After that faithful day, I've been hit pretty hard even for a casual player. So, I'm willing to discuss with anyone about building new teams! Just know I wanna stick to my preferred playstyles with no boundaries being crossed
#Post Patch Team Building
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Here's what I have for 5s, everyone else is 4
And for context, I'm a cyber war player (well, used to before this update. Now it's cam-cyber) in the Pr1me slag alliance
As well as a z15 and z17 Pvp and event guy
And the reason why this matters is to no one's surprise my event performance was gutted
I mean I went from doing 50K in the span of 3 days in Mayhem
to this
Yeah the falloff is absolutely nasty
What do ur current event teams look like?
I only have one as of currently
The rest I'm struggling to come up with at least half a decent synergy as the first one
This was my team before the big patch
Pretty strong looking isn't it?
Now it's reduced to this. Which is absolutely sad
gotcha, and youve been using the current team in z17?
tbh this is all i have to work with and with the balance patch it narrows it down quite a bit so im trying to lv bots up from the low end of power and see what are good 5*s to aim for
Me too
The thing is though I don't wanna go all Meta or too extreme if you get what I mean
Especially double medics
Maybe when I have more medics but not rn
this is what im working with atm but dinobot needs to go as he is my replacement for lugnut but i dont have a good replacement for him so idk really what to do more of
i would choose rippersnapper but i feel like everytime i try rippersnapper just fails
And here's what I'm rocking for her
here r just a few things to consider.
- optimus prime's rally range has been extended back to map-wide, u could consider using him again. but currently u need to wait all 12s to pass before ur next rally to work, just fyi (im assuming hes sa11)
- ur current team is lacking an outpost popper, which i believe was ur lightspeed. id recommend afterbreaker if u dont mind sac'ing, as he has better reach
- slingshot's ab no longer bypasses antidote zone, so watch out for those. unsure if this will be changed back
im using the same but onyx
btw what do u use sandstorm for?
Right, I forgot to mention!
Back before the patch (his range is bugged rn, it'll be fixed next week)
This guy was my ace in the hole. You could even say my main bot
His role was a Hyper offensive version of your typical Rush Warrior. Low health and a decent shield, but high damage and a scrap ton of healing to make up for it. Add it up that he uses the famous fire/acid combo with it and he's destructive to say the least
he does sound he like he had great bursts. was he prone to dying/getting low hp fast?
Before patch, on occasions. Even dying a few times.
Otherwise he'd annihilate most things on his own, even sometimes going low HP, only to Jump right back up
All thanks to his range too with his own combo
so it sounds like hes a high dmg aoe w a risky rush kit, thats sometimes saved by his own healing
i can see u favor him, so this is just a suggestion. would u consider a different bot that fulfills a high dmg aoe role, without having to charge in to deal that?
I mean optimal had that purpose
Hell sandy snipes based in z15 and Weaker z17 bases
But yeah I'll take aoe bot suggestions to pair with him
Thanks
oh to clarify, i mean replacing sandy
this is just my guess but, altho sandy deals a lot of dmg. it sounds like he also puts himself at risk and has to save himself w healing which can stack in ap cost. minerva might also be getting lured in if he rushes far
ohh, if u want to keep him then go for it
my suggestion would have been either scattershot or brainstorm
Oooooo
Both of those choices I like
Especially brainstorm
Brainstorm is one of my favorite jets aside Slingshot
I'll even go as far as to say I like Brainstorm over air raid even
and uve also got a lot of options to trigger his explosion in ur current team, one being slingshot himself
Ah yes, a bot I'm considering replacing alongside Sixgun
And for good reason
Originally I was thinking beach serves as my meat shield support hybrid. To help sandstorm or Ironhide
What made pre nerf beachcomber unique was the reflection.
Alongside the invis and hack
And while the hack is still there, it just doesn't feel the same. With Invis being countered by flare mines, I don't think that attack boost is worth it
i agree that he might not be bringing much value currently
just an idea, u could replace him with brainstorm. but give sandstorm a long-ranged gun (fracas, crb, cratermaker, tiptop) and try use him as en emergency healer
Aight
And my reasons for Sixgun being replaced is also justified
Yeah he has fire damage and big damage too. But I feel his ability is Inconsistent
i experienced the same. his ability animation also takes a good while
Sometimes a rocket is wasted on a target that just got destroyed, which infuriates me
Doesn't help that his ability is expensive either
When I used optimal with sling, I at least knew the targets would be obliterated
With sixgun, I sweat nervously, hoping Sixgun doesn't act like a bot from Call of duty
just to recap, the team as of now:
sandstorm, ironhide, roadbuster, brainstorm, bluestreak, slingshot, minerva, (sixgun)
if this looks right, id say ur team is still missing an outpost popper, which would take the place of sixgun
7 members
Yup
Ironhide does kinda serve as a popper on occasion
Especially given he has G1 and Buzzstrike, meaning he can lure away Stun and hack bots, Liokaiser included
And despite his loss of health Reduction, Bluestreak still serves me well, especially in OHKOing important buildings, Build bots included
ooo g1? do u have any alternative cores?
im concerned for his survivability
There's onyx ofc, which Is currently on 4* Blurr
And I also considered putting onyx on 5* Inferno/Unicronus when I get him
Anyways, here's what my roadbuster is rocking! He took the 5* Solus Prime away from Optimal after his nerf
what about liege? then u can replace buzzstrike w a shield combat
Like Skyboom?
yeeee
Hmmmm
dmg reduction would help ironhide a lot. tho i prefer jaze personally
I'll consider the sets, sure!
Now popper wise
I already have:
Sandstorm (Ace)
Brainstorm (AOE/Ice damage)
Sling (Acid support/offense)
Ironhide (Rush/Sponge)
Minerva (No brainer medic)
Bluestreak (Sniper)
And the function of my Roadbuster is Shield Gen and Beachcomber Killer
what does ace mean?
He's more or less my main bot. Either I can use him for Ironhide's/Pipes rush purposes but offensive, or hang tight and heal the team
My "Balance Type" of the team so to say
So all I need is said popper or sac bot, is this right?
I want to say Afterbreaker but at the same time I don't
Because there's no doubt he does his 2 jobs:
Popping all ops
And crashing and blowing up to smithereens
I see, okay sounds good. As long as uve got one of those guns I mentioned on him, he'll have the option to be versatile like that
Yeah so ud want to deploy him first, pop op/beacons and let die
Yeah
I assume uve got vector and sidetrack for him?
I could put vector on him
It was originally on my Chromia for defense, but I can do that for him!
Originally he had Tactician
To ignore resource buildings and get an easier time popping
Ahhh I see
Is either set for him fine?
Yes, but I think he has enough range that u can always pop a dangerous outpost without tactician pathing
Got it
I'll just put something else on chromia
Like rejuvenate
God I hope Chromia gets a G1 soon
Hold on I might actually ask that
Btw since ur going to use afterbeeaker for sac. Ironhide wouldn't need liege as much
But when I'm not using him or if he fails, Whom else should I use? I got Lightspeed, Dinobot and Blaster of either of those 3 are functional for that
Quintus + the healing weapon can always work on him too
Out of those 4, afterbreaker is best
More range, more coverage, more adaptive for event purposes
Yeah. I might create a second squad, but I wanna test the first one
@sleek cove
It'll still take a few more bases but first test is a success
Even if my phone acted dumb
Woohoo!! I hope ur win rate improves
Ahh for a 2nd squad
Lemme see
So in other words not to choose the previous 8
Which is good for the context of consecutive squads for Mayhem
Actually yeah I do!
I wish he gets a 5* soon
There's no reason it should be kept from us
Perfect. Okay, sidetrack again for him. I'm actually not sure who would benefit more from vector, it'll be up to u
I'm sure it's just a matter of time
4* on Afterbreaker too
Would Kup also be good as a walk bot to stick with squads?
Because I don't wanna be stuck with a cap of 7 bots all the time
Ppl only use him to solo in non mayhem or pvp, or even backdoor during war. But he's not really much w a squad
Wait lemme check his combat options
Oh and im p sure Afterburner and kup has to die, cos u only deploy ur 7 bots after op/biners use up abilities
Which can take a while against swoop, cosmos etc
Yeah, I just wanna make sure defenses don't kill me Either
Which is another concern
The value of op popping is worth a slot, in my opinion
Especially since my only other medic is Wheeljack
Wheeljack 5s?
Yeah
I think he's great, especially paired with op
But I don't use bido, I put ozu on him as he needs the help
Uhh I don't use kunai, I use cl
I use Kunai. Since combat exclusive boost n all.
That's fair
Which is why I'm concerned since Wheeljack is much more frail that Minerva
Yeah and the medium range puts him more at risk when equipped with kunai
Meaning if Wheeljack and Kup die, then it's all on the other 6 bots
Which can be the difference between victory and defeat
Now you see why I was concerned?
That's why ur squad needs to be balanced and have a path planned
I understand the concern, using 7 bots require a tight squad, as few weaknesses as possible
Why is it bad to use 8?
Hmmmmm.... 💡
I say instead of Kup, It'll be Blaster with Quintaxe
With the main goal/win condition being keeping Blaster and Wheeljack Alive
It's not bad to use 8
But if u plan to use 8, ur best option would be rook and grapple pair to compensate no sac
And I saw u don't havve either at 5s
Blaster w quintaxe could work actually, tho I'd be concerned about biner beacons. Unless u plan to bring one urself
Yup I also bring a combiner with me to battle
Ohhhhh
Ok that changes things 😂
Yeah go for it. I've been thinking no biner the whole time
Ya know what?
For sac options, imma alternate between After and Lightspeed in between their squads
Especially when I'm doing no biner challenges in wars
Regardless you're being helpful and I appreciate it 😁
Dear Primus I need to level up the core and axe a bit, it's been a while since I last used this bad boy
So I got Blaster and Wheeljack
Now who else to match the similar criteria of previous Squad while still keeping the 2 safe? 🤔
I'm glad 🙏
Hmmm, what helps me is to fill in a template. Dunno if u have one
Like
- Op popper
- Tank
- Aoe dmg
etc
So one role has to be acid... oh about that. Just so u know, alchemist defense core can't be stopped w acid now
Wait what?!
that explains why I kept losing in the wars too
😂 😭
I go "Eh my og team may be a bit scuffed but I still got this"
The defenses: hahaha no
So now I need to consider a one hitter quitter too
And both Roadbuster and Bluestreak are taken
Otherwise a way to at least reduce the damage, or bo-
wait a minute
Blaster, Wheeljack......
Topspin!
My offense defense Hybrid!
Either him or Jetfire or both
i also think topsin is a great option
pair w whirl? can help keep ap costs down by using both
oh yeah or jetfire, ur choice
Hmmmm
A choice between a jet and a gunner
I'll save that option for last
For now
Blaster, Wheeljack, Topspin
Pipes!
That or Nosecone or slug. Literally either of those 3 work
Wait that's why Dirtbag didn't work on my shield cluster. 
ooo good to dirtbag doesnt work against lifesteal too
I was also thinking of Scattershot for substitute Sling
yee pipes/nosecone/slug good, but i recommend against slug at the moment
I was confused because everything was still healing and I put the mine right on top of Micronus.
Sling is on my primary team. We're constructing my secondary
In case ya needed context worriz
slug passive deals less dmg than before, so im p sure hes dealing the least amount of dmg among standard rush warriors
Yeah my slug is a bit low and not at sa11 yet
His sa11 has a unique ability with the fire where anything burned by him has their attack reduced
Which is fine...if I had the ab11
that is p useful, but pipes acid and nosecone's wall dmg is also advantageous
Which means either Nosecone or Pipes
Blaster
Pipes/Nosecone
Wj
Topspin
Gonna add scatter
wait, dirtbag didnt stop micronus healing?
My pipes has Megatronus while My Nosecone has Leige
No I think it was Alch taking what you said into consideration...as it's on a Shock Tower in the cluster.
ohhhh gotcha
looking good so far
megatronus and skyboom would be a great combo
if u decide to use pipes
I've been keeping track of the chat, great discussion. 👍
Wanna help too?
If I can though I don't think I'll be much help. 😅
It's fine.
So far with team 2 it's a medic, 3 melees and 1 range
Soon 2 range
On one hand I wanna throw in Dinobot, with his Micronus sb Optimus combo
But that'd be putting the team at 4 melees
Is Blaster already in the team?
Yeah
I feel they kinda do a similar role, minions for taking hits/popping outposts.
Yeah
I'll have to save Dinobot for 3rd squad if I ever get there
I got to make sure first 2 works beforehand
I've decided Nosecone is gonna be the official #2
Considering he can distract the ops AND Hack them
sounds good, i assume he has a shield combat?
Yup!
greatt
Imma take off 5* Jaze on beach and slap it on Nosecone!
probably for the best until the team can revisit beachcomber
So now, I'm considering 2 Ranged bots
whirl/jetfire is one option
i think its gotta be whirl, uve a lot of airbots and i think ur long-ranged guns for them r running out
Whirl has utility with the two abilities as well.
True
Yeah whirl it is
The final bot is a solid choice between 3 bots
Air raid, Blades or Bee (Even if bee needs leveling)
wait, final bot? who am i missing:
nosecone, blaster, scatter, WJ, topspin, whirl
thank goodness, u need a support so yeah 2 slots left
2 slots even better.
So
Blades has his hack bomb
Bee has emp, as well as him being my Prima flak guy
And air raid....well is air raid, we all know him too well
i vote air raid
Yeah
nosecone already hacking op, and topspin+whirl should get rid of distant threats so blade hack is situational
yeee
Now for the final Bot
i swear this chat has been going longer then my patience (which is extremely long btw)
Oh come on what's so bad?
That's how we know cooking is good.
Yeah!
These teams are looking legit. 
hol up i gotta see how long this chat is brb
I'll take a screenshot of team 2 when finished
4 hours
The final bot....hmmm
ideally its a support but out of ur 5-stars i see like, no option besides beachcomber
Can you blame us though? The balance patch threw everything into chaos
but beach's ability is a bit inconsistent atm
time to look at my 4*s?
Tracks is a good choice
Lemme look at anyone else who can help
eh its more for dps and very expensive so idk how viable it is depending on the cost of the team as is
but thats at sa11 iirc
but without sa11 is just hack
which is just one pulse
track's 5*
Yeah
I can't wait for track's 5* to be official instead of webstore
First, here's my medics as an option
I really wanted to consider wreck gar so bad, but I don't have his 4*
So in medics it's between ratchet and First aid, but only if I must run double medic with my team
So that'll be in the back burner to use if anything else fails
In terms of combative support I thought of a few choices
One of which besides bee was Mirage for 4(+0) emp support
Tracks 4* will do just fine. 
Another good one backed up by this would make the team 4 melees and 3 ranges would be Rodimus
But then again that wouldn't entirely do anything besides damage
What's Mirage like now, good AOE or sniper sort?
hes breakdown
Aoe emp support
Let me see in base trials, brb'.
You got him at ab11?
I heard he has wider splash with that
WAIT
Besides the double medics thing as back up I got it now!
A choice between Mirage....Or Hot Rod!
No just Sa6, it's a small AOE though the 11 might be something. 
yeah idk the sa11 aoe either
None of us do
All we know is it's big
If only mirage was 5*
I mean it'll complete Maximus but still
mirages emp could be useful but w the team so far, distant threats r taken care of
wait if its a choice between hotrod and tracks, id choose tracks. is hotrod more lvled at the moment?
ur team is expensive, lower ab cost would be ideal
Lemme have a look. Only downside is neither of them have a proper combat
and tracks is aoe dmg reduction
And while hot Rod has G1, tracks ain't got no proper core
perfect to hold a prime core w a universal effect
like nexus, tho i think ur alpha trion is already equipped
oh damn, actually u can move ur prima to tracks
While bumble has what?
u plan to still use him?
Yeah tracks ain't got nothin
Yeah
i was thinking migrating prima+flak completely- oh
alright then, nexus or micronus
yeah 2nd use is really expensive
but usually u'd only use it once, during dire situations
Meaning I outta use him wisely
yeee
I do have one more option
Which I doubt would beat tracks but is still a good one
yeaaah,,, tracks
just to confirm, ur alpha is equipped already?
Alpha trion?
yeah
I don't have his 5*
oh no i mean the prime core
Dinobot
r u going to be using him?
So take nexus off my vector and G1 for him too?
yeah 👍
this is beyond the scope of what ur asking for but i do want to let u know
dinobot on defense sounds not ideal
if u ever reconsider him, taking his micronus and putting it on tracks would be great
i heard hes got a 4th holo now, but in every base attack ive seen w him in outpost, his holos drop p quickly
and besides causing a brief distraction, no other value is added defensively
oh but if he works for u, then ignore me. this is just my guess
I think now's a good time to tell you about my defense?
It's a pretty unique one compared to others you've seen before
sure, that sounds interesting 👀
Upper
Lower
Though now that I heard of the life steal, I swapped Micronus and alchemist around
Anyways the idea of this kind of defense is basically a Killzone. To overwhelm the opponents with the defenses and outposts, which change based on the combiner being used
Although Lazer Optimus has always been on my defense
Okay so I tested them all
3 battles even with ruin
Tracks leveling up a bit more
But holy hell, Quintaxe is stronger than I thought it would be
yooo nice to hear
Red alert also helped me deal with Fellbat too
So there's that
Next battle after did a technical solo with ruin in z15
Which I found funny
The last battle though?! My God
sheeshhh glad u won tho
Yup
Least I know the squads work as intended!
Maybe someday I make a third one. But not today
Thank you for your time man, I'll come back if I ever need help!
Have a gnight
u too, u did a lot of work. good night!
@sleek cove
Both teams have been really fire with good amounts of Success Lately!
Even Red Alert is Impressing me
With these two made, I say it's time for a Team 3!
I'm saying both of them cook, showing off who I have
The top few messages I said for reference
I have all 4*s bur Wreck Gar and Overload
Great to hear!
Gonna have to get back to you tmrw after the newest hot fix is released cos I'm unsure of a few bot's viability till then
Do you already have some bots in mind?
I originally wanted to center a Team around Inferno, but he isn't even invested at all
alright then in the meantime, i think we gotta establish the medic. whos ur current strongest 4s medic?
Ratchet
I originally wanted to do first aid with stripes, But I don't have his Gmetal G1
What's ratchet's build?
Apologies, I don't have a day off to read all this. So I will give a quick tip now,
Add rust dust / scavenger to your squad
His ability range and area damage is incomparable, it is more than twice as good as the next area damaging bot and costs much less
Personally, he is more broken than Leo before the balance changes
Let's not to saying stuff like that. Who knows what'll happen to Rust Dust
But otherwise yeah I agree. She's currently being worked on alongside First aid as we speak
@sleek cove new bot