Quake 4 lightning gun

[tulip scarab]

same as glenn's smart pistol

[grave iron]

I thought it used loki ammo

Which is infinite

Do it

Infinite ammo with overheat for primary fire
Power cells for alt fire

[tulip scarab]

👍

also idk if these are good or bad news but the overheat skip issue is happening less often, but more inconsistently

so its less likely to happen but also more unpredictable

[grave iron]

As I understand it heat is generated per shot. I suspect that insane fire rate is causing the issues. Can you raise heat capacity/lower heat generation for gun to last 5 seconds?

Add more details to animation like claws flipping and capsules acting chaotically(one is rapidly closing and opening, other is stuck and the third is struggling to close). At the end of animation doorguy just punches the gun, intimidating it to work again

This could also be used to increase the duration of overheat, making it more punishing

[tulip scarab]

good idea, would add a lot of character to the anims

[tulip scarab]

Currently each shot adds 2 heat, and the gun fires at 2000 rpm (0.03 seconds per shot), not sure if that lasts 5 seconds since I haven't done the math nor counted

previously the heat per shot was higher, to make getting to the overheat point faster

[grave iron]

Lower the heat to 1 and count how long it can fire before overheating

[tulip scarab]

IIRC it overheats around 100 heat

[grave iron]

Hm..

Is it possible to increase that cap?

[tulip scarab]

no idea

but heat can be set to less than 1

so its possible to fine tune it

[tulip scarab]

if I did my math right it should be overheating around 1.5 seconds of continuous fire

by that logic, if I set the heat per shot to .6 it should last about 5 seconds

[grave iron]

Making it last 10 seconds for babed version is gonna be a challenge

[tulip scarab]

not really

just gotta halve the amount

make it .3 instead of .6

though from playing with heat enabled for a bit I think 5 and 10 seconds might be too long tbh

[tulip scarab]

cuz even with it set to that I barely ever ran into overheating

since true, continuous firing isn't something that happens very often, the gun gets a lot of chances to breathe and let its heat meter cool off

[grave iron]

We can fine tune the numbers

But honestly I'd love to fire longer without overheat. More fun that way

coming back to this. The way I see it swaping to alt fire should always sets it mag size to 0, so you'll have to start charging(play reload animation) which you can interrupt to fire

[tulip scarab]

I was thinking the same thing

recently figured out that all I need to do that is to plug a negative number into the reloadinsertammo animation event

so it would basically just have an animation event that adds -30 rounds every time you go into alt fire

[grave iron]

hah, nice

[tulip scarab]

progress report: it don't work

[grave iron]

Have you followed andrew's guide for segmented reloading?

[tulip scarab]

I did, the issues I had were mostly stuff it didn't cover

[grave iron]

Ask andrew for guidence?

[tulip scarab]

one of the issues I had was properly playing each charge level anim (it would instead just replay the first one thrice)

he could probably help with that

but for some reason the burst shot wouldn't fire less than 2 shots, and I couldn't really mask the fact there were multiple projectiles being fired

[tulip scarab]

Overall idk if this can be viable with some more work or not tbh

the biggest issue I'm having is the fact that the gun is already in a pretty complete state, so its very easy to break it when I start messing around with it and hard to get it back into a functional state

I'm gonna mess around with this concept a little more and see what I can get out of it

[tulip scarab]

gonna make a separate, extremely barebones gun so I can test this without breaking the lightning gun

[grave iron]

Be sure to ask andrew. He should help out

[grave iron]

Cant you just play entire charge animation during segmented reloading?

[tulip scarab]

this mostly works

its still a little buggy tho

big issue is you can't interrupt a reload with a fire mode switch, so once you start charging, you're stuck

and it immediately starts charging once you fire, so that's another issue

also plays the whole reload regardless of your reserve ammo

[tulip scarab]

also has issues where it fires a 2 round burst even when it shouldn't be able to

this only happened when I sped up the ROF though

it might be the same issue I'm having with the primary fire

[grave iron]

Interupting reload with alt fire switch is impossible, cus it lead to gun breaking bugs in the past

[tulip scarab]

the gun automatically reloads when empty, and has no proper reload end, so you only get to switch back to primary fire when its reserves completely run dry, which is quite difficult with cells, since they recover over time

this might be what kills this concept tbh

[grave iron]

Hm. Make reload manual(press reload button) and mark the end of charging animation as reload ending. See if that works

[tulip scarab]

haven't seen a way to make the reload manual, I'm pretty sure every other gun just does it automatically when it runs dry

adding a proper reload end event would work, but you'd still have to wait the full lenght of the reload to switch back

overall I think a custom script that allows for a variable charge would produce a better result, and could probably be used in future mods

[grave iron]

I dont see problem with that. You commit to using such powerfull shot. Plus imagine what would happen if you try to switch weapon mode in a middle of energy concentration process. Thats dangerous

[grave iron]

Unfortinatly we dont have it

[tulip scarab]

my main issue is you cannot cancel the charge, and you don't choose when it starts

so it stops being something that adds nuance and startegy to the gun's use and instead becomes more of an annoyance

[grave iron]

Thats bad..
Are you able to make a custom script?

[tulip scarab]

I highly doubt I can, I don't know where I'd even begin if I did try it

[grave iron]

guess we're out of options but to ask andrew for help

[tulip scarab]

yup

probably gonna have to be something like this then

with animation triggers that switch between different projectile stats, allowing for distinct charge levels

[grave iron]

@topaz cedar We're in need of your wisdow

[topaz cedar]

Mm

[grave iron]

We have problem with implementing alt fire

again

[topaz cedar]

Yes go on

[grave iron]

Ok, so Swoi tried to implement the charging mechanic via segmented reloading; basicly reloading the gun before it can be fired with the amount of ammo in the 'mag' determining its damage. But it leaves you with no control - the gun starts 'reloading' the moment you swap fire mode and you can't cancel the process

Anyway you can help?

[tulip scarab]

It starts charging immediately when you switch into alt fire and after every shot (so long as there's ammo in reserve)

Ideally it would at least mimic this

[grave iron]

No way to disable auto reloading?

[tulip scarab]

Also, this may or may not be useful in this project, but how is the stripper clip anim on the bolt action implemented?

Cuz if the charge reload thing ends up being the way whe go about having a variable charge then I'll need a way to make each insert anim distinct

[grave iron]

might need to ping him again, he's more likely to pay attention to you than to me

[grave iron]

I bet its 'on empty' reload

[tulip scarab]

@topaz cedar

[tulip scarab]

That's what I initially assumed, but the BABE'd variant for that only uses the stripper clip animations whenever you have more than a multiple of 5 rounds left

like if you have 9 rounds it uses a stripper clip and then hand loads 4

Is this where reload types come in?

Basically the idea on the lightning gun was to have it use charge level 1 whenever you have 0 rounds, level 2 when you have 10 and level 3 when you have 20

reloading 10 rounds each time

[topaz cedar]

I'd have to get in a VC to see what the issue is

[tulip scarab]

I just wanna know how to have the reload insert anims switch depending on how many round you have loaded

but tbh I think a proper variable charge script would be a better solution for the lightning gun than the charge reload thing

[tulip scarab]

oh yeah, btw, it stutters briefly between the reload start and insert, is that supposed to happen?

[grave iron]

You heard the man, Swoi

[tulip scarab]

I can get in VC, but I don't have a mic

I'd have to talk through text

[grave iron]

The true way to communication

[grave iron]

do it and drag Andrew in. somebody has to start with the vc communication

[tulip scarab]

raised ROF from 0 to .04, burst is now very noticeable but otherwise it seems to be fixed, might change the projectile particle system a bit. also raised primary fire ROF from .03 to .04

overheat actually takes a lot longer than I thought, so I'll mess around with it until I hit the target time

Issue where it paused briefly between insert anims was my fault, its fixed now

reverting to the fully segmented charge reload to experiment further and trying to clean up any associated issues rn

still don't fully understand how to make the insert anims switch based on ammo

[tulip scarab]

Alt fire basically single loads 3 rounds then burst fires all of them at once, each insert anim is supposed to be distinct, but I haven't been able to make it use more than 2 different insert anims an once

I presume it requires me to use the reload types function to work, but I've got no clue how to use that

I'll send a video of the gun's current state when I clean it up a bit more

[tulip scarab]

Timed it, took a whole 17 seconds to overheat

[tulip scarab]

takes 5 secs to overheat now

[tulip scarab]

haven't been able to clean it up much, so I'll just send a video of it as is

[tulip scarab]

turns out this also causes issues

Yeah I'm thinking the charge reload thing isn't gonna work

[tulip scarab]

vimdeo

[grave iron]

Seems like we need a new concept for alt fire..

[tulip scarab]

could omit it entirely on the base gun

have it be exclusively on the undying light

tbh I still think the charge shot is good, its just that the variable charge has a lot of issues

[tulip scarab]

especially implementing it this way

[tulip scarab]

speaking of that, I'm gonna start on the implementation for the BABE variant

[grave iron]

We can scrap variable charge part and shorten the charge anination to be just claw opening with ball forming; then have 2-3 sec reload with capsules opening

Alternetavly there's is another idea to try: heavy arc shot that creates static aoe explosion

[tulip scarab]

would be interesting to have a lingering effect like with the incendiary grenade

or a cluster effect, where the main explosion spawns smaller explosions near itself

I think that might be doable even without custom scripts

[grave iron]

How about creating a hazzard zone that deals static damage to foes?

[naive stream]

Lightning storm

[grave iron]

A storm that is aproaching

[tulip scarab]

I've got an idea for the alt fire

chain explosions

each enemy caught in the initial explosion will, itself, explode

by doing this you get a fire mode that is extremely effective at managing crowds yet almost useless for individual enemies and small groups

[naive stream]

Or just use the sun

[tulip scarab]

fair enough lmao

[grave iron]

Hm. A lightning blast triggering domino effect. I like it

Static for everyone

[tulip scarab]

also made the primary fire chain to enemies immediately next to the one you're shooting at

[grave iron]

nice

[tulip scarab]

gun

[livid bobcat]

augh

[grave iron]

Oh
My
God!

I'm like what I see, but why does awe have green colour instead of orange?

also send me the files, I wanna play test it on enranged

[tulip scarab]

Just on a whim

also matches the cells it uses for ammo, since other cell guns have green (like the BHG)

[grave iron]

Hm, fair point

[tulip scarab]

Will do

oh yeah

btw

[grave iron]

ye?

[tulip scarab]

I did a run earlier where I was testing it

just normal difficulty and no runes

managed to beat blade sentinel

[grave iron]

Gonna start up the stream and try enranged difficulty(no runes)

ha

[tulip scarab]

lol

[grave iron]

does alt fire consumes 35 power cells?

[tulip scarab]

yes

I was thinking of changing it to 33 before sending the .weapon file but I forgot

[grave iron]

I think 30 would be better

would've got to blade sentinel if I knew about ammo cost

[tulip scarab]

33 and 30 ammo consumption are almost the same in practice, since both represent 3 consecutive shots before having to wait for the cells to recharge

[grave iron]

Regarding primary fire:
-Lower overheat capacity to 3.5 seconds
-Static is too good for this fire mode, I think. Turns mostly singe target fire mode into horde cleaner. How about swapping to fire?

[tulip scarab]

difference being how long you have to wait when that happens

[grave iron]

Electricity does a good job setting things on fire

[tulip scarab]

I'll do that

do you think I should also remove the slight chain effect from the primary fire?

Or do I just leave it?

[grave iron]

I think it should be somewhat stronger

cus I haven't even noticed it

probably because of static

[tulip scarab]

Tbh its also cuz I kinda nerfed it to the ground after a little bit of testing

Was too good of a crowd killer so I overcorrected

[grave iron]

Partly revert the nerf and see how its gonna work out witout static

[tulip scarab]

Main things I did to nerf it were limit how many enemies it can chain between and the distance at wich it chains

I'll increase the latter while keeping the former to its current amount of one (1)

[grave iron]

Hm. Use original values for babed version?

[tulip scarab]

Probably not gonna use the same as the original, maybe chain to 2 or 3 enemies and have an even longer range

main issue with the original was it was set up such that any enemy hit by the explosion would emit the same explosion, which would also hit itself

so it would just loop until it died

I fixed it by having the impact effect of the first explosion be a separate explosion that doesn't chain and deals less damage

[tulip scarab]

the alt fire originally also had the same setup

with the light show that is its particle system, every time it hit a crowd my fps just tanked

[grave iron]

Found a bug: if you swap the gun during overheat animation it stops working

Also minor fuckery with pick up animation for both lightning gun and your smg

argh, why its not properly displays the vid

ah, there we go

[topaz cedar]

Yep, gotta set the sway speed

[tulip scarab]

Is this happening on any other modded guns?

Cuz its one of the issues I was having here #oswald-suggestions message

[tulip scarab]

what do I set the sway speed to?

IIRC I just set it yo the amount that was in the tutorial

[grave iron]

only with the ones blessed by your touch

[tulip scarab]

So just the lightning gun, M2R8-K and WZP1

hm

[tulip scarab]

sway stats on lightning gun

Sway stats on M2R8-K

[livid bobcat]

I’m using the base sway stats (that you recommended) and scaling it to four and in still having that weird pickup, on all of the mods

[tulip scarab]

whats weird is you used the base sway stats yet yours is the only gun I don't have sway issues with

like its still got the weird pickup

but it doesn't look like a vr game

[livid bobcat]

Hold on lemme check something

I might have had a revelation

(I just got home)

WOW was I wrong

I thought that the weapons you directly built to GTTOD do that and not workshop subscribed weapons but the Cold War doesn’t do it anymore and the banana did

I can send you all the stats for the Cold War to see if you can fix that

[tulip scarab]

the draw issue seems absent in the USP and the Scattercaster, while the sway seems normal on the Cold War

So a combination of the two might fix everything

[livid bobcat]

I didn’t get the draw issue

[topaz cedar]

Yeah it's you goofy goobers not me

What you don't know is that the bugs you have are also the bugs I have since that's literally just my weapon script copy and pasted over into the mod tools lmao

So I'm right here in the trenches with ya my gamers

Generally speaking, you can make MOST guns

The fact that the lightning gun even exists in MK1 of the mod tools is nuts

I'd say this one is really pushing the current weapon system

[grave iron]

Wonder what we can do when the tools will be expanded and updated

Cus I wanna participate in creating more unique weapons like our lightning gu

[tulip scarab]

figured that was the case, gonna have a look and see what I can do about the pickup, but I have no idea what's causing the sway issues

[tulip scarab]

Implementing this thing has been a constant game of pinball

slamming full speed against walls until things fall into place and work properly

[grave iron]

Just noticed: alt fire explosion consumes your dashes..for some reason

[tulip scarab]

pretty sure every explosion does that

for example: #gttod-speedruns message

explosions drain your dashes and immediately start recharging them

[grave iron]

Hm..

[grave iron]

I think its too early to ask, but any news on implementing babe version?

[tulip scarab]

I'll update the anims to match the changes I made while implementing the base variant, then I'll start implementing it

[grave iron]

got it

Meanwhile I'm thinking on how to imporive the alt fire for undying light

How about this: ball does not expire upon explosion and creates damage zone, dealing damage to all enemies in radius for couple seconds before expiering

[tulip scarab]

good idea, I'd love to make it more of an area denial weapon

though idk if the current explosion script can really do that

[grave iron]

You can try to trigger effect after explosion

and use elite shade's aura to mark the damage zone

[grave iron]

https://youtu.be/h9_PQbEXOYg

[coral lava]

Oh my goood

[tulip scarab]

help

[coral lava]

Doomed

[tulip scarab]

pain

explanation:
chains and gun collide with player, creating a constant force vector (also collide with projectiles, causing them to explode immediately)

possible fix:
make it so the weapon layer's physics don't interact with other layers (player & default)

method:
literally just uncheck a couple boxes in the project settings (physics tab -> layer collision matrix)

problem:
you'd need to change the actual game to do that (outside the scope of the mod tools)

[coral lava]

Maybe don't have physics on chains ? It is cool none the less but still

Ya gotta change the game :)))

[tulip scarab]

for now I'll leave the chains as they are but without collision, so they'll just phase through the gun

[grave iron]

Chains clipping throught the gun looks wierd. Cant you limit their movement?

[tulip scarab]

Its mostly a temporary solution until I think of something better, but I can try to limit their movement to reduce clipping

I'll leave that for when I have it almost fully implemented though

[tulip scarab]

after some more testing it seems the collision on the chains isn't actually causing any issues, it was the gun's collision

so I'll try some things out to see if I can fix that

[tulip scarab]

its fixed

[late patrol]

yippee

[grave iron]

Nice
I think the mini screen could be used to display heat gauge/ammo(up to 99 ammo)

[tulip scarab]

actually it kinda works but I'm still having some issues

most of them related to the chains colliding with things they shouldn't

I'll give some other stuff a shot before moving on with implementation, but ideally having the weapon layer's physics, at least its collision, not interact with the rest of the layers would pretty much completely solve this, I think

[grave iron]

In worst case scenario you can disable chain physic all together

[tulip scarab]

true

I don't think it'll get to that point though, tbh

also

unrelated

but I found something funny that's probably also present in the file I sent you

jump and then shoot at the ground below you with primary fire

you'll float

[grave iron]

Huh. Need to test that

[silver shard]

Is the gun moving the player?

[grave iron]

Yes. It plays the game for you

[silver shard]

Lol

This gun is more powerful than doorguy

[tulip scarab]

you know how if you pick up a box in a source game and stand on top of it you start to fly

same concept

[tulip scarab]

got rid of the collision on the chains, locked a couple in place/restricted rotation to prevent clipping instead

not the best solution, but it mostly works

[grave iron]

sad source noises

[tulip scarab]

Overheat on the undying light is set to take roughly 10 seconds

[grave iron]

More than double compared to base version

[tulip scarab]

pretty much

all thats really left now are the sound effects, I think

[grave iron]

Have you added extra effect to alt fire?

[tulip scarab]

not yet

gonna see what I can do about that

[tulip scarab]

update: my idea for how I was gonna implement it failed

[tulip scarab]

anyways, gun

[coral lava]

I am simply amazed what you guys did with this weapon model both in sound and effects and pretty much anything

My hat's off to you

[tulip scarab]

I'm honestly quite happy with how it turned out

[late patrol]

as you should be

[tulip scarab]

there's a couple things that aren't quite perfect (chains and alt fire especially), but overall it ended up pretty good

[tulip scarab]

@grave iron thoughts?

[grave iron]

Litteraly just woke up

Okay, this looks amazing. Just need to cook up better sounds for undying light, fine tune the balance

And present it with style..with a small trailer

[tulip scarab]

Gonna clean up the project file so its more readable, zip it up and send it to you then

[grave iron]

Dont rush with file sending yet. I 'm gonna try to make more beefy sounds for undying light + I think it would be cool to have an idle sound like bhg

Also dont you think that awe mode should be green for both versions of the gun?

[tulip scarab]

idk tbh

its up to you

[grave iron]

I'd say make it green to be consistent. Plus its gonna look better this way

[tulip scarab]

good point, since the green is supposed to indicate the use of cells

[grave iron]

Yup

Once I get home i'll get to sound making. Got some ideas

[tulip scarab]

Want me to send you all the anims rendered individually, to make it easier to line up the sounds?

or just the blend file, since you could just plop the wav files in the video editor

[grave iron]

Send the animation renders cus I dont have blender

[tulip scarab]

👍

actually, the primary fire sounds don't really need to be lined up, since they're split into three

just gotta make sure the loop part loops properly

I'll render the rest and send it

[tulip scarab]

Generic variant

BABE variant

Do note that a couple of the anims have been modified after being exported, so its a good idea to check the videos I sent as well as the gun in game for reference

Those changes being primarily the inclusion of the lightning arcs and the lightning ball in a number of anims, as well as making the capsules move on the alt inspects

[grave iron]

Can you send me the sound samples you used for overheating and claws?

[grave iron]

I've come with the goods

[tulip scarab]

Don't remember exactly what sounds I used for the overheat, on the claws I used the grab a gun sound on the generic variant and a mix of the spike trap and blade sentinel hit sounds on the BABE gun

I'll send you the audio folder with all the current sounds if you need them for reference

[grave iron]

I think its unneeded now. After replaying the latest vid for god kbows how long, I belive most of the sounds are in the good spot. I did made a new sounds for inspect and updated the ones for base and babe variant

also when inspecting the gun in awe mode, you should play charging sound(base of babed) instead of silly made placeholder

[grave iron]

Completly forgot to add this

[tulip scarab]

is the beeping in the start supposed to be there?

[grave iron]

Shit, let me get rid of it real quick

[tulip scarab]

same with the primary fire sound, it has a wind up at the start and a wind down at the end despite being a loop

also tbh I'm not sure how well the explosion/thunder crack sound is gonna fit amongst the rest of the sfx

feels a little out of place

same with the loud tv beep/buzzer on the overheat sound you sent

[grave iron]

I thought it'd be funny. Guess I'll dive back and remake these sounds

[tulip scarab]

tbh, while it doesn't fit in a loop, I kinda like the beeping sounds

it'd be nice to sneak that into some of the other sfx

like right after the capsules finish expanding in the overheat, just before the return to idle

[grave iron]

Its suppose to play at the end of inspect animation when you get zapped

Hense the name

[tulip scarab]

I meant the one at the start of the idle loop, but the buzzer sound might fit if its a little quieter and synced with the capsule expansion

[grave iron]

I just had a though: can gun have multiple sounds to play randomly when overheat animation ends?

[tulip scarab]

I actually don't know

it might be

[grave iron]

imagine what we can do with this. Beeped sounds, some random gun sounds stolen from DG2

[tulip scarab]

in the animation functions you have a slider for the chance to play, two values that determine the sfx range (changes pitch IIRC), and a way to add more than one sound file

on the last one idk if it just picks one randomly or plays all of them at once

[grave iron]

only I way to know for sure

aand I've done updating the sounds as you asked

[tulip scarab]

last second-ish of the fire loop the background noises cut out and it just sounds like a stun gun

also idle loop has a short part right at the start where it sounds odd

[tulip scarab]

culprit spotted (bunched up waves right at the start)

just got rid of the first half second-ish of sound and now it loops perfectly

[tulip scarab]

Btw, are the base and BABE variants supposed to share the same primary fire start or should they be different?

[grave iron]

I thought about using quake 3 fire start sound for base version, but you said it might not fit in with the loop sound; but you can certantly try and see how that'll sound

[tulip scarab]

have a look (listen?)

added little electrical sparks to match the new idle sounds

[grave iron]

The sound is definitely fits in perfectly

But I think the sparks should appear on claws

[naive stream]

Maybe on the awe mode?

[tulip scarab]

wdym? like on the inside faces?

[grave iron]

Yeah + the top circilaw claws

[tulip scarab]

gun

[livid bobcat]

its so sexy

[tulip scarab]

@grave iron I'll send you the .weapon file so you can try it out in its current state, want me to zip up the project file and send that as well?

[grave iron]

@livid bobcat Can you do a poster similar to this, but for lightning gun?

[livid bobcat]

yea

@tulip scarab you got any cool poses of the lightning gun in action

either with no background or the workshop background

both work

[tulip scarab]

does this work?

Or this

[livid bobcat]

Yea

[tulip scarab]

Was fixing the offhand so it would go away properly when wallrunning and swimming and got a little silly while I was at it

[grave iron]

If you can dual wield mgl, why not

Tho there's still a bug with overheat swapping causing weapon to stop working

[tulip scarab]

as in swapping mid overheat and having it stay at 0 ammo after you switch back?

[grave iron]

Nah. If you swap the gun during overheat and swap back it stops working. Cant shoot it, switch fire modes, inspect it

[tulip scarab]

If you use force draw it'll work

reason that happens is the free refil event

it only plays around the middle of the overheat anim, so if you swap before that you'll get stuck

[tulip scarab]

There's one on the draw anim as well, though, which is why this works

I can move the event earlier or add it to the idle, that might fix it for good

did the latter, seems to have worked

[livid bobcat]

would you like the same font of a different style or a differnt font?

https://gyazo.com/1dec6299a7b9817e80de1db47993d04a

could try https://gyazo.com/9e74163cfbbf561743ad9c079314c24c

[livid bobcat]

early version

i hope you know im not a graphic designer

[keen ocean]

w

slaps ass

[grave iron]

Looks solid so far

[grave iron]

Deffinetly worth trying

[topaz cedar]

W

[grave iron]

adding in dev tag 1393 messages later

[coral lava]

How close are we ?

[grave iron]

Uh...'Waiting for final changes and poster before release' close

[coral lava]

Can't wait

Need now :)

[livid bobcat]

what else would you like for the banner

[grave iron]

I honestly dunno

absolute creative freedom for ya

[livid bobcat]

I don’t wanna add too much and clutter it up

It is just a banner after all

[grave iron]

You can leave it as it is, maybe add some minor details

[livid bobcat]

Yea prob

[livid bobcat]

just added some nice quotes and changed the compositing a lil bit

dman the bloon bright af in that pic

different in the render

thats better

@grave iron hows this

[grave iron]

First: its bit hard to read yellow text on white background
Sexond: you forgot to credit Chris Wizardman for making both models

[livid bobcat]

oh I didn’t know he made the models

And I’ll change the yellow quote text

added chris and same outlining to the quote

best vers so far

[grave iron]

probably should rename me to L. Shadow

[coral lava]

It feels unreal :_)

[coral lava]

Uncut the sentence

:)))

[coral lava]

Imo the first one looks better

That and you forgot that "lazy" in shadow's name :)))

[grave iron]

My name is too lazy to render

[coral lava]

For real ?

[grave iron]

Dunno, might be

[livid bobcat]

ye

I’ll do it tonight when I get back home

[coral lava]

Based

[grave iron]

Swoi, is the gun ready?

[livid bobcat]

ooga unga

[grave iron]

[coral lava]

Tommorow I'm coming home , if this gun is ready tommorow then it will be perfect timing

[grave iron]

'my body is ready' moment

[coral lava]

Yes :)))

[naive stream]

Longest time so far that a mod has been seen to completion

[grave iron]

Waiting for Swoi to give the green light with the finalized files

[tulip scarab]

I'm pretty much done

want me to zip it up and send it over?

[grave iron]

yup.
also would you kindly teach me how to upload stuff on workshop?

[grave iron]

Seems like different games have different methods of uploading and none is quick.
What do I need for uploading?

[tulip scarab]

step 1: open mod tools

step 2: fill in the left over spaces

(steam id and description)

step 3: boot up GTTOD

step 4: open the console and type upload

step 5: select the mod you wanna upload and you're done

[tulip scarab]

btw do I leave dual wield on or do I turn it off?

[coral lava]

It is happening

My fucking god I'm shaking

[tulip scarab]

gonna leave it on for now

zip

bruh

zip file ended up twice as big as the cap for dms, might just add a password and send it here

[coral lava]

Best option

[tulip scarab]

@grave iron I'll send you the password for it in DMs

[tulip scarab]

you do need to have unity and the mod tools installed for this btw

[livid bobcat]

GTTOD group project gets an A+ grade

[coral lava]

@grave iron i would advise the tutorial made by Andrew , it really helps

[coral lava]

I hope :))))

[grave iron]

Just woke up.
Sobody send me the mod tools and link to the tutorial. I'll get it done once I'm home from work

[tulip scarab]

link to mod tools and the unity version you need to use them are both in #modding-start

[livid bobcat]

cant you just upload it?

[grave iron]

Sigh
This is no easy process. Bear with me, I'm downloading another version of unity just to open mod tools

[grave iron]

@topaz cedar following your guide to set up mod tools, so I can upload the gun, but I can't set up custom mod path cus the game won't save the imputed path

[topaz cedar]

Yeah something went odd with it last update

Already reported

[grave iron]

Weeeeeeeeel shit

[topaz cedar]

Are you hitting "enter", are you in the main menu, or are you press the X at the top left?

These are all relevant

[grave iron]

Yes I'm pressing enter
No, I'm not in the main menu cus application option dosen't exist there
And yes, I'm pressing X

[topaz cedar]

Roger, also true I forgot about that

Try hitting escape when you set it

[grave iron]

already tied that

[topaz cedar]

mm

[grave iron]

no results(

[topaz cedar]

Paste the path

[grave iron]

d:\GTTODMods
very creative, I know

[topaz cedar]

Literally what mine is, too

[grave iron]

exept for the drive

[tulip scarab]

if you're on dev branch you could try downgrading to the public build before setting the mod path, then update back to dev branch or just upload from public build

might work

[grave iron]

Okay, the mod path is set but for some reason the game does not see the mod

[tulip scarab]

odd

[grave iron]

Can't even spawn the gun

[tulip scarab]

do you have the .weapon file in the mod folder?

[grave iron]

I don't think so. I put there the unpacked zip file you sent me

am I missing something here?

[tulip scarab]

zip file doesn't go in there

goes in mod tools

in the weapon mods folder

mod-tools/Assets/0. GTTOD/0. Mods/1. WeaponMods

[tulip scarab]

unzip the mod tools zip file, stick the lightning gun zip file in this directory, then unzip the lightning gun zip file

[grave iron]

jees I feel stupid for not knowing this

[tulip scarab]

after that open the mod tools with unity hub

[tulip scarab]

then do these

[grave iron]

isn't ingame upload function suppose to work?

[tulip scarab]

it does

it uses the .weapon file

which is generated by mod tools

[grave iron]

aaah, I think I get it now

[tulip scarab]

when you select create asset bundles IIRC

you gotta add your mod folder (the one the game uses) into the mod tools, but I don't remember where it goes

might be explained in the readme included into the mod tools, or in the mod tools c# script itself

[grave iron]

Uh. right. Opened mod tools
How do I acsess required window?

[tulip scarab]

https://youtu.be/Vmp7L0BHXYk

[grave iron]

nvm, I think I found it

[tulip scarab]

gun prefab

[grave iron]

workshop description
Hm...can this be edited in steam workshop?

[tulip scarab]

might be, idk

haven't tried

[grave iron]

I..think I've uploaded it

[coral lava]

don't think so

[grave iron]

its in private mode right now

[grave iron]

Okay. everything seems to be ready. I just need to make the mod visible for everyone somehow. I'll firgue that tommorow

[naive stream]

It just takes a minute

It’s really sloe

[grave iron]

I can't firgue out how to chance the damn privacy settings, and for some bloody reason can't get the thumbnail to show up

@tulip scarab need help here

[tulip scarab]

I'm gonna be real

I got no clue what your issue is

[grave iron]

lets start with the thumbnail. How did you make it appear on your mod?

[tulip scarab]

I didn't have do anything special

everything just showed up when I uploaded it

though my thumbnail got squished into a square for some reason

does the gun show up in game for you, at least?

[grave iron]

yeah

[tulip scarab]

hm

did you input your steam id properly?

[grave iron]

I just can't chance the privacy setting cus its not even avaible on the workshop page

[grave iron]

yeah, I did

[tulip scarab]

idk if its a matter of privacy settings, since it shows 0.000 mb

but then again I can't read what anything says on that screenshot so I might be missing something

[grave iron]

This song and dance around workshop is gonna take forever, people are waiting in anticipation and I'm exhausted after never ending hard work.

Swoi, can you do the honor and publish the mod yourself?

[tulip scarab]

tbh I'd prefer if you did it, in case you wanna update it in the future

[grave iron]

true that. I'm gonna try again, see if I made a mistake somewhere along the path

I've found the problem
@topaz cedar your mod upload tools are broken

It uploads blank with no content or file size

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdEQmpVIE4A&ab_channel=teej

[topaz cedar]

(Except for the fact that if that were true, the workshop would be empty)

[grave iron]

you could've broke it with one of the updates

The gun is working in game

but nothing arrives at workshop

0 mb

no wonder I can't publish it

[naive stream]

Just give it a moment or two

[grave iron]

what do you mean?

[naive stream]

It takes a damn long while for steam to upload for some reason

Like an hour-day

[grave iron]

Hm..I'll wait some more then

[grave iron]

Welp, still nothing,
Swoi, Chrish. Can any of you try to upload the mod and see if the workshop thing is broken or not?

[livid bobcat]

Did you add the thing at the bottom right

I forgot what it’s called

[coral lava]

want me to upload it for good ?

to me should work

[coral lava]

@topaz cedar

tried uploading it too and it's the same problem

[tulip scarab]

gonna give it a shot, maybe compression killed the file or something, idk

it shows up in game

huh

[livid bobcat]

modding broark

[topaz cedar]

Uhohhh

Hmmm

I haven't fucked with it at all either

What version of Unity are you on?

[topaz cedar]

Switch to 2019.4.40

It's linked in #modding-start

[tulip scarab]

doing that this millisecond

[topaz cedar]

I wonder if that's what it is

[tulip scarab]

Probably not

since lazy and chris had the same issue

I kinda doubt all 3 of us had the wrong version of unity installed

though I do wonder if some of the issues I was having were caused by that

[tulip scarab]

same result

[grave iron]

Unity hub forced me to download diffrent version just to open the mod tools

[topaz cedar]

It wouldn't matter if the original asset bundle was created from a separate Unity project

But yeah

I think there's something fucky wucky going on here

And I have a hunch of what it could be

Nope nevermind that wasn't it lol

I wasn't signed into Steam

Otherwise it worked fine

So uhhh

Let me try from Steam rq

I'm gonna have to see what's going on on your end

Because it's definitely with the file

All my other weapons are uploading too

@grave iron @livid bobcat @tulip scarab

And also others are uploading mods too

Sam uploaded a music mod the other day

I hid your attempts as incompatible, @grave iron your page seemed way further along so I can unmark it once we get this adjusted

My guess is something is wrong in your mod settings, like perhaps the Steam ID

But my guesses have all been wrong so uhh

We'll see

[coral lava]

@topaz cedar so this is you , then ?

[topaz cedar]

If you had uploaded a failed attempt and it was at 0MB then yeah

[coral lava]

yea

[livid bobcat]

if it’s just the mods uploading being broken could it have been a steam update or something, considering mods still work fine?

[topaz cedar]

The mod uploading is not broken

The mod is missing something

I dunno what it is, I'd have to see myself

[livid bobcat]

oooh I see what you mean now

what’s that thing in the bottom right you have to do I forget

[grave iron]

I'll send you the password to the archive swoi dropped here in dm

[grave iron]

Got a small visual bug here

[tulip scarab]

?

[grave iron]

the overheat screen is broke and is goes outside the model

[tulip scarab]

oh

I see it now

[grave iron]

also Undying light's awe inspect are using the wrong sound again

btw guess the reason why the mod was broken

[tulip scarab]

why?

[grave iron]

Thumbnail was above 1mb

[tulip scarab]

bruh

[grave iron]

yeeeep

But its fixed now and as you can see, Andrew loving it

[tulip scarab]

splendid

[grave iron]

Can fix the bugs later

[tulip scarab]

true, so long as they aren't anything huge we can just fix them whenever

[grave iron]

yup. 2 minor bugs and quality of life change to have

[tulip scarab]

I actually think I know what caused this, should be an extremely easy fix tbh

[late patrol]

this could just be a me problem, but for shock the overheat is bugged

[grave iron]

what's wrong with it?

[late patrol]

when it overheats if I keep holding the button it shoots one more little bit and then bugs out and wont shoot al all until I switch weapons

[tulip scarab]

pain

[grave iron]

Better to accumilate feedback and fixes before updating the mod

In any case I already want to make another gun; maybe not as crazy as lightning gun

[tulip scarab]

I was having this issue before, I thought I'd managed to fix it but if its still happening then I'm gonna have to figure out a more permanent fix

[tulip scarab]

same tbh, I wanna finish up the draco

[naive stream]

Y’all got the dub

[crimson dust]

holy hell i shoulda been watching this

this cool af i gotta check this out

strange, isn't downloading for me for whatever reason

[coral lava]

and we have it , ladies and gentlemen

[grave iron]

take second one

[grave iron]

Okay. I'm gonna post my weapon concepts here so we can decide which one is the coolest and worth making

Quake champtions super shotgun
Its a double barrel, but better. Nothing too crazy or complex about it

Pair of Trident.

Two handguns, always used together. controls are taken from dual wield: primary fire shoots left gun, alt fire shoots right gun

First gun is a double barreled and a big drum. fires in 2 round burst
Second gun gun break action pistol with delay between shots

And the last on the list
Quake 4 blaster

Primary fire - semi auto pistol. Stats equal to upgraded pistol
Alt fire - charged shot. Cost more ammo and has delay between shots, but its stronger.

Babed variant.
Now its two pistols, dus it cannot be dual wielded.

Primary fire - full auto
Alt fire - Same charged shot, but has slighty lower ammo cost and near instant delay between shots

@coral lava @tulip scarab So, what do we think?

[coral lava]

The first and the second sound the most appealing

Maybe I can do something about the quake 4 blaster

Tho I promise nothing

On 3rd of September morning I am leaving and I have no idea what's gonna happen with my life

Or if the laptop is going to work , it's a bit broken

I have 2 or 3 models to do and they should be easy

I'll try the quake 4 blaster

Again

No promise

[livid bobcat]

the db revolver is wild and so is the belt fed one

[grave iron]

That sucks. I hope you'll be able to settle down and contiue working

[coral lava]

Well

Technically I am just starting work :))

That will be my life going forward

I am basically changing work fields

[grave iron]

work sucks. hope you'll have free time to make the models

[coral lava]

Same

[grave iron]

@livid bobcat @coral lava @tulip scarab
Should we win 100$ in upcoming mod contest, how are we gonna split it up between you 3?

[coral lava]

I'm out

I can't

Sorry

[grave iron]

Sanctions holding your wallet too?

[coral lava]

No

[grave iron]

other reasons then. Sad
Guess all money goes to swoi and frames?

[coral lava]

maybe i'm in

idk if i can drop a random weapon then sure

[grave iron]

I mean if lightning gun wins, you'll get money as part of the team

[livid bobcat]

I really need to set up like a PayPal or something hhhhh

[coral lava]

i have one

[tulip scarab]

same here

[tulip scarab]

worst case if we can't give you your part of the reward in money we could probably get you a game on steam or something of equal value to it

[grave iron]

We'll figure something out. I'll go and tell andrew that we sumbit as a team

[livid bobcat]

it’s no contest lmao

[grave iron]

it is

and its a 100$ to win)

[livid bobcat]

I mean we could all submit our mods we made ourselves but I still think Lightning would win

[grave iron]

You all should definitely submit your mods.

[coral lava]

We make 2 of them and submit both

For impression sakes , if you want to do the artillery/tank rifle or the triple sniper we could pair it with a character model made by @distant cobalt if he wants to

[distant cobalt]

Why'd you need a character model?

You only need arms

[livid bobcat]

It’s so heavy doorguy needs more armor to even hold it

[topaz cedar]

Yes, set up money stuff if you're gonna be a modder and want to get the Patreon Prize Pool

[livid bobcat]

PayPal?

(also what is the patreon prize?)

[grave iron]

100$ in cash or games within that price range. And I think I know what game I want

[livid bobcat]

Ah ok

[grave iron]

@tulip scarab Do you have some time to spare? I want to fix some bugs with the lightning gun and implement qol changes

[tulip scarab]

sure

let's do it

I think I figured out some sway values that get rid of the GTTOD VR experience for me and still look normal for everyone else, so I wanna update the mods I've worked on to use those

also wanna mess with some of the lightning gun's stats

and fix the screen on the undying light

[tulip scarab]

which I've actually already done lmao

just moved the sprite I was using for it into the lightning gun's folder

[tulip scarab]

what bugs do I have to fix again?

I forgot

also what QOL changes do ya wanna add?

[grave iron]

broken heat gauge and incorrect inspect(awe mode) sound for undying light
As for qol stuff: after firing a charged shot there is around 3-4 sec long delay before you can swap fire modes or fire again. I wanted to lower it

also return chaining effect for primary fire. It also could use some damage boost

[tulip scarab]

I was thinking of setting primary fire back to static, do I do that or do I just leave it as fire and do what you said?

[grave iron]

Static would be way too strong, don't you think?

Fire is good, esepically if primary fire jump between enemies

[tulip scarab]

aight

[tulip scarab]

tried buffing the primary fire a little, gonna test it rn

[tulip scarab]

also gonna fix the inspect audio

[tulip scarab]

fixed

gonna buff the lightning chain range a little then send .weapon to you for testing @grave iron

[tulip scarab]

@grave iron

[grave iron]

got it

[tulip scarab]

I may have found why you can't update it

[grave iron]

I'll deal with it tommorow

[tulip scarab]

👍

[rough vine]

lmao I remember this

[livid bobcat]

NEEDS MORE VIGNETTE

[tulip scarab]

AAAAAAA

[livid bobcat]

YESSSS

[livid bobcat]

I am graphic designer

[rough vine]

graphic design is my passion

[tulip scarab]

lmao

[tulip scarab]

here you go @grave iron , less than 1MB

[keen ocean]

credits looking a bit unintelligible

[crimson dust]

smoi, qoow and edman

[topaz cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-the-misery-oh-the-misery-everybody-wants-to-be-my-enemy-gif-25368312

[vast slate]

You need to provide an image/GIF to fry! (Tip: try right-clicking/holding on a message and press Apps -> Select Image, then try again.)

[livid bobcat]

This channel is now a OH THE MISERY and DEEP FRIED STEAM WORKSHOP THUMBNAIL post channel

[ionic bolt]

https://tenor.com/view/everybody-wants-to-be-my-enemy-gif-25993625

[grave iron]

@tulip scarab @coral lava I'm in need of Lightning Gun's blender file for experimentation. Who has it?

[tulip scarab]

I should have them

1 sec

@grave iron

[grave iron]

Nice. Now to spend half a day watching youtube tutorials)

[grave iron]

Alrighty. We need to fix the icon and do minor rebalance thanks to introduction of a new ammo type

As suggested earlier lets slow down primary mode's fire rate and make it fire 2 projectiles instead; and make it use plasma cartiges(he actually went with my suggestion)
As for alt fire. I'd say keep the ammo type, but rise the ammo cost to 50

@tulip scarab

[tulip scarab]

to add to this, I think we should make the alt fire not require switching fire modes (like with the firesoul) once that functionality is available in the mod tools

[grave iron]

I was thinking to suggested that and that is possible right now, but via aldin's plagin

same stuff is planned for STG44's harpoon gun

and I could advice it for Draco's byonet

@silver shard

join us, oh mighty mod maker

[silver shard]

what am I doing?

oh

another harpoon

I need the files before I can begin work on something like that

[tulip scarab]

I think this is it

[grave iron]

I think he needs up to date version with proposed balance changes

[tulip scarab]

ooh

ok

I'm not home rn so I can't work on it immediately

I'll work on those when I get back

[silver shard]

I can wait

I haven't actually programmed the harpoon yet

also, adding custom code that requires base game functions (like this) will cause the unity project to become a hot mess

[grave iron]

no rush, gonna wait as long as it needed

[silver shard]

also I think this will take a while to do

a few days

[grave iron]

Fine by me

we got all the time in the world before game's release update

[silver shard]

what exactly am I making here?

harpoon, or something else

[tulip scarab]

.

[silver shard]

oh, I see

That should be easy

I'll even show you all how to do it

although it would require a dll download

before 1.0 that is

as you can't include custom code in mods at the moment

[grave iron]

I'll just add the link to the mod manager in the workshop post

[silver shard]

oh

it won't be a plugin

no bepinex here

[grave iron]

but it does require mod manager to work, right?

[silver shard]

well

you don't have to install anything via the mod manager

but this would be super easy to install

drag one file into the game folder

[grave iron]

I see. So just include dll with the files and everything should be fine

[silver shard]

you would need to have the user download it separately and put it in the game folder

or you could, just wait till 1.0 and have it be automatic

[grave iron]

That'd be easy. Leave the link to downloading dll and instructions

[silver shard]

yeah

[silver shard]

or ^

[grave iron]

I suspect it would take andrew another year to finish the game

half a year at best

and why wait for officially included function, when its avaible with 2 extra steps

[silver shard]

because of friction

if users are forced to download something else then less people will be willing to download it

[grave iron]

could just make 2 versions of the gun as a temporary solution

or make a mod that changes alt fire to behave as it suppose to on 1.0 launch. Want that stuff early, download the mod. No? Use fire mode switch

we can made a final decision later

[silver shard]

I could do that, but it takes more work to account for 2 different install types

[grave iron]

like I said, we can decide on what to do later

[tulip scarab]

if we made it work using a dll right now would it need an update once 1.0 is out or would it just work even for people who haven't downloaded the dll?

[grave iron]

also Aldin. Can I post these pics from Escape from Shatter or that'd be considered as spoilers?

[silver shard]

no

you can't post them

[grave iron]

got it

[silver shard]

the 1.0 update would override the dll that people downloaded

when the mod gets updated to ship with the custom code package that is

[grave iron]

So we can include dll stuff right now and simply remove it from the workshop page, when the mod tools gets an upgrade

[tulip scarab]

I was thinking the oposite

[silver shard]

I have not finalized the format for the custom code package yet

and andrew gets the final say on how exactly that would work

[tulip scarab]

make the updates (- instant alt fire), upload that, add instant alt fire then upload .weapon + dll elsewhere

then update workshop when 1.0 comes out

[silver shard]

yeah

[tulip scarab]

that way the workshop doesn't get filled by redundant copies of the same mod

[tulip scarab]

actually @silver shard could they be packaged together and downloaded using the mod manager?

[grave iron]

So, we're sticking with posting 2 versions, right?

[silver shard]

no actually

the mod manager does not support adding files to folders outside the game folder

[tulip scarab]

tragic

would make install super straightforward

[silver shard]

yeah

unless the user added a custom path it wouldn't be possible

you could make a plugins that installs an unlisted workshop mod

[tulip scarab]

oh that could work

[silver shard]

but like

we could just wait

this feels like a lot of work for stop gap solution

[tulip scarab]

fair tbh

[silver shard]

we could just

update the balance

wait till 2069 for 1.0 to come out

add the other stuff then

[grave iron]

naybe we could add third fire mode and tie to a reload button by then

[tulip scarab]

?

wdym?

[grave iron]

just some silly thoughts

[silver shard]

I think we should just

uhhh
change the balance

and like
uhhh
wait for 1.0

[grave iron]

Alright, I'm convinced. instant alt fire is on the hold till its achiveable offically

[tulip scarab]

yeah that's probably for the best

[grave iron]

Still doing balance update and icon fix

[silver shard]

yeah

are you gonna reupload or update it

[grave iron]

if I can update it properly this time

[silver shard]

I can show you

[tulip scarab]

its not that hard

[grave iron]

had to reupload it last time, cus I couln't update it for some reason

[silver shard]

also, the mod goes private when you update it, you will have to make it public again

I need to fix that...

[grave iron]

I know. Everything was fine, even the thumbnail which always were a problem for us

[silver shard]

thumbnail bug is fixed

[tulip scarab]

does it?

[silver shard]

it does now

my fault, I need to fix it

I fixed the thing that caused the drg gun to become public on publish

but updating is the same, so it will force updated mods private till you change them back

this is still better then the old system though

because it won't make your mod public before you want it to be

[tulip scarab]

huh

I was wondering cuz I updated the m2r8-k 2 days ago and its still public

[silver shard]

you are on the public branch

the mod fixes I made have not been pushed publicly yet

[tulip scarab]

oooh

i

c

[silver shard]

guh

[grave iron]

New goal: post lightning gun files after we push its update

[tulip scarab]

@grave iron try this out in dev branch, feels pretty good in public branch but still runs out pretty fast so I wanna know what its like with the new ammo type

[grave iron]

Will do once I'm home

[grave iron]

Also how can you not have acsess to dev branch

[distant cobalt]

probably because he's not a supporter

[grave iron]

Niether am I rly

[distant cobalt]

yeah you're a tester

[grave iron]

3 problems:
heat generation is effectively non exist
Fire rate is a bit too slow
Damage is lacking.

Gonna need more raw damage output, slightly higher fire rate and more heat generated

[grave iron]

Done some playtesting in quickplay in witnessed(gone up to threat level 45) and here's my thoughts:

• Eats through ammo like nobody's business; but so does the volleycaster.
• fire rate is fine
• damage definitely lacking on higher threat levels. Lets increase it by 25 across the board

High ammo consumption gave me an idea: what if we balance the gun around being super strong but eating all your ammo for lunch? Cut the heat gauge and use overheat animation for alt fire(and make it deal some damage to the player).

Also draw animation isn't working + icon still need adjustment to the new hud

[silver shard]

Draw animations are bugged for everything

Including the base game arsenal

[grave iron]

huh, more bugs

[grave iron]

@tulip scarab pining just in case

[tulip scarab]

I'll look into those changes

I'll start with the icon since that's easiest

done

just gotta crop

done

[grave iron]

Sexcellent

[tulip scarab]

increasing damage by 25 would almost double it, coupled with an increase in firerate it would end up with insane dps

imo I think we should bump base damage up to 35 and BABE damage up to 70-75 ish

also I'll increase alt fire ammo consumption to 50 since I forgot to do that before

also bumped shield effectiveness up to 120% on the base variant

imo the scaling for the ammo text seems off

I think this is caused by the draw from pool thing

since its probably just getting rid of the number for the rounds in the gun

@grave iron here it is after the changes

[grave iron]

Morning. Will take a look once I'm able to

[grave iron]

Looks good, deffinetly good

Interesting note: you can't switch fire modes if you don't have enough ammo

[tulip scarab]

correct, this has been a thing for a while now

all guns have this

[grave iron]

didn't knew that

I think the gun is ready to be uploaded. Does the thumbnail has correct size?

[tulip scarab]

I don't think it does

also the project on my end lacks the correct steam id

I'll zip up the project and send it over

[grave iron]

hold on, let me get the steam id first so I can upload it straight up

But first I'm going back to irl work

[tulip scarab]

@grave iron I'm gonna be real with you

Idk what problem you're having

[distant cobalt]

his shit cursed fr

[tulip scarab]

literally all I did was put my steam id in the corresponding box

[silver shard]

Why don't you update it then

[tulip scarab]

I can?

[silver shard]

If you have permission to on the workshop page

[tulip scarab]

oooooh

I see

that's cool actually

I don't think I have permission yet tho

[grave iron]

I belive you must be on friends list for that

[grave iron]

@tulip scarab Problem fixed and I blame Andrew for confusion. If you want, I can make you a co creator, but I'm gonna need your friend request in steam
Do you have blender files on hand? I wanted to sent those into modding assets
P.S. Is there any chance I can interest you in making animations for the blaster?

[distant cobalt]

you have the blaster blend file, no?

[grave iron]

Ye

[distant cobalt]

then you could get the file put in the channel

[grave iron]

Probably should move it into more apropriate channel

[tulip scarab]

• On it boss
• On it boss
• Can't rn, got a test on Thursday I gotta study for

[grave iron]

Tests are bad, but important to do. Don't overwork yourself preparing for it