The Mod Cemetery

[shell sequoia]

WHERE THE FUCK IS EVERYONE AT <@&1097882785043185777>

[heavy dove]

IM EATING FOOD AAAAAAAA

[candid wren]

School

[shell sequoia]

Okay good so you can talk in here

That's really all I wanted to know lol

[winged loom]

i am watching yt

[candid wren]

Didn’t know

[heavy dove]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-insane-gif-21702784

[shell sequoia]

Embed fail

Get absolutely dabbed on

[heavy dove]

embed fail

[shell sequoia]

Please

Allow me

https://tenor.com/view/cat-insane-gif-21702784

AHAHAHAHAAAA

[safe harness]

There is nothing to talk about...

no tools

[heavy dove]

https://tenor.com/view/my-descent-into-madness-is-complete-madness-going-insane-insanity-mental-gif-22579930

[proper trail]

[heavy dove]

BRO WTF

[thorny zenith]

I'm learning here

[candid wren]

[shell sequoia]

I'll get tools up with the patch to devbranch so testers can start going at it

Since either way, you're gonna need to be able to upload

Or just pass files around in here

[candid wren]

That feels like something that you wouldn’t want to do in a channel also used for disscusion

[shell sequoia]

Nah not in here as in here here

I mean "in here" as in the forums

Like ideally your own thread

[candid wren]

Oh

[safe harness]

cool

what will be available when you release them

ost and object?

[shell sequoia]

Depends on how much you mother fuckers RUSH ME

[glossy venture]

GO FASTER

YALLAH BITCH

[safe harness]

I will be waiting

impatiently

I want to destroy the perfectly crafted balance

by putting the sniper back into the game

[slender fiber]

e

[safe harness]

e

[valid flame]

porting weapons to Gmod?

[dim hare]

as soon as I get home

Im gonna make so much custom music (if the tools are out yet)

[safe harness]

They are not

[ripe garden]

I’m here

[safe harness]

Yes you are

[dim hare]

Damnit

[safe harness]

You can always rush Andrew to finish it up

(reply for context)

[dim hare]

PLEASE MR. NUTS

I HUNGER FOR THE MODS

[safe harness]

You disabled the reply ping

You got to leave that shit on for maximum effectiveness

[dim hare]

Absolutely not I don't wanna bother him

[safe harness]

I would say no balls...

but that does not work here

[dim hare]

Ha ha

[glossy venture]

Wait you can see when other people reply ping?

[dim hare]

Just say no boobs
That works too

[safe harness]

Yeah

[safe harness]

Reply ping on

[safe harness]

Reply ping off

[glossy venture]

Ohhhhh

Neat

Never noticed the @

[patent smelt]

Hey so ive never modded a game before but id like to dip my toe into the modding community and see whats its like

hope that i can learn and work towards stuff

[ripe garden]

I'd welcome you to the railbow mod

[shell sequoia]

You free today?

[thorny zenith]

same boat as you

[shell sequoia]

@slim zealot check it outttt

You can get your roles in #modding-start

[slim zealot]

[shell sequoia]

Here's the gauss cannon and the babe varient of the AS VAL

[slim zealot]

The beefy

[shell sequoia]

The sniper is in the background

#1097907455800918126

That's temporary, but literally everything is in there

I'm trimming the fat and making #mod-assets

But that'll take some time since I'm really organizing it

[slim zealot]

This is about to be taken all my free time

[shell sequoia]

@slim zealot The final thing of note is that if someone gets me files, I will do the implementation for free when I have time.

For any mod

[slim zealot]

[shell sequoia]

@slim zealot may redo the previous assault rifle @cursive tinsel

@jolly leaf poggers

Want help with implementing when the tools are out?

[jolly leaf]

I should be good, but sure

[shell sequoia]

What's your idea for the upgrades and special versions?

[jolly leaf]

no clue

might have a peeled banana as babe'd version

or have the stock banana green and it becomes yellow when upgraded

[shell sequoia]

LOLOLOL

[jolly leaf]

or put a laser pointer on the banana or smth

[jolly leaf]

tactical banana

[vestal wasp]

I got a really potentially dumb idea

Door guys helmet weapon, all it does is he can throw it.
One attack before needing to reload and max ammo at a time is the same as the grenade launcher. It doesn’t explode or anything. He just throws it and it has similar gravity to the grenade launchers grenades. And right click door guy just puts it back on and it gives a bit of armor at the cost of all the ammo for it you have. So you’d have to go get more.

[heavy dove]

no idea is too dumb when it comes to modding

[vestal wasp]

I don’t know how the armor thing would work. It would probably be just overcharge at full health

My second idea was basically the hot hand from tf2 but it’s the cold hand. Because of the metal armor.
Normal fire door guy does a slap and theirs a small cooldown(like 1/2 second) after four of them. The second variation is a powerful Pow where doorguy just. Puts his hand out in a finger gun and slightly tilts it up as if firing a bullet. It’s hitscan.
Door guys pow does make his hand hurt though so he has a 12 second cooldown

Reload animation is just cracking knuckles btw

[shell sequoia]

I can't wait to release mod tools, have people go "wait, this is it?" and then I can immediately follow that up with "Here's V2 with a billion more tools" because that's exactly what's gonna happen

[compact scaffold]

Soon™️?

[shell sequoia]

Yes

Right now I am making some levels tho

I'll get back on mods once some of these are done

[compact scaffold]

Fuck yeah

These levels have names?

Since we have Cinder City

[shell sequoia]

Since right now I have to remake a few systems' structures to get things working easily and smoothly

[shell sequoia]

The one I am currently on is being called "Glass Highway"

[compact scaffold]

im excited to see what else you have up your sleeve

[compact scaffold]

Fuck yeah

[shell sequoia]

But I am just doing blockouts right now

Since people seem to like those

[compact scaffold]

Blockouts are useful af

[shell sequoia]

I also have to make some new mechanics

[compact scaffold]

Oh?

[shell sequoia]

Like the swing and balance poles

[compact scaffold]

BALANCE POLES

[shell sequoia]

I'm about to start on both of those

I'm gonna use them much more deliberately this time around

[compact scaffold]

Fuck yes

[shell sequoia]

They're gonna be pretty integral to level flow

[compact scaffold]

in all of A2?

of just some levels

[shell sequoia]

Yeah, in all of A2. Basically their additions and changes to enemy difficulty is what's gonna set the gameplay loop apart from A1.

That, and then of course the tonal shift too

With the music and what-not

[compact scaffold]

Dude im so excited

[shell sequoia]

I am redoing a lot of my OST system rn tho

[compact scaffold]

How so? to support mods?

[shell sequoia]

I need to make it so that songs are based on their area rather than their type

That way I can differentiate between Act 1, Act 2, Act 3, and other areas.

So I'm basically just gonna do it in order of how you can approach the area.

So first is gonna be the Main Menu, then it'll be Prologue, then it'll be Harbor Deep, then Reflection, then Dungeons, then Act 1 Radio, then Blade Sentinel, then Act 2 Radio, then Lich Sentinel, then The Summit, then The World Sentinel, then Credits.

[compact scaffold]

Sick

[sturdy thicket]

I think I have an idea for a weapon mod I wanna do

[shell sequoia]

Go on

[gritty willow]

[glossy venture]

@shell sequoia is there a default image to show up in shops and chests for the weapons or are we required to make one?

[manic fossil]

New announcement is literally just targeted at me isn’t it

[shell sequoia]

There will be a default one and you can make one

[glossy venture]

Aight perfect

[manic fossil]

lol

[drifting mica]

@shell sequoia pistol assets please

[manic fossil]

Andrew maybe drop all the models

With and without anims

I bet most need with anims but I need without for mine

Demanding

[shell sequoia]

Just rip the models from the animations

[manic fossil]

True but like I am horribly inexperienced with blender

Been a millennia since I touched it

[shell sequoia]

Then this is the perfect place to learn

We can teach you

[manic fossil]

That would be great actually

Because I need to re-rig the ENTIRE doorguy model for number 4 on my to do list

One thing that I fuck with though is the posting the hands for the gun animations

Just because too many hours in SFM babyyyyy

[vestal wasp]

OKAY SO THE BULLET MODEL GAVE ME A IDea and I’m gonna write it here now before I forget.
One of those guns where you use a hammer to launch the bullet. I don’t know if they are real or not or just in memes but that’s it. And your alt is just switching to a different bullet type (pellets like a shotgun)

[sturdy thicket]

is the outline on gun and such in engeine or model

[safe harness]

does disabling world outline get rid of it?

I don't know exactly what you are talking about

but if disabling world outline removes it, it is a in engine

[glossy venture]

It's a post processing effect

So in engine

[sturdy thicket]

ight

[safe harness]

yeah, I know world outline is, but I did no know exactly what outline they were talking about so I just said that

[glossy venture]

It's the same effect

[drifting mica]

Unity effect

Very unity moment

[glossy venture]

You have no idea how much of a Unity Moment that effect is

[manic fossil]

[drifting mica]

I’ve worked with Unity so I do

[glossy venture]

I've spent 3 months straight fucking with that effect to try to get a single thing to work to no avail because of the awful way unity handles camera stacking

[drifting mica]

I’ve also made game cheats before that use a similar glow outline method

For context I used to make cheats for gmod for developing anti cheats

Since I was the lead developer on a few servers

[patent smelt]

yes just need to finish some school work

i will be modding from 4-6 pst on weekdays if i am not pressured with a ton of schoolwork

I am still only learning c# but hope to help in any way possible!

[shell sequoia]

Guys

I'm doing it

I'm implementing weapon mod support

[heavy dove]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/602067256079286283/1097936683464392764/image0.gif

amazing news

[compact scaffold]

NOW???

[drifting mica]

Finally now I can work on my mods

[compact scaffold]

RAHHHHHHHHHH

LETS GO

[vestal wasp]

https://tenor.com/view/gigachad-chad-gif-20773266

[shell sequoia]

Almost done

With V1

[compact scaffold]

I swear if you finish these tools before I get home

I will be forced to kill you

[slim zealot]

[jolly leaf]

yyiippeeeeeee

can't wait to speedrun implementing the banana

[jolly leaf]

this but if i fall asleep
it's midnight rn but i fear that if i sleep too soon i will miss out on the tools by 6 hours

[shell sequoia]

#1098615818453012600

[vestal wasp]

Volley casterrrr

[jolly leaf]

i presume it goes pew

[manic fossil]

Actually I just said this in https://discord.com/channels/318052335362244608/1097926188795695145 but it might be faster for responses if I put it here
Two people, state the next two weapons I do for GTTOD VR, preferably a primary and sidearm

[jolly leaf]

the uzi?

[sturdy thicket]

Shotgun

Revolver

[manic fossil]

Silenced SMG And Shotgun I’ll take those as

With Uzi and Shotgun

[jolly leaf]

lesgooo

might make a few subatomic tweaks to the banana gun

[manic fossil]

Banaba

[jolly leaf]

bananopticon

[manic fossil]

Anyway GTTOD VR the revolver is gonna be a challenge

Because of the way it’s designed

[jolly leaf]

is there even a revolver in contractors to go off?

[manic fossil]

Not one that works like the GTTOD one

[jolly leaf]

eek

[manic fossil]

Which unless I’m insane is break action?

[jolly leaf]

yeah

[manic fossil]

Yeah

I’m gonna have to probably figure out how to make a break action weapon

[jolly leaf]

i don't suppose there's a DB either?

[manic fossil]

Nope

[jolly leaf]

eek 2

[manic fossil]

I’ll probably ask the TF2 VR dev for help

[jolly leaf]

there we go, polished the inspect a bit more

slightly more fluid this time

[manic fossil]

Nice

[jolly leaf]

fuck i forgot about sound

[ripe garden]

Isn’t that already pretty much implemented

[shell sequoia]

GOT'ER GOIN' AYAYAYAYAYAYA

[compact scaffold]

No way

fr????

[carmine siren]

OMEGA POG

[jolly leaf]

i impatiently await implementing the banana

im gonna go pretend to sleep for 6 hours someone spam ping me when (or if) the tools come out

[drifting mica]

@jolly leaf

@jolly leaf

[jolly leaf]

they aren out yet silly

[drifting mica]

I know I just felt like spam pinging you

[jolly leaf]

fair enoug

[drifting mica]

https://tenor.com/view/bingus-gif-18888188

[jolly leaf]

bingus cartel video?

[drifting mica]

I hope not

[jolly leaf]

long live bingus

[drifting mica]

Floppa > Bingus though

[jolly leaf]

garunteed

[dim hare]

They're equals

[sand gorge]

dumb meme

[drifting mica]

That’s not a meme, that’s a diagram

[sand gorge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/463439332926029835/1055267131199082546/caption-4.gif

[dim hare]

I may be stupid but are the music tools out yet

[compact scaffold]

no

[dim hare]

[ripe garden]

https://tenor.com/view/ben-shapiro-walking-gif-21499133

Brother

[drifting mica]

Whoever made this model, I give you a chef's kiss

https://tenor.com/view/chefs-kiss-french-chef-perfect-dish-excellent-food-perfection-gif-20341505

[shell sequoia]

GUESS WHAT FELLAS

[compact scaffold]

NO FUCKING WAY

[shell sequoia]

Not only are the mod tools coming out, but so too is a 40 minute tutorial explaining how they work

Well

Really it's specifically for creating a basic weapon

[compact scaffold]

gimmi

tools pls

[compact scaffold]

@dim hare

[drifting mica]

Epic

Can’t wait

[compact scaffold]

Im on the edge of my seat

[drifting mica]

I’m on the edge of my hydrogen bomb

[compact scaffold]

also @shell sequoia Does that mean testers are getting access to the tools first?? Like are we gonna get the version of gttod that has support for mods

or is that gonna be like an open beta

[drifting mica]

Idk but if it’s a testers thing he should give me testers role for sure

[dim hare]

YES YES YES YES YES

YES PLEASE
PLEASE IVE WAITED SO LONG

[dim hare]

IS THE . MUSIC ONES COMING TOO

[drifting mica]

Music tutorial is already out

[dim hare]

NO
THE TOOLS

[drifting mica]

I mean that was like the first one finished

So it’s kind of a given

[dim hare]

Well IDK

I need them
I have this song and everything

[slim zealot]

[ripe garden]

https://tenor.com/view/epic-win-gif-18390652

[indigo barn]

@shell sequoia What happens if the errors are set above 0? It got cut off in the video

[jolly leaf]

my best guess is the animations get significantly crustier

im probably wrong but iirc unity has some sorta compression that it uses to make your animations smaller, but it's pretty useless

[shell sequoia]

Jesus Christ the smart pistol is actually fire

GOD THE SMART PISTOL FUCKS

[compact scaffold]

Always did

[brazen quest]

oh my god this halo shotgun

was it actually in the game at some point

[shell sequoia]

Bro that's nothing

The fucking binary is in here

[brazen quest]

GRAAH

I remember these

Theyre lost to time

[calm lynx]

Ha

[shell sequoia]

This old thing from Hatsu

[calm lynx]

[shell sequoia]

@calm lynx What do I need to say for you to supply this mod community with a model pack of your favorite weapons?

Same for you @cursive tinsel and @stiff briar lol

[calm lynx]

Sounds like a swag idea

[drifting mica]

If I create a weapon model are there people willing to take care of the animations and rigging

[shell sequoia]

@slim zealot has hinted at interest

[calm lynx]

This was never on the workshop but man, crazy

[cursive tinsel]

practically a lot of the ravenfield stuff i've done could probably be given a paintover and then ported

[shell sequoia]

I was thinking the other day of making an "Andrew's Collection Of Cool Shit" on the Steam workshop.

[shell sequoia]

ANIMATIONS???

[drifting mica]

Well I’ll be blue printing soon then

[brazen quest]

mouth starts foaming

[calm lynx]

It was animated by Apsel and it was put into GTTOD, but never placed on the workshop

[compact scaffold]

My head has turned into a train whistle

[shell sequoia]

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@stone gorge AOAHAHSDOASHASO

HOOOOAHOOAHHOOO

@stone gorge PLEASE HONEY

PLEASE

[calm lynx]

https://imgur.com/jq5s2U8

[shell sequoia]

OH MY FUCKING

GOD

OH MY FUCKING GOD

I NEED IT

PLEASE

[compact scaffold]

THATS SO FUCKING SICK

[shell sequoia]

PLEASE

PLEASE

PLEASE @stone gorge PLEASE

[sturdy thicket]

reminds me of the loki

[stiff briar]

gamimg

[shell sequoia]

Hi Erazer

[compact scaffold]

Erazer!

[stiff briar]

i still have a bunch of guns i made for fun a while back ig uess

[shell sequoia]

I'M ON THE FUCKING EDGE

[compact scaffold]

Do it pussy

you wont

[shell sequoia]

HOLY SHIT I AM FUCKING ACTUALLY GOING TO SCREAM

[barren flume]

do it andrew

do it

[shell sequoia]

I'll add the remaining animations to it

[barren flume]

whats glenn gonna do? sue you?

[stiff briar]

the funny

[brazen quest]

your animated pfp very much fits you

[brazen quest]

https://tenor.com/view/fat-guy-falling-off-chair-fast-chair-pissed-off-fast-nole-fast-falling-fast-gif-25168440

[calm lynx]

And uh ahem

This thing

It's called the Drone Gun

[brazen quest]

what is this contraption

the thingmabob

[cursive tinsel]

the weapon backlog erazer and i have could probably be put in with at least some percentage of recoloring

[stiff briar]

deep rock galactic pickaxe

[brazen quest]

holy SHIT

oh my god

[barren flume]

literally gonna port every titanfall gun into gttod fr

[brazen quest]

new melee leaked

[compact scaffold]

Need

[brazen quest]

the bottom handles only make me think of Cordite form blops4

[compact scaffold]

I now need to figure out how to animate

[brazen quest]

okay nvm

[compact scaffold]

A pickaxe melee weapon would be sickkk

[brazen quest]

close tho

[brazen quest]

stone n rock

[stiff briar]

also gung

[barren flume]

tbf animating a pickaxe wouldnt be hard

line up fingers

swing up and then down

[brazen quest]

use science club animations on it

[compact scaffold]

perfect for someone who has never animated before

Might be a fun lil project

[jolly leaf]

also probably good way to learn getting arcs right

[compact scaffold]

Arcs?

[jolly leaf]

no straight lines permitted

gotta move in curves

[compact scaffold]

Ahhhh

Makes sense

Would I just animate straight in Blender?

[jolly leaf]

yeah

[drifting mica]

Yup

[barren flume]

ig you could just take reference from the payday 1-handed melee weapon swing animation

since its p simple

[cursive tinsel]

animating straight in blender worked for ravenfield and it'll probably work for orange door

[compact scaffold]

Fuck

I gotta try this now

[jolly leaf]

but if you plan on using the animations for something always use the NLA editor or dope sheet action editor

[cursive tinsel]

i think the main thing on my mind is expectations of animation quality

[compact scaffold]

I have the rig

I have all the tools I need

Just need to practice

[stiff briar]

theres also this thing

probably a rocket launcher

[brazen quest]

looks like from eternal

[drifting mica]

Definitely a pistol

[slim zealot]

Got them together for later

[jolly leaf]

that's a knife silly

[brazen quest]

the oldie

[drifting mica]

Not like it has a shoulder rest and back shock export

[jolly leaf]

i like the old AR

[slim zealot]

I figure it will make the perfect mod

[drifting mica]

Forward-porting older objects and weapons will probably be the main focus of modding at the start

[calm lynx]

Damn

Swag guns

[barren flume]

yo @stiff briar can you put all of these files in one single message or zip so it can be pinned?

figured might as well

[jolly leaf]

i've entered a state of paranoia cos the mod tools aren't out yet but they're supposedly gonna be out soon and i fear that they come out while i'm asleep and i miss out on the initial banana speedrun

[stiff briar]

aye

though i just actually red and noticed that andrew already posted a bunch of them

going through and seeing which ones I can put together

[cursive tinsel]

i think it's safe to say we're still at least a week or more away from any mod tool release

[jolly leaf]

450mg potassium chloride

[barren flume]

:)

just so its in a more condensed and easy to grab space

[cursive tinsel]

i'd probably be more comfortable with dumping my old colonial marine stuff since that'd make for an easy enough aliens pack but those were never really designed for the neon line stuff in orange door

which isn't to say that they can't be used

i just don't know how a non-neon gun would look

or how hard it'd be to bring them up to the orange door spec

the neon is really the biggest factor

[manic fossil]

Colours

[cursive tinsel]

like it's not like this can't go into the game as it is, but it wouldn't look right without some neon

[manic fossil]

I mean

[manic fossil]

It wouldn’t be hard to neon the orange

[cursive tinsel]

the problem is probably that i'm worrying about it when really it will be the problem of whoever picks up the model

[manic fossil]

This is what the models look like for me before I manually make the glow work in UE4

[cursive tinsel]

i'm thinking about it like i'm the one who has to go in and recolor it then animate it and throw the sounds in and implement it when andrew's just asking for a starter asset pack

[jade swallow]

I have to unpack zip file of the unity project and open the folder I got from it as the project in unity hub right ?

[compact scaffold]

What unity project

[shell sequoia]

Save

[jade swallow]

modding tools

[shell sequoia]

Save

[slow crane]

I think you’re jumping the gun a bit, the tools aren’t live yet

[compact scaffold]

Its not a thing yet

[shell sequoia]

Save

[compact scaffold]

I pinned it

[shell sequoia]

Save

[shell sequoia]

SAVE SAVE SAVE

[cursive tinsel]

neoning the guns probably isn't as big a deal as i'm thinking it'd be

[jade swallow]

so now I am just left to do "prepwork" like models animation and sfx ?

[cursive tinsel]

the older alien isolation shotgun doesn't look as doorified to me but it could work with a few minutes extra effort

[compact scaffold]

Yeah

Idk when Andrew is gonna publish the tools

but they arent live yet

[jade swallow]

okay, I still have a shitload amount of stuff to learn and do

[cursive tinsel]

so what i'll probably do is i'm going to pull my ancient ravenfield colonial marine stuff together even though most of it probably sucks

and maybe someone will make something out of that

they'll have to reassign all the materials, scrub out the old animations, etcetera

these are old guns modeled and animated and saved last in blender 2.79

their materials are all vaguely broken

but they tend to use one of two color atlases

the model ages range from 2018 to 2019 i think, some from 2020

if someone thinks they'll get a kick out of using them then have at it but recoloring them and all will be on you

there's pulse rifles, smartguns, a few rocket launchers, a bolter, some submachineguns, etcetera

some emphasis to be placed on this for example, a recreation of the starter handgun out of ut99

this chunky-ass thing is probably the most interesting handgun to me that's in that selection

it's basically a bolter or at least a handgun firing rifle rounds

there's also a revolver, some ancient bad vp70, the vp78 pistol out of avp2010, the m4a4 from avp2 which is basically an hk mk23, and some weird laugo alien mutation

the ut99 enforcer may be the oldest model there aside from the bolter

they came about at similar times, i think

just i later cleaned up the enforcer some for ravenfield

and then the bolter for minti when he expressed some kind of interest in it ages ago

[valid flame]

Would it be possible to make a weapon that is all of the versions of the pistol at once

[cursive tinsel]

depends on what that is exactly supposed to mean

if there's no limit to the number of firemodes,

then in theory you could probably swap between models using animations that correspond to the given firemode

this would probably be a pain in the ass to set up but in theory you could then have every single pistol in one if there's no limit to the number of alternate weapon firemodes

at least i'd assume

this is based on how i'd do it for ravenfield which does not necessarily mean how it'd work in orange door

[calm lynx]

I'd assume they mean every single GTTOD pistol from every version merged into one

[cursive tinsel]

in that case it's less 'would it be possible' because modeling a gun is definitely possible

it becomes more a matter of 'will someone actually bother trying to model a fusion of every pistol in one'

[jade swallow]

when modeling it is better to create an empty object and place all the parts as child objects in it

right ?

[shell sequoia]

Yes, but it'd suck

[valid flame]

like doorguy gets 3 extra arms, each holding a different version of the pistol

[calm lynx]

How could anyone forget this gun

[carmine siren]

this is just a treasure trove of good shit

[sturdy thicket]

ight i got is a little more developed

ssg

[shell sequoia]

HA

Yeah you could actually do that

I'd run implementation for that no question

[ripe garden]

Just re-add alt fire

Of db

[sturdy thicket]

nah

[sturdy thicket]

also sick, thank you i am confident in my inability to manage code

i may try either way tho

gotta do other animations first tho

[ripe garden]

There’s literally nothing code intensive about the mod process

Lil tedious but it’s mostly just dragging and dropping

And clicking

[sturdy thicket]

ahh, havent watched the mod implement video yet

[ripe garden]

I think you could just do it with a mouse

If not for the need to rename some stuff

[cursive tinsel]

if it ends up like ravenfield which seems to be how it's going

the most intensive thing will probably be modeling and animating

and doing those isn't too difficult, it's just that doing them well takes practice/experience

[carmine siren]

the mongus bullet 2: electrical trouble

[calm lynx]

gugn

[calm lynx]

Concussion Gun

[carmine siren]

concussion gun? more like...

https://tenor.com/view/kitchen-gun-haha-meme-twinkieman-gif-10329429

[barren flume]

BANG BANG BANG!!

wheres kitchen gun in gttod fr

[carmine siren]

and it sparkles like new!!!

[barren flume]

literally just the normal pistol with erick's sfx over it

[uneven badge]

is it possible to add movement mechanics with the devkit

[barren flume]

shrug

[carmine siren]

that's a good question

[barren flume]

thats for andrew to answer

[uneven badge]

i just want to add a ground slam

[barren flume]

science club:

[glossy venture]

98% sure it's not possible

But yeah that's gonna be on the science club

[uneven badge]

Ill find a way

[carmine siren]

y'know I was thinking about maybe adding in survival mechanics into the game just cuz so...

[glossy venture]

You'd have to make a bepinex mod if you want to do it yourself

[uneven badge]

whats a bepinex mod

[barren flume]

a unity code injector

[glossy venture]

https://github.com/BepInEx/BepInEx

[uneven badge]

i can make it work

[glossy venture]

What 99% of unity game mods are made with

Again it's literally being added with the science club

[uneven badge]

what is the science club

[glossy venture]

Melee weapon that has a ground slam built in

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/319872546654781440/997974741237370880/ScienceClub.gif

https://gfycat.com/favorablewhoppinggermanshorthairedpointer

[drifting mica]

Oxide framework is cool 👉👈

[glossy venture]

What's that used in?

This is the first I'm hearing of it

[drifting mica]

https://github.com/OxideMod

[glossy venture]

Neat

[gritty willow]

the arbalest

[empty crane]

wait

did you already do the SP?

[glossy venture]

Yeah but it was removed

The code is still there though

[jade swallow]

Did Krev have any "restrictions" when making designs for guns, like we never saw red elements on common guns , would it be too out of place for a modded weapon to have them? (I try to keep it looking as gttod as possible)

[shell sequoia]

@cursive tinsel

[cursive tinsel]

the rules i abided by color wise were that guns were generally on three materials

though i had four or five actually

color one was black

color two was basically white

color three is the neon

color four was less a color and more how i marked an ammo counter thing

and then color 5 was sometimes i'd use a dark red for something specific like a charging handle, but that wasn't often

i think that modded weapons shouldn't feel confined to following that strictly, but the reason that we did the three main tones was i think more or less visibility

there's not a lot of room so to speak for more shades between the black and white, or at least there wasn't before

it's generally worked out better to design something with the expectation that your blacks will look black and metallic ingame and your whites will look brighter and flatter

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/493007070434689024/1049204589859176510/image.png https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/493007070434689024/1049204664501026827/image.png https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/493007070434689024/1049204622784471110/image.png https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/493007070434689024/1049123692258525204/image.png

in certain places

i color things the way i do because i think they contrast better as a result
black holes in a 'white' or grey heatshield for example stick out probably pretty well

[jade swallow]

that is helpful, but I was more asking about the difference between color variety for babes and ordinary guns.

Like even if weapon from the start was centered around fire status effect, you would use red color only for the babe?

[cursive tinsel]

the consistent thing with buildabangs is that they use gold and that their glow goes purple

beyond that red or black is really a matter of preference

initially i was going for gold and red

but the red didn't always look good

[jade swallow]

oh ok

[cursive tinsel]

which is why some buildabangs are gold and black instead of gold and red

and i'd use both sometimes with red or black corresponding to something like a grip/handle

[jade swallow]

thanks)

[cursive tinsel]

on the silenced smg for example i made the wrap around the foregrip red and the little bit at the bottom of the mag red to break up the black and gold

it's not super important though

when it comes to making a weapon suit a given status effect that's something you'd have to model in or do with particles

i don't think i had any particular elemental effects in mind for most of the buildabangs i made

but erazer when making the pistol ended up making it kind of a dragon with scales, which would probably suit fire of course

how much that comes through is debatable though

[jade swallow]

yeah, but I just hate mods that look too out of place, and If I actually finish mine and don't ditch it I dont want it to be like that.

[calm lynx]

@shell sequoia How are you

[shell sequoia]

When you get to tools, navigate to materials and you will see them there.

You have "Weapon Dark" "Weapon Light" "Weapon Gold" Weapon Red, Blue, Green" and a few others.

You don't have to use these, but if you want a GTTOD-esc looking weapon...use them...

[shell sequoia]

Tired.

[safe harness]

Same

[calm lynx]

Damn

[safe harness]

I am so sleep deprived

[calm lynx]

spobob

[safe harness]

Been going to bed at 11 and waking up at 5:15 central time (2 hours ahead)

My sleep is schedule is more nonexistent that normal

[shell sequoia]

SAME kinda

[safe harness]

Yeah but your not jet lagged

[shell sequoia]

Except last night it was 8:00 to 10:00 and then 10:30 to 5:15

So I actually slept a TON

No idea why I'm tired

[brazen quest]

Too much sleep exists

[calm lynx]

I used to sleep from 4am to 4pm

[shell sequoia]

8 hours and 45 minutes

[safe harness]

Give it a little bit

[shell sequoia]

The perfect amount of sleep

[brazen quest]

8 hours is too much don't trust the media

[safe harness]

Lies

[compact scaffold]

Go have breakfast

[brazen quest]

I feel so much better with 6 no joke

[shell sequoia]

Same

I usually get six or less

[compact scaffold]

Same

[shell sequoia]

Then I shower and get back to work

[compact scaffold]

thats because I force myself to get up early

[shell sequoia]

I've noticed, strangely

Why?

[compact scaffold]

I like feeling like I have more of the day ahead of me

if I wake up at like 9am or something I feel like ive wasted my morning

which isnt true

but its how ive always been

[calm lynx]

There was a time I thought my phone was my Alexa, I got woken up by the sound, told my Alexa to stop, it didn't stop so I got up and it was my phone ringing

[empty crane]

okay just does the SP exist as a mod yet or not? is it still worth me trying to mod it in? (doesn't know what he's doing)

[calm lynx]

What?

[jolly leaf]

im gonna guess smart pistol

[calm lynx]

Oh, in that case, nothing exists as a mod yet

Anyway, old arms

[jolly leaf]

(except for the volley caster and usp mogus)

[calm lynx]

Mods that everyone can use

[jolly leaf]

oohh

mb

[calm lynx]

@shell sequoia Will the ability to make custom ammo counters be a thing?

[safe harness]

I wonder how long it will be till someone adds sex

[calm lynx]

Someone will definitely with object mods

[sand gorge]

is anyone making that

BECAUSE IF NOBODY IS I FUCKIN WILL

[shell sequoia]

Honestly, I probably could have released these tools yesterday

But I'm nervous, admittedly

What if I have to change it all again?

I KNOW I WON'T BUT WHAT IF

[calm lynx]

Send it out whenever you're ready ❤️

[ripe garden]

Do it now and have everyone flame you for it being shit
Actual seriousness though do it when you feel the tools are in working order

[calm lynx]

What he said

Imagine a custom gun that turns enemies into objects like walls or grass

[ripe garden]

Imagine doing this airborne as you turn the flying enemy into a wall you can run on

Crazzzzyyyyyy

[calm lynx]

@shell sequoia Could I actually replace the arms like this?

[ripe garden]

From what I’ve seen in the tutorial maybe

[calm lynx]

?

[ripe garden]

I’m no expert and I have no idea what I’m talking about

But

When he loaded up the match 10 stuff the view model is part of the weapon I think

Like

Idk how to say it

But gttod has different view models for different guns (duh)

So you could totally change it out

I think that’s what he did for the reflection

Although I’m not sure

I’m very much a beginner

[calm lynx]

@ripe garden ❤️

[ripe garden]

Thank

[indigo barn]

Is there a maximum fov? What maximum do you folks usually account for when animating?

[calm lynx]

I don't think it matters

[drifting mica]

90

For the viewmodel though it’s 60

[shell sequoia]

Possible

[indigo barn]

60? The pistol & smart pistol had the camera set to 90, so I've been treating that as standard

[shell sequoia]

Also possible, yes

[shell sequoia]

I set mine to 78 in Blender

[indigo barn]

Oof, well I suppose it wouldn't be too difficult to scoot everything forward a bit

[calm lynx]

What if I wanted to make a mod with a different set of arms that replaces the arms for every gun, would I have to replace the arms on every single gun rig to achieve it?

[drifting mica]

Actual in game viewmodel FOV through unity is set at 60

[indigo barn]

Ah, didn't notice that viewmodel FOV was independent from camera FOV

[shell sequoia]

There are no replacements for weapons, only additions.

[ripe garden]

That’s what I thought

[calm lynx]

Mkay thank you (:

[jade swallow]

Im stupid, where is my "Scene_collectiion" tab so I can select and inspect pistol and arm objects ?

https://tenor.com/view/loading-wtf-ruocgiff-gif-25631449

[indigo barn]

If you don't have the Outliner, just click and drag the corner to create a new panel and set it to the Outliner using the dropdown in the top left.

[jade swallow]

thanks

why I am not surprised

[calm lynx]

PISS

[jade swallow]

btw, if we are talking about piss

Did Andrew ditch cozy mode and we have to mod it in by ourselves, or it just was delayed because of low priority?

[calm lynx]

I hope it wasn't ditched ):

I wanna use that

[ripe garden]

Likely the later

[calm lynx]

This was also one that was animated, but was never put into GTTOD

[bronze bluff]

wth is this

[bronze bluff]

holy cow the ui looks like neon white or smth which update is it

[bronze bluff]

hello

is the unity free?

it told me to install unity hub

oh its finally here

time to follow the tutorial

[jolly leaf]

hate to be the guy but the mod tools aren't out yet

the github repo is just a readme.md and if you download it it'll be really small and won't open in the unity editor

[trim jasper]

anyone interested in helping me with this (mod tools not out and i can't find time to learn modding these next two or three months)?

[bronze bluff]

oh okay well what should i do

i wanna make a music mod

i dunno how to start

2d? 3d?

which one?

hmm lets say 2d

can someone help me? how can i get the mod tools?

how can i even make it into a mod?

[calm lynx]

Bro

Did you read what he said? Lmao

[bronze bluff]

i know but like isnt there a non-mod tool way to do that?

[calm lynx]

What is a non-mod tool

[bronze bluff]

non-modtool way

the way that you dont need a modtool for

[trim jasper]

how do you make a table without tools ?

[bronze bluff]

oh yeah that's fair

i get it now

[barren flume]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QFbn5KMTDA

make sure to play it at like

0.5 speed

to gather it

[bronze bluff]

yeah but like there is a script to make the mod

made by nuts

[compact scaffold]

Yeah its not out yet

Youll have to download unity to use them when they go live

[bronze bluff]

i have unity

time to wait

[compact scaffold]

Youll have to have a certain version

So make sure you have that then

[bronze bluff]

yeah i got the version lol

2019426

[compact scaffold]

Alright then its time to wait

[bronze bluff]

okay

[jolly leaf]

ykno what would be really funny

a double barrel alof's device

[trim jasper]

Quake champions has one

[calm lynx]

Destiny 2 Glaive

[vestal wasp]

Commandos guns from risk of rain 2

[barren flume]

isnt that just dual wield pistols

[vestal wasp]

Yup but with a charge shot that does damage probably

Depends on load out

[patent smelt]

So do we just like wait for mod tools

[compact scaffold]

yes

[patent smelt]

Will it take as long as halo 3 mod tools?

[compact scaffold]

when its ready

[patent smelt]

ok

[peak badge]

gttod smooth shaded arm is cursed

[sturdy thicket]

Could be worse

[jolly leaf]

does gttod have fire delay support?

like can i set up an animation with a second of chargeup before actually firing?

[brazen quest]

there was a charge rifle in the old versions

so i think you can do that

[jolly leaf]

i think the bhg has a chargeup, right?

[brazen quest]

yeah that too

[jolly leaf]

aight ill just steal the way the bhg does it

[brazen quest]

[calm lynx]

I'm probably gonna have to do that too

[jade swallow]

Idk how but I made my model in a blender look like half-transparent doo doo garbage, how do I fix this?

[jade swallow]

thanks

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cats-pet-cat-cat-pet-cute-cat-gif-24810247

[calm lynx]

(:

[trim jasper]

you gaslit me into thinking this was a ": ("

[calm lynx]

I cannot stop putting faces that way

It just feels natural

[safe harness]

I use both interchangeably

[jade swallow]

By the way, Is it okay for me to ask dumb blender questions in this chat that are kind of trivial but complex too for me to formulate in a short Google request? (I have terminal stupidity)

[barren flume]

eh sure go ahead

[glossy venture]

Ye

This is basically just the general chat for modding

[jade swallow]

oke

So I have this part of sort of "break action" gun where it folds, I made a stupid thing and just extended one part of the mesh into another one, can I somehow merge two parts of this mesh into one, so there won't be any intersections?

[jade swallow]

looks like Bionicle

[peak badge]

Tru

[drifting mica]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpRg-xmwkVM
I suggest watching this. The video is 18 minutes but it's worth your time and can teach you a lot

[peak badge]

Either booleans or u can use bridge face, by selecting the edge of the two faces and right clicking there should be an option to bridge to faces together connecting them

After u can extrude out the other end

Or if u click two opposite faces of a mesh and bridge face it creates a hole

Although I may be reading ur question wrong, I can help in 3 hours after school is done for me

[jade swallow]

no need, that pretty much covers it. Also, I came up with a shittier solution that will do, most likely I will scrap this model anyway and make a new one.

This is more or less just me goofing around and learning by try and error because I have a concentration span too short to search and watch tutorials

[peak badge]

Alr sounds good, there's always many ways to go about it

[jade swallow]

Can I extrude two faces into two opposite directions at the same time, so I get it in symmetric form? (like with scale tool or smth)

[neon magnet]

You can hit E to extrude, then right click to cancel transformations, this will give you two extruded faces overlapping the originals. After that you can hit S to scale then X to scale along the X axis.

[drifting mica]

Use the mirror modifier and you only have to extrude one side

[jade swallow]

yeah I thought about that, but I already made some progress, and also I wanted to make some asymmetrical changes in the and idk If I can turn off the mirror without losing the other half entirely, and if I can, how to do so

https://tenor.com/view/cat-ice-cream-cat-gif-24824906

[drifting mica]

I mean you'd really only want to make the asym and detailing after finishing the base of the model that uses the mirror modifier

Otherwise things are gonna get all fucky and confusing

[jade swallow]

Yeah, but I remembered using a mirror modifier when 5 years ago or smth, and as far as I remembered each time I tried to disable a mirror modifier, mirrored half of the model just disappeared.

So I just avoided that

[glossy venture]

Isn't that the intended behavior?

[cursive tinsel]

that sounds like the intended behavior to me

my suggestion would be to do anything you can do symmetrically first, then to apply the mirror modifier and to do anything that you couldn't do symmetrically

it sounds like you wanted to apply the modifier but instead you removed it

[peak badge]

Also doing alt e then clicking extrude off normals extrudes both faces in their own direction

Super useful tool

[jolly leaf]

when mod tools come out, will there be support for melee weapons?

[jade swallow]

I mean, I do need to remove to make asymmetric details, no ?

[jolly leaf]

no, just apply

apply makes the mirrored geo real and removes the modifier automatically, meaning you can modify one side without modifying the other

[cursive tinsel]

yes

it sounds like you don't understand what applying the modifier does

now there are ways to do asymmetry nondestructively, without applying modifiers

here i have a boolean, then a mirror, then another boolean

symmetrical cuts and then an asymmetric one

since i haven't applied anything nothing is committed

apply first modifier,

applied second

applied third

thus i reiterate

i'd suggest that you do anything you can do symmetrically first, then to apply the mirror modifier

and to then do your asymmetric details

and if you're doing booleans, then placing your modifiers in the right order can allow you do to asymmetric details without having to commit all your operations/changes/whatever

hopefully you get the idea

my demonstration thing could be better

[calm lynx]

krev live action blender gameplay (real)

[jade swallow]

thanks

[hot reef]

random question, how are the guns in gttod rigged? like are they rigged with armatures and all done in pose mode? or is it like transformation animation?

[cursive tinsel]

as far as i know they're all done with armatures/bone animation

However

well no they all involve armatures in some way

but i think that the extent to which you need them is arguable

and that it's debatable whether you even need to use the base gttod arm rig to begin with

[hot reef]

alr

[cursive tinsel]

if it's anything like ravenfield every weapon is going to be self contained

by that i mean the arms you select there are not the same arms that you have in any melee animations and such

[hot reef]

because on some first person arm models, the weapons have an extra bone that moves both the writst and the weapon

to make it easier for like moving the arm around while holding the weapon ect

and im not sure if this can be done on two seperate meshes and armatures

[cursive tinsel]

that just makes me think of object-animated guns in ravenfield

if i remember correctly,

which i don't in detail which means i need to reopen my blender files

you can just parent objects to other objects and apply some kind of object constraints to the bones to make them follow the objects

in this case, i have the right hand bone here set up with a 'child of' constraint attached to the main body of the gun

the body is the parent of all the other bits

the bolt, mag, etcetera

i move the gun, the hand follows

and the other hand meanwhile is constrained to the mag, at least in this specific frame

you can keyframe the constraint influence which can be handy for a number of things

[cursive tinsel]

but basically if you wanted to object animate a gun instead of putting in bones, that's entirely possible and how a lot of people did it in ravenfield for ages

though i stopped because i started using the action editor, which i think works a lot better with armatures

and made it a lot more convenient to break up my animations by action instead of working on one long timeline

[cursive tinsel]

what i was getting at here, though

since every weapon is kind of self contained, eg the arm model in the magnum is not the same as the arm model in the AR or the arm model in the pistol

if you wanted to animate something for gttod using a completely different rig and model i think it's entirely possible to do that

you could probably do a weapon without a rig at all if you really wanted to, though that's not saying you should

[hot reef]

ah ty

[cursive tinsel]

i could probably port a lot of the ravenfield stuff i've done right into gttod with no modification because of this

the downside would probably be that it has no neon and completely different hands

while it'd function fine to make it look right i'd probably need to port the gttod arms back over to ravenfield and maybe even make some extra fingers since RF goes for pinkies and index fingers only

which would have been fine back in the era of the murder mittens

and on that note i think it'd be perfectly possible to bring back the old gttod mitten hands

[calm lynx]

krev can you react to my message with a cat emote

[hot reef]

alr final question I have, when you do this way of animating, the gun has no armature correct?

[cursive tinsel]

object animation in my experience tends to imply the gun has no armature

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1097952962581635122/1103060742506303488/image.png

in this example, the only thing with bones was the hands

so no armature in the gun

the important thing is that the other objects are parented to the gun

though in the case of mags you could probably use a constraint instead of fully parenting the mag, as then that would allow you to keyframe constraint influence and throw the mag away without the main gun's movement affecting the toss

though that sort of thing gets into using stuff like visual locrotscale and exits my limited realm of experience

[hot reef]

ah

[cursive tinsel]

i would mention though that i don't really see much benefit these days in doing object animation over bone animation

[hot reef]

I just tested bone constraints

you have ade my life so much easier

I cant thank you enough man

[cursive tinsel]

if you understand how to set up the bones, setting up an armature properly for the gun gets the same result, but if object animation is easier then that's probably the better thing to practice and learn with

[hot reef]

yeah

the only real drawback of object animation for me is switching between modes

well anyways tysm

[patent smelt]

man i cant wait for the mod tools

[hot reef]

krev Ive got one more question

when you use the child of bone constraint and change the influence, does your armature go to some weird spot?

ima record an example one sec

k the recordings arent saving but lemmy try and explain

if you have the child of constraint and move the parent around it moves the bone too

as it should

but if you turn off the influence the bone goes back to its animated position

again, as it should.

is there a way to make it so the bons stays where the constraint moved it to if you turn off the influence?

[cursive tinsel]

that gets into this

[cursive tinsel]

what's happening is basically, i think, that the bone you have selected is at a given set of coordinates

those coordinates are relative to whatever it's been parented to/set to 'child of'

so when you turn off the influence, it, for example

goes from being -2, 4, 6 relative to the object

to -2, 4, 6 relative to wherever it started

this may not make sense yet

but the way around that i believe is to use something called visual locrotscale

[hot reef]

alr

[cursive tinsel]

in this instance

this hand bone is about 0.174 -0.28 0.19 in XYZ coordinates

this is relative to it's parent/target, the magazine

or rather, relative to where the hand would be assuming the magazine was the origin for the bone

if i remove the influence, it is still 0.174 -0.28 0.19 from it's origin

it's just that the mag bone is no longer the origin

[hot reef]

ah

[cursive tinsel]

it's located relevant to the mag's placement and rotation and such rather than whatever origin point it normally has

to my understanding, this is why when you mess with the influence your hand will shift to weird spots for no apparent reason

[hot reef]

alr

[cursive tinsel]

so to my understanding, the thing to do when you want to mess with the influence

is to hit I and make a visual locrotscale keyframe

what that does, i think, is it basically makes a keyframe where your selected bones are where you see they are regardless of any influence

[hot reef]

ah okay

[cursive tinsel]

i believe this should be done after the last frame where the hand is where it should be while under the influence of the other thing

or rather, one frame should be the thing with influence

the next should be the thing without

or vice versa

and that it's not to be used with influence directly

because then it'll do this

this is the visual position stuff being stacked on top of the constraint again which obviously puts the hand in a weird spot

actual animators would probably be better at explaining this in an understandable way

[hot reef]

so its locrostate keyframe then the constraint?

just making sure about I fully understand how to do this

[cursive tinsel]

pose the thing, insert visual locrotscale keyframe, then constraint influence to zero, more or less

[hot reef]

alr tysm

[cursive tinsel]

it may be weird at first but as you experiment you'll probably get the hang of it and figure out how to best use it

[hot reef]

yeah I see how it works now

ty

[empty crane]

If I am interested in developing a mod BUT have very little clue what I'm doing and will likely need help, should I put it under in-dev or request?

[barren flume]

andrew has a video on how to make custom weapons, if you want something done though you put it under "request", or if you are doing something or it got taken, you put it under "in-dev"

if you know the basics and more intermediate stuff with blender, you can make custom weapons

since its no code modding

[empty crane]

I'm not making a weapon from scratch, just planning on trying to re-implement the old Smart Pistol

[barren flume]

ya might wanna go into the assets forum at the bottom then

I think theres a model for the smart pistol

[empty crane]

I already have the model

it's got some quirks when imported into blender but aside from that it should be good to work on mostly

[barren flume]

then yeah you can make a forum post about reimplementing it then, plus you can always ask here for any major help

[hot reef]

thanks krev, I have found a fix to the locrostate thing too

[shell sequoia]

WHEW F U C K

Let's get these tools done

[compact scaffold]

Please do

You got this!

[shell sequoia]

You know what I'm looking forward to the most?

Map mods

Like recreations of other games

Like Spire from Halo Reach

[compact scaffold]

Thatll be fun

If I make a Map I already have an Idea as to what Ill make

[calm lynx]

Map moment

[shell sequoia]

What is it?

[trim jasper]

the romanian gun

[calm lynx]

Gun

[compact scaffold]

Itd be an original map, not one from another game.

[shell sequoia]

What'd you wanna do with it then?

[compact scaffold]

I wanna make either a big tree level, or something else

[shell sequoia]

AHHH

I really hope you make the big tree level

[compact scaffold]

I want to

Since i have the idea for it

Its gonna be entirely vertical

[vestal wasp]

I want to remake titan fall 2 maps

[ripe garden]

It is possible to pair object mods with map mods? (I really want falling buildings

[barren flume]

probably will be yeah

[hot reef]

Fucking 2fort lmao

[shell sequoia]

Map mods are object mods, technically. They're just ones that come with navigation generation and optimization.

[glossy venture]

How are object mods gonna work btw? Do you just pick a spot on a map where you can place a custom object? Can you do it on multiple maps?

[shell sequoia]

Yes, and no

Each object mod can only exist in one spot

But of course you can make multiple mods and package them together in collections

[jolly leaf]

quick question

for the weapon mod tools, is there a way to have right click do the alt fire immediately or do you have to use fire modes?

[shell sequoia]

@calm lynx Your title and description is dumb and I hate you so fucking much I am heading to you right now to rip off your fingers one by one and feed them to my dog

(Translation: I am changing the title and description)

What is your Steam username?

Since otherwise I'm just gonna call you GlennTheDroid

[calm lynx]

For which one

The pistol?

[shell sequoia]

Yes

[calm lynx]

I just told you that because I had nothing better to think of

[calm lynx]

ther

[shell sequoia]

Perfect