What phone to buy for osu!droid?

[smoky sable]

Mf

Wait

[jolly vapor]

I don't doubt you, but I have to see with my own eyes

[sick knot]

how does used iphone have 100% battery health

[jolly vapor]

prob replaced

[worn sinew]

yellow battery is battery saver

in iphonne

[jolly vapor]

yeah

[sick knot]

okay

[jolly vapor]

but yeah usually used iphone batteries at at like

[sick knot]

im not iphone user, thats on me

[jolly vapor]

79-90%

here in hungary that price range gets u like

[worn sinew]

it can be faked

[jolly vapor]

an 83-85% battery

not more

Compromises

[lethal pivot]

dont ya forgor reprogram thing exist

[sick knot]

told ya i dont use iphone

[jolly vapor]

Doesn't that need

[sick knot]

💀

[jolly vapor]

Jailbreak

or smth

[lethal pivot]

no legit

[faint sequoia]

getting out of topic are we?

[lethal pivot]

true

[worn sinew]

nope

[sick knot]

kinda heated, but the more one know, thread is 1000+ messages already

[jolly vapor]

we got invested

[sick knot]

just read pinned for info

[lethal pivot]

wolfram 1100 myr to idr

[jolly vapor]

[broken helm]

Wolfram Alpha

Click here for full result

Request for starstsu

[faint sequoia]

doesn't mean you should sway away from topic

[lethal pivot]

why the fuck idr

man

oh

nvm im blind

[sick knot]

bruh

[lethal pivot]

235 for base s21

[jolly vapor]

not bad I think

[lethal pivot]

fucking dropped pretty hard wtf

[sick knot]

sd888 though

💀

[jolly vapor]

man

memory leak

[lethal pivot]

ima check how much they selling s22/s23

[faint sequoia]

memory leak...?

[sick knot]

i think waiting for old s23 should be the way to go in the future

[lethal pivot]

maybe im just gonna wait

[smoky sable]

Replaced by owner

[sick knot]

since the base s23 is actually one of the cheaper sd 8 gen 2 device out there

[lethal pivot]

wolfram 2289 myr to idr

[broken helm]

Wolfram Alpha

Click here for full result

Request for starstsu

[lethal pivot]

not fucking idr bruh

490 bucks e

[jolly vapor]

this looksW

[lethal pivot]

how much the retail price

[smoky sable]

Last one since I don't want someone to be petty

[jolly vapor]

way too sketchy

Lol

[worn sinew]

yep

[jolly vapor]

dayum

[lethal pivot]

i bought my s20 from that e-store

[jolly vapor]

you hit the jackpot

with that battery

Now sell the phone

[lethal pivot]

jsut becareful ig

[jolly vapor]

to flip money

[lethal pivot]

dont drop it

[jolly vapor]

🔥

[lethal pivot]

or youll cry

[jolly vapor]

infinite money glitch

[lethal pivot]

[jolly vapor]

[sick knot]

disclaimer: this is not investment advise

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/669171763602653205.gif?size=48&name=SweetDolly300bpm&quality=lossless

[jolly vapor]

[smoky sable]

Yes thank you for the advice

🤓

[sick knot]

considering iphone on average only lose 50-ish percent of its value after 4 years you really got a steal on that

compare to android... 80%

though using old android is kinda a miserable experience anyway

[lethal pivot]

wheres the device list by lifetime

im wondering if theres any lg users tbh

[lethal pivot]

discord being weird

i cant search for it

[sick knot]

i pinned it

[lethal pivot]

ty

[sick knot]

if you are cant open the spreadsheet

here is the condensed view for all LG devices

[lethal pivot]

thats fucking low wtf

[sick knot]

actually not all since there are some oem shit happen but that should be most of it

[sick knot]

LG never went above 60Hz

so their new model is just not there

[lethal pivot]

ic

[sick knot]

V60, G8 and G8X

💀

[lethal pivot]

lg velvet is 120hz tho

and i think thats only it

[sick knot]

wait really?

@lethal pivot bro?

[lethal pivot]

wait wtf

[sick knot]

like

i distinctively remember the last gen of lg (velvet, g8, v60, wing) never goes above 60

[lethal pivot]

ok i got scammed then

☠️

[sick knot]

also LG with their commitment

even after they imploded

o7

[worn sinew]

where lg wings

[sick knot]

whooping 6 users

[worn sinew]

zamn

black shark 4?

how many

@worn sinew

[sick knot]

@worn sinew quite a lot actually

[worn sinew]

wtf

and here we have like what

5 known people in the server whos using a bs4

💀💀

[sick knot]

also the other 2 variant

[worn sinew]

the other 167 bs4 users:

[sick knot]

btw, for context

[worn sinew]

for osy droid only right

damn

[zinc lynx]

welp something happened

i tried droid again with gos disabled with adb

fps and delay gets fucked up

and then i tried to use netguard again

back to normal

lol

[lethal pivot]

just disable all game booster related

[slate talon]

game "booster"

[lethal pivot]

@zinc lynx

[zinc lynx]

mane

in droid it did say 90fps

BUT

[lethal pivot]

those are the package name

[zinc lynx]

with 60hz delay

[lethal pivot]

can you like

show to us the gpuwatch

if you can use it

@zinc lynx enable this in dev option

If you have it that is

[faint sequoia]

is this about buying a phone anymore

[lethal pivot]

[faint sequoia]

I think if you have to do this crazy workaround to get the phone working for the game, it's obviously not a go-to, and that should be it for the post really

[zinc lynx]

wait wtf delay went normal again

[lethal pivot]

[zinc lynx]

maybe its my phone issue

lemme

oh nvm

it only does it in droid for some reason

i tried doing the same thing on other games but

it's normal

[faint sequoia]

what are you trying to do here? minimize input delay?

[zinc lynx]

yes because the delay wasn't that bad

i tried on debug ver aswell

but on debug it's normal

ok my bad it is my phone issue

mb

[faint sequoia]

droid is not really a good game to test on

due to inputs being propagated to a different thread than the UI

so you will get more delay compared to other games

[zinc lynx]

ik but in the last couple of months its not as bad as rn

but oh well ill fix my phone sometime

[faint sequoia]

you can try this (#1178222257718444104 message) build where everything has been moved to the input thread, but hit judgement is still done in the update thread (done per game frame)

[worn sinew]

this build can be used to test input delay?

is it effective?

if yes then i think this build should be pinned here for people who might want to test their input delay using their new phone or smth

[faint sequoia]

no, it is a "candidate release" of 1.7.2

which does have that change

[worn sinew]

oh

[leaden hill]

I'm going to preach for the BS4 gang

Despite my Black Shark 4 dying on me, if you take care of it or even get local warranty, it's currently still the best price to touch performance phone out there (second hand since the phone is so old now)

144hz refresh + 720hz touch sampling

used listings can be found for as little as ~220 USD in my local online flea market (https://carousell.app.link/WL7jZDbUECb)

[sick knot]

at this bracket it will at least have to compete with rog phone 3 and red magic 5s

[leaden hill]

I have a Redmagic 5S

(thanks Snuce)

the one great thing it does have is it's software for blocking the status bar is great

but it has a dealbreaker for a desk player like me

it's entire back glass is curved, and it suffers from severe wobbling issues

and from my research, I could only find a single case for the phone that somewhat mitigates the issue, but still unstable

[sick knot]

seem like something a silicon case can solve pretty easily

[leaden hill]

no

nonononon

you'd be dead wrong

it's not a camera bump where it can be easily compensated for

imagine a name card/business card

squish the long edges together

the card's middble flexes up

that's the shape of the back glass

and 99% of the cases I can find are also curved themselves

[sick knot]

i mean i have a curved back phone before (the zenfone 2) and its official case hug the back of the phone and have a flat surface instead

so i dont really know how bad the situation is

[leaden hill]

the main issues still is, the phone just does not want to sit stably on a table

[sick knot]

well it does looks like they value the ergonormic when holding phone in 2 hand for e sport title over desk stability

ditto

[leaden hill]

without some modding, like blu-tack at the back of the phone, unless you're a lap player, i don't recommend Redmagic 5S

ROG phone 3 though I have no idea

never seen it nor used it before

ROG phone 1 was pretty good though, especially for its aspect ratio

[sick knot]

iirc the rog 2 have some severe qc issue

where the backplate just pops right off due to the battery going pillow route

not sure if rog phone 3 fix it

its actually not that popular compared to the rog phone 5 and 1

and yes there are 90 users playing droid on asus chromebook dont think about it

[leaden hill]

wtf?????

emulator gaming

[sick knot]

chromebook can run android app

with a bit of workaround the chrome os

iirc later on google just say "fuck it" and allow actual android app installation anyway

also i would like to know which brave soul bought the sharp aquos zero 2

apparently 11 if you take the number with a grain of salt since its trivial to spoof device info

[leaden hill]

oh that

I guess it's not the same phone?

ok fun fact, I bought Tetterei a phone

I was talking to him about whether I should go with the ROG phone 1 or the Sharp Aquos R2 Compact

because he wanted a phone less than 6 inches and high refresh

ended up buying the ROG phone 1 for him, which is why I have experience with the phone

not many compact, 16:9 high refresh phones exist out there

[sick knot]

oh thats the r2

technically the cheapest phone with 120Hz

[leaden hill]

||force droid to run in 16:9 mode as a feature when?||

[sick knot]

pretty sure its in sub-100 dollars range now

[leaden hill]

droid felt better on old phone aspect ratios

[sick knot]

the zero 2 is the only phone on the market (or at least according to gsmarena) come with a 240Hz screen

the problem is that its sucks at everything else

[fair delta]

Hi

Can i ask poco m5

Is any good than the specs

Or any screen issue

[lethal pivot]

Deadboot issue is common on that phone I think

And some motherboard issue

[valid thorn]

don't buy m5

my friend has m5 and it didn't last long enough

[fair delta]

Hmm how it did't last long what the issue?

[valid thorn]

.

[fair delta]

Ouh

[sick knot]

m5 is just a cheaply made phone with unremarkable spec but with all the qc mishap poco has been known for

[fair delta]

O:

[sick knot]

if possible please consider buying new old stock flagship or used flagship

[fair delta]

And how about the screen specly for osu droid and is it good to buy stock flapship for osu

[sick knot]

if you are asking the m5 i assume your budget is around 150 dollars

@fair delta i would also want to ask what country are you from

[fair delta]

Malay

Sorry for bad eng

[sick knot]

dont worry i've seen worse

at least i dont have a stroke reading the message

at your price point the "safe" bet would be a sony xperia v ii for the best spec and screen refresh rate

you can check the pinned msg for online seller that sell the device

admitedly this budget is pretty tight

[fair delta]

Ouh thanks

[lethal pivot]

Xperia 5 mk ii is your best choice for that budget

[sick knot]

still there are the concern of green line on screen, so try not to overheat the phone by sayyy... charging and using the phone at the same time

its really just early 120hz panel issue in general

[faint sequoia]

I believe all Huawei phones running HarmonyOS or EMUI should also be restricted

if I recall correctly, those devices do not report that they support multitouch

so the game will not enable multitouch support for them

there is no workaround to this (other than flashing another OS, of course), because all supersets of multitouch reports check if the subsets are fulfilled first

[sick knot]

wtf?

[lethal pivot]

Really?

[faint sequoia]

yes

[sick knot]

@faint sequoia can you link some reports for confirmation?

[faint sequoia]

search for "multitouch is not supported" across this server

perhaps it is not restricted to just HarmonyOS or EMUI

Magic UI is also affected

there are also other occurrences in the dev server

check the huawei channel

there was also an issue opened in the game's repository https://github.com/osudroid/osu-droid/issues/104

again, this is more of an issue with the OS, but if you have to flash another OS to fix the problem, I might as well consider it not worth getting

multitouch should very well be supported since Android 2

so this is a very weird tangent

[lethal pivot]

There's also one reporting this issue on the Droid subreddit

Ig semi-blacklist? Because you say it can be avoided if you replace the rom

[faint sequoia]

can you link the reddit post?

[faint sequoia]

having to replace the ROM is already a red flag for me

you should not need to go that far

[lethal pivot]

https://www.reddit.com/r/osudroid/comments/zx3yz4/how_to_fix_your_device_is_not_supported_by_multi/

[faint sequoia]

also I'm not entirely sure if it's actually fixable by replacing the ROM

I have not seen anyone tried to do it

that adds weight onto my red flag

[lethal pivot]

Hm

[sick knot]

this is certainly strange

is the multi touch capability flag is somehow deprecated on newer android version?

[faint sequoia]

No

From the game-side I considered to remove the check for that flag, but it's quite deep into the game engine and I'm afraid it will have other side effects

[arctic birch]

For osu!droid?

[smoky sable]

Me when doesn't read the context

Don't show your iq -3 at here

Not to mention it is old msg

Poor you

[faint sequoia]

Calm down

No need to be passive aggressive

[arctic birch]

That's a joke, no need to say these things, that's okay

[jolly vapor]

(it felt like that wasn't a joke)

(I mean the guy going aggro on you)

[crude raft]

High hz phone, IPS or OLED

I think

Storage like 64/128

Stupidly think

[lethal pivot]

Get oled panel if you can

64 is eh but 128 is minimal for nowadays

[haughty vine]

no I didn't I have used BS4 for 2 years now

because I don't have money for other phone

I don't use this phone for games anymore (I have iPad) so idk it only has some minor issues

[tough sundial]

i was just looking around and then i found this. why is it very cheap?

https://shp.ee/yref9g7

[faint sequoia]

kinda sus bro

[tough sundial]

very much i talked to the seller and they said "because this is an imported item"

no idea honestly

[faint sequoia]

imported items should be more expensive

[tough sundial]

how is it 94% off

[lethal pivot]

It's not.. even if the offer ends its just gonna stays for rm200. the discount itself is fake

[tough sundial]

didn't know that

[lethal pivot]

Thing is.. if it's too good to be true . Then it's probably is

[worn sinew]

oh sht really? i didnt know ur still using it

lack of communication moment

sorry

[smoky sable]

There you go

[worn sinew]

rog phone 7

[untold heath]

scam phone

[tough sundial]

https://shp.ee/q64gswn

what do you guys think?

[sick knot]

@tough sundial mid

the mid of mid

[tough sundial]

but still good right?

[sick knot]

mid

ok look

for basic task, its good

but value proposition wise, its just dime in the dozen "budget" android device

i guess 2-3 years out of this is to be expected, but dont expect it to perform well from the 2nd year onward especially for game

[lethal pivot]

its honor

prayge it comes with google stuff

otherwise you need to install it yourself

[sick knot]

how many run off the mill chinese android garbage you have to make us sip thru man 😔

[worn sinew]

honor

[worn sinew]

there is proxy for google service that comes by default

but its kinda shit

[lethal pivot]

but others google stuff?

[tough sundial]

sori lmao

[worn sinew]

yep

they have all google apps but its kinda shitty to run

[lethal pivot]

if you still care bout refresh rate. that xperia 5 ii but if you dont.. samsung s10/s10e

[sick knot]

major chinese android manufacturer basically slept together and decided to not out do each other since 2021 already

[lethal pivot]

s10 getting pretty cheap anyway

[sick knot]

do not expect any out of the line value from their non flagship devices

[lethal pivot]

but of youre not getting software updates anymore

not like you can also get update if you go with xperia 5 ii

[sick knot]

if you gonna throw me some unknown brand it might still be more interesting 😔

[lethal pivot]

@tough sundial

[sick knot]

s10 is a bit too old tbh

[worn sinew]

yea

[lethal pivot]

the most "budget" exflagship ever

[lethal pivot]

ye

[tough sundial]

2019

[lethal pivot]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

it is what it is

[lethal pivot]

is 855 even good for 2023/2024 now?

[sick knot]

yes, but solely for the gpu and strong community support

[lethal pivot]

hm

well thats rough

[sick knot]

raw efficiency wise its now trailing behind sd 6 gen 1

which is the newest "mid range"

[lethal pivot]

when your chipset being compared to a midrange thats when you gotta upgrade your phone

[worn sinew]

canu check snap dragon 665

[sick knot]

the chart only have 662

[worn sinew]

shit

my phones too shit bro

[sick knot]

well they have similar spec

so uh, here is the chart

💀

vertical is geekbench 5 score

horizontal is wattage

[worn sinew]

my phone is insane

[sick knot]

qualcomm's flagship improvement (ignore the 2 dumpster fire that is 888 and 8 gen 1)

[worn sinew]

krazy

the gap between 8g2 and 8g3 tho

[sick knot]

16W pepega

[worn sinew]

score gap

[smoky sable]

Decent,I used to have honor x7 and it is not that bad

The bad thing is I'm downgrading that time meh

With that price maybe u can buy Samsung Galaxy a05s (idk if there is still have latency issue for droid since my old Samsung has it)

IF you want a new phone

Or with that budget,just buy a used flagship just like Mr star said

[lethal pivot]

Avoid the A series it's just e-waste

[sick knot]

a0x is ehhhhhhh

yea e-waste, too many compromise

god i miss the old a series

[lethal pivot]

Even the new A series performance dosent that good

Fancy camera but performance wise?

[sick knot]

old a series like a5 and a7 looks so good, even better than the s series

[lethal pivot]

Well "dosent that good" sure gonna trigger someone

Let's just say, it can game but at a cost

[sick knot]

now its just scamming poor people by looking like the s series

😭

[lethal pivot]

And targeted to Non tech savvy

[smoky sable]

Bro its snap 680 tho

Actually samsung generous enough

[lethal pivot]

there it is

[smoky sable]

+25w fast charging

[lethal pivot]

700 for sd680

wolfram 700 myr to usd

[broken helm]

Wolfram Alpha

Click here for full result

Request for starstsu

[lethal pivot]

while theres an exflagship just under rm700 or at rm700

¯_(ツ)_/¯

offers much better peformance and feature

eh

beats me

[smoky sable]

I said IF need a new phone

[lethal pivot]

yeah

[lethal pivot]

If hes buying a sd680 phone that costs RM700 ($150), though there's an sd865 for the same price why would he pick the SD680 ?

I'm out

[lethal pivot]

Not 700 .. 800 actually:v

[smoky sable]

New phone

Simple

Don't they are the one who said that they need NEW phone bcs of mom blablabla

[lethal pivot]

down the money

lets just say peformance wise

:v

[smoky sable]

Sometimes idk if this thread title is relevant or not

[lethal pivot]

check the pins ig

[arctic birch]

Nvm let's 1v1 on osu!droid I'll beat you with my fingers 🤌

On ANDROID

[smoky sable]

Are you dumb HAHAHAHAAHHA

[arctic birch]

Let's fight 🥊🥊🥊

[smoky sable]

Lose an argument
1v1

What is the point

Like i said, don't show your low iq behavior here

Thank you

[arctic birch]

I don't need low IQ, I have a brain 🧠

[smoky sable]

Not to mentioned you replying to old msg

[smoky sable]

Sigh

[arctic birch]

[untold heath]

bro chill

it's just a joke

[smoky sable]

Well maybe u don't need an iq,u just need a brain

Since yours is kinda low

[arctic birch]

I have one, hbu 🤡

[smoky sable]

I got both iq and brain

In most simplest sentence for yout brain , im not an idiot

[arctic birch]

Same for me 🙂

[arctic birch]

We know

I think we're in the wrong chat

It's your fault @smoky sable

You started with this

Low IQ for you

[smoky sable]

Dude you started it

[arctic birch]

Just keep going as far as it goes

[smoky sable]

What's the point

3 weeks alr man?

Use your goddamn calendar

[arctic birch]

You: Buy iPhone
Me: Buy an Android phone to play osu!droid
Topic: "What phone to buy for osu!droid"

Meta: osu!droid for iphone doesn't exist, only osu!stream

[smoky sable]

Also me:oot

[arctic birch]

oot

[smoky sable]

Read the goddamn context

OUT OF CONTEXT

[arctic birch]

I didn't read

[smoky sable]

i know , ucan't read

[arctic birch]

But I know what point it's the topic

[smoky sable]

Thats why u follow the path of stupidity

[arctic birch]

[vast ridge]

y'all getting sidetracked

[arctic birch]

day

[vast ridge]

Go argue in dms or something

[vast ridge]

Mods, crush his skull

[faint sequoia]

Please stop

[arctic birch]

Okay sorry

I came back with this conversation

But okay, the good phone may depend on response time, processing, cpu

As the basics, as intermediate, as the advanced

Like as advanced by quality and prices, redmagic, blackshark or something

But there is a point, every phone has its flaws

That's why I understood

[untold heath]

conclusion: buy pcoc x3

[lethal pivot]

I edited my old message but

Sorry for this ... can't you just ask/give a recommendation for phone that suits as daily driver ||(not for droid and what ever oot is)|| in #technology instead of here?

Read the thread title

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[vast ridge]

Still don't know why this thread has been active for months

someone close it or something

[lethal pivot]

It's a thread for people whose searching phone mainly for playing osu!droid

Plus which to avoid

[sick knot]

this act like a mega thread due to the fact that the question is an always moving target

new phone got release, budget is different

[slate talon]

grenade

[vast ridge]

really?

[worn sinew]

yea its bad

[vast ridge]

I have heard people saying some Poco phones die from motherboard,CPU,battery issues

[worn sinew]

yes

[vast ridge]

personal experience?

[worn sinew]

poco is good..... only in its first year of usage

no

i never touched a poco

[slate talon]

what about the new poco f5

[worn sinew]

but gathering informations

[vast ridge]

Redmi note 12 turbo?

[slate talon]

yeah

[vast ridge]

I think it's called that here

yeah one of my classmates has it

[slate talon]

china ver

[vast ridge]

they're basically the same

[lethal pivot]

Time bomb basically

[slate talon]

i know

[worn sinew]

not sure because id probably not touch xiaomi phones in a long time

i lost my trust for them

[slate talon]

this

[worn sinew]

my 500$ went down the drain

[vast ridge]

Which phone?

[worn sinew]

because of the time bomb lol

black shark 4

[lethal pivot]

I heard it has thermal issues

[worn sinew]

its originally under xiaomi franchise

moved out to be an individual company

[slate talon]

hmm

[lethal pivot]

But again I'm not so sure

[worn sinew]

but its shit

[lethal pivot]

But poco and dead mobo is a common thing

[vast ridge]

it's xiaomi what did you expect 💀

[worn sinew]

exactly 1 month (30 days) after the warranty ends

the phone dies

[lethal pivot]

Time bomb

[vast ridge]

Was it brand new or second hand?

[lethal pivot]

[worn sinew]

brand new

[vast ridge]

Ain't no way it only lasted that long

mfs sabotaged your phone

[worn sinew]

dude its only 1 year how is it long

oh wait im stupid

sorry

[vast ridge]

Anyways

[worn sinew]

but yea they sabotaged me

[vast ridge]

I saw a tik tok where Redmi note 12 battery just fucking exploded

like deadass

Lemme sent it

[worn sinew]

ill try out flagship phones to see if it fits my needs and if it does then ill probably just go with flagships forever

[vast ridge]

💀

[slate talon]

reminds me of that one poco x3

[vast ridge]

Poco is just Redmi phone rebranded

Xiaomi probably designs their phone in a way that consumers get a new one or upgraded one every year

My old phone Redmi note 8 battery keeps inflating like 4-5 times

one time it was bootlooping one time the phone smelled like it was butta explode

Both 2019 one and 2021 had that issue so avoid that if you're considering it for some god know what reason 💀

[vast ridge]

I have probably used 200K+(MMK) changing new batteries

[remote veldt]

Redmi note 8 đi a 1🍠6 thôi mà 64gb bộ nhớ trong rồi

[tough sundial]

wait, how come my redmi s2 still survive?

[arctic birch]

The main problem is that the company that manufactures phones launches a new one to put the current phone on its feet, and after a few years of manufacturing the company leaves this phone aside to manufacture another one and doing the same thing

In this case, the Samsung Galaxy S20 FE+

Good phone, with value for money that made the public buy it as it was worth using, Some time ago yes, but now Samsung no longer cares about the Samsung Galaxy S20 FE+ with its usefulness that they stopped to sell the phone

[sick knot]

silicon lottery

they dont intentionally order the phone to blow itself up after 2 years

(cuz lets be real, they will be in big trouble doing so, see applegate)

but they just betting on aggressive release cycle and non-existing quality control in hope that budget user will keep on the buying new phone treadmill

it obviously also depends on how badly you treat your phone, the engineering effort to cram the component inside the chasis with thermal volume to spare

but frankly speaking, its mostly luck-based

[sick knot]

this also extend to the case of plub's blackshark, the series 8 snapdragon has always been a hungry beast, pair with a high refresh rate screen and its a challenge to make the phone work under stressing condition, xiaomi clearly cut corner on the engineering front to low ball their price

so it again, up to luck whether how long it can survive, especially under highly demanding use case like gaming

and as long as most of the phone live pass the warranty, they dont care

[sick knot]

also

https://m.gsmarena.com/motorola_moto_g53-12028.php

can we go lower for 120Hz

[lethal pivot]

I still stand with my prophecy.. and I'm not surprised

[sick knot]

this is dangerously close to sub-100 even brand new

[spiral crypt]

i have poco x3 pro

(bomb)

[lethal pivot]

AINT NO FUCKING WAY BOYE .. AINT NO WAY BOYE WTF

wolfram 1250 myr to usd

[broken helm]

Wolfram Alpha

Click here for full result

Request for starstsu

[lethal pivot]

Oh wait I'm drunk

My bad

G63 oops

Wait ok no

Bro I need sleep

[sick knot]

i saw brand new listing for 100 here

the 4/64 version that is

[lethal pivot]

Rm1,2k ($268) for sd480 wtf

[sick knot]

amazon list it at 168 for 4/128

[lethal pivot]

Oh a 1 year old phone hm

Simple Google as non tech savy

Sums it up really

[sick knot]

i mean, i just say how low can we go for 120hz

could be only used in menu for all i care

[lethal pivot]

Either that or it's limited like aquos R2

Advertised (probably just people assumption) having 120hz but in reality it only go up to 100hz

[sick knot]

we need a lab rat hmmmm

or maybe the G54

slightly better dimensity 7020

[lethal pivot]

Yep people just make assumptions it has 120hz.. the website don't even mention about having 120hz

[vast ridge]

Redmi s2?

[vast ridge]

They probably reduce the device's performance after a year or two. My phone k30 ultra is infamous for having CPU issues,overheating,mobo dead issues for quiet a lot of people. I suppose I won the ' silicon lottery ' since it usually doesn't goes over 47 celcius during heavy gaming

I mean their latest flagship phone has a god damn li-po battery instead of li-ion

a 5000mah li-po is cheap and almost in every mid ranger even low range phones now so I ain't even know why they used 4800mah battery knstead

[sick knot]

lipo key advantage is that they can be shaped into anything

probably do so to save space

[vast ridge]

Long term?

[sick knot]

no, like, the physical shape of the battery

[vast ridge]

I see

[sick knot]

also yes lipo is dirt cheap nowaday

but back then my zenfone 2 lipo battery is a novelty

[vast ridge]

damn when did you use that phone?

[sick knot]

2017

the intel phone

[vast ridge]

holy crap 22 nm, how long did the battery lasted in day to day normal life

[sick knot]

still comfortably full day

5000mAh afterall

[vast ridge]

and here I'm complaining how much power inefficient dimensity 1000+ is

[vast ridge]

5000mah? I thought it said 3000mah

[sick knot]

wait lemme check

but yea its definitely full day

also when you are stepping out of the disaster name sd 810, anything is effecient

though granted, the latest at the time that intel soc release is already sd 820

[vast ridge]

was it a huge diff in SD 810 and 820

[sick knot]

dont remember

not that i care about 820 because there is no way i can buy something brand new with that for 140 bucks in early 2017

that zenfone 2 is one of the last on the clearance bin

honestly, best purchase i have ever made for a phone

still snappy until the day its battery gave up

(around 30 months later)

makes the later purchase of the max pro m1 even more sting

[long stream]

Xiaomi 13T is recommended, gameplay is smooth.

[sick knot]

it is also 500 dollars

[jolly vapor]

[worn sinew]

Samsung Galaxy S23+ is recommended, gameplay is smooth.

[sick knot]

ROG Phone 7 is recommended, gameplay is VERY smooth, tencent gaming version hover around 650-700 bucks

actually it should be 8 in a few days

[lethal pivot]

Xperia 5 ii almost hitting sub rm600 here

[jolly vapor]

I recommend Poco f3, it's good and you can buy it for like 250-300$ used

[leaden hill]

The perfect phone for osudroid exists, but it's the Redmagic 9 Pro

[worn sinew]

hbd eeb

[leaden hill]

So only way for it to be accessible is to wait a few years

[leaden hill]

Bjir

I want this birthday role removed

My birthday was yesterday and it already passed

[worn sinew]

once the redmagic 9 is released, the new perfect osudroid is going to be the redmagic 10

[jolly vapor]

but the price is extreme

will be

[leaden hill]

@jolly vapor that's why I said this

[jolly vapor]

well, you cannot wait a couple of years to start playing droid

[worn sinew]

the price is around the same as the flagships no?

[leaden hill]

That's the problem lol

[jolly vapor]

what if you need it rn.

[leaden hill]

Well, my default recommendation is still the Black Shark 4

[jolly vapor]

I would recommend almost any phone that got a 700-800 series snap, 90-120hz screen, above 60hz sample rate phone

[leaden hill]

huh

60hz sample

[worn sinew]

its good, just for 1 year....

[leaden hill]

You sure about that???

[jolly vapor]

above

[worn sinew]

once the warranty is expired, its gg

[leaden hill]

Lmao just hope you win the hardware lottery

[jolly vapor]

for example:

[leaden hill]

We were probably just unlucky

[jolly vapor]

i would say aim for atleast 120hz sampling rate

[worn sinew]

idk man im chillling with a flagship now

no more gamin phones

(maybe)

i dont really play droid a lot anymore and i wanted a reliable phone so i just bought a flagship

[leaden hill]

The Poco F3 will have to be significantly cheaper than the BS4 to be competitive

[jolly vapor]

how much is the bs4

would guess used

[leaden hill]

200 USD secondhand

Tell me something else that can offer 720hz touch sampling at this price

[jolly vapor]

oh it got 720hz?

damn

whats the catch?

does it explode within a year?

[worn sinew]

it dies in 1 year

yep

[jolly vapor]

guessed so

[leaden hill]

No

Not exactly

Tabby and Luna's BS4 are still working

I think nagisa's BS4 also still works

[jolly vapor]

so is it a

x3 pro

[leaden hill]

Just me and plub who got unlucky

[jolly vapor]

type of deal

[leaden hill]

Basically

[worn sinew]

bad rng....

[jolly vapor]

meh i dont wanna rely on rng

dont want my phone to randomly die

[worn sinew]

good

just avoid it

[jolly vapor]

yeah so the bs4 looks good specs wise and stuff but considering what you said

many people wont risk

[worn sinew]

true i scared them

[jolly vapor]

i bought a phone for for everyday shit lol

like nfc paying

[worn sinew]

[jolly vapor]

video calling

gaming

i dont want it to die on me

by some manufacturing issues

[leaden hill]

Well a Black Shark 5 is going for 340 USD

But I can't recommend it because I've not used it myself

[jolly vapor]

ah

i would've asked if it fixed the last gen issue

[leaden hill]

Reason I won't just do this

Feels irresponsible to me

[jolly vapor]

well, i usually do my research before i buy my phones

like watch 50 review videos, check risks and pros, see if there are better alternatives

[worn sinew]

doesnt most ppl do that?

[jolly vapor]

for 400

[worn sinew]

unless theyre stupid

[jolly vapor]

i wouldnt call them stupid

more like... inexperienced

some people just see the brand and they click buy

then get surprised if the phone blows up

[worn sinew]

then they stupid bro

[jolly vapor]

okay maybe a little bit silly

[worn sinew]

literally 0 research before buying something

[jolly vapor]

the only research people do is which brand not to buy

to be honest you cannot go wrong with an iphone

[worn sinew]

unless they have a lot of money laying around

[jolly vapor]

but in the world of android

you got like 10-20 different big brands

mainly xiaomi, samsung, honor, huawei, oneplus, oppo, redmagic, rog

[jolly vapor]

well, knowing avarage kiddos, they aint got that much

ive seen people walking around with samsung a31's

and a02's

not cause they cant afford good phones

its because its samsung

[worn sinew]

i walk around with 80$ 2nd hand phone too dw

[jolly vapor]

lol

i plan to buy an ip11 used or 8 plus

[worn sinew]

but i have s23+ now

[jolly vapor]

ooo

[worn sinew]

so i xhill

[jolly vapor]

thats expensive but super nice

that will hold on for a long time

idk when my f3 will give up tbh

havent seen much performance loss yet

[worn sinew]

yea i had my eyes on the s23 for quite a long time

but when i actually got to buy it,

[jolly vapor]

i heard the s20 fe isnt bad either

[worn sinew]

the base s23 is out of stock

[jolly vapor]

wow

[worn sinew]

because they dont produce it anymore

[jolly vapor]

so you went with the ultra 🔥

[worn sinew]

because the s23 fe came out

[jolly vapor]

a

[worn sinew]

but yea i just said fuck it and bought the s23+ instead

[jolly vapor]

lol

so true

[worn sinew]

it was a better choice actually

way bigger battery

[jolly vapor]

on topic, i would say the sampling rate and the refresh rate play a big role

for droid players

[worn sinew]

3900 -> 4700

mAh

[jolly vapor]

and the cpu... so it can run stable vsync

[jolly vapor]

yooo?

that actually is not bad

[leaden hill]

w h a t

[jolly vapor]

wdym what

[worn sinew]

[jolly vapor]

vsync, by that i mean run at refresh rate

[worn sinew]

just say run at maximum fps

[leaden hill]

huh

[worn sinew]

bruh

[jolly vapor]

yeah mb

lol

some phones have 120hz but cant pull 120fps

which is crazy

[worn sinew]

x3

pro

ggagagaga

[jolly vapor]

lmao

doesnt that have

860?

that should be enough

until it explodes

[leaden hill]

For some reason my brain is rotting reading this chat

[worn sinew]

hot pocket

we osu droid gaming with an overclocked sd8gen2

[jolly vapor]

still gotta work on how to speak normally, just go away if ya cant hold up

[jolly vapor]

fr

well yeah its just my opinion, try getting a decent cpu phone with 90-120hz screen and 120hz sampling rate

thats like the minimum to play 120hz without issues

[leaden hill]

I might have found something

It's been a long time since I checked with OnePlus

https://www.oneplus.com/sg/nord-3-5g

This seems very promising on paper

It's 1000hz touch sampling for 400 USD

[jolly vapor]

oooo oneplus

I heard that phone is pretty good

[leaden hill]

My default recommendation being the BS4 will probably never change, for 200~250 USD it's unbeatable

But if you're either afraid it's going to explode or you don't like buying secondhand, you better have the money to afford such luxury

In which case the conversation kind of becomes irrelevant, if money is no issues you wouldn't be here

I've used a whole 3 generations worth of OnePlus phones to know that they support their phones well, even though I can't say anything about the Nord 3's actual touch performance because I've never used it myself, I still believe it is trust worthy

The Dimensity 9000 is a legendary chipset and it can pretty much handle anything

It's kinda disappointing really, you almost never see budget phones have very high touch sampling rates and honestly, the OnePlus Nord 3 is so far the only actually affordable (~400 USD) NEW phone with such a high touch sampling rate I've seen

The lowest brand new listing for it I can find is 360 USD, and 345 USD for lightly used, I think that's as good as it gets

Hopefully I get to actually test out the phone hands-on

Additional note: Normally the lack of a headphone jack is an automatic DQ for me, but it's now 2024 and cheap DSP IEMs exist so I don't mind any more

Damn reading a bit more about the phone and it's growing on me, it seems like an excellent all-round phone not only for gaming but for everyday use as well

[leaden hill]

https://m.gsmarena.com/oneplus_nord_3-review-2584p6.php

"No high frame rate gaming"

NEVERMIND

I got hyped up for nothing zzzzzzz

I guess I'll still test it out if I can just to see if it somehow still allows droid to run at 120fps

Feel pretty dumb to include 1000hz touch sampling on a phone that doesn't support high frame rate gaming, what's the point then

[sick knot]

@leaden hill imo oneplus newer model fell into mediocrity just like xiaomi

i wouldnt really wholeheartedly recommend them

[lethal pivot]

Solution = work

[leaden hill]

They did fellouf after the OnePlus 8 but I feel like they've been on a bit of a comeback recently

It gonna be painful to find a demo set in Singapore but I'll still try

[lean vigil]

tecno pova 5 for osu?

[lethal pivot]

It's fine for the price

Reasonable and probably can play droid fine

But if you want that can always go 60fps+* xperia 5 mk 2

But it's a gamble

[hot jolt]

if some people prefer a better huawei phone with faster response, the Huawei Nova 9 would be the match. it would cost like $479.99, with 120hz and 300hz touch sampling rate
ik y'all hate huawei, but it can be possible to install native gms on it

[jolly vapor]

Poco f3 is cheaper and has 360hz touch

[worn sinew]

outdated

[lethal pivot]

🫳

[jolly vapor]

still good af

snap 870

[untold heath]

||everything is better than huawei||

[sick knot]

if possible please specify the country/region for your recommendation

as different market have different selections with different prices due to various reasons

for example in vietnam, you can buy a realme gt 5 for 374 dollars (12/256) and 414 dollars (16/512)

snapdragon 8 gen 2

144hz screen

[lethal pivot]

i mean if its true having 300hz tsr

then may be a good value?

[sick knot]

touch sampling rate is usually double the screen refresh rate already

also realme gt neo 5 5g at 255 dollar (12/256) already have snap 8 gen 1+

and 144hz

[lethal pivot]

damn

cant say much

a lot of sd8gen1 phones now dropping value eh

[sick knot]

cant do much when poco is still demolishing the bracket

[hot jolt]

i forgor that one

[hot jolt]

here's the pricing:
Philippines - $479.99
Indonesia - $384.99
UK - £499.99

[real spindle]

well shit cuz i have a huawei lol

[untold heath]

[real spindle]

me with my huawei p30 pro that has a touch sampling rate 12x my refresh rate lmao

[hot jolt]

wait wgat

[real spindle]

idk if its actually true, but apparently it has "up to" a 720hz touch sampling rate

and input latency is still 100ms

its probably just some marketing stunt tho tbh

[hot jolt]

o

[burnt epoch]

One question, is the Redmi Note 10 pro good for the OsuDroid?

It has the Snapdragon 732g

[sick knot]

what is the asking price?

i mean, it will do the job, but 732g is not that good

and also the dreaded miui

maybe 120 dollars or less

if used, 100 dollars

it IS a 3-year-old mid range

[lethal pivot]

might find or buy redmi note 12

[burnt epoch]

Well, I modified the rom and it works better than with miui because I think it is for 120 or 180 dollars

[sick knot]

if you have the phone i guess you can keep using it

[burnt epoch]

Ok I just checked its price and it is for 270 dollars 😐

[sick knot]

270 is its initial price

3 years ago

[burnt epoch]

Oh ok

[sick knot]

according to phone value depreciation statistic, by now the phone would lost roughly 70% of its value

[burnt epoch]

But I'm thinking about upgrading to a new one. I don't know which one to choose, the Poco F5 Pro or the Poco x6 Pro.

[sick knot]

though for cheaper phone, there is a minimum floor price

[burnt epoch]

Hmm ok and any recommendations with stable 120hz?

[sick knot]

personally i would go with f5 pro

if i have to pick between the 2

but i will assume you are just finding something in the range of those 2 devices (400 ish dollars)

[burnt epoch]

Ok then maybe it fits me for several games, right?

[sick knot]

would like to know what game

like pubg mobile or mobile legend or whatever something like that?

[burnt epoch]

Ok with Call of Duty Mobile and Warzone Mobile only those and also with Minecraft but I don't know if it will be able to support Osu Lazer

[sick knot]

yea uh lazer

i dont think it will fly

the other 3 are pretty easy

[burnt epoch]

Haha I don't think it's still not very well optimized is what I've seen

[sick knot]

anyway for this price range 8 gen 1+ for new old stock and 8 gen 2 for used should be doable

[lethal pivot]

For wzm just wait for it to be fully released

[burnt epoch]

Oh ok entonces estaría bien el Poco f5

[sick knot]

8300U is slightlyyyyyy better than 8 gen 1+

[lethal pivot]

I think sd 865 or above is enough to run that game but the only problem is its still eating a lot of ram

Moving on

[lethal pivot]

Poco f5

[burnt epoch]

Well, AMI, that price seems good to me because I will buy it soon haha

[sick knot]

like, slightlyyyyyy better

[lethal pivot]

I'd pick that if there's no other options left

[sick knot]

but given poco x-line (x3 pro) poor track record

and the "LOL MALI GPU"

yea f5 pro

[burnt epoch]

Oh ok thanks to both of you for helping me decide since I didn't know which one haha

[lethal pivot]

Also

Prayge you didnt get unlucky enough with your unit

Infamous time bomb with poco

🫳

[burnt epoch]

Hmm I hope so and if not then in the future I will change for another hahaha

[sick knot]

otherwise here are candidate i find worthwhile for the price range (vietnamese price)

• realme gt5 (s8g2 doable, its just that from other experience the touch response isnt good despite the 144Hz)
• redmi k70 (s8g2, but not just miui, but chinese miui, ewwwww)
• rog phone 6 (s8g1+, solid performance, "gaming" phone, close to stock android thank god)
• (used) galaxy s23 (its samsung)
• (used) xiaomi 13 pro (much more premium feel than the k series)
  also bonus, the redmi k70 pro for 460 dollars have s8g3 wtf (this one may actually make lazer playable )

[faint sequoia]

no way someone wants to buy an android device to play lazer

[sick knot]

though tbf, that insane price can only be achieve inside china or outside china with some tax evasion manuever

[lethal pivot]

Go smasnug thx

[burnt epoch]

hahaha I see I think there are more and better options but hey and if not then let's wait a little longer haha

[sick knot]

feel free to check the price of these device in your region

and maybe share the price here too

it wont be helpful for long (like, a month max, before those phone receive more price cut ) but hey help is help

[burnt epoch]

Yes haha ​​thanks anyway I will be checking prices and see if I can do what I mentioned

[sick knot]

also if you find currency conversion a bit unwieldy, you can use @broken helm

for example

wolfram 11250000 vnd to usd

[broken helm]

Wolfram Alpha

Click here for full result

Request for neroyuki

[burnt epoch]

Brutal

I see thanks for the help haha

[sick knot]

npnp

[burnt epoch]

Thank you 🙂

[hot jolt]

it can support lazer

and it runs better with a vulkan renderer

[tardy tapir]

Im using a rm note 13

[prime quartz]

Oppo A92 is kinda cuck when playing droid

Already tried

And it shows the cursor stuck when to tap streams

[sick knot]

no gesture enabled on the phone?

[prime quartz]

Nope

[sick knot]

does the cursor getting stuck after an android update? or its already shit out of the box

i will add it to the blacklist

[prime quartz]

These are the specs

And no. It's a used one

My friend's phone actually

[sick knot]

@prime quartz ok

its pretty hard to confirm the issue if the device is used

[prime quartz]

I'll give more prove

After work

[sick knot]

since prior impact is unknown

i will move it to semi-blacklist for now since the spec is pretty underwhelming anyway

[fluid stone]

i think

[sick knot]

wut?

the 888 one?

[fair delta]

Hi everyone has any of youall has use the redmi note 12 or infinix note 30 and has any experience with it to know what phones has the best of using experience

[sick knot]

infinix note 30 is currently in the thread's "blacklist" due to constant input drop complaint from users

meanwhile so far we have not saw the same on the note 12

[fair delta]

How about the perfomance term and snapdragon experience

[sick knot]

so if you only pick between 1 of 2, absolutely the note 12

otherwise we can probably suggest another device

@fair delta what is your budget? and your country you are finding your device?

[fair delta]

Ooo thank so much for suggestion

[fair delta]

145usd

Is any other recomendation

[sick knot]

try to search for sony xperia v mark 2 or pixel 4

[fair delta]

How about for a new devices?

[sick knot]

worthwhile new device at this range can be very hard to find, all the phone manufacture do have to extract profit from you

@fair delta feel free to read pinned message on why we keep recommending used phone buy via online front

i can probably find a better brand new

but it wont be that much better

[fair delta]

Ouh thank so much for the information but if you have any recomendation for a new device it will be better and thank you again for the information you give

[sick knot]

for brand new, maybe the tecno pova 5

if brand new and 120Hz this is pretty much it

the helio g99 is what i can only call "ok"

again, if you go around reputable online store for second hand you can easily find snapdragon 855 or even 865 at this range

which casually curb stomp the g99

well, at least the battery situation is good