What phone to buy for osu!droid?

[torn dune]

He need only SS, and anytime he can get fps, this setting makes it worse for him

[eager cloud]

gg

[hasty wigeon]

I was gonna get the S24 but then the global ver is not sd, it's fucking exynos 😭 ||ik its an Old post, I was just checking if anyone had an iqoo or oneplus ace to check if the china rom was fine||

[sick knot]

buy an s23 and save yourself moolah

[hasty wigeon]

theres are few S24s that are literally cheaper than some S23 price... its just that their from philippines, so its exynos models 😭

im gonna plan on buying second hand ofc

[sick knot]

yea s23 hold it price too well

😭

[hasty wigeon]

you think its still just worth it to bite it to buy the s24 thats exynos,,, or should i go for the oneplus ace 5,, theyre around the same price both except samsung's is 2nd hand and the oneplus is brand new,,, but china rom

[lofty meteor]

I believe that our children will continue this thread about s124 ultra macro hyper nova

[clear lynx]

Guys iqoo z9 turbo is good?

[sick knot]

@grave cairn

[lethal pivot]

|| turbo or turbo+ 👁️||

[clear lynx]

Turbo

[grave cairn]

@clear lynx
pros:

• cheap af
• using snap 8sg3, gaming performance is good enough (eg jenshin impact - high setting), and pretty overkill for daily use
• 144hz amoled screen, really good for clicking circles
• 6000mah battery, daily screen time is extremely good, around 11 hours on-screen or more, 80W charging speed is good enough for me
• smooth OS, like really smooth, i dont see any conflict with global apps

• cons

• bad design, back cover are made of cheap plastic and can easily get scratch
• display quality is meh, and many people report that their screen has burn-in issue (including me)
• bad camera (ugly as hell)

[faint sequoia]

Burn-in is more of OLED screen issue

[lethal pivot]

As long as he keeps the brighness at reasonable level it should be an issue

[faint sequoia]

https://github.com/osudroid/osu-droid/issues/148#issuecomment-2690853925

[sour phoenix]

fake 240

[faint sequoia]

While I did mention Aquos specifically, this technique might be used in other cheap devices, potentially those that do not have the option to choose apps that can run at high refresh rate

Be careful

Truthfully, I don't know how frame interpolation is even able to show here, because if you're pushing 240 frames per second on a screen that is supposed to only show 120 frames per second, those interpolated frames are useless

This is becoming DLSS Frame Generation at this point

[sick knot]

its not that deep, its literally just black frame insertion

https://emulation.gametechwiki.com/index.php/Black_frame_insertion

the benefit is that frames stay on screen for a shorter amount of time, and thus they are not persist in human eyes for too long and introduce motion blur

this is what happen when you have a surplus of 240hz panel (sharp is a well known display manufacturer) and dont know what to do with it

obviously the marketing is misleading, but its one of the less outrageous

the panel IS 240hz

the phone can only handle 120fps

which open up a question of whether someone can bypass this limitation and effectively overclock the phone rendering rate

should put this to semi blacklist as well i guess

[faint sequoia]

Haven't heard of anyone doing this tbh, but it is enough to put on semi blacklist

[lethal pivot]

Kekw

Not surprised lmao

[sick knot]

well yea, because sharp made too much igzo panels

they are display manufacturer first, smartphone manufacturer third, or fourth, or fifth

idk the point is that making phone is not their main thing

[torn fulcrum]

haha that's a thing on sony xperia

well on mark ii, could be on newer as well

[worn osprey]

Sharp made one of the coolest devices

It was some Sharp Aquos

https://m.gsmarena.com/sharp_aquos_crystal-6590.php

[sick knot]

kid name lg crystal

now this is class

and glass

[worn osprey]

Ah yes I have seen this on a listing

Did not get it because there was an argument with the seller because he wanted the money instantly this time (ive bought from him before) but I really wish I get it one day though

[eager cloud]

How can you make a phone that bottlenecks itself

We live in a society.

[worn osprey]

if osu was ported to j2me i would want to get this

it should be possible like osu!droid since it is in java but also very hard

[remote veldt]

Use gay7prime wen?

[steady hornet]

Yall think a phone with g99 can run droid on 120 fps

Or atleast 90

[sick knot]

yes

[worn osprey]

Droid can run on 60FPS too

But its not the best experience

[steady hornet]

My limit on 60 fps is like 7 stars

Above that i cant read anything

Unless the ar is low

But i think something above 60 is gonna be good for someone like me

[steady hornet]

Is the redmi note 14 worth it yall or does it ghost touch too

[sick knot]

redmi is mid nowaday but i dont find report of people with ghost touch on it so it should be fine™️ @steady hornet

[sick knot]

brother how is that relevant to the question?

[steady hornet]

Alr then ill jst buy it ig

[sick knot]

🤷‍♂️

you should probably read the main pinned message in this thread

[steady hornet]

Wait where is it

Found it

[sick knot]

this

[steady hornet]

Interesting

I read it all

[sick knot]

obviously we cant recommend a specific phone here since its always a moving target

only recommend against some of it

but feel free to state your budget and we will try to find something

though if you are pressing for having a phone soon™️ the redmi 14 is fine

just.... god its another g99 slop

[steady hornet]

Is it bad or smth

I see alot of hate about it here

[steady hornet]

Also my budget is 274 dollars

I can pay more if the phone is really good so ye

[sick knot]

its fine, but it has been the de facto soc for every "spec-seeker" budget phone

[steady hornet]

If its worth it thatvid

Is

[sick knot]

for like what 3 years?

[steady hornet]

Ohhhhh i see

Ngl all i want is a good 120 hz phone that i can play games on without any issues (ghost touch, etc)

But kinda lost cuz there are alot of phones but have different issues depending on the brand

[sick knot]

on top of my head i can think of iqoo z9, xiaomi mi 10s or galaxy s20 plus

[steady hornet]

Ooooo s20 sounds good

[sick knot]

though the s20 plus is prone to faulty screen

[steady hornet]

LOL

man i got bad luck 😭😭😭🥀

Mi 10s

Idk abt iqoo ngl

I dont think they are even avaliabe in here

[sick knot]

consider iqoo to be "the modern day version of old xiaomi"

[steady hornet]

Ohhhh

So i think ill go with the mi10d

10s

WAIT IT HAS 870

This is huge hold on

[sick knot]

i mean, you can also get the poco f3 for the same chipset

[steady hornet]

Can i get a used one

[sick knot]

but poco is always position itself as "budget" oriented and their build quality leave a lot to be desired

[sick knot]

depends on your market

[steady hornet]

Cuz here they sell it for like 429

[sick knot]

ouch

[steady hornet]

Yeeee im cooked 😭😭😭

[sick knot]

for an f3?

[steady hornet]

Ye

Brand new

[sick knot]

thats the price of an f7

not f3

[steady hornet]

Ye ts country is cooked

😭

But wair

Doesnt the f3 also get ghost toucb issues

Ive heard alot abt it

[sick knot]

the x3 pro have

[steady hornet]

But i seen vids of ppl talking abt it being on the f3 too

[sick knot]

the f3 i dont have anyone telling me if they have such issue

and its a popular choice back when too

[steady hornet]

If the x3 pro didnt have all those issues everyone would be playing on it frfr

[sick knot]

@jolly vapor does your f3 have ghost touch?

[sick knot]

yea let alone frying itself after 2 years

[steady hornet]

😭😭😭

Portable microwave i swear

[jolly vapor]

well now that its cracked yes

otherwise it didnt have

[grave cairn]

poco

[worn osprey]

I am saying any GPU can run droid as long as is as good as 60FPS

It doesnt have to be a specific GPU to run Droid except if the person gets it obviously for other purposes

[sick knot]

but he is asking if the thing can run at 90 or 120

[worn osprey]

Let me comprehend this

Oh

Nvm

[vocal bough]

[worn osprey]

Clean as fuck

[vocal bough]

What is clean ? Xd

[grave cairn]

gor

[torn dune]

hey what is gor

[grave cairn]

god
but i mistyped 'd' with 'r'

[torn dune]

[vocal bough]

[torn dune]

noway

[vocal bough]

Wayno

[torn dune]

ok tshh

[vocal bough]

X3

[sour phoenix]

[worn osprey]

The fon

[eager cloud]

thoughts on poco x7 pro?

[eager cloud]

Why?

Like my budget for a phone is 450$ and that's the only i found with 12/512

I need big space.

And that thing costs 400$~

[sick knot]

the thing is that the poco (particularly the x3 pro) has gain infamy status here

used to be top choice for "cheap stonk phone", it gain notoriety after miui pushing out update that break touch behavior on osu droid

on top of being really poorly built, unable to handle the stonk soc inside it and commit die after 2 years-ish

later x series turns to using mediatek soc so it suffer the dying part less

[eager cloud]

That model im talking about was released this year 2 months ago

[sick knot]

but now considering they are once again pushing for power hungry soc (x6 pro with the 8300u and x7 pro 8400u) and being too new its hard to predict whether that shit will happen again

and obviously there is also miui, now hyperos that can ruin your day in the most random way possible

[eager cloud]

Idk i have xiaomi phones for over 5 years now and i never had any issues

[sick knot]

i would say, you can buy it, but there is a reason for everyone to be wary of buying one,

[eager cloud]

My phones were xiaomi redmi note 9 pro and now what i using xiaomi mi 10t

[sick knot]

@eager cloud if you can torelate miui then sure go ahead

we have not received any bad problem reported from players using the device

[eager cloud]

I can only use miui at this point

I had samsung for 2 weeks and it was pain

[sick knot]

idk, in my experience xiaomi has A LOT of beep with sideloading app

particularly the split apk format

[eager cloud]

For me it's only that this exact model i have, it's so weak that some times when i type too fast my discord might crash randomly

[sick knot]

which samsung?

but yea mid ranger samsung are very underwhelming

[eager cloud]

Im talking about xiaomi mi 10t

[sick knot]

oh

[eager cloud]

My current phone

[sick knot]

tbf that might just be discord

[eager cloud]

For me apk files always worked

[sick knot]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Xiaomi/comments/jyft24/installing_split_apks/

disabling miui optimization to bypass their block in my experience break the phone in very weird and .... interesting way

like this

[eager cloud]

Wtfff crazy

Idk i always installed in single apk's

I never knew split apk's existed til today

[sick knot]

ignorance is bliss i guess, either way if you can torelate miui i dont think x7 has any big issue

though once again im not clairvoyant, cant predict the future

[eager cloud]

Always when there is gonna be a issue with it i can just install fresh pure android on it

[sick knot]

at its price point if you want similar spec your alternative is chinese-only phone anyway

[eager cloud]

Real gg

[sick knot]

oh right.... bootloader unlock

lets just say

you cant unlock bootloader -> you cant change the android version except stock rom upgrade/downgrade

you technically can, but feel free to search "unlock bootloader hyperos 2" and look at the situation

[lethal pivot]

dude i was a samsung user

and migrating to memeos was kinda a pain to get used to

[eager cloud]

im using miui android for so long that anything besides miui is so grrrrrrrrrrrr

[lethal pivot]

xiaomi and their bs own package installer

and thats actually true

need to use third party

antisplit is one of them

[lethal pivot]

move on lmao

[eager cloud]

to what

what phone can give me 12/512 for 400$

grrrr]

[lethal pivot]

if you cool with second hand/used

thers a lot of options

[eager cloud]

i can but idk what to look for

[lethal pivot]

whats your own currency?

[eager cloud]

i just type top best phones (in poland) and that poco x7 pro is the best choice

[lethal pivot]

or is it truly usd?

[eager cloud]

PLN (zł)

my budget is 1800pln

or 470 usd

[lethal pivot]

samsung s22?

oneplus 9? (actually sd888 so be careful lmao)

[eager cloud]

how much gb of storage

[lethal pivot]

xiaomi 12?

[grave cairn]

[lethal pivot]

brother

[eager cloud]

minimum 256

[lethal pivot]

im giving options

your can check it at your own stores or e commerce

it should be around your budget price range too

[eager cloud]

that goes for roughly 900pln there

[lethal pivot]

you said you dont mind used

[eager cloud]

yea but that is as expensive as my phone now

wtf

weren't that was a flag ship or sum

[lethal pivot]

i gave some new and exflagship

[eager cloud]

why those you send are so cheap wtf

nothing over 250$

[lethal pivot]

what

[eager cloud]

why bro gave me xiaomi phone when poco is xiaomi

[eager cloud]

yea

[lethal pivot]

im giving options

[eager cloud]

i just checked my phone model on used market

it's 100$ 🥀

o

dang

[lethal pivot]

something sdomething allegro

[eager cloud]

yea

i have account there for over 8 years

i buy there always

[lethal pivot]

theres a lot of options for that price range lmao

its just up to you

ive used funtouch os to "stock" android 10 to smasnug one ui 5 to hyperos 2

[eager cloud]

it's up to research

i want to have the best thing i can find for my money

[lethal pivot]

primarly for osu?

[eager cloud]

overall use

but for osu! too

[lethal pivot]

then smasnug s22/s23 is your best friend ig

[eager cloud]

is there a big diff between s22/s23?

[lethal pivot]

the chipset

[eager cloud]

how big is the difference

[lethal pivot]

https://www.samsung.com/my/explore/brand/samsung-galaxy-s23-vs-s22/

https://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=11253&idPhone2=12082#diff-

[eager cloud]

i found S24 Ultra fore 300$ but there is a throw back

it doesn't have it's back

and camera

basically

but works

[lethal pivot]

im guessing you wanted to buy a new phone for a daily driver

whats the use without the camera lmao

[eager cloud]

yea XD

i think im gonna go with s23 ultra

there are some listings that are under 2k pln

if i get lucky and a little negociate i can have really good phone

wtf i can buy the camera just like that for 30 bucks?

[untold heath]

lol

[coral sandal]

I use the a galaxy j2 core,galaxy A03S and a galaxy A14

[coral sandal]

But the j2 core its a sh¡t

[hot jolt]

would the xiaomi redmi turbo 3 (poco f6 counterpart) be worth buying?

despite it's flagship-level chip, i pretty much expect it to run well on overmapped beatmaps

[formal root]

Xiaomi Redmi Turbo 3 specifications: https://m.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_redmi_turbo_3-ampp-12920.php

[clear lynx]

I was wondering iphone casually using nvme as their storage right? And mostly android using ufs as their storage.. so which give more benefits?

Maybe it's out the topic but I'm just wondering

[sick knot]

you can just search google for iphone vs android storage performance

but in general current apple flash storage offer better random i/o and comparable sequential i/o to ufs 4

[formal root]

Already mentioned that

Per DM

[sick knot]

moment

[clear lynx]

yeah already explained

[lethal pivot]

hello

@hot jolt points still stand

aisde the hyperos 2 shinenigans

[hot jolt]

cool

im buying to get one though

if i have enough money

[lethal pivot]

crazy like xnor xnor xnor still wont run

game limitations etc etc

[hot jolt]

ah

but at least the overmapped empress map wouldn't lag for sure

[faint sequoia]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1rhWQeKg6dm0ZInvt5bkkHz9uv16DUsPAdqF8Kp2zWeQ/edit?gid=245896687#gid=245896687

This is from the last 12 months, and I see some new phones

But they're mostly subpar phones that I wouldn't recommend buying, maybe with the exception of the Poco X6 Pro if HyperOS isn't a piece of crap

[sick knot]

as usual im mapping the gibberish model name to marketing name

doing it on excel rn as google doc just freeze

and of course infinix and tecno phones have no data to map

so i need to get a different source

[grave cairn]

damn
xiaomi dominance

[faint sequoia]

Oh the latest data in here only goes up to November 2023

Should I just get the entire data again?

[sick knot]

ehhhh

i mean sure feel free to

[faint sequoia]

I thought there weren't many new things since last year

[sick knot]

but i will probably prioritize the 12 month version in discussion

as this is "current"

[faint sequoia]

It's just "useless" iterations so that manufacturers sell more

So I only grabbed the last 12 months

[sick knot]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/15T0kQJAi5DQfivcw-5zIREswx1X29re0-6_lvvXNe6c/edit?usp=sharing

here is the more readable version

[sour phoenix]

This is probably f5 pro but I'm not sure

[leaden hill]

Surprising number of people on Xiaomi Pad 6

[sick knot]

honestly this is more shocking to me

and also s24 ultra a few doors down

maybe emulator spoofing idk

also yea this is sort by model name

a device can have multiple models

and i didnt consolidate them

[eager cloud]

Im gonna buy s23 ultra in about a month

Is it worth it tho?

For 2000-2300PLN

(convert it to your currency)

Ofc after tax

Because there is no tax when you buy second hand xd

Here

[eager cloud]

gg

[hardy flower]

Me contributer :D

[lethal pivot]

@prime wharf check here lmao

[prime wharf]

hey guys should i swap my poco x3 pro to tecno camon 20s pro 5g lmao

[lethal pivot]

i forgot to tell you on my stream, some chipsets nowadays is just a rebrand btw

[formal root]

MediaTek Dimensity 8020 is a rebranding of MediaTek Dimensity 1100.

[prime wharf]

hmm

is it better than Snapdragon 860 tho

[formal root]

Higher CPU, better performance

[prime wharf]

so should i swap out my poco x3 pro with the tecno camon 20s pro 5g

[formal root]

👍

[prime wharf]

aight

[formal root]

❗ | Note here: POCO X3 Pro has motherboard issue, but don't use this phone.

[prime wharf]

that's why im trying to swap it out lmao

[formal root]

Okay, my bad.

[lethal pivot]

||this gives me "oh new cpu so its better"||

Might phrase it better

[lethal pivot]

Also i guess so since you already have deadboot issue

Witb your x3 pro

[sick knot]

nope

roughly same perf

for significant perf uplift, please aim for d8100, sd865, sd8g1+ or sd7g2+ or better in the same linage

d8050 should probably be fine as well as they also have a 3GHz A78 prime core

compared to d8020's very miff 4+4 core setup

[grave cairn]

[formal root]

t!wiki ARM Cortex-A78

[pine tartan]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARM_Cortex-A78

ARM Cortex-A78

The ARM Cortex-A78 is a central processing unit implementing the ARMv8.2-A 64-bit instruction set designed by ARM Ltd.'s Austin centre.

Wikipedia - Article Last Updated · Jan 21, 2025, 3:38 PM

[sick knot]

looking at the device you want to buy im assuming you are aiming for 250-ish dollar budget

@formal root is this budget flexible

[formal root]

Probably midrange phone

[sick knot]

like, how much are you willing to pay for the phone

[formal root]

Around 120 to 150 USD

[sick knot]

oh

yikes thats not a lot

https://www.amazon.in/Serenity-Storage-MediaTek-Dimensity-Processor/dp/B0CXHVPLG3?th=1

bro they list this at 20000 rupee (243 dollars) did you got one of this for 150?

[formal root]

Not worth it for me.

[sick knot]

🗿

for 150 your option is very limited if you want to even have an improvement over the poco x3 pro

your best bet is once again (sigh) samsung galaxy s20 used

if you can stand china-market phone

there is the xiaomi mi 10s, redmi k50 used floating around

[formal root]

Those phones are flagship.

[sick knot]

OLD flagship

[formal root]

2021 to 2022 phones

[sick knot]

yep

they would still handedly beat 2025 mid range no problem

especially if said midrange is still using soc on similar level with the unholy helio g99

[formal root]

Even MediaTek Helio G100 (99% almost same specs)

[sick knot]

yep

its not even close

x axis is wattage

[formal root]

Huge difference between Helio G99 and SD865

[sick knot]

y axis is geekbench score

unfortunately, buying anything new at your target budget would be a straight downgrade from the sd860 in poco x3 pro

you would be hard pressed to even found a g99

maybe iqoo z9x?

[formal root]

The budget phone I've found: itel RS4
https://m.gsmarena.com/itel_rs4-ampp-12930.php

But cheaper

[sick knot]

it is still a g99

i didnt say they dont exist in the price bracket

just difficult to find, and even that the g99 is still significantly weaker than the sd855/sd860

it use less wattage i guess

[formal root]

Oh.

[sick knot]

this one have an sd 6 gen 1

which is just barely better than the 855

[formal root]

Much closer between SD Gen 1 and SD855 (AnTuTu Benchmark v10)

[sick knot]

this is pretty much the best you can do buying brand new at this price point

[sick knot]

so PLEASE

do this instead

they float around phone resaler at very good price due to being old and android phone depreciate in value much faster than iphone

my dad is using a mi 10 ultra i got for 200 bucks and is very happy with it

[formal root]

Also, do not buy with secondhand phones.

[grave cairn]

t!wiki snapdragon 8 elite

[pine tartan]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Qualcomm_Snapdragon_systems_on_chips

List of Qualcomm Snapdragon systems on chips

The Qualcomm Snapdragon suite of systems on chips (SoCs) are designed for use in smartphones, tablets, laptops, 2-in-1 PCs, smartwatches, and smartbooks devices.

Wikipedia - Article Last Updated · Apr 19, 2025, 5:54 AM

[sick knot]

please read pinned message on why you SHOULD buy second handed phone

especially if you are on tight budget

[formal root]

Alright!

[sick knot]

as this budget i would not consider midrange

this is very low end

[grave cairn]

2nd flagship > new midrange

rember

[sick knot]

always

[sick knot]

old phone dont have to profit off you

new phone have to

otherwise why they make new phone?

[formal root]

I need to buy a new phone...

[grave cairn]

[sick knot]

PLEASE consider buying old

this is VERY IMPORTANT

and doesnt take 2 braincell to understand why

if you are already poor, why pay for nothing

bad phrasing

but still

we all have to get over the "old phone = bad" phase

tech cycle is so utterly short now people selling off their perfectly functioning phone like 1-2 years after

emphasize on perfectly functioning

[grave cairn]

even 3 months barely used phones are considered 'old'

chinese brand be like

[sick knot]

5000 models per year nothing personal

🗿

[sick knot]

i need to stress this over and over

but buying new at this price is very wasteful

its like... throwing money into fire for no reason

[formal root]

It is consider overpriced phone

[grave cairn]

still valuable af

[sick knot]

not sure what you mean here

[grave cairn]

that's why they called flagship

[sick knot]

price of phone above have fell so much its CHEAPER than your brand new option

wolfram 3300000 vnd to usd

[broken helm]

Wolfram Alpha

Click here for full result

Request for neroyuki

[sick knot]

128 dollars

brick and mortar store BTW

[formal root]

This is example of overpriced phones: https://youtu.be/8FKHpzX3DJ4?si=YmxLMbevPoKBSosS (2 years ago)

[sick knot]

but i recommend none of these device...

[formal root]

Oh

[sick knot]

what am i missing here?

[formal root]

None of them

[sick knot]

those are overpriced mid range yea

again

samsung galaxy s20 (snapdragon edition), mi 10s, redmi k40 (if you can stand chinese miui, but honestly if you used poco you would probably be fine)

[formal root]

If worth it (for me), I'll buy this phone (I'm not sure about that).

[sick knot]

do note that the mi 10s screen is 90Hz, s20 and k40 are all 120Hz

feels like this is a thing i need to say on "what phone to buy for osu!droid" thread

but if you dont care about droid, another option is the lg v60

[formal root]

Yes, 90 Hz (based on specs)

[sick knot]

60Hz screen, but still sd865, very beautiful display, still support sd card and headphone jack, big as fuck, optionally you can buy a dual screen accessory to make it the poor man foldable

[formal root]

[sick knot]

looks like this

also please be extremely wary of what people at phone shop tell you

they have phones to sell you and (most of the time) will try to get you to buy their phone

i dont have one

[worn osprey]

I am wondering if I am the proest in Samsung Galaxy A14

[valid thorn]

i wonder if s20s are still worth buying

[sick knot]

plus variant with snapdragon is still great value for sub 200 bucks range

[valid thorn]

rofl i still remember the exynos/snapdragon dispute

that happened like yesterday

[sick knot]

there is the green stripe on screen problem but fixing it is trivial even with 3rd party repair

[valid thorn]

honestly this makes me feel tempted to buy one that has green stripes on it

[sick knot]

you can try

[valid thorn]

i couldn't get these back in england

[sick knot]

honestly i dont really want to buy stuff just to have to fix it immediately

[valid thorn]

i might get them

they seem to cost like 50$ lol

if they could be fixed properly that'd be amazing

[sick knot]

it might also be too old that the battery is in rough condition as well

but that apply to every second hand phone

so ymmv

[valid thorn]

is this one actually trivial

🤔

[sick knot]

for battery, not really, its already in the backplate being glued together and shit era

but again, apply for most phone

[valid thorn]

i'm actually genuinely asking about the green stripes problem

isn't the fixing is basically to replace the screen itself

[sick knot]

there is also laser-assisted fix

[valid thorn]

because if they are actually fixable with reasonable prices i'd get them immediately lol

but i don't know how viable they are

[sick knot]

at this severity i kinda worry its a different reason

which will require a screen replacement

and it will be a crapshoot on its availability in 3rd party repair as even when this thing is popular its already 4+ years later

and the part supply might as well gone

[valid thorn]

how expensive are lazer treatments specifically tho

[sick knot]

but i mean you can search for the replacement screen for 30-40 bucks anyway

[sick knot]

feel free to search for shop support it and ask for a quota

[valid thorn]

man i actually need someone to do it for me instead lol

[sick knot]

maybe fastcare in hcm

[valid thorn]

language barrier is so real

[valid thorn]

mm okay

i'll try

[sick knot]

again if the screen went this bad it may well be beyond repair

at that point the replacement screen is not even that expensive lol

i would probably bought the s20 plus as my backup device back then and went through the whole crapshoot to tell the story

but that lg v60 (+dual screen) is too good to pass up

[valid thorn]

aight

feel free to get the ball rollin'

[calm torrent]

@sick knot are samsung phones not worth for gaming to buy because of the optimization?

[sick knot]

you can disable gos

[rough minnow]

They're definitely good I think

Almost every good budget phone is good for o!d

[faint sequoia]

Provide a reason why

You can't say "I think ... " without justification and expect people to pick up what you're saying

[worn osprey]

In my case there is lag aftet some plays

[smoky sable]

Got this phone but can't lock 120hz droid

[calm torrent]

did u try brevent

[hardy flower]

https://youtu.be/hJCnhonKRHM?si=i7YooYuAiG03jLK

Turn off MIUI optimization

this does turn off the ability to use split screen tho (which can be turned back on)

[lethal pivot]

turn off miui optimization

and check the refresh rate thing

[vocal bough]

That will break many things

[hardy flower]

I've really only noticed that tho, what else does it do

[lethal pivot]

i mean its way more broken in hyperos 1.0

but in hyperos 2 it aint that broken anymore

[vocal bough]

I can't tell, since that option got removed. When i had a Mi device

[smoky sable]

Nope not working

[smoky sable]

What's that

[rough minnow]

Specs

I've tried to play o!d on multiple phones so I experienced some low end phones playing o!d

They could run it smoothly in peak condition

Mine is low end so but I smashed it a few times (accidentally) but it can play o!d smoothly a year ago now it starts to flicker 💀

[rough minnow]

Becoz of new game content probably

[faint sequoia]

Specifications isn't everything, but sure

[rough minnow]

Yea..

I'm gonna f destroy my phone becoz I cant even get good score out of it anymore 💀

[faint sequoia]

Frankly speaking, 3 GB RAM is more than enough for most beatmaps

Specifications really shouldn't be an issue, but there are specific hardware that is buggy

... like Mali GPUs

[lethal pivot]

Can you show the display options

This

[lethal pivot]

https://www.reddit.com/r/PocoPhones/comments/z8xsfq/dynamic_refresh_rate_issue_on_poco_f4//

might be this

[smoky sable]

Dik

[grave cairn]

pocco

[prime wharf]

iqoo neo10 good?

[sick knot]

good

there is a bit of wrinkle with low touch sampling, but shouldnt affect anything except at extreme tapping speed

[grave cairn]

also check for 5G compatibility

(if you use 5G)

[calm torrent]

is vivo x200 ultra ok

i dont have it, just askin

[sick knot]

this question is too rich for me to answer

though the sd8e run like a firebrick if you really push it

[grave cairn]

imagine x200 ultra for clicking circle games

[sour phoenix]

Imagine buying phone for clicking circle games

[worn sinew]

is iphone 16 pro max ok

i have it, just askin

[sick knot]

[calm torrent]

🕊️

[sour phoenix]

Nokia 3310

[prime wharf]

guys, is samsung a01 core good

[sick knot]

no

[formal root]

No, in terms of performance – see specifications here: https://m.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_a01_core-10314.php

[sick knot]

i dont think it even boot into the game

due to android go strip away storage permission grant

for example this person with a03 core

the problem is confirmed by dev but when they will fix it is tba

even if does boot, this device is just miserable

i mean this will probably equate to 20 dollars, which is extremely dire for a mobile device

like no offense, but you may find something better in a landfill at this range

mayyybeeee a heavily used lg v30?

or a redmi 5 plus, or an used samsung galaxy a7 2018

or you get lucky with a heavily used poco f1 on facebook marketplace

or used xperia ace

i mean, its maybe fun to think about what is possible at this low of a price point but i really will just uh... give up and play 2048 instead

[sick knot]

also just notice this question a week ago

did you somehow lose 300 bucks in the process?

[grave cairn]

bro betting for T1

[sick knot]

bro bet man city win fa cup

😭

[rough minnow]

Is a Samsung S27 Ultra
With Ryzen 9800X 3D and 96gb of RAM
With 128GB of VRAM good for osu!droid and mobile gaming?

Also a Dual 5090 Chip

[prime wharf]

is oppo f11 6/64 good?

[formal root]

Yes.

[untold heath]

damn

three dots for camera

[formal root]

Oh no, that the phone broken now..

[calm torrent]

sd8g3 or sd8g4s?

[sick knot]

same thing

[prime wharf]

Xiaomi Redmi 4

cusrom miui 13

[modest parrot]

For a sec I thought it was blood

[limpid cosmos]

[formal root]

💀

[limpid cosmos]

x3 nfc

this relic mf survive for almost 5 year

[prime wharf]

display stopped working after 6 years lmao

[limpid cosmos]

[formal root]

💀

[sleek forge]

@sick knot js a question, these supposed touch specs are real right? or just for marketing? (device is Redmagic 10S Pro btw)

[formal root]

[grave cairn]

redmagic

[sleek forge]

23 taps per second with proper technique and not just vibro

[formal root]

OMG, that's flagship phone tho

[sick knot]

buy me one and i can verify it for you

jokea aside. hardware feature is only as good as the software (and firmware) support it

with how dubious android touch handling is, im doubtful

[sour phoenix]

giv me

i want to play

||blue archive||

on this

[prime wharf]

galaxy s8 plus with 1 green line

[formal root]

Also, some OnePlus phones may have green line issue

[prime wharf]

yeah, my nord ce had a green line before i swapped it out

[formal root]

👍

[sleek forge]

alr understandable thanks

[ocean bridge]

Whats a good phone to buy in 2025

120hz stare

[ocean bridge]

And also that is durable and does not brick after 5 uses

[sick knot]

what is your budget

[polar mauve]

Just an oppo a16k phone 🐧

[sleek forge]

as per what he said in #filipino , it was ~20k pesos

[sick knot]

middling budget i guess

poco x7 pro is a thing that exists if you can stand hyperos

and present the only performance focus choice that can be competitive with china only options

[sick knot]

i wont even list those options unless they want me to

[ocean bridge]

Has anyone who uses this had no issues bricking then it might be an option ig

[ocean bridge]

Also not sure what you mean by that..

[sleek forge]

hyperOS in general just sucks

I didn't even update my redmi note 13 pro 5g to that

currently I still have miui 14

[sick knot]

their bricking issue really widely exists only on x3 line

tbf, x7 rn is significantly more expensive than x3 back then

so at least they spent some of the cash on build quality and quality control

[prime wharf]

guys recommend good cheap phone

[faint sequoia]

"Cheap" is relative, so state your budget and location

[prime wharf]

uhh

around 7k php (125 usd)

secondhand phones r ok

[limpid cosmos]

pocuck

[prime wharf]

my poco is disintegrating

[sour phoenix]

Actually pocuck good

But not for osu droid

[prime wharf]

multiple lines on screen, random phantom touch, battery drain, 50°c on camera app 😭🙏

[grave cairn]

pocuck

[prime wharf]

is samsung a23 5g good

[sick knot]

125 is a pretty dire price point, you can maybe get an used samsung s20 (look for snapdragon version), used xiaomi mi 10s, used xiaomi k40

venture into big gaming phone facebook trading group (not facebook marketplace), you can get decent stuff (snap 8 gen 1+, dimensity 8100, 9100) if its used and/or have cosmetic wear and tear like a broken glass back (cosmetic only, just add a case lmao)

if you just need a good phone (not for osu droid) im gonna shill my goat the lg v60

bar the 60hz screen, its just a damn good phone

[sick knot]

i mean, i guess you upped your budget from 20 dollars

but at this point i really dont know if you are looking for recommendation in earnest or just want to fuck with us as you keep asking for recommendation/validation in wildly different budget

[sick knot]

also jesus how is that stinker even considered good in 2025

[formal root]

[grave cairn]

buy googl pixel 9 pro xl

[prime wharf]

instructions unclear, i got a samsung a01

[hot jolt]

any redmi turbo 4 pro users

[tiny crescent]

Redmi note 13 4g it cheap, the phone that I use

[sick knot]

run off the mill xiaomi budget phone

you can get an used poco f3 (not x3) for roughly the same price and it will blow a "newer" note 13 out of the orbit

i guess if you can buy it at 70-80 bucks then its fine

[limpid cosmos]

x3

😛

[sick knot]

the qualcomm version of helio g99 and friends

🗿

[sleek forge]

no, it's bad, I have the 13 pro 5g and I lowk regret

cus there's poco f7 now at the same price ffs

early bird price that is

besides that, for droid, especially in long term + certain strains i.e liveplay by screen recording or in a vc, it gets considerably hot, and there's kinda like a limit to the tapping speed I think

[sick knot]

the note 13 4g is much cheaper though

brand new for 180 bucks iirc

but yea its still kinda shit even for its price

[sleek forge]

yeah, my friend has that and well

[sleek forge]

yup

[sick knot]

long gone the day of redmi being competitive performance wise

[sleek forge]

7s gen 2 for like, 16999 (my phone rn)

and poco f7 with 8s gen 4 for 17499

[sick knot]

the s stand for "small"

[sleek forge]

ffs

[sick knot]

[sleek forge]

[sick knot]

🤏

[sleek forge]

hey at least it's still considerable

for someone of my status at least

[distant flint]

hi! is samsung a16 4/128 good for droid?

its 5180 php at shopee rn and im considering it

or should I go with a redmi note 12 8/256?

[lethal pivot]

drop this

[lethal pivot]

get this instead

[distant flint]

bet thanks!

[formal root]

i've used this phone btw but it's delayed after updating software ;w;

[sick knot]

just dont update your phone

[formal root]

xd

ignore those updates

[distant flint]

do custom roms help? as I also noticed people here stating that hyperos is just shittier software

[formal root]

it's hard for me ;w;

it might be bricked your phone

[distant flint]

that’s a valid concertn tbh, as installing custom roms nowadays requires additional steps compared to the old age where you just format your data with twrp and just flash the dang zip file and viola

[formal root]

[sour phoenix]

First impossible quest

Unlock the BOOTLOADER

[sick knot]

i think redmi 12 is only on hyperos 1

actually they might not even get hyperos

so bootloader unlocking shouldnt be that hard

[lethal pivot]

for global and older models yes

[distant flint]

is it really that hard nowadays to unlock the bootloader? I’ve read some forums that hyperos makes unlocking the bootloader impossible

[lethal pivot]

global has ads, bloats and stuff

while on the old models the peformance.. think of it like kinda being held off

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Xiaomi-will-reportedly-end-its-global-bootloader-unlock-program.898104.0.html

some say they only limit 3 devices per year, but afaik thats only on China and not global

and some say they killed it, so theres no way to unlock a bootloader unless you bought a second hand one that already been unlocked before

[distant flint]

dang

ig samsung is the only viable way to go android huh

[lethal pivot]

but hey, for me id take note 12 rather than a16

[distant flint]

i usually play o!d in my s9 but it got ghost touch 🗿

[lethal pivot]

oh wait

oops i misread it as a14 lmao

yeah ditch the note 12

[distant flint]

im considering the a16 bc of its amoled and its samsung so its stable

[lethal pivot]

you should generally avoid snapdragon 4xx and 4 gen X

if the higher refresh rate looks appealing to you

trust me it wont

you will be opening another game support thread instead on trying to get 120hz to work on droid

[distant flint]

i usually avoid higher refresh rate screens as most of my devices are still 60hz xD

ig the only concern i have with the a16 is if 4gbs of ram is still viable to this day

[lethal pivot]

get the 5G model and 6gb variant

[sleek forge]

NO NOT THE CURSED WORD

oh wait I haven't tried to custom rom this one yet

[vocal bough]

BoOtLOaDeR

[worn osprey]

ur fon is brik

kontakt servis

[worn sinew]

just get flagship phone guys its very reliable

trust

[grave cairn]

[prime wharf]

guys

does poco x4 gt still support 144 fps

[sick knot]

i dont think anyone here use x4 gt

[gusty bison]

Buying phone just for osu droid unreap

[torn dune]

only if there is no money...

the second phone is convenient at least

[lethal pivot]

imagine z flip 5 for droid

[untold heath]

are there any poco f7 ultra users?

or poco f7 pro

i see that the first one is snapdragon 8 elite

and the second one is gen 3

price difference between them is massive

like 100k tg

[untold heath]

wait why default version have gen4

[untold heath]

my brother just bought an ultra version for me

phone will arrive on friday

[sick knot]

i think its the sd 8s gen 4

which is pretty much 8 gen 3

[untold heath]

oh it make sense now

[ocean bridge]

Anyways should i get the non pro version for a slightly cheaper price or should i get smth else instead

[worn sinew]

if you already have a phone thats powerful and only want it for droid only then get non pro

u save money

but if u wanna play other games on it too then get pro

the touchscreen performance should be the same

or similar

[ocean bridge]

yeah im getting non pro

im not playing genshin or zzz anyways

the controls are shit anyways

[lofty meteor]

Nokia 3310

[ocean bridge]

so durable it can be used to smash a skull

[marble helm]

Is tecno pova 7 4g good for droid?

[sick knot]

oh look more budget slop

😔

i mean, at least its 120hz and i havent seen anyone complain about touch issue

but this is practically the same god forsaken g99 thats already like 5 years old at this point

[sick knot]

good for moobile legend bang bang or whatever mobile moba you are playing, massive battery with an underpowered soc will at least give you good battery life

but for 150 freedom bucks (the price of that at my place). You can just get an iqoo z9 and get basically double the performance for 15 dollars more

[calm torrent]

[worn sinew]

i recommend iphone 17 pro max

[rugged epoch]

Too much option plus filled with text.. can't believe I'm this lazy

Also pricing is diffrent currency

Hm definitely not funny

Useless thread ngl

@ember prism

[faint sequoia]

Then how about giving yours

nvm they left

[sick knot]

kek

[eager wagon]

So basically hes looking for a phone around 500usd

[lethal pivot]

i literally told him stuff

attitude moment

[eager wagon]

He was just like me smh

[lethal pivot]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[eager wagon]

[lethal pivot]

you had that much money, didnt want to read for suggestion,

[eager wagon]

He's nit much of a reader in general

[lethal pivot]

you buy phones blindly

later you ask "why this X phone had this X issue"

and probably goes "if only i knew"

[sick knot]

imagine expect one answer in the ever-moving market of android phone

🗿

[lethal pivot]

dawg i myself didnt even read stuff but i know when to read if its important

holy

[eager wagon]

"If" he knows the phone market as of now

[eager wagon]

Holy how tf

Sadly he's not tech savvy

🤷

[untold heath]

what

[ember prism]

Opinions on Poco f7?

[sick knot]

good gaming focus phone if
a. you can withstand the dumpster fire that is hyperos
b. you dont want to deal with chinese-only phone and their caveat
c. not looking for top tier perf for windows game emu (yes it is now a valid gaming category)
d. really if your "gaming" need is gacha or whatever big on play store (that will be "optimized" by hyperos, this exclude osu!droid)

for 500 freedom bucks its okay

[ember prism]

What's point b? And for droid is it okay?

I know the hyperos thing, my friend has an x6 pro which apparently shuts down the phone one time on its own lol

[sick knot]

here is a phone for point b.
https://www.gsmarena.com/oneplus_ace_6_5g-14259.php

basically significantly spec for significantly cheaper than poco f7

there are like.. half a dozen other phones in this category

[lethal pivot]

ditch the poco

[sour phoenix]

hyper os sucks

[untold heath]

it's ok if you are not going to update to hyperos3

hyperos sucks in general

and updating it will make it even worse

[sour phoenix]

wtf specs 165hz insane

[eager wagon]

it's gonna like happen to asorik's phone

wtf

[sour phoenix]

and now he use my redmi 10a

[eager wagon]

rip L

[sour phoenix]

but

[untold heath]

8s gen 4 is kinda good tho

[sour phoenix]

he will be back soon

[untold heath]

if we don't count lack of drivers

[eager wagon]

[sour phoenix]

because rog phone 10 announce soon

[untold heath]

in terms of power it's same as 8 gen3 but it's adreno 800 series instead of 700

[eager wagon]

he's gonna buy another rog phone

holy what a madlad of him

[untold heath]

which is may be bad if you want to play pc games right now

it's just better to get elite

[eager wagon]

not optimized i think for newer chipset

[untold heath]

and wait for drivers

[untold heath]

or maybe gen 5 lmao

since it's also adreno 800 series it will get the drivers at the same time

[untold heath]

everything starting from adreno 800 series is unstable for pc gaming

[sour phoenix]

[untold heath]

you will get high fps (if games are gonna launch lmao) but due to lack of drivers you are going to see glitches

i was thinking of getting poco x7 pro but i saw it's using dimensity

[brittle galleon]

f6 user here

hyperos for poco sucks major capital A Ass
poco has become a brand you buy if you're okay with dealing with its crappy OS or if you're willing to unlock the bootloader and try something else

cool spec crap os

[sick knot]

not better than 8 elite that for sure

[untold heath]

yeah

[sick knot]

rog kinda mid now

[eager wagon]

samsungg

[sick knot]

there is only red magic that make gaming phone

😔

[eager wagon]

is redmagic from cn company?

[sour phoenix]

ye

[untold heath]

they are kinda entering pc emulation market

i see a lot of videos that are sponsored by them

[sick knot]

yea its zte nubia red magic line

[sour phoenix]

-2x price then rog

[sick knot]

bruh

[sour phoenix]

i think buy this for fun. because in 2026 price will increase

[untold heath]

bro have too much money

rich

[sour phoenix]

my soul so poor

[eager wagon]

bawatahell

[prime wharf]

what is wrong with samsung s8+

[sick knot]

touch issue so bad it became a meme in droid community

[prime wharf]

lmfao

my redmi just broke and now im left with my mp3 player (samsung s8+)

[prime wharf]

is redmi k30 pro good

oh nvm

it's the same as poco f2 pro lmfao

[lethal pivot]

chinese variant

chinese verison generally better if you want to go wih poco

[prime wharf]

poco f2 pro was actually goated tbh

i had one few months ago

didnt have any issue

thermals are good

aaaand

it got stolen

[sick knot]

it is what it is

good for 100 buck-ish

[prime wharf]

good for drawing, listening to music, and 30 mins osu!droid session

[real spindle]

Is there any phone around the $200 new range that is decent and also can have the bootloader unlocked somewhat easily

[brittle galleon]

the poco f5 and f6 have good prices nowadays

both have good custom rom community if you're into that

[untold heath]

i love how this whole thread is just about buying a poco

it just too good in terms of perfomance/money

[brittle galleon]

true

if only the stock os was good....,,,,,,

[sick knot]

if not counting those at least

everyone scare shitless the moment they heard the word "used"

and chinese domestic phone availability is too unpredictable

and have their own annoyance

its a safe choice

[real spindle]

is the poco x7 pro worth it over the f6 if I don't play any performance intensive games

[sick knot]

i believe the f series always built better, and buying newer poco subject you to even more hyperos bullshit

so i would say get the f6

[real spindle]

ok

the only thing I'm concerned about is that the f6 is only ip64 rated instead of ip68/69

but if the overall build quality is better then ill get the f6

[brittle galleon]

my f6 creaks when I squeeze the corners of the back

maybe it's just mine, haven't heard that from other f6/rt3 owners

[sick knot]

i mean, im not you, but i would be more concerned with the durability of the glass front here

the gorilla glass victus front give the f6 more protection against scratch and drop to hard surface

its not like im gonna throw the phone into a tub of water to test its water resistance, the 4 rating should be enough to be used under rainfall already

so

🤷‍♂️

also a bit err on the x7 pro fake leather back

though i believe the x7 pro dimensity soc should have better effeciency and thus less need of cooling

[real spindle]

bro this decision is so hard to make

about the stronger glass front, my current phone has weaker glass than even the x7 pro and I don't have any major problems with scratches (only a few noticeable ones after 4 years of use without a screen protector)

also the x7 pro has a bigger battery

atp I'm just gonna buy whatevers cheaper and stop overthinking it

[lethal pivot]

you should worry less about the outer hardware sometimes tbh

the only thing you need to watch is its ip rating, panel used and battery on hardware

thats me atleast

[sick knot]

i mean those are exactly what discussed above lmao

tbh, i personally would pick f6 purely based on the fact that it has s8sg3 instead of lol dimensity

but he did say he doesnt game much

so be it

[real spindle]

the only concern I have about dimensity is that it's worse for custom roms/kernels

so for me it's just more battery life and slightly longer support vs that

[eager wagon]

Yes

Also do more research and watch tech reviews for better understanding

[eager wagon]

I mean samsung with their exynos chispet

[eager cloud]

What phone for up to 3000PLN? (830USD~)

Also did anyone ever checked if samsung z fold 6 and 7 are good for osu! Droid when unfolded?

Kinda looking forward for one of those two in the long future

Unless z fold 7 will be under 1500$ here

[sick knot]

foldable in general is highly not recommended

due to the fact that playing the game put a lot of stress on the panel, especially the creases

and even if the price seem attractive, this is pretty much offset by the absurdly high screen replacement fee

[eager wagon]

@sick knot is 8+256gb good enough?

[lethal pivot]

8gb nowadays?

[eager wagon]

It's an example

Asking for a friemd

I mean I've a 12+256gb b4

[faint sequoia]

For what

[eager wagon]

daily driver

Plus sum games

[sick knot]

amount seems fine, but doesnt say much about its usability

just say what phone is it

for all i know it could be a shitty samsung a-series or worse, those budget phone with "extended" ram and its actually 4+4gb of ram which is technically 8gb of ram but its just miserable

[eager wagon]

A53 5g samsung

[sick knot]

i knew it