here, zero cost

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there's no reason you shouldn't do vertex pulling

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simpler
no VAO
no bullshit vertex layout thing

olive dew Nov 10, 2023, 10:22 AM

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What I remember from that thread was that vertex pulling was at best as fast, and sometimes a little slower

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Do you do vertex pulling in Vulkan too? No vertex layouts there either?

brittle verge Nov 10, 2023, 10:23 AM

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vulkan has fixed function vertex fetch because it provides some things that manual pulling does not

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namely format conversion

fast kite Nov 10, 2023, 10:25 AM

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olive dew Do you do vertex pulling in Vulkan too? No vertex layouts there either?

I can't even do vertex layouts if I wanted to given I use mesh shaders KEKW

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mesh shaders do not support vertex layouts

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btw it's 4% slower for modern GPUs https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/15-V9RFoxj21PoMrfOyVLAMRN0ekejt6iiimWxyThDvk/edit#gid=0

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And very slow for mobile GPUs

hazy anchor Nov 10, 2023, 10:27 AM

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mobile gpus are out of the picture anyway

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same for consoles

fast kite Nov 10, 2023, 10:28 AM

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Just put a little disclaimer

hazy anchor Nov 10, 2023, 10:28 AM

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what i want is, that people understand that VAO should be called inputlayout

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and that the input layout can be implicit too, since you still describe it in form of struct vertex_t in the vertex shader when you do vertex pulling

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you still need a default vao anyway

brittle verge Nov 10, 2023, 10:33 AM

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VAO:
[ ] vertex
[ ] array
[x] object

hazy anchor Nov 10, 2023, 10:59 AM

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: D

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i wonder what they smoked back then to come up with that name

brittle verge Nov 10, 2023, 11:02 AM

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Khronos started as a room full of monkeys hammering away at typewriters, until one day a young Mark Segal (then working as an intern) found the complete OpenGL 1.0 spec and claimed it as his own

fast kite Nov 10, 2023, 11:03 AM

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Khronos was complete chaos until he returned

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The man who drew the first triangle

brittle verge Nov 10, 2023, 11:03 AM

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It was at that moment he knew they struck mold

fast kite Nov 10, 2023, 11:03 AM

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John Khronos

hazy anchor Nov 10, 2023, 9:25 PM

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just learned that i can include external files

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in me markdown

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```cpp title="Application.hpp"
--8<-- "Shared/Application.hpp:5:10"
```

hazy anchor Nov 10, 2023, 10:57 PM

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I also found a cute froggi icon

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hazy anchor Nov 11, 2023, 2:19 PM

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https://deccer.github.io/OpenGL-Getting-Started/ new version is up

OpenGL - Getting Started

OpenGL Getting Started

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rewordled intro/setup and first half of basic app

brittle verge Nov 11, 2023, 2:20 PM

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Next button frogapprove

hazy anchor Nov 11, 2023, 2:20 PM

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yep that too 🙂

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and froggis

brittle verge Nov 11, 2023, 2:27 PM

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I vaguely recall these flags not being compatible for some reason

GIT_TAG        3.3.8
GIT_SHALLOW    TRUE

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I think I removed all the GIT_SHALLOWisms from my cmake

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Embrace cloning the entire history of the repo agonyfrog

hazy anchor Nov 11, 2023, 2:31 PM

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: )

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i might mention that some people feel their butt getting hurt when using FetchContent and that an alternative could be submodules, to keep the "USE SUBMODULES YOU IMBECILE" people from posting that

brittle verge Nov 11, 2023, 2:34 PM

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I think fetchcontent is probably easier for a tutorial

hazy anchor Nov 11, 2023, 2:34 PM

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it akchually doesnt matter how all the deps are provided

brittle verge Nov 11, 2023, 2:34 PM

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Maybe more can go wrong if you screw up copying cmake though

hazy anchor Nov 11, 2023, 2:34 PM

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there is 0 difference, besides the one or 2 seconds one has to wait for fetchcontent to content the fetch

brittle verge Nov 11, 2023, 2:35 PM

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I mean there's a slight difference in how they're written

hazy anchor Nov 11, 2023, 2:35 PM

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its just add_directory for the latter

brittle verge Nov 11, 2023, 2:35 PM

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Submodule I think is more intuitive and less magic

hazy anchor Nov 11, 2023, 2:36 PM

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thats something the person reading it can figure out later

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doesnt have to be part of a tutorial imho

brittle verge Nov 11, 2023, 2:36 PM

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Yeah it's a bikeshed topic for sure

hazy anchor Nov 11, 2023, 2:36 PM

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but ill mention it anyway

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hehe

brittle verge Nov 11, 2023, 2:36 PM

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Either choice works fine

hazy anchor Nov 11, 2023, 2:36 PM

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ja

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wording is better neh?

hazy anchor Nov 12, 2023, 1:45 PM

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explanation first, then snippet or snippet first then explanation?

brittle verge Nov 12, 2023, 1:46 PM

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I think explanation first

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Prime the reader with a piece of info that they can digest

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Btw that sentence is weird

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I'm going to assume it's lorem ipsum for the purpose of your question

safe egret Nov 12, 2023, 4:58 PM

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@hazy anchor Sorry I couldnt read up on everything in here. Is the project supposed to work out of the box? So just run it in vscode or is there more to it? The includes do not work for me. We could also discuss this in german if you want (I read up to the german conversation here 🙂 ), but I'm not sure, if others will have problems with the clutter in this thread then 😅

hazy anchor Nov 12, 2023, 5:00 PM

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safe egret <@194502965749350400> Sorry I couldnt read up on everything in here. Is the proj...

yes it does

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Deutsch geht auch

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ich hab den thread auch noch fuer ein anderes projekt gehijackt

safe egret Nov 12, 2023, 5:01 PM

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hm... brauch ich noch ne launch file oder sowas in der Richtung? Also im Moment scheint es bei mir die ProjectApplication.hpp nicht zu includen

hazy anchor Nov 12, 2023, 5:01 PM

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also

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lass es uns mal durchspielen per vscode

safe egret Nov 12, 2023, 5:02 PM

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gerne 🙂

hazy anchor Nov 12, 2023, 5:02 PM

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hast du vscode installert? und dazu die extension "CMake Tools"

safe egret Nov 12, 2023, 5:02 PM

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ja

hazy anchor Nov 12, 2023, 5:02 PM

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und du hast s icher das normale vs installiert, gelle?

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(das lilane ding)

safe egret Nov 12, 2023, 5:03 PM

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ich nutze vscode also nein 😅

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dann wird es das sein

hazy anchor Nov 12, 2023, 5:03 PM

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ok du brauchst aber nen compiler digga

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entweder du installierst noch die Visual Studio Build Tools

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oder halt VS komplett fuer c++ 🙂

safe egret Nov 12, 2023, 5:04 PM

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ich hab einen compiler. Ich habe ja einiges schon gerendered bekommen 😅

hazy anchor Nov 12, 2023, 5:04 PM

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eventuell geht auch nochd ieser kack mingw klumpen

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ach dann sicher mingw 😛

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ok der sollte auch funzen

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dann ma weiter im Text... du hast also das repo gekloned mit --recursive hoffentlich, wie in der readme beschrieben?

safe egret Nov 12, 2023, 5:05 PM

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ne bin auf ubuntu unterwegs. Also nutze sonst immer gcc?

hazy anchor Nov 12, 2023, 5:05 PM

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ah

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ubuntu, um so besser

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ich trottel ging von windows aus weil die meisten hier windows user sind

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ok dann is alles gut

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also hast gekloned das ding mit --recursive?

safe egret Nov 12, 2023, 5:05 PM

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ja ist auch einfacher für graphic zeug um ehrlich zu sein 😅

safe egret Nov 12, 2023, 5:06 PM

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hazy anchor also hast gekloned das ding mit --recursive?

ich glaube schon, war n bisschen hastig dabei. Aber ich bin gut darin sowas zu übersehen. Ich probier es nochmal

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ok check, hatte es vorher auch so

hazy anchor Nov 12, 2023, 5:08 PM

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kk

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dann oeffne mal den ordner wo dus reingekloned hast mit vscode

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oder im vscode "ordner oeffnen"

safe egret Nov 12, 2023, 5:08 PM

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offen

hazy anchor Nov 12, 2023, 5:09 PM

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k

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cmake tools installiert?

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und cmake brauchma auch noch

safe egret Nov 12, 2023, 5:09 PM

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safe egret ja

ja

hazy anchor Nov 12, 2023, 5:09 PM

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sudo apt-get install cmake ninja

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kk

safe egret Nov 12, 2023, 5:09 PM

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wie gesagt, schon dinge mit cmake und den ganzen bums hier zum laufen gebracht 😄

hazy anchor Nov 12, 2023, 5:10 PM

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dann drueck ma ctrl+shift+p und such in der liste nach CMake: Delete Dings & Reconfigure

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ah

safe egret Nov 12, 2023, 5:10 PM

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nur vscode brauchte dafür von mir immer ne extra einladung mit tasks und prelaunch kack

hazy anchor Nov 12, 2023, 5:10 PM

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das brauchmer alles ned

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macht cmake fuer uns

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wenn das alles configuriert hat

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guck dir ma unten die status leiste an

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muesste so aehnliuch aussehen

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mi Debug und gcc und Build und [all]

safe egret Nov 12, 2023, 5:11 PM

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oh shit. Ich hätte immer nur cmake "starten" müssen anstand mich mit den vscode launch dreck rumzushclagen?

hazy anchor Nov 12, 2023, 5:11 PM

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und den 2 buttons da, der kaefer und der play button

safe egret Nov 12, 2023, 5:11 PM

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safe egret oh shit. Ich hätte immer nur cmake "starten" müssen anstand mich mit den vscode ...

jo schaut so aus

hazy anchor Nov 12, 2023, 5:11 PM

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dere kaefer started das aktuelle target per debugger 🙂

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und play startets ohne debugger

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gehts jetz oder wie?

safe egret Nov 12, 2023, 5:12 PM

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fml ich habe so viel lebenszeit mal wieder verschwendet. Wenn das bei meinen anderen Projekten auch so geht bin ich dir einfach mal doppelt dankbar 😅

hazy anchor Nov 12, 2023, 5:12 PM

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nice 🙂

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ich hab am anfang auch erst wild f5 gedruekt das er los debuggen soll und das ging natuerlich ned

safe egret Nov 12, 2023, 5:12 PM

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hazy anchor gehts jetz oder wie?

heiß

hazy anchor Nov 12, 2023, 5:12 PM

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sweet

safe egret Nov 12, 2023, 5:13 PM

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hazy anchor ich hab am anfang auch erst wild f5 gedruekt das er los debuggen soll und das gi...

Andere tools binden sich ja doch recht nett ein 😅
Ok, ich habe grade was fürs leben gelernt

hazy anchor Nov 12, 2023, 5:13 PM

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jetzt kannste in ProjectApplication Load() und Render() und Update() alles rausschmeisen was du nicht willst/brauchst

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oder guckst vorher, vorm loeschen

safe egret Nov 12, 2023, 5:13 PM

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mega! danke 🙂

hazy anchor Nov 12, 2023, 5:13 PM

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was fuer dich sinn macht

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texture laden, stbi benutzen oder debug message rausschreiben per spdlog oder so

safe egret Nov 12, 2023, 5:14 PM

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(ich spring auch nochmal in mein altes projekt zurück um mit diesem neuen wissen dinge zu probieren. werde danach aber wahrscheinlich weiter dein Template nutzen. Ich hasse diese ganze aufsetzen geschichte 😭

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riesen dank, dass du dir die zeit genommen hast 🙂

hazy anchor Nov 12, 2023, 5:15 PM

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jo kein ding

safe egret Nov 12, 2023, 5:15 PM

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das ist einfach die imgui demo die da drin schwebt und nicht aufs projekt bezogen oder?

hazy anchor Nov 12, 2023, 5:16 PM

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mich hats auch immer angkotzt

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japp

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~~und ein oder zwei andere ImGui.XXX calls fuers menue,~~ ah das ding hier hat gar kein menu 😄

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Ich bastle grad annem neuen OpenGL Guide, da kommt eins rein

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uebrigens knuffiges Tapir (oder was auch immer das fuern fiech is) baby pfp 😄

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das passt zu deinem namen

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Falls du mal lange Weile haben solltest

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vielleicht kannst Du mal gucken ob man in den vs settings die beiden buttons da unten in der status leiste mitnem keyboard shortcut versehen kann, F5 fuer den kaefer und Alt+F5 fuer den play button

safe egret Nov 12, 2023, 5:44 PM

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jo debug ist sogar standartmäßig ctrl+f5

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und run ist shift+f5

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einfach ctrl+p
keyboard shortcuts
cmake eingeben
und dort sind die ganzen drin.
Aber vscode hat immer eigene präferenzen was es in bestimmten situationen nimmt, das heißt, es kann sein, dass der eigene debug/run modus das überschreibt

hazy anchor Nov 12, 2023, 5:50 PM

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noice

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ich war zu faul bisher zu gucken 😛

safe egret Nov 12, 2023, 5:56 PM

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wo hast du eigentlich diesen call hier in deinem template?

    glDebugMessageCallback(MessageCallback, 0);

hazy anchor Nov 12, 2023, 5:59 PM

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in Application.cpp:124 das ding ist in dem Project.Library ordnerle

hazy anchor Nov 12, 2023, 9:34 PM

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@olive dew https://deccer.github.io/OpenGL-Getting-Started/00-setup/00-setup/ and the next page, does it look like its easier to chew?

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@safe egret du auch, guck ma drueber

olive dew Nov 12, 2023, 9:50 PM

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Yeah definitely

safe egret Nov 13, 2023, 7:53 AM

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hazy anchor <@196376941891158016> du auch, guck ma drueber

you can read more "here"
Aber here ist nicht verlinkt. Wahrscheinlich bezieht es sich auf den link davor, aber dann ist die formulierung komisch

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ansonsten super! 👍

hazy anchor Nov 13, 2023, 10:58 AM

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ah interesting

brittle verge Nov 13, 2023, 11:01 AM

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my friend is a beginner to graphics programming and I linked him this, but I think it was too much 😄

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he was trying to make a project so I suggested cmake instead of vs solutions

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then I showed him this project as an exshrimple

hazy anchor Nov 13, 2023, 11:03 AM

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and what he do? rage quit? 😄

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i started from scratch btw, no tringle yet, only basic window setup, not even Application class or anything

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at least not in the markdownisms

brittle verge Nov 13, 2023, 11:04 AM

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hazy anchor and what he do? rage quit? 😄

nah he's a beginner so it's just too much stuff

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C++ sucks to get started with

hazy anchor Nov 13, 2023, 11:05 AM

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ah fair enough

brittle verge Nov 13, 2023, 11:05 AM

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but I suggested/he figured that following some guides on cmake would be helpful first

hazy anchor Nov 13, 2023, 11:05 AM

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i try to explain cmakeisms too

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could probably be a bit more elaborate

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https://deccer.github.io/OpenGL-Getting-Started/01-basics/01-basic-window/

Basic Window - OpenGL - Getting Started

OpenGL Getting Started

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everything in Main.cpp and 3 cmakelists

brittle verge Nov 13, 2023, 11:07 AM

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oh I'm talking about the cmake template, not the new tutorial

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fyi 😄

hazy anchor Nov 13, 2023, 11:09 AM

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ah

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: )

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if your friend still has feedback besides kwitting, im all ears, perchance it can be massaged into the opengl guide htingy

brittle verge Nov 13, 2023, 11:11 AM

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I think he'll be looking at other stuff first

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I do have one suggestion actually

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making a copy of that project with the cmake, but an empty main.cpp (so just the dependency crap is done)

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a lot of beginners (my friend included) just want to start from scratch without having to fiddle with build systems and dependency bs

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I can do it myself tbh, since it's just deleting stuff 😄

hazy anchor Nov 13, 2023, 11:14 AM

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ah

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I can probably set this up, yeah

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have a branch "bare-minimum" or something, which has the cmake setup and an int main() {} so that you can compile

brittle verge Nov 13, 2023, 11:15 AM

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some of the letters are higher than the others rgbemojiwiggled

hazy anchor Nov 13, 2023, 11:15 AM

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uh

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its not halloween yet

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13th... 31th ... coincidence?

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https://tenor.com/view/oz-gif-22339068

Tenor

brittle verge Nov 13, 2023, 11:16 AM

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I think the font is just weird

hazy anchor Nov 13, 2023, 11:16 AM

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time to switch to linux

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hehe

brittle verge Nov 13, 2023, 11:16 AM

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hazy anchor Nov 13, 2023, 11:17 AM

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aaaaaaaaaah

brittle verge Nov 13, 2023, 11:17 AM

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cursed

hazy anchor Nov 13, 2023, 11:17 AM

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damn, im so stupid

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i did pick a non default font

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but it looks quite funny on your screenshot

brittle verge Nov 13, 2023, 11:17 AM

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did you forget a hyperlink here

hazy anchor Nov 13, 2023, 11:17 AM

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i think so

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hmm it looks different here

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or are my eyes just kaputt?

brittle verge Nov 13, 2023, 11:21 AM

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nope, looks good on yours

hazy anchor Nov 13, 2023, 11:23 AM

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i will change the font to some stock font then, so that it looks the same on all platforms

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it looks neat like that

brittle verge Nov 13, 2023, 11:24 AM

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it's burning my eyes currently agonyfrog

hazy anchor Nov 13, 2023, 11:24 AM

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: D

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font is called Actor

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chanegd it to Roboto

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when you refresh

brittle verge Nov 13, 2023, 11:31 AM

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looks good now

olive dew Nov 13, 2023, 7:03 PM

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We should make a list of intermediate steps to full GP

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Like, if you have x amount of experience with this and that, start here, if you have y amount + decent math start here, etc

hazy anchor Nov 13, 2023, 7:07 PM

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not a bad idea

hazy anchor Nov 13, 2023, 10:53 PM

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https://github.com/deccer/OpenGL-Getting-Started/blob/main/src/01-02-BasicWindowAndTriangle/Main.cpp

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minimum tringle

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now i need to split it up into chunks of explainisms again - ill explain programs, program-pipelines, inputlayout, vb and ib, also debugmessage callback, and also perhaps object labels too, since those are useful for debugging shit - yeah i should renderdoc too here, there are also a few exercises of how to get into finding and fixing issues to prevent getting arrested for opengl crimes

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then introduce the whole Application base thing

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then textures

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then camera, which means ubo - i thought of also adding dear imgui here, so that you can click different camera types perhaps and get lubed in for imgui altogether already

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so that you can fly around the tringle - perhaps here also show how to deal with multiple inputlayouts, because thats what the noobs never understand either

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then models

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and then models without inputlayout and with vertexpulling

this whole coordinate system nonsense i need to source out somehow, i cba to explain it, i barely understand it myself hehe

brittle verge Nov 14, 2023, 11:58 AM

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hazy anchor now i need to split it up into chunks of explainisms again - ill explain program...

are program pipelines worth explaining over normal shaders+programs?

hazy anchor Nov 14, 2023, 12:04 PM

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imho program pipelines are a simpler mental model or maybe not idk

brittle verge Nov 14, 2023, 12:04 PM

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lemme look them up again

hazy anchor Nov 14, 2023, 12:04 PM

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less glAttach/glDetach nonsnense

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you can combine programs with each other however you like

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the attach/detach thing requires linking again

brittle verge Nov 14, 2023, 12:06 PM

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ah glCreateShaderProgramv

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ye looks easier

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I'm not familiar with it so idk if drivers fook it up in some way (buggy, worse errors, etc.)

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re: the discussion about my friend getting started yesterday
I made this thing to give to him: https://github.com/JuanDiegoMontoya/Unfrogged

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tl;dr it's your thing without the explanations and with much less starting code

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now he's gonna be looking at learnopengl

hazy anchor Nov 17, 2023, 1:48 AM

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hmm hhmm mmhh

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i just found something out

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with mkdocs you have this typical docs/... structure where all your md files go into the docs basically, and your mkdocs.yml provides the navigation hierarchy of sorts

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i just tried something with that include other file thing --8<-- "pathToFile"

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docs/
  someChapter/
    someContentInThatChapter.md <- have this file contain `--8<-- "src/someChapter/README.md"`
src/
  someChapter/README.md

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and have the actual readme in the project folder the article is talking about

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idk if any of what i say makes any sense hehe

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or should i keep all docs together up in docs/

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hmm github only picks up the readme in the repo root, neh?

brittle verge Nov 17, 2023, 2:03 AM

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Wdym

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It will display any readme if you are in its directory

hazy anchor Nov 17, 2023, 2:07 AM

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does it really?

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then this would be cool

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i could reuse the chapter docs files as README at the same time when people browse the source

brittle verge Nov 17, 2023, 2:15 AM

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hazy anchor does it really?

https://github.com/JuanDiegoMontoya/Frogfood/tree/main/data/models

hazy anchor Nov 17, 2023, 2:23 AM

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hmm nice

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mkdocs.yml cant index into files outside of docs/ hence the "forward" thingy,

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hmm mmh ill play with it : )

hazy anchor Nov 17, 2023, 9:21 PM

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while looking for a better pic of a shrimple graphics pipeline i schtumbled upon this thing https://www3.ntu.edu.sg/home/ehchua/programming/opengl/CG_BasicsTheory.html

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its glut and ffp opengl, but the imagery is quite nice ackchually

hazy anchor Nov 17, 2023, 9:43 PM

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hehe i will go ith this one

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obviously skipping tess/geom stage, but just mention them should be ok, since they might see those stages in renderdoc at some point

fast kite Nov 17, 2023, 9:44 PM

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the only mention GS deserves is: "you do NOT use the geometry shader, ever, under any circumstance"

hazy anchor Nov 17, 2023, 9:46 PM

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yeah

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and i might add links to ogldev's tesselation videos he released a month ago or so, they are not bad

hazy anchor Nov 18, 2023, 12:49 AM

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https://deccer.github.io/OpenGL-Getting-Started/01-basics/02-basic-window-and-triangle/

Basic Window With Triangle - OpenGL - Getting Started

OpenGL Getting Started

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Vertex Input is up

brittle verge Nov 18, 2023, 1:22 AM

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nice renderdoc screenshot frogapprove

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this sounds odd

We want to render them as lines or points or triangle fans, but mostly triangles

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how about

We may want to render them as lines, points, or triangle fans, but for now we'll do a triangle list

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the emphasized bit is redundant

Most of the time we want to render triangles because the GPU is super optimized to handle those things and it does it well

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not sure if now is the best time to introduce instancing

hazy anchor Nov 18, 2023, 1:30 AM

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yep, same, ill just omit that, instancing attributes i could mention later as a side note, that its possible via vaos, but nobody does that

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hmm the part after mentioning the blender and assimp is also weird heh

brittle verge Nov 18, 2023, 1:37 AM

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btw you should use glNamedBufferStorage

hazy anchor Nov 18, 2023, 1:47 AM

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oh lol

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ofc

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i thought i was writing that when i wrote that hehe

hazy anchor Nov 18, 2023, 10:59 AM

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ah its too bad glfw doesnt run framebuffersizecallback when the window is created

hazy anchor Nov 18, 2023, 11:45 AM

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dsa shader program creation doesnt support glProgramParameter ;C since you compile and link at the same time

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via glCreateShaderProgramv

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that sucks a little

brittle verge Nov 18, 2023, 11:45 AM

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what's the point of glProgramParameter

hazy anchor Nov 18, 2023, 11:45 AM

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you can get rid of the out perVertex {} bs in vertex shaders

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when you glPRogramParameter(GL_PROGRAM_SEPARABLE, GL_TRUE)

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but its not a train smash

brittle verge Nov 18, 2023, 11:46 AM

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https://registry.khronos.org/OpenGL-Refpages/gl4/html/glCreateShaderProgram.xhtml

hazy anchor Nov 18, 2023, 11:46 AM

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man im blind

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i just saw that too

brittle verge Nov 18, 2023, 11:46 AM

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hehe

hazy anchor Nov 18, 2023, 11:47 AM

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but then i lied as well

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because shader pipeloines still require that out PerVertexism

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ok, NEVERMIND 😄

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john khronos failed once again

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writing sucks 😄

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i wonder if i should just provide code as is

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hehe

tribal grove Nov 18, 2023, 4:12 PM

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I just look at your CMAKE for inspiration

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you are downloading glad trough the CMAKE ?

hazy anchor Nov 18, 2023, 4:57 PM

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tribal grove you are downloading glad trough the CMAKE ?

yep, and have it generate the bindings at config time, which is also customiserable there

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i also pushed slight fixes to it

hazy anchor Nov 18, 2023, 7:34 PM

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more awkward writing https://deccer.github.io/OpenGL-Getting-Started/01-basics/02-basic-window-and-triangle/ up until fragment stage

Basic Window With Triangle - OpenGL - Getting Started

OpenGL Getting Started

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i think i fooked it up a little by adding all the code things for the basicappwithtringle in these stages

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or perhaps it could work, idk

hazy anchor Nov 18, 2023, 9:24 PM

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@safe egret du musst mal als Meerschweinchen herhalten, bis sich die anderen Jungs ruehren

hazy anchor Nov 18, 2023, 9:33 PM

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hazy anchor more awkward writing https://deccer.github.io/OpenGL-Getting-Started/01-basics/0...

@olive dew if you have 10? minutes would you mind reading over?

olive dew Nov 18, 2023, 9:33 PM

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yeah I can take a look

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Lol I like how the "exercise" box has a red skull

hazy anchor Nov 18, 2023, 9:34 PM

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me too : )

olive dew Nov 18, 2023, 9:35 PM

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I can't decide what the correct level of assumed background for this article is, but I feel like it needs to go one way or the other

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Like either it needs more supporting diagrams to teach things like NDC, or you could cut out a fair bit of background by assuming that knowledge

hazy anchor Nov 18, 2023, 9:36 PM

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its probably super inconsistent

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i thought i have a todo box for NDC in there

olive dew Nov 18, 2023, 9:36 PM

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The writing is also fairly conversational, it could be cut down to be more terse

hazy anchor Nov 18, 2023, 9:36 PM

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more terse for people with background and more conversational to lube noobs in?

olive dew Nov 18, 2023, 9:37 PM

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It can be both imo

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there was an exercise we did in my writing class in school where we would cut a whole essay down into one paragraph, then into like one sentence, as a sense for how to distill the idea as efficiently as possible

hazy anchor Nov 18, 2023, 9:37 PM

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its some what "hard" to decide where to cut... make smaller code chunks to explain the details, or drop more code blobs and summarize

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i see

olive dew Nov 18, 2023, 9:38 PM

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I'm not great at it because I tend to be verbose but at some point I can take an editing pass through it if you want

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not today but maybe later on

hazy anchor Nov 18, 2023, 9:38 PM

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Whenever you feel like, that would be great ofc

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My English sucks a lot 😄

olive dew Nov 18, 2023, 9:39 PM

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So do most people's lol dw about it

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Your writing isn't really worse than the average native English speaker's

hazy anchor Nov 18, 2023, 9:39 PM

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enough to converse with americans hehe

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I would like to use this "guide" or tutorial or whatever this can be called, as a drop in for noobs in #opengl

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to avoid the "my screen is black" or "my tringle is kaputt" or "0xC0000005" when calling glDrawElements

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but also nudge them to write more modern stuff, with pipelines et al in mind

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so that they can move to vk more easily in the future

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(it also kind of helps/helped me to transition)

olive dew Nov 18, 2023, 9:44 PM

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Per vertex attribute (we have 2 attributes, Position and Color) we declare what data type each attribute is and of how many components that data type exists.

If you think of Position, usually 3 coordinates, x, y and z, also usually floating points - we have 3 components of type GL_FLOAT. Thats exactly what we describe here.

Same thing for the color attribute. Red, green and blue components, so, also 3 components of type GL_FLOAT.

A vertex may have "attributes" that describe its constituent data.

For instance, our vertex's first attribute is "position," consisting of 3 floating point components. We specify that the 0th attribute of `inputlayout` consists of 3 floats (`GL_FLOAT`), which are not normalized (`GL_FALSE`), and then specify the offset of the `Position` data within our `VertexPositionColor` struct:

glVertexArrayAttribFormat(inputLayout, 0, 3, GL_FLOAT, GL_FALSE, offsetof(VertexPositionColor, Position));

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Example revision

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At that point you barely even need to explain the color step beyond "this process is repeated for each attribute in the vertex struct"

hazy anchor Nov 18, 2023, 9:46 PM

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when you hold it into my face like that, yeah

olive dew Nov 18, 2023, 9:46 PM

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I think the most important part is making sure the code examples are good and happen in the right order

hazy anchor Nov 18, 2023, 9:46 PM

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i agree

olive dew Nov 18, 2023, 9:47 PM

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Also the difficulty with the "my screen is black" is that those people want a solution with zero effort

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another LOGL-length article isn't really going to fix that

hazy anchor Nov 18, 2023, 9:47 PM

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after the basic crap, before any first abstraction of inputlayout or anything else

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i want to introduce renderdoc and debugcallback

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and show them how they can help themselves

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with exercises too

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like messing with the vertexformat, wrong cullface or winding order

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or wrong amount of verticles in glDrawArrays

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so that they understand how to use the overlays by example

olive dew Nov 18, 2023, 9:49 PM

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I would focus on that first then personally

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The debugging crash course

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it's more focused than trying to write a start to finish guide

hazy anchor Nov 18, 2023, 9:49 PM

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ye, i wanted to have the tringle going first though

olive dew Nov 18, 2023, 9:49 PM

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fair enough

hazy anchor Nov 18, 2023, 9:49 PM

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before index buffers or textures

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right after BasicWindowAndTriangle

olive dew Nov 18, 2023, 9:50 PM

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I've just been through this process multiple times, writing what I thought was going to be the "omg it's simple, why don't people just explain it clearly" guide that ends up being long af and not any less confusing than all the others

hazy anchor Nov 18, 2023, 9:50 PM

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yeah

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i will point them at it

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with pics and example code

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so that they see the correlation between them

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then they might understand the Where Is My Drawcall thing plugin in renderdoc

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probably needs adjusting when actual noobs use this thing and get stuck or i wrote it too dumbly

olive dew Nov 18, 2023, 9:52 PM

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I would optimize for minimum words

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it also makes it easier to modify later

hazy anchor Nov 18, 2023, 9:52 PM

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oki, less bla bla

olive dew Nov 18, 2023, 9:53 PM

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Yeah, you can always elaborate later

hazy anchor Nov 18, 2023, 9:53 PM

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yeah was going to say, when i ask for feedback from a noobie they should be able to tell whether its too little or unnecessary

olive dew Nov 18, 2023, 9:53 PM

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but the writing process invariably involves cutting back the content so keeping it trim to begin with might save time

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yeah

hazy anchor Nov 18, 2023, 9:53 PM

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does it make sense that i explain the code snippets as i go through the graphics pipeline btw?

safe egret Nov 18, 2023, 9:54 PM

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hazy anchor <@196376941891158016> du musst mal als Meerschweinchen herhalten, bis sich die a...

mehrschweinchen.. etwas komisch 😅 worum gehts?

olive dew Nov 18, 2023, 9:54 PM

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Yeah I think it's fine

hazy anchor Nov 18, 2023, 9:54 PM

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safe egret mehrschweinchen.. etwas komisch 😅 worum gehts?

: ) Lies dir mal den verlinkten artikel durch und sag mir ma ob du das verstehen wuerdest oder ob das alles schinesischer humbug fuer dich ist, wenn du 10 minuten hast oder so

hazy anchor Nov 18, 2023, 9:55 PM

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olive dew Yeah I think it's fine

oki, i noticed it towards the end that i was just mixing in that stuff and was like oof 😄

safe egret Nov 18, 2023, 9:56 PM

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hazy anchor : ) Lies dir mal den verlinkten artikel durch und sag mir ma ob du das verstehen...

muss selbst heute noch ziemlich viel zeug editieren, um das morgen rumzuschicken (auch text+layout) und werde heute erstmal nicht dazu kommen 🙈

hazy anchor Nov 18, 2023, 9:56 PM

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Arne, und wenn du nix dagegen hast werd ich dich oefter anboopen zum gegenlesen

hazy anchor Nov 18, 2023, 9:56 PM

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safe egret muss selbst heute noch ziemlich viel zeug editieren, um das morgen rumzuschicke...

ja kein stress, layout is erstma wurst, wichtig is ob man das als noob versteht oder ob das nur kauderwelsch is

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achso dein zeug 😄

hazy anchor Nov 18, 2023, 9:57 PM

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safe egret muss selbst heute noch ziemlich viel zeug editieren, um das morgen rumzuschicke...

die Ausrede lass ich gelten

hazy anchor Nov 19, 2023, 2:45 PM

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~~im so clever soemtimes~~

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~~i want clearcolor to be in the same pink as the guide 😄~~

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~~but due to enabled framebuffer srgb this is super bright~~

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~~so i just take 0.7f, 0.1f, 0.4f and pow it by 2.2 😄~~

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~~and get 0.45f, 0.0063f, 0.1332f~~

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~~or at least i thought so~~

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~~thats the guide-pink~~

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~~thats 0.7, 0.1, 0.4~~

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~~when i put that through pow... i get 179, 19, 102 thats weird~~

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eye balled it until it looked similar

olive dew Nov 20, 2023, 1:21 AM

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hey deccer the cmake master

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how do you regenerate the build script using the cached variables at the command line

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have not used CLI cmake for years

olive dew Nov 20, 2023, 2:13 AM

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Ok NVM you just cmake .

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I think I was confused because it was a non cache variable I was editing or something so it got overwritten when generating

hazy anchor Nov 20, 2023, 11:40 AM

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i just use the cmake tools and shift+ctrl+p -> CMake: Reconfickture

hazy anchor Nov 23, 2023, 8:19 PM

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examexercisesples 😄

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thats what you get when your brain is offline, and wanted to rename examples to exercises

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21:22:23

hazy anchor Nov 23, 2023, 10:19 PM

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All state related to the definition of data
used by the vertex processor is encapsulated in a vertex array object.
The name space for vertex array objects is the unsigned integers, with zero
reserved by the GL.

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... reserved by the GL 😄

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reserved by the gnome loge

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man who wrote this

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BindVertexArray may also be used to bind an existing vertex array object.
If the bind is successful no change is made to the state of the bound vertex array
object, and any previous binding is broken.

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...if its successful nothing changes, and any previous binding is broken...

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https://tenor.com/view/terminator2-t2-john-connor-what-the-hell-does-that-mean-what-gif-20770538

Tenor

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(young John ~~Connor~~ Khronos)

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I cant find the spot where it talks about the default vao in the 🥓

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🥓 = bacon 🇺🇸 = speck 🇩🇪 = spec

hazy anchor Nov 24, 2023, 6:06 PM

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quite annoying that i cant put exercises right under the actual topic, i have to have some helper thing in there

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          - Debug Callback: 02-debugging/02-debug-callback.md
          - Debug Callback Exercises:      
            - Exercise 1: 02-debugging/02-debug-callback-exercise-01.md
            - Exercise 2: 02-debugging/02-debug-callback-exercise-02.md
          - RenderDoc: 02-debugging/03-renderdoc.md
          - RenderDoc Exercises: 
            - Exercise 1: 02-debugging/04-renderdoc-exercise-01.md
            - Exercise 2: 02-debugging/04-renderdoc-exercise-02.md

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i cant have this

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          - Debug Callback: 02-debugging/02-debug-callback.md
            - Exercise 1: 02-debugging/02-debug-callback-exercise-01.md
            - Exercise 2: 02-debugging/02-debug-callback-exercise-02.md
          - RenderDoc: 02-debugging/03-renderdoc.md
            - Exercise 1: 02-debugging/04-renderdoc-exercise-01.md
            - Exercise 2: 02-debugging/04-renderdoc-exercise-02.md

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its unsupported : (

hazy anchor Nov 24, 2023, 6:30 PM

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hazy anchor now i need to split it up into chunks of explainisms again - ill explain program...

hazy anchor Nov 24, 2023, 7:37 PM

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i was wondering if we should/could list common errors in the gl get started thing too, after debugcallback/renderdoc chapters or probably in some appendix, if you have more of those, let me know then we can compile those together into some comprehensive unfuck gl list

nothing works:
- get rid of GLCALL/GLCHECK macros, most of them use glGetError incorrectly anyway
- setup glDebugMessageCallback see here
- your shaders could contain errors, make sure you check linking state and fix according to what the error was highlighting
renderdoc crashes when i try to capture something from my project:
- most likely some of your code is fucked, its rarely renderdoc being fucked in that case
screen is black:
- camera (projection/view matrices are fucked) is not looking at the scene in question
- no texture is sampled due to missing or wrong uvs => default value is 0 aka black (depends on the driver)
- no shader bound (especially fragment shader)
- fragment shader doesnt write anything to its output
- no viewport is set/is too small
- you might be rendering to a framebuffer, but not blitting that framebuffer to the default one
- let clearcolor be something else than pure black
screen is white:
- perhaps your clearcolor is too, and no texture is sampled due to missing or wrong uvs => default value can be 1
  aka white (depends on the driver)
no visible output:
- check winding order and cullmode, you might be looking at the wrong side of your faces
exception when calling glDrawElements - aka "0xC0000005"
- no indexbuffer is bound/associated to the current vao/inputlayout
exception when calling glDrawArrays / or worse the driver is crashing
- you probably want to draw more primitives than you have in your vertexbuffer, check arguments of your glDrawArrays call
textures are black
- no textures bound
- are your textures complete? if not should produce an output in debug callback, so, go check that (hmm this might not be the case for glXXXTextureStorage i might take this one off the list)
- no samplers bound (check your sampler objects if you use them as separate objects)
- no or fucked uvs
textures look funny, like a garbled version of the actual image
- make sure your internalformat and actual pixel format match -> you probably used stb_image to load, but used 0 as the last parameter,
  and pixel data has 3 components, instead of the 4 (GL_RGBA) you told OpenGL about -> request 4 channels from stb_image
textures look like one color component is more prominent than others
- colors are more shifted towards blue -> you probably messed up the format and asked for GL_BRG.. of sorts => make sure they match
- colors are more shifted towards red -> original pixeldata was probably in BGR... but you asked for GL_RGB... of sorts => make sure they match
render artifacts, like small missing tiles on a floor
- synchronization issues - perhaps a missing glMemoryBarrier at the right spot
- ubo/ssbo alignment issue - check std140/430 rule in the glsl spec
- binding multiple textures to the same slot - check your glBindTextureUnit calls
- you might be using a float to index into a buffer to grab material/texture info, use a flat int
depth buffer not cleared
- despite calling glClear(GL_DEPTH_BUFFER_BIT) => check if glDepthMask was set to GL_FALSE or migrate to glClearNamedFramebuffer()

hazy anchor Nov 24, 2023, 7:37 PM

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hazy anchor i was wondering if we should/could list common errors in the gl get started thi...

vernal echo Nov 24, 2023, 8:27 PM

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I'd like to add calling glClear(GL_DEPTH_BUFFER_BIT) with glDepthMask(GL_FALSE).

brittle verge Nov 24, 2023, 8:28 PM

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Might be wise to use the other functions for clearing framebuffers to avoid this footgun

vernal echo Nov 24, 2023, 8:40 PM

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So I guess the suggestion should be to use glClearNamedFramebuffer

hazy anchor Nov 24, 2023, 8:47 PM

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yea

vernal echo Nov 24, 2023, 11:05 PM

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Oh shit it looks like glClearNamedFramebuffer has the same issue as glClear

hazy anchor Nov 24, 2023, 11:08 PM

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kind of makes sense, that depthmask influences clear in any form neh?

vernal echo Nov 24, 2023, 11:12 PM

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Yeah its just kinda a pain in the ass, since when I ask to clear the depth buffer you kinda expect it to be cleared

hazy anchor Nov 24, 2023, 11:27 PM

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yeah

hazy anchor Nov 25, 2023, 11:10 AM

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i think ill add model and textures first before abstracting anything into application, inputlayout or texture constructs

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to a) make people aware of formats, which will come in handy for inputlayouts

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and b) when introducing classes later, showing how RAII nonsense works (ie referring to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Qgd9B1KuMQ, rule of 3/5/0)

YouTube

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hazy anchor Nov 25, 2023, 7:48 PM

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i added the first renderdoc exercise

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https://deccer.github.io/OpenGL-Getting-Started/02-debugging/04-renderdoc-exercise-01/

Exercise 1 - OpenGL - Getting Started

OpenGL Getting Started

hazy anchor Nov 26, 2023, 3:18 PM

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hmm

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perhaps i should add textures before debugcallback/renderdoc

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or ill throw in renderdoc exercises later in between

hazy anchor Nov 26, 2023, 5:23 PM

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apparently people use their phone to read this thing 😦

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and are surprise that there are more than 1 page

hazy anchor Nov 30, 2023, 9:26 PM

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@tacit marsh ill/am abuse/abusing this thread for the thing

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turned that opengl thing into an editable gist https://gist.github.com/deccer/dbc53d34a378009c23a432b071273abb

Gist

Troubleshoot - OpenGL

Troubleshoot - OpenGL. GitHub Gist: instantly share code, notes, and snippets.

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it might get bigger and wont fit into a discord message soon 🙂

tacit marsh Nov 30, 2023, 9:30 PM

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yeah thats a good start

hazy anchor Nov 30, 2023, 9:31 PM

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or turn it into a project then others can contribute, gists dont have that possiblilitlity it looks like

tacit marsh Nov 30, 2023, 9:31 PM

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eventually it would be good to have it part of an actual FAQ instead

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as part of the tutorial series

hazy anchor Nov 30, 2023, 9:31 PM

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yeah

tacit marsh Nov 30, 2023, 9:31 PM

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but for now this is fine

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people can still comment on it

hazy anchor Nov 30, 2023, 9:31 PM

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ah indeed

brittle verge Nov 30, 2023, 11:53 PM

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I think the exception when calling glDrawElements could be expanded a little

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"error reading location 0x0000000000000000" or whatever

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And have one for "error executing location 0x0000" when calling any GL function, which indicates that gl pointers haven't been loaded yet

hazy anchor Dec 1, 2023, 12:48 AM

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why does this not work

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    if (auto graphicsPipelineResult = graphicsPipelineBuilder
        .WithInputLayout("PositionUv", std::to_array<const InputLayoutElement>(
        {
            {.Location = 0, .BindingIndex = 0, .AttributeFormat = Format::R32G32B32_FLOAT, .Offset = offsetof(VertexPositionUv, Position)},
            {.Location = 1, .BindingIndex = 0, .AttributeFormat = Format::R32G32_FLOAT, .Offset = offsetof(VertexPositionUv, Uv)},
        }))
        .WithShaders("Data/Shaders/Simple.vs.glsl", "Data/Shaders/Simple.fs.glsl")
        .WithPrimitiveTopology(PrimitiveTopology::Triangles)
        .Build())
    {
        _graphicsPipeline = graphicsPipelineResult.value();
    }

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GraphicsPipelineBuilder& GraphicsPipelineBuilder::WithInputLayout(
    std::string_view inputLayoutLabel,
    std::span<InputLayoutElement> inputLayoutElements)

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i dont understand how a 2 element array cannot be a span of the same type

brittle verge Dec 1, 2023, 12:51 AM

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Try std::span(thing)

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or std::span<blah>(thing)

brittle verge Dec 1, 2023, 12:51 AM

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hazy anchor i dont understand how a 2 element array cannot be a span of the same type

Idk

hazy anchor Dec 1, 2023, 12:52 AM

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you mean std::span<InputLayoutElement>(std::to_array<const InputLayoutElement>( ... ))? 😄

tacit marsh Dec 1, 2023, 12:52 AM

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hmm seems to be explicitly supported 🤔

hazy anchor Dec 1, 2023, 12:52 AM

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this code also worked before in a slightly different project

tacit marsh Dec 1, 2023, 12:52 AM

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oh you mean std::span<const InputLayoutElement>

brittle verge Dec 1, 2023, 12:52 AM

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Ah that's different

tacit marsh Dec 1, 2023, 12:52 AM

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you are losing qualifiers

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const U -> U

hazy anchor Dec 1, 2023, 12:53 AM

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oh hang on

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ye

tacit marsh Dec 1, 2023, 12:53 AM

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can't bind temporary std::array to non-const constructor

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yet another wrong default amirite

hazy anchor Dec 1, 2023, 12:53 AM

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damn

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that was it

tacit marsh Dec 1, 2023, 12:54 AM

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what can I say I'm a brain genius

hazy anchor Dec 1, 2023, 12:54 AM

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i forgot the add the const on the WithIL function

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but i cant use const here anymore anyway

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GraphicsPipelineBuilder& GraphicsPipelineBuilder::WithInputLayout(
    std::string_view inputLayoutLabel,
    std::span<const InputLayoutElement> inputLayoutElements)
{
    _graphicsPipelineDescriptor._inputLayoutLabel = inputLayoutLabel;
    _graphicsPipelineDescriptor._inputLayoutElements = inputLayoutElements;
    return *this;
}

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because then the 2nd line wont work, because of const

tacit marsh Dec 1, 2023, 12:55 AM

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make that const too

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do you need to modify them?

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should you be able to?

hazy anchor Dec 1, 2023, 12:55 AM

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hmm how do i make the _inputLayoutElements const?

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damn

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im an idiot

brittle verge Dec 1, 2023, 12:56 AM

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cppisms

hazy anchor Dec 1, 2023, 12:56 AM

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: D

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by also just doing this std::span<const InputLayoutElement> _inputLayoutElements; here

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weird that the error message swallowed the const

tacit marsh Dec 1, 2023, 12:58 AM

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yeah its a weird one

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tbf there isn't actually a const anywhere

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its just that the const overload is the only one that will accept a temporary array, so when you try to construct a non-const span, both array constructors are disabled

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bit fucky

hazy anchor Dec 1, 2023, 1:01 AM

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a nice beartrap for noobs like me : )

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https://tenor.com/view/bear-gif-9623973

Tenor

tacit marsh Dec 1, 2023, 1:02 AM

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🪣 🐻‍❄️

hazy anchor Dec 1, 2023, 1:02 AM

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cat_paw_wave

brittle verge Dec 1, 2023, 1:06 AM

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hazy anchor <a:cat_paw_wave:1054109919676223580>

Impawstor detected (that's not a bear paw)

hazy anchor Dec 1, 2023, 1:11 AM

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: )

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i couldnt find a proper bear paw

brittle verge Dec 1, 2023, 1:11 AM

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I just wanted to make a silly pun

hazy anchor Dec 1, 2023, 1:11 AM

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illallowit.gif

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https://tenor.com/view/bicycle-cycling-gif-19732199

Tenor

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me

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ruleofimnotsureyettruck runs me over again 😛

tacit marsh Dec 1, 2023, 1:21 AM

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rule of zero when 😔

hazy anchor Dec 1, 2023, 1:21 AM

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heh

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2:22:22

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bed time first

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🇬🇳

hazy anchor Dec 1, 2023, 11:20 AM

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as soon as i switched off, i knew the solution :B

hazy anchor Dec 1, 2023, 10:26 PM

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fuck me

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blindly tossing in a std::move makes all the shit work again : D

hazy anchor Dec 2, 2023, 7:17 PM

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[2023-12-02 20:17:13.509] [error] Building graphics gipeline "Simple" failed. �\UU�G��� graphics pipeline Simple. Details: pUU�G���     rogram VS_Program_Simple: 0(14) : error C1503: undefined variable "i_poXsition"

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i have no idea where that garbage is coming from, when i step through where i thought the source is, it looks clean

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its probably something with me not using string_views properly

tacit marsh Dec 2, 2023, 7:19 PM

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rip use after free

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time to set memory breakpoints

hazy anchor Dec 2, 2023, 7:20 PM

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yea

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gipeline 😄

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new alternative for pipeline after poipelione et al

tacit marsh Dec 2, 2023, 7:32 PM

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I've actually never been to poipelione

hazy anchor Dec 2, 2023, 7:35 PM

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its ez to go there

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you just let your fingers become butter fingers

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while typiong pipeloine

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its one of those words which are hard to type hehe, like them ending on -ililibility

tacit marsh Dec 2, 2023, 7:37 PM

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ah like flaot

hazy anchor Dec 2, 2023, 7:37 PM

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yeah

tacit marsh Dec 2, 2023, 7:37 PM

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flase

hazy anchor Dec 2, 2023, 7:37 PM

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treu, hibgut

tacit marsh Dec 2, 2023, 7:37 PM

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don't think I've ever done treu

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but i do flase all the time

hazy anchor Dec 2, 2023, 7:38 PM

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havent seen falot in the wild either yet , i mean flaot

tacit marsh Dec 2, 2023, 7:38 PM

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i guess bc fla alternates hands when typing

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just slightly out of sync

hazy anchor Dec 2, 2023, 7:39 PM

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i enjoy those little typos

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they also bring amusement to jaker

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i found the spot where its fucked, but im not sure how to fix it

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        auto infoLogLength = 0;
        glGetProgramiv(program, GL_INFO_LOG_LENGTH, &infoLogLength);
        std::vector<char> v(infoLogLength);
        glGetProgramInfoLog(program, 1024, &infoLogLength, v.data());

        std::string infoLog(v.begin(), v.end());

        return std::unexpected(infoLog);

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infoLog is garbled when i render expected.error() further up

tacit marsh Dec 2, 2023, 7:49 PM

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what is the error type?

hazy anchor Dec 2, 2023, 7:49 PM

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std::string

tacit marsh Dec 2, 2023, 7:49 PM

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hmm thats strange

hazy anchor Dec 2, 2023, 7:49 PM

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i had return std::unexpected(std::format("Unable to link program blabla {} {}", ..., infoLog));

tacit marsh Dec 2, 2023, 7:50 PM

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hazy anchor ```cpp auto infoLogLength = 0; glGetProgramiv(program, GL_INFO_L...

wait whats the 1024 here

hazy anchor Dec 2, 2023, 7:50 PM

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the maximum length

tacit marsh Dec 2, 2023, 7:51 PM

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but that's not the maximum length

hazy anchor Dec 2, 2023, 7:51 PM

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hang on a second

tacit marsh Dec 2, 2023, 7:51 PM

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bababooey

hazy anchor Dec 2, 2023, 7:52 PM

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not quite there yet 😄

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this should be the right call

glGetProgramInfoLog(program, infoLogLength, nullptr, v.data());

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but its still garbled

tacit marsh Dec 2, 2023, 7:53 PM

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also why allocate a vector and copy into a string when you can just allocate the string with the right length from the beginning

tacit marsh Dec 2, 2023, 7:53 PM

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hazy anchor but its still garbled

immediately after the call or further up the call stack?

hazy anchor Dec 2, 2023, 7:53 PM

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yes

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        auto infoLogLength = 0;
        glGetProgramiv(program, GL_INFO_LOG_LENGTH, &infoLogLength);
        auto infoLog = std::string(infoLogLength + 1, '\0');
        glGetProgramInfoLog(program, infoLogLength, nullptr, infoLog.data());

        return std::unexpected(infoLog);

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i have tried a bunch of things, vector was just one of them

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further up the callstack

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aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah

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foudn it

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for some weird raisin, one of methods returning std::expected... had an string_view error type facepalm

brittle verge Dec 2, 2023, 7:56 PM

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hazy anchor ```cpp auto infoLogLength = 0; glGetProgramiv(program, GL_INFO_L...

Wth is return std::unexpected

tacit marsh Dec 2, 2023, 7:56 PM

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lol

brittle verge Dec 2, 2023, 7:57 PM

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Ah it got removed and replaced lol

tacit marsh Dec 2, 2023, 7:57 PM

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hazy anchor for some weird raisin, one of methods returning std::expected... had an string_v...

that'd do it

brittle verge Dec 2, 2023, 7:57 PM

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Was reading this lmao
https://en.cppreference.com/w/cpp/error/unexpected

cpp/error/unexpected

hazy anchor Dec 2, 2023, 7:57 PM

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😄

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std::expected<std::tuple<uint32_t, uint32_t, uint32_t>, std::string> GraphicsPipelineBuilder::CreateProgram(
        std::string_view label,
        std::string_view vertexShaderSource,
        std::string_view fragmentShaderSource)
{
...
``` i mustve gotten distracted here by all the SVs

tacit marsh Dec 2, 2023, 7:58 PM

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man c++ makes this verbose

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Result<(u32, u32, u32), String> 😅

hazy anchor Dec 2, 2023, 8:00 PM

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same in c# 🙂

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you can even do one better

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Result<(uint Program, uint VertexShader, uint FragmentShader), ...

tacit marsh Dec 2, 2023, 8:00 PM

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ah yes, a struct

hazy anchor Dec 2, 2023, 8:01 PM

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named tuple

tacit marsh Dec 2, 2023, 8:01 PM

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ah yes... a struct

hazy anchor Dec 2, 2023, 8:01 PM

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but yea, is a struct pretty much

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[2023-12-02 21:15:44.115] [error] Building graphics pipeline "Simple" failed. Unable to link "Program-Simple-VS" Details: 0(14) : error C1503: undefined variable "i_poXsition"

brittle verge Dec 2, 2023, 8:16 PM

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I liked the corrupted one better

hazy anchor Dec 2, 2023, 8:16 PM

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: )

brittle verge Dec 2, 2023, 8:16 PM

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It had more character

hazy anchor Dec 2, 2023, 8:16 PM

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haha

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good one

hazy anchor Dec 2, 2023, 8:42 PM

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hmm looks like cmake's post/prebuild target thing doesnt pickup changes in the filesystem

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but custom targets do

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add_custom_command(
    TARGET GameClient
    PRE_BUILD
    COMMAND ${CMAKE_COMMAND} -E copy_directory ${CMAKE_CURRENT_SOURCE_DIR}/Data ${CMAKE_CURRENT_BINARY_DIR}/Data
)

will be replaced by

add_custom_target(copy_data
    ALL
    COMMAND ${CMAKE_COMMAND} -E copy_directory ${CMAKE_CURRENT_SOURCE_DIR}/Data ${CMAKE_CURRENT_BINARY_DIR}/Data
)
add_dependencies(GameClient copy_data)

hazy anchor Dec 3, 2023, 12:23 AM

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hmm weird

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when i do vertex pulling the vertices are in CW

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when i dont to vertex pulling the verticles are in CCW

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weeeeeeeeird : ) vertexbuffer is bound as ssbo, only shows 2 items, although i write 3, size is correct et al

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ahaaaa vertex shader was fucked

hazy anchor Dec 3, 2023, 6:05 PM

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i did it again

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class ComputePopelineBuilder
{

};

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pipeline is a funny word

vernal echo Dec 4, 2023, 1:12 AM

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Blessed pipeline

hazy anchor Dec 4, 2023, 1:15 PM

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@tacit marsh in opengl you mentioned glDrawElements can be used with VP, but im a little puzzled how

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glDrawElements is based on a bound EBO, via a VAO, isnt it?

tacit marsh Dec 4, 2023, 1:15 PM

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yes

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the ebo still has to be bound, it's just the vertex data that's pulled

hazy anchor Dec 4, 2023, 1:16 PM

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thats what i thought

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but doesnt it defeat the purpose of VP then?

tacit marsh Dec 4, 2023, 1:16 PM

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no, bc you still don't need to specify a vertex format

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and you can still generate vertex data however you want

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from ssbos, textures, generated on the fly etc

hazy anchor Dec 4, 2023, 1:17 PM

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ah so i just bind the ebo to the default vao

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ebo doesnt care about the vertex attribs

tacit marsh Dec 4, 2023, 1:18 PM

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correct

hazy anchor Dec 4, 2023, 1:18 PM

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ok then im not totally dumb

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just feels weird slightly

tacit marsh Dec 4, 2023, 1:18 PM

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i don't think you were ever dumb :)

tacit marsh Dec 4, 2023, 1:19 PM

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hazy anchor just feels weird slightly

just gotta remember it's technically an optimisation.

hazy anchor Dec 4, 2023, 1:19 PM

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yep

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to make use of "the" cache

tacit marsh Dec 4, 2023, 1:20 PM

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exactly

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"the" cache

hazy anchor Dec 4, 2023, 1:20 PM

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: D

tacit marsh Dec 4, 2023, 1:20 PM

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anyway, i literally just have a bind_index_buffer that hides the vao as an implementation detail lol

hazy anchor Dec 4, 2023, 1:21 PM

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yeah same

tacit marsh Dec 4, 2023, 1:21 PM

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ez

hazy anchor Dec 4, 2023, 1:21 PM

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i would like to be a tiny bit explicit when constructing the pipeline

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right now i have something like .WithInputLayout(...)

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which constructs an actual vao

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for VP im thinking of having a .WithDefaultInputLayout(), .WithNoInputLayout() or .WithInputLayoutForVertexPulling() naming is hard

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so that when i do gfxpipeloine->BindIndexBuffer(indexBuffer); knows which vao to use

tacit marsh Dec 4, 2023, 1:23 PM

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makes sense :)

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I'd probably hash the input layout and cache the vaos that way

hazy anchor Dec 4, 2023, 1:24 PM

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ye thats impl detail

tacit marsh Dec 4, 2023, 1:24 PM

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use them only for vertex format, and always rebind buffers

hazy anchor Dec 4, 2023, 1:25 PM

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yep and textures

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unless bindless

tacit marsh Dec 4, 2023, 1:25 PM

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hazy anchor for VP im thinking of having a .WithDefaultInputLayout(), .WithNoInputLayout() ...

can you just not specify an input layout?

hazy anchor Dec 4, 2023, 1:25 PM

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i could do that too

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then the gfxplbuilder will know when an inputlayout was requested or not and when not vp will be assumed

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ye, perhaps better

tacit marsh Dec 4, 2023, 1:27 PM

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ultimately the pipeline doesn't need to care if you're using vp right? just either you're pushing data through attributes from buffers attached to a vao or you aren't - you can bind ssbos and co in both cases

hazy anchor Dec 4, 2023, 1:29 PM

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the pipeline object i create defines the gl state to be set when the pipeline is bound

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until a new pipeline is bound

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load:
_pipeline = _device->CreatePipelineBuilder().XXX().XXX().XXX().Build();

render:
_device->BeginRenderToFramebuffer/ToSwapchain()
_device->BindPipeline(_pipeline)
_device->EndRender()

tacit marsh Dec 4, 2023, 1:32 PM

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right, so either it binds vbos to the vao or it doesn't. does it actually need to know what vertex pulling is

hazy anchor Dec 4, 2023, 1:32 PM

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no

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thats why i will leave out that WithNoInputLayout nonsens, and only have WithInputLayout when i actually want one

tacit marsh Dec 4, 2023, 1:33 PM

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sick

hazy anchor Dec 4, 2023, 1:33 PM

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that emoji 😄

tacit marsh Dec 4, 2023, 1:33 PM

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it's one of my favourites

hazy anchor Dec 4, 2023, 1:33 PM

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looks like you clap your finger and thumb kwikly and it makes some noise hence the particles hehe

tacit marsh Dec 4, 2023, 1:34 PM

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lol

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i can kinda see it

hazy anchor Dec 4, 2023, 1:34 PM

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didnt see the fidget spinner first

hazy anchor Dec 4, 2023, 5:37 PM

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i need to untangle this channel somehow 😄

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i keep mixing 5 projects in this one

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moving opengl-getting-started out into https://discord.com/channels/318590007881236480/1181289212251742238

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OpenGL CMake Template (glfw+glad+glm+imgui+spdlog+tracy+cgltf+stb_image)

ivory totem Dec 18, 2023, 2:44 AM

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hey hey, i love the idea of having an openGL template and it seems really amazing, I just have a slight suggestion, could you please add a little more "how to get started" text in the readme (like from git clone-ing to compiling the project and building an executable) for dumb and ambitious beginners like me who probably should take a class on C++ and properly learn makefiles before attempting graphics programming cry_wink thank you

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(for context: i ran git clone, cmake CMakeLists.txt, then make, and now i don't know what to next. i just wanna run the build now. can't find a ./app file anywhere either)

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i see the opengl-getting-started repo. i'll look through that rn

hazy anchor Dec 18, 2023, 11:11 AM

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@ivory totem hmm are you talking about this one? https://github.com/deccer/OpenGL-Getting-Started or this one? https://github.com/deccer/CMake-Glfw-OpenGL-Template

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ah i see, i should have read first : )

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ok

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so

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sprintf is tracy's stuff as others pointed out

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and yes i should hide warnings from dependencies so that warnings treated as errors dont block you from building

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weird that it happens on mac though, also no surprise

hazy anchor Dec 18, 2023, 4:57 PM

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the build artifact (binary/library or whatever) should usually sit in ./build/ somewhere

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you are also the first mac person

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and i also think it wont even run on mac, because im targeting gl4.6 by default, but anyway, that can be massaged

ivory totem Dec 18, 2023, 7:02 PM

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ah, alright

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😔

hazy anchor Dec 18, 2023, 7:13 PM

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ivory totem ah, alright

fear not

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you just have to kick a bunch out of there then

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or sell your mac and get an actual PC 😛

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you need cmake and ninja installed

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vscode's plugin too as described in the readme, then clone

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then it should be enough to adjust the following files

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https://github.com/deccer/CMake-Glfw-OpenGL-Template/blob/main/src/Project.Library/Application.cpp#L75 should be 1 instead of 6

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actually not that much needs adjusting

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just glNamedBufferData needs to be replaced with its nonDSA counterpart in https://github.com/deccer/CMake-Glfw-OpenGL-Template/blob/main/src/Project/ProjectApplication.cpp#L144

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there are 3 occurencies

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with glBufferData after those glBindBufferBase calls i think that should work

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hmm glMultiDrawElementsIndirect wont though, thats a gl4.3 thing

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you can emulate that with a loop and glDrawElementsIndirect

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glTextureStorage2D is also a gl4.5 thing

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well, thats one reason why i dont target macos : >

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you could remove all the code and keep the skellington, and then slowly add your own thing, if you want, or take the template as a guide

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at least for the cmake bits

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@ivory totem

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i have another repo, which might work for you

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clone this repo https://github.com/deccer/OpenGL-Getting-Started and then git checkout 83272858fe8def06171ddf7634f917212531ef49

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its a cmake project

ivory totem Dec 18, 2023, 7:34 PM

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actually, i did find this one to work ! https://github.com/ArthurSonzogni/OpenGL_CMake_Skeleton

GitHub

GitHub - ArthurSonzogni/OpenGL_CMake_Skeleton: :heart: A ready to u...

:heart: A ready to use cmake skeleton using GLFW, Glew and glm. :+1: - GitHub - ArthurSonzogni/OpenGL_CMake_Skeleton: :heart: A ready to use cmake skeleton using GLFW, Glew and glm. :+1:

hazy anchor Dec 18, 2023, 7:35 PM

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kk

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then i didnt say anything : )

ivory totem Dec 18, 2023, 7:35 PM

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but i'll try yours

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would be easiest to get support from the person who actually made the repo :)

hazy anchor Dec 18, 2023, 7:36 PM

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you need to make 2 adjustments though

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for macos

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change this line https://github.com/deccer/OpenGL-Getting-Started/blob/83272858fe8def06171ddf7634f917212531ef49/src/01-BasicTriangle-nonDSA/Main.cpp#L186 to 1 and this one https://github.com/deccer/OpenGL-Getting-Started/blob/83272858fe8def06171ddf7634f917212531ef49/src/01-BasicTriangle-nonDSA/Main.cpp#L188

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GLFW_OPENGL_CORE_PROFILE needs to be set to GLFW_FORWARD_COMPATIBLE i think its called

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because macos sucks

ivory totem Dec 18, 2023, 7:39 PM

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alright changed the two

hazy anchor Dec 18, 2023, 7:43 PM

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this should work then

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if you have cmake and the cmake tools for vscode installed

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ideally ninja too

ivory totem Dec 18, 2023, 7:44 PM

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Users/x/Desktop/Programming/cpp/OpenGL-Getting-Started-2/src/01-BasicTriangle-DSA/Main.cpp:186:41: error: use of undeclared identifier 'GLFW_FORWARD_COMPATIBLE'
glfwWindowHint(GLFW_OPENGL_PROFILE, GLFW_FORWARD_COMPATIBLE);

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uh oh

hazy anchor Dec 18, 2023, 7:44 PM

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fook

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i probably misspelled it

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use your google foo to find the right one

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ah fuck it, here it is GLFW_OPENGL_FORWARD_COMPAT

ivory totem Dec 18, 2023, 7:51 PM

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./01-BasicTriangle-DSA
[2023-12-18 11:51:06.707] [error] GLFW: Error Invalid OpenGL profile 0x00022006
[2023-12-18 11:51:06.707] [error] GLFW: Unable to create window
(base) rain

hazy anchor Dec 18, 2023, 7:52 PM

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hmm mmh

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yeah

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you are supposed to try that with the nonDSA variant

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find that status bar

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click on [all] and select the nonDSA thing, then click on the bug icon

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that starts the debugger

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if you select nonDSA on the right where i have [Fuk] atm, and press the play button, then it will just run it not attach a debugger

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@ivory totem

olive dew Mar 17, 2024, 11:10 PM

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Btw I ran this at my friend's house last night and I have some complaints to file

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I suppose I could fix it myself but that would be hard

hazy anchor Mar 17, 2024, 11:11 PM

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im all ears

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i hope your friend wasnt running it on a 15 year old laptop : P

olive dew Mar 17, 2024, 11:11 PM

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The main issue I had was that for some reason intellisense couldn't figure out any of the API calls, it gave errors (but things still built)

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No his machine is much newer than mine

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I think something to do with having glad in a separate project may confuse VS or something

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Or confuse intellisense rather

hazy anchor Mar 17, 2024, 11:11 PM

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weirdly enough clion and vs were weird yesterday for me too

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with glad

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it would never be a ble to find glad/gl.h

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but when i use vscode + cmake plugin it would just work

olive dew Mar 17, 2024, 11:12 PM

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Idk what the best solution is for this with cmake since the way glad is often used isn't really fitting the CMake paradigm

hazy anchor Mar 17, 2024, 11:12 PM

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best workaround is download glad, and add it as a library

olive dew Mar 17, 2024, 11:13 PM

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I'm just going to send him one of my project templates to keep things simple

hazy anchor Mar 17, 2024, 11:13 PM

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into libs/glad

olive dew Mar 17, 2024, 11:13 PM

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Also it would be nice if the template didn't impose the application structure and just had a single-file main.cpp hello triangle

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Maybe as another branch or something idk

hazy anchor Mar 17, 2024, 11:13 PM

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then ```cmake
add_library(glad
glad/src/glad.c)
target_include_directories(glad PUBLIC glad/include)

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and in your main project target_link_libraries(YourProjectWhatever PRIVATE glad glfw glm) as usual, and the include header is different in the manual one

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its <glad/glad.h> there

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ill fix that tomorrow (the single file project setup)

olive dew Mar 17, 2024, 11:16 PM

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Interesting

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I should really learn cmake better

hazy anchor Mar 17, 2024, 11:17 PM

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could your friend try out vscode + cmake plugin?

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with the current cmake-template

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im curious if that still works

olive dew Mar 17, 2024, 11:18 PM

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Idk how to use vscode

hazy anchor Mar 17, 2024, 11:18 PM

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make him join, i can explain 🙂

olive dew Mar 17, 2024, 11:18 PM

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I am trying to teach him so it would probably be easier for me to try just it myself or something

hazy anchor Mar 17, 2024, 11:18 PM

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or her

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ah

olive dew Mar 17, 2024, 11:19 PM

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He hasn't done significant projects before

hazy anchor Mar 17, 2024, 11:19 PM

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instructions are also in the README

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or i lube you in in a voice call

olive dew Mar 17, 2024, 11:20 PM

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I'm sure it probably works, I don't really want to go installing more toolchain stuff on my machine

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It's just an issue with the way visual studio kind of segregates projects probably

hazy anchor Mar 17, 2024, 11:20 PM

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: )

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something is fucked

olive dew Mar 17, 2024, 11:20 PM

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Oh lol

hazy anchor Mar 17, 2024, 11:20 PM

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it puzzled me yesterday

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shit you found something?

olive dew Mar 17, 2024, 11:21 PM

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No

olive dew Mar 17, 2024, 11:21 PM

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hazy anchor something is fucked

are you saying you just discovered something or is this ongoing

hazy anchor Mar 17, 2024, 11:21 PM

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on friday i helped a noobie

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with hooking up glad et al

olive dew Mar 17, 2024, 11:21 PM

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ah

hazy anchor Mar 17, 2024, 11:21 PM

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it wouldnt work for him either

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even with a dummy project from le scratch

olive dew Mar 17, 2024, 11:22 PM

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With the template or without?

hazy anchor Mar 17, 2024, 11:22 PM

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https://github.com/deccer/Dummy

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with this one

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because mf didnt want to use the cmake template

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but now that the template isnt working either anymore... something's fishy

olive dew Mar 17, 2024, 11:23 PM

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Hm

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I never use the git glad I just use the generator

hazy anchor Mar 17, 2024, 11:23 PM

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the latest commit in the dummy repo switched to manual glad

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yeah so did the template

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template is using v1 of glad though

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and i have another c++ shit project on my disk here using glad's v2 generator which also works

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hmm

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which version of vs is he using?

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mayhaps msft messed something up again

olive dew Mar 17, 2024, 11:25 PM

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I doubt it, this is a VS2019 I installed on his machine like 2 years ago

hazy anchor Mar 17, 2024, 11:25 PM

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im on windows right now, let me pull the template rq

olive dew Mar 17, 2024, 11:25 PM

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olive dew I doubt it, this is a VS2019 I installed on his machine like 2 years ago

Basically the same as what I'm using

hazy anchor Mar 17, 2024, 11:28 PM

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]
[45/45] Linking CXX executable src\Project\Project.exe

Rebuild All succeeded.

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thats with vs (2022)

olive dew Mar 17, 2024, 11:28 PM

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Yeah like I said it did compile just fine

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It's just that intellisense had no idea what was going on

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and all the GL calls were underlined red and stuff

hazy anchor Mar 17, 2024, 11:28 PM

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it also runs fine

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ah

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for that dude on friday it wouldnt find the path at all

olive dew Mar 17, 2024, 11:29 PM

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oh that idk

hazy anchor Mar 17, 2024, 11:29 PM

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and when i tried it myself it wouldnt find anything glad either

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although glad was generated properly

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when intellisense is fucked, restarting vs usually helps, and also deleting the .vs folder after closing/before restarting it

olive dew Mar 17, 2024, 11:30 PM

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This was like a brand new clone of the repo

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I didn't try that but figured it didn't have much time to get messed up

hazy anchor Mar 17, 2024, 11:30 PM

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did you do "Open Folder"?

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vs2019's cmake support might have been missing something?

olive dew Mar 17, 2024, 11:31 PM

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Nah I used the CMake GUI and just pressed open project like I always do when using CMake on windows

hazy anchor Mar 17, 2024, 11:31 PM

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ah

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cmake gui is the wurst lol

olive dew Mar 17, 2024, 11:32 PM

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Werks for me

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Easier than editing the cmakelists

hazy anchor Mar 17, 2024, 11:32 PM

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i find the latter simpler for some raisin

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no cmake gui on lunix anyway hehe

olive dew Mar 17, 2024, 11:33 PM

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There probably is

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I haven't looked though

hazy anchor Mar 17, 2024, 11:33 PM

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same

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i also have no idea how to use the gui heh

olive dew Mar 17, 2024, 11:35 PM

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You just give it the path to the top level folder containing CMakelists, and the path to the build directory

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Then press configure, edit settings, press generate, and it should just spit out the project

#OpenGL CMake Template (glfw+glad+glm+imgui+spdlog+tracy+cgltf+stb_image)