Audiophiles

[brave sonnet]

that shit is flooded with bass

[cursive wren]

turn up the bass

[brave sonnet]

or the zero blue

ff you want some more traditional subwoofer experience

im using that pair for fps

so thump thump

not the zero og

the pair is sorta bright neutral

not that suitable for rap music

ALL HAIL KING VAMP

[brave sonnet]

tripowin piccolo short review
fit is trash
cable is trash
tuning is so so w shape

4/10

[dusky birch]

[brave sonnet]

hands on a discontinued product

ex-20$ benchmark

found it in my jacket's pocket kekw

[obtuse basalt]

wait, its discontinued?

[vestal walrus]

IEM Tierlist for rhythm gaming / mapping / charting (based from my own experience):

S: EDA Balance, Tangzu Wan Er (XINHS RB Cable)
A: KZ ZSN Pro, Tangzu Wan Er
B: CCA CRA
C:
D: Moondrop Chu

Will update everytime i bought new IEMs
Price to Performance is considered

IEMs on hold: Tanchjim Ola, Simgot EW200

[brave sonnet]

discontinued thingy

rumour that the zero series from truthear will also be discontinued this year

[brave sonnet]

tanchjim tanya review next week

also the truthear hola + moondrop blessing 2

dude money do rain sometimes

[verbal peak]

man

[verbal peak]

looking at trn mt1 pro graph.. the treble kinda fucked

highs

[brave sonnet]

treble for tech listeners

but has to do it right

some brands are infamous for their fucked up highs

yes trn included

[verbal peak]

not gonna mind that

since its my first iem

[verbal peak]

Why I didn't even think of tuning my buds before

Man

[stone aspen]

i loved my hola's

i got a pair of buds fe's and i have been using them for music

[verbal peak]

[verbal peak]

New to audiophile here 🙂 . but heres what id like to say about the TRN MT1 PRO

• The bass is eh moderate, not bad as people said. ||Though It can get harsh a bit||
• the mid/highs id say well balanced and I will say some people will not like it ||same as the bass, can get harsh a bit||
• has like a warm sound to it
• instruments and vocal (mostly vocals) sounds much clearer and pleasant to listen at

Conclusion
I'd say it's worth the purchase for newbie / looking for a proper earphones with a tight budget or not wanting to spend too much

Haven't really tried to play much EQ it lmao

[brave sonnet]

update: my space travel just suddenly stopped charging in the left side

found out during a jogging session

💀

checking real quick

since warranty is a pain in the ass

[fleet fulcrum]

moondrop and qc

name a more infamous duo

[sand fossil]

qc

quick charge

[sand fossil]

does it have ip rating

[brave sonnet]

prob not

but even my budget iems cant be ripped off that fast

[verbal peak]

Hm

[brave sonnet]

update 2: its working again

jesus fuck

moondrop signature

[brave sonnet]

qdc connector

should work with your trn

budget bluetooth adapter

[verbal peak]

I legit been using my trn more than my buds

[brave sonnet]

welcome to the rabbit hole

[sand fossil]

dude i think windows fucked up my volume

everything just sounded quieter

for some reason

ok i fixed it

fucking hell

apparently i plugged in my headphones cable in the wrong way

and IN the wrong audio jack

smartest audiophile on earth

its funny how i can notice the quality drop right away but i couldnt figure out the reason

[hot citrus]

The driver quality is very good

yummy bass

might get the ea500lm

[brave sonnet]

you gonna want to upgrade a way up to em6l

since the difference from 500 to 1000 is shit minor

[brave sonnet]

1st impression on tanchjim tanya (tangzu fudu verse 1 is in my ears rn)
old sub-$20 vocal bonker
loads of eartips
mild v shape w/extended mid
vocals should be pog

also due to the bullet style iem, it should fit everyone

[cursive wren]

https://twitter.com/MoondropLab/status/1767113120894554156?t=g_cvdtjuCFdSe0kvruOU9Q&s=19

MOONDROP (@MoondropLab) on X

MOONDROP Golden Ages Comes Out! 🎊

We're thrilled to announce the release of our latest TWS earbuds, Golden Ages, priced at US$79.99. With a classic design and uncompromising sound quality, it features a state-of-the-art 13mm planar magnetic driver, supports LDAC, LC3, and ANC.

Twitter · Mar 11, 2024, 8:59 AM

[hot citrus]

not fan of the design

• qdc

at that price

💀

might as well get something else

[hot citrus]

I wonder how good the batt life is

planar + ldac,,,

[brave sonnet]

there are kilobuck iems that use qdc

so its preference

kekw

[hot citrus]

thats true

I just like 2 pin more

qdc breaks faster imho

[brave sonnet]

easier to replace

[brave sonnet]

homie have you ever seen mmcx thats broken in 2 weeks

thats in my ie200 pair

2 weeks and die

[hot citrus]

I generally avoid mmcx due to stories like that 💀

[brave sonnet]

its somehow more comfortable than 2pin

[hot citrus]

wait I actually have mmcx iem

[brave sonnet]

and thats about it

[hot citrus]

thankfully it seems robust

[brave sonnet]

breaks so fast people would thought that their pair died

and on god

sennheiser replace cables are extremely expensive

might sell my pair in no time

kekw

[hot citrus]

sennheiser has always been expensive

[brave sonnet]

the whole pair is $120

(secondhand)

and a single pair of cable is $60

💀

homie singlehandedly carries the value

[hot citrus]

man there are literally iem cables costing hundreds and thousands of dollars

and people would still buy it because "it changes the sound" 🤓

[brave sonnet]

welcome to the audiophile placebo

we ballin in $500 worth of cables

to tune the sound

[hot citrus]

🗣️🔥🔥🔥

[fleet fulcrum]

to prove they have hobby

[hot citrus]

me when spend 1000$ on audio equipment for <1% improvement

[brave sonnet]

some people believe that the dac chips have their own sound signature

while in fact, dacs shouldnt change the sound in any aspect

kekw

tried ess, cs, alc, cx

so if you want to upgrade the dac/amp

its when your iems/headphones need more power

not when you want a different sound

[brave sonnet]

imo, the benchmark for any iem should be ~$500

anything thats above the price

is about feelings

rather than stats or specs

[hot citrus]

I only tried cx and kt chips so I cant comment on that yet

idk about one being "brighter" or "warmer" but the only difference I can tell is the volume scaling 💀

[brave sonnet]

thats the point

[hot citrus]

variations is endgame 🗣️

[brave sonnet]

even demoed the ifi go bar

which is the sub $500 dac king

the only diff is the amount of power

[hot citrus]

zamn

[brave sonnet]

that dongle can actually carry the dt990 like nothing

but about the sound

nah

[hot citrus]

I have not tried any hifi headphones yet

man

[brave sonnet]

i quitted the gaming mice n pads for this

now im broke

but in pog sound

[hot citrus]

I wish there was a place here in ph that also allows us to demo some audio stuff 😔

[brave sonnet]

[brave sonnet]

my local audio store allows us to demo some available thingy

not the kilobuck stuffs tho

sometimes i go and meet my friend

who has a ton of these things

gotta scam fast

[hot citrus]

thats cool af

here its always blind buy 😂

unless you know someone who shares the same hobby as you (wasting money)

[brave sonnet]

Blessing 3:Dusk sneak peak @ CanJam

supposed to have a configuration of 2dd+2ba+2planar

[stone aspen]

2 planar drivers thats crazy

[brave sonnet]

should need some decent source to pull this thing off

also "moondrop qc"

my friend's blessing 2's faceplate fell off after 2 months

[cursive wren]

wow I really need a new TWS

after using Starfield 2 for quite a while now that I feel like my Redmi Buds sound like a shit

any recommend?

under $30 will do

[hot citrus]

just buy space travel

problem solved

[obtuse basalt]

ya

join us and be one of the space travellers

[half yoke]

Is space travel any good

JESUS THEY TRYNA CHARGE 100$ for A 20-30$ BUDS HERE

WHAT

nah i’d rather wait for aliexpress to ship it. 😭

seems okay but takes a LOT of time to deliver

[brave sonnet]

join us

be a space traveller

[hot citrus]

this looks so cool

the only reason to buy custom cables

[cursive wren]

neat

[brave sonnet]

clean

[brave sonnet]

official: blessing 3:dusk is up

comes w/ 3.5mm + dsp cables

[dusky birch]

epic cables you got there

[brave sonnet]

review inc.

kiwi ears forteza

[hot citrus]

nahh its not mine 😭

[hot citrus]

how is it

v shape

big treble peak,,

[brave sonnet]

treble is a pain in the ass for some

(not for me tho)

also the huge subbass boost

and slightly thin vocal

especially female ones

my 1st impression would be

for the instrumental gang

not for vocalheads tho

[dusky birch]

oh

[brave sonnet]

Kiwi Ears Forteza: Not for the Majority
$59 MSRP, should be cheaper if you buy it from online marketplace (Shopee, Ali, Laz, etc.)

Fit: UIEM-shaped, so the comfort is pog, nozzle is on the middleground in term of length, so most people can fit those easily.

Cable: no microphonic from my copy, decent for the price (quick check, my Kiwi Ears Quartet has the exact same cable as the Forteza, and the Quartet is twice the price).

Build: lightweight, resin is alright (no bubble throughout the shell), can wear those for long listening sessions.

Source + Music files: note above, you can look it up

Soundstage: decent in width, just sufficient in height, have no problem in target pinpointing in tac.fps (tested with CS2, Valorant, R6S).

Bass: subbass monster, the bass is punchy as shit, even with the rumble. But in busy tracks, the Forteza has somehow slow bass and a lil bit lack of control.
Mid: As a pair of v-shape tuning IEMs, the midrange (especially the lower mid) is a little bit recessed, so vocalheads can just stop reading this scuffed review from here. Its recessed on the leaner side, so the vocal sounds a little bit thin to my ears.
Treble: sparkly as fuck, im fine with it, but some people can find this pair extremely fatiguing. But to me, the treble extension from those is some of the most insane thing ive listened within the price bracket.

Pros: Build Quality (UIEM-styled)
Bass Amount
Gucci Looking
Comfort
Soundstage is decent enough even for gaming

Cons: Treble is not for the majority
Mid is a little bit thin, so vocals can sound dry

Personal score: 7/10

Genre: Electronic, Instrumental, Every shit w/Insane bass

not recommended for weeb playlist

||gonna cop the orchestra lite + dusk and imma flee from this endless game||

[cursive wren]

[brave sonnet]

source updated:
Truthear Shio
Moondrop Dawn Pro / iBasso DC04 Pro

[patent bronze]

Anyone has recommendation for tws under 40$?

would be good if it has the same eq graph as ZSN pro

[brave sonnet]

space travel

be a space traveller

[cursive wren]

We should have a tier list fr

Best iem/tws for rhythm game player

[brave sonnet]

then just list best musically iems

sorta tierlist

imma experiment around

[fleet fulcrum]

doubt so

for osu's case, you are listening to 192kbps mp3 file at best

otherwise its a very crusty 128kbps

so there isnt much you can do here

[brave sonnet]

for sone reason i just kept forgot

[fleet fulcrum]

im not sure the case for other rhythm games

[brave sonnet]

that osu music files are 192kbps max

kekw

[fleet fulcrum]

for malody its even better (ogg lol)

[brave sonnet]

so imma just advise them to kz then

[fleet fulcrum]

i would say for rhythm game player, comfortable fit and non-fatigue tuning is much more important

[brave sonnet]

[fleet fulcrum]

cough kz edz cough

also courtesy of this https://discord.com/channels/316545691545501706/1147567314594705479

wireless bud should also be considered

[half yoke]

i use my airpods to game

[fleet fulcrum]

because lets be real, having wire getting in the way of your play suck balls

[brave sonnet]

good point

like some pairs of iems

have the tendency to be crusted when having low quality music source

so just a so-so pair should work

and some wireless sets

now have the 2.4ghz dongle

so latency-free

[brave sonnet]

blessing 2, orchestra, timeless, just to name a few

[sand fossil]

this ^^^

there should be a separate list

one is for gaming

and one is for sound quality

[fleet fulcrum]

for sound quality just check crinacle lol

[dusky birch]

crinacle goated

[fleet fulcrum]

#technology message

tbf, i dont really like his list

explained in this rant

[brave sonnet]

homie hop on so many collabs that the marketplace is sorta

saturated?

not hatin on him

but yeah

the same tuning w/subbass boost

ngl hbb collabs are actually a lot more interesting

if you ask me

also same opinion to nero

[cursive wren]

stupid question (which does not relate anything about the topic)

[brave sonnet]

the way homie just called the chu 2 the $20 god

[cursive wren]

iOS has any good EQ app or nah

[brave sonnet]

🏃‍♂️

the only reason i havent hop on ios thingy

is about music player shit

have to get myself a dap when i cop that iphone

[fleet fulcrum]

for system wide EQ, there is none

for music player app EQ, iirc there is neutron

[cursive wren]

[fleet fulcrum]

though dont quote me on this i dont use ios

[cursive wren]

the fact that iOS cannot custom EQ is kinda bruh

they have like million presets

[fleet fulcrum]

maybe send EU a passionate email about how it is unfair and they mayyyy do something

just like emulator

[cursive wren]

which suck

[cursive wren]

💀

[brave sonnet]

Qudelix 5K is the systemwide EQ for Apple Ecosystem

[fleet fulcrum]

hardware?

[brave sonnet]

yepper

[fleet fulcrum]

kekw

[brave sonnet]

those ios users are kinda stuck

since the os doesnt allow changes

[fleet fulcrum]

hmm

any dsp dinky with eq app?

[brave sonnet]

(not much but you can jailbreak)

🏃‍♂️

[fleet fulcrum]

that could work

[brave sonnet]

w/that 1/10 tier moondorp app

would be rejected in 5 seconds

♿

besides that

nothing much

[fleet fulcrum]

https://www.reddit.com/r/iems/comments/16y1git/tanchjim_one_dsp_with_ios_app/

yea seem like cheapo dsp app cant do anything

even with type c iphone

[cursive wren]

cope

[dusky birch]

oh, that's what i also hate about him 😂

but his settings are goated frfr

[hot citrus]

my last purchase probably

[brave sonnet]

nice pair

could you do like a

review after using for a few days

since in my country

we have this pair at $90

[hot citrus]

ok sure

my first impressions were boring and neutral as fuck

but now idk

track dependent ig

i need some time w it

[half yoke]

@hot citrus

which platform do you listen music on

[hot citrus]

osu

💀💀💀

then use musicolet for making a music library

for streaming then mostly yt music

I have some flac files (mostly for my favourite tracks) but the file size to detail or enjoyment ratio just isnt worth it imo

[dusky birch]

neat pairs, man

also, like the cables

[hot citrus]

stock cables are getting good 🗣️

[dusky birch]

damn

[brave sonnet]

didnt seen that letshouer havin decent stock cables

kekw

the stock cable on the s12

is absolute trash

[brave sonnet]

since i got my zero red back

review in 1-2 days

[hot citrus]

hows it

thats probly better than the galileo

i still need more time for the gali

been having mix feelings lmao

[brave sonnet]

smooth tuningwise

need some more time to have exact review

since ive given this pair to my teammate for like

3 month-ish

kekw

[brave sonnet]

giz collabs are tent to have the vocal thingy

since his taste is mainly female vocals

give it more time

[hot citrus]

the vocals is pretty good

but i feel like for making the vocals more pronounced, the instruments along within that frequency range can get too forward either

or idk

i cant really put my finger on it

but somewhere around 4-8k is hurting my ears

[brave sonnet]

thats somehow how the vocal iems are tuned

tanchjim kara or the kato

imo

all having some sib in the upper mid - lower treble

i have that exact mixed opinion on the kato

sold it btw

[stable shard]

is this thread only for iem specifically or all of audio stuff in general?

i wanna ask for cheap headphone recommendation

i have good sounding iem, but it kinda caused my ear to be hurt when wearing it for too long

and sometimes it like to fall off, that contribute to the pain too

[brave sonnet]

its audiophile thread

so everything related to audio stuff should be allow

[stable shard]

ok

[brave sonnet]

but i afraid there arent many people around are hanging w/headphones

[stable shard]

yeah it's kinda hard to buy headphone vs iem

too much shit

[brave sonnet]

i have a demo session at my friend's place in a few days

he has a few pairs

gonna tell you later

[stable shard]

alrighty

[brave sonnet]

budgetwise?

[stable shard]

thanks dude

[brave sonnet]

like

how much you can afford

[stable shard]

honestly, between rm100-150

[brave sonnet]

gonna ask my homie later

[brave sonnet]

noted

[stable shard]

20-31 usd

[sand fossil]

hi

i am the guy thats hanging w/headphones

@stable shard u can ask me

[brave sonnet]

ah yes

i forgor

[sand fossil]

about headphones related

[brave sonnet]

plub is hanging

ballin

[sand fossil]

yea im hanging myself

good bye world

[brave sonnet]

[brave sonnet]

bye bye world

[stable shard]

ok lets speedrun

need good sounding cheap headphone

Aroun' 20-31 usd

or rm100-150 in my currency

[sand fossil]

wired or wireless

for what purpose

music or gaming

or general use

[stable shard]

wired/wireless any but prefer wire

gaming/music, i game and music aswell

so maybe somewhere in the middle

for uses

im planning

well

just to put it on my room mostly

or in rare occasion

i have it outside

[sand fossil]

kk

i generally dont recommend razer but considering your budget its kinda tight

so here

[stone aspen]

you gonna recommend him a razer headphone?

[sand fossil]

• Razer Blackshark V2 X
• HyperX Cloud Stinger 2 (if you want better sound quality than the core)
• HyperX Cloud Stinger 2 core (for better comfort)

@stable shard

[fleet fulcrum]

me when headphone vs headset

[sand fossil]

headphones with decent quality at this price are mostly gaming brands

[fleet fulcrum]

headphone + microphone = headset

and i generally dont recommend buying headset

[stone aspen]

hmmm

[fleet fulcrum]

just headphone + a microphone

[sand fossil]

yea that is better

[fleet fulcrum]

i got too lucky for getting a shure srh840 for 50 bucks that i cant really give recommendation for cheap headphone

[sand fossil]

but most headphones around 30usd looks like shit

[fleet fulcrum]

but i heard good thing about koss's budget line

[sand fossil]

and its uncomfortable af

[fleet fulcrum]

like a koss ksc75

or porta pro (which have a dinky ass microphone iirc)

[stone aspen]

i was just about to talk about koss

[sand fossil]

holy shit

wtf is that

[fleet fulcrum]

a legend

[fleet fulcrum]

yes, i know it has a very radical design

[sand fossil]

id probably get make fun of if i wear this to my university

[fleet fulcrum]

but it earn its spot in the audiophile community for a reason

[sand fossil]

lmao

i think i have one

but idk where it is now

[fleet fulcrum]

also for this price point i really dont expect those gaming headset to have good fit/comfort in a swellingly hot day

ear clip fit just hit diff

[stone aspen]

have you ever tried these tho

the ksc75

are they really comfortable

[sand fossil]

yea

its very limited lol

[fleet fulcrum]

havent really tried it for a long session though

[stable shard]

Ok thanks babe

i'll look it up after im home

👍

[sand fossil]

check prices

they might be a little bit out of the budget

but probably not over 5$

[hot citrus]

some old recommendations from similar price range ive seen were

• Philips SHP9500
• Samson SR850
• Superlux HD681

The last recommended headphones ive heard was jbl tune 710bt (you can still put aux cord for wired)

if you can get it on sale that is

it drops to 35usd here in ph with vouchers from time to time

[stable shard]

noted ty

[sand fossil]

i use the shp9500 rn and its way over 30usd lol

the lowest one you can probably find is 50usd

the market price is around 80usd rn

i sniped them for 60usd tho

steal

[hot citrus]

nvm ur right

apparently the 2099php one was a bluetooth module 💀

[sand fossil]

does the jbl tune 710bt really go that low?

[hot citrus]

yes

[sand fossil]

no way

[hot citrus]

wait

ill check if its on sale rn

[sand fossil]

most of them that i see rn are like

80$

to 100$

theres some thats 50usd or less

but its either scam or 2nd hand

and also

will you really buy the Samson SR850 and the
Superlux HD681

they both look like shit lmao

[hot citrus]

bruh normal price here is like 50-60$

it goes down to 40$ mostly with vouchers

[sand fossil]

different country moment

[hot citrus]

rn theres no huge sale

but i can get it for 45usd

[sand fossil]

damn

thats insane

[hot citrus]

some shops do be sus thats for sure

[sand fossil]

im waiting for the sony xm6 release 🤤 this year

or the sennheiser momentum 5

next year

[hot citrus]

but like theres a lot of good reviews for some shops

[sand fossil]

omw to blow 400usd for a headphone

gg

stupid expensive hobby

[hot citrus]

one shop is where i bought the razer viper mini from and they are selling the 710bt for like the same discounted price so ig its legit

[sand fossil]

i mean if its the same shop

and u didnt get scammed

then its prob legit

[hot citrus]

zamn

try iems

less expensive for same performance

[sand fossil]

i already have good headphones

i dont need iems lol

• im lazy to buy an adapter for my phone

just to use an iem on it

[hot citrus]

😭

ig thats fine too

[sand fossil]

my wireless headphone is already capable enough to listen to basically anything

[hot citrus]

im just not into the headphones rabbit hole yet (its too expensive)

[sand fossil]

yea mine has a 200$ price tag

expensive af 😭

but its worth it 🤤

[hot citrus]

poggers

what headphones(?)

[sand fossil]

edifier wh950nb

[hot citrus]

o

[sand fossil]

very solid headphones

it goes on sale very often

[hot citrus]

ive seen some compliments from some forums

[sand fossil]

i got mine for 90usd

[hot citrus]

[stable shard]

not affordable for me sadly

i was eyeing them before

[sand fossil]

aw

[stable shard]

but im questioning myself everyday about "is this headphone worth the money"

[sand fossil]

its worth

it

trust

ive already made 4 of my irl friend buy them

because i let them listen to mine first

lmao

these guys are sniping the discount vouchers just to buy it

so it must be good

the build quality is pretty good

sound is gunga

if u use them with an eq

🤤

has insane battery life

and great comfort

the only problem i have is its quite heavy

because of its 55hrs battery

[stable shard]

bro think i have 700 ringgit

[sand fossil]

save up

[stable shard]

i can't

im saving up for my school diploma shit

[sand fossil]

get that done first

[stable shard]

rhat's why im looking for cheaper option

lol

[sand fossil]

lol

[stable shard]

shp9500 look solid ngl

i can save up abit

[sand fossil]

yea im using them rn

[stable shard]

lemme see other first

[sand fossil]

its crazy good for its price lol

[stable shard]

meybe cheaper

[sand fossil]

if u can get them with vouchers its a steal

[stable shard]

what about for gaming usage

[sand fossil]

i am using it for gaming too

i have superhuman hearings

with it

i use the shp9500 for my desktop

and the edifier for outside usage

[sand fossil]

its the best audiophile headphone for its price

at the time when i bought it

idk now tho

[stable shard]

@sand fossil is kraken X good tho

[hot citrus]

no

💀

[sand fossil]

its old as shit

kraken v3 x yea its good

but kraken x no

[stable shard]

i honestly kinda like this design

vibing

with it

wearing it make you feel like you in the 90s

[sand fossil]

but you get make fun of 10000000%

[hot citrus]

you can mod it

I think you can buy headbands for koss products

[sand fossil]

what about the noise isolation

[stable shard]

you know, i hope moondrop make a good cheap headphone

and shake the headphone market

like how they did with chu

[hot citrus]

i mean

[stable shard]

[hot citrus]

its a openback headphone

so noise isolation is non existent 💀

[sand fossil]

true

the shp9500 is also open back

[brave sonnet]

zero:red fits in my ears

one of a few pairs that i actually have to use aftermarket tips

kekw

[hot citrus]

this is the first time I tip rolled this iem and I love it now 😭😭

but its already pending to be sold later

gg

[hot citrus]

god i love moondrop and qc issues

[fleet fulcrum]

kek

[brave sonnet]

kekw

[obtuse basalt]

hell nawl

[sand fossil]

@stable shard did u buy new headset yet

if not then add this to your list: jbl quantum 100

its exactly in your budget and theyre quality

probably better than the blackshark v2 x

in both price and quality

[stable shard]

not yet

still thinking

[sand fossil]

we are banging

4616kbps 🤤

[thorn nymph]

👀

I will not accept this Wan'Er slander

:(

Even though tbh I would personally prefer the zero2 but I believe Wan'Er is not completely irrelevant as a budget IEM, it's still a solid choice for vocal lovers/bass haters

Plus you can't complain about Wan'Er's build while zero2 also has a plastic shell lol

and imo even though it is plastic, the shell on the wan'er is a lot more comfortable to wear for a long time when compared to the zero2

[dull wind]

idk why but the cable for my kz zsn pro x is still holding strong after accidental abuses

[hot citrus]

bass haters 💀

the waner still has sufficiently good bass

[thorn nymph]

Yes it does, but it's not enough for me lmao

I meant that as a comparison to the other competitors in the price segment

Chu II, Hola, Zero2 etc

[hot citrus]

I took the risk of buying the qkz hbb hades

lets check how good or bad it is 🗣️

[brave sonnet]

ymmv

we ball

[thorn nymph]

I don't think it's a mileage varying thing

it's preference

[cursive wren]

https://twitter.com/MoondropLab/status/1782331624446726554?t=-agpRre8mRgqoBA9kXTWZw&s=19

MOONDROP (@MoondropLab) on X

If a smartphone can be used as HiFi player with a sleek and slim body, features 3.5mm+4.4mm interfaces, and offers smooth operating for daily use. ...

Twitter · Apr 22, 2024, 8:52 AM

mmmmmm

[obtuse basalt]

looks cool but hear me out

moondrop qc

[cursive wren]

real

[hot citrus]

stay away from this shit

i was expecting some subwoofer type of bass sound

it sounds like 1dd with just boosted bass in eq

wtf

just get an ak6

[fleet fulcrum]

[hot citrus]

holy box

[thorn nymph]

I know it's going to be a good music player

but no idea if it's gonna be a good phone or not

[obtuse basalt]

yeah, pretty much the most important thing

lets hope its not gonna end up like xiaomi

[cursive wren]

I have a feeling that is just a mid phone

[obtuse basalt]

very well might be since its their first attempt at making phones

but hey, at least the phone looks pretty hot

[obtuse basalt]

high sex

[sand fossil]

guys do not buy edifier products they are a piece of shit

worst customer service ever stupid china brand

do not buy shits from them

go play with sennheiser or sony instead

my headphones has a problem (creaking noise very annoying when wearing and it really affects real-life usage) and i wanted to use the warranty to get a new one and they wouldnt let me saying its a normal thing

while 2 of my other friend has the exact same headphones and they dont have that problem when only i do

and theyre still sticking with the same lame ass excuse saying its normal

and they wouldnt let me use the warranty even though i have a 1 year warranty

and they just told me to get a refund instead so stupid

and u know how annoying and slow it is do refund shits in lazada and shopee whatever

i gave them 1 star review and blacklisted them from my account

[fleet fulcrum]

damn blud have a full character arc in... check note.... 4 months

[sand fossil]

they made me start my villian arc

[fleet fulcrum]

@sand fossil buy koss, embrace funny looking headphone

[sand fossil]

lol

[fleet fulcrum]

but yea i expect edifier to be a poor man sony with all the downside of one

[sand fossil]

im just gonna wait for sony xm6(around august this year) or sennheiser momentum 5 (prob summer next year)

[fleet fulcrum]

so whatever

[sand fossil]

i got unlucky with it too

[fleet fulcrum]

jesus sen momentum?

[sand fossil]

kinda sucks

dude whats wrong with me and faulty electronic hardwares??????

first was the bs4 now headphones

[fleet fulcrum]

skill issue

[sand fossil]

luck issue dumbo

no skill

[fleet fulcrum]

nah thats cope

[sand fossil]

grrrrr

[fleet fulcrum]

[sand fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/emoji-mad-gif-10123180

[fleet fulcrum]

also remind me to buy my replacement cable for the shure again

bought one and they just cancel my order

[sand fossil]

yep they are similar in price of sony

[fleet fulcrum]

200 bucks +

bruh

[sand fossil]

same price as xm5

at least here in th

[hot citrus]

just buy hd600 and be done w everything

[fleet fulcrum]

@hot citrus he want wireless

duh

also the hd600 is like nearly 300 bucks

[hot citrus]

??

but u recommend koss

[fleet fulcrum]

because its so cheap might as well buy it for fun

regardless of being wired

[hot citrus]

then theres nothing bad recommending possible "endgame" headphones so they can stop wasting money anymore on audio doesnt it

[fleet fulcrum]

also it was a half joke as well

[hot citrus]

same

bruh

audio itself is a joke anyways

everything is subjective

[fleet fulcrum]

280 is a lot for a wired headphone no matter how audiophile community want you to believe

also keep in mind that the hur dur 600 is open back too

[stone aspen]

fr 280 is so fucking expensive here where i live

[fleet fulcrum]

which depends on use case is a terrible recommendedation

[hot citrus]

true, but still not a bad advice to just get one good product and not dive into the rabbit hole

that is if sq is really your highest priority

[fleet fulcrum]

thats on the buyer to decide if they want to burn more cash

the koss cost like 30 bucks

is the hd600 9 times better?

most likely no

[hot citrus]

thats on the buyer to decide

[fleet fulcrum]

the value proposition already fall off once you venture outside of the 50 bucks

[verbal peak]

ok i need another iem under 10 bucks tbh

for my dad

[thorn nymph]

under 10?????

[verbal peak]

cheapskate moment

[thorn nymph]

uh idk try finding secondhand chu

[verbal peak]

i can buy another mt1 pro but nyeh

wolfram 50 myr

[floral echo]

Wolfram Alpha

Click here for full result

Request for starstsu

[verbal peak]

oh oops

wolfram 50 myr to usd

[floral echo]

Wolfram Alpha

Click here for full result

Request for starstsu

[thorn nymph]

it might be possible to find moondrop quarks at that price

do you think your dad would mind having a USB-C IEM @verbal peak

https://www.carousell.com.my/p/1265705085/

https://www.carousell.com.my/p/1297621656/

@verbal peak

[verbal peak]

no need anything fancy

[thorn nymph]

https://www.carousell.com.my/p/1294193479/

dude

this is not fancy

[verbal peak]

eh his phone dosent have one and
as long as its detachable

[thorn nymph]

?

[verbal peak]

hm

[thorn nymph]

you mean his phone does not have USB-C?

[verbal peak]

ye

old phone . still use 3.5mm jack

[thorn nymph]

bruh wow

[verbal peak]

i might just go balling

buy the most outrageous iem

qkz

[thorn nymph]

I guess if you're only willing to spend 10 USD

you don't have much of a choice besides the CCA CRA

you can try to look for a truthear Hola

[stone aspen]

how do you even find a truthear hola for 10 usd

[verbal peak]

Might gonna get him CRA

And gonna swap with mine if my dad dosent like it

[patent bronze]

hey um

i just broke my iem lmfao

i need recommendation asap

budget is below 25$

💀 🙏

[brave sonnet]

25 bucks

for the majority

wan er

chu 2

prolly kiwi cadenza

[patent bronze]

any idea on why not to buy KZ?

[brave sonnet]

to my perspective

kz is just

not the best thingy

also the tuning

too generic v shape

[patent bronze]

I see

[brave sonnet]

people gonna phrase the kz, i get it

especially the zs10 iirc

[patent bronze]

well this zsn pro that broke is actually my first iem

[fleet fulcrum]

kz is fine

[brave sonnet]

decent start tho

not gonna boycott or anything

but yep

not for me

too generic

[fleet fulcrum]

v shape is non fatigue and work for a wide range of mastering quality

[patent bronze]

maybe buying a new one actually feels like an upgrade

[fleet fulcrum]

ironically one thing that they (and the wan'er) suffer is plasticy goofy ah build quality

which is hilarious since its just 20 bones

[brave sonnet]

kz cable is actually a thing

🏃‍♂️

[fleet fulcrum]

also chu 2 is v shape too

so

🏃

[brave sonnet]

yep

forgot about that

🏃‍♂️

im jumping straight from chu 1 to aria

[patent bronze]

thing that i do when i use zsn pro is that i had to get rid of some mid bass freq to actually feels appealing in my ear lol

[fleet fulcrum]

then you might find a less aggressive v shape to work better

[sand fossil]

chu 2

[fleet fulcrum]

@patent bronze hmmm, sound signature wise, you can try salnote zero

[patent bronze]

actually im kinda clueless the whole time

~~what is V shaped ~~

[fleet fulcrum]

ah then that image is conveniently display it then

[fleet fulcrum]

@patent bronze you notice why its called "v-shape" from this image?

[brave sonnet]

from the frequency response graph

[patent bronze]

yea ig

[brave sonnet]

you can see several shapes

[patent bronze]

uh huh

[brave sonnet]

(shape-ish im blind ass)

v shape means

elevated bass + treble

and recessed midrange

so you can see the V thingy

[patent bronze]

the one on the middle ?

[fleet fulcrum]

yep

[brave sonnet]

its called midrange

yep

[patent bronze]

Ah okey

actually lemme send you my eq

it's kinda funny

[fleet fulcrum]

mid range is where the vocal usually is, and since our ear was conditioned to listen to speech, this is our most sensitive region

which usually require iem tuning to dib a bit in the mid range

[brave sonnet]

also an alternative graph from v shape is u shape

should be similar

[patent bronze]

[brave sonnet]

but the midrange is less recessed

[fleet fulcrum]

this graph

on zsn?

[brave sonnet]

holy

[patent bronze]

yeah

[fleet fulcrum]

ok scratch that

[brave sonnet]

on a pair of kz

insane

[fleet fulcrum]

you are a bass head

buy skull candy

[patent bronze]

No like

[fleet fulcrum]

its okay

to be a basshead

[brave sonnet]

the audiophile hobby

[fleet fulcrum]

i mean, some audiophile will probably judge you

[brave sonnet]

its all about preference

should be alrighty

[fleet fulcrum]

but screw them

[brave sonnet]

[cursive wren]

just buy the thing that you feel like it

[brave sonnet]

like for my take

[patent bronze]

Wait no hold on

[brave sonnet]

the variations pair is not that par w/$500 bracket

dont kill me

[fleet fulcrum]

im happy with my aria

thats all

[patent bronze]

what's the bluetooth headset called

[fleet fulcrum]

[patent bronze]

I forgor the name

[fleet fulcrum]

oh yea you can buy tws

[patent bronze]

Ah ye tws

[fleet fulcrum]

they have extra bass due to all the extra electronic creating resistance

[brave sonnet]

true wireless

if you want that cannon-ish bass

buy every jbl you can see

and you should be happy

[patent bronze]

I've tried my friend bassy tws, it sound really sucks

[fleet fulcrum]

which one?

[patent bronze]

really cheap tws

holdon

lenovo gm2 pro

[brave sonnet]

its like

10 bucks?

[patent bronze]

Yep

It's 5$ here

[brave sonnet]

its joever

[patent bronze]

Basically i need both bass and treble

yeet the mid range

[fleet fulcrum]

its bootleg

genuine one is 15 bones

but yea that graph is dick wank wank

[cursive wren]

☠️

[brave sonnet]

bro

what

💀

honkey ass

[patent bronze]

bro just counter the target

[fleet fulcrum]

treble +15db babeeee

its extremely sharp

and gonna be pretty fatigue

[brave sonnet]

that treble

gonna cut my whole arm in a single tone

holy

[patent bronze]

WAIT

bruhhhhhhhhhhhh

so basically

[brave sonnet]

even my pair of forteza cant have that spike diff like that

what a madlad

[fleet fulcrum]

i mean, if you played around with eq you should already notice

[patent bronze]

that's why I tend to not focus when having conversation real time

[brave sonnet]

[patent bronze]

oh

my

God

[fleet fulcrum]

if it do be like that

sure i guess

anyway

since we are in bass territory now

[patent bronze]

ye

[fleet fulcrum]

maybeee kiwi ear cadenza?

[patent bronze]

30$

[fleet fulcrum]

yea its a bit niche

but looks kinda nice

or blon bl03

[patent bronze]

blon graph kinda same as zsn pro

actually higher bass

[fleet fulcrum]

less treble relatively speaking

[patent bronze]

Yea

[hot citrus]

💀

bro wants hearing damage

honestly

if you just want a good vshaped iem

and you like the kz house sound

then just get the 5$ edx pro

[patent bronze]

bruh

that means my first iem actually kinda good to me

K i think im going for chu 2

wanted to try something new

i mean it is new lmfao i only owned one iem

ever

yep goodbye 19$ worth of savings

[fleet fulcrum]

i need to +rep for my wired headphone

the shure srh840, i would be a bit hesitate to buy at its full price of ($200) but if i can buy used for half of that price i would buy it in a heartbeat

and i bought it for 1/5 of that

imaging is probably not the best for that price (its not like i have anything to compared) but hot damn the out of the box tuning is so clear

not too bright so i don't feel uncomfortable listen for long session

[thorn nymph]

man I also want one :(((((((

It has been my favourite at that price point

but all I can find are either SRH840A or crappy used SRH840

like with the leather headband peeling off

[cursive wren]

ok so.... I'm looking for a budget (<$30) tws for my friend bday

Is Space Travel still a good option?

My friend's whole point is just to listen to music anyways or is there any cheaper option

[thorn nymph]

Just get the space travel

Trust

Literally the only thing I don't like are the eartips

Everything else is basically perfect for this price

[cursive wren]

got it

mf broke his airpod by dropped it in the railways

[stone aspen]

there's the ht05's i guess?

idk if they're are at 30 dollars right now tho

they're not nvm

[fleet fulcrum]

tbf mine is also very used

but if it work it work

cosmetic be damn

[thorn nymph]

well I also don't have a problem if it's doesn't literally peel off and mix into my hair

I'm not a very good lowballer lol

[patent bronze]

she's home

My first impression is

why is it sounds quiter

i already put on max volume and it's still kinda quiet

[fleet fulcrum]

idk check connection

these thing should sound plenty loud unless you want permanent hearing loss

otherwise errr, welcome to moondrop QC

[patent bronze]

I already got hearing loss

dw

[fleet fulcrum]

yea we can tell

[patent bronze]

Wait is it because zsn pro has bigger impedance?

[fleet fulcrum]

bigger impedance = require more power to drive otherwise it will sound small

but in the range of these iem

they dont really matter

they are not driving some massive drum

most of these chifi iem just go with 1x10mm dynamic drive config

which require pratically nothing to drive

[fleet fulcrum]

also impedance is only half of the equation

there is also sensitivity (electricity -> loudness) measured by db/mW

which actually have a much more direct relation to how loud a headphone can be

[patent bronze]

man

[fleet fulcrum]

you give this much eletricity power (in mili watt), the headphone get this loud (in decibel)

very straight forward

well i have not recommended chu 2 to you

so

🏃

[fleet fulcrum]

maybe trying another eartip that fit your ear better can help too

[patent bronze]

💀💀💀

Ok i used my old eartip

it sounds a lot better now

but still quiter

[fleet fulcrum]

hmmm

i really dont know how loud it is