Would make it cool
#Proximity chat / Voice chat
lunar sinew
I'm unsure. Could just use our discord voice channel or a group call.
full void
its funny i beg u
burnt garden
proximity is cooler tho
lunar sinew
lets go time to get denied
Seriously? What kind of stupid message is this?
full void
I'm unsure. Could just use our discord voice channel or a group call.
unsure is better that instantly getting denied
lunar sinew
and the people that dont wanna use it and listen
Well the mod is not necessary to be installed on clients who join a server that has the mod. If people don't want to use voice chat, they don't need to install the mod.
full void
wait really
thats awesome
i didnt even know that
that does make it quite viable doesnt it
lunar sinew
Yes, really. If the mod would be required to be installed on clients for them to join, then this would be instant denied as the only mod we want players to need is SecurityCraft.
full void
lunar sinew
I'm wondering what the other <@&569817132767117313> think (cheeky ping because actually kinda important to not miss this)
river nymph
nice
full void
https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/simple-voice-chat
modrinth is better
full void
I'm wondering what the other <@&569817132767117313> think (cheeky ping because a...
good point
lunar sinew
Let's not start this Modrinth vs CurseForge debate.
river nymph
i like curseforge
full void
Let's not start this Modrinth vs CurseForge debate.
alr mb
river nymph
leave it to the goofy mc chat guys, dont bring it here
full void
Well the mod is not necessary to be installed on clients who join a server that ...
I cant seem to find anything about that. How'd you find out?
rich cargo
I wound not be in favor of this idea, the mod doesn't work on a lot of people's computers, and if you have a Mac it breaks it completely.
Setting that mod up on macs or PCs with a high amount of security software is quite an ordeal.
full void
then dont install it
full void
Yes, really. If the mod would be required to be installed on clients for them to...
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also no offense but if you play modded on a mac thats not very ideal
The whole purpose why its even viable is because it would be optional
meaning if you do not intend to use it you do not have to change anything on your side
full void
I wound not be in favor of this idea, the mod doesn't work on a lot of people's ...
And as far as im aware, its the only of its kind where its not required on clients
sry for the ping it was an accident
rich cargo
But if it's installed and everyone else has it it puts you at a disadvantage
rigid glen
I don't mind installing it if it's an optional mod that doesn't require an installation as bl4ck explained
rigid glen
also no offense but if you play modded on a mac thats not very ideal
Although if it actually causes problems like Big Gunz explained on certain computers, then that sort of disincentives me to install it. Playing modded MC on a Mac might not be ideal, but it could be the only computer that certain people have to play on and they should be able to use it to play, worse performance or not
rigid glen
I wound not be in favor of this idea, the mod doesn't work on a lot of people's ...
Do you have a source/link for the Mac crashes bit?
rich cargo
It's not a crash
It's that the mod doesn't work
And the process required to make it work breaks the key storage
rigid glen
Ah, I see
rich cargo
Which means you need to go through an ordeal to bypass it and login again every time you open the launcher
It's not impossible but it's very difficult
And I am yet to find a workaround
pastel goblet
i'll bring up an anecdote from the old 1.12 server, older staff may remember
remember how scotty went all in on that sign image thing? was also an optional mod
however what ended up happening, even though it wasn't required
they were all over town, and if you didn't have the mod installed
there were just all these weird unreadable link signs everywhere
my memory is hazy but i think we even ended up taking some action against it, since most players never installed the mod
otherwise have no opinion being completely uninvolved with the server now xd, but it seemed relevant
burnt garden
I wound not be in favor of this idea, the mod doesn't work on a lot of people's ...
@river nymph
rich cargo
there were just all these weird unreadable link signs everywhere
Excellent point
burnt garden
Setting that mod up on macs or PCs with a high amount of security software is qu...
Why is that
leaden swan
As a Mac user, I’ll have to downvote this due to the aforementioned technical issues. If there’s an alternative optional mod that does work on Mac, I’ll reconsider my stance.
rich cargo
Why is that
It basically has to do with microphone access permissions
As for specifics I'm on mobile rn and don't feel like typing an essay
lunar sinew
Oh yeah, that sign image situation was not great. I'm surprised you even remember the name of the player, Vauff.
full void
It basically has to do with microphone access permissions
Macs are not meant for gaming in any way, which is quite obvious too. if you want to play on a mac then I think its rather on you if something doesnt work
Older macs for example wont even start minecraft vanilla, which shows again that they were not made for such software and even though it may be possible it was in no way intended. (I own 2 older macbooks)
full void
But if it's installed and everyone else has it it puts you at a disadvantage
May I ask what exactly you mean by that?
dire sluice
I have the same opinion as Geforce, as a server-only optional mod for clients I'd be ok with installing this mod (if there aren't any significant server performance impacts). It's unfortunate that the mod doesn't work on Mac, but from what I got from this conversation, mac users would still be able to play normally on the server without having the mod installed on the client.
Mac players having a disadvantage compared to players on other operating systems is a fair point, however for me it depends on how the voice chat mod will mainly be used. I'm assuming the proximity "mode" will be used less compared to the voice-chat-at-any-distance-in-a-group mode (if that's how that mod even works? I've only ever seen it in videos, sorry), and the latter can easily be moved to a Discord voice chat to not exclude a teammate on a Mac.
full void
Yes, we do want the mod mainly for the proximity chat, while a discord group-like feature also exists
dire sluice
Ok yeah I can see how Mac players can feel excluded when the mod is used in proximity voice mode
full void
And by giving new players a heads up that there is support for the mod i do not think that there will be any other problems since most people ask for what mods there are on the server anyways meaning they will most likely install voice chat along with it for extended functionality such as being able to hear other people
full void
Ok yeah I can see how Mac players can feel excluded when the mod is used in prox...
Yes, mac players are most likely at some disadvantage, even though its kind of their fault, aspecially if you play on a mac, its unlikely that you even have a working decent microphone
as far as i could understand the issue on mac is that the mod does not detect any sort of mic?
And the disadvantage is the fact that they wouldn't be able to hear other people if its not installed
That doesnt really match up
dire sluice
Sorry, what are you implying with the emphasis on hear there?
full void
But if it's installed and everyone else has it it puts you at a disadvantage
Regarding this,
I assumed that he meant not being able to hear other people
dire sluice
I mean, if there's really an issue with detecting the microphone on a Mac, I'd assume hearing other people is fine, just talking themselves doesn't work, but in either case, the mod is basically unusable on Macs for conversations
full void
But the disadvantage is that they cant hear other people
Thats the main issue isnt it?
The main issue is the limited support/functionality for mac here
full void
But if it's installed and everyone else has it it puts you at a disadvantage
Meaning this isnt really an issue since you'd still be able to hear other people
(still dont know what he meant by it)
And regarding the fact that mac users woulnt be able to talk to others,
the mod is purely for fun and entertainment for the people that WANT to use it
The mod shouldn't be a requirement, as stated before
its meant to be extended functionality
And even though it sucks that mac doesnt have full compat, we cant really do anything about it
and if you're planning on playing for a good while anyways, im pretty sure you wont be playing on a mac forever
And im not 100% sure about this,
but most macs do support linux if you have the technical knowledge to install it
I am unsure if this works for all macs but i have done it before
dire sluice
Ok after thinking about it longer, the only disadvantage Mac users have (compared to only using Discord voice chats) is not being able to automatically tune into a conversation when approaching other players, which is negligible in my opinion (might just be the Windows user speaking out of me, so please correct me if I'm wrong). So I'd be in favour of installing Voice Chat
full void
As a Mac user, I’ll have to downvote this due to the aforementioned technical is...
Regarding the technical issues once again, I'd appreciate it if you read my recent messages and possibly could reconsider the voice chat mod
leaden swan
No, thank you. I’m not going to buy a new computer or install a new VM in order to have Discord closed while Minecraft is open.
full void
If you dont need it thats fine we still want it
You dont have to use it,
As i said its for fun and the people that want to use it
Are there any other important reasons directly against it?
full void
No, thank you. I’m not going to buy a new computer or install a new VM in order ...
Since at the moment it just seems like you really dont care as long as it doesnt affect your gameplay in any way
It would be nice if you don't ruin it for us just because of your personal preferences
pastel goblet
Oh yeah, that sign image situation was not great. I'm surprised you even remembe...
excel stayed in contact with him for some years after
so brought him up sometimes
full void
Sooo....
There has been a good amount of both likes and dislikes, how are you going to decide, bl4ckscor3?
lunar sinew
I am not the only one to decide and no conclusion has been met yet.
full void
ok, when approximately?
lunar sinew
While its wording does not fully apply, I should probably refer you to rule 8.
full void
pardon me
rich cargo
I mean, if there's really an issue with detecting the microphone on a Mac, I'd a...
It wont load without mic access
The mod does not work on Macs because:
Due to the way microphone access works on a mac the .jar cannot have access to the microphone,
The workaround that the mod developer came up with was to modify the launcher (which is a normal .app program) so that the launcher is the program accessing the mic, the launcher then feeds data to the mod.
The issue with this is:
- Modifying the launcher is a difficult process and not something inexperienced players are likely to be able to figure out,
- Modifying the launcher means its no longer the signed app from Microsoft, this means:
- antivirus issues
- app can no longer access the items stored in the keychain (meaning the app can no longer save credentials, but the launcher tries to anyway so it breaks the login altogether)
full void
Just noticed, you didnt read my messages carefully again
The whole point is that the mod is for fun and the people that want to use it, half of the people arent gonna use it anywayd no matter what
Doesnt matter if its Windows or Mac
And I do not see not using the mod as a disatvantage in any way since it is purely for fun
The Issue you were rambling about the entire time is almost nonexistant
If you do not like the mod, simply dont use it. And if it doesnt work on your system, thats still fine since its once again just for fun and should in no way be seen as the Main/required Form of communication
And the whole misunderstanding about what doesnt work on Mac could have been easily cleared if you could have not ghosted us for a day and a half
leaden swan
I fail to see how an auto voice chat falls into the category of “fun” rather than “utility (for some)”.
desert flint
Personally, I'm in favor of adding the mod to the server.
My thoughts are that it is mostly for fun, as the only thing it adds that you couldn't do with discord is proximity chat, which is in my opinion a feature mostly done for fun anyways (minecraft prox chat videos are always hilarious). I won't deny it has some utility, but only within the network of people who can/want to use the mod. Outside of that, basically nothing changes.
I would like to point out that I, myself, am a Mac user. Thankfully, the mod is entirely optional and I wouldn't be "missing out" on much because anyone I would really want to chat with would accomodate and either use text chat or discord for voice chat. It would only make things more convinient for players who already are used to using the mod.
leaden swan
Proximity for our server doesn’t even seem too relevant since teams intentionally live far away. Yknow, for security reasons.
desert flint
Good thing it's optional
rich cargo
But that also makes it largely useless
desert flint
Some people also just prefer using it for voice chat because it's more convenient to use it in-game
Rather than fanagling discord and mc at the same time
leaden swan
Those who can use it
desert flint
Which is a nonzero number of people, I imagine
leaden swan
But isn’t 100%
desert flint
Wouldn't make a difference to me of course, but just having the option makes things more convenient and accesible for people who want to use it
leaden swan
Half our team would be excluded and the others don’t speak in public afaik
rich cargo
(Same applies to a lot of other players)
leaden swan
As moderators, we can’t even do our jobs
desert flint
As moderators, we can’t even do our jobs
What does that even mean? Most of the time voice chat and text chat are done 3rd party and can't be moderated anyway
leaden swan
Why would an entire team jump into Discord to tell me which reinforced block owned by “owner” I should break?
desert flint
Wait, I don't understand what you mean, could you repeat? /gen
leaden swan
So say someone asks in #official-mc-server for admin help. And you or I log on to help and /tp to them. Turns out, they’re all in proximity chat but you can’t participate.
desert flint
I mean, you can text chat with them, I don't believe the mod does anything to that feature
leaden swan
Have you ever been in a voice and text chat at the same time?
The text chat totally kills the voice chat for the time being
desert flint
If someone is getting moderator help to fix a server issue I feel like that warrants some dead VC time
Usually it interrupts what is happening anyway, no?
leaden swan
Unless the moderator were able to join the conversation
Not necessarily? Especially if asked for
rich cargo
Also means you wouldnt be able to moderate things said in the voice chat
desert flint
Also means you wouldnt be able to moderate things said in the voice chat
Like I said, we can't do that anyway most of the time
If that were a concern we'd somehow have to ban people from VCing on discord servers and chats that arent ours (And therefore we ourselves would be in violation of the rules)
leaden swan
3rd party platforms technically aren’t our responsibility but if someone starts yelling profanities at spawn using a mod we approved to be on the server, we’d just have to randomly pick a side since we’d have no proof ourselves
rich cargo
(From experience on another server i can verify that this is really annoying)
desert flint
Ooh, okay, now that's a good point! Usually servers have more robust moderation techniques, but us being players ourselves we don't really have the experience to, say, spectator around the perp to confirm their actions
leaden swan
Oh you aren’t op?
Well I am but teleporting would serve nothing since I can’t hear the perp
desert flint
I actually dunno, I never tried, but i meant spectatoring around them would only work with the mod installed, and we don't have robust moderation or moderation experience
Now that, I say, is a good point.
leaden swan
The fact that moderators can’t participate with this mod is a problem
desert flint
Maybe someday we can add the mod but you're right, especially with servers like ours (Low moderation and slow player count) we could absolutely get unmoderatable trolls
Although I'm pretty sure you can mute and block specific players
rich cargo
you can but it doesnt work that well.
desert flint
How so? Does it reset on game open-close or can you still hear them sometimes after doing so?
leaden swan
That’s awkward
rich cargo
and you can see other things from the player still
leaden swan
Tldr we don’t like it
full void
you dont like it
desert flint
I think consensus is drifting towards no because we couldn't moderate it, especially if there are trolls yelling profanities or something, we can't hear it since we dont use the mod
rich cargo
you dont like it
nope we is accurate
leaden swan
We don’t like that some moderators can’t do their jobs
full void
desert flint
Knowing you can deafen or block other players does make me more inclined to be in suport, but I think the answer is pretty rock solid right now
Sorry dude, maybe someday
leaden swan
Chainmail and I are the majority of the North American squad, and neither of us can use this mod in our moderation duties
leaden swan
Leaving Geforce alone to deal with screaming children while bl4ck and Redstone are asleep is not ideal
rich cargo
exactly
leaden swan
Exactly, we’re supposed to be here to get rid of those players
rich cargo
its the internet if someone cant deal with that alone then they shouldnt be here
While generally speaking thats not wrong, its not really how this server works.
full void
then for your moderation purposes you're going to need a computer that can handle the mod if it were to be used
rich cargo
Because its the official server it leaves people with an impression
desert flint
Alright alright people, I think we all get the picture
leaden swan
We aren’t paid enough to buy new hardware thx
rich cargo
Your not payed at all are you?
desert flint
We aren’t paid enough to buy new hardware thx
We aren’t paid
enough to buy new hardware thx
leaden swan
Nah it’s a joke 
bl4ck and Gef get income from Curseforge, Modrinth, and Patreon
Patreon is kinda a joke tho
Extra $1-3 woopdedoooo
rich cargo
yeah
leaden swan
Moral support 
rich cargo
but this is off topic for this channel
leaden swan
Ye
rich cargo
(My inner discord mod showing)
full void
Exactly, we’re supposed to be here to get rid of those players
sounds similar like mojang looking for a good excuse to destroy the community with chat reporting
you cant moderate everything
its just like that
leaden swan
Redstone was in favor of installation last he checked in
full void
people are always going to want freedom one way or another
enough time wasted im out
leaden swan
Mericanada in the house
rich cargo
lol
full void
we're not here for the comedy show
leaden swan
But isn’t your main argument for getting this mod to have comedy?!
desert flint
Alright, I'm gonna close this as denied for now, the consensus is quite clear and continued back-and-forth isn't really getting anywhere lmao
desert flint
Oh were they, my bad
full void
But isn’t your main argument for getting this mod to have comedy?!
the mod is for comedy
and this discussion is for the mod
leaden swan
Literally the issue with installation is that the player base would be divided
full void
the votes seemed about equal last time i checked
its meant to be an optional feature
still
rich cargo
if its between the staff then perhaps the staff should discuss it. (privately)
full void
you dont get to have a word then either if i dont
full void
But moderators must be able to use it
if the moderation is not capable of such
thats kind of bad
leaden swan
Chainmail, think I should ping the devs?
leaden swan
if the moderation is not capable of such
thats kind of bad
Exactly. So mod = bad
full void
incorrect
leaden swan
It’s not the mod’s fault ofc
But that’s the reality of the situation
We can’t use it
full void
but as the very cool and important moderation team you should be able to
because its part of your work
leaden swan
@lunar sinew @dire sluice Sorry for the pings, but we’ve had some developments in here and would like to see if your stances will change as a result.
full void
but as the very cool and important moderation team you should be able to
one way to avoid it is obviously denying the mod
and thats why ofc
I do understand your point of view
Doesnt mean im stepping back from my opinion
in any way
leaden swan
A friend of mine and bl4ck’s was working on a mod that bridged Minecraft and Discord voice chat
leaden swan
I’m not against having in-game voice chat, just the fact that I can’t do my job with this particular mod
full void
A friend of mine and bl4ck’s was working on a mod that bridged Minecraft and Dis...
and as long as it doesnt act as proximity its not the same
apart from that
full void
I’m not against having in-game voice chat, just the fact that I can’t do my job ...
You are correct
If you really care about it that much
there is surely a way to make it work
leaden swan
I’m also iffy on the proximity thing as a security issue. What if someone finds your base and is secretly listening to you?
full void
But bypassing mac security features is like trying to open a safe with scissors
rich cargo
also a good point
rich cargo
But bypassing mac security features is like trying to open a safe with scissors
true, very true.
thats why we got one
leaden swan
Lol I ain’t bypassing anything and if I were to install a VM again, I’d just go back to playing bedrock
full void
Compared to others mac security is obviously better
but nothing is perfect
full void
Lol I ain’t bypassing anything and if I were to install a VM again, I’d just go ...
vm is not what i meant before
leaden swan
Sometimes it’s a bit excessive
full void
As far as i understand,
the current main issue is that the moderators are unable to properly do their job because of the mod compatibility
correct?
rich cargo
Pretty much
leaden swan
Ye
leaden swan
But I still don’t like splitting the player base, secret listening, etc. Although the moderation issue is definitely the biggest concern.
rich cargo
I can see technical ways for the mod developer to make the mod work, but not anything we can do.
full void
not sure if it works
leaden swan
I’m also someone who doesn’t share my voice with complete strangers (anymore) due to sexual harassment 🙃
full void
whoops
leaden swan
I’m also someone who doesn’t share my voice with complete strangers (anymore) du...
But if I could use this mod, then I could just kick them for violating respect rules 
full void
What if, there is another voice chat mod with similar functionality but less compatibility issues with mac?
leaden swan
Earlier in here it was stated that there are no other client-optional voice mods
full void
I am currently doing some research
dire sluice
Goodness sake I took a nap and like 100 more messages appeared
full void
As far as im aware, Plasmo Voice seems to have the same client optional features
leaden swan
Time zone probs
full void
As far as im aware, Plasmo Voice seems to have the same client optional features
Not confirmed though
im going to perform some testing
rich cargo
The same mic access issue applys to all similar mods tho
dire sluice
And yeah considering the moderation aspect, which I haven't back then, I'd also be less in favour of installing that voice mod
rich cargo
a .jar cant be granted mic access
leaden swan
Goodness sake I took a nap and like 100 more messages appeared <:lul:10240625657...
Tldr Chainmail and I realized that as both moderators and Mac users, we can’t do our moderation jobs should someone start screaming at spawn while you and bl4ck are asleep
full void
The same mic access issue applys to all similar mods tho
Then its a mac issue though
if that is true
rich cargo
Thats why it doesent work
full void
apple you....
rich cargo
The mod does not work on Macs because:
Due to the way microphone access works on...
did you not read this?
leaden swan
Ye the mod itself isn’t the issue. It’s basically Apple security around internet downloads
full void
leaden swan
We technically have to bypass security just to download curseforge
leaden swan
There’s a “this file was downloaded from the internet. Are you sure you want to install it?” pop-up
rich cargo
but i did that before
It works on really old versions of macos
full void
There’s a “this file was downloaded from the internet. Are you sure you want to ...
yeaa
full void
It works on really old versions of macos
yeeaa mine is pretty old
rich cargo
so if your mac is ancient it works fine
leaden swan
Rule 1 pls
full void
im stupid sorry
leaden swan
I just updated to the new OS like 2 days ago
But the hardware is 2018 so not obsolete quite yet
leaden swan
Apple encourages upgrading every 5 years but pffffft
full void
its a money waste anyways
rich cargo
if it works it works
leaden swan
Ye my 2018 MBP and iPhone both work great
full void
i dont have any of my macs in my proximity atn
meaning i cant really do testing on that
which sucks
leaden swan
You said they’re both older ones tho
rich cargo
i got the M1 because the previous one was from 2014 and had 4 gigs of ram
full void
You said they’re both older ones tho
yea
rich cargo
i mean yea
rich cargo
i played the 1.16.5 server on it
leaden swan
I had a lot of issues with my first 8gb MBP
full void
could we maybe focus on the main issue again
leaden swan
But that was while I was in digital art school, so I had Maya and PhotoShop and stuff running simultaneously
rich cargo
vanilla felt like launching RLCraft
leaden swan
Now I have 16 and don’t need it
rich cargo
16 is good
leaden swan
could we maybe focus on the main issue again
My computer is paranoid
rich cargo
so is mine
leaden swan
As am I
full void
i did not state that we have to sacrifice your pc for testing
who am i fkin glados?
ignoring that
leaden swan
Oh I’m saying that the main issue is Apple’s slightly overkill security
Which isn’t a problem 99% of the time
rich cargo
Oh I’m saying that the main issue is Apple’s slightly overkill security
I mean have you had any viruses?
leaden swan
Just need to click an extra key or button to launch files
leaden swan
I mean have you had any viruses?
Nope! One of the main reasons I switched over
full void
there must be a way to give a jar mic access though
leaden swan
Also windows 10 was just crap
rich cargo
Nope! One of the main reasons I switched over
Precicely
full void
Also windows 10 was just crap
win 11 is worse
leaden swan
Ewwwwwwww
rich cargo
Also windows 10 was just crap
Its certainly an adjustment from macos
full void
i stayed on 10
onyx lavaBOT
rich cargo
win 11 is worse
I'm gonna have to contest that
full void
its worse than 10
rich cargo
idk
rich cargo
its layed out like macos, so i had an easy time adapting to it.
full void
the win 10 or 11 discussion literally doesnt matter here rn
rich cargo
gp
leaden swan
#off-topic if you want
full void
dont care
rich cargo
same
full void
the thing is it probably is just bad code in the voice chat mod again
there do seem to be ways to give jars microphone access depending on the exact operating systems
rich cargo
You cant on recent version of macos
full void
what exact version of macos are you two using?
rich cargo
(without manual system changes, which wale possible are far outside of the skillset of mosp ppl)
full void
supercat? wbu?
rich cargo
(Latest)
full void
ahh this sucks so much that i cant test it rn
rich cargo
I will try it again later
leaden swan
I updated two days ago so yea it’s latest
rich cargo
(Cant rn cuz school)
dire sluice
Gonna unfollow from this mac centered discussion, please ping me if something important happens again
full void
I updated two days ago so yea it’s latest
the same as Big Gunz?
leaden swan
K!
rich cargo
the same as Big Gunz?
Unless shes on the beta then yea
leaden swan
I doubt I’m on beta
full void
alr then that makes it a bit easier
rich cargo
Its not something you get on by accident
burnt garden
Why would an entire team jump into Discord to tell me which reinforced block own...
I feel targeted
leaden swan
I’ll do beta stuff on my phone and PS4 but not my computer
leaden swan
I feel targeted
Lol just a recent example of me doing admin stuff
burnt garden
Hahah
full void
https://support.apple.com/en-us/102071
feels too simple to be true
but potentially adding java there in itself seems viable
the first screenshot
for java to be registered as an app it might have to be fully installed again
yo anyone of the mac people still here
leaden swan
Hi
burnt garden
This is the most commented suggestion
full void
https://support.apple.com/en-us/102071
feels too simple to be true
but potential...
it might just be unset permissions once again
full void
This is the most commented suggestion
thats funny
full void
the mod is java though
at least that is the case with simple voice chat
DUDE HOW AM I EVEN MEANT TO ATTEMPT ANYTHING WITHOUT A MAC (in reach)
rich cargo
the mod is java though
but its not the Java app that needs access, the java app just acts as a translator
full void
it does seem to be a common issue
rich cargo
DUDE HOW AM I EVEN MEANT TO ATTEMPT ANYTHING WITHOUT A MAC (in reach)
last time i tried there is no work arround for it
full void
what did you try
rich cargo
what did you try
everything i could think of
leaden swan
https://support.apple.com/en-us/102071
feels too simple to be true
but potential...
Mods aren’t apps, so that solution shouldn’t be relevant
rich cargo
Ultimately i modifyed the permissions system manually from the terminal
full void
that is not what i mean
rich cargo
Ultimately i modifyed the permissions system manually from the terminal
(which is vert complicated to do and broke several other things)
full void
the mod is a java application meaning giving java overall permission may do something
rich cargo
tried that
full void
you only tried with simple voice chat though i assume
full void
i have not fully read this but this could also be something
https://github.com/henkelmax/simple-voice-chat/tree/1.18.2/macos#macos-microphone-permission-hack
leaden swan
It says the “hack” is outdated
full void
just means it hasnt been updated to the latest mod version
doesnt mean it doesnt work
may i ask what kind of launcher you are using on mac for the mods?
I do highly recommend prism launcher
leaden swan
Vanilla launcher with Forge
full void
bruh
leaden swan
Here's that mic permissions screen btw
full void
mhmmmm
its using the default java within the launcher
https://www.oracle.com/de/java/technologies/downloads/#jdk17-mac
i am unsure of how it works on mac but installing java jdk as an application may let it use permissions
i really cant help much as i said i do not have my macs atm
we'll have to put this on hold until i can get access to my mac again
or someone volunteers to do some small tests
which is unlikely
bye until then
I have found some information that using a different launcher does seem to affect it for some people
this sucks
lets go time to make 4 different vms and hope that one of em works
rich cargo
Dudu just accept it won't work