What phone to buy for osu!droid?

[faint sequoia]

only 9 users

that is sorted by user count

[lethal pivot]

this actually hurting my brain a bit tbh

[faint sequoia]

I think you're not getting the objective

you are supposed to look at most used devices

not what devices have been used

[lethal pivot]

i get that

:v

im just curious lmao

the amount of x3 pro users

poco really should sponsor this server

[jolly vapor]

903 people use the f3 dang

[sick knot]

im the sole user of my phone

[sick knot]

i added device model to marketing name mapping to the spreadsheet

https://storage.googleapis.com/play_public/supported_devices.html

based on this

though quite a lot is not matching

namely a lot of huawei (and honor), oppo, realme stuff

and motorola, for some reason, so i manually added in mis-matched device for the top 300 devices

slightly better formatted sheet

i have no idea why redmi 10c's manufacturer is "Radger", but it is like that on the sheet

soooooo

[faint sequoia]

the above is lifetime data from when we start tracking

[sick knot]

is this lifetime since any form of analytic is done or when it is on firebase?

[faint sequoia]

when it is on firebase, so starting from 1.6.8-pr3

I think any analytic data behind that has been deleted

[sick knot]

why there are so many galaxy a12

osu!droid device popularity chart

add pivot table to consolidate same device under many sku

[frigid hamlet]

some people are playing on the tv 💀

[vast ridge]

there is barely any difference between 60hz and 90hz

[faint sequoia]

on the level of difficulty you are playing at? you will not notice

[lethal pivot]

Legit used x3 pro price dipped down LMAO @sick knot

I legit thought used x3 pro gonna go like 700-800

[valid thorn]

[valid thorn]

@lethal pivot is sony xperia 1 a good device?

[lethal pivot]

Which xperia

[lethal pivot]

Specific with xperia lmao

We have 1 mk 1 to mk 5

[valid thorn]

tiano is asking

[lethal pivot]

@zinc lynx ?

or am i bugging

[zinc lynx]

yo

yea mk1 lol

[lethal pivot]

blud be asking much for it

forgetting this aint no ios

[lethal pivot]

other than heating issues and volte might not work

nothing ig

\

[zinc lynx]

aight aight

[lethal pivot]

battery is smol

but you can use custom rom

since xperia community is quite big

[zinc lynx]

i found someone that sells it for 57$ lol

[zinc lynx]

has shadow and battery health at 85% tho

[lethal pivot]

wolfram 57 usd to myr

[broken helm]

Wolfram Alpha

Click here for full result

Request for starstsu

[lethal pivot]

i mean

how bad is the screen ? @zinc lynx

[zinc lynx]

only shadows

screen smooth lol

[lethal pivot]

xperia 1 here used grade a+ goes on rm400 on shopee

[zinc lynx]

sheesh

[lethal pivot]

how does one convert more than one currency uysing this bot

[zinc lynx]

LMAO

[lethal pivot]

anjing

wolfram 400 myr to usd

[broken helm]

Wolfram Alpha

Click here for full result

Request for starstsu

[lethal pivot]

and screen burns for 100 less

[lethal pivot]

id say go for it maybe?

but ask nero :B

[zinc lynx]

aint gonna lie I don't give a damn bout the shadow

[lethal pivot]

you need to actually if its really bad

can you ask the seller to show how bad it was?

[sick knot]

defect screen is also a possible sign of aging screen

sure it give shadow now, but i have my doubt whether the screen wont fail completely in a year

[tough sundial]

redmi 13c good right?

my mom told me to buy that

[valid thorn]

ohh

@sick knot I somehow know that phone

legit 90hz

[sick knot]

too new, i cant really make an assesment on that

[tough sundial]

sed

[sick knot]

what version would you buy, 4 or 8gb of ram and for how much?

from the look of the spec it just scream "cheap shit phone with market buzzword checklist"

i mean, its 90hz 720p screen

so i dont think it need to be too powerful to drive osu!droid to 90hz

but otherwise everyday task will be pretty miserable

[sick knot]

to illustrate my point here is what i see from the phone
[ x ] 90Hz screen! (but 720p (on a 6.7inches screen so ditto the dpi) with poor brightness and probably bad color)
[ x ] Octa-core CPU!!! up to 2GHz!!! (aging helio g85 with 2 shit mid core and 6 even shittier e-core)
[ x ] up-to 16GB of RAM!!! (the cheap one only have 4, the more expensive one have 8, the remaining 8 is "extended RAM" which is just fancy word for slow ass emmc swap that will eat away your internal storage lifespan)
[ x ] 50MP camera!!!!! (standard sensor size and poor aperture so its a guaranteed bad at low light, im not holding my breath on whether it can even take decent shot on good lighting condition)
[ x ] up to 1TB of storage!!!! (only if you have sd card, 2 storage config is 128 and 256, i guess its ok for the price though)
[ x ] 5000mAh battery!!! (the standard 5000 lipo slab battery is so cheap literally every cheap phone use it)
[ x ] Headphone jack!!! (err at least this is good)

so yea

seem quite misearable in my opinion

[tough sundial]

8 maybe

[sick knot]

and for how much?

150 bucks?

@tough sundial also we already discussed about phone in that price range

and this should be a much better choice

[tough sundial]

the xperia?

[sick knot]

yea

[tough sundial]

yeah my mom dont like second hand phone

[sick knot]

if you want longevity on a budget instead of making more e-waste, please go with second hand phone

if you want anything other than calling and messaging, budget low tier phone like this is just prime landfill material

[sick knot]

i can see where your mom is coming from

but im pretty sure you know more about tech than your mom

second hand phone is a great choice on a budget

bloody hell i bought my grandpa a poco m3 and he already complaint about how laggy web browsing is

[tough sundial]

im literally using a second hand phone from my grandma lmao

what about realme 7 5g?

is it better than dat xperia or something else?

[worn sinew]

but momma's order are absolute

thats the problem

[sick knot]

try to change that

its 2023

not 2008

[worn sinew]

it works if ur old enough

but by what he said that his mom doesnt like 2nd hand phone so its probably her money

if hes buying it out of his own money then there wouldnt be a problem

[sick knot]

if you want better cpu, gpu, ram, storage speed, camera, screen, wireless audio, wifi connectivity go with the soyn

if you want better battery and slightly louder speaker, then the realme 7

[worn sinew]

true go with the soyn

if its avaliable

[sick knot]

and by i mean, better

the soyn practically stomp over the realme 7 in performance benchmark

[worn sinew]

sad that soyn phones arent avaliable here in th

[tough sundial]

dam i wan soyn

[worn sinew]

whats the budget again

150?

[sick knot]

yea probably around that

he asked about it before

[worn sinew]

zamn even more expensive than my phone

my phone is 80$

poor king 👑 🔥🔥

[tough sundial]

under or around 128

lmao

[sick knot]

also its kinda funny when soyn screen have a true black (literally turn off the led when black) so the contrast ratio is something divided by 0

hence the infinite contrast ratio

[sick knot]

the listing i replied is 130

pretty sure

so yea checks that out

i have said on that listing that it looks good to me, there isnt much to improve on that budget

[tough sundial]

yeah2 130 sorri

i mean is soyn phone is expensive?

[sick knot]

but they usually drop really fast in price

like

really really fast

there are a variety of reasons

[tough sundial]

dats good

is there any new soyn phones that is same like that xperia

[sick knot]

for that price range thats the best you can have

[tough sundial]

dam its second

my mom dont like it

[sick knot]

at least in the xperia line

[worn sinew]

thats android for u

[sick knot]

yea its either sold well and never sold again, or not too well and plummet in price

[sick knot]

again, ultra budget phone is just e-waste

if you buy second hand you contribute to protecting the environment, while just have a plainly better deal

reduce - reuse - recycle

second hand phone is not filled with malware, even if it does, one hard factory restore and it should be gone

[tough sundial]

i guess i have to explain it to her about that

[sick knot]

you have to explain to her that phone company goes after everyone's money

they will try to get the best margin over everyone

[worn sinew]

and with enough inspection its pretty safe to buy

and if ur buying from a marketing site that has protection then its even safwer

[sick knot]

yea, if its so bad, you can just return it in 7 days

no question ask

[worn sinew]

true just dont buy from facebook marketplacer

[sick knot]

e-commnerce platform like shopee provide fairly robust consumer protection

unlike fb marketplace or online flea

[tough sundial]

lmao she said to look for phones in fb

hel nah

[sick knot]

oh god

[tough sundial]

she's a boomer

[sick knot]

tell her that buying from fucking shopee will be safer

no wonder why she scared the shit out of second hand product

[tough sundial]

LMAO

[sick knot]

ma'am you are shopping on facebook

so yea, the argument is:
company need to make profit off their new phone, previous owner don't need to make profit off their old phone
modern e-commerce platform provide decent enough consumer protection that had thing go south (which is really rare since the there are some repercussion to scam seller on these platform). You still have the option to return the thing

docking even more point if you try to buy stuff from brick and mortar store since you are paying for staff salary, marketing and physical store lease and maintainance as well

its not like phone seller get them for free

someone have to pay

and do YOU want to pay for that?

[tough sundial]

lol

[sick knot]

again, its just basic economy

someone have to make money

its your choice on picking which person who dont want as much money from you as possible

[tough sundial]

sharp aqosu bad right?

[sick knot]

check the blacklist

[tough sundial]

yep

[sick knot]

i hope those things can persuade your mom

your mom should at least know how basic bargaining work

so as long as you can explain those point clearly she will understand

you know what i should probably write a "how to persuade your parent to buy you a better phone" playbook and pin it here

@worn sinew your thought?

[tough sundial]

do it

[lethal pivot]

13c

g85

hm

[lethal pivot]

this now idk if you like this but you can go with s20 fe 5g

full box and everything but its still second hand

its just looks like brand new

we out here telling to lies lmao

[tough sundial]

i musta trick my moder

lel

[sick knot]

nah transparency is better

we want to change their perception of used phone

[tough sundial]

good idea too

[lethal pivot]

just tell her youll be cautious ig

bcs that redmi 13c is legit hm

question @tough sundial is it your money or what?

[tough sundial]

moder LMAO

[lethal pivot]

oof

it wouldve been somewhat easier if its was yours

[tough sundial]

definitely

but yea it is what it is

[lethal pivot]

just try and convince her

say like "ram and storage dosent really matters"

[sick knot]

@lethal pivot already told him

[tough sundial]

bruh didnt see that

[lethal pivot]

if she wants it to be used like school work or smth tell her its a no go

because tbh it really doesnt suit it

[jolly vapor]

what's the budget

[lethal pivot]

i mean it works

[sick knot]

bro its a literal wall of text

[lethal pivot]

but only for a few times

[sick knot]

how you miss it

[lethal pivot]

before it broke down

[sick knot]

e-waste inbound

[lethal pivot]

couldnt handle simple tasks , etc

[tough sundial]

idk lmao

[lethal pivot]

||galaxy a series||

[jolly vapor]

so uh

[lethal pivot]

budget isnt da problem here sir

[sick knot]

yea i added all android one device to the blacklist

[jolly vapor]

130$

if ikr

[lethal pivot]

its the old people mindset is the problem here

[tough sundial]

lmao

[jolly vapor]

oml same problem here

they think we don't know better

and then pick the most ewaste ass phone

[tough sundial]

my sister is same like my mother bruh

[jolly vapor]

imo phone or smth

[lethal pivot]

blacklist all android phones ,, port droid to iphone 🔥🔥🔥🔥

[sick knot]

basically we need to persuade that buying used and online doesnt mean the phone will be riddle with malware or porn, or both

[jolly vapor]

yeah

[sick knot]

we just need to be reasonable

[jolly vapor]

it is just

Used

[sick knot]

not even smart

just reasonable

[lethal pivot]

ik what they think of used phone lmao

[jolly vapor]

yeah but some people need so much convincing

[tough sundial]

wat

[lethal pivot]

legit every day im hearing "thats why they selled the phone you bought because it wasnt good" or "that phone probably wont last long enough"

[jolly vapor]

FR

I hear that all day cause I cracked my phone

[lethal pivot]

ive heard every shit ever since i bought my r2

but pick your poison

[tough sundial]

even a great ass grade they dont want that

[jolly vapor]

grade?

[sick knot]

but old phone owner dont need to make a profit

company selling new phone do

no matter how cheap it is

[tough sundial]

the second phone grade

[lethal pivot]

overpriced shit spec device that cant even do simple job , or ex-flagship that will make you go nuts

[sick knot]

do the bloody math for once

[jolly vapor]

ex-flagships are better used or not used

[lethal pivot]

hell i even hear "no one wants to buy it if you sell that phone"

[jolly vapor]

FR

like I put my other phones on for sale

And they sold within a week

[sick knot]

anyway im gonna write a "how to persuade your parent to buy you a better phone" playbook

[jolly vapor]

Well they were mostly parts

but still

[sick knot]

[jolly vapor]

anyways continue nero

[lethal pivot]

legit this is a fucking lifetime deal

[jolly vapor]

FR

[lethal pivot]

less than 200 bucks

i think

i cant do conversion

[jolly vapor]

WHAT

man you gotta flip that

[lethal pivot]

wolfram 640 myr to usd

[jolly vapor]

You have to

[broken helm]

Wolfram Alpha

Click here for full result

Request for starstsu

[jolly vapor]

137?????

[lethal pivot]

140 with shipping probably

[jolly vapor]

NAH

you buy rn

And flip

To 300€

[lethal pivot]

tell that to his parents

[jolly vapor]

I meant you

[lethal pivot]

nah im good

[sick knot]

cant really flip it when they are still selling for that price

[jolly vapor]

fbmp

[sick knot]

thats just scamming

well

depends on your moral compass

[jolly vapor]

it's called flipping

[lethal pivot]

inb4 she tells you what you should buy and the phone broke .. not even by you.. they say it because of you @tough sundial

[jolly vapor]

like in Skyblock

[lethal pivot]

second hand phone you just gotta be real careful

like forget waterproof thats outta the line

[jolly vapor]

yeah I got a used laptop only thing with it is some minor stratches

[lethal pivot]

2 times i bought 2nd handphone. 2 times the back panel actually been reglued together

[jolly vapor]

nah not headphones

[lethal pivot]

hand

[jolly vapor]

so phone

[lethal pivot]

@tough sundial

"original" in box

oh oops thats base s20

@tough sundial there

s20 fe 5g "original in box"

wolfram 800 myr to usd

[broken helm]

Wolfram Alpha

Click here for full result

Request for starstsu

[worn sinew]

yea you should for kids with strict parents

[lethal pivot]

moms gonna create discord acc and bombard this server bcs of this

[tough sundial]

my mom said second hand phone = bad quality

how

[lethal pivot]

probably physically she meant

just say you dont mind about it

all you need is a fast phone

and if she said "but the phone i recommend got more ram" say that wont do it it doesnt matter

[tough sundial]

tbh my phone lcd is cracked

i can see the inside of it

[lethal pivot]

dude my aquos still alive till this day .. its jsut hard to find a good spare part

tbh thats another thing if you want that xperia phone

its kinda hard to find the spare part or the spare part cost half as the original price you bought it for

@tough sundial show her the reviews oif the phone

[tough sundial]

why the hell the phone price is cheap and the spare part is half of it

rare?

[lethal pivot]

like i said

its hard to find the spare part for less known/obscure phone

[lethal pivot]

yes

like this for example

thats why i urge you to get the s20 fe one

[tough sundial]

crispy

[lethal pivot]

its not cheap also.. but atleast its easier to find parts if something broke

i realized this after i my aquos r2 battery broke

[sick knot]

HOW TO PERSUADE YOUR PARENT TO BUY YOU A BETTER PHONE - THE PLAYBOOK

1. Why you may need this

If you are a functioning adult with stable job and disposable income, disregard this post. But if you are, say, a student and your parent will buy you a phone please read on

2. Identifying the budget

If your budget is really low (below 200 USD). Buying a second hand phone online is the way to go
If your budget is okay-ish (200-400 USD). You can consider buying a brand new phone, but second hand is still preferable, but still, online is the way to go
If your budget is good (400-600 USD+). Unless you really know the condition of a second hand device at this price point, consider going brand new. And again, online
If you budget is 600 USD+ damn your parents rich, buy whatever you like, just be aware of the blacklist pinned earlier

3. Why online?

Reputable e-commerce platform like Amazon, AliExpress in the west, Taobao, Alibaba in china, Shopee, Lazada in SEA nowaday have decent customer protection, as long as you follow their standard buying procedure, you can usually return the product within 7 days, no question ask (since there aren't many people do so anyway) and there are many, many way to help you to identify legit sellers from scammers in these platform
Consider the basic in buying anything. If you are buying from a chain brick and mortar store. Your purchase now have to cover the physical store lease and maintainance cost, the staff's salary, the marketing so that people come to the store. These don't come for free. Do YOU want to pay for it? no, right. Then online it is

4. Why second hand?

Old Flagship high-end phone > New budget phone
Consider this: Old phone owner selling their phone to gain back some cash for their upgrade don't need to make a profit off you. Big phone company selling their new phone need to. No matter how cheap the phone is. See the problem?
Nowaday a lot of people want to chase the greatest and latest tech for their phone which they use everyday and will happily sell their old device to regain some cash. That's the reason why a second hand phone is almost certainly not a bad phone.
Additionally buying second hand mean giving an old device a new life by REUSING them, they dont need to be dumped onto a landfill. You REDUCE buying cheap planned obsolete device that will soon become e-waste once their warranty run out. 2 out of 3 R. You are well on your way on protecting the environment

5. How to actually buy your phone

• Use reputable e-commerce platform (Don't just buy shit off facebook marketplace)
• If you have the budget, buy brand new device from official phone online store (there should be many ways to identify them on each platform)
• An in-between option of new and used will be refurbished, these are still certified "new" with full warranty from the manufacturer, but in reality it's already opened so it will be decently cheaper than buying brand new
• If you buy used, notice the review, are they organic, are there clone accounts review multiple times on multiple listing of the store, is the photo seem reasonably shot personally, not rip somewhere online, easier to check if there are videos as well.
• If its too good to be true, its probably isn't (notice that if the phone is only 1 year old, it should not drop more than about 25% of its original value, if its 2 years old, 45%, if its 3 years old, 70%, 4 years old, 80%) if the price fall below that, practice caution (souce )
• FOLLOW THE BUYING PROCEDURE PROPERLY (only confirm that you received the phone when the platform said that the product is delivering to you, i.e the last step of the delivery, feel free to take picture, recording your unboxing, etc. etc.). That way you will make use of the e-commerce platform's customer protection system

[lethal pivot]

if you want this i can show you some of my images

[tough sundial]

yay

[lethal pivot]

thank you nero

i can give some links to online store

[sick knot]

alright added my source on the whole phone value thing

since someone may curious if im pulling it out of my ass or something

[lethal pivot]

my ngiga what

are hyperlinks blocked @sick knot

[sick knot]

what the fuck?

oh

[sick knot]

yea masked link is not allowed if you are not mod

[lethal pivot]

aw

[sick knot]

you can ask @faint sequoia to unblock it

or use an url shortener

if its too long and unwieldy

[lethal pivot]

nah its managable lol

For my fellow Malaysians

I hear your cry .. you dont know where to look for ex-flagship phones but you want one?.. heres some e-store link
||not sure if these stores ships to ID/PH tbh||

• a reputable store that sells Japanese phone (even obscure ones)
  (MY)SG Concept Store - https://shp.ee/vqpm4rt
  SG Concept Store - https://shopee.com.my/sgconceptstore
  KCH Online - https://shopee.com.my/kchonline

• if you want a Samsung phone this store have almost all Samsung device you want
  eSTATION MARKETING - https://shopee.com.my/estation_933 (i bought my S20 FE 5G from here)

• This store mostly sells LG devices.
  Mirai2000 - https://shopee.com.my/mirai2000

fucking previews

[sick knot]

use < > between the link to hide embeded preview

[lethal pivot]

got it

[sick knot]

REGIONAL RECOMMENDATION:
Since obviously I don't know every place that sell phone in the world, here are some regional recommendation from trusted member in the community:

• Malaysia: [This message](#1153255310115487764 message) from @lethal pivot

Note: some info may be outdated like if the shop is deleted or they changed owner, feel free to ping the message author to request an update

[sick knot]

@here (not sure if i can use it), feel free to put your regional recommendation as well

yea not worky

discord the least you can do is letting the thread OP to ping people in the damn thread

[lethal pivot]

[faint sequoia]

no thanks

[faint sequoia]

and this will ping the whole server

[sick knot]

wait really, i thought i only ping everyone "here"

in the thread

eh, probably got mixed up with slack's @channel

[faint sequoia]

no

[sick knot]

bro my mediocre big youtube review channel just posted a review of this 3h ago btw

they tried so hard to shill it but have to acknowledgement how bad it is

the whole video is "well this is kinda bad but you cant expect much from 130 dollar device" cope

[worn sinew]

@vale mirage

[vale mirage]

😮 🤔

[sick knot]

btw feel free to ask what phone you should buy here

[lethal pivot]

every "budget" phones nowadays is just e-wasted baked with 90hz display

[sick knot]

there is no definitive answer cuz budget and the answer also shift with time

[lethal pivot]

theres rarely a good budget phones

[sick knot]

pinned message only have general guideline and what to avoid buying

[worn sinew]

what phone should i buy guys

10$ budget

zamn i can get nokia 3310 with that budget

[sick knot]

buy an eye-mask for 5 dollars, have a good night sleep and you may have a dream that you bought a good phone

[worn sinew]

what about the other 5

[sick knot]

idk, a corndog maybe

[worn sinew]

[sick knot]

jokes aside, $10 maybe workable

[lethal pivot]

that only can get you a replica/dummy model

[lethal pivot]

a contract-tied phones that is

[sick knot]

friendly reminder that there exists phones sold brand new for 5 dollars

(with heavy subsidied government grant)

[sick knot]

maybe a perceived bricked phone

it may be possible to resurrect it

but big gamble

[lethal pivot]

possible but spare parts costs huehue

i have a lot.. broken screen, dead boards yadayada etc

[sick knot]

i think one keen eye person can take note of phones with bricking problem that is easy to fix

but honestly thats too much dedication to buy a phone for 10 bucks

[valid thorn]

If a mf knows how to fix it

I guess he probably can salvage it

[lethal pivot]

It's just a lot of work

[tough sundial]

thoughts about pixel 4?

[lethal pivot]

It's decent

90hz

Sd855 .. still excellent for 2023-2024

[sick knot]

pixel 4 might be a bit... too old

but i guess its ok

still before the whole tensor shit

[tough sundial]

does it available on market or store

pixel 4a?

slightly big bateri ig

[sick knot]

i mean, you find it, its your country

[sick knot]

also if you mean your regular brick and mortar store, no way in hell

even if pixel is officially distributed in malaysia (which im pretty sure it doesnt), its a 4 year-old phone

again, i have stated from time to time that please buy online

nowaday brick and mortar store offer pretty much zero benefit

[tough sundial]

then from online it is

[sick knot]

remember the time of flip and slide phone that look radically different from each other that you have to see for yourself to know what you are up against?

me neither, now everything is just slab or slightly bigger slab

[tough sundial]

my mom literally want to buy me phone from fb lmao

[sick knot]

stop her at all cost

[tough sundial]

i must

but 4a is better than 4 right

[sick knot]

not really

but battery is definitely better

the 4a use worse soc (730g for normal 4a, 765g for 4a 5g)

which btw please be aware of the difference between 4a and 4a 5g

4a 5g has better soc, better battery 3800 vs 3100

bigger screen 6.1" vs 5.8"

and its also roughly 25% more expensive

[tough sundial]

i gtg now

[sick knot]

also

4a HAVE 60Hz (both version)

4 HAVE 90Hz

while 90 is not super crazy

its still better than 60

[lethal pivot]

probably hard to find

i think 2022 flagships can still on the market

[lethal pivot]

if you can f2f sure

also find a better spec one

just pleease

tell your mother online shopping isnt that bad

[valid thorn]

his mom ain't convinced about online shopping

lol

[tough sundial]

pixel 4xl is 90hz right?

[lethal pivot]

yes 90hz

[lethal pivot]

you didnt want to get the sony one?

[tough sundial]

i mean the spare is the thing

and my mom dont trust second hand

[lethal pivot]

just yolo xD

and again

[lethal pivot]

pulling a trickery is needed then

[lethal pivot]

just push her

its better buying exflagships

hell

nvm ion wanna lmao

[tough sundial]

i tried and she told me she will buy me a nokia brick phone lmao

[lethal pivot]

bruh

[tough sundial]

real

[lethal pivot]

just show her the reviews

and youll becareful

||or you gonna be responsible||

jk

@tough sundial can you find fb marketplace listing for s20 fe 5g

the irony tbh

your mom didnt want you to buy 2nd hand phone yet she told you to look in fb marketplace

little did she know most phones on marketplace are secondhand

worse than the second hand sold on shopee

[tough sundial]

damn she needs to be brainwash

[lethal pivot]

or what

fb marketplace phone

[tough sundial]

yep

[lethal pivot]

1 . 2nd hand phone
2. contract-tied shit spec phone
3. borderline unusable stuff

or the worse part

getting scammed

one of their way is telling you to bank in the money to them first and later theyll ship the item to you

while shopee. you can get your money back.. via the shopee wallet

[tough sundial]

I'll try convince her again

[tough sundial]

@lethal pivot can you find me 4xl on shopee?

i cant find it lmao

[lethal pivot]

4xl is hard to find

[lethal pivot]

I found one thay have issues

Face unlock, camera and sim locked

[tough sundial]

dam

i found this while scrolling through shopee

https://shp.ee/ppj2g8u

[lethal pivot]

Ya don't mind paying monthly

It's probably installment too

[tough sundial]

apart from that, is realme 11x 5g good?

[lethal pivot]

Spec-wise looks like another midrange/low end disguised as high end

So probably not good enough

[tough sundial]

damn I'll just wait next year

[lethal pivot]

There's one pixel 4 listing

But 64gb if you don't mind

https://shp.ee/hx5jpyn

@tough sundial

If you don't mind bout refresh rate

Then go with samsung s10

[tough sundial]

which one do you think is better though?

[lethal pivot]

pixel 4 since you can custom rom it

but id go for samsung tbh

pixel 4 got 90hz so go with it

[tough sundial]

god daym i wan xl lol

[lethal pivot]

Get s20 fe 5g then

[lethal pivot]

https://shp.ee/5xjijka

Who knows how bad the scratch is

[tough sundial]

any realme phones has no problems right?

[sick knot]

if being kinda shit is not a problem, then they have no problem

afaik even the same line up the performance is inconsitence

[tough sundial]

what kind of shit lmao

[sick knot]

let alone across the whole brand with the usual "release 2 dozen phones at once to confuse consumer" tactic

[tough sundial]

redmi?

[sick knot]

mediocre spec, bad thermal, realme ui is just a shittier version of miui

same deal

redmi used to be good

now its just as mediocre as the rest

as i have said

do not buy new at your budget

its in pinned

[tough sundial]

only if i can convince my mom

[sick knot]

why would you have to pay them profit

why would you have to buy shitty phone thats bound to be e-waste the moment its warranty end

w h y

[valid thorn]

curious but are xiaomi phones screen are sensitive like when your using a stylus (not the rubber) but like the nibs idk how to call it

[sick knot]

i have a minor seizure reading this sentence

but uh

not really?

[valid thorn]

wait lemme show the stylus

[tough sundial]

i use that one on my redmi lol

[sick knot]

i dont understand why you cant just use your finger

beside

those cheap stylus's rubber surface leave residue on the screen

[valid thorn]

it covers my screen and has a less space

[sick knot]

which is all kind of shit

[valid thorn]

@sick knot this tip of the stylus

[sick knot]

yep this garbage

my god

[valid thorn]

i tried it back when my X3 pro was alive and got a minor scratch

[sick knot]

ok i will refrain from judging your playstyle

[valid thorn]

😂

[sick knot]

but i cant offer any help as no screen is built with the intention of supporting... this

so its a complete toss up

[valid thorn]

oh okay

[tough sundial]

im still using it lmao

[valid thorn]

same it's been like 3 year's now

[tough sundial]

lol

what phone brand is good for droid bruh

[sick knot]

asus rog i guess

[valid thorn]

that's expensive

[sick knot]

well duh

[valid thorn]

asus rog 5 is doable for me

i could just save

it's like 27k php here in Philippines

[sick knot]

@tough sundial i dont understand why you keep walking back to asking pointless question we me and @lethal pivot spent a whole day to find you the best deal

[tough sundial]

im just very confused which phone to pick

im sorry lol

[sick knot]

do not pick brand new budget phone, buy them on reputable e-commerce platform

[tough sundial]

you're saying i should buy a second hand?

[sick knot]

otherwise we listed out that you can buy the sony xperia v ii or if you have a bit more money, the s20 fe is a safer choice

[tough sundial]

what about pixel 4/xl?

[sick knot]

the pixel 4a can be within your reach but availability is very unclear

4 is ok spec-wise, but its really old and have pretty bad battery life

the listing @lethal pivot can find for them isnt scream too much confident

so he said so

[valid thorn]

question: what is UFS i still don't get it and it's pretty hard to understand but when i see ufs 3.1 it's for sure good phone

[sick knot]

UFS = ultra fast storage

[tough sundial]

i don't get it why my mom is really against a second hand phone

[sick knot]

basically bigger UFS = better file transfer rate within your phone

[valid thorn]

my realme has like ufs 2.2 💀

so bad

[sick knot]

but in normal operation its pretty... not noticeable

like, if you copy file around it will be slower

if you take high res picture, it will take a bit longer to save

[valid thorn]

if i would buy a phone i would check the specs and the ufs and the touch sampling rate

and the processor

[sick knot]

ufs is kinda mid, unless you are one of the maniac who use the "ram extending" functionality

[valid thorn]

i use it

[sick knot]

jesus christ DO NOT

[valid thorn]

wait is it bad

[sick knot]

ram extending is just fancy name for memory swap

[valid thorn]

ok then i just revert it back to 3 or something

[sick knot]

when you run out of RAM, the OS start moving the memory to a page file in the internal memory

like, it will keep the app open

[valid thorn]

should i just turn off the ram expansion

[sick knot]

but the app will become dog slow due to nand flash being manigtude slower than RAM in speed

and for a funny bonus, constant writing/reading of nand flash will quickly degrade them

[valid thorn]

ok then i should turn it off

[sick knot]

causing the whole storage unit to just die

[valid thorn]

i thought it would like speed up my phone

[faint sequoia]

it won't

[sick knot]

fuck marketing bs

[faint sequoia]

yea that's so true

[valid thorn]

alright i turn it off and i just have to restart

[tough sundial]

nero is poco good?

[sick knot]

WHAT POCO

[faint sequoia]

recently? not so ish

[sick knot]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/715923296155336775.gif?size=48&name=awaken300bpm&quality=lossless

[faint sequoia]

you would find it a pretty common offering nowadays, when my dad bought my phone, the store manager asked if he wants to enable RAM extension

[valid thorn]

sounds like a scam

[faint sequoia]

it isn't

[tough sundial]

any vivo?

[faint sequoia]

but their explanation is crap

the claim that it "makes your phone run faster" is wrong

[sick knot]

god please kill me already

ughhhhhhhhhhh

[valid thorn]

alot of people says that tbh even here but I don't believe that it makes your phone faster

good thing i researched about it

[sick knot]

@tough sundial WHICH VIVO

[valid thorn]

Nero is so done

[tough sundial]

damn thats alot

[valid thorn]

it is

[sick knot]

why are we walking back to this i cant

[tough sundial]

v20?

[sick knot]

im gonna write a lot

but you know what

its bad

[valid thorn]

those Y series are actually bad

never buy those

those are the cheap ones and has pretty dogshet specs

[lethal pivot]

Like I said before

Modern budget phones nowadays are just shit spec/e-waste disguised as budget/high end phones

[lethal pivot]

Y series is bad

Avoid Samsung A series and vivo Y series .. it's a total e-waste

[tough sundial]

I'll just try convince her to buy me xperia v ii

sorri nero

[lethal pivot]

And @tough sundial literally the best and quite "convincing" listing I can find

[valid thorn]

True

[sick knot]

just do not listen to your local phone salesman

[lethal pivot]

64 gb is eh

[sick knot]

they have a product to sell

so obviously they will try to sell you the product

[lethal pivot]

I hate to say dis dud but ||"I'm going to take responsible if something happens"||

Or fkin idk throw a tantrum

[sick knot]

i have been in the role of recommending stuff and buying my own electronic stuff multiple times

every once in a blue moon you actually meet a nerdy guy who understand what you need and make actual good recommendation

but the remaining 99% is people who doesnt know what they are talking about, or worse, pretend to know what they are talking about

[valid thorn]

may i ask how much is the samsung s20 fe in Philippines i can't find the real price of it

but from my guess it would be 20k

php

[lethal pivot]

Different price but I got it around 200-ish usd

wolfram 800 myr to php

[broken helm]

Wolfram Alpha

Click here for full result

Request for starstsu

[valid thorn]

THAT'S AFFORDABLE

[lethal pivot]

Ok not 200usd lmao

[lethal pivot]

Hey it might be even more pricey on ph

[valid thorn]

oh right

[lethal pivot]

Like I tried searching s20 fe 5g on shopee indonesian before and the price is ☠️

[valid thorn]

i can save 12k as a student but not like 20k

it's too much

[lethal pivot]

Idk how legit this listing is

[sick knot]

i shall an used s20 (not fe) 5g 12/256 listing for 4900k vnd here

[lethal pivot]

wolfram 4490000 idr to php

[broken helm]

Wolfram Alpha

Click here for full result

Request for starstsu

[lethal pivot]

How does one fucking

Yeah see

[valid thorn]

ok that's a bit uhh

much

imagine the 256gb variant

[lethal pivot]

The thing is you need to mind how many people searching for it too

Higher demands = price increase

So there's that

[sick knot]

yea, national demand play an important role

[lethal pivot]

The fe variant don't have 256gb I think

[valid thorn]

oh that's unfortunate the processor is good too

865sd

[lethal pivot]

But you can slap sd card on it

And format it as internal atleast

[sick knot]

same place i bought my rog phone 7

[lethal pivot]

also you need to search for unlocked version

[sick knot]

wolfram 4900000 vnd to usd

[valid thorn]

unlocked?

[broken helm]

Wolfram Alpha

Click here for full result

Request for neroyuki

[lethal pivot]

Like non Telco-tied version like mine

Verizon changed the hardware a bit meaning the 5g dosent work in my place 😭

[valid thorn]

sounds like a hard one to find

[lethal pivot]

Fucking damn

GOD BLESS I GOT IT FOR CHEAP LMAO

[lethal pivot]

Just look out for the model number

Avoid sm-G781_V_

Tbh it doesn't really matter if you only want to play droid on it

But if you want like install custom rom/root its gonna be pain in the ass

[valid thorn]

alright i should start saving money when the right times come i don't want to save money without eating like 1 year ago

[lethal pivot]

Don't buy the S20 FE

That one is exynos variant

You need to find S20 FE 5G

[valid thorn]

there's 865sd variant

[lethal pivot]

And if you somehow can get a bit more money ,, just go with base s21 lmao

[valid thorn]

I'm not going for exynos imagine going for Exynos

[lethal pivot]

Yeah but it's a gamble lmao

[valid thorn]

is this the correct one the g781b

[lethal pivot]

Yes

[valid thorn]

ok that's easy to find i guess

[lethal pivot]

Just ask the seller

Doubt that they know wtf is model name is

But worth a try

[valid thorn]

same thought

[lethal pivot]

Or just ask which set is the phone

International or USA set

[valid thorn]

hoping that they would know the model name is

[tough sundial]

fine lol

[lethal pivot]

Just pls take the xperia 5 ii

64 gb in 2023 is pain

[tough sundial]

do you have the link?

i will try convince my mom again

[lethal pivot]

You have usb type c cable?

Nvm I think the box is random actually

[tough sundial]

wdym

[lethal pivot]

https://shp.ee/32jr6nu

[tough sundial]

is ab "at least" good?

[lethal pivot]

Ot no lmao

[tough sundial]

lel

[lethal pivot]

It's good

Minor scratches probably

[lethal pivot]

Grade A free box gonna make it look like original "in box"

[tough sundial]

grade a no scratch?

[lethal pivot]

That's a gamble

Probably like tiny tiny scratches but not too noticeable

Or hell if you're in luck.. it's probably gonna look brand new

||besides you gonna use a case anyway not like it matters||

[tough sundial]

i dont but she probably won't care lmao

hopefully

[lethal pivot]

I doubt that

That grade a free box is literally gonna make it more convincing to your mom hopefully

And change her view on online shopping

[tough sundial]

but damn no cable lol

is cheap type c cable good?

[lethal pivot]

Brudda

Cable cost like what

Rm5

[tough sundial]

eh, i dont usually buy cable lol

[lethal pivot]

What more important is the device

[lethal pivot]

Besides lookin from this it's probably have cable included too

[tough sundial]

hopefully

lmao

i will try convince her

damn it

how bruh

[lethal pivot]

Option b : wrok

[tough sundial]

man how to convince my parents

[faint sequoia]

you ought to work at that first before asking which phone is better a billion times

[tough sundial]

sori

[lethal pivot]

Chill lul

[jagged basin]

Hi Im looking for a decent 120hz phone around 200 pounds, do u know any?

[lethal pivot]

wolfram 200 gbp to usd

[broken helm]

Wolfram Alpha

Click here for full result

Request for starstsu

[lethal pivot]

quite a lot ?

go for an exflagship i guess

[jagged basin]

What phone specifically

[sick knot]

poco f3, samsung galaxy s20 fe 5g, something like that

[lethal pivot]

can you search how much s20 / s21 cost in there?

[sick knot]

maybe a snap 8 gen 1+ device is possible

[lethal pivot]

idk if "kimovil" a good website dawg

[sick knot]

but need a lot of penny pinching

[jagged basin]

Is it possible to get 120hz for around 160$?

I'm just trying to see the minimum budget to get 120hz

[lethal pivot]

if you dont mind like used/secondhand phone

like exflagship second hand

[jagged basin]

As long they work fine

[lethal pivot]

but s20 fe 5g is kinda the best choice for now

since the only issue it has is GOS limiting the potential

fixable btw

[jagged basin]

Okok thx, but, is there so much difference between 120hz and 90hz?

[lethal pivot]

id say not much tbh

but from 60hz to 120 is

and probably 120hz to 144hz

[jagged basin]

Alr, thank u

[worn sinew]

120hz to 144hz not really

but 60 to 120 yes

[valid thorn]

He's right

[frigid hamlet]

if its just for gaming solely I think
poco f3 > s20 fe

[lethal pivot]

Don't you forget poco with their death timer

And screen issues

Let alone software

[valid thorn]

how come there's a fuckin timer

Literally a bomb

[faint sequoia]

do you not get it

death timer as in it is now notorious for bad quality, and you will have to change phone sooner than later

[valid thorn]

ahh

bruhh

[worn sinew]

like my bs4

death timer

exactly 1 month after insurance expired

dead

[frigid hamlet]

Ik about other poco and xiaomi phones but I think there is less bad deadboot/fried motherboard issues on poco f3

[lethal pivot]

ive seen quite a lot of screen issues actually

[frigid hamlet]

oh yea that

I forgor

💀

edited

[lethal pivot]

thats 2nd worse lmao

having screen issues

[smoky sable]

Under rm300 for droid pls

[lethal pivot]

older xperia sir

[lethal pivot]

check pinned for shop

[smoky sable]

Which model

[lethal pivot]

xz2 ☠️

[smoky sable]

Same shop that i bought my xz2

[lethal pivot]

actually idk

[smoky sable]

Alah gampang

😭

[lethal pivot]

xperia 10 ii

xperia 5 mk1

[smoky sable]

Oot,camera good?

[lethal pivot]

add another 700

[smoky sable]

I just gonna quit droid 💀

[lethal pivot]

this thread is for droid lmao

[sick knot]

bro please reel in your expectation

[smoky sable]

Nah speak from my experience,can get ipx with rm300 for camera

[jolly vapor]

my f3 still works fine

I daily drive it

nfc, screen time, gaming everything is fine

[sick knot]

wolfram 300 myr to usd

[broken helm]

Wolfram Alpha

Click here for full result

Request for neroyuki

[sick knot]

@smoky sable iphone x, for 64 dollars?

[jolly vapor]

uhhh

did he ask for a phone in general

[jolly vapor]

oh

nvm go on

[sick knot]

he asked for a phone for osu droid for 300 myr (64 dollars)

[jolly vapor]

hmm

[sick knot]

and after recommendation he ask if it has good camera

[jolly vapor]

well

for 64 dollars

[sick knot]

hence this response

[jolly vapor]

not doable

[sick knot]

and his response afterward

[jolly vapor]

unless he buys it ultra cracked

damaged

or smth

for 64 dollars you can get some xiaomi

maybe

[sick knot]

bro said iphone x sold for 64 bucks i would like to know what crack he is snorting

[jolly vapor]

fr

I mean an ipx costs like

100$ here

atleast

without cracks and stuff

but 64 dollars huh

prob icloud locked

[sick knot]

yea maybe

[jolly vapor]

well for 64$ your barely getting a phone that can run droid at 60fps

[smoky sable]

Anyways bought 🗿

[jolly vapor]

oh god

you know you can't play

droid on that

right?

[smoky sable]

Nah it just oot

[jolly vapor]

I would never buy smth from marketplace

[sick knot]

i can show you a dead phone

[smoky sable]

But someone said im snorting thing bcs of ipx rm300 ,not gonna make that happen

[sick knot]

and icloud locked iphone is basically dead phone

[jolly vapor]

we saying that that is dangerously close to

a fraud

[smoky sable]

I bought it

[jolly vapor]

scam

[smoky sable]

Reviewed it

I even record a video abt it

[jolly vapor]

Did they show the front?

[sick knot]

seems like he bought it

[jolly vapor]

cause on the page it looks like only the back is shown

[sick knot]

and got the lucky shot

[jolly vapor]

maybe

[smoky sable]

"got the lucky"

How abt get real

[jolly vapor]

wdym get real

we are just being cautious

[sick knot]

im getting real

[lethal pivot]

nah

[jolly vapor]

cause this is close to being scammed tbh

[sick knot]

if it works then you're lucky

[lethal pivot]

hes ex xperia xz2 user

[sick knot]

extremely lucky

[smoky sable]

Uh?

[sick knot]

@lethal pivot he said this

[lethal pivot]

please dont be a cringe user

and

the amount of malaysians flexing their ipx and saying more superior is cringe ngl

[smoky sable]

Who being cringe!

?

I just defend myself

Pls read the goddamn message and don't jump to conclusion

Funny

[sick knot]

again, you get out of that purchase, good for you

if i can dig out a gaming pc from the dumpster, lucky for me

[smoky sable]

Thank you

I don't snort shit

🤓

[sick knot]

but that price defy practically all logic about the phone's value

maybe the previous owner is completely ignorant

but whatever, the point is that we are trying to at least not guide people to at least get a working phone

we do not want to risk them to be scammed without any safety net

if you are up to gamble, well, up to you, the local second hand market is extremely volatile

and we definitely cannot provide any assistance

[lethal pivot]

if you search deep enough

and i bet theres a catch why that ipx cost 64 usd

[sick knot]

i mean, there are video of people finding working pc in the dumpster

if you are lucky enough, anything is possible

but suggesting "well i bought the ipx once for 300 myr so there has to be android phone with good camera for the same price" is uh...

well at least lg and sony have okay-ish camera

but if you throw high refresh rate to the mix then its only sony (or pixel)

pixel 4 if you can torelate its atrocious battery life

2800mAh battery driving an 855 is truly a pepega moment

[lethal pivot]

rm300

battery life/health?

face id?

true tone?

etc

ion know which true tone is on ip

[smoky sable]

🤓

[lethal pivot]

Mf is trolling

[worn sinew]

aint no way an iphone x is 64$ lmao i aint believing that shit

if im going to believe it i have to touch and use it with my own hand

[smoky sable]

?

Cry

[smoky sable]

Literally on my hand rn

And it is f2f deal

[worn sinew]

maybe a picture would be nice

[lethal pivot]

I mean tbf asking in here for a phone with good camera while you already got one is just showing you just wanna flex it

Maybe just me

¯_(ツ)_/¯

Just wanna point that out

[jolly vapor]

fr

[untold heath]

fr

[smoky sable]

saying don't be a cringe person without context
Saying how malaysian flexing ipx is just cringe to me
Not to mention saying im trolling

Can't believe sharing my experience is a flex

Kefunnyan

Nerds

[lethal pivot]

cool

[sick knot]

yellow battery and face id issue

i guess that would degrade the phone value by a quite bit

oh well

it is what it is

better than icloud locked

[lethal pivot]

true

[lethal pivot]

continuing this would make even worse im just gonna back out ||and hopefully you realized it somehow||

[smoky sable]

Yea I don't even know why u even replying to last night post lol

Looks like u triggered

🗿

[jolly vapor]

yeah it does

he actually payed more for it

lmao

smth like that in hungary is 40$

[smoky sable]

Yellow is battery saver 🗿

The battery health is 100%

[jolly vapor]

looks like face id is dead

[sick knot]

isnt it degraded battery

[smoky sable]

Nope

Its battery saver

[lethal pivot]

ayo?

[jolly vapor]

show us fr